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Audibles From the Long Snapper: Around the League We Go!

| December 22nd, 2015

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Around the League We Go!

(1) Rex Ryan has many flaws as a head coach but he’d never lost his locker room until this season. His defense has quit on him and that side of the roster is going to see massive turnaround this off-season. Rex took the best collection of pass rushers in the sport and neutered them.

(2) Odell Beckham Jr. is an asshole but I love the people criticizing Tom Coughlin for not benching him. Coughlin is coaching for his playoff life and you want him to bench his best player? There’s a time to seize the moral high ground. Sunday wasn’t it.

(3) When faced with the prospect of a playoff spot, the Bucs & Bears faded. But I’d be surprised if both teams aren’t fighting for playoff berths a year from now. They both need very specific personnel upgrades.

(4) Does any player so consistently and obviously kill his coaches more than Aaron Rodgers? It seems to happen every week now. “We don’t have a clear cut direction”? The week after the head coach takes over the play calling?

(5) Doesn’t it seem like EVERYBODY on the Cardinals roster makes plays? Their receivers dive for every single ball. When’s the last time a Bears receiver dove for something?

(6) Somebody tell NBC we don’t need the “seconds between plays” clock for the Eagles anymore. Nobody cares how fast you run plays if you’re a shitty offense running shitty plays.

(7) If you’re going by offensive performance, I don’t see how Adam Gase isn’t behind Hue Jackson, Josh McDaniels, Mike Shula and even Todd Haley on the head coaching pecking order. (Haley is the architect of the league’s most dynamic and exciting unit: the Steelers offense.)

(8) Honestly had no idea Brandon Weeden was on the Texans. And I can’t imagine the folks in charge of Indianapolis can survive losing the division, at home, to him.

(9) Minnesota and Green Bay are going to play in the wild card round. So how much value will they place in a possible week seventeen match up for the division title? Will home field for that game be enough of a motivating factor?

(10) Say the Chiefs stay in the 5th slot. Then say they win easily in Houston (which they will). Then say they head to Cincinnati. You’re telling me they can’t win that game? And doesn’t everyone think Pittsburgh is as good as New England? I’m calling it: Pittsburgh at Kansas City for the AFC Championship Game.

Yes, I’m quite excited for this postseason. Can’t remember a year where I thought as many as 9 teams can win it all.

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  • Johnnywad

    Can we just start next year now?

  • The Yes Guy

    Yes.

  • It’s crazy to think how far the Chiefs have come since losing to Chicago as part of a terrible start to this year.

    • Anonymous

      Agreed. Alex Smith is having a quietly good year and they turned their season around after losing Charles for the year.
      But like Cincy, I don’t know if anyone will believe in them come playoff time.

      • Irish Sweetness

        They have a good OL – people always overlook that and blow the QB or WRs or RB. It’s always the line.

    • AlbertInTucson

      They got better as soon as Jamaal Charles stopped turning the ball over.

      It’s unfortunate that that came about because Charles went on IR but the two events are not coincidental.

      • Another theory goes that once Charles went down, Alex Smith stopped checking down as much and actually began throwing to his WRs.
        Havnt checked the stats on that but interesting theory nonetheless

        • AlbertInTucson

          Makes sense. Maclin had pretty much been MIA prior to that.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Charles had the highest average YPC of anyone in the NFL. Ever. He was up to like 6.0 I think.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Yes, but his turnovers WERE killing them this year

    • Martin Bell

      Green Bay too. A losing game against the Bears is like a vaccination against games really poorly played against a loser.

  • Rodgers is very good at deflecting blame to everybody around him in the media, both through his comments and things that get leaked from his people but don’t come directly from him, but nobody blames him for it because he’s Aaron Rodgers. If any QB not named Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady did that, they would be skewered for it.

    • CanadaBear

      Brady will never get criticized because he’s possibly the GOAT. Rodgers is getting a pass because he’s in cheez whiz country. If he was in NY, Chi, Philly, someone would be taking him to task about the blame game.

      • Sactowns#1

        Also because he’s a wholesome looking white boy.

        • TBC

          75% of NFL QBs are “wholesome looking white boys”. And Rodgers wouldn’t even crack the top 5 of QBs who best fit that description.

          • Sactowns#1

            Seriously!? Who the hell would?
            #1- Brady
            #2- Rodgers
            #3- Alex Smith
            #4 – Matt Ryan (he’s got dark eyes. got something in there somewhere)
            #5- Carson Palmer (soulless ginger)
            #6- Jay Cutler (resting douche face)
            #7- Matt Cassel (Handlebar mustache looks dangerous!)
            #8- Brian Hoyer (shaved head. Prob in a gang)
            #9- Derrick Carr (wrist tattoo. Pirate or sailor?)
            #10- The Manning Brothers (can people still say mongoloid?)
            Omitted- Drew Brees (both parents are lawyers, prob a Jew)
            Matt Stafford (Jim Henson told us Muppets do not have a race or sexuality) Ryan Fitzpatrick (Looks part wookie)

        • CanadaBear

          Certainly works for Brady!

    • TBC

      This comment has 6 likes and counting already. LOL.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, it’s silly and incredibly obvious. As was Blogfather’s comment.

      • I have tremendous respect for Rodgers. Until very recently, I would have said he’s the best QB in the NFL and has a chance to be the best in NFL history. Now I’m leaning more towards Brady, but Rodgers is still right there.

