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Across The Middle With Andrew Dannehy

| December 2nd, 2015

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• The Bears should have been running into a buzz saw. The Packers seemed to right whatever was wrong with them four days earlier, the weather conditions suited them perfectly and it was a night in which they honored one of the greatest players in their franchise’s history. Shit, Ron Wolf even referred to the field they were playing on as the house that Favre built. At no point did I think the Bears were going to win until about five seconds after — waiting for a flag — Aaron Rodgers’ fourth down pass hit the ground. How sweet it is.

• This wasn’t just a win for the Bears and it wasn’t just a loss for the Packers. The times are a changin’ in the NFC North and both teams know it.

• One sign that this was possible heading into the game was how much the Packers players were complaining about having to play on four days. Their offensive linemen were bitching about it, while Matt Slauson said he was looking forward to it. The Bears aren’t anywhere near as talented as the Packers but they’re tougher because John Fox is their coach.

• Outside of the game itself, the best thing I saw last week was Fox dancing with his players in the locker room. That said, it makes me a little worried that they celebrated this win too hard. How many times have we seen a team come off of a big win and then suffer a big loss the next week?

• The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel’s Bob McGinn spoke to scouts who noted the differences in Cutler from the past and this year, but I still don’t buy it. One scout made a great point about Cutler holding onto the ball with both hands in the pocket, but that’s really the biggest difference. He was always difficult to sack. Jared Allen even once said he was the most difficult quarterback for him to sack. Is his play really that different from what we saw in 2013? Keep in mind that a handful of his interceptions came off of deflected passes that year. Go back and watch in 2011 and most of 2010. He really isn’t that drastically different.

In another piece, an assistant coach McGinn spoke to said the Bears offensive line is “from tackle to tackle, physical as hell”.

• While NBC tabbed them as their Players of the Game, I didn’t think Jay Cutler or Tracy Porter played particularly great. They were both good, no question about that, but both had flaws. Porter was two dropped passes away from giving up two touchdowns. Cutler had one interception dropped and a few more close passes. They both made big plays when they needed to, but I thought both were better against Denver.

This Still Doesn’t Make Sense

Eddie Lacy and James Starks combined to average about 6.3 yards per carry, but only had 23 rushes. Meanwhile, they averaged just 4.5 yards per pass attempt (counting sacks and runs by Rodgers), but attempted to throw the ball 49 times.

The Bears couldn’t match the Packers physicality up front, but, for some reason, the Packers didn’t ask them to. It is truly puzzling. Rodgers went into the final drive with 137 passing yards. He also had one interception and could’ve easily had three if not for a bad call and Bryce Callahan letting another go through his hands.

Player of the Week

Chris Prosinski. Prosinski made three plays that likely changed the outcome of the game. The biggest one that people have pointed to was the forced fumble, coming from behind Lacy to knock the ball free. The Bears then scored the tying touchdown.

On the Packers next possession, it looked like James Starks was going to have an easy touchdown on a screen pass as Prosinski had to beat two Packers linemen to make the tackle. And then he did just that.

On Tracy Porter’s interception, Prosinski merely got in the way and it was genius. At first glance, I thought it was an accident, but on the replay you can clearly see Prosinski change his direction, taking a step to the side and into Davante Adams’ way. The second part of that was that Prosinski got out of Adams’ way, avoiding contact for a penalty that would’ve wiped the interception out. All Porter had to do was catch the ball.

Goat of the Week

Mike McCarthy. He’s been mostly avoiding blame for the play calling, but it was his choice to give up that duty and the Packers are worse off. But that isn’t even his biggest problem. It appears he is losing the locker room and that kind of loss is a big hit.

I believe it was Bill Walsh who said that no coach should stay in one place too long because the team tunes them out. McCarthy likes to act like a tough guy and wants a tough team, but he doesn’t have it. The veterans, many of whom started on their Super Bowl team, don’t want to play on short weeks and don’t like getting hit in the mouth. Packers blogger Aaron Nagler said it best:

When it became a fight, the Packers were done. That’s a reflection on their coach. McCarthy is a good coach, but it might be time for him to move on.

Bold Prediction for Week 13

The Bears defense takes another huge step in the right direction, intercepting Blaine Gabbert three times in a shutout win.

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  • chitownproud85

    Bold Prediction for this Week – the Bears win this week at home and move to .500

    • willbest

      Is that really a bold prediction when San Fran is averaging something like 14 points a game, and the Bears aren’t allowing more than 20 points per game?

      • the Bears are 7 point favorites. That’s not bold at all.

        • chitownproud85

          Sarcasm folks. Was being facetious.

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Sarcasm”. Just another FREE service this Blog provides.

      • chitownproud85

        They are still only 5-6. 5-6 folks. Not 10-1. 5-6. More losses than wins. Lets have them get to .500 and win a home game or two and then we can start analysing why they have won games before they have been played. To predict that a team that loses more than it wins will win could be considered bold, but I feel like a lot of us keep ignoring that fact lol

  • The GP

    I’m not on the Porter wagon either. He makes plays and he’s savvy, but he can get beat deep. He’s not a complete corner, but against a guy like Jones he’s good.

    Bushrod is sidelined against Leno. Who saw that coming? Bushrod wants back on the field, and can’t get there. After watching Leno play right guard, if you told me he would be a stonewall LT I would have laughed. But look what he did.

    • willbest

      We were talking about how apparently an offensive lineman can have a side left or right earlier in the season. And that it is generally easier for a player to move from RG to RT than it is to move from RG to LG. Apparently Leno is a left side player.
      As such, the calls to move Long to LT might be a bit premature. He was an all pro RG, and he is on his way to being a pro-bowl RT. But it remains to be seen if he can transition to the left side.

      • The GP

        Trying to make Kyle Long into Bruce Mattthews can go too far. By his own admission, he was in the deep end of the pool being thrown out at RT. He said his kick step sucked and often he didn’t know when he should pull or what he was doing the first two games.

        If he finished his career at RT, he’d be the best we had since Big Cat. And I am fine with that

        • Traditionally, the right side is the power run side too, which suites Long. We get a road grading RG and our run game will be a force

    • i’m on the Porter wagon until something better comes along. and i’m definitely not in the “pay the man!” camp. we learned that lesson with timothy r. jenningstein.

      • chitownproud85

        Logic and reason. +10

    • Irish Sweetness

      Tayo is a man-mover. He deserves his shot at RG. That would be a line.

      • The GP

        They let your boy Mitchell go. 3 weeks ago.

    • BearDown100393

      Porter has tremendous awareness.

    • chitownproud85

      I’m on the bandwagon of a player that is better than the other players at a particular position on the particular roster he is on. When there is someone better than said person on the roster, I will remove myself from the “bandwagon”. Hes the best corner on the team, so it would probably be prudent to keep him until he isnt the best corner on the team.

    • Jokey

      I was looking at cap hits and noticed Bushrod is 84th overall (3rd on team after Cutler, Forte) at 8M this year.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Leno showed NOTHING in pre-season that would have predicted his current status.

  • MB30SD

    Dave! Your boy prosi!

    I like porter. Let’s keep him around andrew.

