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Willie Young Proving To Be the Signature Move of the Phil Emery 2014 Off-Season

| October 14th, 2014

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These were Phil Emery’s comments when the Bears signed Willie Young away from the Detroit Lions in March, courtesy of Chris Boden at CSN Chicago:

“Our thoughts about defensive players is to get the toughest, most aggressive, instinctive players that have a little bit of an old-school mentality, a ‘Bear’ mentality, and we certainly feel Willie has those attributes,” said Bears general manager Phil Emery. “(It’s) another positive step in improving our roster to the point where we can contend and win a championship.

“This was important for us to get a second defensive lineman, a quality starter, an opportunity for Willie to grow and for us to grow with him. When we went into free agency we thought if we could find a way to get two starting defensive linemen, we would’ve made forward progress.”

What do you think was the first comment listed below this post?

johns 213 days ago. Young might be Ok, but I would rather have Wooton
Turns out this johns character was quite wrong with his assessment of Phil Emery’s signature move of the 2014 offseason. Young is far from OK. To this point in the campaign he’s been the league’s most preeminent sack man. And Corey Wootton? Rumors have it he’s on the Minnesota Vikings.

It is hard to put into perspective just how remarkable this season has begun for Willie Young. His seven sacks are one more than he had in his entire career with the Detroit Lions and – with ten games remaining – equal the total of Julius Peppers sacks for the entirety of the 2013 season. And at only $3 million a year (which is less than Robbie Gould makes, folks) Young has become the NFL’s best value player not on his rookie contract.

Willie Youngs don’t happen often in the NFL, if at all. Players don’t become great pass rushers on their second contract, as they approach thirty, without serious pass rushing credentials in their earlier years. Just go through the available sack statistics on ESPN since 2002 and you’ll find that not a single player at the top of those tables wasn’t either (a) on his rookie deal or (b) on a lucrative second or third deal as the result of a brilliant rushing resume.

Yet here is Young. An NFL enigma. A late bloomer. In the era when most free agency signings do not play up to their contracts, Young is the rare coup for an NFL general manager. It is easy to identify the great players on the free agent market. It is near impossible to identify the soon-to-be great players. Phil Emery has found one, a player poised to earn the entirety of his three-year, $9 million contract in his first season as a Chicago Bear.

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  • Shady

    Love the Young Fisherman, knew it from his first sack.

    • Trac

      Also happy we took him from a Div. rival. I think I remember Detroit was disappointed that they couldn’t re-sign him.

  • I Wanted to see if Young could convert those pressures into sacks.
    Spoiler alert. He has!

    • Still waiting for that to happen with Houston. Still getting pressures, no sacks.

      • from the last thread…
        Bears’ D are now ranked #10 vs run.
        Allen has 14 QB pressures. Houston has 12 (1st and 2nd, respectively, according to Bears’ coaches)
        Will Young 7 sacks lead the NFL. “Oh, tell me more, Butch”
        Very quietly, Paea has 4 sacks, which for a DT, is very good. (FYI. Contract Year)

      • Apparently, the Bears are thrilled with Houston’s run D? If you ask me, they seem a little defensive about Houston’s lack of sacks esp given his contract.

        • the run D has been REALLY good this year, especially the past few weeks. I have a post coming out on that tomorrow. Gotten better every week.

          • BillW

            No doubt it’s a stats driven league. Case in point, Peppers given defensive player of the week for catching a tipped pass while he was lost in coverage. Probably at least 10 players more worthy, including probably the guy who actually caused the interception by tipping the pass.

          • CanadaBear

            Yeah, that blew my mind. Goes to show you how much the league likes to promote certain players/franchises.

  • MB30SD

    Jones, next man up. ;* P

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    i was worried about all his penalties and coming from a team that lacked so much discipline. Glad i was wrong.

  • Get to see the rook dt we almost drafted tonight. Also, if Austin Davis is the real deal

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      if you listen to Gruden – Austin Davis is one of the best QBs to have ever played the game, but so is every other QB that plays on Monday Nights.

      • MB30SD

        Guy’s a tool. His carona ads are the worst

        • AlbertInTucson

          I kind of liked the “Eligible/Ineligible” receivers one.

          • MB30SD

            Groooooaaaan

  • EnderWiggin

    I love the Rams’ throwbacks. Reminds me of Flipper Anderson.

    • Shady

      Eric Dickerson. Deacon Jones. Marshall Faulk.

      • #29. 2Nd best Jerry curl and goggles behind sweetness and Horace Grant respectively

      • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

        Chris Everett.

      • Guest

        Deacon’s Unis were basic white with dark blue trim. Like the Cowboys, they occassionally wore dark blue tops. And the Helmets were Navy Blue with white horns.

  • Rams have a lot of young studs thanx to the rg3 Trade. If Davis is a franchise qb, watch out

    • then the 2nd half happened.

      Davis is a franchise QB, alright. A franchise-crushing QB.

      • MB30SD

        Hahaha

      • Don’t know. His recievers seemed totally clueless, while for some strange Fisher reason, he thought that the HBs could block blitzes. The Rams still can’t figure out how to use Austin, and all their HBs look pedestrian.
        Austin has played pretty well in the other games, but to me it just looks like a poor supporting cast and aimless OC.
        We’ll see.
        The more surprising part was how horrible the Ram’s D looked. No sacks. IN THE WHOLE SEASON! Yikes. Weren’t they supposed to have a fearsome front 4 under defensive guru Fisher?

        Guess not.

        • CanadaBear

          And they put up about 250 rushing yds on us last year. DAMN!

  • GPLDAN

    That F60 America from last thread was incredible, MB. If you re-did Cannonball Run now, that’s the car Dean and Sammy would be driving in as priests.

    • MB30SD

      No bad eh?

  • Aaron T. Starks

    I’m loving the production from Young making up for the slow start from Allen. When this D-line starts clicking on all cylinders, it’ll be epic. Now if we can get this LB situation worked out. I loved how the 3 subs played yesterday. They played FAST, which Briggs and Co. don’t seem able to do.

    • GPLDAN

      I would be interested to see how those LBs would fare against a scheme that requires more discipline such as a Run Option / Pistol look that the Panthers unleashed against the Bengals now that Newton can run again.

      As long as they face straight drop back QBs, their assignments stay relatively simple, and they can use their athleticism well. Tucker brought 5 at least half the time, so they had a lot of blitz reads.

      • Not to mention facing a real HB and offensive line.
        That’s why I surmise the Bears LBs will look like
        Briggs-Sharpton-DJ
        IF Briggs and DJ look old and slow, then maybe they reinject the yougins, though by then they might not have the excuse of inj.

  • Thank you for bringing this post from the future, for us to have it today

  • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

    It’s not gambling when you win….every single bet for the last month. Thank you 9ers for nearly doubling the bankroll again.

    • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

      Harbaugh must know the spread is 4, fucking cocksucker.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I love the ads for FANDUEL and their ilk. “This guy has won $652,000 on FANDUEL”

      Yeah. And 600,000 OTHER guys have lost hundreds or thousands playing.

      • Scott W.

        Bingo!

  • Emery really had a dynamite 2014 offseason. Appears to have killed the draft, was excellent in FA, and brought back the right players while sending the right players packing.

    The run D went from the worst the NFL has seen in 40 years to an above average unit. OVERNIGHT! That’s amazing.

    • also worth pointing out that every single draft pick through the end of round 6 but David Fales has played meaningful snaps so far this year, and every single one of them has looked like they belonged.

      That just doesn’t happen.

      • MB30SD

        Exactly. Boom!

      • Ososfan

        Makes you all giddy and warm inside. I’ve been saying this for a while and have agreed with Jeff for a long while that Emery needs one more year to establish a very very good team. Patience is what we as fans need to have. It’s amazing how the team is turning around little by little. No matter the outcome this year as I hope it’s a SB WIN, I believe Emery will shape it up for long term success next year. I still think we need the best O line guy in the draft or free agency next year, millsis scaring me and Bushrod is decent…..

        • Big Mike

          Top choice is still on Defense I believe.

