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Road Map Lost: Trestman Tenure Should End

| November 28th, 2014

Note: This column is being written at the tail end of a Thanksgiving evening that featured plenty of beer and too plenty pumpkin pie.

Someone wrote this, when discussing the road map for Marc Trestman to keep his position as head coach of the Chicago Bears:

Step #2. Trestman’s Bears deliver a spirited effort on Thanksgiving. This will be the next time the Bears receive any national attention. It would be imperative from a public relations perspective for the Bears to (a) not embarrass themselves and (b) show the fight and passion missing from their efforts against New England and Green Bay. In many ways beating the Lions on Thanksgiving and moving to .500 would not only be a saving face performance but it might also create optimism around the coach’s potential to lead this organization into the future.

None of that happened. Road map lost. Marc Trestman’s career, as head coach of the Chicago Bears, should be over.

That’s right. I’ve never called for the firing of the head coach in my time running this site. I’ve never said a man should be removed from his job, his family displaced, his life altered in a startlingly negative way. But that is now over. The Bears have the wrong man leading their organization and they must replace him before a single decision is made in the 2015 off-season.

Why?

The offense doesn’t work. The Bears delivered their most gutless offensive performance of my lifetime Thursday in Detroit. It is one thing to not be able to execute against a good defense. It is another thing to not attempt executing against that defense. Trestman chose the latter.

The defense? No one in the world thinks Trestman has any knowledge of how it operates or why it fails. Do you think Tom Coughlin has so little knowledge about half his team? Belichick? Harbaugh? Head coaches run the team in its entirety. Does Trestman know Ego Ferguson’s number?

The Bears have played the Packers twice, Dolphins, Pats and Lions. Those are the only good teams they’ve played all season. They have been noncompetitive in every game.

Is more required?

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  • BlameAngelo

    Why call for the firing after the Lions’ game? Cutler did what he could against one of the best defenses in the NFL in their house. Couldn’t run against that front with the line we have. Garza was done years ago, Mills is tragic, and really only Long is worth anything. Can’t win games with the secondary we have. We need 3 new linebackers, a center, a guard, a right tackle ….. blame Jerry Angelo, not Trestman.

    • johnnywad

      I’d say they both have a hand in it.

    • Bobby Douglass

      They didn’t even *try* to run the ball. Disgraceful.

    • DaBearsBlog

      How do you run a play action game – which the Bears ran yesterday – with no rushes? It’s legitimately insane.

      • SC Dave

        What? Certifiably insane is calling it a “play action game plan” when there are no runs.

        If you are proposing that the screens were supposed to take the place of runs in a play-action model, then that plan really WAS insane. Play action is based on deception, and tricking a defense into thinking that you’re throwing a screen but really going deep could only work with a QB that knows what a pump fake is.

  • Here’s my thing: Chicago’s offensive game plan, for the first time all year, was actually the correct one based on the opponent. That’s what you have to do to beat Detroit’s D. It’s exactly what the Patriots did last week. (I’m talking about Chicago’s offense for probably the first half, maybe 3 quarters. 4th quarter chucking it deep in desperation because they were getting killed was not part of the game plan. Also should have called for running it more once you’ve got the defense worried about all those short passes, but they were down too big to do that).

    The problem is that game plan requires the offense to play mistake-free football, as any one penalty, drop, or sack pretty much ruins the drive. And Chicago’s offense is pretty much incapable of stringing together 10-15 plays to mount a long scoring drive without shooting themselves in the foot.

    This has been their problem all year. They’re trying to play this safe, methodical driving offense, but their personnel are built to be a big play unit that takes chances. That’s partly on Cutler, but also the OL for all their penalties (and poor blocking) and the WRs for their drops.

    • I also thought they had a good game plan against Minnesota (lots of short passes) and Green Bay in week 4 (run the damn ball).

    • here’s the ultimate irony: their offense is perfectly suited for the scheme that Arizona utilizes. It’s a deep-strike offense that makes big plays but some big mistakes too. Remarkably similar personnel to Chicago (big-armed QB, big physical WRs, do-everything RB), only less talented (, Cutler>Stanton/Palmer, Marshall>Fitzgerald since 2012, Jeffery>Floyd, Forte>Ellington, Bennett>whoever their shmuck TE is).

