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Whew…It was just a preseason game

| August 23rd, 2014

  •  In 2013, the Detroit Lions beat the New England Patriots 40-9, the St. Louis Rams led the Denver Broncos 20-10 at halftime and Seahawks star Russell Wilson threw two interceptions as his team struggled to move the ball, heading into halftime tied 3-3 with the Packers. Those were all the supposedly important third preseason games. See what I’m getting at there?
  • Seattle is better than the Bears right now. They’re better than everybody right now. Who was the best team three weeks into preseason last year? Not Seattle, New England or Denver. The season is long, a lot will happen between now and January.

  • The Bears offensive starters looked pissed at halftime. Of course they did, they’re competitors. But there was very little game planning. One of the Bears strength’s is that their coach is great at designing gameplans, they didn’t use that strength in this game. Or any preseason game.
  • They also had a lot that just didn’t go their way. Cutler had three passes (two on one drive) that very easily could’ve been touchdowns, but they weren’t. One was dropped, one was inches short and the other was taken away on a bogus penalty.
  • Pete Carroll took this game more seriously than Trestman. He had his star safety returning punts, his star receiver returning kicks and challenged a catch in the fourth quarter. He kept his starting offense and defense in against the Bears backup units. Trestman talked about taking the game seriously, but also said they’d only game plan “a little.”
  • Ultimately, preseasons are glorified practices, teams use them to improve. The Bears have some good film to use to improve.
  • If the NFL does stick with these “points of emphasis” in the regular season, they will ruin the game. That pass interference call on Marshall…I mean, seriously?
  • It was funny when so many started bashing Cutler for not checking down to Forte on a third down. Because they want Forte to take unnecessary hits?
  • I’d have to take another look at the tape, but I think it’s safe to say every defender will get a failing grade from the coaches? Maybe not Willie Young, but I’m not even so sure on that one.
  • Keep in mind the Bears were without two key defenders in Jared Allen and Kyle Fuller. I also don’t think they’ve played their starting safeties yet. To beat Seattle in Seattle at any point, the Bears — and every other team in the league — have to be at their best.
  • Chris Conte is the best safety this team has. I’m not even complimenting Conte, Emery didn’t do a good job of improving the competition at that position. Of course, now Conte has a concussion. It will be hard for him to win the job if he can’t stay on the field.
  • Why do the Bears even bother with blocking tight ends? Just play an extra tackle like they did last year.
  • Jordan Palmer is not a good player. This isn’t Josh McCown all over again, McCown had talent.
  • I still don’t get why Kelvin Hayden is on the roster. Is there anything he’s good at?
  • If Morgan Michael Spurlock is going to kneel on the ball while trying to win the job as the team’s kick returner, maybe he doesn’t deserve it. Then again, who else is taking the job?
  • I’m less worried about the Bears special teams than everyone else. They still don’t know who will be playing on each unit when the season starts. They started poorly last year too. Of course, Dave Toub never started poorly, but he’s the best special teams coach to ever exist.
  • Seattle has a lot more depth than the Bears because they’ve hit in recent drafts and with some undrafted free agents. The Bears don’t have even a good success rate at either, even under Emery.

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  • CanadaBear

    Holy shit that was brutal. The LB’s are scary bad. Of course the safety play was bad. Conte came in all jacked and laid some wood. Of course he missed a couple of tackles and then knocked himself out. Fuck. Briggsy looked very #54-like chasing Wilson on the TD. Williams was always late. Bostic seems like a rube in the big city. Lost at every turn. CD is worse. This isn’t going to end well. The O looked OK except for the drops. Still no run game. ST’s are going to cost us a couple of games this year.

    • johnnywad

      I couldn’t watch the game CBear. Did Briggs look like good, young 54 or old, slow 54?

      • CanadaBear

        Old, slow #54. Wilson got around the corner on Briggs and practically skipped in. Williams was late to the party almost every time. Bostic had a couple of good plays and then a bunch of not so good plays. CD made a play or two but as you might guess, he was faked out about a million times on the play action rollout. Peanut didn’t look great but I’m not worried about him.

        The play before Cutler threw the pick (which was a horrible decision) he hit Jeffery for a TD and they called Marshall for offensive pass interference. Brutal call. BMarsh went down about 4 yds (in the end zone) hit the top of his route and cut to the sidelines. That was it. Sherman and BMarsh had a tiny collision at the top of the route and they called that. Unreal. There wasn’t one part of the game that gave me a warm fuzzy.

        • That top of the route shit is going to be the most ANNOYING call ever. They can literally call that every play on either the WR or CB. It’s going to seem arbitrary, and it’s going to cost a team a play-off berth. Book it.

        • johnnywad

          Is it possible that starting LBs are Briggs, Bostic and Greene? Sounds like the Bostic arrow might possibly be pointing up. I haven’t been able to watch much preseason and I don’t here many bitching about Greene. How is he playing? Good enough to play opposite Briggs?

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t remember Greene making any plays but I also don’t remember him being responsible for any big plays by the O.

          • the Bostic arrow is not pointing up. He and McClellin are both still struggling to make correct reads.

    • SC Dave

      Glad I didn’t watch. Looking at the box score, it is more and more apparent that Decamillis has to go. How is it that he is “Assistant Head Coach”? Wouldn’t you think that he should be worth half a shit as Special Teams Coordinator to have a second role also?

      • bearsfantillend

        The Assistant Head Coach in this case is most likely just a title to allow him to get out of the contract he was under with the Cowboys. Most NFL teams are hesitant to let a coach move on while they are under contract if it is not a promotion. Cowboys had blocked him from leaving a couple years ago to go to the Raiders since it was not actually a promotion from his current job.

