• Big Mike

    A first, first.

  • MB30SD

    Jesus, he’s also a schedule asshole.

    Unsubscribe.

    Hey dave, I have another sympathy fucking chicken for you.

    Guys… The draft is THE most important even of the off season. Hands. Fucking. Down.

    The schedfuckingule?!?!?! Seriously?!?!

    • Trac

      Would you like some grey poupon with that sire?

    • MB30SD

      Oh, and what all africans do with them. .. eat it.

    • johnnywad

      This is like when I tell my son the Oreos are no good. He quietly stares at me, never relinquishing his grip on the bag. He politely nods his head in mock agreement. I would guess he’s already stopped hearing me and is thinking about Oreos at this point. And then . . . . before I’ve even completely finished the thought, he calmly twists an Oreo in half and scrapes the filling off with his teeth and turns his attention back to Sportscenter.

      Wasting your breath Boss.

      • MB30SD

        I get it maings, and good story (how old is your son to like oreos AND sportscenter?). It just boggles my fucking mind. And as a philosophy i couldn’t give a rat’s ass… except that this is a bears football blog and we come here (somewhat) for the programming. So uh, next week there better be more than one lame fucking post about how unimportant the draft is. I pay good money to be here!

        Oh, and a live fucking chat while the draft happens is what I really want, but of course it’s not important enough to get done. SMFC

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      shaking my fucking chicken?

      • SC Dave

        choke that thang

  • MB30SD

    live… twitter… mock… draft.

    everything we love and hate wrapped up into a single package: http://nfl.si.com/2014/04/25/2014-nfl-mock-draft-twitter/?eref=sihp

  • Trac

    And how are these rants even mildly entertaining? This is bad programming Jeff. Turrible, simply turrible.

    • DaBearsBlog

      And yet thousands of people still click and listen to the Reverend each time I post one.

    • Doc Nitty

      Disagree. It’s funny shit most of the time.

      • Trac

        I should have said “for me”. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

        • Doc Nitty

          Still disagree. You know you love them..

          • Trac

            Ha.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          I’m with you Trac. ‘Pretend rants’ – I don’t get it. They don’t tickle my funny bone.

          And Jefe, don’t confuse clicks with ‘likes’. People click what’s there to be clicked. If there was a likes/dislikes button, I think there’d be a very different message returned. But it’s your blog, I don’t care, if you want your friend up there then so be it.

    • MB30SD

      I like them just cause he seems like a funny dude.

    • I looooovee the Rev Rants. My favorite segment on this blog, by far (though I did like the contests a few years back). I mean, look at him with his sympathy chicken in Malawi.

      Bet you can’t type that sentence on another blog in a million years.

      • Cormonster

        My old man cracks up every time I play a Reverend’s rant, maybe because he has a potty mouth. He was a truck driver around Chicago, so he can out cuss damn near anyone.

  • DaBearsBlog

    Never have I once said the draft is unimportant. What I have said, and will always say, is that every miserable moment spent on pre-draft analysis and mocks is completely fucking wasted. It’s a bore. It’s pointless. The draft happens. Your team has new players. Why does this require THREE MONTHS of guessing? Answer: it didn’t for the first zillion years of the NFL and it doesn’t now. It’s fucking masturbation. The league making GMs and coaches believe they’re smarter than they are.

    • MB30SD

      It’s not a bore jeff, it’s not wasted. It’s fun, it’s exciting… it’s what the offseason is all about and culminates in.

      Your POV is not the norm I’d fathom, and you’d be more than welcome to it, if you weren’t an NFL blogger. Play to your audience maings. You could do contests and all kinds of fun stuff. Just sayin.

      • Doc Nitty

        I like that Jeff doesn’t pander to the audience.

        • gpldan

          Jeff is to blogging as Arcade Fire is to music: somewhat contemptuous of his own fans.

          • Doc Nitty

            or like Urlacher…

          • DaBearsBlog

            Yea. It’s out of pure contempt I do what no other NFL blogger does in this country: create new contest every single day during an NFL season.

