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Audibles From the Long Snapper: Making Scoreons Happen, Prestigious Jobs, Marshall & More!

| January 22nd, 2015

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DBB Coins a New Term

From Twitter, yesterday:

Many like to use the phrase “meatball” to describe a certain kind of fan. In Chicago I am going to refer to those people as “Score-ons”.

It is on all of us to make this phrase happen.

BIGGS, BEARS, BAD JOB?

Because I tend not to forget and choose to hold others accountable, from the opening of a New Year’s Eve piece in the Tribune by Brad Biggs:

In announcing the massive housecleaning Monday at Halas Hall, President Ted Phillips called the Bears’ head coaching job prestigious.

He stands nearly alone in that opinion in light of a Tribune poll of NFL front-office employees and coaches who ranked the Bears barely above the Raiders in terms of attractiveness.

Quarterback concerns left the Jets at the bottom, but the Bears job wasn’t considered much better even with Jay Cutler, the passer in whom they have invested so much money and whom Chairman George McCaskey said he is a fan of personally and professionally. Elsewhere, Cutler is classified as a coach killer.

The Bears landed an in-demand (young) GM, a head coach who has been to two Super Bowls, the best defensive coach on the market and an offensive coordinator who interviewed for just about every head coaching vacancy. Rumors have it that if the Bears job were prestigious, Vince Lombardi would have climbed out of his grave and agreed to a five-year, $35 million contract.

Three Thoughts on Brandon Marshall

  • After what we saw on the field in 2014 is Marshall really being criticized for his postgame tirade in the aftermath of the Dolphins game? Isn’t it possible that Marshall, a competitor, saw on the field that day what was to come from this group of players for the remainder of the season? The effort the Bears showed that day, at home, was pathetic beyond reason. Marshall seems to have been the only player concerned. If he threatened to fight half the roster I’d have said “good on ya.” The coach surely wasn’t going to raise his voice.
  • As for Marshall’s behavior being enough to show him the door…what are we, children? Is this kindergarten? Remember the ’85 Bears, idol-worshiped across Chicagoland? Marshall would be a boyscout in that locker room. That team seemed to have a roster rule, enforced by the head coach, that if you’re driving home you first must have half a dozen cocktails. And don’t get me started on Olin Kreutz, the Bears’ celebrated leader and gun range criminal.
  • And while the Scoreons continue to assassinate his character, Marshall continues to be an advocate for mental health issues desperate for the type of attention he provides. Here is his recent PSA:

BRADY IN THE SNOW

DBB co-founder Noah Brier and the great Shady sat beside me in a blizzard at Soldier Field on December 12, 2010. We “watched” as Tom Brady impossibly delivered bullet after bullet, carving up what was a solid Bears defense. Nobody understood how he could be that effective in those conditions? Question. Don’t the revelations of the last week at least make you think about all those great Brady-in-snow performances?

What Did John Fox Say?

This video was sent to me by @DaSuperfan & @DaSuperfanss on Twitter. Is it great? No. Did it make me laugh when I had a few beers in me? Sure did. (Sadly I didn’t even know what the video was spoofing. New pop music isn’t exactly my thing.) Nothing wrong with promoting some fans who put in the effort to entertain.

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  • WP4Life

    Go bears!

    • Frank Schoenburg

      +1

  • Scott W.

    Good morning. I’m unable to turn on my super wit powers (cape stuck in phone booth door) to generate “Scoreon” laughter, so I’ll just raise my coffee cup to the rest of you.

  • GPLDAN

    We need a 0-tech NT in the draft and move to 3-4 with Fangio.

    Bostic ain’t got it for a 3-4 LB, and perhaps if he hits the HGH hard, Shae could make it at ILB but I doubt it. Christian Jones can be a 3-4 LB. Briggs and Williams are goners.

    Fuller is not a press corner like you need in a 3-4.

    This is going to be a long road. sub .500 this year, hoping for 10-6 the next, Cutler gone – try and get the QB then. We’re in Cleveland territory, we need a draft like Kevin Costner in Draft Day.

    • John Doe

      John Church @lincolnhawk29 · 10h10 hours ago
      @AaronLemingNFL per @DraftCampbell #Bears talked to Danny Shelton he’s projected first round NT

      • GPLDAN

        Shelton is a Vince Wilfork type.

        http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/159574/danny-shelton-looking-dominant-early-at-senior-bowl

        Imagine a trip to Carson’s ribs with Shelton and Biggsy.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          Did you read what I posted the other day about him from Walter Football? I was instantly in on him. Although, space eating behemoth’s can be found in the 2nd-3rd rounds (Like Louis Nix/Dan McCullers last year) which has me leaning toward Shane Ray (or whoever the late riser is after the combine ala Aaron Donald from last year) if we are going to a 3-4 and maybe the highest rated OT if we stay in the 4-3. I would be happy if we drafted Shelton though.

          An intriguing name at 3-4 NT in the later rounds is Terry Williams, DT, ECU

          Me likey when the fat boys chase down plays downfield.

    • willbest

      Converting to 3-4 all but assures the Bears will keep Cutler. If the D needs that much attention (not just safety, and LBs, but D-line too), there isn’t going to be enough left over to draft yourself a developmental QB in the late 2nd or early 3rd when those guys start to go.

      • BerwynBomber

        Good point. Although the hire of Fox himself signaled the same, IMO Yes, Fox has done some serious re-building before, but hiring a 60 year old HC for a total rebuild wouldn’t make much sense.
        My guess is nearly everyone returns next years but the obvious guys like Briggs and potentially Peanut. The biggest decision the team makes will probably be Paea.

        • John Doe

          Paea is the easiest decision. He is gone. He does not fit Fangio’s scheme at all.

          • BerwynBomber

            Are we absolutely sure Fangio is a scheme-over-personnel guy? Honest question. I know nothing about him other than his tenure in SF.

          • he’s done a lot of different things. Ran a kind of hybrid in SF. Ran a conventional 3-4 in Baltimore before that. Ran a conventional 4-3 in IND, but that was 15 years ago (1999-2001). Known for adapting scheme to personnel.

          • That would be so Bears. We wait years for Paea to finally pay-off, he finally does, we switch schemes and let him walk.
            And he may very well land on the Lions too, if we let him go.

          • Frank Schoenburg

            As long as we get Suh, we can let Paea walk.

          • SC Dave

            The only coordinators worthy of respect are those that can mold their scheme to fit the players they have.

      • If Grayson or Bryce Petty is there for us in the 2nd, do we dare pass them up?

        I understand an ILB or S in the 2nd would be nice, but if those guys are available for us in the 2nd, I think I would have to draft them (though I’m gonna do more homework on each soon).

        That position is just too important to pass up if you have your guy in the draft.

        Unless you want Cutler for the next 4 years.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Build the roster before we worry about QB. Can we rebuild a roster when we’re rolling the dice in the second round? The only way I could be okay with that is if we were off-loading Cutler. But drafting some dude when we have Cutler, Fales and possibly Clausen … nah. Petty is interesting though – but he’s got to be your guy, we’d have to know he’s the man, and he’d be starting from the get-go. Learning by watching Jay Cutler from the bench is a bad idea. that’s just learning what not to do.

    • if the Bears run the same scheme Fangio ran in SF (no gimme), it’s a 4-3 under. Very similar to a 4-3, except the last “DE” stands up and rushes like a LB.

      So the strongside linebacker is Christian Jones, they need a Mike (true in 4-3 or 3-4), and Bostic plays the 2nd ILB, who is similar to a 4-3 weakside linebacker. Then they need a “DE” who’s their best pass rusher and lines up like a LB (the Aldon Smith role), though Allen/Young could split time there this year.

      My guess is it’s more of a 4-3 look this year, with an eye towards switching towards a 3-4 next year. That means letting Paea go and finding a nose who can play 3-4 nose (though Ferguson can handle that some). They also need a monster 3-technique who can both clog blockers when called to or penetrate into the backfield at will (the Justin Smith role) and kind of operates like a 3-4 DE. I’d love Suh for that role.

      • Frank Schoenburg

        Yes, I’m on the Suh bandwagon.

        • I don’t think they will get him, but I absolutely think they should. I anticipate a number of smaller FA signings to fill the D with competent players. I’d rather they get one building block.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Absolutely not, no more high-priced FAs. Build from the draft, and at 305lbs he’s hardly a NT. Oh you mean as a DE, okay. No.

          Plus., if you want a guy like Suh, you definitely have to dump Cutler’s, Forte’s and Allen’s contracts.

      • I agree with this assessement. I was thinking along the same lines with Bostic as 2nd ILB, needing a true Mike (Sharpton might get a shot, ), and perhaps Allen/Young getting a crack at standing up (though my guess is this might be our #7).

        However, I just don’t see Suh wanting to be DE in a 3-4. It’s a lot of dirty work, and I think Suh will want to stick to a DT in a 4-3 front.

        • I’d like Sharpton back as depth, because he’s played in a 3-4 before. But I don’t trust him as a starter.
          Justin Smith didn’t just do dirty work. He’s averaged 5.5 sacks per season under Fangio. Suh’s averaged 6.5 sacks per season in the same time span. And in Fangio’s scheme, that weakside DE is pretty comparable to a 4-3 3-technique. He just needs to be able to hold up against double teams in the run game too. Suh is PERFECT for that role.

          • Irish Sweetness

            At what price? We pay him like an NFL QB?

            If Ortion or Fitzy is under center then maybe, but Cutty + Suh ? Impossible.

    • Welcome to the wagon. Been driving it since about aught ’10. The seat is warm. The horse neighs. If you want a bruising HB along with a true NT, you get some scotch for the long journey.

      On another note, I think Fuller will be alright. Not at Peterson’s level yet, but I see some very good qualities in him. He practically won that SF game highhandedly by causing those turnovers. He showed some fight to when it was obvious the rest just phoned it in.

      Bostic might actually do better as an ILB in a 3-4. Less zone coverage which is his HUGE weakness.
      Shea is an interesting prospect once more. He doesn’t cost much. At worst a good special teamer.

      Sharpton is also in the mix, if he can stay healthy. He played in Wade Phillips 3-4 I think.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    I don’t get it. “Score-on” kinda like “moron”? If you listen to the Score and believe them then you’re a “score-on”? Am I close or way off?

