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Audibles From the Long Snapper: Around the League We Go!

| December 8th, 2015

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(1) Giants have lost 3 games this season (Cowboys, Falcons, Jets) due to egregious mismanagement. I love Tom Coughlin but barring a substantial run over the next two months he can’t be their head coach in 2016.

(2) Spend a few minutes and read some of the love poems the national writers wrote about Dan Quinn in September. Atlanta has fallen off a cliff. Peter King was the leader of the QuinnLove Movement.

(3) Carolina should put Charles Tillman on the shelf until the postseason. Let him get healthy. And then let me root harder for a non-Bears team than I ever have before.

(4) Atlanta was the first paper tiger to fall. The second? Minnesota. That team has feasted on poor opponents. They may still make the playoffs but they might be the 10th best team in the conference when they do.

(5) If I were running all of the franchises, these jobs would join Miami and Tennessee on the market this January:

  • Cleveland. Too much change can be a bad thing but I have no idea what Mike Pettine brings to an organization.
  • New York Giants. Have a press conference. Put Tom Coughlin in the ring of honor. And then get thirty years younger at the head coaching spot.
  • New Orleans. It’s over. Move on.
  • San Diego. And don’t be surprised if John Fox brings Mike McCoy to take over the Bears offense should Adam Gase find a head coaching gig.
  • Detroit. I’m not sure why Jim Cadwell is still the coach. Once he admitted to not playing for the Hail Mary, I wouldn’t have let him back into his office.
  • St. Louis. I’ve been a fan of Jeff Fisher for a long time but that team is far too talented to get blown out each and every week. Fisher doesn’t have it anymore.

(6) Tom Brady has no receivers that can catch, no professional running backs on the roster and an offensive line that can’t block. Other than that they’re fine. He’s also starting to get hit way too much. Once New England has their playoff position solidified, I’d put Brady firmly on the bench for a few weeks.

(7) If the season ended today…

AFC BYES: Cincinnati, Denver

AFC WILDCARD ROUND: New York Jets at New England, Kansas City at AFC South Winner

NFC BYES: Carolina, Arizona

NFC WILDCARD ROUND: Minnesota at NFC East Winner, Seattle at Green Bay

(8) This article from Jason LaCanfora is one of the craziest NFL stats in years. Tom Brady now has more receiving yards this season than Dwayne Bowe and Bowe is making $6M.

(9) Nine extra points missed Sunday. Eight missed last year. Kickers now far more important in the NFL. Who wanted that?

(10) This is the time of year where OUTRAGE emerges that an 8-8 division winner may actually host an 11-win wildcard team in the postseason. That outrage has never held water.  NFL team records aren’t comparable in the same way they are in other sports. What will the Giants and Seahawks have, three similar opponents this year? The schedule is specifically built so that the only records that are comparable are among division rivals. Winning your division has to matter. If it doesn’t than just scrap divisions altogether.

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  • SC Dave

    First to chuckle about #2

  • The GP
    • Trac

      Dam good showing though.

    • MB30SD

      hahahaha…. damn, that shit was COLD.

      on a date last night and saw a tradewind truck roll by, but it was lemonaide… same company I’m guessing? Anyway, I immediately started laughing. She was like WTF!?

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

      haha, I just saw this. Cousins and Tamme fucked me man.

  • BillW

    Jeff brighted my Bears outlook tremendously by pointing out something I stupidly forgot.

    While the more hc jobs that open up, the greater chance Gase and/or Fangio go, there is a flip side

    For every hc fired, there is a staff looking for work. Now in some cases they will be retained. And in others they may be the reason the team did poorly. But there will be a talent pool to replace either or both if necessary

    And with the team clearly improving it will be a prime job

    We’ll be fine in that department

    • DaBearsBlog

      No doubt about it. And John Fox is very popular with tremendous stability. He’ll have his choice. (And I’m not convinced either coordinator gets a HC job.)

      • SC Dave

        (Agreed)

        • BillW

          Not convinced either. But no longer fretting it.

      • Sactowns#1

        If anyone is looking to hire Gase they should look at his play calling in the last game. ” Hey lets run the ball 11 times in a row. They’ll never see it coming!”

    • That Guy

      Plus a lot of the head coaches on the hot seat this year are know for being stellar coordinators.

      I suspect Sean Payton will get another HC job right away if he wants one. Maybe Fisher, but maybe not. The rest of those guys will be OC, DC and Position Coach/Assistant Head coach types.

  • BearDown100393

    Adam Gase has not yet done enough to become a NFL Head Coach and the Bears are in no real position to have its starting quarterback go through another Offensive Coordinator change. Gase should stay right where he is.

    • willbest

      How much is that Gase, and how much is that Fox turning to him and saying “Burn the opponents timeouts”

      • BillW

        Gotta be Fox in my opinion. That seems traditionally to be the an HC decision.

        Then again, Jauron left it up to the Shoopster. Who took a knee three times and punted with still a fair amount of time on the clock.

        • Bender McLugh

          Shoooop!

    • Anonymous

      Not sure about that. Apparently he was a prime HC candidate last year, and the Cutler miracle year should not hurt his resume.

      The only thing that might curtail his HC chances is our losing record. That might be tough to sell to an owner and/or fan base.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He’s become predictable e.g. Cutty’s check out to the flats that was returned for 6. Tendencies.