    This offseason :
    1. Imlb X 2 (one first pick, one FA)
    2. DL
    3. Cb and or more safeties

    …and oline, always oline.

    Ps. Can we pafuckinglease get some WRs healthy!

    • Your thoughts on Prosinski? He sounds Polish, which certainly plays well with the Chicago market. But he’s white and he plays safety. You ok with this?

      • MB30SD

        Ev, he can be rainbow colored… as long as he’s actually worth a shit, I’m all in.

        that said, he seems to be progressing to a nice #2 option behind the total stud we get this offseason. I’m hoping fangio brings Reid home with him this weekend.

        Can we keep him dad?!?

      • Jokey

        lol yeah there was someone who had a no white safeties rule but was it MB?

        • he’s the blog’s biggest Conte fan, and he still sings the praises of Harding..

    • Sactowns#1

      I think Royal is gone this off season. Save yourself $4mil in cap space and get another who can play at least half the season.

      • willbest

        Royal’s entire salary next year is guaranteed. He will be here.

        • MB30SD

          oh. I like the dude, he just needs to get on, and stay on, the field. He’s a weapon.

        • Sactowns#1

          Damn it. Why would we do that? Oh well.

      • MB30SD

        I’m down.

        Sup dawg?

    • Ososfan

      We need more O-line help, I believe. Getting blitz by the Damn secondary on every god Damn third down was embarrassing.

  • Scharfinator

    “The Bears aren’t anywhere near as talented as the Packers but they’re tougher because John Fox is their coach.”

    BOOO HISSSSS. The Pack lacks a lot of talent, Erin is just having trouble covering it up now.

    • MB30SD

      Look at… you!

      Asking fo evidence and shit. Fox mulder!

      • Scharfinator

        I just love to see Bears making good plays 🙂

        • MB30SD

          Glutton

    • BillW

      Absolutely. Packer talent overrated due to the Rodgers factor. The fact that even he can’t lift the offense shows how bad they are

      They need to be a running ball control team but are too arrogant to admit it

    • Jokey
      • Sactowns#1

        No longer available.

        • Jokey

          It’s still there, I just checked. The title of the video doesn’t match the title of the article, the video is called “Do teams have a blueprint for beating Packers?”

      • Scharfinator

        No, not the screen on the pick, I’m talking about beating two lineman on a screen. Someone else posted an article with pictures further down, so no worries.

  • BillW

    I pointed out out how the Packers feel Rodgers has to be the hero. Said it to a Packer fan during the game. (Of course he almost was)

    Packer fans on Milwaukee Journal comment boards said the same thing. Bears couldn’t stop the run so McCarthy did it for them

    Detroits prep is focused more on Lacy than Rodgers

    Now Rodgers is publicly calling out teammates. Somehow I don’t think self centered young players who apparently aren’t dedicated are suddenly going to say “gee, Dad. I never thought about it that way.”

    Packers had a great run but seriously it’s over. They can’t pencil in a North title anymore and next year they may even have a losing record in the division

    Maybe even this year

  • MB30SD

    Love this kid: http://es.pn/1OuzI3s

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Yeah when I got my phone alert from espn app and that popped up, I said aloud to no one, “Only fuckin’ ESPN would drop anyone in rankings for beating the Packers!”….someone must have lost a bet and was wearing all Bears gear to work, pissed off and butt-hurt.

  • MB30SD

    Hey NB, you know Hanukkah is coming up (just sayin’): http://www.tipsyelves.com/mens-hanukkah-onesie

  • I don’t worry much about celebrating the win too hard because they had so long between games. Celebrate on Thursday, take the weekend off, and then it’s back to business on Monday.

    • Irish Sweetness

      It’s Tayo time. Right guard. Unrein in at FB. Done.

      • There’s a reason the coaches don’t have Tayo active for any games: they know he’s nowhere close to ready. He’s a very raw project. Let’s see what he looks like in training camp next year.

        • I wonder if it’s conditioning, toughness, .intelligence?
          To me, he looked good on college tape. If we get booted off contention, no reason why we shouldn’t give him a start or two

        • Ososfan

          Forgot about Tayo! Yes strong but need to lose the weight and take more advantage of his athleticism. Can’t wait for his progress next year.

          • He’s huge, but has remarkable feet for a big man.

            Last time I saw feet like that on a big boy was probably the Bus.

  • “an assistant coach McGinn spoke to said the Bears offensive line is “from tackle to tackle, physical as hell”.”

    That’s weird, because usually really physical OLs are good at run blocking, and the Bears are TERRIBLE at run blocking.

    • chitownproud85

      This. They might be physical, but all that physicality is resulting in them standing in place, not moving forward. At least, not much.

      • We need an Olin type at RG.

        Long is tough, but he’s more fun loving, kinda like Gronk.
        Slauson LOOKS mean, but who knows?
        Leno looks like a dancing bear, and Grassu is still an unknown.

        We need an enforcer in there, and RG is the perfect place for it.

  • willbest

    Two hands on the ball? Unless that is some how throwing off the DBs isn’t doing anything for ball security.
    Cutler Stats this year (average as a Bear)
    Fumbles – 0.6 per game (average 0.62)
    INT – 0.6 per game (average 1.1)
    sacked – 1.5 per game (average 2.4)
    Sack yards loss per game – 7.1 (average 15.2)

    So he is still losing the ball as much as he ever did despite being sacked considerably less. He is taking a lot better sacks this year and he is making better decisions on his throws.

    • BillW

      We hear people talk about him moving better in the pocket. I think that shows in sack yards lost as well as number of sacks. He did run backwards into a sack against GB and that seemed odd time because that’s something he for the most part has avoided. The numbers show that.

      I wonder where the fumbles per game are compared to other starting QBs.

      What’s interesting is 1.5 sacks along with 0.6 fumbles. Since most (but not all) QB fumbles occur when being sacked, that’s a likely a very high percentage of fumbling when being sacked.

      (I assume that’s fumbles lost – or is it just fumbles?)

      • willbest

        That is all fumbles. I think he has only lost 2 this year. I didn’t immediately find fumbles lost

        • BillW

          Still a high percent of fumbling when being sacked.

    • Johnnywad

      He’s not losing the ball as much as ever. Your own stats say he’s throwing about half as many INT per game. That’s a pretty big jump in my book.

      • willbest

        Sure but what does interceptions have to do with how he holds the ball? They aren’t claiming his throwing motion is better, just that he keeps the second hand on the ball.

        • Johnnywad

          Not a damn thing as far as I know.

    • The biggest difference i see is his pocket presence and decision making.
      Not so sure about his fumbling improving but not seeing him dangle the football on his hip makes me feel better. Plus, a defender can strip the ball w out a sack, i think, .and i remember in the past Cutler had a few of those where the d swatted it off his hand while hevwas oblivious

      • BillW

        Although Wiki has let me down a few times lately, here is what they say:

        “A sack is also credited when a defender causes the quarterback to fumble and the ball is behind or at the line of scrimmage; this is also known as a strip sack.”