    I have no idea why people are making Marshal out to be a total loose cannon. Perhaps before he we diagnosed and he was out of control…but those days are long gone. The Press suck and grab at any crumb they can to blast someone. Fuck them.

    Video was funny even though I hate “what does the fox say” song.

    • Big Mike

      If you listen to the people who call into the score, there is a 2 out 3 chance the caller is not a very informed football fan. Knee jerk responses, reinforced by the cult of the Chicago sports media who are simply trying to fan the flames of said misinformed fans. It’s a cycle that feeds itself.

      It’s not that saying the OC is terrible is wrong. Sometimes they are terrible. But a lot of these callers start yelling for the heads of an OC after the first punt of the pre-season.

      • Bears-4-Ever

        Got it. Thanks for the clarification.

  • Rikard Andersson

    “What does the fox say” is a skit from the Norwegian TV-show “I kveld med Ylvis” (tonight with Ylvis): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE

    • Bears-4-Ever

      Great, now I hate that song even more.

  • BillW

    Didn’t want to but I have to jump in on something –

    In a prior thread I mentioned that B&B insist Marshall will be gone. That generated a few comments and perhaps was a part in Jeff’s raising this issue and his poll.

    Jeff can’t see why “so many people” want him gone. I don’t think many people do.

    In no way was I saying he SHOULD be gone. I think he can be a distraction but that distraction clearly came from chicken-shit spineless Trestman being literally scared to death of him. Those are words that no one would ever assign to John Fox so that’s not the issue.

    The issue lies deeper – and in all honesty I have to suspect it’s with Virginia and / or George. B&B have been right about several things from what I remember and it may be that their source has connections straight to the McCaskey family.

    Family meeting after one of the games (that George denied but no one seemed to believe his denial). Maybe that’s when Virginia showed she was pissed. I’m speculating, but what was rumored to have been decided in that alleged meeting came to pass.

    So when B&B INSIST that Marshall is gone, it’s likely they know something, and it may mean it’s Virginia or George that wants him gone.

    HOWEVER – George just recently said “we hired Ryan and then got the hell out of the way”.

    So I suspect B&B will be wrong in actual fact. BMarsh will stay because the professional football folks will want him to – and George and / or Virginia will have to accept it.

    • SC Dave

      “… but that distraction clearly came from chicken-shit spineless Trestman…”

      First Score-on comment of the thread. Congrats! Ever heard of personal responsibility?

  • Shady

    Hey I got a shout out! awesome 🙂

    I can’t post the YouTube clip of our adventure on my mobile now, but if you search something like, “Blogfader and Noah” you should be able to find it.

  • BerwynBomber

    So Adam Gase signs up to be Jay Cutler’s latest OC. What a thankless, career-killing job that is. If history is any indication Gase, in two years, will be looking for a positional coach gig somewhere or moving downward to the college ranks.

    • John Doe

      Or he could be heir apparent to John Fox in Chicago. If he does well over the 2-3 years and contiunes to broaden his coaching skills..

      • Big Mike

        I tend to lean this way as well.

        • SC Dave

          The KoolAid way. Enjoy it until the pitcher runs dry

          • Big Mike

            Have to have a best case scenario lined up.

    • Big Mike

      Of the offensive coordinators that Cutler has “killed” with the Bears none have found jobs in the league as Offensive Coordinators again. Turner, Martz, Tice, Kromer, Maybe they just sucked at it. Not saying Cutler’s good, ( I believe he is average to above average), but those guys are not coaching as OCs for a reason.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yep, I know how it works. It is NEVER Jay Cutler’s fault.

        Anyway, we will see how it goes for Mr. Gase. My sense is this will be his last NFL OC gig.

        • Big Mike

          I didn’t say it wasn’t every his fault. He’s gone from a potentially elite QB to a guy that the Bears will try and turn into a game manager with a bit of an upside. I believe it will be Gase’s last OC gig, because he will be a HC somewhere in the next 3-5. What he has that the last few OC’s did not is a brand new coaching staff that will either redirect Cutler, or let him go. The last 2 regimes were tied to Cutler.

        • willbest

          It won’t be if he
          a) Runs the ball 50% of the time
          b) Severely restricts Jay’s ability to audible

          • BerwynBomber

            Fair enough. I’m skeptical but we’ll see.

      • willbest

        Turner was fired with 1 season of Jay, after failing to get anything out of the offense for 5 years. That wasn’t Jay’s doing. That was Lovie needing a scapegoat.

        Martz was basically retired, and he couldn’t adapt to the lack of an o-line and a rock solid pass catching TE. He did however understand Cutler’s weakness, and addressed it. So he wasn’t entirely bad.

        Tice’s offense was too simple, and he couldn’t even call it in time. Complete fish out of water.

        Kromer – wasn’t in charge of the offense, Tres was and Tres has never had a job in the NFL longer than 2 years. He also didn’t understand Cutler’s weakness.

        None of this is to say that Jay is untouchable, because if he had Aaron Rodgers or Peyton Manning’s football IQ you could stick a goldfish in a bowl at OC and have a solid offense. But it is pretty clear that the people that were brought in to do the OC job weren’t all that great at their job. Which is why they didn’t find themselves moving on to bigger and better things after the fact.

        • And the Ravens, a typically well oiled team, jumped on Trestman as OC.
          What does that tell you about who they faulted in the sputtering Bears offense?

          • willbest

            That for some reason they think they can change a guy who is now on his 10th NFL team in 20 years of NFL coaching? Look it isn’t like there were a lot of OC options this year. Plus the guy basically promised the Ravens he would run whatever offense they wanted, and he got the Joe Flacco stamp of approval.

    • I beg to differ.
      I think every sane person now truly realizes that Cutler can’t be redeemed
      (except for those 50% in the DBB Cutler poll who still believe the earth is flat).

      It’s not like before when the OC got blamed for Cutler’s jekell/hyde performance. Cutler has entered Sexy Rexy territory, and no one ever expected an OC to turn Sexy Rexy into the next Rodgers.

      Everyone knows the deal. We’re stuck with Cutler for lack of better options, so Gase will be expected to make lemonades from lemons, as opposed to making Beef Wellington from ham.

  • I thought Marshall’s postgame behavior in the locker room after the Miami game was perfect. That’s what you need out of a team leader. The guys I wanted gone from that were Gould (who Marshall had to yell at because he was laughing right after his team got his ass kicked) and Lance Briggs (who walked out as Marshall started because he didn’t care enough to get involved or hear what he had to say).

    The issues with Marshall, for me, are two-fold.

    1) Flying to NY every Tuesday. Not the end of the world, but not ideal. New coach will put a stop to it, I’m sure.
    2) Challenging a random Twitter troll to a boxing match, and then doing the same thing with a reporter after the season.

    All in all, I think Marshall just needs a better leader as a coach to keep him in line, and Fox will do that. I want him in Chicago next year, and look forward to him getting it done on the field again.

    • John Doe

      He called out Jake Cutler too in that rant after Miami loss. He said something like we make same mistakes every week we need to stop turning over the ball so much. we need to protect the ball. Cutler had INT and sack strip I believe in the loss.

      Jake Cutler and Marshall stopped being buddy-buddy after that.

      • willbest

        I think Cutler and Marshall are fine.

        • They might be friends still but doesn’t mean Bmarsh considers Cutler a leader. Bmarsh after all is the one who takes his teammates to MIA to train before the season while Cutler is sipping mimosas in the Hills.

          And I’m sure Bmarsh’s statement that he understood the sentiment of having “buyer’s remorse” didn’t get lost on CuttyBadger.

          They’ll still be professional and all that, but I think Bmarsh wouldn’t mind another QB after this past season, something that was unthinkable before.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Whatever, Kromer. Don’t you have o-linemen to coach?

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Am Score is tolerable because ESPN 1000 is Mike and Mike talking about super powered almonds (wtf) that they eat for energy. Afternoon Score however……awful isnt close to describing it

    • Big Mike

      The on air talent simply fans the flames of misinformed callers. It’s really more of a side show than a place to get sports info. I switched to listening to ESPN 1000 in the afternoon when I do listen. Fewer callers, better guests.

  • Big Mike

    BTW, on topic with Jeff’s article. Biggs is the poster child for what’s wrong with the Chicago Sports Media. His whole persona is built around throwing rocks at Halas Hall. He was wrong on every level about the desirability of the Bears job. Wrong for simply basing this on some Tribune “survey” which was about as scientific as Jeff’s polls on the blog. Wrong for not seeing passed his own bias. Job 1 for a journalist.

    • BillW

      Have to jump in again.

      Biggs really disappointed me at the end of the season. Fell into the drama which in my opinion he consistently avoided.

      But “poster child”? What about Haugh? Rosenbloom? B&B?

      I think Biggs fell into a trap based on frustration. I don’t see that as his mode of operation.

      • Big Mike

        Rosenbloom is a cartoon character. He hates everything. I don’t even consider him a journalist. I disagree with Haugh on just about everything.

        B&B are a couple of shock jock radio idiots. So yeah, they are probably the poster children. What gripes me about Biggs is that he plays the part or a responsible sports reporter, but he’s not.

      • Jokey

        We were all frustrated. At least we can turn away from the Bears train wrecks, Biggs has to keep watching.

    • GPLDAN

      But his bowling shirts are awesome.

      • CanadaBear

        Do you have any other car toys? Is the old electronics bugaboo an issue for you? Loved those cars back in the day.

      • Irish Sweetness

        How long before he goes full Kevin Smith with the ice hockey dresses ?

    • Scott W.