          • shaping up to be the top 3 needs are LB, CB, and S, in some yet-to-be-determined order (right now I’d say a MLB who never leaves the field and can QB the defense is my top get).
            People forget that Kromer has a history of developing young tackles overlooked because they’re from small schools into solid players. The Bears have THREE of them on the roster right now: Mills, Ola, and Leno. One of them will be the starting RT next year and will be average or better, IMO.
            People forget that Mills had no offseason, training camp, or preseason to improve this year because of his foot injury. To the best of my knowledge, he was the first Kromer overlooked OT to start as a rookie. Typically those guys need 1-2 years to develop. Mills never got that, and I had hopes he would improve this offseason, but the injury prevented that from happening.

      • Trac

        Prior to Emery arriving in Chicago, Angelee never drafted for depth. At least if he did, you would never know it. Angelo drafted for special teams, Emery drafts for value.

        • MB30SD

          Pool jumping was also a very important part of his draft value equation

          • Scott W.

            How else do I say I’m laughing like hell at that bullseye post?

            Being a good smartass is so important. Well done, Mr. MB.

          • MB30SD

            chicks dig me, guys wanna fight me scotty.

            Just ask around.

          • Scott W.

            …so I should follow around on twitter then.
            God, I am too clever for my thumbs…

    • BerwynBomber

      One can question the Peanut signing as I did at the time. But the Fuller pick saved Emery’s bacon at CB. I would also split hairs with “killed it in FA”. His biggest signing — Allen — has only been average thus far. But I agree that PE had a good ’14 offseason.
      Btw, is Briggs up at the end of the year? Will be interesting to see what PE does there.

      • Trac

        Emery really had to sign Peanut didn’t he? It was a payback move combined with a need on our roster that was worth the risk..

        • between “having to sign urlacher,” “having to sign hester,” and “having to sign peanut,” I think Phil made the right choice out of the 3 options.

          But damn it, return guys, get us out past the 20 already.

          • Scott W.

            I was sorry to see Urlacher go, but only for sentimental reasons. Do think the locker room needed to go from his control to Cutler’s (or is it Marshall’s?) Post haste.

      • johnnywad

        Peanut’s worth paying this year. He’s having an obvious impact on Fuller even if he can’t get on the field and play.

        • Scharfinator

          This. Also, it shows Tillman has a home with the Bears in some capacity. He’s one of the guys you hope they keep employing (as some sort of coach or staff) after he’s done playing.

          • BillW

            On an interview with Holmes on the Score, Peanut said he doesn’t want to coach because coaches spend no time with their families.

            I wish he would coach but I’m sure after the health scare with his daughter, he means what says.

            And where is the Peanut Punch product endorsement we’ve all been expecting for a few years? No ideas? Peanut flavored Punch doesn’t sound too appetizing I guess.

          • Scharfinator

            Boxing glove line. Have little peanut shapes sewn into them.

        • Scott W.

          Peanut should be given a lifetime consultant contract. Today.

      • CanadaBear

        Yeah, this is Briggs’ last contract year. After last Sunday, the chances of Lance coming back just went down.

      • MB30SD

        He just had his first healthy game after shaking off some rust.

        I predict he has 11 sacks by the end of the super bowl.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          I see what you….oh never mind you beautiful bastard, just take a bow and exit stage left where Ms. Kitty will fix you up with a nice hooker, MB everybody!

      • Scott W.

        Correction: Allen was his biggest “name/rep” signing. Allen may be playing a good role in why Willie Young is having the season he’s having, to be sure.
        But I thought the accurately described Peppers for Allen move was just that; one on the back of his arch for another. Still do.

        • BillW

          Allen role in being a part of WY’s “breakout” season is a good point.

    • Trac

      Yes, great thoughts Mr. Wood. I was skeptical before this years draft of Emery’s skill in this area but he truly has swung and hit it out of the park twice this season, in free agency and in the draft. This is the only reason we are competitive this year in my opinion. Given all our injuries, we obviously have some depth on this team that was a result of intelligent, purposeful cherry picking of players that have the talent needed to add value to the Bears roster. Emery has proven to me that he has the insight needed to build a roster, now he has the opportunity to prove to Chicago fans that he has staying power. Oh and I love Jeff’s use of the word enigma in his thread.

      • Big Mike

        Gettin healthy, geating younger, gaining experience. Now string a couple wins together and peak in Dec. (not September. Ahem. Lovie)

      • MB30SD

        Veeery…. well written trac. So formal and proper.

        I shall expect the hand written note that accompanies my 4 lbs of biltong and sundries to share the same tone.

        • Trac

          Hahaha. I am looking forward to purchasing your Christmas present. Hahahaha

          (See how I did that?).

          • MB30SD

            I did. It’s all xmas where I’m from. (no idea what that means)

    • CanadaBear

      It’s still early but the Allen for Pep exchange so far has been a wash. Bringing back DJ doesn’t look like a great move at this point. There’s still the CD conundrum. So far, Emery has treated ST’s like the illegitimate red-headed stepchild. I like a lot of PE’s moves but he’s still got some warts on that resume. By the end of the year things will change but right now I’d say he’s doing good but not great. If Trest is the answer at HC that goes a long way to cement PE’s legacy. If Trest is just another footnote in a long line of mediocre HC’s, PE will be looked at in much the same way.

      • BillW

        He’s making more (important) moves in less time than most GMs need. His hit/miss ratio is probably the same as most of the good GMs, but he’s on fast forward so we see them (good and bad) sooner.

        And my first sentnence reminded me of Basketball Jones – I’ve got more moves than ExLax!

        • CanadaBear

          I’m not down on PE but not exactly ready to throw a parade for him. Overall he’s a quantum leap from JA.

          • MB30SD

            my left ballsack is a quantum leap from that asshole.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Why do you have two of them?
            NVM, I think I just teed you up.

          • MB30SD

            just a fun little nickname I give my nads. they seem to like it.

      • MB30SD

        you and I have had this discussion ad nauseum. I truly now believe every dude cept for the brilliant alshon move his first draft was all lovie’s cronies.

        If you take that to be true, PE looks like an A+ so far.

        • CanadaBear

          We’ll never agree on that theory. Just too convenient to give him a pass on crappy picks. Oh well.

          • MB30SD

            But that draft was SOOOOO lovie’s style, like throwing fucking darts… and the last two drafts have been so surgical and steadfast. They are total opposites.

            What’s your theory canada… luck? He’s a super fast learner? He decided to abondon his initial strategy for a different one?

          • CanadaBear

            Nope. No theory whatsoever. The GM is responsible for the draft picks. Period. Does he get input and persuasion from the coaches? SURE! Who’s ass is on the line when these picks fail? The GM. Not to mention, PE doesn’t strike me as some shrinking violet. He’s going to follow his own path. He waited his whole life to sit in the big chair and I just don’t see him giving it up to Lovie. Esp since we both agree he was going to send Lovie packing unless he had a miracle year.

          • MB30SD

            I would 100% agree with this EXCEPT… he was told IN THE PRESS, PUBLICALLY by teddy and george that Lovie was calling the shots that year, and that he basically worked for Lovie

            That was the fulcrum of my entire argument. That Phil didn’t have his system, his guys (as big bear penis pointed out), or the ability to run the draft on his own… he, and all of us, were told that lovie was the guy and emery was his lackie that first year.

            If not for that, I 100% agree and support your decree that personnel picks are always on the GM in the end.

          • CanadaBear

            You’re taking some logic to the extreme here. The only thing I ever read about the PE/Lovie pairing was PE couldn’t fire Lovie that first year. Other than that, everything I read was pretty much GM/Coach speak. Lots of platitudes about working together and all that happy horseshit. Nothing about PE taking a backseat to Lovie in the draft. Like we always say, we’re never going to convince the other on this topic.

        • Scott W.

          Yesterday it was a B+.

          I can’t keep erasing grades, or we’ll get caught and thrown out of Comment University.

          CU later.

          • MB30SD

            I said if you take that his first draft was all lovie besides alshon. With the other tools that got drafted that year he gets bumped down to a B+

            There’s method to my madness scotty me boy.

          • Scott W.

            I’ll try to take better notes.

            Off the cuff, you think he knew he was sending Lovie packing when he got hired?

          • MB30SD

            yep.

          • Cormonster

            Yeah, no changies MB!