        • SC Dave

          Ah… ok. Thanks.

      • CanadaBear

        I’m not ready to launch Camel Toe just yet because he has shit to work with. All these guys bitching about Hester for the last 2-3 years are going to get what they asked for. Don’t think they will be thanking anyone and asking for another.

        • Trac

          The Bears didn’t sign Hester because fans were bitching. They passed on him for cap space and they passed on him because he was NOT the player they drafted and he was a Lovie Guy with a broken game. Not being able to keep Toub was huge!!!!

          • CanadaBear

            I know that Trac. My point was everyone wanted to launch Devin but we have no one to replace him. He was exactly who they drafted. He was always a great returner with no position when they drafted him and nothing ever changed. Devin was hardly blameless in the non-development.

      • Outside of Podlesh sucking (not his fault), the ST were just as good last year as Toub’s last year in 2012. Calm down.

        Until ST are a problem for the regular season, I’m not really worried. Bears used to make roster decisions very early and get those guys ST reps together. It’s not happening now that they have better depth and competition. So it will take a couple weeks.

    • no run game? They didn’t run it much, but were fairly effective when they did. Top 2 backs (Forte and Carey) combined for 7 carries for 32 yards. 4.5 ypc is plenty good.

      • CanadaBear

        Forte got 11 on his first carry. After that, it was 2 yds/carry for those 2. Not good.

  • Paul Stuart

    I did set my alarm for 3 am…But went back to sleep instead. Would have got out of bed for a regular season game of course…Ultimately though, it sounds like this sport didn’t need my supportive concious will last night. As it will be ruined by the point of emphasis penalties. If they keep doing it, certain parties would be able to manipulate the outcome of a game quite easily.

    If I were a cartoonist I would sketch a couple of game officials crowded around the replay booth holding a couple of x-box controllers situated in a dog fighting pit surrounded by a carousel of industry lobbyists waving fistfuls of cash at the “action”. Goodell would be lurking, taking the “bets” wearing a visor with his sleeves rolled up.

    How the bears did in this particular game will prove to be about as relevant as lil’ Jimmy’s latest round of Madden with his Dad.

  • Trac

    Calling Murph, calling Murph. Are you going to join Butchs ff league?

  • Trac

    TUCKER? Get your ass over here and give me 50!

  • Trac

    What I feared the most may have come upon us. Last nights LB play IS EXACTLY why I wanted Mosely.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Mosely looks like a weakness in pass defense. I’ll take Fuller 500 times out of 100 for every reason possible.

      • he hasn’t played the last 2 games, but looked really solid against a brutal PHI offense and got rave reviews in camp.

        If he’s as good as advertised, the Bears have a really good trio of CBs who will be on the field most plays. That plus a strong DL really helps the D.

        Remember how good the starters looked against PHI. This D won’t consistently be amazing, but they won’t be awful either. Unless guys start getting hurt.

        The key players for me are Tillman and Briggs. They need Briggs playing like a stud, period. And if Hayden is gonna be the first CB off the bench (even though McManis looks 100x better), they need Tillman healthy and playing well.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          The Bears have a clear lack of depth at the D backers.They don’t have 4 starters, yet alone reserves.
          Fuller is a playmaker. As I see him he could play all the roles on the back side… ourside CB, slot, that S/CB Woodson role, nickel LB, maybe classical S if need be. He’s that kind of a player…a playmaker. Belichick would have loved him.

          • a starting 5 of Tillman, Jennings, Fuller, Conte, and Mundy is one of the top 10 secondaries in the NFL, IMO. The DL and CBs should be really good, safeties adequate. LB concerns me.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Tillman, Jennings, Fuller could be a Top 5 CB corp if Fuller is who we think he is, but there’s no way that safety pair gets them into top 10 secondaries in the NFL. The LB corp is in the 25-30 region at this point.

  • GPLDAN

    Just because we are giving washouts with no guts like Spurlock the chance to take a knee, doesn’t mean Hester getting booted was a bad call. Hester was done, at least done with the Bears.

    Fergie and Sutton looked better this game. Fuller did not play. We stayed 4-3 with CD even when the Seahawks were 3 wide. Twice, when they split out the backfield RB to the SE position, it was Shae who lined up with that back. Nothing is more disconcerting that looking at a formation where it appears Shae is playing corner. But he stayed with his guys, he is really not bad at coverage.

    Conte laid wood to dislodge the TD but then got smoked in an open field sweep and bumped his head. He can’t be challenging big backs, he always always gets hurt doing that.

    Houston, Ratliff, Paea and Young are going to get GASHED in the regular season against the run. GASHED.

    By late 2nd, Tresticle had seen enough and had Ego in there to stuff the run up. And it worked. Ego is your starter, Paea and his quickie swimmie moves are best suited for passing downs or 2nd and long.

    Anybody think Tillman has another gear that he can click into once the season starts?

    Wilson is a mess at safety. Way, way too slow.

    • Doc Hamstring

      In 2012 people were calling for Tillman to be cut–not just benched–after his preseason performances, particularly in the Giants game.

      Then he had a career season and went to the Pro Bowl.

      Do not worry about Peanut. He will be Peanut.

      • Trac

        What do you get when you put a g-string on a hamster? Yuk yuk yuk.

    • CanadaBear

      Hester may have been done here but he’s light years ahead of anyone we have back there. Maybe C. Williams will be the guy but he can’t seem to get on the field. The other guys are just that.

      I agree our run D will get gashed. Of course, our passing D is going to get gashed too. I didn’t see any improvement on D from last year. I know it’s preseason but our D looks the same and the ST’s are worse. Fuck me!

