• MB30SD

    Konichiwa bitches

    • MB30SD

      Jay is our quarterback.

      …at least until next year.

  • MB30SD

    Has anyone heard from yonny yet!?!?!

    I’m worried he’s lying dead in a gutter somewhere. Dead of desanguination from raider fan multiple stab wounds

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

      I have risen.

      • MB30SD

        No stab wounds to be seen?

        • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

          only small lacerations on my liver from hastily fermented and distilled sugar cane and molasses.

          • MB30SD

            Eeeeeeeexcellent.

            (So the usual)

  • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

    Well put Jeff. The Bears need to build out the trenches and build from the ground up. They must restock the cupboards with badasses. They must not replace the QB at this time as he is an NFL caliber quarterback that can win games. Until the real issues affecting the team are addressed the Cutler debate must be shelved.

    • CanadaBear

      If the Bears are at the top of the draft next year (and there is a great prospect at QB), they have to go that way. The Bears don’t get that draft position very often and that’s where the studly QB’s get picked. I know there are lots of examples of good QB’s that were picked later in the draft but what are the chances the Bears get that lucky? Basing it on 50+ years of being a Bears fan I’d say zero.

      • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

        there is no great prospect at QB this year. To put a rookie behind a patchwork OL and a D that still have a propensity to get schooled is a bad. The team must be built with the kinds of picks we have narrowly missed in the last 5yrs

        • I think it’s still too early to predict no great QB prospects. Gotta give Goff and a few others the rest of the college season to conclude that.

          Now, if there’s no “lock” QBs perhaps, like Luck, but those only come once very 10-20 yrs, and I’m not willing to wait that long personally. (and even then, look at Luck now)

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            Luck, outside of the AFC South, looks exactly like any talented QB with limited weapons and weak OL would look. And that is…… .500

          • Pissed Off

            Agree to disagree. Luck will be back and be just fine before too long. He’s too good on his own for that team to lose like they have been.

          • Pissed Off

            I’m waiting for Mayock to scout Goff. He’s working on the seniors right now and then will do underclassmen but I look forward to his analysis later this year.

        • Pissed Off

          Based on yesterday and with a full year under Fangio I don’t think that by next year this team will have a D that has “a propensity to get schooled”. They looked fine yesterday and with some OFFENSIVE help (see yesterday VS Seattle) the D will be just fine. I also have confidence that this staff can put together a good O line by next year as well. In addition there’s no reason a QB we draft has to play right away.

      • Pissed Off

        Cutler would be fine if we could just replace him above the shoulders.

      • willbest

        Look at Andrew Luck (notice he is already out injured). That is what happens when you put a great QB behind a crappy O-line and support him with a bad defense. Sure he can make the playoffs every year in the toilet bowel that is the AFCS, but it catches up to you when your competition starts to improve, and you are still taking those hits.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Russell Wilson has a worse line and he does okay. His plays last 7-8 seconds.

    • We could’ve got both Aaron Donald AND Leonard Williams in the 6-11 range.

      Teams can’t get the ‘top’ QB unless they have a top 5 pick. (Unless they’re willing to gamble on the Ponders/Lockers/Manziels of the draft)

      To me, it depends on how high we pick.

      We can always sit the QB behind Cutty for a yr or two.

      • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

        too many needs to address to sit a QB at this point.

        • Yes, but I think you and Jeff and a few others have a different plan for the Bears than most fans and maybe POX.

          You want to build a team around Cutty the next 2-3 yrs for a possible SB.

          The fans and likely POX (who made a move for Mariotta) are planning on a new franchise QB and team for the next 5-10 yrs.

          Drafting and sitting a QB behind Cutty might be splitting the baby in the middle.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            I hate to say this but I don’t know if we have the horses for a SB run in the next 2 to 3 yrs. The drafting for the previous years was that bad.
            Cutler is a perfectly suitable QB while we draft the hell out of the DL, LB, S, OL, CB spots. We need difference makers at more positions than we have now.

          • yep, they’re not winning a SB with Cutler. If they want to keep him around until they have a good team to plug a young QB into, that’s fine. If they want to rehab his value and trade him, that’s fine too.
            By the time they’re ready to seriously contend for championships again, Cutler will not be their QB.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            I agree. It’s sad to say but that is what happens when you bring Cutler into the fold in 2009 and proceed to Angelo the fuck out of the team, miss on every subsequent pick, not bring in a number 1 WR and also miss on every FA player except Peppers.
            All he had to do was not fuck up every single time. There were enough pieces in 2010 if they simply had some sort of OL or WR talent.

          • Their window was from 2010-12. Bad luck with Cutty/Forte injuries in 2011 probably derailed their best chance, but even then their OL was too big of a liability to win a SB.

          • Pissed Off

            Didn’t you just say somewhere that Cutler was good enough to win a SB with?

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            i’m not sure what your question is. Having a solid NFL quarterback doesn’t mean shit if you are missing key components of your team that most successful teams enjoy.

          • Pissed Off

            Agree to disagree. I think teams with elite qbs can have shitty parts all over their team on both sides of the ball and still be 500 or better and a playoff hopeful due to them making everyone around them better. Brady Peyton and Rodgers can win with any team. Put them on the bears and they are a super bowl contender right now. That’s the reason those teams are talked about as going to the playoffs and or super bowl every year. Not because they have great pieces around them every single year…..because the qb at that level make the team

          • Irish Sweetness

            P Manning has won one SB (in which he sucked) after a gazillion playoff runs.

          • Pissed Off

            I’m not sure of the point you’re arguing here(if at all)but it sounds like you’re agreeing with me. He went to a million playoffs and the colts were talked about (and the broncos) nearly every year as a SB contender which is my point exactly because not every year did those teams have awesome parts all around.