      Let’s just put Biggs, Haugh, a dash of Jeff Dickerson, with a cocktail of Laughable Larry in the pot here for a minute.
      These guys have marinated in Bears press releases for decades, literally (well, Dickerson is kinda new, but we’ll let him cook with his fellow ingredients), and their mortgage depends on sports, mostly the Chicago Bears.
      They began as most do, journalists with assignments to do stories on this or that, and editors peering over their shoulder, occasionally humiliating them in from of the rest of the newsroom for being too biased, too neutral, too enthralled, too disinterested, etc.
      Now, years later, they are columnists. Basically they are op-ed writers with liberties to inject their personal feelings about, oh, say for instance whether or not John Fox should wear Burnt Orange or Navy underwear. Thongs or briefs? Cotton boxers or silk?
      This changes a writer. They ride the rails with every other columnist assigned the same subject(s), and so must become unique, somehow, and develop their own readers/audience/cult followers. They need people in their thrall, or their new Buick becomes a used Kia.
      Haugh went dark. He’s like the Bears personal obit writer, predicting gloom and doom or celebrating the kill in 1500 words or less. Readers who want to be depressed love David Haugh. He lauds nothing but bad news, and delivers it with gusto. He hasn’t changed his tone in years, and he’ll retire someday as the storm cloud writer. Haugh is the arsenic you can’t taste, but it makes you sick every day.
      Dickerson seems to be following Haugh. He just does it with more space, and a little less gloom. People that want to believe they are getting the good news shrouded in skepticism will read Dickerson. Jeff D. is rock salt, the kind you use on driveways, not in stews.
      Biggs was a champion of all things Bears until this year, when he went entirely off-script and adlibbed his way into David Haugh’s readership. We all have Marc Trestman and Phil Emery to thank for that. Biggs lost his mind when he saw their product on Sunday’s, and his psyche had a seizure then collapsed. Biggs became the bad onion.
      The only reliable writer in the stew, the one doing his job year in and year out without change, is Laughable Larry. He’s paid by the Bears to do exactly what he is doing. He doesn’t have to think, he doesn’t have to investigate or postulate, he just has to make sure his participles aren’t dangling dangerously close to journalism. He’s the chicken stock.

      I don’t know what a score-on is, other than a couple of radio guys that talk to the lowest common denominator of Bears followers (I hesitate to call them fans) and whiners.

      I think that makes our Jefe the wine with which we toast, good or bad, the histrionic Chicago Bears, and their quest to be, if nothing else, interesting as hell every single year.

      • Big Mike

        A great, great recap. +100 blog points. A score-on is a Bears fan who calls the station after the team punts and calls for the OC’s head, or when they win, isn’t happy because they ran the ball too much/too little. This equals most SCORE callers. I think the on-air talent may or may not be scoreons by default.

        I think it is a great term.

        • Bender McLugh

          very much like the morons who call in to ESPN 980 in DC and rant about how the skins are so awesome.

          • Big Mike

            I can only imagine. But yes.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Nicely said +1000 blog points

      • tobijohn

        “Haugh is the arsenic you can’t taste, but it makes you sick every day”
        That is truly a quote for the ages. Love it…

      • Irish Sweetness

        Beautiful, Scott. You reading this Haugh? GET SOME!

        +1 on Jefe’s new moniker for meatball. Score-on. Love it.

  • BerwynBomber

    Doesn’t the Score regularly trounce ESPN 1000 in the ratings or am I mistaken?

    I think a couple of the reasons the Score does well are 1) it is still seen as THE Chicago sports radio station whereas ESPN 1000 is a Chicago affiliate, and 2) the Score is twenty-four hours Chicago sports where ESPN 1000 is not.

    In terms of Blogfather’s “Score-on” stuff, it is kind of childish to be taking up flags for either station given that there is a history of Chicago on-air talent moving from one to the other. Given Blogfather’s love of Waddy and Silvy he may find himself being a “Score-on” one day if they ever jump ship.

    • GPLDAN

      Two words: Mike North

      • BerwynBomber

        I actually miss North. And miss Dan McNeil even more. But the latter was just so damn un-dependable. Taking off six weeks every summer to treat his pot addiction was just too damn inexcusable. Basically the guy only wanted to work nine months out of the year, if that.

        I don’t get much out of the Score’s current/remaining talent. Spiegel was once excellent as McNeil’s sidekick but as a host himself he is only so-so. Bernstein can occasionally offer some informed, thought-provoking stuff but his axe-grinding is beyond tiresome and he is a rather odious character. I get zip out of Mully and Hanley the few times I ever bothered to listen. Same with Holmes.

        • Thisguy_justsaid

          We got mike north out here in CA now. Fox sports radio.

          • BerwynBomber

            I feel as if North himself originated and trademarked that “Da Coach” stuff. Gotta hand it to the guy: he parlayed his southside Chicago accent into a lucrative brand. I once knew a bar owner of a dive in the West Loop who spoke the same way. Quite a trip to talk to him.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Score is definitely not sports on early Sunday mornings….church sermons is what I hear on my way to work. I enjoy Ian O’Connor on Espn 1000. However I am sick of hearing Herm Edwards at the same time each week as his guest on the show but I understand why

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    I think you have to be a lunatic to think about the air in the football, instead of patting yourself on the back for witnessing the greatness on an elite all time QB playing great ball in fairy tell snow conditions at Soldier Field, Chicago.

    you can think about how fucking lucky you were…or you can think about the air in the football.

    Fuck me !!! That’s the problem when you’re spoiled, rich, fortunate. You tend to lose perspective, you stop maximizing your brain usage and give importance to the most stupid, useless shit.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      You know why Brady carved up the fantastic Bears D ?

      Because the game wasn’t played on muddy, puffy, crappy, shitty field. It was played on snow and in Boston it snows.

      Soldier Field crappy field is Bears’s ‘____gate’. Tanking for Luck is Colts’s ‘____gate’.

      • DaBearsBlog

        Or he cheats. Which just caused his head coach to spend 9 minutes deflecting blame.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          The Bears cheat with their crappy field every home game.

          Halas cheated. The 85 Bears cheated. Everybody does. It’s a sport of cheaters.

          The NFL cheats. The clubs cheat. The players cheat. The fans cheat.

          • CanadaBear

            Like the old saying goes,”If you aren’t cheating, you aren’t trying hard enough”.

          • huntinbare

            That cracks me up

          • Irish Sweetness

            Don Shula didn’t cheat. Winning is NOT everything, and people who believe it is have no integrity … for what that’s worth anymore.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Irish.. the playbook story isn’t proof of him not cheating, it’s proof he was a great HC.

            I think it’s more likely he refused the playbook because he knew Al Davis would try and put one on him and planting that playbook isn’t something outrageous. It’s a basic tactic in espionage.

          • BerwynBomber

            That was Nixon apologists’ excuse too.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I know nothing about that.

          • BerwynBomber

            It is basically the “everyone else does it too” excuse. It has been around for thousands of years. Used by millions when attempting to mitigate legal/societal/personal transgressions or violations.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            No. Sorry… it’s not like that.

            I agree with you on the questionable/debatable ‘excuse’, but my point isn’t to prove someones innocence. It’s about the act of calling someone a cheater.

            So using your example I’m not calling Noxon innocent…I’m calling all of them cheaters. I’m against the cherry picking, especially if the others have done worst things.

          • WP4Life

            your rant is funny in a good way – I like it. Winning is the everything its…….

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            “Chicago Bears: Hall of Fame defensive end Richard Dent, offensive lineman Keith Van Horne and quarterback Jim McMahon. Lawyers seek class-action status, and they say in the filing that more than 500 other former players have signed on to the lawsuit.

            McMahon says in the lawsuit that he suffered a broken neck and ankle during his career but rather than sitting out, he received medications and was pushed back on to the field. Team doctors and trainers never told him about the injuries, according to the lawsuit.

            McMahon also became addicted to painkillers, at one point taking more than 100 Percocet pills per month, even in the offseason, the lawsuit says. Team-employed doctors and trainers illegally administered the drugs, the lawsuit alleges, because they didn’t get prescriptions, keep records or explain the side effects.”

            http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10958191/nfl-illegally-supplied-risky-painkilling-drugs-former-players-allege-suit

            Belicheat allegedly used a needle on balls…Mike Ditka allegedly used them on out favorite players.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Hold on Barb, that was every frickin team in the NFL. Don’t just call out the Bears on it. It’s James Woods and Lawrence Taylor in Any Given Sunday, it’s how things were. And that’s not cheating BTW, that’s with-holding medical information, not cool – but entirely different. Cheating is gaining an unfair advantage. With-holding medical info and shooting players up with cortisone … EVERYONE was doing that. So no unfair advantage.

            No other coach has been caught filming another team’s practices nor changing the regulation air pressure in their balls for superbowl Sunday. This draws serious suspicion on all of those SB victories, and regular season wins for that matter. If they have been caught cheating NOW, and they were caught cheating BEFORE, then they’ve ALWAYS been cheating.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Okay… now we’re getting all defensive and shit. You lose like that every debate. I’ll show you.

            Remember…cheating is cheating.

            And remember… Bill Cowher on ‘spygate’.

            “The only thing (the Patriots) got caught (was) doing it with a camera,” Cowher said. “We had people that always tried to steal signals. Stealing someone’s signals was a part of the game, and everyone attempted to do that.”We didn’t lose the game because of any Spygate, because of them having any additional things,” Cowher said. “If they’re guilty of anything, they’re guilty of arrogance because they were told not to do something. But it was something that everybody does.”

            The problem with the ‘everybody did it’ is that you’re saying ‘everybody cheated’, including the Bears. I’m not calling ‘just the Bears’ for it. I’m telling you as a Bears fan to try and be more mature about it.

            That argument also makes my point. The sport is a sport that’s based on cheating. When everybody cheats you can’t call someone in particular as cheater.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Let’s keep this to verifiable proof, Barb. Belicheat is called so for a reason. Now they’ve been caught again and you’re only defending them because you’re a fan. Now Brady is lying in public, which is worse, and I’ve lost any respect I’ve had for him.

            Joe Montana, categorically, remains the GOAT.

          • SC Dave

            You’ll have to pry Barb’s lips away from certain surfaces before… um… never mind.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Nahhh… it’s not like that.

            This is like the Suh angle. Suh gets suspended and called dirty for doing some slightly dirty stepping on the foot, but Clay Matthews isn’t, even if he went knee hunting on Romo and head hunting on Wilson 2 weeks on the row.

          • SC Dave

            Umm… yummy. you can just taste it, eh Barb?

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          3 former Bears in forefront of latest suit against NFL

          http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10958191/nfl-illegally-supplied-risky-painkilling-drugs-former-players-allege-suit

          If Belichick is a cheater for some air and so is Brady…how about Mike Ditka ?

          He was the pusher for the 85 Chicago Bears. Or he could just deflected that blame on the players.

          PS: You know who’s spoiled ? The fan that calls someone a cheater for some air in the football, but idolizes a guy that force fed addicting drugs down the bodies and minds of other human beings.

          • CanadaBear

            Come on Barb, Ditka did not force feed drugs on anyone. The team supplied them indiscriminately and some players gobbled them up. I’m quite certain this was standard practice at the time.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            That’s the Nixon excuse….