        • and you’re giving him credit for alshon because it’s working out? if alshon continued his rookie year tendency of staying as healthy as marc bradley, would you be attributing the pick to the cronies?

          • MB30SD

            not at all… I’m giving him alshon because lovie/JA never made a trade up move to get a character-questionmark guy in any round of any previous draft.

            It was TOTALLY out of character for that regime. (oh, and it was a brilliant pick)

          • MB30SD

            and don’t you get sassy with me son!

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          i believe alshon was strictly an Emery pick. As for CD, PE had more input on the pick than you are giving him credit for. The Hardin pick and the rest reek of Lovie/JA. The only reason i am willing to give Emery a pass on the first draft was he did not implement his grading system for draft picks until after the draft. His scouts spent the whole year grading players on JA’s system. PE had to work with the information he was given based on those grades.

          • MB30SD

            that is true enough. And he had JA’s scouts and not his own. So let’s give him a wash on draft #1… CD bust and Alshon star.

            Then we basically throw that one out and grade him on drafts (and off seasons) 2 & 3. Fair enough?

          • CanadaBear

            The thing is he was running the scouting at KC so he was certainly aware of the talent in the draft.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            Yes he was running the scouts at KC so he knew of talent. But he walked out the door at KC. It is not like he can take the 1000’s and 1000’s of player evals with him. That would be like an Exec at Coke walking out the door with the secret recipe. While he knew of gems in draft ie Jeffery, no one can be expected to know every player in the draft especially later rounds.

          • CanadaBear

            True enough but it’s not like he erased his brain and reset it when he left KC.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            We agree mostly Canada, Emery was the GM and he deserves criticism for that 1st draft, where we differ is how much criticism. I and some others are willing to give a pass on things based on the situation he came into. Its hard to revamp an entire scouting staff and ways of thinking in the 3-4 months from when he was hired till when the draft occurred. Its not like he could come in and fire all scouts day one. As GM he is also responsible for evaluating the staff he has and inherited. I am sure he found out fairly quickly who he liked/trusted as a scout and who he didn’t. Heck we don’t know for sure how bad JA did things in regards to the draft, he could have had a monkey throwing shit at names on a wall to decide who to draft for all we know.

          • CanadaBear

            I know we’re splitting atoms here but PE knew/worked with quite a few of the scouts that were on the payroll from his time with the Beloved. Overall, I think he’s done a pretty good job but I’m just not all in yet. If I were convinced Trest was the real deal I’d be much more willing to praise PE. Not really down on Trest but I still don’t know if he’s a new age Svengali or just the re-incarnation of Lovie except trading D for O.

    • Scott W.

      I am glad Hester is gone. Good move there.

      Sending McCown out the door (we may have had no choice, can’t recall) was bad.

      He was the perfect backup for us. Perfect. In other systems? Not so much. Wish Cliff would’ve added 0’s until Josh unpacked.

      • CanadaBear

        5 mil for a backup QB is bad juju. That would have cut about 4 mil out of the pie.

        • Scott W.

          Cheap if Cutler goes down…not that there’s a history there or anything. Just my bits and bytes.

          • CanadaBear

            No doubt but that extra 4 mil signed Willie Young with a mil leftover.

          • MB30SD

            BOOM!

          • Scott W.

            Sure hope that wasn’t your inflatable sister popping at the seams…I have plane tickets.

          • MB30SD

            I’ll buy a new one. Wasn’t sure if you liked them ‘plump’ or not. I’ll just buy a ‘plus sized’ one for you this time.

          • Scott W.

            So accounting wise, you’re saying, there was no way.

          • MB30SD

            want to know a secret scott (besides that I don’t have a sister… that I know of)… Clausen is a much better QB. And he’s not 35.

            McCown had one of those Flynn/kolb flashes. It was part luck, part system, part circumstance. He will NEVER have another year like that again. As proven by his entire career and his short time starting at lovie’s house.

          • Scott W.

            I do hear you. You truly think McCown wasn’t that guy that happened to perfectly fit here? I am not saying he’s really good.

            I just believe the chemistry here was conduscive to success.

            Clausen may be better, but is he better than McCown HERE?

            Moot point now, I know.

          • MB30SD

            I think it was a point in time. An intersection.

            Not sure how he would do in cutty’s place this year. Obviously he’d have weapons and the canadian evil genius behind him… but those things tend to regress back to the mean in life.

            Look at flynn and kolb and even fitz… they have flashes, especially when they haven’t been the starter, but as time flows they become who they are. Everything in life regresses back to the mean me lad… lessons from a broken man.

          • Scott W.

            Rational, so it makes sense and rings true. Got me thinking, that because McCown also believed the hype based on his success, it woulda been/was a game changer, so to speak.

            Fits your narrative, and makes it easier to see your and Canada’s POV.

            If he believed he was better than he was, that was the end anyway.

            For what he did for us here, glad he got a check from it. At 35, he got paid. Good on him.

          • Jokey

            I don’t think that’s accurate – he stated til the end that he was a backup to Jay. If you’re equating accepting millions this year with believing the hype, then yeah, you’re right.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            McCown got a lot of credit for his awesome stats last year. But I watched those games. And while his stats were superb, they didn’t tell the whole story. I recall a ball a game, maybe two, that was thrown right to the defenders and was dropped. In my opinion, he was as lucky as he was good last year.

          • Scott W.

            I remember those.

          • MB30SD

            Good point my doc.

      • had no money to pay a backup that much. Letting him walk was the right move.

        • Scott W.

          Yeah, I plugged in to the accounting, Jonathan. My thoughts centered around value to the W/L column.

          But the arguments against him are salient points, all.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Willie Young Proving To Be the Signature Move of the Phil Emery 2014 Off-Season”
    Did they RE-sign Ratliff for this season or did he sign for more than one season last year?

  • AlbertInTucson

    Blogfather tweet: “Janoris Jenkins stinks.”

    You’ are being too kind, Blogfather.

    Biting on that move by Brandon Lloyd with 25 seconds left in the half was HIDEOUS and showed a COMPLETE lack of “Situational Awareness” which, I suspect, Mr. Jenkins could not even spell, let alone comprehend.

    • BerwynBomber

      I missed tonight’s game but from what little I’ve seen of Jenkins the last two years he reminds me a bit of Terrell Buckley; that is, a guy who is as capable of making a huge play as he is getting burned.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis
    • MB30SD

      Disgusting…

      …that you haven’t posted this sooner. Thank you sir may I have another!

      You know, I used to not be into chicks like her.the hair the tats… but as I got single and get older, I’ve dated a couple like her and I’m way into it. They’re crazy, but I’m not marrying them (or even really dating them) so it works out.

      Golfclap to you sir!

      • CanadaBear

        I was looking for the quote from Janis Joplin. I’m paraphrasing but it’s close, “I like guys with tattoos. They like to have sex a lot.” She wasn’t exactly a hottie but you gotta love that “can do” attitude.

        • MB30SD

          exactly that. Not to generalize, but I’ve found… in my personal journeys, that chicks with lots of tats (not just a smiling dolphin under a sun as a tramp stamp) are usually a little to a lot crazy… in and out of bed. Which is perfect if you don’t plan to stick around to have your pet rabbit boiled. That and I’ve grown to think a lot of (good) ink on a naked chick can be super sexy. I use to be grossed out.

          Now, piercings are another subject altogether. I’m in! (literally)

  • johnnywad

    Hypothetical question. Were Pete Carroll coaching the Bears, and all seven linebackers were healthy, which three would start this weekend? I like what Trest has done thus far, but I’m not sure I like the concept of not losing your job to injury, of which he is a full time subscriber.

    • AlbertInTucson

      You subscribe to the “We’ll let you know when you’re healthy again.” theory.

      • johnnywad

        Provided player #2 is proving to be an upgrade.

  • Scharfinator

    Interesting point about this weekends game – Vereen played 31 snaps compared to McCray’s 2 after Conte went down.

    Grooming another solid pick? EMERY YOU DOG!

    • MB30SD

      Egg zack tly

    • who the hell is demontre hurst?

      • CanadaBear

        THE INTERCEPTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • well, yes. but beyond that. who the hell is he?

          • Scharfinator

            Practice squad promotion. Undrafted last year and has practiced with us since.