          • Pissed Off

            I’m saying you just agreed that we cannot win a super bowl with Cutler but you are loving him up like a fat kid loves cake and said earlier that we can win a sb with him? Which one is it?

          • waffle

            i did no such thing. i said we don’t have the horses to win a super bowl and agreed with someone else that by the time we do that cutler won’t be the qb.

          • Pissed Off

            Now I understand your real screen name, didn’t know you changed it.

    • Martin K Johnson

      Thank you well said!!

  • AlbertInTucson

    Good points BUT…

    I completely disagree with the concept that “Going into 2014, nobody had a problem with Cutler.”

    That’s revisionist history and just isn’t so.

    He already had plenty of detractors by then, including on this blog, and was consistently painted in a negative light by much of the mainstream media going back to that giant ball of crap that “He quit in the Championship game against Green Bay.”

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    this made me miss Rev’s Rants after games.

  • Re-post:

    On that Cutty pick.

    I LIKED the play call. It was aggressive – an Anti-Lovie type play. And more importantly – it was the CORRECT call.He was OPEN. It was just the execution.

    I don’t know why ppl are worrying about Gase. He has more than impressed. With Cutler in the game, we have a ROBUST running, which all Bear fans should love.

    We keep the rock for large chunks of time which keeps our D rested. Don’t
    know what team has the most TOP, but we have to be in the top 10.

    Gase has shown flexibility. First game, run heavy against a soft GB front. Worked.
    Vs Ariz, he surprised them by using Cutty in the read option. Worked

    (Sidenote. If Cutty gets healthy again, read-option might be the way to go. Cutty is not Peyton with reading Ds. Read-option narrows down his choices and reads. He can run, and has an arm. That’s a perfect read-option QB).

    With Clauson, he tried the triple TE tank formation. Worked, for a bit, but it was bound to fail since the D just moved up everyone with Pickles behind center.

    We all saw the Raiders game. The Raiders couldn’t cover TEs coming into the game, and guess what? Gase attacked them with Bennett (the DUH offense, no?)

    Our makeshift Oline is adequate. They would probably be good with continuity.

    And all this with Alshon and White sidelined vs SB contending teams (except Raiders).

    So tell me again, why are fans moaning about Gase?

    • WP34

      I am with you.

      Seems many just need something to moan or bitch about.

      Sorta like know it all’s….they don’t even have to watch them games… already knowing it all.

      We are a competitive team again; there is light again at the end of the tunnel. Go Bears.

    • Sactowns#1

      The two things that drove me insane were A) Calling a dive play almost every single 1st down. Seriously predictable and ineffective.
      B) Can we get a play action for the love of sweet baby Jesus!?!?

      • I’m not so sure Cutty can make all the moves in the pocket with the inj, like play-action.

        I think Gase was trying to protect Cutty in this game, esp with Leno and Omenah playing line.

        We might not see as much creativity with the game plan going forward in order to preserve Cutty.

        Pretty sure the read-option and bootleg are probably out of the playbook now.

        Edit. However, every OC can improve, and our redzone or “greenzone” efficiency can score a few more TDs than FGs, that’s for sure, but with an inj oline and no true #1WR, it might be tough sledding.

      • Pissed Off

        Can we get a deep threat for the love of tiny baby Jesus? The one thing I loved about Tresty’s offense was the deep ball. I lay in bed at night and dream of those 50 yard bombs to AJ where he makes an amazing grab or some guys is wide open streaking down the field. Cmon Gase get us some shots like that.

        • 7 step drops expose QBs to more hits.

          That might be out of the playbook too until Cutty is fully healed.

          • willbest

            And we have something that looks like an offensive line.

          • Pissed Off

            Lets go with two TE’s, an extra lineman, a full back hell lets have one WR on the route, I just wanna see it. I’m definitely stretching here.

    • I was worried about Gase heading into the season. Zero track record outside of Peyton, so he was an unknown to me. But in my mind, he’s been the best coach the Bears have had so far this year.
      I think Fangio is doing a solid job, but he’s still failing to capitalize on Houston’s versatility properly IMO. He’s added a bit more to the playbook every week, from what I can tell, and it’s getting the D from awful to respectable.
      Fox is Fox. He’s awful in-game.
      Gase has been fantastic though. He designed a game plan in Seattle that kept them somewhat competitive despite basically not having a QB. And he has Jay Cutler looking the best he ever has in Chicago.

      • Couldn’t agree more on all points.

        I am somewhat impressed with Fangio’s pass rush as of late, and surprisingly, the way he’s improved the secondary. We all thought they were the least talented, and Rodgers and Palmer do what they do, but Porter, Ball, Amos, Rolle are not utter dog shit, and they seem to be close to making plays.

        Fuller is a bit of an enigma at this point

      • BillW

        Great points. I id wonder though why SO many first down runs. I assumed it was to set something up (and maybe it was and never had the right situation) but it was way too predictable and was getting stuffed. If I have time I want to go back and see all the first down play calls. Maybe I’m wrong.

        • SC Dave

          Maybe they were looking for the offensive line to show a little toughness.

        • I think he’s been putting a big emphasis on avoiding bad down and distance situations that torpedoed the offense last year, especially early with banged-up WRs. Pass plays can have incompletions, sacks, and/or penalties.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Liked the play on 3rd and 1 .. .when a yard wins us the game? NAh. Throw a screen or outside, but that was a crazy route on 3rd and 1.

  • CanadaBear

    Holy Crap jeff slow your roll. Cutler drove downfield against a shitty team and won the game. Happy as hell he did that but until he starts doing that on a routine basis, I’m not convinced. No issue with keeping him next year and drafting the next QB (I’m guessing we’ll be towards the very top of the draft). Last year was historically bad but the Gibron years were historically bad. Also, by the time the Bears launched Wanny they were historically bad. Same with DJ.