            Just kidding… and trying to make a point. If you really, really, really want to call someone a cheater you should start with: corruption, bribes, doping,blackmail, ….spying,……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..football psy.

          • CanadaBear

            Not trying to be a smart ass (who needs to try?) but a lot of times I have a hard time trying to figure out if you’re kidding or not.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I’m always 100% serious when we’re talking ball.

            When we’re not I’m always kidding. That’s false..I’m 99% kidding. Today for example Jeff really pissed me off. That Brady stuff in the main post made me lose a loose.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Cheating is cheating Barb. As I pointed out somewhere else on this page, Shula refused to cheat and won two superbowls back to back, the only cdoach in history to go undefeated in a season. Belicheat likely has NO superbowls if he’s honest.

      • SC Dave

        You’re wasting your time. It’s like trying to tell Waffle something is wrong with Cutler.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I know little about Shula…but I did find this on beautiful internet. To be verified.

        “Who was the first coach to lose a 1st rounder for cheating? Shula. He was under contract coaching the Colts, at the same time agreeing with the expansion Dolphins on a contract. He worked on the Colts draft knowing he was going to the Dolphins. .”

    • SC Dave

      No, the harshness is caused by you being enamored of Tom Brady’s penis and dreaming of the opportunity to lock your lips around it.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I’m not the one that’s obsessed with Brady’s balls.

        I’ve also never had any though about Brady’s penis and the act of sucking it… others do as I’m sure someone will post about it.

        Who is it… show yourself… come on already…post about his dick and sucking his dick.

        Oh…wait…

  • GPLDAN

    I’m going to carry the flag for Danny Shelton in the draft the way Trac did for CJ Moseley last year.

    • Big Mike

      I’m going to be lazy. Explain to me who is CJ Moseley? Did he end up being a undervalued in the draft? Why Danny Shelton?

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        CJ Moseley was an ILB from Alabama, he was drafted by the Ravens in the 1st. He’s talented for sure but the main blot’s on his record were 1) Alabama defenders are crap in the NFL and 2) He had a ton of injuries in college.

        Shelton is a behemoth of a man, he played his college ball for Washington. He not only has the size to plug the run as a 0 tech, but he also offers pass rushing ability.

        • Big Mike

          First round seems like the Bears will be drafting what they hope will be an anchor on defense for years to come. Without the change to the 3-4, i would have set secondary, or middle lb. With the switch to the 3-4, Bears need a nose tackle and but their biggest need pass rushing OLB. In my book that’s the first round pick. Will Shelton be there round 2? Because that’s where they need to take the best big ugly on the board. Unless they are going after that in FA. In which case I think rd 2 is an OL.

          • Yeah, my bet would be rush OLB too (what to do with Allen/Young?)
            Big NTs typically do fall to the 2nd/3rd, but exceptions pop up, like Dontari Poe.
            If Shelton runs a 4.8ish 40 and benches buildings like Poe, he’ll definitely be gone by the 2nd, maybe even top-12.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Shelton gave U AZ problems. Arizona won that day on a long FG as time expired.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Not to diminish Mosely , who I wouldn’t have minded as a Bear selection, but he DID land in a nice spot with the Ravens having Terrell Suggs and Haloti Ngata already there.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Danny ‘Fat Bastard’ Shelton

      Now if we had Steph Tuitt beside him at end ….

  • Thisguy_justsaid

    Does the deflated ball issue even stick with anyone? Shouldn’t the league allow a qb to have the ball set at a certain psi he prefers? Just don’t see the big deal.

    • BerwynBomber

      Short-term, not much. Maybe a draft pick and a hefty fine for Kraft. Long-term, legacy-wise? I think so. Not that Brady still won’t step into the HoF day one but I think it will cast a bit of a pall over his championships.

      For Belichick the same, though I think with him it could amount to him being denied first ballot entry. Or so I heard someone posit yesterday, which seemed kind of convincing.

      • Bender McLugh

        no way they both are not 1st ballot

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      everybody hates Belichick and Brady.
      they can’t beat them, can’t join them, can’t emulate them.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Belicheat is a LONG way behind Shula, Barb.

        • Scott W.

          Bulls eye.

        • SC Dave

          Barb is a troll.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          I don’t give a fuck about Shula or how long Belichick is behind him.

    • Bears-4-Ever

      I think this whole thing is ridiculous. Does anyone really think it mattered all that much. The Patriots STOMPED Indie, the ball could have been made of lead and the score would have been the same. It had NO IMPACT on the outcome. It maybe different if the game was close but it wasn’t…get over it and move on.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        STOMPED INDIE…WHO STOMPED ALL THE OTHER CLUBS WITH THEIR SUCKING FOR LUCK CAMPAIGN.

        • Bears-4-Ever

          I don’t understand your point Barb.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            it’s called tanking.

        • SC Dave

          Troll

      • Thisguy_justsaid

        +1

      • BerwynBomber

        No impact doesn’t matter. You can’t excuse cheating because it didn’t provide the benefit the cheater hoped. That is like letting someone go for a botched robbery.

        • John Doe

          This simple concept is hard for many to understand.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yup.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            no… it’s hard for many to give a fuck about the air pressure in the big skin.

            Wait.. what… Belichick didn’t use organic big skin ? Evil.

        • Bears-4-Ever

          I’m not condoning cheating…My point is this particular issue is just not something that’s going to matter in the big picture. The press and the attention it’s getting is not surprising but no matter what is revealed, the Pats still won and are going to the SB. Will the NFL fine/punish the Pats in some way? Of course! But it will be a slap on the wrist at best.

          • BerwynBomber

            I agree about the slap on the wrist. But I think it will somewhat blot their legacy taking into account Spygate. Raises doubt about what else they might have been doing up there.

          • Bears-4-Ever

            Spygate was a lot bigger than this. Spygate could/did give unfair advantage in a greater degree. But the football issue IMHO can be chalked up as “slight” advantage at best. Cheating is cheating, I understand this, but one doesn’t equal the other in this case. It is rather sad that such a great football team, and yes they are consistently great, has to stoop to underhanded “tricks” like this when in fact they really don’t have to.

          • BerwynBomber

            Mostly agree. And I feel it is a shame too as Belichick is by far the greatest HC in my pro football-viewing lifetime. But it is what it is. You cheat — and get caught twice at it — it is going to cast a cloud over your accomplishments.

          • Irish Sweetness

            It’s a shame you never saw real class like Landry, Walsh and Shula. I don’t know how I would feel about the game if Belicheat was the greatest I’d seen. This is why I feel sorry for kids who look at Manning as the GOAT.

          • Irish Sweetness

            But now we know why they’re consistent. They have no morals. They are cheaters.

      • Irish Sweetness

        The question is that these are the balls for the Seattle game, the Superbowl, and they were caught red-handed.

    • Bender McLugh

      agreed…………if it wasn’t the Pats it wouldn’t be a story in my opinion. But with their track record of abuses it won’t go away in the media. It might be bad enough where the NFL will actually do something significant against the Pats.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Romanian implosion coming in t-minus 9, 8, 7, 6…

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      it’s called Deflation.

      The PSF in the PSY while the temperature is +/- 0 in Full Moon, post polar vortex conditions… calls for Godel to play Jesus.

      It’s in the Bible…Thow shall not deflate your balls in ‘strange’.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        I actually agree with you.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          I swear… in my to do list I have the ‘female menstrual cycle’ ranked higher than the ‘psy in the american football ball’.

    • SC Dave

      Does anyone care when trolls implode?

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    No wonder MB left…

    • Thisguy_justsaid

      He’ll be back cause we all come back. I was here when the blog first came around. When the regs were Shady, Doc, Murph, GP, Irish, MB30SD, Fresno, Waffle, MBhadaPosse, etc…. My point is we all go away at some point but show around again.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Yeah I know, I took a break for a while too (mostly once the season went in the tank, devoted more time to work, family, etc.) but there are just so many more trolls now. I hung around the old CN site (under a different alias) where everyone at least respected everyone’s opinion whether they agreed or not (except for MB providing boobies–which everyone agreed on).

      • Scott W.

        Just a meaningless history note. MB30SD wasn’t around when the blog began. I was here a few days after Jeff opened the doors for the very first time, and there were like 7 people. MB30SD came much, much later. Viva and Shady are the two I remember of the 7. I think MBHP was there too, but can’t be certain.

        Read nothing into this post, because there’s nothing here except a slight correction on blog ancestry.

        • CanadaBear

          I was on the the Trib blog years ago and it finally went down the drain. I came over here after that. Can’t remember what year that was. The Trib blog had a nice feature where you could block seeing any posts from someone you thought added no value, drove you nuts, complete troll, etc.

          • Scott W.

            I think we requested that feature, but Jeff opted out. Figured it would wind up as one guy posting into what seemed like thin air.

          • BillW

            Yeah – you guys may never have gotten to know what a great guy I am if this blog had that feature (joke)

          • Irish Sweetness

            Wow, I’d forgotten the Trib! I was on there, it started disappearing like Marty McFly in that photo….until one day the room was just empty and you were calling out “Is anybody here ?” and only hearing your echo back. A very weird blog death.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          By blog, are you referring to the ChicagoNow site? or the one before that?

          • Scott W.

            Before that before that. The blog from 2005 or 2006. I’m talking about the birthplace.

            If I recall correctly, the layout was Jeff’s column on top, going from left to right. There was a line of demarcation, then the comments were in two columns side by side.

            I’m sure there’s a cached page out there somewhere. Someone should call the Smithsonian.

        • I don’t exactly remember when I came on. I was on the ESPN NFCN blog for a while, and it wasn’t too shabby (but with obvious trolls). There were some insightful guys for each team, but yeah, too many trolls, so I randomly typed “bears blog” and Jeff’s popped up. But, if I remember correctly, the format was a bit wacky. This was before Chicago Now, then he went there, now here.

          I don’t even think I introduced myself, I just went head first not knowing what I was getting into, so that’s why when newbs just kinda crash here guns blazing, I can understand.

          Maybe they’re cast-offs from other blogs where it’s a bit more anonymous.

  • Thisguy_justsaid

    Just curious but is it written that a ball has to be set at a certain psi?

    • Bears-4-Ever

      Yes, but to lazy to look it up.