      We need a FG or score – Gase runs it three times up the middle. Teams know he’s not going downtown or passing it at all. Load the box and try for the strip.

      Fangio is also predictable in the non-blitzing sense.

  • willbest

    In fairness to the NFC East, the #6 WC in the NFC isn’t going to belong in the playoffs, and if Seattle doesn’t beat Arizona they shouldn’t be in either. Going to get a chuckle if the 7-9 Cowboys make the playoffs because they are the only team with a division record over .500

  • The GP

    Jeff –

    In years past you laughed at the early mock drafts calling them useless. Because they are. Now you are tweeting about one. What happened?

    • DaBearsBlog

      I didn’t even read the second two player names. I just like to see whether the guessers are paying attention to the team’s actual needs.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly in regard to #9, which is why lengthening the PAT was such a stupid rule change. Ironically, increasing the importance of the PK would have worked to the Bears’ advantage for the last decade but not so much now.

    Jeff Fisher has been overrated for years.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Cleveland. Too much change can be a bad thing but I have no idea what Mike Pettine brings to an organization.”
    Begs the question: “WHAT ‘Organization’?

  • AlbertInTucson

    “(1) Giants have lost 3 games this season (Cowboys, Falcons, Jets) due to egregious mismanagement. I love Tom Coughlin but barring a substantial run over the next two months he can’t be their head coach in 2016.”

    “(2) Spend a few minutes and read some of the love poems the national writers wrote about Dan Quinn in September. Atlanta has fallen off a cliff. Peter King was the leader of the QuinnLove Movement.”

    And wasn’t there a “love poem” authored on this blog about how good the GIANTS really were earlier this season…?

    • DaBearsBlog

      Nope. I think the Giants stink. But I also think they will win the Super Bowl if they get into the playoffs.

      • BillW

        Giants vs Chico for the NFCC. Who do you like Blogfather?

  • AlbertInTucson

    “(8) This article from Jason LaCanfora is one of the craziest NFL stats in years. Tom Brady now has more receiving yards this season than Dwayne Bowe and Bowe is making $6M.”

    Now THAT is funny!

    • SC Dave

      Well shit, how much does Brady make, $20M?

      • That Guy

        But Brady makes his money for throwing the ball, not catching it.

        • AlbertInTucson

          And that catch and run by Brady was better than anything Bowe has shown since he arrived in hell, er, Cleveland.

      • willbest

        I think Brady only gets paid like 15 million a year. He takes a sweetheart deal under the theory that they can buy him better protection and weapons, which isn’t working out this year. I suppose that is easier to do when your wife, for whatever reason, makes $50 million a year

  • AlbertInTucson

    “St. Louis. I’ve been a fan of Jeff Fisher for a long time but that team is far too talented to get blown out each and every week. Fisher doesn’t have it anymore.”

    No QB. No success.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Winning your division has to matter. If it doesn’t than just scrap divisions altogether.”

    Doesn’t seem fair, but, plenty of Wild Cards have made the current formula work.

    The division system isn’t near as in need of a fix (if at all) as the rule book, the zebras and how they handle replay.

    • BillW

      All people are saying is that the division winner should not be given automatic home field advantage. I don’t see any controversy in that. Winning the division gets you in the playoffs. A better record gives you home field.

      • willbest

        Not seeing where anything Seattle has done this year should merit them getting home field over whoever the NFCE winner is.

        Probably about the only time I would even consider letting the WC host a playoff game is if the WC had a BETTER record and the WC had beaten the Division team they want a home game against in h2h.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “(3) Carolina should put Charles Tillman on the shelf until the postseason. Let him get healthy. And then let me root harder for a non-Bears team than I ever have before.”

    Sorry, but Peanut is still the poster child for “Just waiting for the next joint / tendon / ligament / bone to go “pop”.”

    • BillW

      Wait Jeff, what about the Super Bowl bound NYGs (if they make the playoffs)?

      • BillW

        Ah – I see the distinction. You will WANT Carolina to win the NFCC but you THINK the Giants will if they get in.

  • willbest

    I would be hard pressed to come up with a better non-bear team to go 19-0 than Carolina. Chico, Tillman, Olsen. Never been a Bear but a perennial all-pro Mike in Luke Kuechly. They are even doing it with no name and has been wide receivers.

    • The GP

      Ginn is more like a wants-to-be

    • AlbertInTucson

      Especially to shut up those ’72 Dolphins.

  • SC Dave

    Now that the hysteria over Robbie has subsided a bit, I thought I should point out that in this, his worst season in the NFL, his rank.in the league is #19. Granted, a long ways from the top five that we.have seen forever, but hardly worthy of instant firing or calling of less than “NFL quality”.

    How fast it was forgotten he made his first seventeen kicks this season.

    • BillW

      I agree with your point and will jump in to say I may have been unfair. I love Robbie and all he’s done over the years.

      • BillW

        But he absolutely sucks right now. (just kidding. sort of)

        • AlbertInTucson

          Most Kickers, even the great ones, go thru a spell or two like this.

          The Chiefs thought Jan Stenerud was finished after 1979 and he went on to have some nice years in Green Bay.

          The Saints thought Morten Andersen was washed up after ’94 and HE went on to kick for another DOZEN SEASONS.

          In the 90s the Raiders dumped Jeff Jaeger who promptly filled a gaping hole in Chicago for 3 more seasons.

          Definitely, “..careful what you wish for.”