        He also seems like a genuinely nice guy who would be fun to root for. I’d love to have him as Chicago’s QB.

        But there’s really no denying he’s been a whiner to the media this year.

        • That Guy

          Aaron Rodgers and Jay Cutler both struggle at the podium. Rodgers just has a different narrative to struggle with.

          Cutler’s media is stuck on the “we suck because you suck” story so the good gets ignored and the bad is clear mandate for a total rebuild.

          Rodger’s media is stuck on the “we’re amazing because you’re amazing” story so the good gets heaped on him deservedly or not and the bad stuff gets turned into a “the sky is falling” line.

          • Anonymous

            Way too much is made out of most dudes pressers, including Rodgers and Cutlers.

        • TBC

          THIS year? He’s a crybaby bitch. Always has been.

          I don’t really perceive it as deflecting as much. I think he’s just very honest with his frustration. He’s always spoken very highly of McCarthy and gives him a ton of credit for success.

          The dude is really sensitive. He’s a different kind of egomaniac than Deion sanders, but he’s still kind of an egomaniac. And sometimes he just can’t help but speak his mind (through subtle comments and sarcasm) even when it would behoove him to shut it.

          In my opinion he is a very interesting guy with a unique football mind and he is very cultured and socially conscious for a football player.

          But he is also a whiney, annoying dbag on the surface.

          I wouldn’t describe him as someone who tried to throw his coaches or teammates under the bus though. I can see where one might get that impression, but that just means you’re not watching close enough.

          • Cormonster

            Cultured and socially conscious? That sounds like Marxist gobbledygook.

          • Hey, Wisc owns the Pack, remember!

          • Cormonster

            Actually the fans do, as some of my Uncles who are part “owners” like to remind me.

        • Sactowns#1

          Hate to say it but right now Rodgers is statistically the GOAT.

          • WP34

            Rings?

          • Sactowns#1

            By statistically I meant by most meaningful measurable statistics for an individual player (comp%, ints vs TDs, QBR, MVP) but no, he does not lead in every single measurable category.

          • WP34

            Poll the players…most meaningful measurable statistics for an individual player…Rings

          • Sactowns#1

            Yeah you’re right. Barry Sanders was crap.

          • WP34

            Ask Barry.

            Dude its ok we disagree.

          • SC Dave

            Otto graham

        • Irish Sweetness

          Isn’t Ben outplaying both of those dudes right now? Never gets the love. Because of … the … thing.

  • Couldn’t agree more on the Cardinals, Jeff. They and NE are the best-coached teams in the NFL, and there’s a significant dropoff after that, IMO.

    • DaCoaches Mustache

      Bruce Arians should be coaching the Bears right now. What a monumentally stupid move hiring Tresticle over him. I watched the A Football Life on Arian’s last night and holy shit would the Bears be in better shape if they got that hire right.

      • CanadaBear

        Every time I think about Nessman getting the job over Arians I want to punch PE right in his granny glasses. I get missing in the draft, it happens. The reigning NFL coach of the year in your office looking for a job and you turn him down for Nessman, can’t happen (and stay employed).

        • I was talking to somebody elsewhere today about how bad Emery screwed them at LB too.
          Do you realize he spent a 1st, 2nd, and 4th round pick on non-rush LBs in only 3 drafts? Given how little hoopla is spent on those players in today’s NFL, that should net you at least 2 plus starters.
          It netted the Bears a 6th round pick and… yeah.

          • CanadaBear

            I SO realize JW. I was one of the first on here to bitch about PE. I know I bitched to the point where it becomes annoying but that guy was horrible. Has he gotten another job in the NFL?

          • DaMurph

            That was the inaugural and only DBB draft party. The pick drew a collective “what the fuck?”

          • CanadaBear

            He killed an annual event. That PE really is a dick! I don’t know anything about college players other than what I read leading up to the draft and on here. Not once did I ever hear Shea’s name. Afterward’s I was reading some pre-draft hooey about him and even that seemed pretty lukewarm.

        • DaMurph

          It happens when you take a guy slotted to go in that spot, a consensus #19 pick, not a guy many have graded a second round pick. You try gettin cute to make yourself look like a genius, you end up getting fucked!

        • DaMurph

          Before the draft Mayock said ” he has 5th round value” Right now that seems about right!

      • Sactowns#1

        No no no. Remember, coaching has nothing to do with our record this year.

      • SC Dave

        I doubt it. We would still have Emery.

  • The Texans signed Brandon Weeden off waivers on November 19, one day after Dallas cut him. It understandably didn’t get much hoopla.

  • Couldn’t agree more on the Eagles either. Chip Kelly is a buffoon. Ran a ton of really good players out of town because he thought his system was so good it didn’t need the talent.

    Turns out he was wrong. Shocking, right? No system in football history can trump talent.

    Everybody focuses on the skill position players lost (DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, LeSean McCoy), and that’s surely had an impact, but people overlook the OL dropoff. They had the best OL in football in 2013, but it’s not very good anymore, and his system (like any) gets destroyed if you lose the line of scrimmage. He ran two very good guards out of town.

    Not to mention Kelly gave up a 2nd round pick for Sam Bradford. I don’t care about the QB swap of Foles/Bradford, what was dumb was throwing in a high draft pick for an oft-injured QB who’s been downright bad when healthy in his career. Surprise, surprise, he’s been downright bad in Philadelphia, and has gotten hurt to boot. This is my shocked face.