            Sometimes I think you guys forget you’re the overwhelmingly vocal minority of readership.

          • gpldan

            Yes, I know. We’ve watched for 5 years as you post some contest, and 15 accounts de-lurk to say “consider me!”. It’s annoying that all these people read the blog and have nothing to say about anything.

            I chalk this up to them being afraid of the Luftwaffle, ready to strafe them at a moment’s notice if they get even a little bit nerdy.

          • CanadaBear

            Really baffles me. Yes, MB can be hard on newbies (not that kinda hard on) but it’s truly not a big deal. The rest of us are all pretty tame and welcoming. Not to mention, if you can’t take a little ribbing, you’re taking yourself way too seriously. I truly appreciate Jeff doesn’t censor the comments. I also really appreciate the way things always work themselves out. Yeah, somebody always gets their nose a little out of joint from time to time but it all comes out in the wash. Huntinbear is the only regular poster I can remember that got his nose out of joint and left and that was over a misunderstanding. We’re kinda, sorta like adults on this blog (very immature adults to be sure!!!!!).

          • A LITTLE ribbing? GP is calling Johnny the Luftwaffle! (Love you johnny, but that nickname is HILARIOUS). I’m sure we’ve all felt ill will toward each other at one time or another, familiarity breeds contempt, but we shake it off and remain civil, unless you’re a romanian black irish lizard rothchild.

          • CanadaBear

            All of us cross the line occasionally but being adults, we usually work it out. If Jeff edited the comments or blocked people, a lot of the regs would disappear. I know I would. Jeff, thanks again for treating us like the adults we will never become!

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Yeah, Jeff absolutely wins a blog t-shirt for ‘no censorship’.

            Unlike Dane Noble … who is a cock-goblin and a nonce.

          • MB30SD

            we’re a fraternity, whether you (doc) likes that or not, and what’s a frat without a little n00b hazing. We’ve all been here for years, some douche comes in and starts being a dick to regs Damn sure I get onto them. Call me the house mom.

          • CanadaBear

            I get that. Personally I think you’re a little too hard on some of them (esp the ones that are a little limited) but as you’ve mentioned (and I agree) I can be a puss sometimes. Different strokes. If everyone was the same this place would suck ass. It’s like the episode of the Twilight Zone where the miserable prick wishes everyone is like him. That didn’t exactly work out for him.

          • Max

            Done. I shall now refer to you henceforth as house mother

          • Goodbye, Bearskies…

            http://youtu.be/_kGOAWnvyWA

          • DaMurph

            Luftwaffle, nice!

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            And even after all I’ve done to make all our black/brown female Bear-chick posters feel warm, welcome and wanted … WOOF!

          • CanadaBear

            Don’t get your almost disdain for the draft stuff. I don’t follow college ball at all and the only education I get on these players is from “the overwhelmingly vocal minority of readership.” That statement almost sounds like you resent us. I’d say you’re lucky to have us. Yes, I enjoy your blog very much (other than that twitter nonsense) but the main reason I’m here is “the overwhelmingly vocal minority of readership.” Pretty sure I’m the norm and not an outlier.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Well said Sir. It’s not readers who change the world, it’s writers.

            God help the faint-of-heart who can’t summon the ‘courage’ required to post a thought online, Thoreau’s mass of men leading lives of quiet desperation. Tragic.

          • Maybe we, the vocal minority, are a big reason for the clicks?

            MB putting up Kate Upton pics sure doesn’t hurt.

          • gpldan

            We could get T-shirts that say “We are the 1%”

            Not sure how that would fly in public, though.

          • MB30SD

            I love bourgeois trappings with my thanksgiving dinner.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            I think it might be half-half. Only a poll could say for sure.

            I’d guess 50 daily hits on this blog are NSA/CIA/DEA/ATF/FBI/NRO ….

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            We may be the minority, but we’re pretty much the only ones who are overwhelmingly vocal.

        • Cormonster

          Jeff’s like the honey badger, he don’t care.

