• Shady

    Darryl Shapton didn’t actually nickname HIMSELF the Reverend did he?

    • AlbertInTucson

      I thought that originated here.

      • Trac

        I think his teammates did. I read a diddy about that somewhere last week.

        • Yeah, they did.
          Ironically enough, Fuller doesn’t have a nickname. Then again, he’s still a rook, and rooks only earn nicknames if they’re bad, or fat.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            It’s only a matter of time before someone here coins one. It sure is hard when the player doesn’t suck.

          • CanadaBear

            GP’s given out numerous nicknames that have stuck.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Refreshngly less profane rant, as rants go. But your forgot to sign off with “Amen!”

    • Trac

      I vote he change his handle to the irreverent one. If the shoe fits……
      Plus it will eliminate any confusion.

  • Trac

    I didn’t know Percy Harvin was a locker room cancer. Going to the Jets hardly seems to be a great move for a struggling team like them.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/18/trading-problem-player-percy-may-create-a-problem-with-marshawn/

    • GPLDAN

      Petey Pie is a politic master.

      Inherent in the effort he solicits is the underpinning idea that he be the benevolent leader. Players love Carroll because he’s a player’s coach.

      So when you get a dissenter, somebody who feeds the line that hey – maybe Carroll is screwing us – that just can’t stand. Person has to go.

      It’s less apparent in a Coughlin disciplinarian house, where the boss doesn’t care if you hate him – hell, he WANTS you to hate him. Carroll is carefully cultivating his rep as the most popular coach with his players who ever was, and so he needs to keep people who tow that line.

      • Supposedly Harvin was not happy with Teacher’s pet Wilson, and gathered up a group who were equally irked by the choir boy.
        I imagine it’s like having a talented Tebow on the team – might rub some ppl (perhaps malcontents anyways) the wrong way.
        But supposedly Lynch was REALLY pissed at the move, and on Harvin’s side.
        The Hawks didn’t want a “Team Harvin” and “Team Wilson” scenario, but now they might have a “Team Lynch” and “Team Wilson” schism.
        My guess?
        They Hawks will use this to galvanize them and crush whoever they’re playing this week, and the media will revert to blowing the Hawks for how they deal with adversity.
        Though I would like to see the alternative – that they lose and suddenly, things get interesting in SEA.

        • GPLDAN

          They just restructured Lynch’s contract to keep him happy. He seems like a guy who gets unhappy easily.

        • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

          I find Wilson’s choir boy antics a little tiresome as well. I always joke with my buddy the Seahawk fan that what’s the over under on how many years it’ll take before he’s caught with hookers and coke in some hotel room? He’ll either be one of the greats of all time when he’s done, or he’ll go down like Jimmy Swaggart.

          • CanadaBear

            I hope it’s sooner rather than later. He’s about as close to Rodgers as it gets. He’s probably a little more elusive at this point in their careers. At least in a year or two he will cost them about $22-25 mil/yr. That means a lot of roster restructuring.

      • TheBigCheesy

        He is also a 9-11 Truther

        • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

          We need your input on a debate we were having. Bill and I agreed that your unbiased opinion would be the tie breaker.

          Who was the better MIKE; Singletary or Urlacher?

          • Trac

            Who was better? Define better. Too subjective Doc. One guy played on the greatest defense in the NFL, the other had to suffer under the cover who. One guy was unleashed with wreckless abandon, the other was forced into schemes that bent and didn’t break. Singletary couldn’t have held Urlackers jock strap in the cover two. My .2 cents.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            All things bring equal. Both players in their prime both players on the team, who plays MIKE? Let’s go ahead and assume they’re not playing the cover two.

          • Trac

            Urlacher hands down. Not dissin Samuri but without Urlacher on da bears and what were we left with. He made watching the Bears enjoyable during the lean years. If Lach had stepped away gracefully, then we’re prolly not having this conversation. Wilbur Marshall and Otis Wilson made Samuri’s job so much easier.

          • SC Dave

            To say nothing of having two HoF linemen in front of him (Dent and Hampton) for virtually his entire career, and another guy that played in a couple Pro Bowls and was a rock for the duration (McMichael).