    • TheBigCheesy

      Cutler had lost 6 games in a row. Jeff has been waiting quite a long time to show Cutty some love. You don’t want him to get blue balls, do you?

  • This must be part of the Cutty moratorium lol

    It does make me wonder though, if Cutty can win teams a game (if he didn’t throw that boneheaded INT, he wouldn’t have to), why didn’t the Texans, Jets, Bills, etc come a-knocking for Cutty when it was obvious POX had him on a trade block?

    If he’s truly that guy, teams should’ve fallen head over heels trying to swing that deal regardless of cap space cuz if he’s truly that guy, price is not an issue.

    Things that make you go…hmmmm…

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

      I’ve seen almost every QB in the league throw head scratchers but not all of them result in the other team driving 50 to 70yds for a TD or FG. Remember that the Bears were winning when that pick was thrown and went down when they proceeded to give up a field long drive…..
      I call it the Luck effect. Turn the ball over and have the other team subsequently turn it over or squander the possession thus making everyone forget about the ludicrous turnover.

      • You were at the stadium. How did the fans react when Jay threw that pick? Did they throw their beer in disgust? Or did they just shrug their shoulders?

        Give us the inside dope.

        • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

          it wasn’t crazy bad because people were watching him keep plays alive all game. There was some bitching and moaning but that’s to be expected because it was a disappointing result to a great opportunity. No one booed but the natives did get restless when the Raiders proceeded to drive all the way down the field for a FG like it was nothing.

    • Pissed Off

      Sound’s like I’m just trolling with no original thoughts of my own but…GREAT post.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I don’t think Cuttywas ever on a trade-block. POX said they hadn’t shopped him. Doesn’t mean nobody came knocking.

  • Sactowns#1

    Ok…seriously. Are the Skins -8 favorites this week?

    • Irish Sweetness

      ATL are the bomb, though. Don’t touch that game.

  • The GP

    Philbin shitcanned.

    Miami: Dumpster fire.

    #FuckSuh

  • The GP

    I am confused: Radio guys say Cutler cannot get his usual velocity from his throws due to the leg. Can’t step into things.

    But it’s his right hammy, yes? This is the leg he grabs when getting up after the missed tackle.

    And he’s throwing off his back foot. For a right handed thrower, the back leg would be the right leg. So he’s firing off the leg that’s hurt. Wouldn’t stepping into the left leg be better?

    • Cormonster

      I’m guessing not. When he steps into the pass, he’d have to push off his right leg, which would stretch the hammy.

    • SC Dave

      Cutler has had problems with mechanics his entire career.

    • Irish Sweetness

      “Wouldn’t stepping into the left leg be better?”

      He’d have to throw it left-handed ….

  • The GP

    Bill O’Brien, he the mighty slinger of the f-bomb on HBO, is under-coaching the hell out of that Texans team.

    • I caught some of that game, and I’m not shitting you.

      There was a point in the game when the offense got called for TWO delay of game penalties…BACK TO BACK.
      This was then followed by an immediate TO.

      I don’t think I’ve ever seen that before.

      Mallet was eventually benched, and round and round they go.

      They have 3 studs on the team I feel bad for. Hopkins, Foster and Watt.

      • Pissed Off

        Hopkins is a man

  • Viva

    There is no doubt that with Cutty we move the ball…and with Clausen we move punters from the 53 man roster to the IR.

  • TheBigCheesy

    In 2013 Jeff wrote this headline…

    Jay Cutler: League’s Most Valuable Player through 3 weeks.

    In 2014 Jeff Tweeted this:

    Jay Cutler has outplayed Aaron Rodgers through 3 games

    In 2015, Cutler capped off a 6-game losing streak when he injured his hamstring chasing down one of his trademark boomerangs. He misses the Seahawks game (how convenient) and comes back to defeat the mighty OAKLAND RAIDERS at home with a last second 50 yard field goal. He’s 1-2 over 3 home games this season with a 83 passer rating and a 58 QBR. This prompts Jeff to post a 3-minute “rant” praising Jay Cutler (but no, Jeff is not a Cutler apologist) and Martellus Bennett is invoking the name of Jesus Christ.

    The fun never ends.

    • Pissed Off

      Thanks for laying that out Cheesy. Glad there are more folks that can see the real picture around here. Getting too high off of a close win against the raiders of all teams is not reason for too much optimism.

      That said…fuck the pack. Why are you here? Isn’t there some cheese blog you could frequent?

      Didnt Cutler statistically have his best year last year. We’ve been getting Cutler’d long before 2015 and I don’t get Jeff’s rant at ALL.

      • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

        sorry PO but Cheesy’s post was bullshit. If Rodgers in all his glory had a the last ranked D they’d lose games no matter what and wouldn’t it be infuriating for Cheesy for someone to come in and ascribe these losses all to Rodgers, invoke his name and insinuate that he was the reason for said losses and then have the nerve to continue to ignore the real reasons why football teams don’t have consistent success?
        You supporting Cheesy is like me letting my son call his sister “poopy” when in fact we all know that it is not nice to call people poopy. I have to call you out on your transgressions my son. You have sinned against the blog and against yourself. Repent.

        • TheBigCheesy

          It was one thing for Martellus to compare Cutler to Jesus Christ. But comparing him to Aaron Rodgers? I cannot tolerate such blasphemy.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            haha, Martellus be cray.

          • MB30SD

            Fuck erin rodgers dude.

        • TheBigCheesy

          Truly great screen name, btw

        • Pissed Off

          I calls em as I sees em. They would not lose games no matter what, thats poppycock. The pack have/has had some very bad defenses but guess what, it’s masked by great offensive (QB in particular) play. That should be evident by the fact that Rodgers has never had a 6 game losing streak in his career no matter what kind of defense he’s had….and they haven’t all been good…let’s be real.

