• Viva

    FUCK ISIS

  • The Yes Guy

    Yessssssssssssssssssss?

    • Johnnywad

      Now you’re just reaching. You’re better than this.

  • AlbertInTucson

    So, Andy Dalton is all bent out of shape because J.J.Watt “dissed” him with a CHRISTMAS STORY comparison? Something along the lines of “We wanted to turn the ‘Red Rifle’ into a ‘Red Ryder BB Gun’…” or such. Which, BTW, they DID.

    Sheesh.

    We dropped a CHRISTMAS STORY /BB Gun reference here last night!
    Is Seattle’s front office or Jimmy Graham pissed at me?

    Either Dalton got a “garbled in transmission” version of what Watt said or Andy needs to start spelling his name as “Andi”.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      yes Seattle’s front office and Graham are both pissed at you. i would watch your back.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I even block better than Graham.

    • MB30SD

      who gives a fuck what that evil ginger thinks. Just kidding, but he’s a douche.

      I’m very sure 99 gives less of a fuck than me.

      • Scharfinator

        All the yoga he does has helped him grow a coochie.

        Yoga is actually alright, but Dalton is crying about some silly trash talk. Who wouldn’t laugh about that? You got beat.

    • DocNitty Ellipsoids Ornamental

      I think part of the problem was that Dalton was told of the quote from a reporter at the post game presser. He didn’t see the playfulness in the response and the reporter probably made it sound a lot worse than it was. Blame the tabloid journalists for this one. Anything to get a rise.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Like I said. “Garbled in transmission.”

        Still, when someone tells you “so and so said” your first response should be “I haven’t seen/heard that myself so I can’t/won’t comment.”

  • The GP

    It’s ok to talk playoffs, Jeff – when the Bears are two games above .500

    Not before. The Gong Show icon stays up until .500

  • CanadaBear

    Interesting comments from Carey. He said the Rams D tried to be bullies and he doesn’t like that. He wants to be the bully. He also said the OL bullied the Rams D and the Rams got pissed and started with the cheap shots. Both he and the Black Uni have made derogatory comments about the Rams D. Fisher + Williams = dirty play. What a shock!

    • BillW

      It’s probably overdone but that’s what he gets for hiring Williams. I sort of thought the officials were looking at them a bit closer. Don’t remember the play but I remember thinking the Rams got flagged for something another team might have gotten away with. Probably a roughing call on Jay.

      • CanadaBear

        I didn’t see anything at all but when 2 players mention it there must have been something going on.

    • That’s the feel I got too. I noticed right away they were DRIVING Cutty into the ground. Leno actually came over once to pick up Langford when they were trying to drive him to the ground (earned some respect from me). You could tell that Oline was very “aware” and not about to let them get away with that extra shit.

      That’s why on game day thread I wanted me some Carey. When they hit him square he jumped up right away in the guys face and pumped up, like, “You ain’t shit, boss.”

      This is why I wanted a banger since forever. It’s that extra attitude that deflates defenses and inflates Os.

      I see it all the time when the NFCW teams play each other. It’s almost like “who’s mas macho” and who is going to impose their will.

      I think we found out who is mas macho vs the Rams.

      • Irish Sweetness

        We have Lasike on the PS don’t forget. 230, 5’10.

  • BillW

    To Irish from the other thread:
    (Saw your response in my email from Disqus which I’m beginning to pay attention to. I know there is a big time difference for you )

    You are correct that Jay put up a 151 (career best I believe) on Sunday. The 95 I referred to was season to date. Which was a big jump from his 80-something just a couple games ago. And I was surprised that that was no better than slightly above the median for QBs with a decent amount of attempts.

    Jay said he didnt’ play his best. Ignoring the fact that he benefited from two very long catch and run TDs (as every QB does from time to time) his statistics were still fantastic. 19 out of 24. Only 5 incompletions. Can’t do much better.

    And even if you want to somehow discount the two 80+ yarders, his accuracy is still 78%. Meaning they would have likely had sustained drives in place of the quick strikes and his rating would have been well in the triple digits anyway.

    But Biggsy in his film review today said Cutler didn’t have as good of a game as his numbers indicate. Again, how much better than 78% does a guy need to be be? Disappointed in that comment and when I get some time I intend to rop him a quick email. He used to always respond the few times I have done that, but of course in the Twitter world we live in there is no time.

    • CanadaBear

      I don’t think writers are even aware of their prejudices. Almost every write up I’ve seen about last sunday mentions the 2 long TD’s and act like ti was all on the TE or RB. If it was one of the golden boy QB’s you’d never read that disclaimer.

  • BillW

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/11/17/will-nfl-take-action-against-morellis-crew-again/

    Mentioned this on the other thread – if the refs blew a game like this for the Bears I’d be sick.
    And this isn’t the Fail Mary where the replacement ref made a bad, wrong but still judgmental call. This was an entire crew of supposedly the best the NFL has to offer blatantly missing an obvious penalty that would have ended the game in favor of the team that lost.

    You can’t say “well, you don’t know what would have happened from that point on, becuase the game would have been over. In fact one could argue that given the error, a reversal could actually be made.

    I just don’t know what it’s going to take for the NFL to realize they have a problem. But it’s like the trend in customer service these days. Always apologize. Always say you understand the customer’s frustration. Because that’s a lot cheaper than actually improving things.

    • Scharfinator

      What was the line? That’s what got the replacement refs out – when a billion dollars swung because of that interception call.

      • BillW

        I looked it up and felt sick that I actually wondered the same thing. The line was 5.5 in favor of the Ravens so the Jags already covered.

        Of course there is the W/L bet to consider; the parlays; and maybe they had the Jag kicker on their FanDuel team.

        Roger is really ruining football. My fear is this keeps happening and costs us next year when it will matter.