        Earlier it says: “(when the qb) is tackled behind the line of scrimmage before he can throw a forward pass, when the quarterback is tackled behind the line of scrimmage in the “pocket” and his intent is unclear, or when a passer runs out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage due to defensive pressure”

        So from that I read that unless it’s obvious the QB intended to run all along and then fumbled, any fumble by a QB behind the line will be credited as a sack as well as a fumble.

        So going back to what I said before – 0.6 divided by 1.5 is fumbling 40% of all sacks. Probably less since not all fumbles come from him passing but most do so it’s likely at least 1 out of 3. That’s pretty high.

  • willbest

    In fairness, if you remove Lacy’s 30 yard run, the YPC drops to something like 4.5. And they had plenty of drives where they were committing regularly to the run, but ended up getting penalties that forced the pass or the bears stopped the run cold putting them into passing situations. And then on the last drive they didn’t really have the option to run. But yeah early in the game when the Bears offense was passing around not doing anything, that would have been quality time to chew clock and control the game.

    I don’t think the Packers are going to all of a Sudden be Detroit, but its clear they can’t pencil in 5+ wins a season against their division like they are used to. Incidentally, it doesn’t look like the Colts are going to be able to do that either. And keep in mind, Rodgers gets Nelson back next year. Sure Devante Adams sucks and Robb clearly isn’t the #1A they are paying him to be. But that is still going to be a dangerous offense next year.

    • BillW

      The absence of Nelson is in fact a major reason. The drop off I guess is much steeper than anyone thought due to the apparent fallacy that Rodgers can make any receiver look great.

      Every receiver is being covered by a better secondary player than they would have been had Jordy been playing.

      Of course, we seem to be doing OK without BMarsh as a number 1 and with Wilson as number two and Bellamy/Mariani as a 3.

      • willbest

        Wilson, Bennett, and Langford have those drops that make you scream too. Difference is Cutler isn’t going to throw 6 times in a row unless they are running the 2-minute offense and on the whole we don’t ask too much of those guys.

        • BillW

          And our record over the last 5 is much better than GB.

          I hope McCarthy and whoever now calls plays continues to stubbornly ignore the obvious solution. I want to see them finish in second place. Or in a pleasant dream, third.

  • BillW

    Couple quick thoughts –
    Andrew correctly say the times are a changing in the NFCN, and both teams know it. Actually all FOUR teams know it. Packers lost TWO home games to NFCN teams and could lose the third. Streaks end – and once they do they take a long time to start up again. Lions snapped their Lambeau streak and Jay his as well.

    Jeff in his tweets talks about Thompson needing to take blame for the roster. You don’t have to tell Packer fans that – at least not the ones on the Milwaukee Journal comment boards. BIG criticism to him for not doing a better job. One frequent example – not getting e TE while the Bears got Zack Miller.

    Times changing indeed. We figured it would with this new regime; fans of the Packers see it too.

    • BillW

      I haven’t had time to check this but I read the Packers called over 20 pass plays in a row from sometime in the 4th to the end of the game. That I think includes plays with penalties and runs by Rodgers. So they don’t all show up that way in the stats. But with the game on the line and time running out every single call was a pass. Over 20 of them in a row.

      Is Trestman advising them?

      • willbest

        Their 4th quarter offensive plays were
        Drive 1
        3 Lacy runs, followed by 5 passing plays
        Drive 2
        4 passing plays (stopped by a timely INT since they were moving)
        Drive 3 (less than 3 minutes to play)
        3 passing plays, Starks run, 9 passing plays
        So 20 of their last 21 players were pass plays, but not 20 in a row. Just 12 and 9

        • BillW

          Thanks will. 20 out of 21 and I assume Lacy was on the bench for most if not all.

      • In one sense, it’s logical. Give it to ur best player Vadgers.
        But on the other hand, they were avg 6 yds per carry, and running the ball
        always helps out the pass esp in those conditions.
        McFatty fucks up again

        • Lacy, not Rodgers, was GB’s best player last Thanksgiving.

          Amazing what happens when you give a fatty a chance to win a turkey leg by playing well.

          • BillW

            “Amazing what happens when you give a fatty a chance to win a turkey leg by playing well.”

            Wow – never saw a smarmy comment like that coming from you!

          • AlbertInTucson

            A lost fumble that leads to an opponent’s TD takes a LOT of the shine off of a 100+ yard night.

          • And? Rodgers threw an INT, had another negated by a BS penalty, and had 2-3 more that defenders had their hands on.

          • AlbertInTucson

            For sure, Rodgers had a forgettable evening, but it was Lacy’s careless fumble the turned that game. The Bears had done zilch before they took advantage of that opportunity.

  • CanadaBear

    I think we might be a bit hasty burying the Fudge. They have a good OL, Erin, Nelson, Fat Eddy, Pep, the hairy steroid freak and their back end is better than the Bears. The Bears have better coaches but not better players. I do think the arrow is pointing up for the Bears and flat or slightly pointing down for the Fudge. I think each game from here on out will be a dogfight but the Bears at least will be in position to win the games (which is more than we could say the last few years).

    • BillW

      Very fair point. The big difference in my mind is the division is not a gimme in future years (or this one). They can’t fatten up their record with NFCN wins. They have to fight harder, may never get home field advantage in the first playoff game again with Rodgers, and while it may be unfair to say this – it seems Rodgers doesn’t do well in circumstances like that I’ve described.

      Unfair – yes. Since his only SB year came when they had to win I think 6 road games in a row to get there. But the next year they had a monster record and lost in the playoffs. And his 4th quarter comeback record is dismal. They have real weaknesses and the mystique has been shattered.

      Do they have a tenacious fighting attitude to rise above it in the years to come? I really don’t see it.

      • willbest

        Well the year they one, they went on the road 3 times with something like 15 people on IR. But I do think the last couple years have made them soft.

    • They have a semi tough schedule tho: Lions, Raiders, Cards, Vikings

  • BillW

    Can’t wait to hear what injury Alshon has this week.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Shutout. I like it. The call of the Bear.

  • Our run D will def be tested. 9ers saw the tape and aren’t gonna make the same mistake.Draugn played every single snap last wk. Also, Gabbert can escape the pocket and make some plays. Who knew? His fav target is Boldin but TE McDonald is a close 2nd.
    They lack explosiveness, but are physical.
    This will be a good chin strap test for our boys

    • BillW

      I found the point differential on the road for the 49ers interesting. Perhaps says something about it being difficult to be up for a game on the road? Team chemistry issues? Time difference? (10AM game for their body clocks).

      What I hope for is a wild crowd given it’s their first game back after beating GB. There won’t be many 49er fans there at all. Andrew may be very close in his bold prediction of a shutout.

      • But how many of those road losses were w Kap?
        They’re a totally diff team w Gabbert. He can actually make reads and hit WRs, and that has made them believe.
        If it wasn’t for penalties, they’d have beaten the Cards.
        Still, we should beat them. We beat a team mostv thought we’d lose to, now let’s hope we don’t play down to our competition

        • BillW

          Good point – forgot that Kap was actually playing this year.

          BTW – hope you have a good avatar picked out for when they hit 500!

          • Marcel Marceau demands a 500 team.

            I think I have 1 or 2 avis in mind that are kinda fitting and funny.