          I repent for supporting cheesy because he is a fan of the devil but I respect his logic.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            the pack has never had the two worst defenses in the history of their organization two years in a row. NO ONE can win while other O’s don’t punt, their QB’s set QBR records and they put 50pts on the board. No One.

          • Pissed Off

            They haven’t had the worst defense in the NFL because their offense doesn’t allow their defense to be that bad by possessing the ball, scoring, being opportunistic etc. Even the worst D in the NFL (including the Bears) gets teams to punt occasionally. And yes any team can win if the O puts up 50 a game no matter how bad the D is.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            incorrect

          • Pissed Off

            It’s correct …it’s positive whatever you want to call it but incorrect would be …..well incorrect

          • SC Dave

            So that excuses all six years of Cutler mediocrity? Sometimes I really cannot fathom your excuses.

        • MB30SD

          you’re wasting your time and effort. Valiant (and eloquent) as is was.

    • beninnorcal

      Who said Jeff wasn’t a Cutler apologist?

      • TheBigCheesy

        Jeff

  • Like I said before, I contend the Lions, Fins and Saints (who BARELY eked out an OT win at home vs WEEDEN) are hands down worse then us.

    I also think Bucs, 9ers, Jags, Browns, Texans are worse.

    We’re about equivalent to Raiders, Vikes, Eagles…

    Right below Jets, Rams, Chiefs, though not by much, IMO.

    Edit. With Cutty, naturally.

    • TheBigCheesy

      Equal to the Vikings eh?

      • I think so. The Vikes showed me something last game. They went toe to toe with the most dominant D of the season, and it wasn’t all put on Adrian in the final minutes.

        They look scrappy. I think they’ll take the Pack in their home game if they keep playing like that.

        • TheBigCheesy

          You just zigged when I was asking you to zag.

          • The GP

            Don’t be a zaggot.

          • SC Dave

            Priceless!

        • Pissed Off

          I think cheesy was going with “the vikes are way better than the bears” and that it’s preposterous to assume the bears are equals with the vikings

          • TheBigCheesy

            I don’t know if I’d take it that far but certainly that was the direction I was heading

          • It’s not. We’ll beat the Vikes at least once or it’ll be a very competitive game.

            Talent is one thing. But talent alone doesn’t make a team (see, Fins).

          • Pissed Off

            I hope you’re right

  • Lol a TE COACH (Dan Campell). TE COACH is taking over as HC for the Phins? Are you kidding me?

    Has that ever happened in the history of the NFL before?

    • BillW

      Uh – wasn’t Iron Mike a TE/Specials coach at Dallas?

      • I thought he was a specials coach (in addition to TE).

        There’s actually a long precedent of Specials coaching becoming HCs (some think that it demands HC qualities), but a TE coach?

        How sucky are the DC/OC on the Fins?

        • BillW

          Yes he was (as I said).

          My guess, not that I care, is they didn’t want to bring in another OC or DC this soon in the season. They will obviously all be gone next year anyway.

  • Blog Poll

    If you can trade Cutler away to the Texans for a 1st (or Watt) right now, would you?

    Yay for trade.
    Nay for no trade.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Like the Texans would even consider that.

      • Have you seen Mallet and Hoyer play?
        Holy crap!

        • Pissed Off

          Based on their play it’s worth a call but I still think they are missing some other pieces. In addition I don’t think cutler can win a team a SB due to his high probability of shitting the bed in key moments and he’d have to not do that for like 3 games in a row which isn’t possible against top competition. Based also on the offseason I dont know of any team that wants him but I definitely say give them a call while their down.

          • The thing is, the AFC S is WIDE open.
            The Jags almost beat them, and it wasn’t an anomaly. The Jags almost always beat them. That’s why they were my underdogs of the week, even before Luck went down.

            That D with Watt and Clowney are under performing but can have talent.

            The O has weapons. Hopkins and Foster are PBers. The Oline needs some work, but with Cutty, I think they automatically compete for the division.

          • AlbertInTucson

            It’s not going to happen.

          • DocNitty Ellipsoids Ornamental

            Speaking of Clowney, has he done anything since he’s been drafted?

          • AlbertInTucson

            Spent a LOT of time in the training room. Even more than Alshon.

      • in-season QB trades are so rare.

        But the Texans are one of three teams I could see trading for Cutler next offseason, if the Bears are looking to trade him. Right combo of need (good roster outside of QB), cap space, and HC looking to win to save his job.
        Other 2? Cleveland and St. Louis (though both have a younger QB who could change that if they play well this year).

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

      Yes, I think so and the reason is because with an extra top 10 pick you can repair the OL or DL in one fell swoop to the point where you can hit on a late round pick and a FA to really make either side quite deep. If you got a Watt you could then use your 1st rd pick to get a player that could thrive because Watt was there too.
      That is how you could jumpstart a rebuild.

      • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

        in theory of course. We all know that would never happen. That is why you keep Cutty and draft difference makers at key positions.

      • willbest

        No because you have to spend one of those picks on a QB, unless you are going to go out and get Schaub or McCown or Colt McCoy. Or hope Chip Kelly lets Sam Bradford walk after trading for him.

        • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

          normally I agree but in this hypothetical I would do it because you are being offered something that would never normally be offered and it could be a franchise changing event…or at least move up the rebuild by a year or 2.

    • willbest

      Well considering the Colts gave up a 1st for Trent Richardson who I don’t even think is in the league this year, I guess maybe a first. But then they aren’t going to be in playoff contention with Cutty, so I bet they wouldn’t give more than a pair of 2nds and perhaps they throw in a 4th because he has 5-years left on an affordable contract.