      • DaBearsBlog

        Very surprised to hear this from you. Play to your audience? There are plenty of other shit sites you can go to and read uneducated guesses. I created this thing my way and its successful because I don’t do the very thing you’re proposing: play to an audience.

        • MB30SD

          you know I loves you maings, we all do… but it’s about content creation, super easy, super fun, super poignant content for all of us football freaks here.

          I wasn’t suggesting you post frivolous vacuous drivel that can be found on bleacher report.

          We’re talking about the draft Jeff. Here, let me put it this way… how many of us have you heard like the schedule release more than the draft?

          We all love the draft jeff… we WANT you to cover it. We’re all TELLING you we love it and don’t give a shit about the sched over and above the day it’s released.

          Do no maings, not sure how more direct it can be. It’s a ton of easy content with countless optys for you to make money from it. Just sayin

          • Doc Nitty

            If you don’t post post what you’re passionate about, but what people want you to post, you’re being a pop star. I fucking hate pop stars.

          • MB30SD

            pop stars make money… and get pussy.

            I’m in!

          • Cormonster

            Shame! Shame! Shame! (While pointing finger at you),

          • I totally agree with you MB, but asking someone to like something they don’t is like asking a girl to like giving head. Some are just into, others are not.

            It would be nice if ALL women were into it, but alas, life is cruel.

          • MB30SD

            I agree my maings. Life is indeed cruel.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            NYU do a Masters course in ‘Web content creation & how to watch TV and drink beer at the same time’. It’s sponsored by the Make-a-dream foundation so you don’t even have to pay fees.

            (BigCheesy if you’re reading this, that was a joke, don’t go googling that ….)

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          You mean you think it’s successful … because of something …. but until you poll your readership you’ll never know.

          Case in point : I come here to read the comments section, not read what’s up top. It could be Sing-with-Elmo up top. Different strokes for different folks.

          Turn off commenting for a week and see how many hits you get.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      A four-day draft is masturbation. Bad, flaccid masturbation.

  • DaBearsBlog

    And you’re right. This is a Bears blog. So why would I waste time analyzing a collection of players who won’t end up on the Bears roster? Remember how much shit you people spewed endlessly on Arthur Brown? How much impact did he have on the 2013 season? (Answer: zero.)

    • gpldan

      Brown did make me watch more Kansas State Highlights last year.

      Perhaps we have different values surrounding the enjoyment of research. In looking at Brown’s film, I developed thoughts about the KSU Program and how he compared to other film I saw. Such that when I saw Kahseem Greene’s highlights I looked at elements to contrast between him and Brown and every other OLB I saw coming out.

      By your measure, Jeff – none of us subscribe to the All 22 film program and break down the film to the level of Our Boy Roy used to – and if we did we’d probably get sued – we just watch the regular TV feeds of games and by that measure – none of us are fit to comment about anything in the game because we don’t see the game like the players do. Therefore watching football at all is a waste of time.

      This is also known as the Urlacher FU speech, which goes something akin to: You fans don’t know shit about what you are watching, you don’t know the defense called or the assignments, therefore nothing you think about football or my career matters.

      Having an opinion about Arthur Brown coming into the draft was not wasted time. Now that’s trying to come off his hernia and fight to start instead of just being a nickel LB, it’s relevant knowledge to have had. It reminds you – oh remember all the hype on him – he panned out to be nothing more than a nickel LB despite being called the best LB in years, because at 230 he was just too small for the Ravens to start.

      Edit: I keep editing because I keep linking ideas here: isn’t it good to be a fan of the sport as a whole rather than just the Bears? I’m not sure one can hold themselves up as having worthy opinions in a blog unless one has a survey of the whole league. Take Data aka the Wood man: his data roams and seeks all corners of the sport. Maybe he could guest blog.

      • DaBearsBlog

        It’s not akin to that at all. Football games are tangible things. You can look at them and evaluate. Draft speculation is not a tangible thing because nobody knows what any of the teams are thinking. It is pure guesswork. And I don’t understand the joy of guesswork.

        • gpldan

          I agree that’s it’s guess work to try and speculate who Phil will take. Because Phil is like the Dalai Lama of GMs, unknowable in his true form.