            On the other hand, Briggs is better than Wilson and Marshall.

          • Trac

            Briggs hits hard but I don’t remember him tossing around RB’s like Marshall an Wilson did.

          • CanadaBear

            Different game then. Briggs brings the wood.

            As part of the Lach vs Samurai debate, Samurai brought the pain way more than Lach. To me that was the only thing Samurai had on Lach.

          • and blitzing. Lach blitz, but never got home.

          • CanadaBear

            He did early in his career until Lovie arrived. After that he rarely got home.

          • Trac

            Ode to Brian Urlacher. He got a bad rap at the end of his career Canada and I have a hard time believing Samurai made as many impact plays for us that Lach did.

          • CanadaBear

            One thing that works against Lach is the media is way more intrusive now. Back when Samurai played the sports media was more about the sport than athletes personal lives. By the time Lach came along the media was already transforming into the TMZ media we see today. The more we found out about Lach the more we realized that he wasn’t exactly Einstein and he liked screwing around with some questionable women (Paris Hilton, his baby mama).

          • Trac

            I don’t know it this is just not a very good film on Singletary or not but you just don’t see Samurai being as athletic or as dominant as Lach was when it came to making big plays. If I was a GM in the draft room and had my choice of either player, I’d draft Urlacher 10 out of 10 times.

          • johnnywad

            There was a stat that kept getting posted when he was injured a couple of times during his prime. Basically, the Bears couldn’t win without him healthy in his prime. He was to that team, what Rodgers is to this year’s Packers.

          • Scott W.

            I think in terms of only football IQ, Urlacher wins it running away.

            He was very smart, and a lot faster than Singletary physically. Urlacher knew how to put his guys in the right place, and adjusted yo audibles, I always thought, much better than Singletary.

            As was pointed out, Singletary had the luxury of the best d-line in history in front of him. He was good, but the guys surrounding him made him look awesome.

          • TheBigCheesy

            It would be a tie. Except that Singletary’s first name is also “Mike”. So… Singletary wins.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            Alright. Urlacher it is. thanks.

          • TheBigCheesy

            The one thing that Urlacher has in his “lacher” is his ability to deceive the quarterback. He is perhaps the only player I’ve ever seen to pick off Aaron Rodgers and make me go “WTF was #12 thinking?”. The interception that Rodgers threw to Urlacher in the red zone during the 2010 NFCCG was the worst (is. most unforgivable and befuddling) pass I have ever seen him throw. He literally just threw the ball right to him. Rodgers simply never gets duped like that. Urlacher also picked Favre off in the EXACT same fashion during that windstorm game in 2007, the only difference being Urlacher made it all the way to the endzone. However, Urlacher is not the only defender to made Favre look like a fucking idiot.

            Urlacher picked Rodgers off again in September 2011 in a similar fashion (except it was at midfield and Urlacher made a more athletic play). He also picked Favre off in the 2007 game at Lambeau in a critical situation where he also jsut came out of nowhere and Favre threw it right to him.

            So, I don’t really know how he did it, but it fucking pissed me off

    • Scott W.

      How often do we learn about any player’s locker room bad attitude?

    • Scott W.

      On the other hand, they might be a good “tough love” last chance club for him.

  • “Be a mensch!”
    Truer words have never been spoken.

  • Percy Harvin…what an enigmatic talent. All I keep reading is “he’s a different type of guy” but no writer/coach/player delves farther. What does that mean, exactly? Is he just confrontational, like Steve Smith (who annually punches teammates in the face), or is he a slacker?
    Guy sorta reminds me of Ricky Williams. Always talk about “potential” etc, but always referred to as a “different cat”, though it was probably for entirely different reasons (weed, depression, lack of passion for football)

    • A source tells the Seattle Times that Percy Harvin got
      into an altercation with Golden Tate during Super Bowl week last season,
      resulting in a black eye for Tate.