    • Viva

      Yay. I love Cutty, but I love a 26 y.o. JJ more.

      • How about for their 1st?

        • Pissed Off

          Either or

        • Viva

          No…with Cutty the Texans would be a playoff team so their draft position would be mid to high twenties. Maybe a 1 this year and a 2 next year…

          • Viva

            and I think Cutty is a stud who’s been surrounded by schlubs.

    • The GP

      Silly choice. Watt is the most dominant 3-4 end in the game

      • TheBigCheesy

        Yeah but Cutler just beat the Raiders. AAAAAND, get this: He’s not Jimmy Clausen!

        • The GP

          I think the point was he’s not Brian Hoyer.

          Brian Hoyer looks like a McDonalds manager

        • WP34

          love your humor.

          But how many rings does your wonder boy Rodgers have…

          Exactly.

      • and that’s gotten Houston what, exactly?

        If they were the same age, I’d rather have Cutler than Watt. An average QB is more valuable to your team than any non-QB, no matter how good he is.

        But given the fact that Cutler is 7-8 years older than Watt, I’d take Watt.

        But give the Houston GM truth serum and ask him if he’d rather have Watt or Cam, Dalton, etc., and his answer would be the QB.

        • The GP

          Going from Ego Ferguson at LDE to JJ Watt is like the difference between a Mississippi tugboat and this bad boy:

          I would love to pull up to a dock in Florida in that.

          Hoyer and Mallett are hot garbage, but JJ runs that D.

          • yep, but Houston had the worst record with Watt 2 years ago and look poised for a bottom 6-7 finish this year.
            If you don’t have a capable QB, you’re screwed. Pretty much every single playoff team for the last several years, with very few exceptions, has had a Cutler-level or better QB. Those that don’t eke in due to a shitty division and/or lucky season and proceed to promptly get sent home.

          • The GP

            They wrecked poor Matt Schaub.

          • MB30SD

            homie was already wrecked. SMH.

            What is it with him, alex smith, and vadgers looking pretty much like the exact same dude. smh

          • This is exactly why I think them giving a 1st is not all that ludicrous.

            They’ve had 4 weeks of Clausen level production, and they’re looking for 12 more weeks of that. That’s gotta be brutal and make Cutty much more attractive, esp when they’re just wasting Watt, Hopkins and Foster.

    • Pissed Off

      Of course I would but HOU would never give up either of those two, especially Watt. Maybe a 1% chance on the pick. However that leaves us with nothing at QB and a terrible rest of the year for sure and maybe longer. That said this team is going nowhere this year (in terms of playoffs, SB, etc) so I could live with it. If they’d throw in a Hoyer or something not named Clausen that would help. This would be Herschel Walkeresque if they traded one of the best defensive players of all time for jay freaking cutler.

    • DocNitty Ellipsoids Ornamental

      Since we’re on the subject of Pipe Dreams, how bout Jay Cutler for JJ Watt straight up?

      • Irish Sweetness

        He’s a mega-tool.

    • beninnorcal

      Maybe. I’d rather be able to draft a qb in the next year or two and be able to groom him behind Cutler.

    • SC Dave

      Ha ha ha!!! Cutler for Watt?!? Hahahahahahahahahahaha
      *In a heartbeat* I’d take that trade. But it’s fantasy. There has never been a team that would make that stupid a trade, and I don’t see the Texans becoming one… oh wait. Maybe if Watt played for the Vikings… hmm….

    • madscout12

      Yes for Watt. No for a 1st. There’s nobody in the draft that’s a clear 1st year starter.

    • Irish Sweetness

      What’s Watt doing the last 4 weeks? Texans are dog-link. Nope.

      I heart Jay. Again. Draft studs, don’t overpay. Get ’em free.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Okay, fuck off @nflnetwork. They show 1 highlight from Bears v Raiders outside game winning FG & it’s Cutler’s INT? After THAT performance?!”

    Meanwhile over on Sportscenter’s THE BLITZ I don’t believe they show ANY Bear TDs and Tom Jackson doesn’t even mention the Bears in his recap while jabbering about how good the Raiders have looked this year.

    • The GP

      Waddle, who works for the 4-letter pricks now, concluded his bit by saying:

      “This doesn’t mean the Bears are a real football team yet. Not even close.”

      Thanks Tom.

      • wreckinball

        I think the Ds play has returned them to being real
        Still not good but at least real
        Can we dump Clausen now
        Dude can’t play No reason to have him on the roster

      • SC Dave

        Tom is, of course, absolutely right.

    • MB30SD

      I was just about to post about this tweet Al.

      Brutal. I see this shit all over the place. Never anything but our lowlights on any networks.

      Have to chase the story till it’s indisputably dead… and that’s on this team. And I’m ok with that.

    • beninnorcal

      I’m always making notes of our consistent shunning by said networks. I notice it even when we are competetive and winning. My wife notices it now as well.

      • SC Dave

        Why do any of you care?

        • madscout12

          If the internet didn’t exist, then we’d care. But there’s the internet. Thank god for the internet.

          Y’all need to get rid of cable…you’ll be happier. Nothing but shit on Cable anyway.

    • CanadaBear

      My issue yesterday was trying to find out the score driving home 2 hours from the airport. I literally listened for over an hour and a half before they even announced the score. Forget the highlights it was the score and that’s it. Pretty sad. That was Westwood 1.

  • The GP

    The Lakeland Destroyers????

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-coach-leo-davis-referee-punch-20151005-story.html

    I’ve been to Lakeland, FL. Should call themselves the Lakeland Ecology Destroyers.

    That or the inbred numbnuts.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Only time I’m in Lakeland is when I’m driving through to go to Disney World…

  • The GP

    I would like to see a remake of Midnight Cowboy using Jimmy Clausen and Brian Hoyer as Ratzo Rizzo.