          But if we all look at all the available players, and we go through the mocks and study the film on the players we think work in the system, and form opinions on that – it’s not wasted time.

          If Phil has Donald open at 14, and he passes on him – and Donald goes onto the Packers and 6 Pro Bowls, I will NOT forget that.

          As it stands, I shall never forget we could have taken Chandler Jones instead of Dinner, and we could have had Tyler Eifert rather than Long. Not because I will always be right, but to understand why I was wrong.

          I was annoyed last year when we passed on Eifert because I saw that kid as Tony G. Part Deux. He’s really not panning out that way for the Bengals, let’s see how this year goes. That’s all part of looking at mocks, to remember what might have been so you can 2nd guess the shit outta Emery if it doesn’t all pan out. 🙂

          • DaBearsBlog

            But studying players and mock drafts are vastly different. Draft is an exciting event. Guessing and listening to team-sold BS is not fun.

          • gpldan

            I find the Clowney FUD being back-channeled to be amusing. Which is true: kid has a shit work ethic and is bound for Len Bias-dom, or he’s LT part II and the Texans snap him up? Time will tell.

          • MB30SD

            wrong, it’s all fun, no matter what’s real or not. It’s all there is in the off season… it’s fun and exciting.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Are you on the Ebron Train GP? If Donald wasn’t there, would you take a DB over Ebron?

        • Doc Nitty

          Did you ever play that old game MASH as a kid? You make a square and along the top you put Mansion, Apt, Shack, House. Down the sides are 4 car choices or 4 women choices and across the bottom might be the number of kids you’re going to have. Does anyone else remember playing this? Then, if I remember right, you pick a number and start counting off by that number crossing off options along the way. In the end, you will end up with say, Halle Berry, in a mansion with a truck and 3 kids…

          Did it matter? No. Was it accurate? Hell no. Was it fun at the time? I thought so.

          Then again, using that analogy, it does equate the whole process of guessing draft picks to a ridiculous kids game.

          So, using this analogy, which was picked to counter your argument, Jeff. I’ve instead added credence to your position. Oops and you’re welcome…

          • MB30SD

            no you didn’t doc… kids games are sometimes still fun.

          • sometimes? I still get a kick saying, “Sorry” and sending my cousins back to the start.

        • MB30SD

          but jeff, you’re missing the point.

          IT’S FUN!

          That’s the long and short of it dude. it’s fun to do as a fan, and it’s an activity that goes on for months… that’s another thing I don’t get about your POV re: the draft…

          it’s easy content fodder for you… for months during the slow off season. makes no sense

        • Shady

          Says the guy who filled out a NCAA bracket for Buffet’s Billion.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Report the news, don’t analyze it kind of thing? I support that. Tell me the news, not what to think about it.

      • DaBearsBlog

        You can analyze players. Aaron Donald is a great player in my eyes. Will he be on the Bears next year? How in the hell would I know? How do I know what the 13 teams ahead of the Bears think about him?

        • bearsfantillend

          How is that any different from analyzing a schedule? No one knows how any of the teams will perform at the time we play them. So to say we should go 3-2 during any stretch of the season is pointless. Its a long time between schedule release and the start of any games. Fluke injuries, suspensions, arrests, car accidents, crazy girlfriends or family members stabbing players, all play into how a team will perform during the season. The only thing the schedule really tells you is which teams and in what cities are going to take the field and when the bye week is. It is all speculation at this time of year, but with that speculation comes hope. And there is no more significant event that brings hope to fans as the draft. We pretty much all know the Bears needs, and we all know by now who are the best players coming out of college are. Its the ‘What Ifs’ that are intriguing. We all spent 10 years with a very strong gut feeling that we could do better than the Bears GM, 10 years knowing we were going to second guess almost every draft decision he made. But now there is the hope that we finally have a GM that approaches the draft with more information in hand than Mel Kipers 2nd version of his Mock draft.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          I think he’s gone by 10. But that opens up the bag … who to take then? What if they’re gone etc. etc.