    • I should note that, to be fair to Kelly, he is an excellent Xs and Os coach. Seems to be struggling at other stuff though, especially the GM part of his job. Also has rubbed many players the wrong way.

      • Anonymous

        Kelly is salvageable as an NFL HC. You just don’t want give him GM-like control. In fact, you don’t want to do that with anyone outside of Belichick.

        • Even Belichick screwed up regularly as a GM for a long time. The one thing he did really well was master draft-day trades to get more value from his picks, but he drafted horribly for many years.

          • Anonymous

            Valid point. Could be that Belichick’s genius as talent developer covers up his flaws as talent assessor.

  • Watching CIN choke in the playoffs-again-to one of the really good AFC Wildcard teams is going to be fun.

  • Scharfinator

    I loved and agree with 6/7 whole heartedly.

    • CanadaBear

      #6 made me laugh. I rarely see Philly so I was surprised by that stupid timer. #2 is a good point. ODB was really a bitch the other day but if the refs can’t control the game it’s not on Coughlin to do their job.

      • Scharfinator

        Yeah, Coughlin was quoted along the lines of “I wanted to win” in regards to keeping him in.

        That’s some old man, don’t give a fuck, on the way out, honesty that the other coaches won’t say.

        • CanadaBear

          I really like Coughlin. I saw a clip of him during the stretching drills in training camp teasing a few different players. Funny as hell. You could tell the players really liked him.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    “When’s the last time a Bears receiver dove for something?” If they did they would probably break a nail and leave the game because of injury.

    • Cutler dove to make a tackle in week 2 after an INT… and was out for the next 1.5 games with a hamstring injury.

  • TBC

    (9) Minnesota and Green Bay are going to play in the wild card round. So how much value will they place in a possible week seventeen match up for the division title? Will home field for that game be enough of a motivating factor?

    Barring a packers win (yeah right) and a Vikes loss this weekend, Green Bay will have a chance to knock out all 3 rivals in a week 17 division championship game in consecutive years, which would be pretty fucking epic. There’s no way that’s ever been done before. Does that give them added motivation?? I don’t know, but it definitely makes the fans want it more.

    I’m pretty sure McCarthy really wants the division and really wants that home game. They make it a priority every year (or they say they do at least).

    • I have $50 riding on it. I bet a friend before the year that GB would win the division. He said Bears would, DET or MIN was a draw.
      I loved that bet from the start. Good chance at $50 with basically no chance of losing.

      • Cubsnlinux

        “He said Bears would” …Is your friend Ted Phillips?

        • nope, just a guy who goes into the start of the season having drunk too much offseason Kool Aid. Really smart football/Bears fan, just takes a couple weeks to knock him into in-season reality/analysis mode after 6 months of hype.

      • TBC

        Can I have your friends number? I have some enticing wagers. And a bridge to sell him.

      • Irish Sweetness

        He could have gotten what, 8/1 on the Bears? Your bet should have been odds on.

        BTW – you bet against the Bears man ….

  • Anonymous

    (7) If you’re going by offensive performance, I don’t see how Adam Gase isn’t behind Hue Jackson, Josh McDaniels, Mike Shula and even Todd Haley on the head coaching pecking order. (Haley is the architect of the league’s most dynamic and exciting unit: the Steelers offense.)

    But in regard to Gase this year, they won’t go by that. Instead, they will go by the transformation of Cutler, though I do think the Bears overall record could scare a few teams off Gase.

    Btw, Haley bombed in his one HC stint and even his OC run at PITT has not been a bed of roses. He and R-berger clashed frequently early on, and the first few years the PITT O under Haley were hardly worldbeaters. Shlua’s story, IIRC, is similar.

    • That Guy

      Todd Haley coached an extremely dysfunctional Kansas City Chiefs team. The head of scouting for that organization? Phil Emery.

      Lance Briggs mentioned a story about Trestman freaking out over which recycling bin something got put in. I heard the same kind of story about Haley freaking out over a candy rapper not getting thrown out in Kansas City.

      I thought Emery had a good reputation in the league in spite of Haley, but I was wrong. Haley and Emery are both talented, but they both suffer from the same control freak stuff. It killed Kansas City and it killed Chicago.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Emery is talented? I’ve got to hear this. Okay, I’m strapped in …. GO!

    • Irish Sweetness

      Ben Rothlisberger is the architect. Show me an OC who was a great offense and a shitty QB.
      (Maybe the Chiefs squeak in there)

  • CanadaBear

    I know I’m a broken record on this subject but I had to laugh at Dickerson on ESPN. His affection (ahem) for Cutler has now gotten to the point where he listed the garbage time yds from Sunday. I hope ESPN fires this douchebag and hires a decent reporter.

    • The GP

      don’t hold your breath.

      this is a company that fired Bill SImmons and shut Grantland down. It gives 2 fucks about journalism.

      • MB30SD
      • Anonymous

        Yeah, but Grantland was apparently a money pit. And Simmons’ Brady-fueled Goodell hate got old as quickly as a two-pack a day whore in a major port. Plus, Simmons started to think he was bigger than his employer. Never a good idea.

        • The GP

          Name me a current ESPN writer you think deserves any sort of writing or journalism award. Name one.