      Of course, that’s the offense that is designed and run by Bruce Arians, the guy who was the popular choice for Chicago that they eschewed for Trestman. It never made sense to me why you would say no to the reigning NFL coach of the year when given the chance to hire him (which just never happens).

      Of course, they’re scoring at pretty much exactly the same rate Chicago is, so it’s not like that holds much water. Like Detroit, Arizona is winning with defense.

      • GPLDAN

        It never made sense to me why you would say no to the reigning NFL coach of the year when given the chance to hire him (which just never happens).

        Because he knew Phil Emery was a moron who should be the water boy, not the GM.

        • DaBearsBlog

          Arians didn’t turn the Bears down. Emery turned Arians down.

          • GPLDAN

            I think it was mutual, at best – given the tone of Arians comments.

          • TheBigCheesy

            Wouldn’t it be natural for Arians to make sound like it was mutual (sour grapes)?

          • GPLDAN

            In that case, why say anything? Most coaches turned down do not give interviews saying an organization was “weird”.

          • Gary

            YES. And of course Emery it’s the total Court Jester… With all his bells on.

    • DaBearsBlog

      That is NOT what the Pats did to beat Detroit. They threw the ball vertically, short but vertically. They didn’t throw 200 WR screens. They assumed they could block Detroit for at least one second. Apparently the Bears did not.

      • yeah, the short routes they ran were not the ones I would have called. Once again, everything was behind the line of scrimmage or forcing the WRs to have their backs to the defense when they caught the ball. But in general the approach was solid, just needed to mix in more slants and crossing routes.

        • SC Dave

          Yes, and fewer drops and penalties would not hurt either.

          • goes back to being a style Chicago’s offense can’t do. They can’t play mistake-free football for 15 plays at a time, so why bother asking them to try?

  • FQD1911

    The only time a head coach should be fired is when they lose the locker room. If that has not happened yet, it will happen in the next 4 games. How did we get to this point?

    • DaBearsBlog

      This roster should be not be noncompetitive against the Lions. It simply should not be.

      • Viva

        If PE goes limp, and by limp I mean this decision is not made bye noon tomorrow he needs to go too.

      • and that’s just it. They were competitive with 2 straight decent teams the first 2 weeks. They’ve played 5 decent teams since then (GB, GB, NE, MIA, DET) and been blown out 5 times.

      • SC Dave

        This roster is clearly nowhere near as good as far too many of you seem to think. Only one offense player worthy of Pro-Bowl consideration this season, and we all know who that is. Some might argue for Long too, but I would not.

  • Shonbear

    I haven’t been this depressed about the bears in a long time. It has sapped my hope making me feel like the problems are so huge that it will take an overhaul of many things and that it will take 2-4 years. There is nothing happening for this team tha excites or motivates me. Every game they have a drive or two that seem good or a defensive series or two that seem good, but it never happens for much more than 1 quarter or a quarter and a half at most

    • GPLDAN

      I’m a Wolverines fan, I graduated there and Harbaugh was the QB and Bo was the coach. The team always had guts and even when Bo stepped down, Carr made a run at the national title with Griese (they had to split the title).

      Imagine MY chagrin? Being a Wolverines and a Bears fan these days is like some ring of hell. Who has done a worse job, Trestman or Hoke? It’s actually a toss-up and that’s really saying something. It’s like a battle of incompetence and bad judgment.

      • Viva

        WOLVERINES!!!!

        • GPLDAN

          There ya go. +84 blog points for a Red Dawn shout out.

          Swayze!!!!!!

          • Viva

            RAMBLERS doesn’t have the same effect.

    • SC Dave

      What it seems to me is that the offense and defense are not teammates. There never seems to be any mutual support – they never feed off each other – they rarely “come through” for each other.

      And the few times they do (for example, getting the TD after Allen’s strip sack) don’t lead to anything. Yeah, Detroit marched down the field and scored. So the offense needed to do their bit and get some points back. They failed.

      The defense was reeling in the 2nd quarter, and really needed the offense to step up at the end of the first half and get a couple first downs to at least run the clock out. They failed.