          • BillW

            Ask and you will receive!

            (Oh wait – he’s a mime; he can’t ask)

  • The GP

    Last night Briggs was on the wavez with Holmes.

    Briggs is a weird cat.

    Anyhow, he slammed the Cryptkeeper pretty good. Holmes kept egging him on, but then Briggs told this story about the water bottles. Did anyone else hear that story? Otherwise I can convey it here.

    • Convey

      • The GP

        Briggs said that Cryptkeeper’s micromanagement went down to water bottles. He set up a trash and recycling bin in the meeting rooms.

        If you threw plastic bottles into the trash, he would stop EVERYONE – stop the whole crowd on their feet – and make that player pick that bottle out of the trash and put it in recycling.

        Briggs said that players resented being treated that way. He also reiterated that he had never been on a team with as many fightfights and locker room brawls as that one – and that Trestman would leave or walk to the other side of the field and let the player captains sort fights out – so Briggs ended up having to sort fights out on D. And that, in the NFL, the HC is really there to lead and sort egos out and that Trestman just wouldn’t do it.

        So, he said, the team adopted his character. People stopped being willing to do any leadership because the top wouldn’t.

        • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

          cool that Charles is going to school. He seems like a great guy.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Student Pussy.

        • willbest

          Tillman plans to go to law school? You know that isn’t a bad option for an athlete that has spent a lot of their time building a social network (assuming they can pass the bar). There are a ton of lawyers that will grind out the boring paperwork. The real value in law these days is marketing. He could be looking at a mid 6-figure paycheck for the next 20 years.

          • Sactowns#1

            Dudes my hero for sure.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            His motto should be “Tillman and Law: Peanut Punching your way to victory in the courtroom!”

          • burntorangenavyblue

            In his future commercial, it should have the losing side cry, “But they were who we thought they were!”

          • BillW

            “We had the case won, and we let ’em off the hook!”

          • Scharfinator

            Tillman strikes me as a guy who still wants to make a positive impact after football, rather than get a cheap retirement job.

          • Trac

            Tillman pining to be an agent? He’s got the smarts and I’m sure his personality will endear home to a lot of NFL and college players. He’d do well.

        • Scharfinator

          Anyone got a link to the interview? Would love to give it a listen.

        • Jesus. They should’ve got a hold of Emery at a “Cognitive dissonance and synergy” conference.

          Trestman might be the last nerd to be hired as an HC in a while. He has set nerds back 40 years, after all they have overcome.

          How the FUCK does Tresty get picked over Arians?

          Peanut might be depressed cuz I think he was put on IR recently, no? Sux. I was pulling for the Panthers cuz of him and Chico, though I’m still kinda rooting for them for Chico.

          • Irish Sweetness

            “How the FUCK does Tresty get picked over Arians?”

            Freemasonry. That’s all I got.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          I dunno, Briggs was a drama king before Tressy arrived, and ex-players out of the league tend to blow steam and say hyperbole stuff to the media to get attention. Briggs’ attitude for a long time makes me doubt that he was the one “breaking ” up the fights, really. The waterbottle stuff? Daily fights? Weird shit like that would not be hidden from the media and then magically appear in details when an ex-player decides to talk about it 2 years later. Tressy is a scrub, but Briggs wasn’t exactly a stellar model to follow before the Cryptkeeper years.

        • BillW

          This from a “leader” who asked permission for time off so he could open a restaurant. Knowing full well Trestman would be too weak to say no.

          “People stopped being willing to do any leadership because the top wouldn’t.”

          Sounds pretty lame. I agree Trestman was horrible but would Butkus say “I stopped being a leader because the HC wouldn’t lead?” Or Buffone? Or O’B?

          Enjoy your paving company and restaurants Lance. I wish someone else was on the Comcast postgame. I don’t have any interest in hearing what you have to say.

        • CanadaBear

          Unlike some of the posters here, I’ve always liked Briggs. The Lambo story never bothered me or the bitching about money. Even the story about missing a walk through was much ado about nothing. He was done for sure but he brought a toughness to the D. Just ask Megatron!

          • BillW

            I liked him as a player too. But he seemed to me to be a step or two below what a guy like him could have been from a leadership point of view. Not everyone is cut out for that I realize.

            There was never any one thing that Trestman did that I thought was a big deal. Not even the rotating captain thing in concept. They all were symptoms of the actual issue though. To me, the fact Lance even asked to be excused was a symptom as well.

            It was as if he was saying to the city – “we can and will walk all over this guy.”

          • Irish Sweetness

            But we can’t blame Tresticles for being himself. Emery hired the fucker. Emery hired a koombaya camp dick.

          • Dude said he’d never wear a Bears uniform again, then took the $.

            I never liked him. Like I said, I see him as a good merc and nothing more.

            It’s like being a Revis fan. What’s there to like except his bank account?

          • CanadaBear

            Maybe because he played for the Bears for 12 years and was in the pro bowl for over half those years.

          • Solid merc, no argument there.

          • Johnnywad

            I’ve always wondered if he would have been able to put that career together without Lach. My gut says no. He was talented for sure, but I think playing next to Lach moved him from above average to perennial pro bowler.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Fucking A.

          • Irish Sweetness

            You call it in, I don’t care what your previous contribution was, you’re a whore. Devin was the GOAT? Don’t care. Whore. Briggs, ditto.

            Urlacher never phoned it in. Payton. MBearsss.

    • BillW

      Yes please

  • BillW

    Prosinski love!

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-bears-packers-chris-prosinski-20151202-story.html

    I suggest taking the time to read this. My favorite line:

    “The next picture undoubtedly will rile folks in the Packers meeting rooms this week.”

    Indeed. A sure touchdown for Starks thwarted by our latest hero.

    • Who’s the writer? Have to go through twitter to jump the paywall.

      • Rich Campbell. You can get around that paywall by Googling the article Title with Chicago Tribune on the end and then clicking the link from Google.

        So Google this:

        Inside the Game: Breaking down Chris Prosinski’s touchdown-saving tackle vs. Packers Chicago Tribune

        • Ah, cool. Didn’t know that. Thanks.

          I usually just hit the twitter for the articles. I guess I have to follow Campbell. He aint shabby. I follow a few dudes like Hub, Moon, Biggs, etc. I’ll put Campbell on the short list.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Information score! Thx Woodsy.

  • BTW, here’s a story about Briggs’ appearance GP brought up below, with quotes and the full audio

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/12/02/lance-briggs-on-bears-2014-infighting-marc-trestman-would-pretend-like-he-didnt-see-anything/#.Vl83KucrjE4.twitter

    • listening through the audio now, just got to the Trestman part.

      Briggs takes a long time to start talking about his feelings about Trestman. He clearly was trying to avoid saying what he really thought, but he still ripped him pretty good once he got going.

      I’d love to hear Briggs’ honest take on Trestman after a few beers.

      • The GP

        there you go Bill, there’s your link

  • Around the league.

    The Miami Herald’s Barry Jackson reports the Dolphins “have interest” in Saints coach Sean Payton, Bengals OC Hue Jackson, and UCLA coach Jim Mora for their head-coaching vacancy.