        • Johnnywad

          It might matter this year Bill. This ain’t over yet. Bears have won 4 of 6 losing two squeakers in the middle. They are capable of running the table if they continue to improve as they have each week. Denver and Green Bay both looked like unwinnable games in September. I think they’ll win both. The remainder of the schedule is full of up and down teams. My opinion, the next ten days tells us a lot about when the Bears season will end.

          • BillW

            I don’t want to bring myself to think that far ahead this year. After the first drive by the Rams I was already thinking “this time I actually might be upset if they lose”. And then it turned out they dominated.

            The year has been surprisingly enjoyable in part because I’m not living and dying with each win/loss. I’m enjoying the process of a great team being built. Much like I did back in 82-83-84.

          • Johnnywad

            A reasonable approach.

            You know, that first drive Sunday……the Trestman Bears would have packed it in. Not so much under Fox/Fangio. I was hopeful that Fangio would fix it before the D took the field again. I’m not savvy enough to know what occurred thereafter, but the Bears were a different team after that drive.

          • BillW

            We are on the same wavelength. I remember thinking “wow – they over commit to the run and they get smoked like fools. This is going to get ugl…WAIT – it’s not Mel F-ing Tucker, stupid. It’s Fangio. BEAR DOWN and enjoy what comes next when you see the adjustments.”

        • Irish Sweetness

          My big bet for the week was the Jags and Bears both to cover, so it was a bunch of fun to watch unfurl, knowing the Ravens couldn’t foil the spread.

      • SC Dave

        Follow the money. Always follow the money.

  • DocNitty Ellipsoids Ornamental

    Some of you may remember the problems I’ve had with the missus. Most of is centers around her complete lack of housecleaning want-to and general irresponsibility. Well, yesterday it seems her recent habit of sleeping in til the last minute and letting the boys (ages 7 and 10) get themselves ready for school backfired on her. Due to her sleeping in, the youngest got up around the crack of 8:30 which is when the bus leaves. So he missed the bus and thus misses school because we only have one car right now. But does she mention this to me? No. I find out from him when I ask him how school was. And this is NOT the first time this has happened. Full disclosure, she has a part time job that in no way contributes to the problem.

    So now I’m really pissed and don’t know what to do. If I leave her (and it would be for many reasons), she would inevitably get at least half custody of the kids. And then how will I be sure anything gets done? How will I know they made it to school, or had clean clothes, or were fed, or are generally being taken care of? If I stay, it’s just day after day of me swallowing the bitterness because bringing up my issues with her just leads to fighting and no improvement.

    I’m so fucking stuck and I’m so fucking pissed.

    MAYDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • BillW

      Feel for you Doc. I have a friend going through a rough divorce right now and it’s affecting every part of his being. My take from it is there is no good solution – only the least horrible one.

      Wish you the best that can come from such a bad situation.

    • Johnnywad

      Damn Doc, that sucks.

      Sure as hell sounds to me like your situation is untenable. I’m no expert in this area but that can’t be the best arrangement for the kids as it currently stands. Sounds like you have to at least explore what you can do to insure they are looked after should you split. Can’t imagine it wouldn’t be better for all involved.

    • You’ve mentioned it before, but how long have you seriously been contemplating divorce?

      I remember I talked my bud out of divorce because at the time he wanted it, they had JUST moved out of an apt and bought a house. The kids were around your kid’s age, and I told him he couldn’t get divorced. No way. The kids would suffer too much at the time.

      He stuck it out, and they’re still married and the kids are now 18-16ish and OK.

      However, he didn’t ponder divorce for a long time. In his case he was more frustrated at certain issues, but it wasn’t a DAILY grind.

      If you’ve been debating divorce for years, and this is a daily grind issue that you determine is absolutely not going to change, then I think you know what you have to do.

      It’s only a matter of time before you blow-up and shit gets really bad, and that might be worse for the kids long term (and definitely worse for you).

      That’s just my 2cents. But I’ll let the other hubbies chime in.

      • Irish Sweetness

        This is probably a situation MOST men find themselves in. Love the kids, don’t love their mum.

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

      Swedish. Au Pair.

      • Johnnywad

        Swedish I get. Asian, I get. Polish? WTF?

        • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

          The Polish Au Pair, if young enough, will be strict but fair, blonde and hot, possibly open to a little horsing around (at least in my fantasy), doesn’t crack under pressure, can look the other way if the household is weird and tension filled and will only talk bad about you to her other polish friends….and even then will say it in polish.

          • Johnnywad

            They make young hot Polish women?

          • MB30SD

            Seriously?!?! Fuck yes

          • Johnnywad

            I had no idea. The only Polish women I ever knew were round, with sausage fingers and bad acne. Just assumed that was standard fare.

          • MB30SD

            They all look like that once they hit 40, but before. .. Google image “hot polish girls”

          • Johnnywad

            Ooooh. Wonder if I’m going to get long vowel sound “o” or short vowel sound “o” on “polish”.

          • It’s sorta all or nothing with Polish chicks.
            Either they’re insanely hot (and usually pretty tall) or they look like trolls.

          • MB30SD

            Every polish woman ends up looking EXACTLY like this: http://gitez.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/1317.jpg

            The woman is the pic is 40.

            …but until then, they can be smoking hot.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            haha, it’s like 30yr old running backs in the NFL

          • Irish Sweetness

            When they entered the EU, Ireland was inundated with young Polish people who came during the boom. Lots of hot chicks taking up the waitress/checkout girl positions. Never a fan, I must say. Chocolate for me.

          • Irish Sweetness

            They have that Russian peasant look about them …..

            You see all these “hot” European models .. and all I see is “peasant who needs food”. They will have agenda. An Asian just wants the visa and a little cash … and she will have an ingrained understanding of being the ‘minor partner’.

          • MB30SD

            And they can cook like fuckall. Good choice my maings

    • Viva

      Does she have a hyper/hypo thyroid? My wife has a jacked up thyroid which makes her excessively tired. She now takes a pill everyday to keep her thyroid regulated and functions normally (for a girl…just kidding).