          • GPLDAN

            Had a solid preseason like AL-Jean but just got bumped in roster musical chairs.

          • MB30SD

            this. he had a solid preseason. We actually seem to have some pretty solid young talent squirreled away on the ol’ PS.

          • CanadaBear

            Have no idea.

        • BillW

          Great play, but it was fourth down. Conventional wisdom and all says knock it down. Had he not made the play and tipped it to the receiver….

          well, we still would have won. Still, next time without a 14 point lead I hope he plays it safer.

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t worry about that a whole lot. If he was a veteran of a few years I’d expect that awareness. For a guy on the fringe of the roster, good on him.

  • CanadaBear

    Hey MB, Justin Verlander’s girlfriend wanted you to see this.

    http://www.si.com/swim-daily/2014/10/13/kate-uptons-rookie-outtakes-are-your-monday-treat

    • MB30SD

      why would you mock me like that. I am both smitten and jealous at the same time. I mean the guy plays fucking baseball!?!? Oh, he’s a multi-millionaire? Oh… uhhh… ok. :_ (

      Btw, I would wear that chick like a fucking feedbag if she was my gf. And/or her ass like a hat.

  • GPLDAN

    Going and paying market rate for an impact DE is not a signature move. Young is producing as he was expected to produce.

    What makes a GM great is how he fills the totality of his roster. And so I would propose that picking up a lineman from Canada that can play every spot is the most impact Emery has made to shoring up the team.

    Because when you compare Ola to Glitchy’s Frank ‘Omigod’ Omiyale, you really see the value in being able to scout correctly and predict correctly what their NFL top end could be.

    • CanadaBear

      And JA’s specialty was OL. Mind numbing.

      • MB30SD

        PLEASE don’t get me started. God I hate that man (as our GM)…

        …I’m sure he’s some village’s perfectly harmless idiot.

    • johnnywad

      If his current production continues through 16 + games, he’ll be earning far more than $3M this season. Since when is $3M per, going rate for 18-1/2 sacks? I agree with Jeff here. While Ola is a decent pickup, I can’t wait for Bushrod to get his ass back in the lineup. No way Ola is more important than Young. Assuming PE would fail on the OL as badly as JA had isn’t a fair frame of reference for the discussion.

      • GPLDAN

        If Young ends the season with 18 sacks, I will completely reassess that call.

        • he’s already outplayed his $3M salary. even if he does nothing the rest of the year.

          • GPLDAN

            It takes 7 sacks to outplay $3M in the NFL today?

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            I seem to recall Julius Peppers having 7 sacks last year for $14M, so yes, if you aren’t on a rookie deal getting 7 sacks from someone making $3M in today’s NFL is HUGE.

          • johnnywad

            JP’s getting like $10M this year for whats going to amount to about 4 sacks and 15 tackle .

          • at DE, I’d say 7 sacks is outplaying $3M.
            7 sacks would have been tied for 46th in the NFL last year with Julius Peppers. 27 DEs had 7+ sacks last year.
            The 25th highest average cap hit for DEs this year is $5M.
            So I think it’s safe to say 7 sacks is at least equal to $3M, if not outperforming it.

    • Scott W.

      I had forgotten old Frank O. Please stop mentioning him. I’ll pay money.

      Yer slipped in word “predict” is your post’s center of gravity.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Omigod, I’d forgotten what a turnstile that dude was.

        • DaMurph

          I think he was better than J’Marcus though, just sayin.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      “Young is producing as he was expected to produce.”

      did anyone really expect him to have 7 sacks and be as disruptive as has been?

  • Sactowns#1

    So whats the latest on injuries this week gents? How long could Theo be out with a concussion? He could have recovered from brain surgery by now.

    • BillW

      Didn’t Rat play some Sunday? Not on the stat sheet though. I was at a bar and really didn’t notice one way or the other.

    • CanadaBear

      Rat played almost 40 snaps Sunday. He was disruptive for sure.

      • Sactowns#1

        hu.. I saw he was still listed on the injury report last week and I didnt hear his name called so i figured he just didnt play.

        • CanadaBear

          Not sure when he passed the concussion protocol but he was practicing last week (same with Conte).

    • MB30SD

      I will see if I can do some digging, this has been bugging me too sac. Wtf is wrong with bushrod?

  • AlbertInTucson

    When does the heat get turned up on Jeff Fisher? He’s been livin’ on rep that his record clearly does not support.

    • BillW

      I thought it was funny that a big shot on the competition committee got hosed on the OPI call.

      But it’s not funny that they called that OPI. Once again, I think the point of emphasis is making refs see things that aren’t there. So there should be challenges on all major penalties etc etc as have been said forever. I’m sure Jeff wishes he could have challenged that, so maybe that change will be coming.

  • BillW

    PFT Rankings:

    24. Atlanta Falcons (No. 22; 2-4): That Georgia dome should be renamed Soldier Field South.

    Proud that one of my “kids” was part of that.

  • MB30SD

    Dude, we also have two pretty interesting options at DB on the injured list: http://www.chicagobears.com/team/injury-report.html (dixon and McManis… my fav)

    Emery is quietly building something interesting from the ground up here gents.

  • BillW

    If Emery’s picks and FAs keep this up, I’m going to have to come on here and say I was wr.. wro..wron…not corr.. not righ…

    misquoted.

  • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

    Nothing takes the sting off of Tuesdays like a Victory.

    • MB30SD

      or a fresh pot of strange?

      (tonight… 25… will send pics… with love… if I get)

      • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

        Damn. Lucky Bastard.

        Say, how’s the safari going?

        • MB30SD

          Hahahaha… ended up opting out. Too much texting and not enough viewing/going into the bush. Wasn’t the storied, fantasy trip I have been promising myself. I’m waiting for the perfect set up to really put effort in and get it done.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            Fair.

  • BillW

    One last post for victory Tuesday –
    One of the things I will concentrate on this Sunday at Soldier Field is appreciating Matt Forte. I don’t recall who was doing Forte stat posting a few thread ago, but it made me think – I’ve been watching him for all this time and actually in a sense taking him for granted.

    Durable, reliable, versatile, productive, and quiet. There is only one other back that fit those qualifications and I certainly never took HIM for granted. Shame on me.

    I don’t believe in jinxes but if you do, I apologize for saying this – but there is no way to know how many more times I will see the second greatest back in Chicago Bears history in person, so I will make sure I pay special attention to him Sunday.

    • IBNO

      Gale Sayers might have something to say about your ranking, Bill.

      • BillW

        I was going to address that but trying to keep my posts shorter than War and Peace. (Apt analogy if I say so myself).

        Sayers has a special place in that list due to a short career. Just my opinion of course.

        Also I’m making a distinction between “runner” and “running back”. Sayers was certainly the best runner.

        I’ve been blessed to have seen him and Walter, and Matt live.

        Never saw Casares live since my Dad and Uncle wouldn’t take me to a game until I got into high school. (If you guys are listening up there – that still irks me! Send down another SB win and we’ll call it even.)

    • was talking with Rich Campbell earlier today on Twitter about if Forte will be a HOFer. He thinks Forte has a good shot with a couple more productive years.
      I think that, like Tillman, Forte never got the national recognition to get there. He’s only got 2 Pro Bowls and 0 All pros right now. Even if you give him 2 more Pro Bowls, that’s not really enough.
      When people think of the best RBs of the last decade, where does Forte rank? I think he’s a classic “Hall of Very Good” guy. Really good for a really long time, but rarely truly great, and therefore not a HOFer.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        it is sad that HoF is contingent on something as arbitrary as Pro Bowls.

        • even removing that, I don’t think Forte is HOF worthy.

          • BillW

            I agree but he’ll be in the Ring of Honor for sure.

            Oh wait…

          • johnnywad

            If they win two Superbowls with him as the feature back the equation changes. He’s probably too old though, and sadly, they need the current version to win Superbowls when the defense is ready.

          • SC Dave

            Compared to… George McAfee? Ollie Matson? Floyd Little? Leroy Kelly? Doak Walker?

      • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

        rich Campbell is 26. fuck rich Campbell.