    Payton is reportedly seriously considering leaving the Saints at season’s end amid the legal drama with the team’s ownership situation. Once/if he does depart, there will be no shortage
    of suitors lining up to talk to him after he and Drew Brees pulled the Saints out of the gutter post-Hurricane Katrina. Hue Jackson also figures to be very likely to land a head-coaching gig, while Mora has long been mentioned among NFL circles after spending the past four years at UCLA. – Roto.

    Why Mora? is he a recycled coach?

    Payton in MIA would be interesting. Can he salvage Tannenhill? How would he fare vs Bill twice a year?

    I guess Hue Jackson is making a name for himself, and will be ahead of Gase on most GM lists, esp if he actually wins a playoff.

  • OK, so I posted this poll in Da FF Blog League, and I’m curious who you guys would vote for.

    “Who has impressed you most in 2015 (besides Cutty)?”

    Long
    Leno
    McPhee
    Amos
    Langford
    Shea
    Porter
    Alshon
    Miller

    (or write-in candidate).

    • Long. 2015 is still about long term, and Long solidifying himself as an elite OT (IMO he’s been one of the 4-5 best OTs in the NFL since about week 4) is still the best long-term thing that’s happened to the Bears this year.

      Amos is a close 2nd.

      • It’s crazy we do have many contenders (and if Prosinki keeps balling, put him to the list).

        McPhee is NOT an FA bust as many have feared (including moi), and might be a bargain esp considering what he brings in intangibles.

        Langford has shown he can be a franchise HB (durability is always concern with young backs).

        Leno looking like a shit OG then a stud LT is a revelation (we were talking about drafting a LT in the first round early on).

        The fact that Shea is not only still on the team, but actually starting and calling the D is a minor miracle.

        Amos has been good and is only improving.

        etc etc…lots to like about these teams who seem to be overachieving, which is a sign of great coaching.

        • when did Long ever play OG? He sucked at RT in the preseason.

          • BillW

            JWood – your fingers are not typing what your brain is telling them to!

            You mean Leno, not Long,

            Like you meant baseball, not football.

            Hope when you predict the Bears to win, you don’t mean SF!

          • dammit again. Fixed again.

          • Leno at RT I mean. Like you meant Leno, not Long.

          • BillW

            I just think everyone has the hiccups today.

        • Irish Sweetness

          There is clearly a broken link in the chain of the OL and it has to be RG, no? Our average YPC is not good, and I see no reason for not placing man-mountain, Tayo Fabulous in at RG.

    • 505Bears

      Mariani….haha, just kidding

    • BillW

      OK – so naturally you mean players; coaches not eligible.

      I’m inclined to go defense because my expectations were lower there.

      And while the sample size is still too small, and there is a possibility of a 2nd year slump like Fuller, I want to credit Pace’s draft vs FA (McPhee).

      So my vote is for Amos.

    • Sactowns#1

      Oh come on. Every single person has to vote for Miller. Not a single one of us thought he would score a single TD let alone 4TD’s in 5 games. Hands down Miller. No poll needed.

      • Big Mike

        based on expectatsion, Miller might be right. But he was basically an unknown. I am stunned by Porter’s play.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I was looking forward to Miller this year I have to say. He’s always had hands.

        I’m surprised Langford is as good as he is. Porter is a superbowl hero, but I thought he might have been washed up.

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

      I can’t vote for just one. I have to go with Long, Leno and Miller. Each one is an improbably story and each one is getting better every game.

  • Rumors are that pitcher Jeff Szamardija is looking at a deal in the neighborhood of 5 years, $100 million, all fully guaranteed.

    That’s more guaranteed money than any NFL player in history has gotten.

    Jeff Szamardija was not only not good last year, he was one of the worst starting pitchers in baseball.

    I continue to not understand why anybody good at both football and baseball chooses to pursue a career in football, assuming their career prospects are roughly the same in each sport. Football pays much better, allows for longer careers, and is much better on your body.

    • BillW

      You mean baseball pays better etc

    • willbest

      Better pussy? Certainly in high school and college.
      More glory? That is for certain. Football is the most watched and talked about sport. Fewer plays, fewer games, more opportunities for individual impact.
      Better endorsements? Perhaps… That is basketball, but then its easier to be the face of the franchise when people can actually see your face.
      Less competition? Another certainty. There are fewer roster spots in the majors where the big money is and as you have pointed out, they are occupied longer.
      I think even the initial money is even better in the NFL than MLB but I haven’t dived too much into that.

      • MLB has 25 roster spots x 30 teams…. but there’s also minor leagues, so the potential for some sort of career is greater in baseball, and fringe guys can’t get cut/signed all the team for no guaranteed money, so it’s better.

        • willbest

          Yeah but you don’t make any real money in the minors… string you along for a decade pulling down 20-30k a year waiting for your chance.

          • the higher level minor leagues guys do ok. So if you can make it to AAA, you’re doing well. Which basically doubles the league size.

          • willbest

            I looked into it a bit, but am by no means an expert. In triple A the min is $2150 per month for 5 months, plus $25 per road day. Players that are drafted by MLB teams will then get signing bonuses to tide them over while they make nothing in the minors. Min Salary in the majors is around $500k.

            A player that gets out of his initial contract (6 years appear industry standard) can then negotiate a better deal and can command more money in the minor league system.

    • BearDown100393

      $ guaranteed in baseball. CBA stronger for the players. It is a “no brainer” decision……..

  • BillW

    Alshon Jeffry sat out practice today with a bad case of hiccups.

    • The GP

      Alshon’s new nickname is Triumph.

      A Triumph bike will not run unless it is 100% sorted. Otherwise it will break down.

    • Big Mike

      As funny as this is, I am not pleased. Because for the first 8 words of that sentence I was building up to a “I hate that guy”.

      • BillW

        In asking why he sat out, Alshon replied:
        If I’m hiccuping I might line up beyond the line of scrimmage,

  • BillW

    Sounds way too high to me:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/12/02/dean-blandino-rate-of-mistakes-by-officials-same-as-past-years/

    “Blandino said he doesn’t believe officiating is any different than it has been in past years and told Florio that the league’s review of roughly 26,000 plays through Week 11 have found 4.5 correctable mistakes by officials per game.”

    We all know that a game can turn on a very few plays. Given that we can expect 4 to 5 plays to be called wrong every single game we play, this is disturbing. Do they balance out? What types of calls are they getting wrong that can be corrected?

    And the biggest issue: If they are correctable, why isn’t’ the rate going down??

    WOW – just wow. This guy is deaf to his own words. He is admitting they are doing a crap job in fixing the problem (the rate of correctable mistakes is no better than last year) but thinks he just said there really isn’t a problem.

  • The GP

    Butch –

    This is a bullshit FF setting – essentially NBIT got to execute *ALL* his waiver wire pickups ahead of other people.

    It’s also weird that you lead your division and you got in there.

    I think maybe the Rothchilds have a hand in this conspiracy.