      Have her get some blood work done.

      I would hold off on any decision until the “why is she so tired” question is answered…

      • That’s actually a good point. My sis was the same way, and everyone kept thinking she was just an insomniac and lazy, but really it was just a thyroid problem she had since her 20s apparently.

        Docs said, “oops. my bad” and now she’s much more “regulated” though she still has some problems waking up super early, but nothing like before.

      • SC Dave

        Damn good idea, Viva. Could be anemia too.

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

      Doc, in all seriousness. You may want to go see a counselor by yourself on your own time and with her jointly so you can voice concerns in a controlled environment. It would help because your thoughts on the matter would have less of a chance of being lost in an argument.
      My wife has a thyroid issue as well and she was always tired. She battled through it but was always pissed off as a result. She had her blood work done and her thyroid is being addressed. She is now only pissed at me half of the time.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Hey, my missus has that too! Over-active? Thing is we can’t afford her medicine .. nor mine.

        Asian nanny is looking like the all-round winner. I could even get you one. She’d be a hooker though.

    • CanadaBear

      Doc I’ve got a couple of suggestions. Try the therapy route if possible. If that’s not possible or you aren’t happy with the outcome, go to an atty and find out where you stand post divorce. Living in a 1 bdrm apt with no money and only seeing your kids part time, might be even worse than your current situation. Good luck my friend

      • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

        agreed Canada. Nothing would lead to Doc being on the news in an icky way faster than being pissed at his wife, her not addressing valid issues, then having those issues result in him moving out into another apt that he has to pay for as well, pay her to exist and pay to see his kids half the time.
        I told my wife that I’m never leaving no matter what happens and when I laid it out for her like in the paragraph above she laughed and agreed that that is how people end up in blue barrels in shitty Midwestern swamps.

        • CanadaBear

          One of my best friend’s got divorced years ago. He was by far the best parent of the 2 and it wasn’t even debatable. He didn’t want to put his daughter through a custody fight and took it in the shorts on the divorce. His ex was living the high life with her live in moocher and my buddy was in a shit hole apt licking his wounds. And he made good money. It took him a good year to save up his money, buy a house and get his life back on track. I got divorced in my late 40’s but we didn’t have kids. Huge difference.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            Canada, didn’t you get a vasectomy when they were first invented? Back in the days when they just kicked you in the testicles repeatedly until they detached? You made that sacrifice because you hate condoms that much. I respect that.

          • haha. I have a Filipino friend who told me that as a kid they circumcised it right on the beach then made him run into the sea.

            Somehow, I don’t think that’s what Moses had in mind.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            damn, that’s old school.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Agreed. It boils down to poo-say. Are you in such a bind, that you want to live separately (away from your kids), so that you can have new pussy? Paying for two households?
        Tread carefully.

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

      Doc, in all seriousness. Polish Au Pair. Here is my reasoning. If you get divorced or separated you’ll be paying for a ton of shit, seeing your kids half the time, worrying about them the other half and paying your wife or ex wife to continue doing her thing.
      Instead, if you INVESTED in a household assistant several times a month it would cost a fraction of the amount and although it would definitely enable her lack of household want to at the same time it would dramatically cut down on the amount of actual tension and fighting. You’d be annoyed as fuck about paying for it but guys have paid far more for far more illegal or immoral things to lower their levels of pissed off-ness.

      • CanadaBear

        That is incredibly insightful advice! I mean that in the best possible way. I always love practical advice.

        • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

          that’s because you’re Canadian and you’re a practical people by nature.

      • Sactowns#1

        Plus there’s the nookie on the side. That always helps with my stress levels.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Dude. Genius. The string of nannies I’ve had running around the house. Laotians. Cambodians. Jesus.

        All for the price of a bag of crisps. It might be different in the USA. But there will be illegals nearby. Asian nanny. Sorted.

    • DocNitty Ellipsoids Ornamental

      Thanks for the advice y’all. Kind of surprised nobody mentioned a hit man.

      • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

        ain’t you never watched Dateline? Never over the interwebz

      • Is she insured? (just kidding)

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        no need for a hit man, plenty of “accidents” can happen around the home.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Prussic acid. Hydrogen cyanide. Fatal. Untraceable.

        The above is a reference to a substance the CIA used to try and kill Castro by putting it in his toothpaste and is in no way a suggestion for you to get that into her nightcap.

    • Two things, Doc:

      1) Document when things like this happen. Could be important for custody if you decide to get a divorce.

      2) I have a few thoughts on this I’d rather discuss with you privately. Could you maybe send me an email at woodjohnathan1@gmail.com?

      • DocNitty Ellipsoids Ornamental

        Done.

    • Sactowns#1

      Hmmm… this is tough. I’ve been in quite a few long term relationships but never married. I think the hardest part about ending any of those relationships was essentially deciding to end the life I had as it was and start all over. That can be a frightening prospect, especially with family involved. And at times I still contemplate what my life would be like if I had stayed the course. And who knows what my life would be like, but I do know one thing, I would be miserable. I was miserable at the time and I cheated and lied because of it and it made someone who I loved on various levels to hurt. In the end you have one life and you need to make sure you’re happy and healthy.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Dude. I feel ya. Generally the whole ‘working mother’ thing doesn’t work. I had to call time on it for many reasons.

      As you say, her job doesn’t impinge on the situation. So … why is she staying in bed late? Letting the kids get themselves ready for school? Does she have prescriptions? Maybe that you don’t know about? Get her a piss-test kit. They make them now for most drugs. If you get much resistance … warning.

      She’ll get custody and sue you for maintenance, so you’re left with a choice. Remain in place and do your duty as dad, accepting that you’ll be in place as a ‘family’ for the forseeable i.e. suck it up … or flee the nest and hardly see your kids, but pay for it until forever. Was she always a lazy bitch, or could this be a semi-recent thing and it’s drugs?