      • The HOF should have an ante-room/hall/building where the likes of Briggs, Peanut and Forte should go. Like the “California Adventure” next to Disneyland.
        You swing your kids by there, buy some them some crackerjacks, then they say, “Are we there yet, Pappa” and you respond, “Son, these were very good players. But we’re building up to the greats. All things come, son, all things come”
        The Hall of Good statues should not be made of bronze, but perhaps something less substantial, like recycled spoons or something.

        • MB30SD

          this has been one of your best posts in recent history.

          Btw, the cali adventure park is actually pretty cool, and not as decrepit as the normal park.

          • “Let’s go the dentist!”
            “Let’s go to church!”
            “Let’s go to Cali adventure!”

            Things you never hear a child say.

      • Cormonster

        I think it’s all going to depend on how things play out over the next 3-4 years. He’s averaged a little over 1,600 yards from scrimmage per year over his career. This year he’s on pace for just under 2,100. Assuming he finishes this year at his current pace, he will have 11,651 total yards. IF he stays healthy and productive for three more years, at 1,600 yards per year, he will have over 16,000 total yards and be in the top 10 all time.

        I don’t think those kind of numbers are unreasonable given Forte’s durability, hard work, and finally being in an offensive system that suits his skills perfectly. He’s actually getting better, not regressing like many backs. Last year was the first time in his career that he actually played behind a good OL.

        I seen a stat the other day listing the most consecutive 1,400 yard from scrimmage seasons to start a career. Curtis Martin had 10, Tomlinson had 8, and Forte and Chris Johnson each had 6. Forte should easily make that 7 seasons this year. Johnson went to the Jets and is having a shitty year, so he probably won’t make it. I know it’s a cherry-picked stat, but it still shows how productive he has been every year of his career.

      • Trac

        I think he would win the category of “best utilized” running back in a generation if there was one.

  • MB30SD
  • Scharfinator
    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      good to see Brendon Ayanbadejo got a job.

    • CanadaBear

      I was flipping between the Fudgies and that game for a few minutes before my Beloved Bride whisked me out the door to go on an art studio tour on one of the little Islands (Gabriola). I was wondering who the announcers were but didn’t watch enough to know the guy was horrid.

      • MB30SD

        fuck canada, happy you’re into it, but so happy it’s you and not me. hahahaha

        “before my Beloved Bride whisked me out the door to go on an art studio tour on one of the little Islands (Gabriola)”

  • TheBigCheesy

    “9 of 10. Want to start a list of players whose idiotic mistakes have helped form the Aaron Rodgers legacy. Chris Conte, Cortland Finnegan…”

    -@dabearsblog

    This is hilariously petty, Jeff. Your fanboy is showing. Why don’t you start a list of players whose idiotic mistakes have helped form Jay Cutler’s legacy. Jay Cutler, Jay Cutler, Jay Cutler…

    • IBNO

      How is it petty to say Aaron Rodgers’ legacy has been helped by people making stupid mistakes? It’s true.

      Sort of like saying Brett Farve’s legacy has been tarnished by his dick pics.

      • TheBigCheesy

        You can say that for just about everyone.

        It’s like saying the Peyton Manning’s legacy was formed by Rex Grossman’s inability to throw the ball to his own team.

        Peyton Manning would be without a Superbowl ring if the Bears offense didn’t play like absolute shit in the superbowl. Peyton was remarkable pedestrian that game. To say that Grossman is responsible for Peyton’s legacy is still pretty outrageous though (at least if you ask me).

        It sounds like Jeff is trying to say that – relative to other successful quarterbacks – Aaron Rodger’s success comes more from other players making stupid mistakes rather than his own superb play. That’s asinine. If anything, Rodgers has probably been limited by his surroundings more so than other quarterbacks (his offensive line has never been good, he didn’t have a running game until recently, his defense has been bad since 2011). The guy is the tits. There is no doubt about it.

        • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

          this last paragraph was one of your worst. There were times that Rodgers had 4 to 5 number 1 WR’s on the same field at the same time…and Finley….and the same scheme for years…and a real playcaller.

          • TheBigCheesy

            4 to 5 number 1 WR’s???

            He had is greatest set of weapons (and success) in 2011. In 2011, Cobb was a rookie. He got 31 targets for the whole season. Driver was wayyy past it. James Jones tested Free Agency that year and no one would even pay him $3 million/per so he re-signed. None of those guys were #1s. Not even close.

            Jennings and Nelson were your “number 1’s” and Jennings missed the final month due to Injury.

          • NewBearInTown

            Rodgers had a much better cast than the Bears that year, you can’t argue that.
            But here’s the thing. Look at the top 4 QBs in the league. They are (and this is universally agreed): Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees. Look at how many receivers they hit in game.
            Manning is rewriting the record books in Denver and he has some really talented guys catching his passes, but he hits 5+ different targets every game. Brady and Manning have both had seasons where all their top guys go on IR and they still put up video game numbers. Rodgers is capable of that as well. He moves the ball around extremely well, and that’s a big strength.
            And on the same note, they get the ball out fast enough that a leaky offensive line can be covered up by quick passes.
            Cutler’s a great quarterback and I’m thrilled we have him long term. But Cutler needs a strong supporting cast to shine. Rodgers is able to stay at an elite level even with a much shakier group around him.
            And that worries me this year because the Bears offense is really only built on four targets.

        • johnnywad

          Its too bad he’s such a penis.

        • NewBearInTown

          Not sure if the term is still used. When I was a kid, we used to describe the other guy in basketball posters as getting “posterized.” Jordan had to jump over *somebody* when he made those impossible shots.
          I have to think the same is true in the NFL. In some respects, its a lot cooler to watch Brandon Marshall push around Derelle Revis back in the day than, say Sam Shields. So its a compliment to a player to be the “one Rodgers beat.” But the vast majority of those plays come when a superstar just totally outclasses a journeyman. Rodgers is a star, Conte is not.
          But in twenty years, I think the clip that survives is Rodgers running untouched between Lach and Briggs for a first down.

          • TheBigCheesy

            That play was pretty awesome. Rodgers also juked Briggs last year to convert on 3rd down on “that” final drive of 2013. Except that was an old and fat lance briggs.

    • GPLDAN
      • TheBigCheesy

        I will never leave. I enjoy you too much.

    • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

      Cheese, I love me some Rodgers. He’s a huge, condescending douche bag but damn can that white boy play football. Favre and Rodgers as back to back quarterbacks is pretty much unfair.
      So is this:
      Here is tiny sneak peak at why Rodgers has had consistent success (in addition to his talent) compared to Cutler. This is just one tiny glimpse with many more examples:
      2011 Packers WR corps:
      Cobb
      Driver
      Jennings
      Jones
      Nelson
      Ross
      2011 Bears WR corps:
      Bennett
      Hester
      Komar
      Sanzenbacher
      Roy fucking Williams
      No, you can’t make this stuff up.

      • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

        you know that coaching, continuity, scheme and personnel have to be there. The Bears never had more than 1 or 2 of those at at the same time. The Packers have. The times are changing now that the garbage of Angelo and Lovie is out and guys that will work to build a football team are in.

        • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

          Max Komar, Dane Sanzenbacher, Williams….. It is almost funny to say it out loud.

          • BillW

            My God I seriously don’t remember Komar at all.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            because he was smaller and whiter than Sanzenbacher if that’s possible.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            speaking of great Dane – saw him catching some balls last weekend for the Bengals.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            yeah, I saw him fumble after barely getting hit. He is an excellent college WR and we’ll leave it at that.

        • Scott W.

          Good post. Every now and then, a reminder like that is important.

      • BillW

        Now for fun let’s relive the glorious offensive line that Cutler had to operate behind with those targets.

        That Cutler stayed in one piece and didn’t give up football shows more guts than Rodgers (oh boo-hoo! 60 minutes called me out for being sensitive, And didn’t mention my charities!) will ever have.

        • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

          I’ve said for years that the only guy that could have survived 2009-2012 in Chicago is Aaron Rodgers or maybe a stout running type qb like Wilson or Kapernick because they would have had to run their fucking asses off to get the hell out of the pocket.
          Rodgers is not afraid of taking shots. Yes, he is a total tool but he has no fear.