    • CanadaBear

      Supposed to be 12.5 psi +/- 1 psi.

    • CanadaBear

      BTW if that’s you in the avatar, well done! Lots of dedication to get that body. Also, if the fighting starts I’m on your side!

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    So…were the Patriots only playing with their own balls? Or was everybody playing with the same set of balls?

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      I examine mine at least once a month.

      http://tcrc.acor.org/tcexam.html

    • Bears-4-Ever

      The usual set up is the individual offensives play with their own footballs they bring to the game. The footballs are examined by the officials BEFORE the game starts.

    • CanadaBear

      Both teams provide 12 balls and they are kept on each sideline. If the weather is horrible they provide 24. The refs check them before the game and are supposed to keep and eye on it during the game. To me this is all of this is much ado about nothing. Although, I’d be more than happy to see the Pats get a large fine and lose a draft pick.

      • Bender McLugh

        so they’ll only have 2 first rounders and 5 second rounders…….lol

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          No wonder they stockpile them year after year.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Somebody pointed out yesterday that each team has a bag of balls, that only they use.

    • SC Dave

      Bottom line is that the Patriots, once again, cheated. Guess they’re still pissed about ’85.

  • huntinbare

    How can someone define the desirability of an organization in generalized terms? Most of the love affair with the Bears franchise comes from a deep personal space. We are connected to them through our heart; and that heartfelt connection can have many different origins. It could be a blood connection; an individual player attraction that blossomed into a passion for the team; a love of the way an organization portrays itself on the field of play and your connection to it; a love of bears; or you could be a history buff who has a respect for the foundations of the game you are so drawn to. There are so many reasons to want to be next to a team that it can become exhausting delineating the reasons.
    To write that the Bears is one of the least desireable jobs is almost unbelievable. One thing I do know, you are not giving yourself much respect if you have settled for writing about a team that is so undesirable.
    Without the vision of this teams founder where would all the people and jobs tied to football be right now. This point alone would make the Bears position primo. We are unique in this regard and will always be regarded highly because of it. Biggs needs a history lesson before he should be allowed to rank our club.

    • huntinbare

      One more point; the new leaders do not seem like people who settled for their current positions because they did not get the “dream” spot. They all seem stoked to be in the house. Some may think me crazy; but the group we now have decided they would team up here a long long time ago. They wanted to be on this stage all their lives and have now made it happen. Watch out!

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      It’s an objective opinion and it’s based on ownership, not Bears value.

      • huntinbare

        Was the question posed, do you want to work for the McCaskey family?

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          I’d chose Paul Allen or Robert Kraft (and others) before them.

          • huntinbare

            I was curious about the intent of the Tribs poll…work for current ownership vs. work for franchise…
            That is why I objected to the results of the survey…
            I do not know an NFL owner so I would not know which group to choose. Owners are the least interchangeable piece of a franchise; but, even if McCaskeys are difficult, I would still take the job because it is the Bears regardless. Win in this city and you become the stuff of legend. That is powerful.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            agreed. That’s why the Chicago Bears are never going to be undesired as a job destination.

            But a dude that can become a legend on his own would chose the best place for him to succeed.
            Robert Kraft in an owner for 20 years or something like that. He’s had 3 HCs… Bill Parcels, Pate Caroll and Bill Belichick.

            If I’m a Head Coach I’d surely want to follow those guys…be the 4th on that list. I wouldn’t want to be the next Lovie or Trestman.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    I’m curious about what kind of system Adam Gase is going to run. He learned under Martz which seems to favor Air Coryell; however in Denver he ran the Erhardt-Perkins system (which he learned from Josh McDaniels/Mike McCoy). Now if you look into Mike McCoy’s background (because Gase served as an assistant under McCoy for 4 years) McCoy started with the Panthers (while Seifert was still there) and initially they were running the WCO, then when Fox was hired they switched to the Air Coryell under OC Dan Henning until he left following the 2006 season. In 2007, Jeff Davidson was hired as OC (while McCoy was still there as a passing game coordinator/QB coach) and Davidson ran the Erhardt-Perkins system. McCoy left following the 2008 season to become Denver’s OC/QB Coach.

    I’m guessing EP (which is also what SD and New England run) with some Air Coryell (think Bruce Arians/Norv Turner brand) principles tossed in. I’m excited, EP is more conducive to no-huddle. Read this if you want some perspective.

    http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/fat-camp-the-erhardt-perkins-offense-part-1

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Jeff makes a good point. Gase will run Fox’s offense. It makes sense.

      His history shows you he can adapt and adopt different ‘systems’.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        The whole point of that, is that Fox’s offense changes as well. Fox had coordinators that ran both the Air Coryell and the EP. Think our offense will resemble the Bruce Arians Air Coryell adaptation with EP naming conventions.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          I think the main principle is adapting to the personnel, rather than adapting schemes.

          I would have wanted Kyle Shanahan, because he wound have bought something new to the table, something maybe Fox can’t adopt.

          That run the ball using smart, slick RBs and throw to wide opened Recievers would have been perfect for what the Bears have.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Isn’t it funny though? People make it sound like rocket science when they start mentioning offensive philosophies, when really there are only a limited number of basic formations you start from, the ball is snapped, then it’s either handed off or people try and get open .. .then you throw them the ball.

    • “EP is more conducive to no-huddle” – this should NOT excite, esp with Cutler’s brain running that no-huddle.

      There’s a reason Martz denied Cutler audibles. Well, actually, two reasons: One, recognized Cutty’s brain was a liability. Two: Martz was bat-shit crazy, but hey, sometimes the crazy guy raving at the corner is correct, just ask Irish (love ya Irish!)

      I’m hoping the offense is more late season Broncos (and not no-huddle 50 pass attempts vs Rams, Broncos).

      Late season Broncos – heavy dose of C.J Anderson, even when trailing, shots to Demaryius.

      TE Thomas was injured for most of the season, but when healthy he was heavily involved too.

      Also, one of the most underrated FA signings last season was Emmanuel Sanders. He really gave them a vertical and made that offense more explosive.

      That’s the type of WR we’re missing, unless we’re counting on Wilson to fill that role.

      Cool link though. Archiving that.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’ll accept that, Butch.

        And I think you’ve hit the nail on the head with the no-huddle. A lot of Buffalo’s success was with the K-gun. The offense has had time to plan certain plays to use against a certain front or set of players. You see that front or group out on the field and hey presto! You keep ’em in there by going hurry-up. Why wouldn’t you run that all the time?

        Because your QB needs to be smart. Hence … Bears = no hurry up.

    • This would be different,

      In fact, one of Denver’s base offensive packages is a max-protect
      formation with two TEs and two RBs – not something that you saw a lot of
      in the past couple of years. The EP also tends to make a lot of use of
      play-action, which suits QB Kyle Orton and the Broncos well.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Isn’t it strange how OCs can’t seem tot hink for themselves? They work off ancient texts in a sense .. .Coryell …I-formation …. no one sits down and thinks – right, what works? What makes sense? What are the best possible benefits of going from this formation versus that formation. Or do they? Is there anyone out there doing ‘moneyball’ with plays.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Blogfather: “Reason Cutler hated Mike Martz? Because Martz was determined to get him killed! Are people incapable of remember 3-4 years ago?”

    It’s amazing Cutler survived those days as well as he did.

    • WP4Life

      agree. and people question his toughness! physically he is a tough as I have seen. maybe his mental toughness is questionable or maybe he has questionable coaches he cant fully trust? we shall see. I just want the bears to win.

      • BerwynBomber

        Oh, c’mon. Jay has taken some shots, but physically tougher than guys like Favre or R-berger? Please. Even Brees, who is never mentioned for his toughness, played thru the same knee injury (for six weeks) that sidelined Cutty in the title game against the Pack.

        Cutty is tough and has taken some shots, but let’s not go overboard. I would argue that even Romo has played thru more painful shit than Cutty.

        Anyway, you’re right in suggesting that people shouldn’t question Jay’s toughness. But overly praising it is nearly as silly.

        • CanadaBear

          If Cutler had the flesh eating disease you would say it was just a flesh wound.

          • BerwynBomber

            Really? Good lord, CB. What are you Waffle now? Playing to the Jay-loving masses?

            NO, I never got on him for sitting out the second half of the Pack game. But I also find it equally comical to claim he is the toughest QB around.

            Jay’s fine. He is generally a gamer. Leave it at that.

          • CanadaBear

            You must not have been on here or have forgotten that Johnny and I would have the Cutler argument about once a year. We’d each fire off about a dozen posts and then let it go. I think you and and a few others are the Yin to Johnny’s Yang. Just as relentless and misguided the other way. If someone posts anything even remotely positive about Cutler you guys go nuts. I think you guys ignore the fact that the defense and ST’s sucked major moose wang I’ve said numerous times that I think Cutler is an athletically gifted, slightly overpaid, slightly above avg QB with an odd personality, that can’t read a defense to save his life. Frustrating as hell but that’s where we’re at.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            lol – major moose wang

          • BerwynBomber

            “You guys go nuts”?

            Hmmm … I would like to think I’m pretty impartial when it comes to Cutty and praise him when it is warranted. Just this year (on this blog) I distinctly recall saying he played excellently against SF (right after the game) and that it was one of his best games ever as a Bear. I also praised him for his play against ATL and NYJ. And yes the D and STs sucked, but god forbid, we also mention the highest paid player in the league led it in TOs.

            Anyway, my post in question wasn’t even critical of Cutler. I just don’t buy the fact that he is the toughest QB out there. Or to put it another way, I didn’t think he was a pussy for sitting out the remainder of the GB title game but I also find it equally ridiculous when the immediate counter-overreaction began pimping him as the toughest QB in football.

            As with many things in life, the truth is somewhere in the middle. At least IMO.

        • WP4Life

          i said as tough as i have seen – like farve, rberger, brees, romo (elway) – not the toughest i have ever seen. this year, that spear to the chest in the 9ers game -was soft. 6 or 7 one after another sacks against giants, etc… c’mon. I would say farve, elway, rberger have/are the toughest, in some order.

          i am tired of the league’s, and the four letter station, love affair and praising of manning, and double check . If either of those guys got that spear the defender would of been ejected, fined etc…

          with knee in champonship game etc… it seems as if cutty is on an island hopefully because he has had no offense coaching support, hopefully that changes for him with Fox, if not give me another Orton until another Luck comes around.

          maybe rightfully so but cutty gets no street credit.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          That beating he took against the Giants as Martz fiddled on the sidelines…you’re on crack.