          It’s the biggest thing besides the Super Bowl.

      • Johnathan Wood

        the thing with Brown is that he is not a 3-4 ILB, he’s a 4-3 ILB. He’s too small to be a full-time 3-4 ILB, IMO. Was a puzzling pick to me when BAL made it.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      How we would have spewed endlessly at the foot of any ‘Draft Greg Olsen #1’ columns !

  • Bender McLugh

    Question asked on ESPN – Who is the most influential player in nfl history? I have two……Unitas or Butkus

    • Doc Nitty

      Those are good choices. I might go with Jerry Rice (have you seen the change in reciever play since he came into the league?) and Jim Brown. But that’s two from offense. So I guess Butkus might be the choice on defense.

      Okay, so I don’t seem like a homer, I’ll say Rice and Mean Joe Greene.

      On the other hand, how can I not put a QB in there?

      Fuck it. The answer is Payton and Butkus.

      • gpldan

        Reggie White. Changed the entire way front fours are drafted and played. He was the Charles Darwin of players – he redefined what traits were naturally selected in the draft.

        • Reggie was also the first big FA to sign with another team, and FA totally changed the landscape of the NFL. You might be on to something here.

          LT changed the way the NFL protected QBs too. And Prime Time almost created “lockdown corner”. hmmmmm

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            There should be a band called Lockdown Corner. Their support band should be called Smelly Fanny. That is all.

          • gpldan

            Their greatest hits album could be called “3rd and Long”

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        I’d pooh pooh any list with Rice on it, Doc. Hutson was a more dominant receiver when he played. When you catch three times as many TDS as the #2 receiver in the league, you own the position. Can I get a witness?

        Lawrence Taylor is in the discussion. Left tackles got paid more after him.

        Ray Guy? Who’s the second greatest punter of all time?

        • Doc Nitty

          Posting that kind of stuff (don hutson, really?) does not help your other more seemingly logical posts. It makes one doubt your thairish logic.

          • Johnathan Wood

            Hutson started the practice of watching film, so I can see an argument for him as most influential. Same with whoever starting weightlifting first (and doing steroids)

          • SC Dave

            Don Huston was, by far, the most dominant wide receiver in the history of the NFL.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Hutson was far and away playing a different game to the other receivers. Jerry Wasn’t. Three times as many TDs as the #2 receiver? That’s owning.

            If Jerry was drafted by the Cleveland Browns ….

        • NewBearInTown

          LT and Hutson were the two guys that jumped to my mind.
          The problem with QBs is there were just so many players that advanced offensive football over the years. Joe Montana could get a nod for being the first to perfect the West Coast offense, but he wasn’t the first play the offense (Virgil Carter was). Dan Marino could get a nod for the being the guy to set the bar for the modern offenses throwing so much. I’m not enough of a historian, but I’m sure you can go back in time and see a lot of other influential guys. First to be a “pocket passer,” first to work with progressions, first to perfect the spiral. But stuff like that happens on an almost yearly basis in the NFL, I’m not sure I can think of any QB that was a decade ahead of his time.
          LT and Hutson were both a decade ahead of their time. Butkus and Halas are both guys you could say that about, but I think they lose out in that debate.
          As much as it pains me to say this, Walter Payton is great not so much for how he changed the game as for how well he played it. He was a tremendous player, but I don’t know that he revolutionized offensive football or his position as much as others have. I think the same is true of Jerry Rice.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            I’ll put Dan Fouts in front of Dan Marino – he was putting it up there long before Dan in Air Coryell.

      • Johnathan Wood

        you could argue LT too. Changed the game defensively to the modern era.

        But I’d have to go Halas, just because he had such an impact in off-field stuff too (I know, that’s cheating). Tough to pick just one player, would be better to do one from each era on each side of the ball IMO.

        • Cormonster

          How about Red Grange? He helped popularize the NFL as a legitimate league.

          • Johnathan Wood

            that would be another one.

          • Cormonster

            Have you read Halas by Halas young man?