          • SC Dave

            So funny you used that quote in response, as i was so close to adding it to my original post

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Great minds think alike.”

          • Irish Sweetness

            This. Facts. Thank you, Al.

    • Anonymous

      If the fan base turned on Cutler as quickly as it turned on Gould, Cutler would not have even lasted his first season, much less the numerous non-stellar ones that followed.
      That said, I have no issue if they cut ties with Gould at the end of season. But it could be a careful what you wish for move.

      • BillW

        They cut “ButtHead” and it took a while to find a replacement. But it was an inevitable necessary transition. I think it took Jeff Jaeger to get some stability before they found Edinger.

    • MB30SD

      He lost us two games dave.

      My issue is actually, and strangely, much more with the fact that he can’t get touchbacks… ever. I need that stat, how many has he done this year… I can’t remember seeing one. With our specials that’s a td waiting to happen.

      Net-net, it’s more about his overall trajectory. It’s a very downward trajectory my underdog-loving maings

      • SC Dave

        Believe me, MB, I’m with you on the touchback thing. Not sure where it came.from,as he has hit 50+ fg for sure.

        I would be curious whether they are askimg him to make it playable

        • Irish Sweetness

          And then MB says exactly the same thing, but you give him a pass. There isn’t even any consistency. You attack people, not points.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      Cut his ass, then drag him out to the street and beat him with kickoff tees. Our kicker has 2 jobs on the team, touchbacks on kickoffs- which he sucks at, and making field goals. nothing else. his only job day in and day out at practice is kicking! Not reading coverages, making audibles, blocking, tackling, running or catching, just kicking. So when you can’t do the only 2 things you need to do consistently you should get your ass cut.

      • willbest

        Well there is the occasional call for onside kicks which Gould is something like 0-12 on.

      • SC Dave

        Damn you can be an idiot sometimes. He is stillbetter than 13 other kickers in the league, moron. Until you have someone better, you keep him.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          really resorting to name calling. look at your stats evidently there are 18 other kickers better than him not 13, and last year was his worst season in the NFL. He is 34 year old kicker with a history of leg injuries over the last several years. He also has a history of missing very makeable FG between 30-49 yards. He is not one of the most accurate kickers anymore. also you are a fart knocker.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Stop calling people names, it’s pathetic and says more about you than it does anyone else. This is not WCG or NFL.COM. What HBP said was accurate, but there is no need for the ad hominems.

    • willbest

      How about weighted for distance and indoor/outdoor.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Easily forgotten once he starts losing us games, and that’s at least #2 this season.
      The Redskins kicker Hopkins, took the loss on himself because of his 46 yard miss. Gould misses two penalty kicks and not a word. Even Jay takes losses on his shoulders when it’s got little to do with him. Silence is Goulden.

  • The GP
    • BillW

      Wow – what a great read. Thanks much GP for posting that. It helps me understand a bit more what Fangio means when he describes it as a hybrid 3-4.

      I can only assume if Fangio were to leave for a HC job we are now committed to this scheme.

      Respect to Willie for working so hard. Real respect to him – I think he’s a “Bear” now.

      And I had no idea Bleacher Report had quality articles like this. I may have to add it to my links.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Where do they talk about a hybrid 3-4? All I got from that piece was a bunch of photos, a snippet of Young triying to get himself fired after week 10, his stats, and the fact that he likes the four point stance.

  • The GP

    Potash makes a point:

    Jeff Rodgers just can’t win. The Bears’ special teams coordinator, who’s had a tough first season in Chicago, snookered the 49ers with a misdirection punt return for an apparent touchdown by Bryce Callahan; Eddie Goldman blocked an extra point; and Deonte Thompson returned a kickoff 74 yards with 1:32 left in a tie game. And somehow he came up empty. Callahan’s return was nullified by LaRoy Reynolds’ penalty; and Robbie Gould missed a 36-yard field goal to render Thompson’s return moot.

    -Sun Times

    • TBC

      Bears Special teams were pretty awesome on Sunday. The disparity in starting field position should have been enough to win the game by itself.

      • Scharfinator

        They’re quietly our most improved unit.

        Though they had the most room to grow over last year.

        • CanadaBear

          If i remember correctly SF had less than 10 yds for punt returns THIS SEASON going into the Bears game. They are super bad.

  • Sactowns#1

    He’s the gift that keeps on giving. Somehow I think this is all a Stephen Colbert inspired goof on America. http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/262410-trump-were-at-war-get-it-through-your-head

    • willbest

      He is going to win. I have no idea what he is going to do with it when he does.

      Just a thought. When you buy a car, and you have done your research and you know the dealer should give you $3,000 off MSRP, you don’t ask for $3,000 off MSRP. You ask for $6,000 off MSRP. Trump as a business man is expanding the negotiating window to get what he wants.

      Anyway JK Rowlings just tweeted that Trump is worse than Voldemort, which leads me to believe either she gets her news from the BBC or she didn’t write the Harry Potter books.

      • Scharfinator

        JK doing some shameless self promotion we see.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Ah, JK. But she probably wants Hilary in, so wtf does she know ….

    • beninnorcal

      I’m no Trump fan, nor am I some Muslim-hater, but he is right- we are at war. San Bernadino won’t be the last, I’m afraid.

      • Sactowns#1

        If your answer to being at war is to discard your values and hide under the covers, go for it. That aint me and it’s not the country I was born and raised in.