          • Anonymous

            Oh, I am not crazy about ESPN. I am only saying that a) Grantland never made them money, and b) Simmons’ ego was enormous.

          • CanadaBear

            Not sure about Grantland’s bottom line but no doubt Simmons has an enormous ego. I stopped reading him years ago because of it.

          • Anonymous

            He is a tremendous sportswriter, IMV, and a true original, but once he lost his marbles in defense of Brady over Deflategate, I pulled the plug too. And btw, I’m no fan of Goodell — and in fact, thought he was a royal fuck-up for many years — but Simmons’ NE -bias finally wore too thin.

          • CanadaBear

            A long time ago I used to howl over his WWF columns. At some point he started taking himself too seriously and I gave up. No doubt he is talented.

          • Irish Sweetness

            But guys like Studs Terkel aren’t around anymore. We live in a post-literate society, we really do. The ability to write well is being lost. The standards of everything are dropping. Idiocracy is coming.

          • Trac

            I’ll broaden the scope of that question. Name one Journalist period that deserves an award.

          • The GP
          • The GP
          • That Guy

            Keeping the reporting more on the field, I think Matt Bowen deserves a lot of recognition for what he’s done helping casual fans understand the route tree. I don’t know that he’s writing for a Pulitzer, but I read a lot of what he writes and I feel smarter every time.

            And frankly, I don’t want to read about murder and abuse when I watch sports. Sports is my release from that stuff.

          • The GP

            In that case Bowen is your guy. He took Bleacher Report, which sucked and was the butt of blog jokes and turned the football analysis reporting around there. Made it up there with the flashes of analysis you used to see on Inside the NFL on HBO.

            Inside has moved to Showtime now, so I don’t watch it. I hear it sucks and the analysis has been reduced to watching Marshall wear smart people glasses and talk shit about game strategy.

          • The GP

            Also, it’s a shame “Guys” like you don’t read the above links. It’s what keeps the status quo in place.

          • That Guy

            I do, but I don’t like it that a sports reporter feels like he has to talk about something other than the actual game of football to win an award. Also sucks that its all so negative.

            Another good example: I really enjoyed reading about “Money Ball” and everything that went with that. And not just for the statistics; also for the culture change involved in managing teams differently. Fascinating stuff.

          • Trac

            Jeff Pearlman is the kinda journalist I can appreciate. I think writing about the ugly truth that people don’t want to hear about their idols is about as real as it gets when it comes to journalism.

            http://www.jeffpearlman.com/a-journalist-at-the-wrong-time/

            http://www.barnesandnoble.com/mobile/w/sweetness-jeff-pearlman/1100398649

          • Irish Sweetness

            Gurdjieff, in the first chapter of ‘Meetings With Remarkable Men’, would agree with you. The best hatchet job on journalism I’ve ever, or will ever read.

          • Trac

            That dude reminds me of Dr. Strangelove for some reason. Hmm.

          • When Seifert wrote for the nfc blog, he was pretty good. Dunno if he’s still at espn tho

  • MB30SD
    • Anonymous

      Sweet move.

      Wonder if DET gives Caldwell another year. Late season competency and a first year playoff berth might buy it for him.

      • MB30SD

        it would be perfectly Lions of them to do so. Caldwell is lovie’s illegitimate older brother… and they are both dogshit.

        • That’s part of the reason I’m actually cheering for the Loins, for once (including vs us).

          They slip down the draft, keep Caldwell, another 6 win season.

          Rinse.Wash.Repeat.

  • The GP

    Can we just pretend the last two Bears games are not happening and move right to playoff threads?

    • MB30SD

      naw, football maings.

      Going to suck without football for a while.

      • The GP

        Steelers and Broncos – WC.

        I think the Steelers are rolling with The Rapist and Antonio Brown. Osweiler has showed nothing, and I don’t see them making post season noise. Pitt goes into Denver and punks them.

        Chiefs at Texans – WC. Wow. Who cares. Talk about a team that has underperformed, the Texans should be the NFL’s #1 D.

        Vikes at Packers – The Pack. Because you know, the blog curse of TBC will win out and continue to haunt us.

        Seahawks at Skins – Best matchup of the WC round. I expect a very physical game with the Hawks winning out.

        • MB30SD

          fuck the packers GP, fuck ’em right in rodger’s dopey looking bug-eyed face.

          • The GP

            I haven’t seen a kiss this forced since Tom Cruise tried to fuck Nicole in Eyes Wide Shut.

            http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/14/article-2657658-1EBFCF3D00000578-290_636x382.jpg

          • CanadaBear

            No doubt they are “beards”for each other. Hollywood doesn’t want a hot woman carpet munching when they are trying to sell her as a vixen and the NFL doesn’t want one of their star attractions puffing peters.

            Did you ever hear the story about Harvey Keitel getting fired from Eyes Wide Shut? I have no idea if this is true but it should be. I read, in one of the scenes Nicole was naked and and there was a ring of guys around her pounding their puds. Apparently Harvey shot a load right past her. I guess that wasn’t appreciated and Kubrick fired Harvey. Gotta admit she looked fine in that movie. I liked the part of the movie where everyone wants to fuck Cruise, male and female. That movie should have been great but it’s only notable for all the nudity.

          • The GP

            Harvey went Bad Lieutenant and shot a wad at Nicole? I had not heard that story.