    Dec 23:40 AM

    Btch dropped Stefon Diggs, Min to W
    Btch added Dontrelle Inman, SD from W to BE

    Dec 23:40 AM

    GP added Ameer Abdullah, Det from W to BE

    Dec 23:40 AM

    NBIT dropped Ka’Deem Carey, Chi to W
    NBIT added David Johnson, Ari from W to BE

    Dec 23:40 AM

    NBIT dropped Giants D/ST, NYG to W
    NBIT added Bears D/ST, Chi from W to BE

    Dec 23:40 AM

    Btch dropped Allen Hurns, Jax to W
    Btch added Scott Chandler, NE from W to BE

    Dec 23:40 AM

    NBIT dropped Jason Witten, Dal to W
    NBIT added Travis Kelce, KC from W to BE

    • Sactowns#1

      Wait a minute?! Playoffs are already set to start? And only 4 teams made it in!?

      • The GP
        • My friend actually lives out there.
          Inland Empire (IE) is probably more dangerous than Compton or South Central cuz many of the South Central rejects move out there. Add some crazy hillbillies, and voila….

        • Sactowns#1

          No. If you haven’t driven around CA you might not get how large of a state it is. I’m about 8-9 hours drive from here to the Mexico border and 7 hours or so to Oregon. To put that in perspective I drove through 5 states on the east coast in 4 hours.
          Alas these mass shooting incidents seem to be on the rise. As much as I love my rifles I think it may be time to reevaluate the 2nd amendment.

    • willbest

      I can’t fathom a league where Travis Kelce hasn’t been on a roster since the draft, or that anybody would drop Allen Hurns. Are you guys playing with only 2 bench spots or is this a 6 team league?

      • Kelce was used but dropped recently then added again.

        I dropped Allen Hurns cuz I got Demayrius Thomas and Cooper at WR and barring inj, I’ not starting Hurns over either in the playoffs.

        I had him most of the year, but I change mentality when playoffs are near.

        • willbest

          Well your team, but he plays Indy in week 14 and New Orleans in week 16 even if he is out this week with a concussion.

          • He’s solid, sometimes, but I feel I can always get “reliable” points from Thomas/Cooper, and Hurns is just a “floor” guy.

            Personally, I prefer taking risk on high-upside guys, esp in the playoffs.

            Hurns is also ailing from all kinds of shit. I tend to shy away from hurt players.

            I started him in wk 11 and got a whopping 1 point.

            I don’t have to worry about that with my other WRs.

          • The GP

            I’m playing Sammy, and he will Mister Bojangles all over my team probably

          • haha. He did that in ONE game. Got like 150 yds in the first half, then zilch in the 2nd half.

            You trust Rex Ryan, OC, eh?

            https://imgflip.com/i/v3qya

          • Irish Sweetness

            I wonder what Sammy Davis Jnr’s sex face looked like?

          • willbest

            Okay, but who is your in case those guys get hurt guy? Do you have like 6 RBs that you are playing matchups on because your lost Bell or Randle or Charles or something? And then there is just not letting other people have somebody like Huns (who is 12th in ESPN standard scoring).

          • If my WRs get hurt, then I can hit the waiver wire and pick up a guy who’ll chip in Hurn’s level points for a week (Inman might be that guy, but I have 2 other candidates in mind too).

            They won’t give me that ceiling perhaps, but it’s a risk I’m willing to take.

            Given that both Foster and Forsett went down for me, I figure I’ve paid the injury gods and then some.

            Not many teams can take two starting RBs going down and still remain in first place, but I’m awesome.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Don’t you guys play matchups every week? I wouldn’t start a stud if he’s facing a tough defense.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Seth whatshisface had a barnstormer for OAK last Sunday.

          • Irish Sweetness

            It takes players weeks to play normally after a concussion I’ve noticed. Just because they’re back on the field doesn’t mean they’re okay.

      • The GP

        somebody else dropped Kelce last week, I tried to snap him up but was beat to it

        • That Guy

          I dropped him, then added him back and dropped Witten when Romo went down.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’ve dropped Hurns on the all the teams I had him. He’s in concussion protocol, there’s what, a week or two left of the FF season? He’s history. Waste of space on a roster.

    • It’s the standard ESPN waiver wire. The way they report it is a little confusing though since, but if you click on the waiver report link at the bottom, it’s a little more clear.

      Basically.

      1.
      Great Kevin White Hope
      David Johnson, Ari RB
      Added. NBIT dropped Ka’Deem Carey, Chi RB to Waivers.

      2.
      Chewbacca Defense
      Ameer Abdullah, Det RB
      Added.

      N’Acho Libres!
      David Johnson, Ari RB
      Unsuccessful. Reason: Player has already been added to another team.

      N’Acho Libres!
      Ameer Abdullah, Det RB
      Unsuccessful. Reason: Player has already been added to another team.

      N’Acho Libres!
      Ameer Abdullah, Det RB
      Unsuccessful. Reason: Player has already been added to another team.

      3.
      N’Acho Libres!
      Dontrelle Inman, SD WR
      Added. Btch dropped Stefon Diggs, Min WR to Waivers.

      4.
      Great Kevin White Hope
      Travis Kelce, KC TE
      Added. NBIT dropped Jason Witten, Dal TE to Waivers.

      N’Acho Libres!
      Dontrelle Inman, SD WR
      Unsuccessful. Reason: Player has already been added to another team.

      5.
      N’Acho Libres!
      Scott Chandler, NE TE
      Added. Btch dropped Allen Hurns, Jax WR to Waivers.

      6.
      Great Kevin White Hope
      Bears D/ST D/ST
      Added. NBIT dropped Giants D/ST, NYG D/ST to Waivers.

      • So, in other words, NB gets priority in EVERY round of waiver wire since he has a worse record, just like you were able to get Abdulla before me cuz your records sucks more.

        That’s pretty standard.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Nah, dude. Waiver priority must rotate. I’m last this week, means I’m first next week …. other wise it’s like the Bears picking first in the draft, but the first 7 picks are ours. No fair.

    • Irish Sweetness

      NBIT man, why would you ever have the Giants or Bears defenses?

      • That Guy

        I generally play matchups with D/ST rather than trying to find a consistent winner. I’m looking for bad opponents as much as good offenses (although high sack totals do help).

        • Irish Sweetness

          Absolutely. Kickers too. Gano had 18 points the other week, and I always choose the same kicker on all teams.

  • Sactowns#1

    Todays injury report is looking good. Sounds like Royal may be the only player sitting out this week. We’ll be at almost full strength.

    • BillW

      Great!

      (OK – I’m done)

    • BillW

      From Biggsy:

      #Bears WR Eddie Royal (knee) and S Antrel Rolle (knee) were held out of practice today.

      #Bears RB Ka’Deem Carey cleared to return from concussion. Full participation in practice today.

      • willbest

        Just what Forte and Langford owners need. Somebody else to vulture goal line carries.

      • Sactowns#1
        • BillW

          Indeed. No mention of Rolle on your link. The rest matches up in that the other players except Royal listed on your link did practice as Biggsy said.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Are we not liking the white safety?

          • BillW

            Oh yes indeed we are loving the white safety. See my link somewhere in this thread to a trib article that shows how he single handedly prevented a td

  • BillW

    I posted this before – Bears defense has given up only 6 TDs in 5 games in Nov.