      • MB30SD

        misplaced canada. this has nothing to do with hester. Another year of lost speed and the sheite dcamilis is putting out there would have made him look even worse.

        It has nothing to do with hester and everything to do with DeCamilis’ system and squad. Cutting hester was 100% the right thing to do.

        • CanadaBear

          They didn’t cut him. They didn’t re-sign him. Either way, I watched the entire game (unlike you) and every KO return was the same. No matter who was back there it was straight up the gut into a pile of players. Getting stopped around the 17. Good to great returners it’s all instinct and speed. Devin lost some speed but he still had instincts. Reynaud fielded a punt and got completely blown up a millisecond later. He hung onto the ball. He might be OK and C. Williams might be OK if he can get on the field. The other guys, cannon fodder.

    • yeah, the rookie DTs both looked considerably more like NFL players in this game than the first 2 weeks.

      I think the DL is going to be pretty good against the run. Houston is arguably the best 4-3 DE in the NFL against the run. Paea is a good run defender too. Bears’ starting D has been solid-not great, but solid-against the run so far this preseason. And most of the mistakes I’ve seen have been LBs filling the wrong hole or getting there too late.

  • Trac

    “The good part about it is we’re going to be able to make corrections,” said coach Marc Trestman. “We think a lot of this is fixable, it really is. We’ll do that and then we’ll be able to see how we’re tied together in all three phases because clearly we lost the game in all three phases.”

    You better hope so buddy!

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Carroll didn’t ‘this game more seriously than Trestman’. They played as they practice and practice as they play. They have stars playing on ST. Always did.
    I think Paea, Conte and Willie Young will receive good grades from the coaches. Houson also and maybe Sutton.

    My thoughts :
    I feared this game for injuries. The Seahawks are nasty and there’s wicked competition in their ranks. Recipe for disaster. Losing for only ‘minor’ things the 2 starting S and the FB seams like a win.

    I liked the Defense. It looked good, better they I aspected 2 months ago. The 3 problems I saw were the bad tacking & losing of the contain at an individual level and the weakness of the scheme against bootlegs. The first 2 are only natural and it’ll be better in time, but I’m preoccupied by the third. The Bears play teams that use roll out QBs this year. Think 49ers in Weeks 2. Kaepernick is going to kill them.

    The Offense will be better this year, because Cutler (and the OLine) will be better. I liked the fact that they didn’t bother to run the ball against their front. You won’t do damage and will risk injury to Forte. Please don’t. I also like Carey… he does good things in every phase. That stupid color commentator put the blame on him for a sack allowed in pass protection on a play when 2 defenders hit Palmer at the same time with another one close by. Really moron ? Carey is good in pass protection at this point.

    The ST are bad at every level bar Gould. The rookie punter opted for the middle of the fiend every time. What a fuck is that ? He then saves a returned TD after a 40-45 yard punt in the middle of the fiend. Are you crazy or what ? Bad, bad, bad.

    Around the NFL:
    – first snap of Kelen David with the Giants… he let’s Colpes go by him without touching him in a run play. 5 yards lost, drive killed. What a bum…our ex starting TE. Holly shit

    -New England has a fantastic team. Incredible depth. The Bears should trade for some of their likely cuts. Tacking them on the wire it’s not an option. They have incredible depth at RB, LB and Secondary. Very solid ST group… at least. The bad news ? The Bears didn’t have scouts at New England’s game last night. They should have. They have the second best depth in the NFL afted Seattle and will have to cut some very good elements. It’s a blood bath for roster spots in those 2 joints.

  • Big Mike

    bears sucked last night. But so what. Would have been nice to have a better game. Changes nothing. Arrow is still up! Everything we know that is a weakness about this team showed up. No defensive schemes to cover deficiencies. No margin for error against best team in the NFL. Bears made a bunch.

    Hopefully next week in the scrimmage against Cleveland special teams get organized and someone smacks Manziel

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Yeah, the “Point of Emphasis” list is bogus. It is extremely dicey that the NFL would even do this. It makes people, especially the teams think, “Ok, so is the NFL implying that the referees should change their decision-making to enforce certain rules much stronger than others?”

    The “Point of Emphasis” should have never even been a memo or a topic that was discussed by the higher-ups and then publicly released because the psychology of the entire thing affects the game and play style. It’s going to create controversies and conspiracy theories, and you can bet there will be several games that are decided by the ref’s “point of emphasis” rules.

    This is up there in terms of some of the bone-headed ways of the NFL doing things, like pushing the London games down our throat and the debacle that is the Pro Bowl.

  • beninnorcal

    I miss Toub. Take out the atrociuos ST play last nite and then we’re an Alshon drop and a bad call from a competitive game.
    That’s not including the Briggs late hit which made me curse his name, that coulda been a stop in the making there.

  • beninnorcal

    But I’d much rather see our boys humiliated in preseason as opposed to a real game. It felt dirty to watch, and I know Seattle’s the better team, but I don’t think the Bears are THAT much worse.
    I remember 2 years ago when they drove the field on us twice late in the game and we still took them to OT(and lost). Their arrow and our arrow were pointed in different directions. I still say we improved from last year.

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    If not, there’s like 10 guys in the wing that want to join. As they say in “Evil Dead” …Join us….

  • I was looking for a youtube clip that was equally as horrific and offensive as our team last night. I think I found it.

  • MB30SD

    meh, we got our asses beat in every phase, but who cares. I’ve learnt over the last 3 years that this stuff means nothing. Besides, seattle looks even stronger than last year, but who knows what will happen during the season. Injuries, luck, bad calls… it’s all going to shake out very differently than the preseason.