        • beninnorcal

          Huh? I’m not voting for Trump, if that’s what you mean. Only pointing out a fact, we are at war with radical Jihadists.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Actually, no. Obama’s made that clear. The French are at war, Russia has just launched cruise missiles from submarines into Syria, but for some reason Obama has only sent 200 Special Forces in.

            But again, you can’t beat guerrillas/’terror’ cells. It’s never been done.

        • beninnorcal

          Who said I’m hiding under my covers and discarding my values? My values never change and I’m always locked and loaded. No terrorist, foreign or domestic, better come knocking on my door.

  • MB30SD

    GP: http://uncrate.com/stuff/1972-ferrari-365-gtb4-daytona-berlinetta/

    Love this thing maings. My aunt’s first husband had a red one.

    • The GP

      You should have nabbed that car man.

      • MB30SD

        I was 3

  • The GP

    My nephew, CPD, pulled two of the three guys trapped inside, from a burning car that ended up exploding twice.

    http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/71/1162653/officers-witness-crash-pull-3-people-burning-car-englewood

    Maybe the Feds could add that to the investigation, since he got his hand cut and nearly cooked.

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

      badass move.

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene
    • BillW

      Gotta make you proud! God bless him – one of the 99.999999% good ones that keep me and millions others safe every day.

    • beninnorcal

      That’s badass, GP

    • Doc Nitty

      My brother, who is a flight paramedic, came upon an accident on the way to work one day. The car was on fire. He tried to free one guy but couldn’t so he freed the other person. While he was pulling the one person away, he had to listen to the other guy burn and scream for help. He died. Can you imagine? He followed his training and saved the most savable person, but still, the guilt from “choosing” must be hell on one’s conscience.

      • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

        damn doc, I was going to go eat lunch but I think i’ll walk into traffic now instead.

        • Scharfinator

          NOoo you’ll just make the same thing happen for another first responder!

      • beninnorcal

        Yeesh. That sounds pretty terrible, Doc. But also sounds like he made the right call.

        • MB30SD

          Watched that the other day. great flick.

      • MB30SD

        jesus

      • Irish Sweetness

        Sophie’s choice. I only found out what the choice was the other week.

    • BearDown100393

      He’s a hero.

    • did he pull them out, then shoot them 15 times while they were laying down on the ground motionless and defenseless?

      if not, i’d say he’s a good cop and has nothing to worry about.

  • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

    There are two people that I’d consider voting for in the presidential election and one decided not to run and one barely makes the debate roster.
    The field running for president is fucking scary. I am actually scared if any of these fuckheads get elected.
    Electing Clinton is pretty much just admitting that the presidency is bought and paid for and that you can just lie to your base and simply get away with it.
    Electing someone like Cruz or Trump is asking for a civil war or WW3.
    Biden and Kasich should run on a ticket.

    I just want to stockpile a couple million, buy a small yacht and float around the British Virgin Islands until this all blows over in 60yrs when skynet takes over.

    I only bring this up because a coworker wanted to discuss this.

    • BearDown100393

      Depressing.

      • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

        I may not even vote. I think i’ll spend that day coaching a kids soccer game or something.

        • TBC

          they way you state that makes it seem like coaching a soccer game is something you can do on a whim, like renting a puppy during finals week. Which would be pretty awesome if true.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            I’ve got 2 in soccer and it’s just a bunch of dad’s that kind of keep the herd moving in the right direction. I hope they have a game that day. It’s that or being assaulted outside my polling place by teamsters.

            Also, I’ve kept it open by adding “something” which could be a little “marketing meeting” at the local pub.

          • BillW

            There is very little in life more rewarding than helping kids see the value of teamwork.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            that and a Cutler to Alshon back shoulder TD.

          • SC Dave

            Or forte over the shoulder

          • CanadaBear

            Oh hell Dave, just ask for a reach around.

        • BillW

          I have never not voted in a presidential election going all the back to my first in 1972. Always had a logical (to me) reason for my choice – even though my age and maturity woudl lead me to argue the other side with myself now.

          But I had a reason – it was thought out and not blind.

          I may sit this one out for the first time in 44 years.

          • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

            I know true believers, party line toers, preppers, commies, tea party zealots, bleeding hearts, faith based voters, blue dogs, Kennedy Dems, Reagan Repubs, Libertarians, Hawks, union party line guys, etc. Everyone has their own reasons for voting the way they do.
            I’m stuck in the middle with a lot of other americans and have no candidate, no lobby, no base, no hope of having a true centrist be elected. I also live in Chicago so I can’t even rely on parity on the local level.
            I therefore will put all of my effort into my kids, family, local community, the Bears/Hawks, making a shit ton of money and my sun tan.

          • Sactowns#1

            If you want hope for the future, hope for a candidate that actually represents you, vote Bernie Sanders. You might not agree with a single thing he says but he is the ONLY candidate who has vowed to end citizens united and the free flow of money into politics. Until that ends we’ll all keep getting candidates that care about nothing but the next fundraising stop.

          • willbest

            See that is what I say about trump. You want to increase wages for Joe Q Public. Restrict the supply of labor and which drives the price of labor up. How do you do that? close the border, and don’t let anybody in.

          • SC Dave

            Lol!!!! Hahahahaha!!!