      • johnnywad

        You’re bout to get sucked in again. Slippery slope. Fuck that.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Quote from Tillman “One of the things I try to do when I play…or when I was playing…was (to) just be consistent. And so far Kyle has been consistent. That’s all you can ask from a player.”
    I assume he’s done done…or am I reading too much into the fact he specified “when (he) was playing”?

    • IBNO

      You’re reading too much into it, yeah. He was just being Peanut–a smart guy who likes to speak precisely.

    • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

      He also said recently, something to the effect of “I’m just glad that when I played football, you could still hit someone…”

      I think he’s done.

    • He’s done.
      Briggs is gone too I think.
      And that’s pretty much the ’06 leftovers.

      • Garza too. Still here but will be gone after the season.
        That leaves only leftover as Robbie Gould.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I think Briggs had already checked out, mentally.

  • GPLDAN

    Lesbian leads the NFL in sacks at 21.

  • GPLDAN

    You can watch Ronald Darby this Saturday for FSU work on shutting the Irish down.

    He’s some people’s pick as the Bears #1 next year.

    • I’ll take Denzel Perryman or Benardrick McKinney.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        I like Blyrone Blashinton personally.

        • damn you for making me Google that name to figure out what the hell you were talking about.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Slow Tuesday data, gotta keep myself entertained here at work.

      • GPLDAN

        Perryman has that Ray Lewis vibe.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          Killing or HOF ILB play?

          • GPLDAN

            He’s a whirlwind Mike from the Hurricanes who looks like a young Lewis and is playing some dominant football.

        • watching how fast he runs and how violently he hits people… oh man.

      • MB30SD

        Dooooood. McKinny is 6’5, 250 and runs a 4.5?!?!

        Them’s lach type paper stats.

        • yeah, he’s definitely got more prototypical size than Perryman. But I just LOVE the way Perryman plays. Seems like a special talent.

          • MB30SD

            I think we’d be good with either dats

          • I want their 1st round pick to be a LB who can plug and play as a 3-down guy who makes the defensive play calls for the next decade. Doesn’t have to be a stud, just a good solid player against the run and pass.

          • MB30SD

            uhhhhh… Al sharpton?

  • Will Hill playing next week for the Ravens is going to bother me so much. – Jeff

    I remember bloggers were debating whether to roster this guy for 6 weeks. I was a lil on the fence about it since I didn’t know if he was just a stoner, or a cancer. Guess it doesn’t matter now.

  • SC Dave

    Had not really realized it, but the Bears last TD drive was about as good as you could hope for up by six. 15 plays, 87 yards, capped with an 8 poimt TD. Hard to get better…. damn fine job by Cutler and his minions.

    • BillW

      “Cutler and his minions”

      I get it. (Too soon?)

      • CanadaBear

        Never too soon.

        • BillW

          Yeah – just some self-deprecating humor. (Or is that self-defecating humor?)

  • SC Dave

    Oh, and Paea has four (!) sacks, a career high.

    • GPLDAN

      Should we change his nickname from Flatbread to Rollerpin?

    • johnnywad

      Thats a serious number through six games. So do we have to start giving some cred here where its due? I’ve been down on this dude for a while now

      • Cormonster

        First year he’s been healthy since he was a rookie.

  • It’s TUES! Victory MON is over. Time for Fin preview, Blogfather!

    • BillW

      It’s called savoring…

      • I like giving Young and the Restless his due.
        As a matter of fact, I was going to coin my FF team “The Young and the Tress-less”.

        But I really want this sunday to come already!
        I want to see if this previous game was an anomaly, or a trend.

  • MB30SD

    here’s one for ma boy yonny waffle: http://firstwefeast.com/eat/are-flamin-hot-cheetos-what-bagels-were-missing/

    #hotcheetosandtakis

  • MB30SD

    USA! USA! USA!!

    Bring tha fucking noise baby!

    Love this shit.

    • MB30SD

      Ps. the korean team was all lined up and executed after this loss.

  • MB30SD

    you guys wanna see EXACTLY what my ex was like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQj7IufHnBw

    Only a LOT hotter. hahahaha

    • So, I was hanging out with a husband whose wife was out of town. Look in the fridge, “Hey, we need some beers. You already got the Clamato.”
      “Alright. Sounds good.”
      So, we make a run to the supermarket. Get some beers. Then he buys a Clamato.
      “We already had Clamato back at the house.”
      He responds, “Oh, that? No, she bought the before she left to see if I would drink beers.”
      So basically, it was a sort of mouse trap.

      Women. As the saying goes… Can’t live with them, can’t live with them…

      • MB30SD

        fucking clamato?!?!?!

        Jesus that stuff is NASTY!

        • Red Beers. Or bloody mary’s.
          Surprised you don’t drink Micheladas in SD. A lot of coastal towns in Cali serve it.

          • MB30SD

            I don’t do tomatoes maings. disgusting.

            But yeah, I became like that guy to my wife. brutal. I will NEVER be like that again. Chicks suck a lot of the time… and not in the good way.

          • That’s the way one of my best friends is. Been with wife since HS. They have 3 kids.
            We took him to a strip bar, and he was the craziest one. I guess some porn star was there, and she was handing out her vids to the loudest patron.

            My friend won. Said porn star even kissed the vid and left her lipstick imprint on it.

            Then, he gets off the stage, and hands it to me.

            “Don’t you want it?”
            “Are you crazy, Ace? I can’t have that at my house. She’ll kill me!”
            So I have that vid somewhere in a box. Don’t even know if I watched it lol

          • MB30SD

            yep. brutal.

          • GPLDAN

            I became like that guy to my wife. brutal.

            Why?

            Not to turn it into a couch session, but I am actually curious.

          • MB30SD

            In a word GP, she was tougher than me. Plain and simple.

            In real life, I’m 100% alpha male, but I’m also a nice guy by nature… I also want peace and I want to solve problems. That and I tend to be pretty traditional in a LTMR… so my place was to provide and be the man, but also be the logical one that can remove myself from the emotions of things and come up with reasonable, logical solutions.

            Well, that works if the woman is open to that. She comes from a TON of money, and she’s hot, so in the end I think it came down to, “fuck you… we’ll do this my way no matter how unfair or unreasonable, and if you don’t like it fuck you and I’m going to make our house a misery (oh, and you’re not getting laid – which, as you know, for me is the cruelest torture).”

            Well, when it came to that with parenting and not allowing me to be a dad to my kids, I’d had enough. Sure, she could be tough and not make up until she got her way and fight with me for days on end if a beer commercial blipped on the screen with a hot chick, but I would not compromise when it came to my kids. No matter of ‘punishment’ could keep me from wanting equal share of the parenting. I couldn’t live in that environment for long without being abjectly miserable.

            She was boooorn in it, moulded by it!

            So in the end, she was willing to stick out being a cunt to me for almost no reason and I wasn’t. She is tougher than me. My way… or I’m going to make your life fucking miserable. (this also went for rules that she made and broke, but if I even sniffed in the wrong direction, she was on me like white on rice)

            She’s still resentful that I didn’t stay and take it in the pooper any longer than I did. When I said that’s enough, she tried to beat me with the best lawyers her money could buy.

            Anyway… there’s more, but the bottom line is no matter how alpha or argumentative or pigheaded I can be… she blows me out of the water.

            (and no, I’m not a saint. I’m stubborn and I like things my way, but I’m also really fair and ALWAYS revert to that. A weakness in her eyes I guess. Hey, I guess she’s kinda like ISIS. hahaha)

          • Rule of thumb. Never date a girl with a car much nicer than you.
            You’re all welcome, young romeos (not including you MB, you’re an old perv

            lol)

          • MB30SD

            1) I’m not old (beauty is in the eye of the beer holder)

            2) I’m not a perv (by definition a perv is someone who displays UNWANTED sexuality.

            Big diff there skippy.

          • And to that, I say this.

          • MB30SD

            My god that show was turrible after the last ‘original’ cast. What a shell of greatness.

            Oh and look at the pic I sent you earlier again now please

          • BillW

            I’m glad I read that. Respect mb. Seriously

          • GPLDAN

            I bet her money could buy some real pricks. Hopefully they didn’t try and defame you or put lies in the record. She sounds pretty awful.