    That was after the bye.

    That as also after cutting Ratliff.

    I believe both helped. Time to self scout and perhaps look at new schemes. And exerting authority was another step in the team building credibility with the players.

  • BillW

    Caption for the Rodgers picture for this story:

    Olivia – I TOLD you not to call me at work! I’m pretty busy right now!

  • Johnnywad

    Tomorrow night will be the first Thursday night non Bears game I’ve given a damn about in a long time.

    I think the Lions win this one. I also think Rodgers is going to start pressing. Hopefully, its the next step in their unraveling this year.

  • BearDown100393

    Mike McCarthy isn’t tough. He just doesn’t bother to shave anymore and looks like a confused fat hobo on the sideline.

  • Trac

    Looks like terrorism has hit the ground running in California today. Not enough details to know what happened but three heavily armed dudes opening fire and the running off into the sunset is very unusual. Interesting that it happened a few days after the NSA lost their ability to wire tap any and all cell phones.

    • willbest

      Unconfirmed rumor that law enforcement was looking for a Farook Syed, which is a good Irish name. Probably catholic. Fucking IRA types.

      • Johnnywad

        They hit a building full of disabled people. WTF is that? There is apparently no “bottom” to their approach.

        • willbest

          It doesn’t make a lot of sense. If it was just one guy, you figure crazy guy with a grudge, but a coordinated attack… wtf

          • Sactowns#1

            My early guess, crazy right wing extremists.

          • willbest

            government giving out too much money?

          • That Guy

            That does fit the MO more than Muslim extremists.

          • Trac

            Because it wasn’t a concert theatre? It’s terrorism, we just don’t know what kind yet.

          • That Guy

            The MO (mental health center, guns only, no explosives, no suicide attack) is more of a right wing extremist militia type MO than a fundamentalist Islamic MO, but I agree that we’re just speculating right now.

          • Trac

            People need to wake up, terrorism has arrived. This administration’s love fest for muslims is insane and it’s time for people to start using their brains and not their emotions and political pc be they have been spoon fed by the media.

          • willbest

            Terrorism requires a political agenda.

          • Johnnywad

            If it is in fact a Farook Syed type, the message must simply be, “we will literally kill anybody, even the most non threatening, to make out point.”

            I’ve exercised restraint in my opinions in this matter because of the level of complexity involved. But if this ends up being what it looks like, I’ll be fresh out of “PC Give A Fuck”.

          • That Guy

            Common Sense with Dan Carlin did a recent episode after the France attack and compared the national reaction to Joe Frazier dealing with Ali’s jab and dodge approach.

          • Johnnywad

            You’ll have to help me out there. I don’t know a thing about boxing history.

          • That Guy

            Basically Muhammad Ali was faster, Frazier was stronger. Ali was constantly throwing “stinging” jabs at Frazier that would never knock him out, but would sting. This was supposed to make Frazier angry so that he would waste energy trying to hit Ali, but Ali would never get close enough to allow it. If Frazier didn’t retaliate, Ali would win on points; if Frazier did retaliate, he would wear himself out swing at air.

            The ISIS terrorists are doing the same thing. They “sting” the world somewhere and then disappear. Maybe we can launch a major military operation, which is expensive and fatiguing, and maybe we catch one or two guys, but there are always more ready to take their place. So we wear ourselves out while they stay fresh.

            You can’t let the stinging jabs – which are legitimately dangerous – dictate how you box. You have to fight your fight and not let the opponent dictate the flow of the game.

            In poker its referred to as being “on tilt.”

            Its the same with the terrorists.

          • I agree. It’s a known fact that terroists want to do to us what Reagan did to the USSR, which is basically force them to spend and bankrupt their economy. Good way to erode an enemy from the inside out.

          • Johnnywad

            That’s a very thoughtful take on it.

            But I don’t see and end in sight when there seems to be a never ending supply of assholes. I also don’t see us boxing our match. It doesn’t even feel like there’s a match to box to me. It feels more like a global game of Whack-a-Mole with no winner….ever.

          • willbest

            I am not convinced the US is all that opposed to ISIS. Our bombing campaign looks very different to Russia who is very much opposed to ISIS.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Sun Tzu had the following use for ‘stinging’ attacks – it was how he suggested a small force could win against a much larger force. The small force launches a small-scale ‘sting’ attack on a lightly-fortified position, then runs away. As the enemy is reinforcing the position, you launch a much larger assault somewhere else.

      • Damn Irish, infesting the 5 points.

        There’s also a good book entitled ‘How the Irish Became White” tracing how America assimilated the Irish like the Borg.

        Culminating in Kennedy becoming prez.

        Now, Irish Americans are the ones stoning old refugee woman off the boat.

        U-S-A! U-S-A!

        • Irish Sweetness

          We invade countries thusly. Two people arrive in a foreign country armed with a telephone number. They enter a house.On exiting the house they have another ten Irish people with them, and so it goes ….

      • Irish Sweetness

        Farook O’ Syed, actually.

    • Sactowns#1

      If by “interesting” you mean completely unrelated then yes.

      • That Guy

        If Trac is correct, the NSA would screaming to the hilltops about how they have wiretap records from these guys but couldn’t do anything once the law changed.

        More importantly, if the NSA was already onto these guys, they would have been able to get a warrant.

        • Trac

          All I said was “it’s interesting”. Have no idea who is to blame but it is very unusual to have 3 dudes do this together. I’m guessing it could be 3 young punks who have been watching too many video games or terrorists. Normally someone would have heard someone yell alah achmed if it was a terror cell but not getting much news on the details. Maybe the weather underground?

      • Yes Guy…the floor is yours…

    • AlbertInTucson

      You really think the NSA has stopped doing it?

  • Wow, if you guys can, watch the manhunt for the San Berdu killers.

    They already got a warrant at Redlands, which is not that close to the kill zone.

    Feels like something might go down.

    The mass shooting also seems very coordinated, but I’m not sure it had a political agenda.

    Might have been disgrunted ex-employees, or church nuts.

  • TBC

    “The times are a changin’ in the NFC North & both teams know it.”

    Boy Howdy!!!!

    I can’t even imagine what would happen around here if the Bears overtook the Packers in the standings.

    • willbest

      We might address Irish’s question from the previous thread about which actor’s dick we would all suck if the Packers fell to 3rd in the division.

      • TBC

        Olivia Munn’s?

        • Shady

          Suck it.

          • TBC

            Is that an affirmation? Or a command?

          • Shady

            Lambeau turkey tastes like victory. Suck it.

          • TBC

            Yeah, I bet that tasted pretty sweet. Man, what if like…the Bears beat the Packers… in a playoff game? The NFC Championship??? On the road?? Man, I bet that would taste pretty sweet. Can you imagine?

            Okay okay, maybe that’s a little too much to ask for. But maybe like, a week 17 Bears victory at Lambeau in a winner-take-all showdown for the NFC North? Talk about bragging rights!!!

            Yeah. Thursday night was a significant game in the rivarly (for a couple of reasons). There is no question about that. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves here; The Packers are still balls deep in dat azzzz

          • madscout12

            Fucking Brett Favre night, asshole. Brett Favre night.