          • Irish Sweetness

            The thing about that is, Sac, is that if he had the balls to tell the people to write their congressman to end the Federal Reserve Act, he’d be shot in the head in public.

          • Scharfinator

            An unfortunate truth we all need to be aware of. We don’t have a voice in the grand scale – but we can affect the people and community around us. I’m looking to move into a small mountain town in the next 3-5 years if I can figure it out.

          • SC Dave

            This. Esp.outside the us

          • Johnnywad

            I’ve felt this for a few years now. I’m not spending another second of my life on something so far beyond my ability to control. There’s far too much good shit going on to get spun up in the political shit show.

          • SC Dave

            Youcan always write Waffle in.

        • Irish Sweetness

          God, don’t waste your time voting. It only encourages them. Everybody should protest by not voting.

    • Sactowns#1

      Bernie is my guy all the way. I dig someone who is honest to a fault and who has an actual moral compass that they stick to.
      You’re absolutely right about Clinton . The sad part is many of the people I worked with, went to school with etc have now worked in politics for long enough to not just get accustomed to the grift but enjoy it.

      • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

        lol, Sac, you didn’t have to tell me you were feeling the Bern. I kind of assumed it.

      • dude’s been saying the same thing since the 80s. he’s been voting the same way since the 80s. been turning down corporate money since the 80s.

        did you watch his “democratic socialism” speech at Georgetown University? really powerful stuff.

        • willbest

          you can’t have democratic socialism with a shared foundation culture.

    • BillW

      One thing that scares me is the number of people who get their “news” from Comedy Central and / or Facebook.

      Now take this with a grain – I voted for Obama but am very disappointed in his performance this term. (And for perspective – I voted for W twice too. I’m a Republican bascially – why I ovted for ether is not the issue here).

      The issue is a comment I got from someone who said the San Bernadino situation was yet more fallout from Obamacare. How so? Because the country is falling into a state of depression somehow linked to Obama and or the Afordable Care Act or something (I stopped listening and asked how did you draw that conclusion?)

      “Well, I read it on Facebook and it made sense”.

      Facebook – home of the virtual jet fuel geniuses.

      http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/styx/toomuchtimeonmyhands.html

      • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

        Bill, you need only visit the Bears Facebook page to ascertain all you need to know about Facebook.

        • Sactowns#1

          Seriously. They’re almost as dumb as the comments you hear on the Score.

        • BillW

          It’s a virtual bar. I don’t care about stuff that’s not important in the grand scheme like the Bears.

          But people actually read an ignorant comment and the person gets a bunch of “likes” and similarly inclined Facebook nuts somehow think that is enough validation to make it profound.

        • BearDown100393

          Truth

      • Irish Sweetness

        Honest question. Why does it matter who you vote for? The President doesn’t run the show.

        • BillW

          Saw this late. Good question. I feel personally that I myself should take the time to consciously determine why this person should represent my country on the global stage vs the other(s) . That’s the most concise reason I can give

          • Irish Sweetness

            It just seems in a bi-partisan system that the only way to instigate real change is to vote with your feet. Nobody goes to the polls, that’s how the message gets sent.

    • BillW

      Won’t happen, but this would be a great time for a bi-partisan ticket.

      Or one or two solid “independents” running from the list of “establishment” candidates.

      IF by some convergence of events Trump manages to get enough delegates through the party rules, I would hope the Republicans as a party would not support him and agree on someone else to run as an independent.

      At least that would bring some level of history to the election.

      • willbest

        heh. You know George Soros and the Koch brothers share more in common with each other than either shares with the respective bases of their parties. The elite would be laughing all the way to the bank on a unity ticket.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Aren’t the elite always laughing their way to the bank? Especially the elite who ARE the bank.

    • The GP

      Cruz has a pedo look to him, like he has Fogle blood in him somehow.

      If I gad to choose between my postman looking like Nixon or Cruz, I am going 100% Nixon on that one.

    • willbest

      I doubt you are going to get WW3 from Trump. If you are a cynic the shit storm in Syria is basically about the Saudi’s wanting to build a pipeline to Europe and Russia not really feeling that.

      I think Trump is far more likely to come to some sort of rational accord on the matter that involves us not really caring rather than the current half assed attempt by Obama to placate our “allies” in the middle east into removing Putin’s sock puppet.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Trump just suggested stopping Muslims from entering the country. How that’s not incitement to hatred and totally against the law I don’t know, but he would be the worst candidate for the job based on that. He’s either (a) an idiot or (b) going for the racist vote. Either way, he’s an idiot.

        • willbest

          The SC has ruled that FedGov can discriminate against whoever it wants trying to get into the US. Part of that whole, non-citizens are not afford any rights under the constitution if they are not on US soil thing. The US has used this multiple times throughout its history to justify discrimination based on country of origin (Germans, Japanese, Iranians), and ethnic/religious groups (Jews) just for some examples. In fact, Jimmy Carter even deported 15,000 Iranian students who were in the US legally over the whole hostage situation. Trump isn’t even proposing to do that.

    • Scharfinator

      It’s a mess. Until the American public figures out that a bi party system is not truly a choice, we will continue this tedious task. If we do eventually figure out the biparty system is a joke, it won’t be an easy transition to get the status quo to get out of the way. It may be another revolution.

      • Trac

        This!!!

      • willbest

        Be kind of nice to do away with congressional districts. No constitutional reason they should exist.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Bill Hicks on Politics in America.