            You should have Irish tell you the story of how the Illuminati killed Stanley because the film showed how their parties go.

          • CanadaBear

            Bad Lieutenant!!!!!!!! A fave. Love the way it starts. If the story is true, notice how Tom didn’t come to her rescue. Either he had the hots for Harvey or he was afraid Harvey would mop the floor with him.

          • MB30SD

            both most likely.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He showed Warner Bros. execs the final cut. He was dead three days later.

            Funny though, it’s GP who posts all the surveillance stuff …. eh?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Every Kubrick movie is great. He was playing a different fucking sport.

            That party was filmed in Nathan Rothschild’s mansion outside London yo. Stanley has been to those parties.

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Every Kubrick movie is great.”

            Eyes Wide Shut is absolutely pointless.

          • That Guy

            I saw Eyes Wide Shut and didn’t care about a single thing that happened in the film.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Eyes wide shut is the best way to watch that film. What a snorer.

          • MB30SD

            it’s ok to be gay now tom, really it is.

          • CanadaBear

            He’s not coming out until Travolta comes out.

          • MB30SD

            they’ve been married for years, watch (NTTAWWT)

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            not in scientology.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Who are they?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Were Brangelina a thing when Kubrick was doing EWS. They would have been better. Her new movie is pretty much that vibe.

        • Anonymous

          I’ll watch Chiefs/Texans. Texans for Watt only (kinda like watching bad NO teams for Brees only), and the Chiefs to see if they could actually be dangerous and advance.

          Vikes/Pack playoff game could be very competitive. Cheese have struggled for half the season now and Zimmer’s got something brewing in purple country.

        • Peyton might be back though. Although he has fallen from grace, can’t rule out that he was injured the entire time. If Peyton has one last hurrah, plus that D, it should make it more interesting.
          However, their lack of run game might end up dooming them.

          The Texans D has rounded out in the 2nd half of the season.

          It’s hard on any D to maintain dominance when the O has 3 different QBs and can’t chew up some of the clock.

          I think the Vikes will take the Pack out (as long as AP is healthy). They have the formula. A strong rush to gobble of TOP and leave Rodgers and his subpar WRs cold on the bench. Home field advantage will likely determine the winner here though.

          Been saying it all season, the Skins will likely win the division. Their D is opportunistic, and their O is becoming more potent. They have a devastating 1-2 punch at HB, and Cousins has the highest completion % in the NFL right now, I think.

          As long as Cousins cuts out his Cuttyesque INTs, they’ll be in every game.

          However, Wilson is playing out of his mind right now, and I don’t see how ANY D can contain him.

          • Irish Sweetness

            The Skins are good at home. One and done in the playoffs though yo.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Pittsburgh in the superbowl yo.

    • BearDown100393

      The Bears seem to agree with you.

  • willbest

    I guess win the division pride isn’t on the list of things GB and Vikings should play for? I guess they might want to lose next year to avoid playing Carolina and Arizona? Then again if GB wins this week against Arizona, and Seattle beats them in week 17, then GB would be playing for a first round bye.

    • MB30SD

      monkeys outta my butt hopefully will

    • DaBearsBlog

      What good is winning the division if you lose the following week?

      • willbest

        Winning a division is a mark of pride for the players and the fans, and probably the ownership, even if it might tactically be better to not.

        Plus if you lose on WC weekend as a visitor having rested your starters the week before, the fans will be unhappy indefinitely. Whereas they will get over an injured player trying to secure home field.

        And then of course, you have to think beyond WC weekend. I would rather play Arizona than Carolina. Especially if I am the Vikings who can’t play down 2 scores. Arizona has a tendency to start slow. If the Panthers put up 2 quick TDs on the Vikings they are toast.

      • TBC

        The players always talk about “hat and T-shirt day”. It definitely means something to them. How much? I don’t know. It means a lot to me as a fan. Especially when they Packers have won 4 in a row.

      • Irish Sweetness

        “What good is winning the division…”?

        You make the playoffs?

  • The GP

    Given that JJ Abrams REALLY beats the Nazi drum in the new Star Wars film – there are sections of the film that could have been directed by Leni Riefenstahl – was it really a good idea for the U.S. press secretary to show up with Stormtroopers? Doesn’t that practically play into our enemies hands?

    • BearDown100393

      Seems accurate?

    • Scharfinator

      Until the stormtroopers start wearing swastikas or a villain shows up with a shitler moustache, I don’t think so.

      • The GP

        The stormtroopers do a Sieg Heil in the new film. No kidding, they do.

        • The “Empire” was always a thinly veiled Nazi allusion.

          In the books (yes, I read them), the Emperor is a “speciest” . He believes humans are superior to every other species, and that’s why you only see humans in charge on death stars and the such, and why he enslaves the wooks and many other species.

          And in the movies, apparently only BRIT humans, at that.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Every clone-trooper was black though.

          • The empire is speciest not racist. But the clone troopers were the grunts anyways, not the moffs or admirals

        • Sactowns#1

          No. They do a black power fist but with the left arm. There are only so many ways you can salute. We’re running out of them.

        • Scharfinator

          WHen?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Well, they are fascists ….

  • Anonymous

    “Yes, I’m quite excited for this postseason. Can’t remember a year where I thought as many as 9 teams can win it all.”

    I count 6: NE, PITT, DEN, ARI, CAR and SEA. And two of those (PITT and DEN) come with big asterisks. PITT still has to qualify and DEN has no offense.