          • BerwynBomber

            Every QB in the league has taken some beatings. I don’t get your point.

          • Irish Sweetness

            But are you tough just because you take a beating? If we’re talking about the 9 sack – gazillion hit game where he was walking to the wrong sideline, yes, what a terrible pounding he got … but what could he do ? Ask to come out? He’d be the laughing stock of the NFL. People would be throwing handbags onto the field the very next week.

      • SC Dave

        Physically tough… so fucking what? Cutler is not, and has never, been the guy.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Then you never saw Jimmy Mac. Cutler’s not cut from the same cloth as Mac. I’ve heard a lot about Cutler’s ‘toughness’, but getting hit and getting back up again does not make a man tough. It’s what you do. it’s your job.

        If he was truly, actually tough, then he would have tucked that ball and run it far more than he ever did. think about it. How many times have you seen him stand in there, see nothing on, and then rifle it straight down the middle of the field? What if he had taken the yards given to him on the ground instead? He’d be in the elite class if he did that. Last season he attempted slightly over 2 runs a game. That’s not toughness, that’s not caring about the bottom line.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          i figured Cutler would appeal to you Irish. I mean indiscriminately throwing rockets around not caring who he hits, is kind of right up your alley on people you support.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Fuck off. Idiot.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            lol. come on now that was funny. just a little joke. so chill out.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Saying I support murdering terrorists is not funny. I support no military or para-military organization.

    • SC Dave

      No different that what Martz dialed up for Warner. Except that Kurt was better.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Except he had Orlando Pace at OLT when he was still THE Orlando Pace and Issac Bruce and friends. Not Jamarcus Webb, Johnny Knox and friends.

  • BillW

    The NFL, for all it’s money, continues to be pretty arbitrary in its rules. The PSI in the football has to be between 11 point something and 12 point something. Where did they even come up with that?

    Second, they go from having a common set of footballs to having having each team supply their own. This I’ve read was based on star QBs (Manning?) complaining that they want the football in a different condition than the standard.

    Lastly, it stands to reason that a somewhat deflated football is easier to grasp in bad weather. It equally stands to reason that a QB would want the ball to be easier to grip. And finally it stands to reason that there was no good reason for the lower PSI limit to begin with. So here we are.

    My personal take – and flame me all you want Barb and others – is that arbitrary or not, it’s pretty low class to intentionally break a rule. ESPECIALLY if you don’t need to.

    Kraft to Belichick: On a scale of 1 to 100, how much did the taping help?
    Bill: One.
    Kraft: Then you’re a schmuck.

    • BerwynBomber

      Belichick suggested he had no knowledge of it. Might have been a Brady order. Who knows.

      • BillW

        Kraft to Brady: On a scale of 1 to 100, how much did the deflation help you beat the Colts?
        Tom: One.
        Kraft: Then you’re a schmuck.

        NFL: And suspended

      • SC Dave

        Typical poltroon garbage from Belicheat. Order it, and blame someone else when you get caught.

    • BerwynBomber

      I’m still semi-amazed that NFL officials are part-time employees. Would it really cost the league that much to make them full-time and build a centralized facility where they can drill and study in the off-season or on off days?

      And sorry, the whole “only on Sundays” argument is nonsense. Unless someone is also claiming that football players themselves are part-time athletes.

      Make the refs full-time already. I cannot see how it does not lead to improved officiating.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Profit. Profit. Profit.
        If it made a difference in quarterly earnings, the owners would force the NFL to address it. Until it does, they won’t.

        • CanadaBear

          I thought after the GB/Sea game with the Fail Mary, the NFL would do something to make the officiating better. The NFL hierarchy kinda shit themselves and caved to the refs demands but never did address anything after that. I’m not 100% on full time refs would make much of a difference but at this point I would be OK with it. It would help if they got rid of the lowest rated officials each year and started getting younger. Esp the refs. When teams are running the no-huddle the refs are having a hard time getting the ball spotted in time and getting out of the way.

          • Scott W.

            What do you do with the older, “tenured” refs once they can’t keep up. Early retirement? Create a subdivision of replay refs?

          • CanadaBear

            Give them a choice. Either take another job at the NFL level that doesn’t require them to be so physically active (I have no idea but I’m guessing a linesman doesn’t do that much running around) or it’s been nice working with you. The replay ref is an excellent suggestion.

          • BerwynBomber

            The more someone practices their craft the better they get at it. This could become a reality for NFL officials if they were full-time and had a centralized training/study facility which they attended off-season and even a couple of days on certain weeks between games.

            Of course, there will be still be errors and mistakes. That human element will always exist, but I am convinced that one of the reasons the league’s rules seem so arbitrary is because NFL officiating has so little power.
            It seems all too predictable that NFL would be allowing its star players to use their own balls in games.

    • willbest

      The early reporting was a bit sketchy but this seems to be what has shaken out of the tree.

      No QB likes a new football, they spend hours breaking them in, in a bunch of different manners similar to the way a baseball player breaks in gloves.

      Prior to 2006, the home team provided all the footballs for a game. So that meant they were broken in the way the home team QB liked, filled how they liked, etc. Brady and Manning lobbied and the league agreed to allow the visiting team to bring their own balls.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Braking a non important/arbitrary role doesn’t make you a cheater…. that’s my whole point.

      • BillW

        Really? The speed limit on a certain street in my town is 25. It’s wider than many streets where the limit is 30. So no one goes 25 there. But many get caught. It’s a well known speed trap that catches people that are not from the area. (And a lot of people new to the area.).

        The limit is arbitrary and not important in many peoples opinions minds. But the ticket holds up anyway. Why – because the speed limit IS 25, and that’s breaking the law.

        Once a team is allowed to decide what rules are not important and allowed to break them, integrity suffers.

        • BillW

          In other words, the right thing to do is change the rule. Brady and Manning CORRECTLY argued that having the home team supply ALL the footballs was an unfair advantage.

          My suggestion? Let them inflate the damn ball anyway they want. Why 12.5? Why not 12.4? 11.9? It’s ARBITRARY. That’s what makes it a dumb rule.

          But it IS a rule. CHANGE IT – don’t break it.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            american football break the rules of nature. It’s not a sport humans should be playing. That’s why cheating is sch an integral part of it.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Per history, sometimes you gotta break the dumb rules to get them changed (intentionally or unintentionally).
            This may be one of those epic moments.
            Just kidding – who gives a what?

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          breaking the law doesn’t make you a criminal.

          And if you insist calling that guy a criminal, at least call the drug dealer a criminal.

          Your example is perfect: deflating football = going 30 in 25 speed limit. And based on that you create all this nonsense ?

          • CanadaBear

            That’s exactly my take on people that go nuts about bicyclists on the road. They always bitch about not stopping at stop signs, running red lights, etc. (which they do quite often). However, people in cars routinely do the same thing plus speeding, etc. It’s not a perfect world.

          • BillW

            So let’s ignore the laws we don’t like. And if we get caught, of course the logical defense is “everyone does it”. At which time the judge will certainly say – “well, in THAT case, case dismissed.”

            Bad and arbitrary rules / laws need to be changed, not broken.

          • CanadaBear

            I agree Bill but I can’t change what other people do. I don’t run red lights or stop signs on a bike unless I can’t see any traffic. I stay out of harms way as much as possible. I don’t get on drivers for their law breaking BS as long as it doesn’t harm anyone. I expect the same. Many driver acts like every person on a bike is bike messenger in a major city. Those guys are clinically insane and almost all of them have been hit by a car at least once. I’ve been buzzed within inches at 75 mph, had numerous things thrown at me, run off the road a couple of times and once was smacked on the ass. This doesn’t even scratch the surface of the verbal abuse.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            In your example the NFL is somewhat like a Mumbai busy streetm which I suspect might be an oxymoron.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Redundant. Not an oxymoron.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            copy

          • BillW

            Of course a drug dealer is a criminal. Where the hell did THAT come from???

            I never said Brady was a criminal either. He seems to have broken a rule. He seems to have cheated, Not committed a crime.

            (Again – ??? Exaggerate much trying to ‘deflate’ my point?

            I didn’t say people got ticketed for going 30. People get tickets there going 35 or more assuming it’s a 30 MPH zone like similar streets are. They don’t notice the arbitrary reduction in speed. But it’s a law – rule – whatever and enforceable.

            So people have tried to change it – NOT break it.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            There are lots of proof about PEDs and pain killers regarding certain teams. But they’re not called cheaters…somehow.

            It makes me lose my mind when it happens for some childish, useless shit. Even if it regards breaking one of the many rules.

            I’ve given 2 examples: the field of Soldier Field and tanking for Luck. I’m sure there’s a rule about having a decent field surface and against planing a losing season.

            Maybe the Falcons that have a new HC even if they can’t have a new HC ? Or the 49ers had cops on the payroll that got into the Ray McDonald criminal case ?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Doctors aren’t criminals, and they push drugs for a living.

            People who sell medical marijuana aren’t criminals (although apparently are breaking Federal laws).

          • Irish Sweetness

            “breaking the law doesn’t make you a criminal”
            I believe that’s the very definition, Barb.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Jesus was a criminal.

        • Irish Sweetness

          5 kph times the weight of your vehicle is a huge amount of momentum. If a person is struck by a vehicle travelling at 30 rather than 25 kph, then the difference can literally be life and death.

      • SC Dave

        A truly unbelievably stupid statement. By fucking definition, if you break the rule, you are a cheater.

        You’re a fucking troll, and you’ve had your last feeding from me. Enjoy it, douche.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Cheating is the getting of reward for ability by dishonest means or finding an easy way out of an unpleasant situation. It is generally used for the breaking of rules to gain unfair advantage in a competitive situation. This broad definition will necessarily include acts of bribery, cronyism, sleaze, nepotism and any situation where individuals are given preference using inappropriate criteria.[1] The rules infringed may be explicit, or they may be from an unwritten code of conduct based on morality, ethics or custom, making the identification of cheating a subjective process.

          subjective- based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.

          PS: You’re not the brightest of your family tree are you ?

  • CanadaBear

    Every team in sports cheats in some way or another. It’s like business. They all operate in grey areas if the money is there. It’s a risk/reward equation.