      In the 3rd quarter, the defense gets Detroit 3 and out. The offense puts up points (a TD would have been better, but still). So get the ball back and build a little momentum, right? Wrong – defense fails and the Lions go 95 yards for a TD.

      So the offense then folds their tent. Punt, punt, int, punt, int.

  • johnnywad

    Does Theo Epstein fix football teams? Somebody call him please. I don’t even know what to set my sights on for future improvement/expectations.

    While watching the Niners/Seahawks game last night, I just kept thinking “I’m not sure how many Bears would start for either of these teams.”. They just look different on the screen. Faster, smarter, meaner, more physical. Both coaches look extremely engaged and calculating. By comparison, right now, the Bears just look like a roster and staff acting like a football team. It just looks too different to assume there is an easy path to improvement.

    Meaningless football in December is for the Raiders and Jaguars, not the Bears. Somebody needs to fix this.

  • BearDown100393

    I posted it before and I will post it again. Go ahead and fire Marc Trestman. Now who is going to want the head coach position with Jay Cutler as the starting quarterback? Name the candidate please.

    • CanadaBear

      Almost any co-ordinator that has never been a HC in the NFL.

      • SC Dave

        How well did that work for Trestman?

  • Viva

    Dave Toub for HC.

    • BearDown100393

      An intriguing qualified suggestion. However, Toub was interviewed and passed over by Phil Emery. Instead the job went to Trestman. Consequently, Toub turned down an offer to remain special teams coordinator with the Bears and joined Andy Reid’s staff. Is he now likely to leave Kansas City to rejoin Chicago and work under Emery?

      • Viva

        No brainer. Toub would take the reins in a heartbeat.

      • GPLDAN

        Of course not.

        Emery is a pariah in the NFL. The ass clown in the Bears front office. Arians wouldn’t touch him – nobody wants to.

        Hence, he cannot be allowed to make the next hire.

        Since Teddy hired this assclown to be GM, Teddy cannot make the next hire either.

        Therefore, Phil and Teddy must go.

        • Scott W.

          I’ve been calling for Emery and Trestman to be fired for weeks now. Your addition of Teddy is awesomely well timed.

  • Viva

    I don’t do lifeless.
    I don’t do listless.
    I don’t do flaccid.

    Hence, I don’t do Trestman.

    • GPLDAN

      The Cryptkeeper could use some more vampire blood on the sidelines.

  • Viva

    It’s black Friday. Sack Trestman now. Give KC a 5th rounder for Toub and let’s turn the franchise around today. I don’t give a rats ass what protocol is. FUCK PROTOCAL. We suck. They don’t.

    • GPLDAN

      FUCK TRESTMAN! Merry Christmas, ASSHOLE, you are GONE.

      Oh, and take this giant check for several million dollars as a consolation prize.

      • Viva

        I think higher of PE than you do. But if he is as lacking in cojones as Tresticles, this decision will linger and I’ll be on the FUCK PE bandwagon.

  • AlbertInTucson

    The Emperor has no clothes.

  • GPLDAN

    Thayer made a good point this morning on the ray-dee-o.

    Trestman came into the locker room with a O plan that was all pass. Quick screens substituted as runs. He did not want to attack the heart of that Lions D. Because he was afraid to. He didn’t believe in that line. And a stupidly lopsided plan like that demoralizes the whole team, starting with the O line. They look at that run sheet and they say “he doesn’t think we can run block”.

    Thayer then alluded to hearing about the demoralization of how Trestman conducts himself from the inside. He may have a source in the locker room. More talk about how Marshall and Cutler’s love affair is over and that Cutler wanted to call Marshall out.

    But Thayer’s main point is that Trestman seems to have quit on his team, and they have responded in kind.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      This is overkill. The Bears offense didn’t get points because of game planing. Lets be real and stop the non sense.
      I don’t know who this Thayer is, but he doesn’t understand shit about shit.

      PS: The Patriots -while playing a huge number of 2TE sets- didn’t run the ball, at home, against Detroit’s nickel D. They didn’t because they couldn’t. And they can run block, believe me.
      So Brady threw for 55 times even if the Pats D was playing at elite level (again) and was shutting down the Lions O. Threw 55 times in a blowout.