      This confirms an initial report from The Sideline View’s
      Lance Zierlein. A source also tells the Seattle Times that Harvin had an
      altercation with Doug Baldwin in August that resulted in Baldwin
      getting a cut on his chin. A final straw was reportedly Harvin balking
      about going back into last week’s game against Dallas, possibly angry
      over not being used more early on. Zierlein was told “Harvin’s anger
      issues are just too much to deal with and he could single handedly bring
      down team chemistry.” – Rotoworld

      • GPLDAN

        In that case the Jets are perfect.

        • Harvin’s one of those players that needs to be fed, or he zones out.
          Bmarsh is sorta the same way, but less volatile (which is kinda scary)
          I expect it to end very badly for Harvin in NY. If he couldn’t handle the Minny press…
          Also, kinda ironic that he wants the ball all the time, and the two teams he’s landed on were run-oriented with AP and Lynch dominating touches, and now, he’s going to NY where Rex likes to…run the ball!

          • CanadaBear

            If you can’t handle the Minny press the only place for him is GB. Those hayseeds would blow him or offer up their sisters on a weekly basis. The press there is so soft on Fudgies, even the the guys that went to jail don’t take much of a beating in the GB media.

          • Scott W.

            Interesting post Canada. Would enjoy you expounding on that a little more if you have the time.

          • CanadaBear

            Just off the top of my head Chumra was convicted of fooling around with a teenager and one of the WR’s was convicted of a sex assault against his aunt. I’d have to look up the second one to refresh my memory. The GB press, such as it is, has never really vilified these guys. There was the guy who took a crap in an ex’s laundry basket in her closet!! The nut broke in to do that! Also, some sex assaults and family disputes, etc. Good on the GB press for not going Enquirer on these guys but the Chicago press would have made these guys lives miserable.

          • Scott W.

            Thank you sir. Very thought provoking. I’m reading Easterbrook’s book right now, so your post was well timed.

            I don’t want them going “Enquirer” on them either. Would love to see more solid investigative pieces though, especially on owners and the NFL.

          • Cormonster

            How’s the book so far? I haven’t read it, just posted the link to an interview.

          • Scott W.

            It’s really good. He spends the 1st 2 chapters on Virginia Tech, but had some damning stats laced in, so after chapter 2, it really picks up steam. An eye opener.
            It was your link that prompted me to get the book. Thanks for that man.

          • johnnywad

            “Sex assault against his aunt….”. Seriously. WTF?

          • Cormonster

            The player was Mossy Cade. It was actually his wife’s aunt.

          • johnnywad

            Sexual assault of any kind is unforgivable. But that, I just can’t get my head around.

          • CanadaBear

            Thanks Cor. I was a little hazy on the details.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            Maybe he could benefit from Marshall’s counsel.

      • Scott W.

        Good post.

  • GPLDAN

    Imagine if we picked up Harvin for a 3rd rounder. Talk about an offense.

    • Not to mention that we would actually have a returner who won’t go down at the 14, or two yds per PR.
      But we don’t have the cap for that.

    • Trac

      I thought about that but we don’t even seem to always be able to fully utilize who we got. I’d put him on KR/PR fo sho though.

    • Scott W.

      No way. He’d be baggage.

  • Natty Ice! I drink that crap too when I’m broke lol

    • GPLDAN

      My favorite thing is that it says “a natural choice” and then has a blond on it with the fakest titties possible.

  • Trac
  • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

    Happy birthday to Da Coach!

  • Scott W.

    Unrelated to the topic, does anyone think it would be a good move for the NFL to require ALL draftees to have their degree, or be close enough to it they could get it by mid season of their rookie year?

    • Cormonster

      That will never happen. Way too many good players enter the draft after their sophomore and junior seasons.

      • Scott W.

        I was just wondering if the idea of it had any appeal. Reason is, besides the fact I’m reading Easterbrook’s book, I have some vague memory from decades back that there was some pressure by Rozelle to do that.

        Ring any bells at all corm?

        • Cormonster

          I don’t remember that. I do think it’s a shame only about 55% of Division 1 football players ever get their degrees.

          • Scott W.