  • FresnoBear

    So are we all on cutlers dick again?

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

      some of us never got off the ride!

      • beninnorcal

        Waffle?

        • He has transfigured.

          It was the perfect storm of Soldier Field, Cutty and Tradewind, the holy trinity, if you will.

          • CanadaBear

            Did you just call Johnny a tranny?

        • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

          I have transcended from Waffle Cutty Badger to Cutty of the holy land known as Nararene….Olivet Nazarene to be exact.

          • BerwynBomber

            Not much room but somewhere we need Waffle in that new handle.

          • TheBigCheesy

            I’m pretty sure “Waffle” was only in his original handle. He hasn’t had it in there in years.

    • For a week. Kinda. Just the tip?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Yup, tastes good.

  • wreckinball

    Well Jay and the gang can beat Oakland but I’ll definitely take it. I’m not sure we can generalize much more than that
    I think the defense playing a whole lot better is my reason for optimism.
    Jay at least recovered from what could have been another game killing turnover and Robbie Gould should now be his best friend

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    My biggest takeaway from yesterday was that having Porter in there and playing competently allows Fangio to send extra rushers in an exotic way to generate extra pressure with a lot less fear of being roasted on the back end. He showed some creativity yesterday and it begins with having, at the very least, an adequate secondary.

    • Pissed Off

      Yeah and was mentioned earlier we didnt hear Fuller’s name called much which should be a good thing.

  • DocNitty Ellipsoids Ornamental

    So this is what Victory Monday’s feel like? I could get used to this.

    • MB30SD

      almost forgot huh? me too.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Sean Lee on the shelf, again.

    Yeah, I had the over/under on “The Chris Chandler of Linebackers” staying on the field at about 4 games.

    • BerwynBomber

      Reminds me a bit of Conte. Undersized kamikaze type who will forever be on and off IR.

      • willbest

        A shame too, because he is fun to watch.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I don’t mean to denegrate the guy, he is an excellent linebacker when he can play but he IS brittle.

    • MB30SD

      It’s a shame, the dude is a straight bad ass.

      He’s the anti conte… except for the concussions

  • BillW

    I respectfully say we Bear fans are entitled to be a little over the top with this win for two reasons:
    It’s been a long time coming
    It’s not a fluke win – it was earned with a clearly improving team.

    Still a long way to go to be playoff competitors and maybe even a ways to go to be 0.500 competitive. But as Biggsy said this morning on the Score – hey, you have to start somewhere.

    • BearDown100393

      Raiders appear to be an improving team also. IMO this win wasn’t over an Oakland tomato can.

  • Interesting tidbits from Zaidman.

    When Slauson snapped it high, he went to the sidelines and began banging on shit. Then, he cut off the tips of his gloves so he can actually FEEL the football.

    Gould has made 10/11 game winning FGs at Soldier on that southside endzone.
    So, from now on, I’m referring to him as SouthSider Gold.

    Rolle is in a walking boot. Def out this week. Might pick up a S somewhere.

    Apparently, N’Acho Libre, coincidentally, like his name sake, is a holy roller. Consoled Carr post game.

    The former was blessed, the latter cursed by Cutty of Oilvet Nazerent. The Cutty giveth, the Cutty taketh away.

    • BerwynBomber

      Any word on Rolle beyond this week? That looked like it could be a high ankle sprain and mean a few weeks in the tub.

      • They didn’t say, and you know Johnny Tight Lips Fox isn’t going to volunteer any info.

        Rolle has a boot and is on crutches, but Fox will might list him as “Q”.

        • BerwynBomber

          That would be Albino Lovie Tightlips to you.

  • More Score Tidbits.

    Gase was set to become HC in SF. But he did NOT want Tomsula as DC.

    9er management in their infinite wisdom decreed Tomsula MUST be DC.

    So Gase told them, “Fuck you.” And took Fangio with him to CHI.

    All those years of 9ers stomping us, and they did us a solid.

    #karma

    • The GP

      All hail Jed Dork.

    • willbest

      It also means we might be in the market for a new OC if the Phins see Gase as the solution to Tannehill.

      • BerwynBomber

        Don’t give them ideas.

      • AlbertInTucson

        The solution to Tannehill is get the poor guy some protection. Their offensive line is awful.

  • The GP
    • BerwynBomber

      CLE owner(s) would have to be high on the list.

    • AlbertInTucson

      At least the McCaskey’s cleaned house put someone in charge who actually seems to give a damn about the actual football product.

  • BerwynBomber

    “Most Teams Don’t Have That”?

    Let’s not get carried away. Kirk Cousins drove his team the length of the field for a go-ahead TD with seconds left yesterday.

    Cutty rebounded well and deserves some props. But a) we need to see more (let the season play out), and b) yesterday’s result/performance does not mean that Pox are enamored with him long-term even if he is, by far, the best option on the current roster.

    • wreckinball

      The other option is Clausen
      Everyone in the NFL is better than him and possibly some folks in the stands

    • beninnorcal

      I do agree with Jefe that Cutty is better than half of the other teams QB’s. Add Kap to that group.

      • beninnorcal

        Also agree that it would be retarded to dump him until we have a comparable replacement.

      • BerwynBomber

        Close call. Cutty’s usually on that top 16 borderline. Good years he is below it. Bad years he is above it.

        • I’d say more he’s middle 10. There are 10 or so clearly better. 10 or so clearly worse. 10 or so roughly the same.

          • BerwynBomber

            Six of one/half dozen of the other … I would say 12-20 range but we’re more or less in agreement.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Then he’s #11.

  • BerwynBomber

    McPhee continues to look like a good signing. That’s a welcome development. Especially in comparison to Emery’s Jared Allen signing last year.

    • SC Dave

      Yes; this is a move looking better all the time.