      Blaming the HC of a much worst run team, while playing on the road for doing the same thing is stupid and pathetic. You could argue that the HC in question is a moron for running the ball into oblivion, just as well.

      It’s overkill. Blaming for the sake of blaming. Finding the scape goat and betting on the ‘winning’ team.

      • GPLDAN

        I don’t know who this Thayer is, but he doesn’t understand shit about shit.

        I think that says all we need to know about you Barb in a nice, concise bit of ignorance.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          That’s false. I know who he was as a player and I know he works for the Bears. I’ve seen him.

          But if he said that
          ‘Trestman came into the locker room with a O plan that was all pass. Quick screens substituted as runs. He did not want to attack the heart of that Lions D. Because he was afraid to. He didn’t believe in that line. And a stupidly lopsided plan like that demoralizes the whole team, starting with the O line. They look at that run sheet and they say “he doesn’t think we can run block”.”

          that’s the stupidest shit I’ve heard all year.

          TRESTMAN DID WHAT BILL BELICHICK DID 4 DAYS PRIOR !!! So basically this Thayer character is saying
          “Belichick did not want to attack the heart of that Lions D because he was afraid to. Belichick doesn’t believe in his Oline. And Belichick’s lopsided plan demoralized the whole team, starting with the O line.”

          That’s some ignorant shit right there. Shut the fuck up Thayer… you don’t know shit.
          Newsflash: Pats game plan same as Bears game plan. Brady threw 55 times, didn’t get sacked once. Not fucking once. They put on a blowout, but they were all demoralized, starting with the O line.

          • SC Dave

            Not sure i’d call it ignorant, Barb, but Thayer’s comments are certainly speculative.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            He’s putting food on the table. hah.

          • Bender McLugh

            agreed Barb on the game plan and Thayer being wrong about “demoralizing” the OL.

            Thayer is probably correct though about the locker room being lost to Trestman, but it may very well be one or two squeeky fucks and not a systemic problem (like the DEFENSE).

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Sure. I think they should receive blame. It was to be about real stuff though.
            That being said, this is a Bears employee. He can’t talk bad about nobody. What a fuck ?

            So we have here a Bears employee who’s attacking the HC and exaggerating blame. That’s bad and it goes to what kind of a losing franchise the Bears are… in my opinion.

          • SC Dave

            Maybe the worst of it, Barb, is that Phillips doesn’t fire Thayer.

            Many companies would outright fire an line-level employee that calls out the boss in public.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Not if the writing is on the walls at head quarters.

      • CanadaBear

        Here ya go Barb. I’m sure you know more than him.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Thayer

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Does it say ‘dick sucker’ on his wiki page ?

          Because putting the blame on an individual when the fuck up is general seems like the job of propaganda personnel.

          It is a proof they are going to can Trestman. Now the PR can start their job. And they’re going to blame Trestman even when he’s right.

    • SC Dave

      I call bullshit. There was nothing wrong with the game plan that two drive-killing penalties and several drops (Marshall is right now, AT BEST, a mediocre NFL WR) in the first half wouldn’t have made look a lot better.

      There is no way for any of us to know how many times Matt and Kadeem would have been handed the ball had not the players performed so badly.

      And you know what? Dallas can run block. Seattle can run block. The Bears cannot run block.

      I won’t comment about the locker room, since I’m not in there. But it would seem something is definitely wrong there given how poorly the Bears have started their games most of the season.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Easy call really. Calling bullshit on such nonsense.

        The story here is that a Bears employee attacks the HC without it being asked for. It is a sign for future decisions.

        If tomorrow he bashes Emery for signing Ryan Mundy we’ll know about Emery’s future as well.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Here’s what yu have to do to beat the Lions.
      http://www.patriots.com/cda-web/audio-video-module.htm?vv=pop-out&id=fd752152-e519-4dd9-81af-fc43c854a59a&previewMode=true

      It has 0 to do with basic game planing like run-pass ratio and demoralizing Kyle Long (he seemed pretty good to me last night) & Co.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    I hate this kind of articles. Trestman isn’t the problem. The Bears franchise culture is.
    It was a known fact Trestman has no idea about Defense. So his hiring is a losing one by design.
    Things have to change at the upper levels of the franchise. If not, you’ll have a new Trestman…soon.