      I chose to stay in place and sacrifice my own needs, but I get to watch my girls grow up, scream, bitch and moan, smile, laugh, sing. We’re not married, so I have zero rights to those kids. But bear in mind … whatever it takes to stop her say “I’m taking the kids.”, do so. When I heard those words, it was followed by “…and you’ll never see them again.” Didn’t see them for three weeks and thought it was for good. I used to come home from teaching to an empty house and wonder was I going to hang myself in the wardrobe or do it out in the carport (where my hung body would be on facebook within minutes). Unbelievable mental trauma.

      But when she stopped work, and I said “we’re not a couple, but I’ll look after you” … all the bullshit stopped and she became a good mother again. And don’t feel like you have to have two cars, I don’t even have one!

      Feel for ya maings.

  • Viva

    You guys have heard me tell you about Rule Number 1 in Marine Infantry Officer Course a thousand times…:

    Never be a pussy at the point of attack.

    I think now is as good of time as any to let you in on Rule Number 2:

    Turn the fucking map around.

    In other words, when you are devising a plan and about to send some of your boys down range, you better have looked at the map from the enemies point of view.

    ISIS is fully capable of winning this war, if not today, a hundred years from now. We need to grow our dicks again.

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

      Viva, this.

    • BillW

      This one seems as difficult if not more than Al Qaeda. How do we (the world) beat them? I assume it takes infiltration / spying / and a certain amount of persuasion of captured members (that some might call torture).

      You know, the stuff W was criticized for.

      No easy answer – and I don’t mean to start a political discussion. Just wondering if you think they can in fact be defeated or just controlled.

      After 9/11 I had a discussion with a friend about wiretapping etc. He said he’d rather die than given up his freedom. Told him he just might get his wish.

      And if not him then maybe his children and grandchildren. And not by fighting for their freedom but simply by going to work and having a bomb go off.

      • Johnnywad

        Why would he have to give up his freedom? Was his phone a candidate for tapping? The government can tap the shit out of my phone if it helps prevent bombs from going off outside my grocery store. Know why? Because I have nothing to hide and know that the jack booted thugs are never coming to get me.

        • MB30SD

          As usual I’m with you my maings.

          I always tell my buddies i couldn’t give a smaller fuck if I was a midget about the government looking at the shit on my phone/email.

          I hope the dude looking enjoys the free tits/vajajay/cock shots and stupid smack talk. Have at it buddy…. and if it saves one ‘mercan life, hallelujah!

          • DocNitty Ellipsoids Ornamental

            I don’t let such things bother me, but I feel the complete opposite. I want freedom and I want privacy.

          • MB30SD

            Privacy is an illusion my man. There’s no such thing any more.

          • DocNitty Ellipsoids Ornamental

            Fairness is an illusion as well, it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t strive for it.

          • willbest

            Depends on what you mean by fair. Some people are just born smarter than others. So which is fair.
            1) spending the same amount of money on every kid’s education and letting the chips fall where they may
            or
            2) spending more money on the dumber kids, and less money on the smarter kids so that the difference between them is narrowed
            Or
            3) spending more money on the smart kids, with the social obligation on those kids to give back to the rest of the country.

          • SC Dave

            Equality of opportunity, not of result. That’s what it’s all about.

          • I’ll tell you this much, if you don’t teach “dumb” kids, they become a problem for everybody.

          • Scharfinator

            I’m with the third one. I have to imagine the societal benefits and, dare I say, benefits to mankind will be much greater should we elevate the genius, rather than the peons.

          • SC Dave

            Absolutely no question that is true.

          • Irish Sweetness

            1. Spend more money on good teachers, and change your unions to allow for the sacking of bad ones.

            2. For a supposedly ‘free’ country, it is reprehensible that a person must go to the school designated by their postal address.

          • BillW

            As I said, I didn’t want to start a political discussion. I just figure we all have to give up a certain amount of “rights” to be safe.

            I put it in quotes because no one can really agree on what a true “right” is. Or at least where the line is. The old “yelling fire in a crowded theater” thing. We give up “rights” all the time. The “right” of a 20 years old – in the service of our country – to by liquor legally for example.

            Privacy is another thing. And yet we give that up too. Can the govt know how much money I make? Sure can. Can the govt know where I live? Of course. Can the govt know if I’m taking part in activities that might bring harm to others? A little stickier – and thus it’s not clear if that’s a right or not.

            My friend was talking theoretically of course – and he was talking about rights of privacy for all as a greater good. And I tried to get him to see that there are even GREATER goods – like his kids lives.

            Where do you draw the line – well, we all have very different answers. All I know is I’m PAYING the govt to protect me. I will do my part by being vigilant etc but if they need to tap a few phones etc I EXPECT Them to do it.

          • SC Dave

            “Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”

            – Benjamin Franklin

          • MB30SD

            Oh, I’m all about fair my man. ALLLL about it. Ripped my family apart because there wasn’t any.

            You know how I feel about your sitch at home my maings. You have to get there yourself though. Peeps don’t change after 6, 7, 10ish. Gotta be happy… but do it smartly. Do your research set things up know what’s what and make sure everything is lined up in your favor, then get happy again. Mostly for your kids, they see, hear, and mostly feel everything more than you two do.

        • willbest

          Except you know the whole IRS targeting. Or in Chicago, the health inspector shows up to your restaurant when you try to host a fundraiser there for a non-machine politician. Or the prosecution of Scott Walker and illegal raids on political enemies going on just north of us. Then all the data hacks by foreign governments getting data on US citizens from our government’s computers. And hell it doesn’t even need to be the government. Private individuals are losing their jobs for supporting a position that is agreed to by 50% of the population.

          • Johnnywad

            I’m not really sure I follow the entirety of your point but here’s what I know……

            I’m a business owner. No wire tap is going to help the IRS target me. They’re already elbow deep in my asshole.

            I don’t live in Chicago, so city inspectors don’t bother me.