    Couple things that are a big concern for me:
    * Tucker
    * DeCamilis

    That said, let’s see what happens in real games with real plays and game planning. I think we all got VERY spoiled with Toub… that and specials probably take the most time to gel as a unit cause they’re a frankenstein of players.

    I only saw a few pays (fucking bar couldn’t find the game, and by the time they did it was already 21 – 0). that and my buddy and I were chatting up a couple cuties.

    Dave you’ll get a kick out of this… the 3 plays I happened to look up and see from start to finish, were all conte whiffing tackles. I shit you not. I had to laugh at that. You guys all said he played tough, so I’ll withhold judgement till I watch the tape today or tomorrow… but at least on 3 plays, homie is still the worst tackler I’ve ever seen. Didn’t see any CD or Bostic, or McCray… but yonny still seems to think he’s doggie poo… so I’ll look for that too.

    • Conte actually laid some wood on 2 plays.
      Then, of course, he knocked himself out.

      • MB30SD

        yeah, I read the thread last night when I got home.

        His issue isn’t timidity or coming up on run fill, it’s open field stuff… angles and open field tackles. his brain just can’t seem to the the geometry on the run. As for the concussion… brutal.

        • SC Dave

          Yeah, like the dude needed that. It may be the last straw for him – will they keep him if he can’t play until week 3 of the regular season?

          • MB30SD

            maybe if the other guys are that bad. I will look at the tape, but I don’t see what yonny sees re: McCray. I see a guy who can be decent with more snaps. The dude isn’t barron, or reid, or thomas, but he’s also a much better tackler and angle taker than conte… who I think might be the better overall athlete.

          • For your consideration….

            McCray is a matador, you know what that means MB. I could trot you out there to be 2 seconds late to every play

          • MB30SD

            Shit, if it was only 2 I’d be ok with giving it the ‘ol college.

            More like on the sideline with a hammy after the first play.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I’ve seen you chase tail, 30…if we just pinned a wig on the receiver, I guarantee your hammy would be fine.

      • if Conte is healthy by week 1 (real possibility depending on concussion severity), Bears have Mundy at SS and Conte at FS and that is a perfectly fine duo behind a very impressive DL.

        The concern is the LBs. They need Briggs playing well (like last year pre-injury) and somebody from DJ/Bostic/Shea to not suck.

  • For your consideration….

    Plays to take out of the playbook:

    Rosario lining up at fullback, Mulligan in at 2nd TE and watching both of them plus Ola get their fucking asses kicked on the 1st and half of a foot line. Is that the “take all pass receiving threats and see if we can score” lineup?

    Replay of Marshall Offensive Pass Interference Calls:

    From the 2 yard line Sherman lines up right over Marshall and immediately makes contact off of the snap because he doesn’t back pedal into coverage, marshall, in order to run forward in a straight fucking line has to make contact with Sherman who doesn’t even move, at 5 yards Marshall breaks off and is called for Pass Interference. Fucking disgraceful call and it’s ruining the game.

    Cutlers interception, the center snaps it in shotgun while Jay is talking to Carey about blocking assignments. Fucked up from the start but only necessary because of one of the worst calls of the preseason. unfuckng real.

    • MB30SD

      Oh, I saw that play too… the refs are seriously destroying this game. this BETTER be a preseason thing man, or I swear the refs are going to change the outcome of 1 out of every 2 games. it’s a total fucking disgrace. Rodger goodell you are a fucking pox on this beautiful game of ours you cunt

    • “Jay is talking to Carey” because he’s fucking puke on a bar floor at 7:30am

      • MB30SD

        woooooow.

        Barbarian doesn’t thing so.

        Debate!

        • Barbarian also thought our D was good last night. Must have really strong beer in Romania.

          • MB30SD

            no, he said he liked what he saw and there’s potential. I tend to agree. Look, they’re not going to be 2012 or 2006, but we should be in 15-20 range… and if specials can get cleaned up the o should get us the rest of the way.

          • I think our Dline got good pressure, but lost contain. With a game plan (and Allen), this won’t be as much of an issue.
            HOWEVER, our D still looked completely lost as a unit. For those sayng, “It’s only preseason”, well, the Seahawks DID NOT look lost, and they’re the world champs, so use logic.
            It will be a miracle if our D and Specials hover around 15.

          • MB30SD

            then I’m prayin for a miracle baby!

            And yeah, seattle looked vicious.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            They lost contain and tackled badly. The problem here is the second one.
            I liked how the D looked because you saw man coverage, blitzes and different looks with the S moving around. So the scheme looked aggressive. That’s what you want. No more pussy shit ‘bend, but don’t break’ crap.
            The Bears have to take risks on D in order to create turnovers. They have to stop the run and play nickel as much as possible. I envision this year D as a nickel D. That’s because I want the best players and play makers on the field and Fuller is one of these. I want Fuller on the field instead of Bostic, McClellin or DJ Williams.
            When you play nickel you can be better with “man coverages, blitzes and different looks with the S moving around”.
            Guys…I told you these stuff before the draft. You’re welcome.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Talk about having problems with the english language. I said the Defense
            ‘looked’ nice/good. I never said that the ‘Defense was good’.

            So from the Cutler interception snap people learned that ‘Carey doesn’t understand the protection call?”. How about ‘ THE FUCKING CENTER, 10 YEARS VETERAN, CAPITAN, LEADER SNAPS THE FUCKING BALL IN FREESTYLE MODE WHEN THE QB ISN’T READY.” !!!!!!! Or “THE 18+MIL/YEAR QB RISKS A THROW UNAWARE OF THE DEFENDERS POSITION INSTEAD OF THROWING THE BALL AWAY IN THE RED ZONE”????

            Mannnnnnnnnn !!!