    • Yeah, I was giving McPhee some beef, but he did look VERY ordinary early on.

      We’ll see how he holds up for the whole season though. It’d be nice to hit on a player for once.

  • I like the new yearly tradition of London being the death-knell for coaches. – PFT troll

    Someone needs to parody this. Something along the lines of, “Joe Philbin got fired!” to Suedehead, or “London Falling”..

    • BerwynBomber

      Do Pagano and the Colts travel there this year?

  • Viva

    I want to be an NFL Power Ranker.

    • willbest

      Is that just so you never have to see the Packers ranked #1?

      • Viva

        Well that, and if by chance there is a power ranker reading this I can make them feel better about their career field. I mean, who wouldn’t want to rank power?

  • WP34

    Whats going on with Rat?

    • BerwynBomber

      Good question. I thought we were getting him back for OAK.

      • WP34

        I heard he has some sort of aliment…I can’t recall

    • willbest

      Ankle is the reason he was listed inactive.

      • WP34

        thanks. Hope he gets back so we have many DL in rotation as possible.

    • high ankle sprain suffered in 3rd preseason game.

      • And a month later, he’s still out?
        That’s a helluva ankle sprain.

        • high ankle sprains take their time. Especially for DL needing to push off it with force every play.

          And he’s old. Takes longer to heal. But those are typically a 4-6 week injury.

          • Making me think Rolle might be out a month or more.

          • AlbertInTucson

            “And he’s old. Takes longer to heal.”

            DON’T remind me, please.

  • BerwynBomber

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog “No joke. I thought Dan Campbell was still in the league”

    I don’t recall him as a player but he might be adequate as a short-term/interim guy if he is committed to running a tight, disciplined ship.

    That is the thing with following doormats like Trestman and Philbin. So long as you instill accountability and have the player’s respect, the team will be a notch better even with the same talent. And the HC himself doesn’t need be a Walsh-like genius, at least to start that initial but crucial turn.

  • BillW

    Bears 1st down plays by my count (not rechecked) including plays with a penalty. 20 runs. 10 pass including a cutty scrsmble. One fumble on the exchange that we don’t know what the call was.

    So not as lopsided as I thought. Didn’t break down situation or distance or how many runs in a row. Of course a few fd passes on the last drive when they had to

  • The GP

    Eddie Goldman, to record his first sack as a Bear, walks back Jamarcus Webb into the QB.

    Fun fact.

  • Trac

    This goes kinda in line with Jeff’s QB comments. Houston has been forced to start a bum 3rd rd pick because they have no other options. In my opinion, the new pass happy rules have ruined the game. Sigh.

    • SC Dave

      Have to agree. Far too much dependence on a QB. Bad for the Bears, since we rarely if ever have high-calibre QBs.

  • madscout12

    It isn’t the argument that Cutler can win it and others can’t. It is just that Cutler can win it, and nobody else on the TEAM can.

    You draft a kid, and sit his ass behind Cutler until he outplays Cutler. You go with the route that has worked for the last several superbowl winners…draft a guy and play him when he is better than the guy you have. Or in other words, play the best damn QB on the squad. That is Cutler this year, and probably will be next year too. And if in 3 years, that is still the case, you pay Cutler some more until that is no longer the case. It isn’t that f-ing hard.

    • madscout12

      Oh, and BTW, you cut Clausen now. Because you know what he is. If next year, he is on the team, I have some serious questions about Pace. The above scenario doesn’t preclude looking for a QB, and the Bears should be looking for a QB that is better than Cutler. They need to fill the other holes on the team too, but if a QB is there, you draft him, because we have time to develop him.

    • BerwynBomber

      Depends on a) if Pox thinks Cutler is a championship-caliber QB, b) if he’s not, what is the drop-off from Cutty to a “proven” veteran bridge guy (think a Fitzpatrick or Sanchez type), and c) how might the money saved from unloading Cutler be better used.

      (As an example, a Fitzpatrick or Sanchez currently costs you $4M a year. Replace Cutty with that salary and you have money leftover to buy two Pernell McPhees.)

      They could very well choose your not “f-ing hard” suggestion but there are other ways to skin the cat.

      • madscout12

        Cutler will not get his current salary on the next contract. He is reasonable for the next couple years. We do not have the offensive pieces for a guy like Fitzy to compete. Sanchez can’t start in front of Sammy Biscuits and sucks with one of the best offensive coordinators in the game.

        Cutler is every bit the QB of Joe Flacco, and Joe Flacco won a championship. Cutler is every bit the QB of Eli Manning, and Eli won two.

        • BerwynBomber

          “Cutler will not get his current salary on the next contract.”

          Doesn’t matter. He is owed 16M next year. Pace tried everything he could to dump him last off-season. I’m not unconvinced that won’t happen again.

          • madscout12

            If Cutler continues playing like he is, he is worth every penny of 16 million.

          • madscout12

            Also, if you can give me the Jets’ D, Oline and WR and Fitzy, absolutely…we take that over Cutler.

            All of those other pieces are better than the Bears.

      • RenoBear

        But here’s the thing… Even given Cutlers contract next year, we are still projected to be $60 million UNDER the cap… We’ll be hard pressed to spend that smartly as is… Fuck over paying for guys (see Suh, ndamakong and Haynesworth, Albert)… I’ll still take Cutty over Fitzpatrick and fucking Sanchez. As much as people complain about his contract, it’s NOT a hindrance to what we are trying to do here. In fact, I’m glad we have him on a year to year basis until we get someone else in the next draft or two. At least we will have someone who can PLAY the position.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Money saved from unloading Cutty? We will paying him 12m in 2017, and 13M in 2018 …. … find a cheaper NFL QB than that.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Eternal questions:

    1) How did the Universe begin?