          • Shady

            You’d like to believe that, I know. Truth is you’re scared. I can smell it. Smells like rotten cheese. (insert skunk joke here)

            The times are a changin’ indeed and the sand in the peeyacker hourglass is running out my friend.

          • madscout12

            With only 2 championships in their DECADES of elite QBing. 2. That’s fucking embarrassing.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Not as embarrassing as being the oldest team in the NFL (from a real town) and only having one.

            Soon. Oh, but soon.

          • madscout12

            So, by “one” I assume you mean SB. I said Championships, of which, we have more than most in the league.

            If you mean elite QBs, yes, only one who played a long, long time ago.

          • Irish Sweetness

            (swoons)

            Yes, our Jimmy.

            GB have three more championships than us and one more SB, but we have ours thru longevity really. In the modern era, Pittsburgh, New England, Dallas, SF etc. are peeing all over us. And that’s not all right.

          • TBC

            I think he’s talking about Luckman.

          • Trac

            Yes, I agree. On BOTH counts!

          • BillW

            You sir are a great sport. As my uncle always said and I’ve noted on the blog before. Hate the team and respect the rivalry.

            I do hope we see two epic bears pack games next year that play a big role in the playoff picture

        • CanadaBear

          You know Erin’s never soiled it.

      • Irish Sweetness

        See? Not one of them will say. Now that I’m seeing it from a woman’s perspective, I think circumcised is probably a pre-requisite. But in no way am I showing Sandler or Stiller a good time.

        • MB30SD

          Yeah, fuck those two (not literally)

        • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

          Lol, irish. That’s sick. What if you had to choose the guy that would tag you. I’d choose Toby Maguire. He seems harmless.

          • Elvis?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Tobey Maguire !!!!!!!!! MWAH!!!!

            His big elven eyes beaming up at you ! Gobble. Gobble.

            Or does he come at you upside down ….

    • Scharfinator

      The blog would crash. That’s for sure. Too many drunken messages, it would be like a college freshman’s phone.

  • DocNitty Ellipsoids Ornamental

    Blog Poll:

    Is infidelity automatic grounds for divorce? Discuss.

    • The GP

      it’s serendipity that we posted these two things at the same time

    • MB30SD

      Yes. 100%.

      I have a zero tolerance policy on this when in a relationship. I’m not a cheater and I expect the same.

      It’s a personal decision.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I approve that message.

    • That Guy

      I’ve done some divorce work. I’ve seen couples bounce back from worse, and I’ve seen lesser things break up a marriage.

      But I think the real question is “why the infidelity?” Was it a one night stand? A long term affair? Was it for revenge? Addiction? Loneliness?

      Depending on the details, some couples can find a way to work through the challenge. Others can not.

      If you have a marriage where they live in different cities for work and one or both finally caved in to loneliness for a week or two before confessing the dastardly deed, maybe its time to make some sacrifices and start living together a married unit again.

      If you have one partner who absolutely doesn’t respect the other and has been cruising online personals for fun on the side, that guy’s on the way out even if he does legitimately stop cheating.

      But its not automatic, no.

      • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

        Boom

      • MB30SD

        this is def NB Hope you and the fam are well.

        My bro and I were at the museum of science with our kids and a rebbi was there…. he deployed the Tefillin on my bro. All I could think was some redneck was going to think the rebbi was a terrorist and the little boxes my bro had on were bombs. haha

    • I don’t think I would be able to handle the image of another dude drilling my wife.

      But that’s just me.

      Obviously, it’s more complicated when kids are involved.

    • willbest

      If the woman cheats yes. If the man cheats with a hotter woman, no. If the man cheats with a less attractive woman, then yes.

      • AlbertInTucson

        If the woman cheats with another woman?

        • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

          If you are benched….yes
          If you are part of the rotation…..no

        • Irish Sweetness

          That’s cool.

    • Cutty of Olivet Nazarene

      Not if it’s you and your columbian au pair

      • willbest

        I thought you were talking up polish au pair. Or was that somebody else.

        • MB30SD

          he switches it up based on the month. Gotta keep things fresh

    • Irish Sweetness

      I think so yes. If provable.

      Either way, as a man, you’re the one getting fucked. Legally. They say it’s a man’s world? Not in western divorce courts.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Yeah, because what’s the point?……….Something’s gonna come out stinkin’ for cheatin’

    • CanadaBear

      Not to be too serious but once the trust is broken it’s never going to be the same again.

  • The GP

    The Butch Song or “I’m up to my ass in ass”

    There’s cooz in the kitchen
    twat in the hall
    what am I going to do with it all?
    a box in my shanty
    a hole in my bed
    I’m up my ass in ass

    it’s ready to burst
    this grand beaver dam
    too much stank
    from the bearded clam
    bring on the flood
    of that jelly roll bud
    i’m up to my ass in ass

    i can’t swing a cat
    without hitting some gash
    it’s crazy man
    it’s a meat curtain bash
    with all these kittens scratching my pole
    a brother can’t help but fall in a hole
    no need to cry
    here’s a slice of hair pie
    I’m up to my ass in ass

    let’s go down
    down on muffy’s mound
    hey look what i found
    the key to tuna town
    tuna town
    looks like I’m getting nothing but laid
    cause marching down main comes that poon parade
    them silly shriners all sporting vaginers
    I’m up to my ass in ass

    ding a ling a ling
    there goes the breakfast sword

    http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/77f51b1c5c/i-m-up-to-my-ass-in-ass-by-mr-brad-logan?_cc=__d___&_ccid=9p3iei.nxj0qz

    • lmao, next time up to my ass in ass, I’m gonna wear that suit!

      Like a boss.

      And for the record, I think MB gets more poon than I do, esp if you count supermodel brain-surgeon cosmonauts!

      • MB30SD

        Think?! : /

        Fuck you man… get it right… SLOVENIAN supermodel brain-surgeon cosmonauts!

        And I showed you pics, what more proof did you want?! you know me enough by now, I don’t give a fuck about big upping myself or bragging… that shit holds zero allure for me. I love sharing stories and hearing them. Zero ego, been there done that.

        • Whoa there buddy. U know i like fucking w u lol.

          • MB30SD

            Dude, you really thought I was serious?! Come ON!

            I love it when you fuck with me. bring it on punk… and don’t you EVER think I was butt hurt again. I NEVER get butt hurt. dumbass.

  • Could you imagine if White returns, and we make the playoffs?

    Manboner!

    http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/videos/White-Im-pushing-to-play/5b9762a1-0b66-4b4a-b058-171d2043b96a

    • willbest

      First thought: Lets see him do something first.

      Second thought: He can take turns with Jeffery having a chipped nail each week

  • Irish Sweetness

    Ixnay on the Porter-getting-burned vibe, from Blog padre’s (re)tweet.

    https://twitter.com/Gil_Brandt/status/672180268485120002

  • StarkyLuv

    The Packers, led by their coach and QB are classic front-runners. When things are clicking, they’re smiling and skipping and doing the discount double-check. When things get nasty and chippy, they fold. They make excuses. They lose.

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