            I stay as far away from all politics as possible. They’re all assholes. Both sides of the aisle. It’s a prerequisite to run for office.

            I don’t have any idea what your last sentence means but that sounds terrible.

          • willbest

            The point is the overall climate in this country is one of massive distrust and rampant abuse of the system. I could go on and on. For example CPS kidnapping children because the parent let their 6 & 10 year old walk to and from a park that was roughly a mile away. And forcing the parents to sign agreements that they would abide by Government approved parenting standards in order to get their kids back. Agreements that once signed would allow for no due process rights to the parents.

            And the last person I was referring to specifically is Brendan Eich who donated $1000 to prop 8 in 2008. A position that at the time was supported by Obama himself. There are plenty of others that have lost their job for wrong think. Tim Hunt was misquoted and lost his job. The president of Mizzou for deciding to wait for the police investigation to complete before doing something about the poop swastika. There are people in this country that are looking for scalps and the last thing we need is for there to be less privacy.

          • SC Dave

            You go man!!

          • SC Dave

            What he means is that the statists, primarily Democrats and their operatives, are using private information collected by the government to destroy people’s lives. Kind of the inverse of the McCarthy era w.r.t party.

      • willbest

        There are only two ways to successfully deal with ISIS.
        1) Extermination – See how Saddam, Qaddafi, Assad stayed in power before we went and mucked it up
        2) Containment – The way the Romans did it to my barbarian ancestors (the Scots), build a wall and kill anybody that approaches it.

        If the US took either approach they wouldn’t need to monitor their own population.

        • MB30SD

          Both?

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

      Viva, please safety check my terrorist action plan. here is my current Go Pack:
      Less than Half bottle Tradewind
      Sig P250
      2 Snicker Bars Minis, one partially opened by 3yr old.
      An old edition of “Oui” from 1978
      Some Hello Kitty bandaids
      Paracord with Triple H carabiner
      Matches – non water proof
      steak knife wrapped in papertowel and duct taped because old sheath used by son to collect jewels, “see Rocks”. Currently lost.
      Topographical Map of USA 1997

      • Johnnywad

        Without a genuine Rambo knife you’re fucked.

      • MB30SD

        Pppppperfect! You’re 100% ready to bug out soldier

      • you’re ready.

      • Viva

        Please add the following:

        Extra Strength Gold Bond Powder (Trust me, when you can’t shower, and you’re not getting laid, a little Gold Bond on the nutsack in the morning feels divine…)

        Headphones (even if they don’t work, they always look like they work, so you can tune anyone out)…

        2 wash rags (because you don’t want to clean your face with your ass rag)

    • SC Dave

      Do not underestimate the savagery of which the West is capable. Genocide has been on the agenda more than a few times.

      The world has been overdue for a major war for a long time. Whether this becomes it remains to be seen. Could this be the death paroxysm of Islam? Stay tuned.

    • Irish Sweetness

      They’re like a huge guerilla outfit.And guerillas don’t lose.

      • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

        huge difference here Irish as a large part of the western world and even parts of the east are starting to realize that this virus will continue to spread and will affect all parts of the world. These crazy motherfuckers just pulled Russia into a war that it was more than happy to sit out just because they didn’t want to play with America and look like they were playing second fiddle. Now you have Russia running joint ops with a pissed off and fully aware France???? Then you have America realizing that we are about 1 or 2 small to mid size attacks from complete pandemonium??? Shit is going to go down and this time it’s going to be fucking ugly…for them.

        • SC Dave

          For everyone

      • They ain’t shit, Irish.

        The Vietcong were tougher and more determined in much more hostile environment.

        Now you got France, US, etc pissed and doing surgical strikes and even Saudi Arabia funding rebels to combat them (not to mention the Kurds and even Russians).

        They wanted an apocalypse, and like David Koresh, they’re gonna get it.

        • SC Dave

          This aint no pissant Janet Reno affair, Butch

  • Shady

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Great view of a great play design. https://twitter.com/mattbowen41/status/666682509325938689

    The reactions from the St. Louis defenders are pretty great. #53 Daren Bates does his best Chicken Dinner cat chasing a laser impression. #95 William Hayes gets a two hand touch on Cutty before realizing Miller Time is wide open in the end zone and proceeds to smack himself in the head in digust. Well played Gase, well played.

    • Scharfinator

      Miller made Cutty look good there. A 360 pirouette with a full body extension catch? Nice.

      Granted, they do pay Miller so he should catch it, 🙂

      • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

        Scharf, he had to throw it over the entire D line, LB’s ,etc. Miller is 6’3. That is an easy catch.
        If he throws it low and it’s picked by a D linemen we’d never hear the fucking end of it. People would be calling for McCown and Fales.

        • SC Dave

          It was a routine throw for anyone that should call himself an NFL quarterback.

          • CanadaBear

            Fair enough but Cutler might have been throwing to a spot and Miller was a little off. Who knows? Who cares? It was a great play, call and only fair on the execution = TD. I was a happy cat watching the game.

          • SC Dave

            I don’t get all the hatin’ on ol’ Dave. It really was not a big deal. A dozen QBs in the NFL make that throw 8 or 9 out of 10. What makes me happy, honestly, is that FINALLY our guy MAY be one of that dozen.

            So far, this season, there is plenty of evidence that Jay is one of them. But I won’t be sold until I see it in Lambeau.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            Dave, the defender was inside Cutler ass. it was a great play, a great play fake and a great catch. A great football play. What is with you guys? Off the back foot, under pressure, to the back of the endzone where only his guy could get it. Jesus.

            seriously, it’s time to give the fucking guy some credit. I could put together a highlight reel of the shit that has been pulled off this year and you’d shrug it off. Annoying.

          • SC Dave

            Ok… so how many ties do you see Cutler’s name on this page?

            http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2015/leaders.htm

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            dave, did you not learn to count?