    2) Is there life on other planets?

    3) Why is Jimmy Clausen still on the Bears’ roster?

    We’ll probably find the answers to #1 & #2 before we figure out #3.

    • AlbertInTucson

      4) Why is Robin Ventura still the manager of the White Sox?

  • AlbertInTucson

    Shouldn’t Acho’s nickname be “Sneezy”?

    • BillW

      Ugh

      What’s worse though is my mind cues up the Village People when I hear his name. Acho Acho Man…

  • BerwynBomber

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog “Seattle doesn’t want Wilson running like this. This is how you get quarterbacks hurt. Their offensive line is a disgrace.”

    But DET’s O-line may be even worse.

  • The GP

    I need 3 points to win my FF game. I have Jimmy Graham playing. He’s good for 3 points, right?

    No. The Seahawks going into the 4th Q, still haven’t gotten him the ball.

    • madscout12

      Pete Carroll is playing it to fuck over your fantasy team. Pete Carroll doesn’t believe that FF is real or good. He also doesn’t believe PEDs or recruitment violations are wrong.

      • The GP

        Luckily Pete Carroll got the fuck out of USC before that shit rained down on him like frogs in a biblical plague.

        • madscout12

          I don’t think luck had anything to do with it.

          • DocNitty Ellipsoids Ornamental

            Yeah, he was at Stanford.

      • MB30SD

        Me and pete’s like 2 peas in a pod

    • madscout12

      Well, looky there…a couple of passes to Jimmy G and AHHAHAHAHAHAH…LOL Wilson.

    • That’s why I didn’t go for Jimmy in the draft.
      The SEA threw the LEAST last year. Weren’t going to change this year to accommodate him either.

      Talented, but scheme and Oline highly questionable.

  • madscout12

    15 seconds keeping the play alive. God help Russell Wilson when he gets old.

    • madscout12

      Doesn’t stop fumbles. Holy crap does that line suck.

  • WP34

    Peanut punch

  • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

    So Wilsons fumbles don’t mean shit, lol. Oh Detroit.

  • BerwynBomber

    Gut-wrenching loss for the Kittens.

    • MB30SD

      Dude, FUCK the lions .

      • Johnnywad

        FUCK. EM.

  • madscout12

    AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA.
    Only the Lions. Couldn’t happen to a better team.

    • madscout12

      Check that…could happen to the Packers. Fuck the Packers.

    • Johnnywad

      Boy. That is so Lions

  • MB30SD

    Baaaaaaaaahahhahahahahahhahaa… the Lions just lioned themselves. Fucking awesome.

    Btw, I would have kam’s baby. Fuck, wish we would have offered him something

  • madscout12

    Seattle gave that one away. The Lions were like, “nah, we’re good.”

    • madscout12

      From Pride of Detroit.

      “Wow. Just poop in my beer, wow”

  • Johnnywad

    That should pretty well end Detroit this season. They’ll mail it in now.

    • Add Caldwell to the hot-seat.

      • BerwynBomber

        Nah, I don’t see it yet. Key FA losses in the off-season and they’re a franchise that has shown loyalty to their hires in the past. Plus, arguably their best remaining defensive player has yet to play a game this year.

        All bets are off if Caldwell goes 2-14, but I suspect last season (and its post-season trip) buys him a third year.

        • Plus, the stink of Schwartz probably still hovers.

          • BerwynBomber

            Exactly. Caldwell can still trade in on his maturity in lieu of Shorts.

  • BillW

    Illegal batting of ball. Should have been penalty and lions ball.

    • BillW

      Glad kittens lost but how the hell do they miss that

      • EnderWiggin

        I was wondering if the Seahawk was supposed to be touching it.

      • Fail Mary karma? lol

        • BillW

          Same end zone. Batting happened Nearly same spot

      • Johnnywad

        The NFL will be compelled to do something here.

        • BillW

          I’m sure they will send a nice condolence card

          • Johnnywad

            The ref standing on the end line at the back of the end zone will have to be publicly flogged and/or fined

          • Scharfinator

            They will tell Detroit they screwed up in about a week, but obviously, that doesn’t change the results.

  • BerwynBomber

    Never been convinced that all NFL officials know the rule book.

    Laughable that the league doesn’t make these guys full-time employees. Build them a small, modern facility somewhere and require them to train and study in the off-season. Maybe even during the week between games.

  • BillW

    Obscure rule and yet I do remember that. It’s different if say a punter does it on a bad snap. In that case he trades a safety for the chance the other team could land on it for a td.

    But here the Lions had possession and Seattle batted it to avoid a Detroit td. Penalty

  • BillW

    This ex ref is kind of tripping over his attempt to defend the official.
    .

  • BerwynBomber

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog “Ray Lewis provides the stirring commentary only a man who obstructed a murder investigation could.”

    Hah! It’s not even about the hypocrisy of the St. Ray stuff anymore. He’s just a horrible commentator.

    • BillW

      Weak explanation on ESPN saying well maybe the official thought the ball was going out anyway.

      Not necessarily. It could have turned over and bounced back or up. The fact is the guy batted the ball

      Since when do they call penalties that way? . We didn’t call holding because we figured he wasn’t going to sack him anyway?

      If that happened to the Bears I wouldn’t be able to sleep

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, I don’t know what Dilfer was trying to accomplish there. Let’s cut the league a break for blowing a game?

        • BillW

          Now Blandino says official felt it wasn’t overt. Except it was. Blown calls happen but seriously I think it was an official not knowing the rule

          Blandino also said not reviewable but they will likely discuss changing that

          How did football become so reactionary?

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    LMAO!!!! This MMA fighter literally got the shit knocked out of him during a fight.

    http://deadspin.com/mma-fighter-in-choke-taps-out-shits-himself-leaks-shi-1734797210

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