          • MB30SD

            Naw, she’s actually a good person… we’re just not good together and she was hurt that I asked for the divorce, she wanted to flog me forever. Hahaha. I’m done being a doormat for love maing. Never again

            She has issues due to her upbringing and I was ok putting up with a lot of it cause we loved each other (as much as she knew how to), but when it impacted me being a daddy and what my kids would see, I dropped the mic and walked off the stage.

            So much happier now.

          • SC Dave

            You… stubborn? Really?

          • MB30SD

            Maybe a liiiiittle

      • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

        Al Bundy classic:

      • SC Dave

        What the fuck is Clamato? Gracious…

  • GPLDAN

    L Holmes question 2Night: Is Forte higher than Neal Anderson on the Bears All-time?

    Anderson: 6,166 yards on 1,515 attempts with a total of 51 touchdowns. His average yards per carry was 4.1.

    Forte: 7,065 yards on 1,650 attempts, 37 TDs, 4.3 ypc.

    • Funny. I was just thinking about that last night when someone said Forte was the 2nd best back.
      Sweetness
      Sayers.
      Then it gets murky.
      Always slotted Neal Anderson at #3,
      while some older fans say Willie Gallimore, and some even older ones might argue Bronco Nurguski or Gallaping Ghost.

      I think Forte has taken the #3 spot, though I can see the other arguments.

      • BillW

        My recollection of Willie is seeing my dad truly sad when he died. Sticks with me. That and when he came home from bears 9ers at Wrigley and threw his program down. I hated listening to football on radio (dats right jack) so didn’t know what had happened

      • IBNO

        Red Grange. Plus he was a helluva DB–probably the 2nd-best corner the Bears ever had (after Peanut).

        Not that I saw him play, but the legend got pounded into me, going to the same high school and playing on Grange Field.

        • SC Dave

          Red Grange was nearly, or perhaps more, a reason the NFL exists today as George Halas. Since the latter would never have had the money or publicity to make a go of the league without the former.

      • SC Dave

        Sayers was the best, but he did not have the longevity. In fact, the only competition I’ve seen to Gale Sayers AS A RB was Barry Sanders.

        Then there is the matter of being a football player. In my life, that would be Payton (on offense anyway) followed by Forte. Overall, I have to consider IBNO below on Grange.

    • Cormonster

      I’m a big fan of Neal Anderson, but I’ve thought Forte was better for the last couple years.

      Any thoughts on the new Pink Floyd album? I will probably reluctantly buy it, but don’t have very high hopes. The last album I really liked (loved) was Final Cut. Division Bell and Momentary Lapse of Reason never did much for me. Just not the same without Roger in the band.

      • Some snobs are saying the songs are leftovers from their previous album.
        Glad you reminded me about it though. Bad Pink Floyd is still better than most “good” whatever’s blasting now adays.

        • Cormonster

          True that. There’s a lot of great music right now, but you have to work harder to find it. It sure as shit ain’t on the radio.

          • MB30SD

            you mean the same 5 fucking songs they play over and over again on every fucking station? uhhhhgggg….

          • Cormonster

            I quit listening to music radio stations at least 15 years ago. The only time I hear them is in somebody’s car, on a boat, or the dentist office.

          • MichiganBearFan

            As I like to tell my son, there are no bands like Pink Floyd, or Queen, or Zepplin anymore. Everything he gets is rehashed.

            One time he wanted to buy a Metallica t-shirt from the Justice tour. It was white, which rose my ire. I went into the secret stash and provided for his use one actual tour tee shirt from the 88 Monsters of Rock show. Yes, I am far cooler than you know son.

          • Cormonster

            Were you at the Alpine Valley show?

          • MichiganBearFan

            Only the Friday show. I had my ACT on Saturday.

          • Cormonster

            I was at that one too! We slept outside in the cold to get good seats for that show. Outside of Sears in Kenosha. We got 8th row left-center right in front of about 3 stories of speakers. A lot of kids skipped school that day.

            I loved the And Justice for All…tour. I went four times. The peak of Metallica for me.

          • MichiganBearFan

            Even the Peoria show? I’ve seen M 18 times. That fact still boggles my son’s mind. It’s also sad how much concerts are now. Monsters of Rock tickets were 35 bucks. You can’t get a good whiff of pachuli oil for that money now. Now I do take the kids to a Canadian Brass show now and again…

          • Cormonster

            I seen the Justice tour at Alpine, the Mecca (Milwaukee), the Packer Hall of Fame (with Queensryche), and Rosemont. Peoria was a little too far back in HS. 18 times! Impressive. Do you live anywhere close to Auburn Hills? That venue gets some good shows. There’s a lot of good music out right now, just now superstars like back then.

          • MichiganBearFan

            I’ve only seen Megadeth there. I grew up in the western suburbs of Chicago. My oldest daughter plays double bass. When she wears her jean jacket, I call her Cliff. She’ll catch on soon enough.

          • SC Dave

            Metallica was just a Sabbath wannabe. As re-hash, if you will

          • MichiganBearFan

            Not really, but if it makes you feel better, all metal has a little Sabbath.

          • Scott W.

            This, emphatically.
            I wind up stumbling across good music anymore. Never, ever on radio. I have a full 2 year Sirius XM subscription that came with the new vehicle I bought. It’s depressing, what with all the air space they have, they devote it to incredibly crappy tunes.

      • BillW

        Is it out yet? Will buy it digitally first for completeness

        • Cormonster

          I think it comes out on November 9th.

      • SC Dave

        Right with you on the Forte thing, although I may have started a year earlier; Neal Anderson may *still* be the most underrated Bears HB. But Matt Forte is better than Anderson was, IMO.

      • GPLDAN

        Waters/Gilmore had a Lennon/McCartney dynamic of melody and lyric content, but they couldn’t deal with each other. Roger probably never let himself think the band wasn’t him and Syd even years after.

        Endless River is Division Bell B-sides. yeah… uh… no.

        The cover bands like Aussie Floyd cover one song from that album, the title song. Outside of that, it’s just not my bag.

        • SC Dave

          Sorry. Lennon/McCartney >> Waters/Gilmore

    • MB30SD

      at this point I have to stick with Neal. Maybe for nostalgic reasons alone.

      Couple more years and it won’t be a contest any more.

    • BillW

      Consider the game was more run oriented back then. . I assume those are rushing yardage numbers only

  • MB30SD

    GP’s and Data’s discussion about MLBs in the draft next year is a goooood one.

    Man there are a couple kids that would make trac and dave’s night

    http://qa.secsports.com/video/11638447/benardrick-mckinney – 6’5, 250, 4.5 40

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NZbhgf33sg – 6′, 245, 4.7

    • SC Dave

      As a public service to anyone that might want to watch that trash from the SEC network, skip to 1:58 of the 2:11 second to watch a couple of plays, as there is no football until that point. Sorry, not impressed.

      Guess I will try to watch the other, but any asshole writing about hits that would make “Butkus blush’ whilst extolling this kid as a semi-finalist for THE BUKTUS AWARD has got to be the most crude form of tool that I can imagine.

      I was thinking for most of the Perryman video that “shit, if this kid learns to wrap up…”, and then I saw #3 and a little later #1. Me likey. A lot.

      • MB30SD

        They both look like beasts.

        oh and if you were one of the 7 dwarfs, you’d definitely be gumpy. Ha

        • SC Dave

          Probably, although it depends on the day.

          Maybe McKinney is something too, but you’d never know from that video, dude.

          • MB30SD

            Yeah, too lazy to find another. It was listed like 5 times so I said fuck it.

            He’s 6’5″, 250 and runs a 4.5. Dude is an animal

          • SC Dave

            So was Cornelius W, and that did us little good.

    • NewBearInTown

      You’ll laugh MB, but as I look at our team right now and where we are weakest. I want to see us go o-line again in the first round of the draft. Mills might be a decent depth guy, but we need another A rated guy on the right side. If that guy is Kyle Long, we need another guard. Either way, I am convinced by what I see on teams like Dallas and San Francisco that stocking up on linemen is almost never a bad plan.

      But I will not even start thinking of names until the season is over.

      • MB30SD

        I understand that logic and why you would say that nb. And if Sharpton keeps having games like sunday, we might not need a new lach.