    PS: the Bears had Lovie and then Lovie 2.0. Emery didn’t hire Lovie, he did hire Lovie 2.0. Did he do it alone ? Were there parameters he had to check ? Did/does Emery have full control of this type of hiring or does he have to chose his coach from a certain type of coaches pool.

    • GPLDAN

      Emery wanted a guy who wouldn’t call him out, like Ditka did when Vanisi got canned. A weak GM fears a strong coaching leader. He wanted a mealymouthed stooge he could control. He got Marc Trestman.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        That a basic level conclusion. But is it a real one ?

        My question is ? Doesn’t it seem like a big ass coincidence that the previous Head Coach -not hired by Trestman and beloved by the ownership- was just the same… if not worst ?

        People say Emery chose Trestman over Arians. That’s false. Arians was never in the picture really. He had wishes the Bears wouldn’t accept. It was a no deal from the start. Emery couldn’t chose Arians even if he wanted to, because he was forced into that position.

        • GPLDAN

          THat’s what *I* said, to Jeff when he said Emery turned down Arians. Arians took the interview as a courtesy, as a professional act from a guy who wants to be taken seriously in the NFL. But there was no possible way that Arians would have accepted any of Phil’s terms and he knew that going in.

          Emery wanted to keep Old Sauce. He SERIOUSLY thought he could keep Old Sauce around after shit canning Lovie post 10-6. There was no way Old Sauce was hanging around. Guys like him believe in the brotherhood to the core. Dude is a hardcore ‘Nam vet. He was never staying, bur there was Emery on his fucking joke of a world tour interviewing 16 to 20 candidates when nobody in this league interviews more than 4-6, and telling all these people they had to keep the DC and a bunch of assistants as well.

          A joke. A raw joke.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Good. So you’re on the money. Now go forward in your rationale. You have to.

            Why did he want to keep Old Sauce ? Why ?

            Because he knew it was the only chance he had in order to keep a decent level on Defense. And he couldn’t do nothing about Defensive personnel. He was all Offense. Total rebuild.

            Why was he put in that position ? Because he was forced to keep Lovie and by doing so he couldn’t do shit. Only move he made was drafting an OLB who could become a building block for the future D. So he lost the last year of good/great Defense while delaying the Offensive rebuild.

  • Viva

    Tomorrow is shaped today. Dave Toub for HC.

  • Scott W.

    Good piece Jeff. Well timed, and well said.

  • GPLDAN

    Here’s what usually happens in a market this big with a team that disappoints this badly:

    Players start leaking. Usually via their agents, who leak to their trusted go-to writers. Haugh, Campbell, others. They start telling their side of the story inside those meetings. I expect the butchering of Trestman to start soon. Maybe reason enough to pick up an online subscription to the Trib. I can’t bring myself to support that rag, but in all honesty, it’s where they will leak to.

  • GPLDAN

    I like how Biggsy calls it a “come from ahead loss”.

    Also, I haven’t seen that much Gabardine in one fabric since I went to see the local seamstress about fixing my curtains.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/

    • Viva

      He looks like a couch.

  • CanadaBear

    If I thought the Bears brain trust (now there’s an oxymoron, accent on moron) would actually hire the correct people I’d be all over a house cleaning. I could see Emery firing Nessman to save his ass but he would just hire another Nessman. I’d love to see George restructure the FO by making Teddy Prez of business only and hiring a real football guy to run the org. Let that guy hire the GM and HC. I have no idea who any of these people might be but I’m not paid to be an NFL insider.

  • GPLDAN

    Dallas got raw dogged on national TV by a better Eagles team they have to turn around and re-play in Philly after coming to Chicago.

    Dallas has everything to play for, to keep Wildcard hopes alive. The Bears got shit. Old Sauce’s payback game is going to be a motherfucker. You can probably get tickets next week for half of face value if you really have your heart set on freezing your ass off at Soldier’s Field. Plus, Jeff will be there to tail gate with.

  • Bender McLugh

    alrighty………….so if Trest is canned…………….THEN WHO?