  • 505Bears

    Marty on IR? Did I miss something?

    • willbest

      wow… usually they play through those. Either its a pretty big deal, or there are political reasons

      • 505Bears

        Yeah, I don’t see a rib injury being that terrible that he couldn’t play through it. Either he does not want to play through it, or the powers that be don’t want him to. Either way, interesting

        • willbest

          Well Marshall went on to IR last year due to a rib & lung injury, but he was in the hospital for 5 days. He played with this on Sunday.

          • Scharfinator

            I understand why we cut him – but Marshall will always be one of my favorites.

          • MB30SD

            yuuuup

          • Irish Sweetness

            I don’t understand why we cut him, and likewise. He is literally the only good thing on that offense. We’d be a different team and in the playoffs if he was here.

          • willbest

            Well he cost 10 million…. 5 you get because you don’t pay Royal. Still got to come up with another 4 million. So no Rolle or no McPhee. And then his relationship with the QB went into the shitter. Somebody had to go

      • Irish Sweetness

        He’s just a loon.

        And if we gave the Jets their Starkiller-weapon for a bag of chips …. then the Uni-loon must also go.

    • Anonymous

      Score is suggesting he is done as a Bear … that CHI brass is tired of his act and that he has played his last game here.

      • BillW

        So shutting him down so as not to lose trade value?

        • Anonymous

          That seems to be the implication.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Brain sprain.

  • The GP

    Prosper dropped $30k on Fuck Roohk at 38.5% APR. He used it to buy his gold plated AKs and a van and a ton of bullets and a few nice pipes. That’s a rate waffle could get behind setting somebody up in a nice home equity short-term.

    So, I guess Fuck Roohk picked “Special Occasion” as his reason for the loan.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-california-shooting-account-idUSKBN0TR27P20151208?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter#D2b6x6BzfbbGeuHh.97

    Except in this case, everyone didn’t prosper.

    We gotta curb or regulate this bullshit P2P loan business. It’s like AML 101 out there with this shit.

    • willbest

      Could just get rid of fractional reserve. Would suffer a depression for 2-4 years but after that this sort of thing would no longer happen.

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

      damn, that’s cold. I’m going to go shoot it all up and y’all gonna pay me to do it. A bunch of millenials are going to be pissed at their rate of return.

    • Sactowns#1

      The two most urgent economic issues we need to tackle, in my opinion, unregulated loan products like this and intense foreign investment in US properties. We continue to slowly move wealth form the poorest Americans to the richest as well as eliminate places for people to live while foreign investors use our stable markets to do nothing more than park their money.

      • Trac

        It’s the middle class that’s getting diddled right now.

        • Sactowns#1

          What middle class?

          • Trac

            Exactly.

      • willbest

        What needs to be done is to figure out how to get people to think past Friday. I am still trying to figure out a good way to do that. I have tried futilely to explain it to a number of my people I was helping to break leases on. Good people that just don’t have a sense of money management. Not the poorest of the poor that would starve if they tried to put aside 10% of their paycheck.

        • Sactowns#1

          When 99% of the pie has already been eaten by others its tough to take that 1% sliver and make it last.

          • SC Dave

            You dont, evidently, understand economics

          • The GP
          • Irish Sweetness

            MWAH! Jesus GP, do you have a job?

          • willbest

            What does that even mean? So you agree to work for X dollars and right before you get your check somebody comes along and takes 99% of it?
            All I am saying is most people say I made X this week, and I am good because I only need X to pay my bills. Then shot happens and they don’t make X and all of a sudden they get into trouble. Most people don’t bother creating their own safety net, and if they did, their life would be far less interesting.

      • SC Dave

        No, federal spending by about $2 trillion.

      • Irish Sweetness

        1. Repeal the Federal Reserve Act.

        2. Repeal the Federal Reserve Act.

        3. Repeal the Federal Reserve Act.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Detroit. I’m not sure why Jim Caldwell is still the coach. Once he admitted to not playing for the Hail Mary, I wouldn’t have let him back into his office.”
    C’mon, of COURSE, you know why.

    It’s Detroit.

    Did you forget how long they held on to Matt Millen as GM?

    Before that, no one understood how Wayne Fontes stayed on as coach for so many seasons.

    • The GP

      Because the Ford family is really nice, and really stupid, and really know nothing about football.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I give you 3 out of 3 on that, GP.

        • The GP

          Clay Ford Junior knew to hire Alan Mulally to run Ford during the storm. He should figure out the Lions in his lifetime.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Like Ginnie.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “(9) Nine extra points missed Sunday. Eight missed last year. Kickers now far more important in the NFL. Who wanted that?”

    Have to admit, I think taking the “virtually automatic” out of the PAT was a good idea.

    • willbest

      How many games have been decided by that margin?

      • AlbertInTucson

        I don’t know the answer to that, Will.

    • Irish Sweetness

      SF missed one against us (blocked) that kept us in it. Hey, that was Eddie, right? Two sacks and a blocked XP. Nice. What’s up with him?

    • SC Dave

      And just this week the cunts whined about Robbie missing’ extra point’ fgs

  • BillW

    OK – so I guess I won’t be seeing Bennett Sunday for the last time live (as a Bear). I already have.

    Miller Time!

    • Doc Nitty

      Let’s send him and a box of Tradewind to Seattle for Jimmy Graham.