          • beninnorcal

            Watch the throw again, Dave. When Cutler throws the ball, he does so jumping backwards, ball is right where ONLY Miller can get two paws on it, very impressive toss. I’m not sure there are too many others that can make that throw.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            I’m surprised that Dave even acknowledged that it happened seeing as it didn’t involve Forte, Olsen, McClellin or Conte.

          • beninnorcal

            Or Alshon.

          • MB30SD

            Mmmmmmmmm… McCleeeeeeellin and Coooooonteeeeeee

        • Scharfinator

          An easy catch?! Where do YOU play ball?

    • MB30SD

      Well well well

    • CanadaBear

      Yeah, when the guy goes in motion and then Miller releases, the poor bastard was betwixt and between. Both guys were open.

    • Inverted wishbone giving me an inverted boner.
      That’s a good trivia question. When was the last time the Bears used or scored off an inverted wishbone?

      Data? Al?

    • MB30SD
  • BillW

    An article I read today also pointed out something that Joniak/Thayer noticed – the Bears keeping their defense on the field a couple times on 4th including the failed fake punt the Rams tried.

    I bet the TV commentators didn’t realize that.

    I don’t really fault them; they do several different teams during the year and even though they have a week to prepare and interview etc they simply aren’t going to be in tune like the local guys are.

    It’s a bit of a pain to get the TV picture synced with the radio (delayed) broadcast but worth the effort.

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

      punting units, specials cost them them at least 1 win this year. I can’t remember if the Lions converted a fake punt too to extend a key drive.
      If Mariani is the returner just keep the D out there and fair catch it. Until you get a real returner it doesn’t matter. Not to mention the fact that we get a block in the back 50% of the time.

      • BillW

        Agree – especially the way Cutler and the offense is playing . Goes for kicks into the end zone too. Just take a knee so they only have to go 80 yards.

  • DocNitty Ellipsoids Ornamental

    One of the reasons I’ve been enjoying this season, is because of a little lesson baseball taught me. I never watched much baseball. Too many games, not enough action…. But I’ve always loved the game. So this past Spring and Summer, I made myself watch as many Mariners games as I could. I think I was desperate for some competition given the Bears season in ’14 and the Blazers lack of a team. So I watched probably 90% of the games just to see if there was a MLB fan in here somewhere. I have to say, I loved it and could write a whole essay about things I learned watching baseball.

    But this is number 1. There are 162 games in the MLB season. At the start of the season, I was always looking at the win/loss record and the standings. But there are so many games that thinking this way every game in a baseball season is exhausting. So I found myself just watching each game hoping they would win THAT game. And it’s interesting the perspective that brought. it really put the love of the game first, and things like championship chasing a distant second. You can even bring that mentality down to every at bat, or every pitch. Just watch for the love of the game, the win or loss will happen either way.

    How does that help with football you ask? Football is the opposite. Every game feels like a playoff game to some degree. And when your team sucks, it’s too easy just to cash in your chips for things like draft position dreams. So, figuring my beloved will not do much this year, I made myself carry the baseball mentality to each game. I no longer care about seeding and playoffs during an actual game. It’s the game that I love, not the trophy’s (though they would be nice). So it brought back the entertainment value of the game and the love of the team to my sports watching palate. All I care about is that game. All I care about is the current play. All that other stuff will follow. It’s made for a less stressful experience and it’s brought back some of the simple joys of just watching football, rooting for my team.

    Thought I’d share because something Bill said below made me think of it.

    • MB30SD

      Good thought my doctor.

    • BillW

      It’s the one thing I enjoy most about watching the game live (at Soldier Field that is). Winning that particular game is incredibly satisfying. It doesn’t matter at all what the record is, or what the point spread is.

      I honestly don’t care if they are favored by double digits and win by one. You do get the idea live just how difficult it is to win ANY game against ANY opponent.

      I’m nearing my mid 60s and I high five like a young ‘un out there. I’m in a position where I can afford to buy a stranger a beer just because I like their Bears gear or a comment I overhear (my sons don’t know I do that and if they are on this board and recognize me and tell their mom I am going to deny it! And stop buying them beer too.)

      I just love the camaraderie of true Bear fans.

      When I was a kid and my dad would come home from a game, I might say “you saw a great game today”. And he would always say ANY win is great!

      • willbest

        Them be $12 beers, that is spensive.
        I have mixed feelings about going to Soldier Field. Game feels smaller and slower there. Fans make it a great experience, but only in a win. Otherwise it feels like a 20,000 person funeral procession going through the tunnel under LSD on the way back.

        • BillW

          I only go to 2 games a year now. And the fan experience in a loss is cathartic to me. Your analogy is good. Why do we have funerals? Not for the dead obviously, but for the mourners. If they are going to lose I like to be among the mourners too.

          Win or lose that describes my addiction to this board as well. Shared experience among true Bear fans.

    • BillW

      One more comment –
      We all feel it coming, don’t we? Might not be for another 2-3 years. But we all feel it coming.

  • The GP

    Non-Chicagoans – i.e. most of you.

    My nephews are CPD, as I have mentioned. If Emmanuel loses the fight to keep this video contained, in light of the France attacks and Spike Lee’s upcoming Chi-raq movie – you can expect HEAVY violence once the video gets distributed or airplay

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-police-shooting-video-kass-met-1111-20151110-column.html

    So those punks that threatened Waffle on the South Side? Yeah. Avoid 79th and Western. Avoid Evergreen Plaza.

  • MB30SD

    http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/11/17/bears-offense-jay-cutler-adam-gase-john-fox

    Shhhhh shhhhhhhhhh….

    I just sent the following email to 4 of my charger friends:

    ” Cutler > Rivers”

    • MB30SD

      here’s one response I got cut/paste as received:

      “It’s really sad that the bears beat the chargers. Did you guys have fun at the game? Seemed like a bear love fest in the stands. Not surprising considering the sad state of affairs with the bolts. I hope they keep losing now. Just get a higher pick and hopefully team sucks so bad the other owners pick the Rams to move rather than the Chargers. Would love to see Fabiani and the Chargers crawl back to SD and beg for forgiveness.