          • MB30SD

            Easy tiger… debate. You brig good points and a fresh perspective. You don’t have to go apeshit killing regs erra time maing.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I’m the leopard kind of man. I accept debate, but who’s debating ? Carey is shit. It’s done. He did have 15 yards or 4 carries and 27 yards for 4 catches, but who’s counting ? He’s on he roster bubble… it’s set.

            I’m pissed about Carey from last night… the color commentator -a huge moron l can tell you that- blamed Carey for a 3 man sack. better said 2.5 sack, because one defender was 1 yard away, but already beat his man.

          • The SEA Offense, not exactly the most prolific of offenses, scored on every drive. The D ‘looked nice’ at times, but that’s like saying the elephant man looked nice from certain angles.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            They scored like 60+ points in the SuperBowl half a year ago. They are not the most prolific of offenses because they don’t need to. They play defense, run the ball and high % passes. So, of course they are not the most prolific.
            They still finished last year 8th in points scored (returns included). Before teams like Colts, New Orleans, Detroit adn the packers (that’s a fluke because of Rodgers injury )

          • they were the 8th best scoring team last year, and that’s with trying to run out the clock more than score in the 4th quarter of most games.

            Russel Wilson is the best <30 QB in the NFL and probably the 5th best overall QB in the NFL. Seattle is just freaking good. Bears' DL got a lot of pressure on him, but he kept escaping. A less incredible QB would have been sacked 4+ times in the first half, ending a lot of those TD drives.

      • For your consideration….

        You are not Careys biggest fan.

        • MB30SD

          I saw a play where draughn worked for some extra yards and a first. he looked ok

          • Trestman didn’t even want to run him on goaline. He also whiffed on two blocks. He doesn’t play specials. He can’t run. Other than that, he’s good.

          • MB30SD

            uhhh, ok.

          • I’m still talking about carey, btw. I might like him less than you like hayden, tho it’s close

          • MB30SD

            Hahaha… how does your hate rank vs. My conte and/or cd dislike?

          • It’s up there.
            More worrisome was how fat and old and slow Briggs looked. I hope this is like Peanut a few years back, but LBs can get old in one year.
            #uralacher

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Carey played ST last night.

          • And our specials ROCKED it.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            So when you say “He doesn’t play specials” you mean “He was part of the ST that sucked”.

            Fucking great… so now Carey is responsable for these peaches: a 3 man sack of Palmer (he should have blocked at least 2 of them), Cutler’s interception (is his new nickname Garza?) and the bad STs (he should personally punt the football 60 yard on the sideline and then run fast in order to force a free catch or tackle for loss the return man).

            Carey is at blame for the LV and S play as well. We have to find something. Maybe ‘he is bad in practice so the LBs and Ss aren’t trained at the high level of their talent’.

          • Carey did not block well, period. That’s supposed to be his “strength” cuz it ain’t running.
            Did his man get the sack? Doesn’t matter. He WHIFFED at least twice. in one play Cutler was practically drawing a diagram for him as to who to block, and he still missed.

          • Also, if Carey suddenly becomes Frank Gore, I’ll be the first to admit I was wrong. But don’t hold your breath.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            It was his first time playing with Cutler. A little bit of patience isn’t out of order.
            I didn’t see him as a weakness in pass protection last night. He was very good last week, that I can tell you for sure.

            PS: I like how you think Trestman thinks so little about Carey that he put him in pass protection with Cutler. It’s like the Wilson theme “if Trestman thinks he’s alright in pass protection that he trusted him with Cutler’ shouldn’t you. I mean I trust Trestman with the Offense 100 %. And I’m not writing after the fact, I said last week ‘ Carey looks good in pass protection’.

          • You’re misinterpreting. Trestman is not trotting carey out there cuz he trusts him, he’s putting him out there for the exact opposite. Guess what, Carey proved he’s not ready.
            That’s ok, if he weren’t a 4rth round pick. But much like backup qb, u gotta choose wisely.
            I saw Carey’s tape predraft. Didn’t impress me then. He doesn’t impress me now, and no hopeful thinking fallacy will convince me otherwise

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Hah. This isn’t ‘hopeful thinking’. It’s a clear cut ‘read’. My read. And I trust it. We’ll see what’s what in time. For me he’s a very good backup of Forte. Now I’m not 100% sure about him, but you can’t be either.

            What does ‘proved he’s not ready’ mean ? He had 4 carries for 15 yards and 4 rec for 27 yards. That’s awesome against the Seattle D. And he was great in pass protection against the Jaguars and ok against the Seahawks.

          • his strength isn’t running? The dude had 4k rushing yards and 30+ rushing TDs the last 2 years of college. He’s not a workout warrior, but he’s a good runner.

          • What was his yds per avg in ps?

        • #understatementoftheyear

          • For your consideration….

            I’d actually rather see Ford and even Lynch get a shot. carey just doesn’t do it for me.

          • I’d rather have Perry, Draugh, Lynch, or the kid down the street who’s always denting cars on bad routes.

          • bearsfantillend

            Ford was released today along with Collins and A. Wilson

          • For your consideration….

            hmmm…didn’t think Collins was getting cut. Didn’t see Wilson make an impact but still liked Ford on the returns and actually liked him in the run game more than Carey.

          • For your consideration….

            I liked Ford as a returner and actually liked him as a running back a bit. He must have really took a step back.

  • MB30SD

    can we all agree that Hayden should GTFO now?

  • MB30SD

    btw, this place is thick with seattle fans. never seen it like this before… I bet 1/2 are bandwagon. Brutal. Some dude next to me took a pic of the bar TV screen, I was like “are you fucking kidding me dude”.

    Him: “What… I’m from seattle and it’s awesome to see this destruction while im on vacation in san diego.”