      • MB30SD

        good riddance to the asshat

        • The GP

          He is an asshat, but Khari Lee isn’t scaring anyone.

          • AlbertInTucson

            But the only folks Bennett was scaring lately was Bear fans.

          • MB30SD

            I get it, but having him not give a shit was worthless. Drops, not contesting catches, disappear, etc…

            no thanks.

            Also, almost doesn’t matter any more this year right?

          • SC Dave

            Zach!!

      • The GP

        Graham was my worst FF draft pick.

        Seattle had no fucking clue what made the guy successful as a Saint, and just ended up injuring him by making him play a style of TE he’s not good at.

    • chitownproud85

      My thoughts exactly. Definitely seems like a “lets just put this right over here…” type IR situation. Trying to get him off field and away from the team. His lack of give-a-shit has been pretty apparent for a while(right?). Right decision – has no place here going forward, and clearly stopped contributing.

    • AlbertInTucson

      More “Addition by subtraction”, perhaps?

      The defense got better when malcontent Ratliff departed.

      • CanadaBear

        I was actually surprised by that. I wonder if Rat was always that disturbed or he just went off?

      • Irish Sweetness

        And when Porter, Prosinski and Callahan came in.

  • The GP

    Looks like Girly Thor is making his first Pro Bowl

    • SC Dave

      Deservedly so, i might add.

  • The GP

    I’ve decided this is the needed accessory for a DBB tailgate party:

    We get a skeet 911, a grill, some brats and grey poupon, a case of Tradewind and several 2 liter bottles, and a keg of Schlitz, and nothing even vaguely Dick Cheney will occur.

    • Sactowns#1

      Schlitz?! Schlitz?!!!! Next you’re going to demand we listen to Rush while watching a Mike Meyers movie marathon. If I am going to drink crap beer that crap beer will be American!! (although in all honesty I would probably just drink water rather than swill some crappy pilsner made from rice)

      • AlbertInTucson

        “The Beer That Made Milwaukee Famous.”

        • SC Dave

          Aw fuck.. Hamms the beer refreshing

          • CanadaBear

            I’m from Milwaukee and I ought to know …

          • AlbertInTucson

            .. why Blatz brew tastes great, wherever you go.
            All Blatz is draft -brewed, that’s why you hear,
            Blatz is Milwukees FINEST Beer.”

            Blatz.

            As a kid, I loved the animated, singing, Can, Beer and Barrel

      • The GP

        Crank it

      • SC Dave

        This!!

    • Sactowns#1

      That guys Beretta over under was super nice though!!

      • The GP

        dude, it’s a 930 Targa with a SKEET MACHINE GRAFTED TO IT.

        But yes, the shotgun is nice too.

        • MB30SD

          hilarious. rich people with too much time on their hands?

      • MB30SD

        love that gun… and that style in general.

  • willbest

    Questions about the PAT worth looking into
    1) Has it affected the outcome of a game?
    2) Has it affected the outcome of the spread? VEGAS!!
    3) Has it affected any teams decisions to either kick FG or go for it on 4, go for 2, not go for 2, etc on future possessions?

    • SC Dave

      One would think the spread builds it in

      • willbest

        Well all the suckers (95% of the bettors) might not know how to factor that in or take into consideration without several years of evidence to support new “gut feelings” about how the game should play out. I suspect similar things happened with over-under lines when rules changed to protect QBs and defenseless receivers.

        • SC Dave

          Fair enough. More edge for the house.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’d be surprised if anyone was making a bet and they think “Well before the change, I would have backed X, but now I’d back Y.” … which would suggest it’s not a factor.

        What is a factor is having a kicker with the yips, and there’s no way I’d back the Bears right now with Robbie Fuckup in place.

        Has he been fired yet?

        • SC Dave

          Fire your ass from da blog instead.Seriously.

          • SC Dave

            BBut yeah.. fuck the Federal Reserve! Really

          • MB30SD

            Dude, dave. Dooood.

          • Johnnywad

            What the fuck Dave? Is Robbie your kid? Jesus. Relax.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Get that seen to, seriously. Before you hurt someone else.

            And bookies are my bitch.

    • AlbertInTucson

      The Steelers, Mike Tomlin, has gone for 2 early and fairly often.

      • Anonymous

        Tomlin is always chasing points — not a big fan of that strategy — though in fairness to him this year, they had a PK merry-go-round until mid-season (lost their regular PK for the season in preseason).

        • AlbertInTucson

          True. I believe they are on kicker #3.

  • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene
    • SC Dave

      Didnt even look, but you nailed.it.

      Where do decent people hide?

      • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

        There’s even more. wait until tomorrow.

    • Trac

      Why would this administration allow Muslims to enter this country using piss poor vetting but deny Christians trying to enter the US from the middle east? Hmm.

      http://cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/no-christians-all-132-syrian-refugees-admitted-us-paris-attacks-are

      • MB30SD

        Fuck em all? ; )

        • Trac

          Israel will always take you MB. You would dig rock n the Kasbar. Besides, you could meet a nice Jewish girl and get married again.

          • MB30SD

            not a war guy… except online.

          • MB30SD

            escared.

            not interested in marriage again… at this point at least. I like my life as a tomcat 4 out of 7 days a week. Case in point…

            Know what I did last night trac? Know how many orders I took? Know how much trash I took out (ok, I did this, but of my own volition), know how much shit I took?