      But no way is Cutler better than Rivers. I’m sure every gm in the league would take Rivers over Cutler.”

      Bahahahahaha

    • SC Dave

      MB for the win

  • willbest

    I agree with Jeff, Peanut deserves a SB ring, just sad it won’t be with the Bears

    • MB30SD

      panthers will bet crushed by the cardinals. that’s a scary team.

      • willbest

        I don’t know, game will be in Carolina at this rate.

        • MB30SD

          meh

      • SC Dave

        I would not count on that, MB. Carolina has an excellent D too.

        • MB30SD

          they do indeed. we’ll probably get to see at some point dave. should be an entertaining battle.

  • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Still love to see Bears sign Nick Perry off BAL practice squad. Watched him play ton at Bama. Thought he was bigger playmaker than Collins.
    yes please Jefe, all day long. Both he and Collins were strong players at Bama.

    For a second I thought Nick Perry from the Packers had been cut and signed to the Baltimore practice squad and I think my bears bone almost burst through my pants.

  • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

    You light up the highlight reel 2 games in a row and you get the podium. Well done Z. Miller.
    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Perseverance-paying-off-for-Miller/d491ce51-6cae-4804-a4dd-ccfb9e68fe55
    If he and Marty can stay dialed in that is a huge way to move the chains on early downs and create matchup issues.

    • huh. He sorta looks like my best friend. Is that shirt a pink floyd shirt, or is he part oft the simpson’s stonecutters? Irish, help us out here.

      • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

        what was really cool about that play is that the exact same two routes were happening on the other side of the field. Bennett and Wilson did the exact same routes as Miller and Alshon. You’ll see that play again.

    • MB30SD

      I like that kid.

      And my god his hair… it’s so perfect!!!

  • Hmmm. Dre Archer is pretty explosive, isn’t he? Try him out, I say.

    Free agent return specialist Dri Archer worked out for the Jets on Tuesday.

    It’s Archer’s first workout since getting waived by the Steelers two weeks ago. Archer doesn’t have a position on offense, so he’ll have to revive his career on special teams. – Roto

  • MB30SD

    Western civilization is about to come crashing down upon us.

    How do I know this you ask? Where is my proof? Paris?

    Nay, HERE is my fucking proof: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000582410/Dog-riding-monkeys-amuses-crowd-during-halftime

    (turn away if you know what’s good for you)

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

      haha, they fucking go pro’d it

      that clip, spliced with the Go Pro footage needs to be slowed down like a Warren Miller movie with Awolnation “Sail” playing at full blast.

      • MB30SD

        so brutal. those poor little monkey souls. :_ (

        • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

          that guy was holding on for dear life

          • MB30SD

            hahaha…………………… *sniff*

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            maybe get a rescue monkey instead of a dog?

          • MB30SD

            BOOM!!!

            (filthy little beasts)

  • beninnorcal

    Just wanted to throw this out there as it was being discussed below who was more impressive on the short Miller TD, tosser or catcher. I think it’s very close as that was a beautiful grab by Miller.
    It was mentioned that this was just a regular throw that any NFL qb would have no problem with. My advice is to watch it again in slo-mo. Cutler makes this pass while doing a fade-away jumper, all arm, puts it right where ONLY Miller can get two hands on it. This throw was very impressive on second-sixth looks. I don’t think there are many other qb’s who make that toss.

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

      dude, don’t even worry about it. I try to ignore it at this point but it has gotten so bad.

      • beninnorcal

        I did want to mention it already because I rewound so many times on my rewatch of the game. I was REALLY impressed bh this throw, damn it was nice. The discussion below reminded me.

        • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

          I was watching the highlights and watched him have to wait on the route because Miller sold the block so much and so perfectly, the defender closed in and he had to jump back and throw it at the top of his motion so it wouldn’t get tipped or picked. Miller is 6/3 and a great athlete and he’s a professional TE unlike other TE’s we’ve had that would NOT have made that catch.
          You just can’t satisfy some people.

          • Johnnywad

            Jay has had a high volume of brilliant throws this year out of “bad mechanics/bad footwork” in tough situations. He’s a playmaker.

            It’s popular to bitch about his mechanics when he throws a pick, but the same folks never acknowledge the fact that those same mechanics produce touchdowns and first downs. It’s a miserable double standard.

          • There’s a point though. Throwing from different platforms is great, but there’s a thin line between Fat Lesbo and what Cutty is doing this year.

            For instance, there’s NO reason why he should ever do that backpedelling BS anymore. And to his credit, I don’t think he has even once this year. I’d rather him throw it into the stands than see the invisible bicycle make an appearance again.

          • Johnnywad

            https://youtu.be/maO-7XyjE3gg

            Check the last two TD throws out. At least one is a straight up invisible bicycle. The other is more of a hi jumping, slightly backpedaling bicycle. Guess what I’m driving at, is at least for now, he’s making Touchdown throws out of that shit. Sooner or later, one’s going to get away from him and everybody will shit their collective pants. Let’s not forget the games he’s winning BECAUSE of his ability to make those throws without his legs.

    • Irish Sweetness

      What about the little dink to Langford that went for a long one? I watched that again yesterday and thought “Oh, nice touch.”

      • beninnorcal

        Loved that one as well. Beat the blitz pretty bad.

  • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

    I want this team to do well. I really do. I want them to run the table but the realist in me knows that if Jay is not perfect or nearly so they won’t win because they don’t have the ability to score on specials or on D. It is a simple case of the quarterback of the Bears needing to play at a level so high that even his biggest detractors can’t fault it.
    Other “elite” teams can survive, albeit not often, 1TD, 2 INT games, 60qbr rating games, multiple fumble games, etc. The Bears can’t survive any of that and until they do we’re not going to sniff consistency in the playoffs.