    • TBC

      The Giants won in 07 and 11 with some truly crappy teams. And Jeff is very aware of that. So I don’t understand his sentiment there. Anyone can win it all, and he emphasizes as much every year when the Bears are on the fringe of postseason consideration.

      • Anonymous

        Their 07 team was built for the playoffs. Ferocious D-line, strong 1-2 punch running attack and a QB who is bizarrely at his best in the biggest games.

    • That Guy

      I wouldn’t be shocked to see Manning come back for the playoffs, especially if they somehow manage a bye week.

      Cincy could do it. They’re notorious playoff chokers, but they’ve won a lot of games this year.

      Green Bay looks a mess, but in this league you can never count out a top tier QB.

  • Remember, Bears never intended to play Grasu this season. They drafted
    him for long term. Grasu being forced to make his mistakes publicly. – Jeff

    I will be very surprised if Grasu ever makes a PB. He’s not quite at Vereen level, but maybe a Carey level draft pick. He’s smart. He’s athletic. He’s got intangibles, but he definitely needs more brute strength, and as they say in boxing, power is god given.

    • The GP

      Thank you. He’s the offensive equivalent of Stephen Paea.

      • Yeah, I don’t see anything special in him. Guys like Warford impressed me more out of college. The fact that he couldn’t even play OG when everyone went down tells us all we need to know.

        Hope I’m wrong. but I honestly can’t recall being that off about Bears draft pick.

        I underestimated Carey a lil, but given that he can’t even be active, not by much.

        • The GP

          Jeff slapped my wrist with a ruler for mocking Carey.

          • MB30SD
          • MB30SD
          • The GP

            If I were in your shoes… I’d be uh…..

          • MB30SD

            a hooker like me?

          • The GP

            How does it feel to be an independent, Shoenstein?

          • MB30SD

            LEAVING!

          • Irish Sweetness

            One on the left would be down for anything. That’s a vixen.

          • MB30SD

            Lotta irish chicks look like that huh? Hahaha

          • Irish Sweetness

            Can’t remember. Yes.

          • Well, he does run hard, but by most accounts, he’s a knucklehead. Two diff regimes have essentially benched him even though his onfield performance isn’t horrible.

            If some of that Forte dedication were to rub off on him, maybe he could become viable.

            LeVeon Bell wasn’t much, but then got serious, lost some pounds, and became a stud.

            Doubt that happens with Carey, but heck, stranger shit has happened.

            Skittles was a bust in Buff.

    • Irish Sweetness

      One year and we’ve shat him out? He’s a rookie center, a padawan, and he needs to bulk up and learn the pro game. That’s all.

      • Calls em like i sees em. Didn’t need long to know Vereen, Greene or Hardin sucked. Grasu is a notch above. ..maybe

    • Irish Sweetness

      And as The Notorious one says, “Precision and timing over power and speed.”

  • The GP

    Anybody have Madden 2015? EA updates the player DB as the season goes along, I think one last update comes out just before the playoffs.

    Can anyone tell me Shae’s Madden scores?

    • MB30SD

      3.2?

      • MB30SD

        I was a little off. those scores seem pretty high

    • What’s Jared Allen’s awareness? 1000?

    • MB30SD

      and how in god’s name did he get a 79 in awareness?!?!?

      https://vine.co/v/eUWEHZELLJv

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        maybe he got points for being able to put his uniform and helmet on properly

  • MB30SD
  • The GP

    Here’s something I call “next year’s rap”

    https://youtu.be/Aw9BWDah6co?t=102

    • MB30SD

      looks good maings.

      he’s a another look for all the whiny little bitches on this joint these days…

      It was a godsend that kwhite got injured this year because with the D as big a mess as it is… maybe we would have wasted a year in his tank.

      Maybe this was the best outcome, heal him up this year, and bring him in as a shiny new toy kicking ass and taking names after pace has had another offseason to bring the D up to speed. Next year is the much better year for him to come on.

      Btw, am I the only one that thinks he looks like a black Jemaine Clement?

      • Sactowns#1

        Last year the Bears gave up 442. this year we have given up 360 points so far. Our D at least took a step forward, our O took a step back.

        • MB30SD

          yeah, that can happen when you have 1/2 to 2/3rds of your #1 WR for most the year, and a bunch of 4s and 6s the rest of the time. That and our oline was, uh, not made up of a bunch of seasoned pro bowlers.

          Let’s just edge back from the cliff a little and reiterate that this is ground zero year one of a…. TOTAL ORGANIZATIONAL AND SCHEME REBUILD.

          Let that shit sink in a bit. To jeff’s point earlier, we lost almost every game in the final minute(s) by 3 to 7 points and one play. unlike the tresticle era where we were blown out 6 or 7 times.

          I’m VERY bullish about next year my maings. Buck up camper!

          • Irish Sweetness

            We can survive without Matty, for sure. But without AJ as a #2, teams will bracket KW. So we need to either draft another RB or WR, and the chances of doing that with a high pick is probably nil. I’m leaning towards paying AJ more than he’s worth, because overall (with the results from KW) it’ll be worth it.

          • MB30SD

            he’ll be on this team next year one way or another (pay the man, or franchise his ass). Then KW will push him HARD, or he knows he’ll be expendable. That way we have 2 # 1s instead of the 1/2 a one we had this year.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I hope he’s had his head in the playbook ….