            Get the book. Easterbrook tells us all why, and it ain’t pretty.

            Spoiler that will surprise no one: The NCAA is the Fannie and Freddie of sports.

          • Cormonster

            One of my best friends since childhood has been railing against the NCAA and D1 sports programs for years. He’s an Athletic Director who transitioned his college from a D3 to D2 program. They graduate 100% of athletes almost every year. His dream job used to be running a big D1 sports program. About 7 or 8 years ago he told me he would never touch a D1 program because almost all of them are totally corrupt. Years before the child rape scandal, he used to rip Penn State all the time, saying the football program defined everything that was wrong with college athletics.

            I will definitely have to read it. Thanks for taking the initiative.

          • Scott W.

            With literally billions involved, the chances of anything ever changing are nill. Some D1 schools have high standards for their athletes and hold fast to them, even at the risk of losing scholarship stars altogether.
            Most though (see Winston, Jamies and Florida et al) care nothing about the degrees or academics beyond the bare minimum. It’s a damned shame.
            If they had any guts, the NAACP would launch an all out PR assault on the NCAA and the NFL for the shameless hypocritical policies on athletics vs. academia. But again, with billions involved…….forget it.

          • SC Dave

            So THAT is why Illini football normally sucks? Admission standards?

          • Scott W.

            No. They suck because they don’t have rich enough boosters.

    • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

      No. I don’t even think they should have to go to school at all. There needs to be a minor league so players aren’t forced to go to school. The NCAA is a rackett.

      • Scott W.

        I don’t think it’s an absolute requirement that players attend college, just draftees. Some teams still hold walk-on practices. So, if you were thinking of playing for the Bears Doc, I think you actually have a shot…

        • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

          Ya mean it?

      • Trac

        The NFL needs to start up football farm clubs all across the country and lease the teams to investers. Within 2 years you’d have a finely oiled machine and evry college football program will be bankrupt. Yeah baby! Yeah!

      • SC Dave

        This! So this. It’s worse than a racket, actually. It’s more akin to slavery. The overseers and plantation owners derive all the benefits.

        • MB30SD

          • My peaches, I was just gonna post that there, sir.

          • MB30SD

            My favorite line in one of my favorite SP scenes.

            “Well myyyy peaches, what a wonderful office you have yourself heah, seah!”

          • You going to get a chance to watch the game manana, or are you taking care of the kids?

          • MB30SD

            kids. next weekend I get to see us fucking destroy the pats. Fuck the pats.

          • Right. in. their. butt-plugs.
            I actually think we have a chance vs the Pats. It’ll be close, but all our games are gonna be nail biters.
            Gotta contain the run tmrw. I think they’re gonna try to stick Miller down our throats. We bottle him up, Tannenhill will self-destruct.

          • MB30SD

            yep

        • Trac

          Actually it’s voluntary servitude. Slavery and plantations never looked so good.

    • AlbertInTucson

      The NFL vehemently opposed, and fought, the signing of underclassman for years.

      • Scott W.

        Maybe that’s what I was thinking of. Can’t remember details.

    • SC Dave

      Just another excuse to award worthless degrees, as if America’s education-indoctrination complex needed one.

  • EnderWiggin

    I’ll be keeping an eye on Louis Delmas tomorrow. A bunch of us were hoping he would be a Bear last off season.
    1. Can he keep Marshall/Jeffery in front of him?
    2. Does he still have an innate Forte-magnet?

  • MB30SD
    • Trac

      The Love of money is A root of all kinds of evil. Shortest sermon evra!

    • CanadaBear

      It seems Irsay is a very generous and very troubled man. His dad was an alcoholic and a monster. Not a shock Irsay is a mess. Hope he kicks it before it kills him.

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD
    • Trac

      You give a new meaning to the term “Surfing” MB. Hahahaha

  • MB30SD

    this is HIGH SCHOOL football.

    Damn:

    • Scott W.

      Well, certainly a well-funded school. Their art dept is 1st rate.

    • Trac

      Are you not entertained! Hahaha

  • AlbertInTucson

    This IS a MUST WIN.

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