    – Toub (obvious but won’t happen)
    – Chucky (is he too comfortable in his ESPN gig to leave?)
    – Shanahan Sr. (this makes me nervous, not sure he would do much more than Trest)
    – Cowher (no thanks)
    – ………….

    • GPLDAN

      I would love to have Gruden take the helm. I’d even be prepared to give Shanny the Tranny dual coach/GM thing he enjoyed in Denver.

      • CanadaBear

        Once those guys get on TV it seems like the fire goes out. Shanny the Tranny has been awful for years. I’m sure he’d be a step up from Nessman but that’s faint praise. All of these guys (PE, Nessman, Cutler) are basically tied to each other for the next 2 years. I’m guessing they all get the keys to the street at the same time. In 2 years.

        • GPLDAN

          You are probably right. Seems like Gruden is young enough to bring it still, but once the income skyrockets from the ESPN deals, life is so much easier at the same income level – what’s the rush to 90 hour work weeks?

          It’s a shame we blew it on Arians. Chicago loves characters and he is one.

          • SC Dave

            Yeah, can’t imagine why Gruden would bother. It’s not like he’s outside the game entirely.

        • Bender McLugh

          agreed for no good reason whatsoever…….I just don’t see Trestman getting his walking papers after this season.

      • Bender McLugh

        agreed on Gruden, he’s the type of character fans would love

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      none of the above.

      The best are the coaching crew of the 49ers. Maybe you get 2 out of 3. Maybe all 3.

      PS: I’d chose Josh McDaniels before those 4 you wrote there.

      • Bender McLugh

        HA McDaniels…..that’s funny………….remember what happened the last time McD (oil) & Cutty (water) were in the same room together?

        Oh wait….I see what you did there………..

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          You’re welcome.

  • wreckinball

    Two more wins maybe only one more win and he keeps his job

    Lose out I think he’s toast

    • GPLDAN

      It’s not THAT they lose – it’s HOW they lose.

      As somebody pointed out, Trestman has the same record at this stage in his tenure as Lovie and Ditka had. It’s that the team seems to think he’s such a massive pussy and don’t believe in him that is the real problem.

      • Bender McLugh

        based on Thayer? Who else has reported this?

        • GPLDAN

          While Hub doesn’t use such language as “massive pussy”, he has flat out stated he thinks Trestman has lost the team.

          Doug and OB call him a pussy.

          • Bender McLugh

            Hub – oye.

      • wreckinball

        Oh I agree but don’t underestimate the Bears tendency to do nothing

        Actually that sums up out O and D game plans yesterday

      • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

        Hub is “el chingon”, he should run the team.

  • Bender McLugh

    ALTERNATE PLAN – Keep Trestman for 2 more years, hire a DC

    so who is the DC? I don’t want to hear Rex, just assume he isn’t touchable……

    • NewBearInTown

      No no no. The defense is not the problem. This team needs to play better defense, Tucker might need to be replaced, but our offense was supposed to be our identity. We’ve committed major resources to the offense and if I’m Emery, I’m looking to add another couple of offensive pieces in the draft and FA this year. We need a man who will make that offense shine.
      Trestman has shown flashes, he might turn into a great offensive HC some day. But he’s lost this team.

      • Bender McLugh

        I keep hearing “lost this team”, yet nothing solid coming out from the players. I just don’t see it………..but I am definitely blinded by my support of this team

      • Bender McLugh

        and also, I completely disagree the defense isn’t the problem. Not sure how ANYONE can say that given the aborhent stench they are showing this year. Improvement against the run but nothing to back that up………

        30th in the league in penalty yards against the defense, which I would think is the DB’s mostly.

      • SC Dave

        It’s because it’s all speculation. The tale is the team is playing like shit, and whatever it is they’re doing to “coach” them is not working.

        All this bullshit about “losing the team” is nothing more than enabling underperformance of a group of highly paid (ostensibly) professional athletes. Making excuses for bullshit execution on the field.

        Trestman is not out there making pre-snap penalties. Trestman is not out there holding people. Trestman is not out there missing blocks or dropping passes.

        • CanadaBear

          Pretty sure you can’t fire all the players.

          • SC Dave

            You don’t need to fire players. Benching a couple should be enough to wake the rest of them up. If not, then you *really* have a problem with the roster.