    • The Bears can survive 1 INT games, and I cited that Cutty has 9 games with no multiple INTs, the 2nd longest streak behind Brady with 15 such games.

      As long as he keeps that up, we’ll be in every game.

      Keep in mind that McPhee and Forte will be back, our Oline is still gelling, and we often forget this, but our D, O and Specials is still in year ONE and learning every game.

      I’m rather optimistic.

      The only question I have is their mettle. They need to win a road game (a real one where half the attendees are Bear fans) IMO to take the next step of “contender”.

      They also need to fucking score more in the 3rd Quarter.

      • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

        the Bears scored and were winning with mere minutes to go in both the minny and detroit games…..due to 4th qtr TD drives by you know who. People had the audacity to bring up the 1 INT earlier in the game as the deciding factor.

        Playoff teams win games during the year when their QB is off. Until we have a squad like Seattle that can win when Wilson has a 25 rating i can’t see consistent success. The D is not strong enough, the specials are a joke.

        But i still enjoy the hell out of the games because guys are playing with heart even if they lack skill. The skill will be obtained in the next years.

        • I think this team is very different than the one that faced the Fudge or even the Lions a few weeks ago.

          Something about them has changed. It’s imperceptible, but I got the feeling that they really believe they can win any game.

          I think I mentioned this before, but during the bye a lot of them got together and watched film before taking off.

          Last year they would have been in Maui right after the loss.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            i believe they can win any game….as long as Cutler plays in a way that has David Haugh, David Kaplan and Jeff Dickerson almost praising him….and Lance Briggs not being a total douche in post game with his palpable disgust when he does well.

            and with that i’m done with any Cutty talk. Let’s discuss Tracy Porter…a healthy Tracy Porter as one of the best pickups in the offseason!

          • SC Dave

            I agree, although I’d rather not attribute anything to Haugh, even indirectly.

          • The GP

            You should have listened to Macho Acho on the Score tonight.

            He says the team looked at film, saw that the games they lost were down to 2-3 plays, and raised the game.

          • EnderWiggin

            I’m glad you are coming around man. You are like the 4ever of 5 years ago.

          • 5 years ago we had a good team!

            Last 2-3 years have been rough, though I did think we would sweep the Fudge last year before the season started (oops)

      • SC Dave

        Or, fuck, have more than half Bears fans EVERY road game!

      • Irish Sweetness

        They need to score ANYTHING in the third quarter.

        If we were scoring in the third quarter we’d be a superbowl team. Nine games, no points.

    • willbest

      I am more optimistic than you. D has played well against every team without a good passer. There is only 1 good passer left on the schedule. Unfortunately its a must win game for the Bears if they are going to go the distance and Jay is going to need to win that one which he has historically not been able to do (though if they lose 4-straight they might start panicking). That being said they probably aren’t going to win us any games (multiple TOs/ 3 and outs).

      Special Teams is frightening and any aspect of it could end up costing us the game.

      Offense, Cutler has played some outstanding ball, but really its the O-line and RBs too. This is the best run game the Bears have had with Cutler. I know he has to step up and be Mr. 4th Quarter and by and large he rises to that occasion, but it isn’t all on him. The coaches are chewing the clock, shorting the game, not regularly putting him in 3&7+.

      This is a team that I am pretty confident will finish with 8-9 wins at this point and if they take Green Bay, that might be enough to propel them to 10

      • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

        no one has ever been more optimistic than me on this blog. ever.

        • Viva

          I’m close.

    • SC Dave

      You mean, play like Rodgers? Damn it would be sweet!

      • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

        yes Dave, playing like one of the top 3 quarterbacks ever to play the game of football would probably be an advantage.

  • The GP

    The team would do better if WR2 had game. Plaxico and Amani Toomer. Moss, Welker and Stallworth.

    Gotta have a #2. Wilson is capable of playing entire games and not being visible. He’s in the background of every shot. He’s Zelig.

    • Irish Sweetness

      AJ will be the #2 next year!

    • Well, White was supposed to be our #2, then he got hurt.
      Then Royal, then he got hurt.

      It’s hard for anyteam to have 3 deep WRs.

      Look at the Ravens. They’re down to Kamar Aikman.
      Before Dez came back, don’t even know who the #1WR of the Boys was.

  • MB30SD

    oh well… herrrooooooooo

  • SC Dave
    • gotta hand it to Shea… he played his best game of the year last Sunday.

      He was atrocious on the 1st drive, 2 blown assignments that gave up 2 big plays, but was great after that. Made plays near the LOS(!), forced a TO (1st impact play of the year), and was in perfect position on the fake punt; guy wouldn’t have had the 1st down even if he had caught it because Shea was right there to bring him down.

      More from Shea like that and I’ll be just fine with him as a starter in 2016.

      • speaking of Shea in 2016: I’ve been saying for a while he’s an ideal worst starter/top reserve. I don’t like him starting next to Jones and Acho.

        I’d love to see him starting next to, say, Myles Jack and Von Miller. That’s a LB unit (with Pernell McPhee) you can build a defense around.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Acho, Timu, Jones, Anderson. There it is. And two or three new guys in front of them.

    • Johnnywad

      Well I can’t fault you for your loyalty to your guys. But isn’t that really the first above average game he’s had since putting on a Bears uniform?

  • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene
    • willbest

      Meh… blow up some abandoned mud huts. Don’t change the policies that lead to your country being attacked. Feel good and call it a day.

    • Those Rusky Jets look badass.

      However, too bad they bombed CIA/Saudi backed rebels fighting Assad. I’m sure that was accidental.

  • Irish Sweetness

    R.I.P. Jonah Lomu. Dead at 40.

    I never saw a bigger load that moved as fast.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Took the Jags -3. They beat the Bills 4 weeks ago, and they can take the ball away. Their O is kind of exciting. Anyone on?

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