  • CanadaBear

    Just saw the pro bowl roster. They got the correct number of Bears going to Hawaii. That would be zero. Also, read one of our pressing needs next year is WR. Also QB and DL. You’d think someone at NFL.com would at least watch some of the games. DL of course but WR and QB are at least 3rd or 4th rd or later.

  • Martin Bell

    It’s not players or coaches the Bears need, it’s new ownership and management. They have taken one of the best franchises in the league and made it the patsy of the division. Until the fans start staying away as punishment, the team is destined to stay at or near the bottom. Green Bay always drafts after the Bears yet they stay in contention year after year, there must be a reason.

    • MB30SD

      Oh goood. Smmfh

    • Unless u got a few billion lying around, it’s never gonna happen

      • Irish Sweetness

        If I had 2 billion I’d spend it all on the Bears. I would. I’d live at Halas Hall.

        • MB30SD

          one of these fucking days I’m going to meet you Irish. I am so god damn curious what you look like/are like. I’ll come to thailand one day in the next few years and I’m going to buy you a pin… oh, never mind. I’ll buy you a coke and a gloryhole.

      • Martin Bell

        That’s the problem!!! The family has to split the take among at least 80 Halas heirs, what’s the hope for the future with that on the team’s back?

    • Better drafting means they have better GMs. Not better ownership.

      • Martin Bell

        ………and who is it that selects the GM??? Each of the last very few times when the Bears had a collection of good players they refused to re-sign them at increased salaries.,,,What could Cutletr have done with Olsen and Marshall still out there alongside Jeffries?

        • 1) If you want to be taken seriously, at least learn the names of players on your own team. Jeffery. Not Jeffries. Jeffery.

          2) Olsen had nothing to do with money. Martz simply didn’t want to use his TE to catch passes, and that’s about all Olsen is good for. It was incredibly stupid of the Bears to trade him, but it had nothing to do with $$.

          3) Neither did Marshall. They gave him a big new contract the year before trading him and ate a bunch of dead money. He had to go for off-field reasons; he was a locker room cancer. Had absolutely nothing to do with money.

          4) The whole “Bears are cheap” narrative hasn’t been true in at least a decade. They kept guys like Urlacher, Tillman, and Briggs around through their whole careers by paying them very well. They brought in Peppers with a huge contract. Cutler has been well compensated throughout his career, as was Forte. Marshall too. They pay guys who are worth paying.

          5) Yes, the ownership’s job is to hire a good GM. They haven’t done a great job of that lately. I’m not saying the Bears have terrific ownership-they don’t-but I think they’re making a sincere effort to get better. They hired a smart football guy to help them with the process this time and stay out of the way to let the football guys they’ve hired run the football side of things.

      • Martin Bell

        I should add that the odds are that Cutler will be leaving because they won’t give him what he asks. What do you think that will be the effect on 2016? It looks even worse than 2015. I had season box seats for years but they’ll never get another dime from me. Why should I reward them for mediocrity?

        • Cutler is under contract for 5 years. They don’t have to give them anything more.

          Go ahead and stop going to games. Let others go who will enjoy it more. Nothing wrong with that.

          • Martin Bell

            My friend, I was born a Bear fan! I go back to Luckman, McAffee, Turner, and Nagurski. My father started taking me to Wrigley Field games when I was seven. I was at Butkus’s first and last games. Let me tell you the Bear Culture and pride of those years was not what it is today. Papa Bear, if he was alive today would be embarrassed! I also think he would be telling them in no uncertain terms to sell if they couldn’t straighten out the mess

    • That Guy

      Green Bay stays in contention year after year because they have one of the top 3 quarterbacks of the last 10 years if not the best. Indy was exactly the same way and when Manning left they were the worst team in the league. Take Rodgers off that roster and Green Bay wins 5 games this season.

      You can’t say the coaches and GM are fine and then complain about ownership. Ownership hires the GM and then stays away unless you’re Dallas or Washington. The McCaskeys have been vocal about the fact that they will not get in the way of the football people in running this team.

      Emery was a bad hire, but he looked solid at the time. Trestman was a terrible hire, but we were all excited about the offense when he came on board. The fact that the ownership fired those guys as fast as they did is actually rather impressive. Most people were expecting Emery to get another couple of years with a new head coach.

      There are a lot of things to complain about with this team’s performance, but ownership is not one of them. You probably also think we need to trade Cutler and grab a rookie in the third round of the draft this year don’t you?

      • Martin Bell

        I include GM as management. I think there is little evidence that management OR ownership has given full support to the coaches and team to bring a winner to Chicago.
        Green Bay drafted those players including quarterbacks, receivers, running backs and linebackers, in all likelihood most of them AFTER the Bears had made their picks.
        No, I think Cutler has been deprived of what he needed to be even more of a passing threat. Why aren’t Olsen and Marshall still among his receivers? Could it be management wouldn’t come up with the bucks? If Cutler leaves it will be because manahement won’t pay him whar he asks and won’t do much to make him a winner. Why did Pepper leave to become a team leader on the Packers? Same reason. The team has 80 Halas heirs to divide the take which seems to come first. When was the last time the Bears hired one of the really top notch coaches to run the team? Look at Rivera for an example, a former Bear, now an undefeated coach!