        Now, my only issue will be that we still and always have DESPERATELY need a blue chip player at fs from somewhere

        • NewBearInTown

          I don’t disagree with that. I’m just looking at the last few drafts and I don’t see a strong correlation between draft pedigree and success at FS.

          On the lines however, there is a huge correlation. We could use youth at DE and a starter at OT. That’s where the first rounder goes.

      • I can see that, but I still want a stud DT. Nothing disrupts a QB like Stafford or Vadgers like interior penetration, that’s how the Lions the Pack to 7 points.
        I can’t even name anyone in their secondary or LB corps

        • Cormonster

          Deandre Levy is pretty badass.

        • NewBearInTown

          You look at Seattle and you see the blueprint for winning with a monster secondary (and a productive outside pass rush). You look at Detroit (or Houston) and you see the blueprint for winning from the inside out.
          There are different ways to win the game. The only reason I don’t favor grabbing a DT is that Paea is looking solid, Ratliff is an anchor and we just drafted two very promising rookies in Ego and Sutton. Paea would go if we bring a stud in, but there are weaker players elsewhere to replace.
          Do you want to replace Mills or Paea first? MB wants to replace Conte. I can’t argue with that either.

          • I’m not entirely sold on Paea, and Ratliff is good, but old and will be on his last year next season.
            Ego and Sutton look OK, but they’re not studs.
            Now, if by the end of the season they look very promising, and Paea stays healthy (though I don’t like paying big $ for defensive players with big #s in their contract year when they showed little before), then I’ll change my tune. But I still say you can’t have enough DTs or DEs, preferably DTs.
            There’s so many variables, but if a studly RT or DT fall in our lap, I’m taking the DT every time.
            Mills I think is still recovering from the foot inj, if not, maybe Ola can move over to RT.

            I don’t think Emery will go for Oline next draft barring something catastrophic.

      • Ososfan

        Yes! Another “O line in first round” hopeful. I agree 100%!!

  • Trac

    Detroit has a stout defense this year and I wish we could be as great as they are. sigh

    • MB30SD

      ?!?!?!?! What the….

      • Trac

        Hahahaha. Lookie what I caught. Lmao!

        • MB30SD

          Smhay

      • SC Dave

        No shit MB! What?!?

    • SC Dave

      *cough* What? As great as THE LIONS?!?

      Be careful what you ask for, Trac!

    • Cormonster

      Detroit’s defense has been top notch this year. I’ve watched two full games and half of two others. That D-line is dominating so far, with Suh and Fairley creating constant pressure and blowing plays up. They’ve also had some great blitz and coverage schemes.

      So who the hell is their defensive coordinator named Teryl Austin? Before the Lions job this year, he was a defensive coordinator for one year at Florida in 2010. Otherwise he’s just been a positional coach journeyman.

      Whatever the Lions are doing on D, it’s working.

      The Lions offense (and special teams) is another story. They are not producing without a healthy Calvin Johnson. Golden Tate is playing well, but he ain’t no Calvin. The Lions have no run game.

      Net net is I think the Lions are going to be a tough win this year if they stay healthy. That defense is just dominating teams.

  • Shady

    ALCS baseball alert MB, Mike Mous-hot-cheetos-and-takas just had one of the best over-the-railing catches I’ve ever seen. Should be on Deadspin soon…

  • Shady

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    I’m scooping Audibles tomorrow but here’s the most amazing Bears turnaround of 2014: they are ranked 10th against the run.

    “AMAZING” – such an overused word these days, what does it mean anymore? I’m not AMAZED the Bears are stopping the run, they SHOULD be stopping the run. Emery brought back Ratliff, signed Houston, Young and Allen. He spent two of his first three picks in the draft on defensive tackles. The linebackers are all built to stop the run. Frankly, I’d be amazed if the Bears WEREN’T stopping the run. I AM amazed that Willie Young and Paea have so many sacks. I AM amzazed the Kyle Fuller is more than holding his own against elite receivers. I am NOT amazed, however, that the Bears have been able to improve against the run and have earned the right to rush the passer.

    Where do they rank against the pass?

    • Are you AMAZED at my FF trade proposal? eh, eh?

      • Shady

        Send Marshawn Lynch, Sea RB from RB to 4v85
        Send Knile Davis, KC RB from Bench to 4v85
        Receive Storm Johnson, Jac RB from 4v85 to Bench
        Receive Marques Colston, NO WR from 4v85 to Bench
        Receive Kelvin Benjamin, Car WR from 4v85 to Bench
        Receive Ronnie Hillman, Den RB from 4v85 to Bench

        Proposed by ClintHurtt Locker (KissMy Butkus), Oct 14, 1:59 PM (ET)
        Trade offer expires at approximately Oct 16, 1:59 PM (ET)

        No.

        • Shady

          Send Marshawn Lynch, Sea RB from RB to EGO
          Receive Calvin Johnson, Det WR from EGO to Bench

          Proposed by Ego Mania (GPL Dan), Oct 14, 3:14 PM (ET)
          Trade offer expires at approximately Oct 19, 3:14 PM (ET)

          Not as bad as ^, but still nope.

          • haha. You’re .500 Calvin is gonna be hurt till week 9 or later.
            You gotta a bunch of scrubs at WRs and Flex. Brees might be able to carry you, but he’s been about equal to Dalton this season. You’re in do-do.

          • Shady

            Both my WRs are in the top 15 for total points this season. Bonus points for return yards. Just picked up Bush for my flex. I’ve got you suckers right where I want you! muahahahaha

          • You’re seriously gonna gamble on Patterson (who scored a combined 4 points in the last two weeks), Lacy (who is getting phased out cuz he’s fat) and Bush (who is inj and getting out touched by Joque Bell)?
            I think you’re better off with my trade
            #clamatopower

          • Shady

            Chu ain’t getting him maings. Not. Gonna. Happen.

            #Justsaynotoclamato

          • MB30SD

            You guys are fucking killing me right now. Hilarious

        • Well, I made a similar proposal to Waffle.
          I’m 5-1 avg 140 points per game. Worth a try.
          (btw, Hillman scored 21 points last week, 11 more than Lynch).

      • NewBearInTown

        Saw the writing on the wall after the thrashing I gave you huh? I feel like the Miami Dolphins, knocking off the undefeated team while my own flawed roster gives me little hope for the playoffs.

        Since folks are talking trades, I need some help at WR and TE. I’ve got a bunch of waiver wire moves coming in the morning, but I’m open for business if anyone is interested.

        • I thought I had waiver priority over you, but nope, it got reset so I was last again cuz I’m #1.
          Won’t matter. The Ravens won’t play the Bucs every week, nor will my stud Charles be on byes any more.
          I have two TEs. Cameron and Donnell (both top 5 TEs).
          If you want to get rid of Alf for either plus Colston + Storm Johnson, I can do that.
          Alf is basically a 2 down back who is only effective when the Skins aren’t behind, which is almost never, but I need HB depth.

          • NewBearInTown

            I will crunch the numbers and get back to you. I think we can do business – I have some good depth at running back.

          • Shady

            Don’t do it NB. He’ll use his clamato charm and mayonnaise misdirection to take advantage of you. DON’T. DO. IT.

          • You don’t win FF championships with Heath freakin Miller.
            That’ll be a liability for him all year, esp in the playoffs.
            HBs can be scooped up off waiver wires when someone goes down.

            #clamatologic

          • NewBearInTown

            The problem with your two TE prospects is that they’re both pretty inconsistent. ALF is a consistent Flex guy at a minimum, if not a weekly starting RB.
            Now, TOBI has Dwayne Allen sitting on his bench. I have to wonder what it would take to do business over there…

          • ALL TEs not named Graham (who might be out now) are relatively inconsistent.
            The difference is, my TEs can score 20+, and their floors are about 5 on most weeks, while the Heath Miller’s of the world will be lucky to crack 10.
            Well, Tobster needs the help, though who knows what he wants lol

          • NewBearInTown

            Wow, I just realized I am the Jerry Angelo of fantasy football. Looking for players with high floors.

          • Sadly, no pool jumpers on my roster, though my TEs can get traded for a 3rd.

          • MB30SD

            Hahaha

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