    • BillW

      Agreed. And therefore the risk is getting caught and whatever consequences come from that.

      So the question Tom is asking himself as he prepares for his press conference this afternoon – was the reward worth the risk?

      Given how easily they beat the Colts, the answer is obviously no. So why do it? Good question. Like a rich person shoplifting. A sense of entitlement? Thrill of seeing what they can get away with?

    • SC Dave

      Really? Is that where you’ve descended to, Canada? So you’re fine with the Cheatriots doing their thing?

      I take it you’ll be fine when it lets them beat Chicago in the Super Bowl?

  • GPLDAN

    Scott Zolak, color man for the Pats – think a kind of meathead Jeff Joniak type – was on with Mully (cue the Score-on wah-wah music) and was VERY dismissive of BallGhazi. Said that all QBs have scuffed and defalted the balls 4ever, and that the Colts violated the man-code of the NFL by narking like little bitches.

    They were basically butt-sore that they got so completely whipped and were cry babies about it.

    For my take – I think the QB should get the ball as he wants it. I see it as a non-issue. Stupid shit.

    • BerwynBomber

      Yeah, he’s not biased.

    • BillW

      Yes, I agree. It’s not like a spitter in baseball that causes an unfair advantage. The PSI thing is arbitrary to begin with.

      So the rule should be changed, not ignored or intentionally broken.

      • BerwynBomber

        The fix is simple. Just have the league responsible for providing the game balls rather than the individual teams.

        • BillW

          Used to be that way forever until some diva QBs complained.

          • BillW

            In fact I just saw Brady was the diva.

          • BerwynBomber

            Doesn’t surprise me though I would have guessed Manning if only because he has held so much sway in the league for years. In fact, some argue that the whole reason the league re-calibrated the chuck and DB contact rules the year after Manning got picked three times in that first title game up in Foxboro was because of #18.

          • BillW

            I just read the article on PFT in detail It was both Manning and Brady.

          • BerwynBomber

            Well, there you go.

            Never been a personal fan of either — though respect the hell out of each — so I feel vindicated by your findings. Ha!

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            It was Manning that bitched. It’s known as the Peyton rule.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Which shows you how much actual NFL people give a fuck…they let the opponents provide and care for their own footballs.

      • SC Dave

        Score-on #2. Way to go!

    • Bears-4-Ever

      +1

    • AlbertInTucson

      Zolak is one of those worst kind of Radio Color Men. One of the “gets real excited and cheers/talks OVER the play-by-play guy” types.

      If I were his play-play partner we would have a heart-to-heart chat the first time he did so, something a long the lines of ” Step on my play-by-play again, Scotty, and I will take permanent possession of your mic’s mute switch.”

    • Irish Sweetness

      Soooo …. a Patriots employee has said “nothing to see here” and “…everybody does it ….”.

  • GPLDAN

    Here’s the Score-ON music. If you say you heard something on 670, then this music should link into your post.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Hmmm. I thought that sounded like the new Packer Fight Song…?

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Wait, so Rodgers like his balls over-inflated (cue Olivia Munn joke)…does that mean he’s the narc?

  • GPLDAN

    My mind is unable to un-see that “What Does John Fox” say video. That was bad.

    • CanadaBear

      Thanks. I didn’t watch it for that reason.

  • BearDown100393

    The jobs are less than prestigious when Ted Phillips interferes with football related business.

    • BillW

      As someone else said, Biggsy essentially had a meltdown. The bad poll he cited was his way of telling the McCaskeys and Teddy to get over yourselves – you guys have brought this franchise down far greater than you think. Wanny, Jauron, the Jerry and “Trust Me” Lovie show, and now this. What makes you think others around the NFL respect you? Respect has to be earned.

      And then George and Teddy earned the respect by stepping out of the way finally.

      I love a happy ending!

      • Irish Sweetness

        I imagine most of these guys as alcoholics, certainly Biggsy – he’s already gone down the death-by-eating highway … ergo they write when they’re drunk … and that only works for talented writers of fiction.

  • GPLDAN

    Did Cheesy hang himself in his garage? Come on Cheesy, it’s time to grow the man and know the sun will shine again….

    • BillW

      Sucks to be him right now. Huge meltdown and seeing the Bears act (finally) like a professional franchise.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yep, the Fox/Fangio news coming on the heels of it probably didn’t help.

        • CanadaBear

          To Cheesy’s credit he has written more than once that he wished the Bears were more competitive to make it a real rivalry.

          • BillW

            I like Cheesy. Good Packer fan.

          • CanadaBear

            It took me a long time to warm up to him because of my “don’t feed the trolls policy”. Most of the Packer fans that I know personally are OK. BiQueens and Kitties fans are another matter entirely.

          • Scott W.

            I’ll lift my coffee cup to that, yep.

          • BerwynBomber

            Oh hey, I’m one of those that actually like Cheesy, at least when he is not in complete mock-mode. He often offers pretty solid observations even if they are, at times, uncomfortable truths.

          • Scott W.

            Yeah, I occasionally got hammered for replying to his posts when he first got here (I think you actually threatened my family and slashed my tires – come on, I KNOW it was you), but he is a level-headed fan. I hope he returns soon.

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t remember that but I do have Irish alzheimer’s. The only thing I can remember are my grudges!

          • Scott W.

            Hell, I can’t remember where I left my truck OR my keys on my good days…

          • Irish Sweetness

            Head-banging in one’s heavy metal years, combined with drugs and about 20 years of solid alcohol abuse are not conducive to maintaining one’s memory in a satisfactory state. Here endeth the lesson.

          • AlbertInTucson

            For the record, I did no such hammering. My pleas have always come in the “Do Not Feed” form.

    • BerwynBomber

      The poor guy may have. Do you remember a worse loss in the NFL in recent decades? The only saving grace for Cheesheads is that it didn’t occur in the SB, which of course is scant consolation.

      That was a franchise-haunting collapse. My bet is it affects their play for at least a year. I could see them dropping to 9-7 next year and even Rodgers having an average TD/INT ratio.

      • John Doe

        Fortuitos loss for the Cheese.if there is such a thing. Not sure how Mike McCarthy would have coached in Super Bowl. His brother passed on Monday. At least he can mourn the loss in somewhat normal way rather than in the glare of Super Bowl week.

        • BerwynBomber

          Wow, didn’t know that. Talk about a rough week.

          • BillW

            Only 47. Yes, condolences to him.

          • John Doe

            young dude. Just 47. collapsed in gym.

          • GPLDAN

            Maybe McCarthy could read Trestman’s book to help him

            http://www.amazon.com/Perseverance-Life-Lessons-Leadership-Teamwork/dp/0978780930

          • CanadaBear

            Sold only in Canada!

          • John Doe

            Best review from the link you provided..

            BOOOORRRRIIIINNNNNGGGG!, November 21, 2014

            By

            Jay Cutler

            This review is from: Perseverance: Life Lessons on Leadership and Teamwork (Kindle Edition)

            This book is super boring and the advice is totally lamez. Whatever I’m over it.

          • BerwynBomber

            Hilarious …

          • I asked for that book for my birthday last year. Got it, read it.

            That was right before the season started. Uggh.

          • AlbertInTucson

            47 ?!?! Ouch!

      • Bender McLugh

        a worse loss? Yes. Bears losing to GB in the last game of 2013 and knocked out of playoffs. Much worse. Phuck the pack.

        • SC Dave

          Shit… zero perspective. The loss in the NFC Championship at home was far worse. That was some pissant regular season game by two teams there were not going to advance. A lot different than playing to get to the fucking Super Bowl.

    • CanadaBear

      I’m pretty sure most Fudgie fans are cooling their heels away from the internet. What a gut punch. I’m actually surprised he hasn’t come back yet.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Nothing says “Troll” like THAT type of behavior, no?

      • Irish Sweetness

        I don’t get all the hype over the game. The Pack lost to a better team in a close one. Great stuff. Everyone seems to be pointing out who’s fault it was instead of saying “great game!”.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Maybe the lame cunt finally realized that ‘the best GM in the world of sports’ has the same number of Super Bowl appearances as Jerry Angelo after 9 years on the job…while having Farve and Rodgers at the helm.

      • BillW

        Though Ted’s SB was a victory while Jerry’s was a loss. I’d rather a SB victory myself. But maybe to you a loss and a win are the same.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Yeah… the GM gets you there. He can’t win it for you. I don’t judge a GM for SB wins, but for SB appearances.

          Plus… Eli Manning has 2, Flacco has 1 in that span. Rodgers is 10 times better…he’s truly elite..he’s the best of the best.

          • BillW

            Oh I agree there. Let’s just leave Jerry out of it, since that weakens your very valid point.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            yeah… I probably should.

          • BerwynBomber

            Well, “10 times better” is obviously an overstatement but point taken.

            Btw, Flacco might be nearing the point of being in that next tier right outside elite. He had a very good year in ’14 and finished solidly in the top ten in both QR and QBR. Oddly enough, Eli had a decent year too statistically despite the Giants’ otherwise poor play.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            They are momentum QBs that would never in their careers win without elite Defenses. They’re also lucky or good enough to be lucky.

            I’m not bashing Manning or Flacco. I’m saying their GMs are better than Rodgers.

          • BerwynBomber

            Wouldn’t disagree about the GM argument. Frankly, I’m not sold on GB HC McCarthy being more than solid, slightly above average. They seem to be squandering Rodgers’ career a bit up there.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Id ont’ think he’s the Top. but he does have a Super Bowl and his Offense is pretty tough to stop. He seems the best of that bunch.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Again, R-berger passed for more yards than all of them and had a huge TD-INT differential (22). His QBR was 103, ten points higher than either Eli or Flacco. Never gets mentioned. I don’t like the guy, but he’s as good as any of them.

        • Irish Sweetness

          We were never in a position to win that game, Jerry wasn’t close.

          1. Our Quarterback was shit. He was born shit.

          2. We didn’t have anyone to step in for Tommie.

          3. We didn’t have anyone to step in for MB.

          When the packers won the SB they were decimated by injuries. They didn’t bitch and moan saying “we lost such and such other than that we could compete.”

          We might have been in the superbowl, but we were never at the races. Not even with the The Greatest Choker of All Time trying to hand us the game.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Trolls usually have a really good excuse for conveniently disappearing at times like this.