    Me: “Fuuuuck yooou”. and walked away shaking my head. tool.

    • DaMurph

      Did ya have the Lucha Libre mask on?

      • MB30SD

        Should have

  • For your consideration….

    I think every time Seattle scored it was 3rd down or 3rd and goal

  • GPLDAN

    • Shady

      Must…Offer…Sacrifice….At… Alter… Of… Ditka….To… Succeed.

      #Bearce

  • Shady

    Green Bay Packers nose tackleB.J. Raji is out for the season after sustaining a torn right biceps in
    Friday’s preseason game against theOakland Raiders, a league source confirmed.

    That’s a shame.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11397572/green-bay-packers-bj-raji-torn-right-biceps

    Sucks for him, especially considering he only signed a 1-year deal looking for a bounce back year and a big payday.

    • Cormonster

      That’s a bummer for Raji. The Packers press has been praising his play throughout training camp after moving back to nose tackle.

    • MB30SD

      FUCK bj raji! Cunt

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Mostly, f-ck Caleb Hanie for making that fat bastard famous.

        • MB30SD

          good point.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      look what’s happening to the Rams.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    They could bring back Collins in the near future. Maybe after the start of the season.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Really wished Ron Rivera would have been fired last year, so we could have scooped him up to be our D coordinator, lousy bastard had to go Riverboat Ron on everyone and save his job for one more season. We needed you Ron!!!!

    All kidding aside, this game doesn’t really do anything for me confidence wise in either direction, if we see Seattle again it won’t be until the postseason, by then we should be a lot better on specials and come into the game with a legit game plan. You saw glimpses of it (that Matt Forte 11 yd. run when they went to a quick no-huddle after a 1st down) just wait until everything is installed and Jordan Mills, Redneck and Fuller are playing. We should destroy Buffalo coming out of the gate, struggle for a few weeks during the road heavy portion of the schedule and then kill it in the 2nd half of the season.10-6, don’t know if that gets us in (maybe if the vadge tears his labia could be good enough to win the division) the postseason, but puts us in the convo.

    Here’s the Breakdown:
    3-3 vs. the NFC North
    3-1 vs. the AFC East
    3-1 vs. the NFC South
    1-1 vs. 2nd Place teams from NFC West, East.

    Bearsssssssssssssssssss!

    • johnnywad

      “Vadge tears his labia”……….. Indeed.

      I think we’ll do better in our own division than 3-3. We’ll sweep the Vikings and maybe even the Lions. I don’t buy all the hype on the Packers. We had them beat last year WITH Rodgers under center. I keep hearing ” Rodgers is primed for maybe his best season yet.” in the media. Why? How could he be any better than he’s been? Their O-line is already dinged up again and they lost James Jones. While he’s no world beater, he was certainly a reliable target. And as for Eddie Lacy……whatever. I call bullshit there too. ESPN and SI love to slob the Packers knob. Go ahead. Now watch the Bears beat them with our maladjusted quarterback, Bipolar receiver, neurotic TE, patchwork defense and the strangest looking coach to ever pace an NFL sideline. Its happening.

      • CanadaBear

        I think Lacy is good and definitely a load but The Beloved kept him in check that last game. Oddly enough I think it was the best game Major Wright ever had with us. If you put Lacy on a team with a mediocre passing game, he would be just another guy. Until we actually start beating them on a consistent basis, they deserve all the best in the North chatter.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          lacy is good, but highly overrated.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Their offensive line is a huge question mark, and I think Allen this year is an improvement over last years Peppers.
          Agree on the last statement though. Put up or shut up time is coming very early this year.

          • Cormonster

            McCarthy thinks this is his best OL as coach of the Packers. The question mark for them is Bulaga at RT. Can he stay healthy? The guards for GB are very good, and their new center has looked pretty good too in preseason.

            Nice to see you back around Brownie.

          • CanadaBear

            If Allen isn’t an improvement over last year’s Pep, we really got fucked.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Don’t forget. The money saved on Peppers also help bring in Houston & Young.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Think he’d come back to Chicago after Lovie ran him out of town?

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Yeah, lovie, angeblow and the lost boys are no longer here. Assuming any beef he had with the Beloved was tied directly to Lovie.

    • DaMurph

      I hope Rex Ryan gets fired and comes to Chicago as DC

  • GPLDAN

    Bradford hurt again. Rams need a QB.

    • Cormonster

      Out for the season with ACL. What a bummer for that kid.

      • SC Dave

        His luck with injuries reminds me of Rexy. Was it the same knee as last year?

    • Shady

      When Jeff Fisher was at the podium last night, a reported asked him about Bradford’s injury and if he knew any details. Fisher said he didn’t yet know the severity of the injury. A reporter informed him Adam Schefer reported the injury was not serious and Bradford was not expected to miss the season. Needless to say Fisher was not happy about the “report” from Schefter. He made several sarcastic remarks about Schefter being better equipped to answer the reporters questions. I’m sure after today’s news that Bradford will miss the upcoming season after tearing his ACL again, Fisher has to be fucking fuming.

      • GPLDAN

        Maybe Adam Schefter can call Kyle Orton on behalf of the Rams and negotiate his deal.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Surprised Orton hasn’t been scooped up by someone before now.

  • Trust

    Mel Tucker needs to go!!!!

  • CanadaBear

    Pisser about Nate. Hope he heals up and catches on with someone.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      I hope it’s with the Bears.

  • GPLDAN

    When Wilson mouthed off to a reporter that his All-Pro status meant he had nothing to prove in preseason, he probably helped sink his own boat.

    • MB30SD

      bummer, I was really hoping he would show things.