            You know I never thought much of Ditka as a coach, but he was pretty good at holding players accountable. He purged a lot of guys from the team when he came in. Something the Emery and Trestman did not, but perhaps should, have done. Lance Briggs, for one, comes to mind.

          • BearDown100393

            Lance Briggs purged the Bears while still getting paid.

          • BearDown100393

            Keep Fuller, Long, Forte, Jeffery & Young. The rest can be terminated with extreme prejudice.

        • NewBearInTown

          That’s the thing. If one guy is committing penalties and dropping passes, you look at how the coach handles it, but you assume its an issue with the player.
          The Bears are a sloppy team. Everyone is dropping balls, committing penalties and looking slow. That’s a systemic problem. The coach installs the system. The coach is supposed to motivate the players and create an environment where they are in the right place mentally to cut down on those errors.
          If you put it all on the players, you can hire two coordinators and eliminate the HC position altogether.

          • SC Dave

            I have to agree that the staff has been too reluctant to bench guys. For instance, I would have sat Marshall down in the 2nd quarter yesterday. I’d have sat Cutler down in the Green Bay game. I’d have sat Garza yesterday (assuming there is anyone left on the oline not starting or on IR).

            But Trestman does not do that, and I agree that is a problem. A big problem.

            OTOH, Lovie didn’t either (“Rex is our QB”).

      • wreckinball

        Defense is a problem but a known one Offense was not supposed to be a problem

  • NewBearInTown

    If I owned an NFL expansion team this off-season, these are my first calls for HC:
    1) Dave Toub – And I would not call him for the Bears. Bringing in a Lovie guy is too much of an admission of failure. You can admit that Trestman was a bad hire. You can’t admit that Lovie was a bad fire.
    2) Ray Horton – He could be the next Arians. Feisty DC who has made lousy defenses great all over the league. For some reason (some say race) he hasn’t gotten so much as a sniff for a head coaching job.
    3) Rob Ryan – Family pedigree and, like Horton, makes great defenses wherever he goes. Biggest knock is that he’s the wilder brother; the tame one is Rex Ryan.
    The problem with Ryan and Horton is that they are 3-4 guys. We don’t run that personnel. I worry about committing to that kind of change. Then again, I look at our roster and there aren’t a lot of guys that we’d lose in the changeover – maybe Sutton or Ego would take a step back.
    4) Gary Kubiak – He gave the Texans a lot of offensive production in his time there. He’s working wonders for Baltimore (in an offense that I think is exactly what the Bears should be running). But he is a bit of a re-tred; still, that experience could command respect.
    5) A top college HC like Jimbo Fisher – I’m not very conversant in college ball, but Fisher (Jameis Winston’s coach) seems like the best offensive mind in the NCAA that hasn’t proven himself a bad fit for the pros. I have no idea if Fisher would be a good fit for the Bears, but if Emery likes “out of the box” this is definitely an option.

    • SC Dave

      While Toub certainly was an imaginative and great special teams coach with the Bears, is there more behind him that he should be considered a HC candidate?

      • NewBearInTown

        Actually its what you just said. He was an imaginative and great coordinator. You hope that he can translate that imagination, attention to detail and ability to generate consistent performance from his players into the head coaching role.
        But you’d have to interview him at length to find out: (1) what he would do with the offense; (2) what he would do with the defense; (3) who his staff would be to help with those issues; (4) what he could do to help the overall culture of the organization.
        If this was an expansion team with no history, Toub and Horton are my first calls without question.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Neither was Ditka’s, for what it’s worth.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Things seemed on the rise going into this season but the regression on offense, especially given the tools at hand, is very distressing..

  • Scharfinator

    I think it is easy to blame Nessman, the players, PE, and whoever else is highly visible in the organization. The true problem, I think, is with the ownership. Until the McCaskey’s die off or get someone truly organizationally minded, the franchise will suffer as a business, team, and community.

    http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0913/nfl-values-10-bears-chicago-football-money-midgets-midway.html

  • Gary

    Cutler should NOT be the Bears QB in 2015 says a 50 year Bears fan rooting for Green Bay today! VERY SAD.

  • Raymondo

    On what planet does running play-action from a formation that one never actually has run out of work?

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