        • That Guy

          Management – meaning Ryan Pace – has been in place for exactly one season.

          He traded Marshall because the locker room culture needed a serious makeover. He drafted Kevin White to fill the spot, but White got injured – it happens.

          Olsen was two GMs ago. Mike Martz was fired in part for failing to use adapt to the modern TE position. Emery was fired for failing to build a good offense. Lovie was fired for failing to build a good offense. Emery brought in M Bennett who has pretty much picked up the slack from Olsen leaving.

          Prior to this year the team has been pretty much right up against the salary cap. With the new rules about cap floors there aren’t any teams that can really be accused of being cheap anymore. And Peppers was released because he was old and wasn’t worth $20M. He’s had some success in Green Bay (for a fraction of the money), but would not have justified his salary in Chicago. And we used that money to sign guys like Jay Cutler, Bennnett, Pernell McPhee and Jermon Bushrod, so we’ve gotten some good value there.

          Fox is a top notch coach. He was the single best guy on the market last off-season and Pace got him. Money was not an issue. Rivera’s success in Carolina is great, but I’m not sure what you would have wanted the team to do to get him to be the head coach here.

          The team sucks because we have serious deficiencies at multiple positions. Pace had a good off-season last year. This year he’s got plenty of cap room, good draft position and extra picks. There’s no reason to think we can’t get significantly better again.

          Management was the problem last year. It is not the problem this year.

          • Martin Bell

            Good value???

          • Martin Bell

            The ownership will always be the problem until the McCaskeys sell. There should be another cap on owners salaries. What other team has 80 owners to award for doing absolutely nothing?
            (Olsen,Marshall, Pepper, and soon Forte and Cutler are gone for one reason, money!
            Loyalty to fans and players is not a part of the Bear culture anymore. I go back to being
            a season ticket holder for many seasons all the way back to Wrigley Field! Trust me the Bear Culture is not what it was when Halas was alive.

          • Martin Bell

            I’ll go back to my original point regarding “serious deficiencies”. The Packers have very few players on the team that they did not draft, the Bears have one of the lowest
            percentages of drafted players on their team, there must be a reason and I think some of the problem is not only money but a lack of confidence that they will be winners with the Bears. When was the last time the Bears drafted after the Packers? At one time the Bears were THE team to play on, no more. The pride is gone.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Anyone see David Johnson go off on Sunday?

    I couldn’t be arsed setting my 20 teams for FF playoffs on Sunday. I was tired. Rawls was in everywhere (didn’t play) but DJ was too. He had like 40+ FF points and saved me across the board, but wow. Can we get one of those? Drafted in the 3rd, 6’1 224lbs. Was he fourth string at the start of the year?

    Is he much bigger than Forte? Matt is 6’2 and 218. DJ plays faster and bigger. Age, my brethren. Age.
    There is no point in bringing Matt back as a runner. The following numbers are something he never put together even as a younger man :

    29 carries, 187 yards, 6.4, 3 TDs.

    Langford has his use, but we need a body size similar to Matty’s. If we go RB in the third would anyone cry?

    • beninnorcal

      I think we need to soend every pick on D.

      • Irish Sweetness

        If we spent the first three on DE/DE/ILB I would not cry. And enough of the BPA …. we need to get push from the guys that are up front because blitzing is not a thing with our defense.

        I think if we offer AJ 8 million, then nobody else will offer more. And for a super bowl run, maybe a RB in the 4th. A sizeable dude.

    • Anonymous

      He looks thicker than Matty, especially at that age. Nice pick by ARI.

  • MB30SD
    • Irish Sweetness

      Classic. All I can think about are Sally Field’s feet pushing up against the windscreen.

      But a 3-speed? Really?

      • MB30SD

        Really. ‘Murican ingenuity my maings

  • Irish Sweetness

    Eh … anyone bet on here?

    Totesport.com – the site I bet with – have Pittsburgh +9.5 ATS !!!

    We know what’s happened here (they’re 2/11 to win outright) .. but legally, what’s the deal? I’ve just backed them twice (once in a double with ARI -4, and on their own). Did I miss something? Are Ben/Brown/Bryant all injured?

    My slip says PIT +9.5 in both bets. That can’t get changed, right? The bet has been struck, no?

    https://www.totesport.com/sports/b/american-football/nfl/nfl-matches/week-16-matches

    GO GO GO!

    • MB30SD

      Damn. The difference between him and chicken bone is pretty stark. He attacks immediately. Wish they did more than just 2 plays

      • Yeah, I was hoping they’d pull the all-22 on the passing plays, see how he drops into coverage or trails the TE/RB.

        If he pans out, that’s a huge bonus.

        Unrein also looks solid, but haven’t re-watched the game yet.

    • That Guy

      Things I liked about that video:

      1) No hesitation on either play moving across the entire offensive line. That’s good coaching and good awareness – he knew exactly what his keys were and followed them without hesitation.

      2) Good tackling technique. He wraps up Peterson with both arms and takes him all the way down to the ground. No shoulder bumps, no one arm stuff, just great technique. I do wonder if he’ll have trouble not bending a bit more, but I’m not well enough versed to know if that’s just a situation thing.

      3) Good athleticism. He’s fast, has good agility on the turn and run and the slide.

      That’s 2 plays out of maybe 60, and Viking scored a lot of points, so Tom could just be cherry picking the good tape. Still, a lot to build on there.

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