      Bet you anything he’s just done. Old, multi-millionaire. Probably going to be a star in AZ like our guys are in chi. Bet he got to the fuck this point and kinda mailed it in and/or he’s hit the wall and is just done. If he can’t make our squad with our safety issues, he probably can’t play anywhere in the NFL.

  • SC Dave

    Bears cuts:

    S: Adrian Wilson
    DT: Nate Collins
    RB: Michael Ford
    CB: Derricus Purdy, Peyton Thompson
    WR: :Kofi Hughes, Greg Herd
    OL: Joe Long, Dylan Gandy

    • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

      nothing extraordinary, but Collins´s cut.. so Washington and Bass have a place fixed but Lane is the dark hourse in “the battle of inactive list”

      • For your consideration….

        i think Lane makes it over Bass. I thought Bass had it but they kept giving lane the reps.

        • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

          Last game will set the dust…

        • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

          Last preseason game will set Bass doom.

  • GPLDAN

    And cutting Ford means the one guy who WASN’T given a shot to return kicks, was probably the only guy who was going to do it well.

    I hope we’ll see Williams return some kicks on Thursday.

    • SC Dave

      Do you know whether they let Ford try kicks in practice? Maybe the guy does not judge the ball well enough… punt trajectories are a bit different than passes.

      • MB30SD

        If you think about it, football is a game of angles a lot. Some the best players just have an inherant way with them.

        • SC Dave

          I think to be really good, you have to, as you say, *inherently* know the right angle. There is no time to think about it and still get where you need to be, especially in the NFL where shit happens so fast.

          • MB30SD

            Mmmmm… yes…. quite.

          • SC Dave

            Presumably, “where you have to be” is some combination of the scheme (gap coverage) and real-time recognition/anticipation of the actual situation of a given play.

            Not sure whether they call that “instinct” or “football intelligence”, but either way it’s not really common. Of course, you know I’ve contended for a long time on this blog that one of the big factors for making an NFL roster is being smart – check that, smart about football.

          • MB30SD

            It’s a combo. When i got to college I found remembering my coverage calls and the shifts along with real time adjustments very difficult at first… but we ran a full nfl coverage system. There were like 3 base ds and then like 25 sub packages that changed every week. That and trying to get decent grades and score chicks… rough.

      • GPLDAN

        He ran back kicks effectively last preseason.

    • I think they realized before the preseason started that he was not even close to being one of the 3 best RBs and therefore was not making the roster. So they didn’t want to waste too many reps on him.

  • MB30SD

    Rabbit, got yer text maing. still thinking about which game. I’ll most likely be in Chi just after the new year, but can go in November too.

    Anya you other guys want to put together a blog game meet up. I know murph, GP, Shady, yonny will be up for a reunion with us.

    Anyone else interested in pulling together a trip for a game? Maybe in the sept/oct/nov timeframe. I also might be up for an early Jan game too. I’m thinking the first fudge game or maybe even the lovie bowl?

    http://www.chicagobears.com/gameday/schedule.html

    Who’s interested and for which games? (maybe this time GP and Shady won’t have vagina colds… but at least shady came out to share his scarf of pestulance…. GGGGPPPP!!!!)

    • DaMurph

      Ill be in Atlanta for the Falcons game, You know Im up for seeing you guys MB!!!!! Hopefully no sore nuts this time around!

      • MB30SD

        Hopefully we can make something work murph. Would be great to see you and the boys again

    • SC Dave

      The GB game in Sep would be cool, but it’s a bit close in time to get the logistics together. Miami, MInnesota, and Tampa all look good unless you guys wanna do cold.

      • MB30SD

        I can make this happen. .. who’s in?

    • johnnywad

      Pats released James Anderson

      • MB30SD

        Jes please! !! Fucking light years ahead of any sam we have now (sadly). He was the playmaker on that d when everyone else was hurt.

        Beggars can’t be choosers

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Patriots have incredible depth at RB, DT, CB and ST aces at LB and S. I would consider a trade… choose the best 4 of their cuts for a 5th rounder. Vital skill for each of them ? ST contributors.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        And Tommy Kelly and Will Smith. Waw !!! Will Smith could be a Bear fit. And Kelly. That being said I don’t see them coming here to play the situational player role. Maybe Smith as a pass rusher specialist.

  • GPLDAN

    Score is reporting that Palmer is gone. Gone before Thursday’s game.

    Cutler will play one series, then some extensive grooming of Clausen with some first team, 2nd team, then the 2nd half will be the David “Can’t” Fales show.

    • Shady

      Knew that was coming.

    • Maybe we can trade fales and Carey for free tickets to the star wars museum

      • Trac

        Np way Fales is better than Palmer. He’s gonna be practice squad meat maybe.

      • Carey is the backup RB and has looked damn good this preseason. He’s the best short-yardage/goal-line back they have, and has great vision, quick feet, and always gets a few yards after contact.

        The run blocking in front of him has largely been shit, but I’ve really liked what I’ve seen from Carey.

        • Glad ur back data. Maybe u can join my ff league and put those stats to work

          • thanks, but already in 2 FF leagues. That’s my limit.

          • Lol

          • between that and writing about Bears, I’m very busy during football season. That doesn’t even include my actual job that I get paid for either.

          • That’s ok data. But wouldn’t u like to beat gp, nb. Shady, mbp, etc?

          • I still have tp play nb in chess. Buty guess, nb and gp are best at chess

          • Cormonster

            If you and Woody like chess, you should download “Chess by Post”. You can play private correspondence games, so you can make a move whenever you feel like it, even if it’s 3-4 days later. Either of you chumps want to play, just start an unranked private game with me. Same name as here.