            ZEEEEEEROOOOOOOO!!!

            DOOOOOOONNNNN’TTT CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARE!

          • Trac

            Hahaha. I got past that stage years ago.

  • BillW

    For those that may not remember (since I only detailed this 3 times) I made the following contention

    If the snap, the hold, and then blocking are fine. And if the weather conditions are not a factor, then one would expect an NFL quality kicker to hit from xp distance every time

    Each of those conditions are important to that contention and I was careful to state them each time

    And while I may be wrong or unfair I must say I don’t see where.

    You see, I don’t believe kickers randomly miss through no fault of their own. They miss because something goes wrong in their approach or leg swing. It should not be expected that an NFL kicker would have that go wrong at that distance if everything goes right with the snap etc

    Of course it happens (duh. We saw it) and the only answer I can think of is the pressure of the kick got to him. Which is not the expectation of a kick from that distance with perfect snap hold blocking weather.

    But I could be wrong. I don’t follow other teams and maybe I’m being unfair. So I’m open to hearing what I might be missing.

    • willbest

      Is Xanax a PED?

      • BillW

        I’m done. I think I’ve been misrepresented so I figure I had the right to restate myself. I have no problem being called wrong. Just want to be sure it’s based on what I actually said

        • willbest

          I was meaning perhaps he needs to have the edge taken off. For Gould the second kick was more than just make and win, miss and go to OT. It carried with it the weight from the first miss, and the fact that he hasn’t been all that consistent since the bye.

          Crosby had a bad year a couple years back. GB toughed it out and he bounced back. Can Gould do that? I don’t know. He turns 34 in a couple weeks, which isn’t old for a kicker.

        • Trac

          weird response to Will. Just sayin.

          • MB30SD

            Please don’t get me started. I’ve been doing my very very very best.

            Wtf have you been btw?

          • Trac

            Moving my daughter to Austin. I’m jealous.

          • MB30SD

            excellent. yeah, austin is the shizz

    • Irish Sweetness

      Maybe he was worried about Cutty’s brother-in-law.

      If they persist with him and put it down to a ‘bad year’, then so be it. But it will cost us games, and this year that will mean no playoffs. Minny have a tough schedule, we don’t, but those games will all take being at our best – and that means making FGs.

    • Johnnywad

      Phil Mickelson misses four foot putts too. Kicking a 36 yard field goal, while pretty damn routine for an NFL kicker, is still a difficult thing for a human to accomplish. Try it once. It’s far harder than I would have imagined.

      You just have to remember these guys aren’t robots. We’d like them to be, but the potential for human error is not removed just because they’re the best there is. Or in other words “shit happens”.

      • MB30SD

        Pay me $6M fucking dollars this year and have me kick 50 (or however many) a day for the last 15-20 years of my life and I’ll make that fucking kick.

        ….are we breaking up?!?!

        • Johnnywad

          I can’t quit you…..

          • MB30SD

            Hahaha

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        Mickelson usually has more opportunities to make up that missed putt, we are paying someone a lot of money to make 3 or 4 field goals a week. anything under 50 should be close to automatic He has missed 5 under 50 already this year, 4 FG and 1 extra point. 13 missed points costing us 2 games. on a team that desperately needs points and wins,

        • Johnnywad

          Completely agree. I’m addressing Bill’s larger point. Just because he’s a professional, and he practices and gets paid a shitload of money, doesn’t mean it should be automatic. Obviously it isn’t. Even in what has been a shitty season by his standards, he’s still ranked 19th in the NFL, which is the same thing as saying for the last 3 months, he’s the 19th best kicker in the world. They all miss on occasion. Robbie’s problem is he’s losing games by it. It’s a really bad look.

          I’m just saying this shit ain’t easy. I don’t really give a shit if they replace him. Kickers and punters have to be the easiest “starter”on the roster to replace. I’ll only be pissed if they use a draft pick doing it.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            agreed not easy at all. and you are right Kickers and punters are easy to replace. remember we picked up Gould during the season when our kicker got hurt.

          • Johnnywad

            I saw Robbie’s first game. It was at Cleveland. He was working construction the week before.

            Bears had the lead in a close game until the very end. Cost me a steak dinner.

            It was also the famous Mike Brown “We Suck” game.

  • willbest

    Somebody had mentioned Touchbacks… The Bears are pretty bad.

    46% of Bears kickoffs are touchbacks that puts them 26th. For comparison the top 16 teams are all over 57%, with the top 6 teams all being over 67%. Last place is Jets at 38%. Incidentally this is an improvement over last year when the Bears averaged 37%.

    Some caveats.
    1) I recall last year that the Bears spent some time purposefully kicking to make them returnable
    2) Gould was put on IR with some games left and there was a second kicker
    3) We haven’t done the cold weather games yet, to what extent that affects it I don’t know
    4) eyeballing the list dome does seem to help but is not controlling (Houston 43%, Ravens 89%)

    As for why you feel he is not making them of late.. Over the last 3 games Gould is getting TB on 20% of KOs. Also of note, the Bears are averaging 30% TB on KOs at home, but 63% on the road. I would say that perhaps Lake Michigan is having a bit of an affect but opponents are getting TB on KO at Soldier field 54% of the time.

    • Anonymous

      Good stuff. In terms of the Ravens, they arguably have the best PK in the game in Tucker so not a huge surprise they would be high on the touchbacks list.

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