      “The dog ate my Ipad / Tablet / PC / Mac.”

      is a popular one as is

      “It took me longer than expected to rearrange my sock drawer.”

  • BerwynBomber

    So Gym Shorts has yet to land a job? Guy’s a tool but as a DC he seems top-notch. Surprised no one grabbed him.

    • CanadaBear

      I can’t disagree but that Buffalo D is loaded with talent. I’m thrilled we got Fangio but if we missed out on him I would have been OK with Gym Shorts.

      • EnderWiggin

        I’d have been OK with Shorts. Although I did lose some respect (not that I had any) when he had the Bills D carry him off the field after the Lions game.

        • CanadaBear

          That was unbelievably lame but not surprising.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      he’ll surely end up somewhere.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        in the drive-through of a Wendy’s, nekkid, and eating beans out of a can.
        That’s my guess.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          that comes from ‘we deserved Mel Tucker’ bag ?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            It’s a “none of the above” bag. You reach in, and it’s full of poo.

  • BillW

    On PFT Blount is quoted as saying “I didn’t notice anything different about the ball”.

    Nice going. Since it’s no longer a question of IF the ball was under-inflated, but how it got that way. Blount’s comment can be interpreted as saying the ball was under inflated in EVERY game they played. Including a narrow playoff victory over the Ravens.

    (Don’t worry Raven fans. I’m sure Marc Trestman will grow your balls for next year.)

    To be clear, Barb. I don’t think any fines, suspensions, etc should come from this. I’m just too lamely goody goody to be OK with intentionally breaking a rule, whether it’s a good one or not.

    As Boss Tweed said in Gangs of New York –
    “The appearance of the law must be maintained, especially when it’s being broken.”

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      somebody call Godel.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      You might be slightly obsessing about this.

      • BillW

        Yep. Back on my meds. Sorry guys. I prolly wrecked any chance of an mb return anytime soon.

  • Bender McLugh
  • Ha. Just connected the dots. Barb is Cartman!

    • GPLDAN

      Some great lines in there.

      When caught cheating, react as all white guys do: I misinterpreted the rules!

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I never break my own rules.

      • define “is” – Clinton.

      • SC Dave

        “He even got caught cheating, and nobody cares!”. Certainly not the Barbs of the word.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      who ?

  • BillW

    So Brady said in his presser that he didn’t adjust the air pressure in the balls. So that ends the controversy.

    Oh wait – did he tell the equipment guys to do that? Apparently no one asked that.

    Brady did say the equipment guys do a great job preparing the balls the way he likes them.

    He also said he always tries to play by the rules.

    (“Tries?” Insert Yoda quote on the subject here.)

    Said he didn’t notice anything. Really? Brady said a few years ago he prefers the ball light. And the reports clearly say all the balls were tested at halftime, 11 of 12 under by 2 psi; all those replaced. And they didn’t’ tell the Pats? And Brady didn’t’ notice that?

    Like with Nixon, it’s more the coverup than the crime.

    I’m beginning to think when they get caught in their lies, the Patriots will be punished in some way (next season).

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      You’re really getting passionate about this. So much information, so many questions and mysteries. Nice to see you’re not busy with more important stuff like watering you flowers or studying Trestaman’s Offense.

      • Trac

        Thank you Barb. You finally noticed. Do me a favor and slap him for me would ya.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          In Romania, that’s a marriage proposal.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            that’s free speech.

  • BillW

    League hasn’t even questioned Brady. Four days later. In an investigation they said yesterday would be wrapped up in 2 or 3 days.

    And the league won’t comment on why they haven’t talked to or even scheduled a conversation with the guy who handled the Patriot’s footballs on every snap.

    OK – I’m done. Seriously. We all can figure out what’s going on here. You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind’s blowing.

    • GPLDAN

      Just like Bob Dylan said.

      • BillW

        Thanks for getting the reference.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Bears Blog: “What happens if Brady comes out and says, “I had balls deflated slightly to my normal specs. Unfortunately it seems I went overboard.”

    Yeah, right. Like THAT’S ever gonna happen.

    • AlbertInTucson

      And WHAT would Gisele think about Tommy playing with Deflated Balls?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Moreover, wouldn’t Gisele be the FIRST to know if his balls were deflated…?

        • CanadaBear

          Maybe not!

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Her fingerprints are all over this.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    That was a strange press conference….about under-inflated balls….seriously did they really need to do this?

  • BerwynBomber

    Interesting that Belichick revealed some of the Pats state secrets about what type of footballs they use in practice. I would assume other HCs would operate under the same theory but once again shows the ‘chick thinks of EVERYTHING.

    Having said that, unlike Spygate this sounds more like Brady conspiracy than a Belichick one.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      should have just used PEDs.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Has Green Bay re-opened yet or is the official mourning period still in effect?

    • I like them quiet. We won’t hear from them for a long time. Except for Cheesy. He’ll show up like herpes.

    • Trac

      I’d much rather beat their ass’s than gloat. It’s humiliating to have to rely on pleasure from their misfortune. On second thought…….hahahaha

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      They’ve opened up strong… the ST coordinator will be shipped. Their Teddy is covering his tracks.

  • Trac

    The king is dead….the king is dead

    Was it the low oil prices? Hee hee

    • EnderWiggin

      I hate to get all “Irish”y on ya, but he is my guess on the main mastermind behind 911.

  • Oh baby Jebus, 8pound 6oz infant Jesus, let this be true…

    “A lot of change has already happened in San Francisco and more could be coming. Sources say that star linebacker Patrick Willis could be shopped to other teams in a trade and also could end up being a cap casualty.
    Willis missed the final 10 games of the 2014 season with a toe injury. The 49ers feel they have a younger and much cheaper replacement ready to take his place with Chris Borland. With NaVorro Bowman coming back,
    Willis could be deemed too expensive for a team that is tight against the cap. ” – WalterFootball

    http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2015rumors3.php

    • Obviously, the Fangio connection is there, but my only concern would be if Willis has a degenerative turf toe inj, or if it’s another type of short term injury.

      • CanadaBear

        At least the turf at Soldier Field would be better for that toe than an artificial surface. Gotta think positive.

        • Worst case scenario, Willis can use the rebar sticking out to bash a RBs knee.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            I believe it was a broken sprinkler head that protruded out that was a sharp spike, but nonetheless the same end result!

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Turf toe is a bitch. That does worry me…

  • GPLDAN
    • SC Dave

      That picture is hilarious.

  • Just saw the Brady presser.
    HOLY CRAP. I’m no FBI body language expert, but that dude looked like he was lying through his teeth.
    So, Billichick denied it. Brady denied it.
    We’re seriously expected to believe some lowly ball boy went rogue? Seriously.

    Here’s a link I found that is probably gonna get pulled down.

    • BearDown100393

      Remember Tom Brady, when appearing before the Congressional hearing over your deflated balls, the catch phrase is “I misremember”.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        ” Congressional hearing over your deflated balls”.

        baffling, but not out of the realm of possibilities.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Major League Baseball beat us to it.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            bis

    • John Doe

      He tried to be too flippant about it with “this is not ISIS, nobody is dying here” line.

      What is a little cheating in football. You should just focus on ISIS.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        “Four days after the AFC Championship Game, the question of whether the Patriots illegally deflated footballs is still the ***most talked-about story in America***. In fact, all three broadcast networks led their evening newscasts with the story.”

        The NBC Nightly News, CBS Evening News, ABC World News Tonight

        And there you have it… all you need to know.

    • BerwynBomber

      Yes, oddly I found the ‘chick more convincing than I did Brady, which I would not have expected if predicting yesterday.

  • WP4Life

    I just watched from the NFL Network station a football life Don Shula. What a stud.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Wasn’t it? two losing seasons from 33. Still has about 120 wins more than the hoodie. Did you like the comparisons you can draw with Belicheat re cheating? The Raiders game where the guy finds the Raiders gameplan and gives it to an asst coach to give to Shula? Shula tells the coach to throw it away. Integrity. With integrity it’s quite possible Belicheat doesn’t have a Lombardi.

      • WP4Life

        Yes, he only 2 losing seasons out of 33 years, incredible. In human terms you can’t compare billacheat and Shula, billacheats is a smuck and Shula is an icon. If Shulas most career wins gets broken I hope it’s not billacheat someday.

      • SC Dave

        This.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Way to go on Marshall and Brady, Jefe. Well said.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    For a little throwback history of da blog…and where us old fogies hearken back to.

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2007-01-29/business/0701290117_1_movable-type-writing-fans

    • BillW

      Many thanks for posting this. I’m sure Jeff appreciates it. . I discovered the blog back in that super bowl year. I may have had a slightly different screen name

      I remember this article well too.

      Hard to believe that’s 8 years ago already

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        No kidding. I wish Noah would do a throwback thursday re-skin of the site.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          you can find the original site via the wayback machine.
          That comment format was so stream-of-consciousness and glorious. Like being in a very loud bar.

          • Scott W.

            So I remembered correctly…you were on the first site Jeff put up, Mike?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Correct, sir.

          • Scott W.

            I remember finding the site one night, after a long day of work, and being impressed as hell with how positive everyone was. There were criticisms galore, but none of the “Fuck you” crap that littered so many forum/blog attempts.

            The other thing I remember was that Viva’s was the first comment I read after the article. No idea why I remember that, except the nic was unique.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I told somebody to fuck off on this very blog this very day. I became that guy. They deserved it though.

          • EnderWiggin

            I miss it, and would like to see a throwback. But you have to admit – This site just blows the Chicago Now site away.

          • Scott W.

            Uhm, yeah. Sorta. smh…

            Chicago Now was where Jeff went to make some money for all of this. We suffered mightily on his behalf. We should all get free Happy Meals or something for hanging in.

    • WP4Life

      Thank for the nice read. Btw is Alex goldgayn still around?

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        I wonder what name he posts under.

    • Scott W.

      Hilarious…I was 10 seconds from posting that exact link.

    • Ososfan

      That’s dope, MBHAP! I’m here in Jersey too, surrounded by asshole Giants and jets fans, good to know I am of the minority of bears fans in NJ like Jeff.

    • Irish Sweetness

      “In response, his readers left 69 comments, writing directly to Hughes and, interestingly, to each other.”

      People talking to each other in a comments section. Imagine. This ‘blogging’ thing might catch on.

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