          • it would be fun to play with you guys, but my wife would kill me.

            And sorry I haven’t been around lately, I was really busy launching my own Bears site.

          • That’s good, data. I woud love u in the league. The ying to johhnys wang,but its all good. The scenario unfolded two yeasrs ago, and my gut breat nb’s logic lol

          • johnnywad

            Are you having a stroke this morning Butch?

          • Escared,mb

    • Trac

      Told ya so!

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Did you miss the Rams game ? Trestman would rather try out heroin before playing Cutler on Thursday.

  • SC Dave

    Bears cuts (updated per Da site):

    QB: Jordan Palmer
    LB: Jordan Senn
    KR: Darius Reynaud
    S: Adrian Wilson
    DT: Nate Collins
    RB: Michael Ford
    CB: Derricus Purdy, Peyton Thompson
    WR: Kofi Hughes, Greg Herd
    OL: Joe Long, Dylan Gandy

    Bad day to be named Jordan.

    • Senn is a surprise. I thought he was a sp team’s ace?
      #Camel

    • Trac

      I knew Palmer wouldn’t make the cut. Some thought we’d carry 3 qb’s but I never thought we would.

  • GPLDAN

    I watched Lovie and his Cybermen (don’t tell me that the Bucs don’t look like Doctor Who villains) play the Bills.

    Bills have a starting front 4 that can apply pressure. But EJ Manuel isn’t looking good in his sophomore going. I don’t see them beating the Bears at home, but the D can apply pressure.

    McCown looked bad for Lovie. Should be an interesting opener.

    • I still think Manuel is the best from that draft at qb, but th s that’s not saying much

    • Trac

      TB had 5 sacks and McCown had a 90+ QB rating. Not too shabby.

      • MB30SD

        the bills.

    • I think Chicago’s D will eat lesser QBs alive. That DL is damn good. Guys like Manuel, Geno, etc. are gonna turn it over against CHI a lot.

      But the LBs are really not good, so good QBs will exploit that.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      I wouldn’t underestimate their Offense. I also believe the Bears will win -they always win at home against this kind of opponent- but it’s a good test for the D. They look weak against bootlegs and the Bills have a potent run game and speedy receivers. They also play a hurry-up O. So they do have strengths where the Bears have weaknesses… play action, QB contain, deep threat WRs. The good news ? They play 3 WR as base O, so we’ll see more Fuller and less LBs. WIN !!!!

  • EnderWiggin

    If DYL is MIA, who is running a yahoo pick ‘um league? Cause that is the shit.

  • Trac

    Holy Schmoly! I’m going to Napa on Tuesday week to visit my sis, I hope its still there by then plus I fly back on Sept. 11th. Hmmm.

  • If your wife understood ur passion, truly. She would be your mistress on dark beds.

  • Just want make this perfectly clear: the most” intellectual’ and”buffest’ Are staying clear of my ff league. I van refer both of u to a Turkish bathhouse in ill Armenia, nttawwt

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Wait… weren’t the Bears keeping 3 QBs ? Of course they weren’t. Why would they ? And no… this doesn’t mean Fales will make the roster. He’ll be sent on the practice squad.

    The Bears cut 2 of their best 3 ST players in 1 week. They might have the worst ST unit in the NFL. I see disaster all over this shit. It’s 2013 all over again with the ST instead of the D.
    I really, really, really hope Emery doesn’t underestimate the problem and think he can get away with it by simply apologizing at the end of the year. That doesn’t cut it anymore.

    • why waste a roster spot on Palmer? If Cutler gets hurt, you call Palmer and he’s there 3 hours later. Just like last year. He is effectively your 3rd QB without needing a roster spot for him.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Well…there where a lot of people who envisioned a 3 QB Chicago Bears this year. I’ve always said 2… the St are so bad that they’ll have to risk at different positions going with 2 QB, 9 OL and maybe 9 DL.

        • I’m not sold on the ST being bad yet. They need to figure out their units and give them a little time to work together before they can gel. If they’re still bad by week 5 or so, I’ll be worried. I don’t expect that to be the case.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    The ESPN Chicago site is pure crap. You can’t find anything of the Bears portion. There’s nothing there. Zero. The Blackhawks one would be even worse… they didn’t post an article in 5 days. 5 frikin days.
    The ESPN Boston site is pure gold. They cover the Patriots at an incredibly high level. Masterful job out there. It’s all I need to be super informed about the Patriots.
    I’m more informed about them than the Bears and I try to read every decent site there is about da Bears. No wonder the Patriots are the top class and the Bears are just average.

    • there’s really nothing to report on the Blackhawks right now. Nothing going on. Their Bears coverage is really not that good though. Windy City Gridiron is probably the best for news. Chicago Tribune’s pretty good too, but a lot of that’s behind a pay wall (though you can always get around that by googling the article title and going directly to the article from Google).

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Really ? Damn I’ve never tried. I loved reading Steve Rosenbloom’s opinions, before they blocked them. WCG is a nice, useful site.

        • Rosenbloom pisses me off. One of those negative inciters who says shit just to get page clicks.
          I really thinkg Biggs does a decent job with news though. And Matt Bowen is amazing (he writes for them and B/R).
          Also DJ Durkin, who I think writes for CBS (I always find his stuff through his Twitter feed). Adam Jahns too.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Yes I read Bowen and Durkin for their X and Os.
            I like Rosenbloom because it’s original and funny. If there is someone that writes a niche type of articles it better be funny… and he is.

            Take this gem : “A part of me (the bigger part, I promise), wants to see Dave Toub get his shot as a head coach in the NFL someday. The other part of me (the scared little girl part), wants him to stay in Chicago forever”.

            It’s a classic for me.

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