          • Johnathan Wood

            no I have not. Will have to check it out.

          • Cormonster

            I strongly suggest that you read it. You can probably get a used copy on Amazon for $10 -$12 bucks, or buy or rent it if your into other sources. It mainly covers George Halas’ life and the history of the NFL through about 1960.

          • Johnathan Wood

            sounds like a great read. I’ll try to buy it for my kindle

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      The first dude who thought “fuck it” and threw the first forward pass.

      Or George Halas, that’s all I got.

    • SC Dave

      I would take Bill George over Butkus, although the latter was the best defensive player I’ve ever seen. George essentially invented the position of middle linebacker, so in a sense we owe him for Butkus, Singletary, and Urlacher.

  • Sactowns#1

    Just ordered this to get the bad taste of that last game out of my mouth. Lets hope it helps. http://www.amazon.com/NFL-Greatest-Rivalries-Defeat-Packers/dp/B003O97W4Q/ref=sr_1_148?ie=UTF8&qid=1398446465&sr=8-148&keywords=chicago+bears

    • MB30SD

      I was going to guess conte jersey first.

      So that vid obviously doesn’t include the last 10 years. SMFC

  • Doc Nitty

    What you do with the chicken, Rev, is eat the fucking thing.

    That, or you could save it to give to some Packer fan you know after the bears sweep them this year. Spread the sympathy chicken around, mang!

    • I think he should buy it a #50 Jersey and call it “Dinner”.
      Then, every Sunday (or Monday morning in Malawi?), watch Da Bears with it. How could a sympathy chicken not bring anything but good luck?

  • MB, GP, Doc, and almost every other reg who likes draft musings…I think you’re wasting your breath trying to convince Jeff that discussing and analyzing the draft is fun as fuck.

    It’s like when I brought up football, and one of my philosophy professors interjected, “You actually ENJOY watching a bunch of millionaires playing with a ball?” to which I responded, “Many of life’s biggest thrills are irrational. For instance, you’re engaged. I find THAT even more baffling.” He sorta just looked at me. Not sure if he wanted to chuckle or punch me, but he didn’t disagree.

    Different stroke for different folks, as they say, but a football blogger not being that into the the pre-draft process is akin to a football player not liking to work out – it’s sort of a big part of the NFL offseason.

    Not saying a mock draft everyday, but how about this for an idea. Put up a profile of the players consistently mocked to the Bears? Donald, Dix, Jernigan, Pryor, Gilbert, maybe some dark horses, and what your take is on them for the Bears? WHY? Because it might be fun, but also educational for those invisible readers.

    I’m sure they enjoy MB’s, Data’s, NBIT’s thoughts on it, but MAYBE they would like to hear Jeff’s take?

    Could put in your two cents about Clowney, Manziel, etc too, guys who are going to make an impact in the NFL one way or another. Seems relevant, no?

    Just a thought.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      I half-expect somebody to trade up for the first pick and pick JOHNNY FOOTBALL ……ladies and gentlemen ….. JOHNNY FOOTBALL …. just because somebody could be that impulsive. “Make a splash!” as Costner is told by the owner on draft day “Or else ….”

      I think Donald could be the right piece for us, but if they do go with Pryor, then trading up for Tuitt in the 2nd is a must. We need a dominant force at 3T or the rest doesn’t work.

      If people feel deja vu if they go with Ebron at #14, then don’t throw yourselves off any ledges. It wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world to happen to our offense. We could still trade up for Tuitt in 2 and have a potential freak for 8 years.

      • I’m sensing a trend here…almost as if you like Tuitt or something.

        Johnny Football…ahhh…the enigma wrapped in a rubix cube…I like Manziel. Talk about ‘impact’, future QBs might all go the “Manziel Route” on Pro Days from now on.

        I see plenty arm, accuracy, mobility, leadership, mental toughness…but will his body withstand NFL punishment? His very competitiveness leads him not to slide. They’ve been trying to teach Vick to slide for a decade now, and he still doesn’t.

        Also worry about his ‘happy feet’ – can he actually remain in the pocket, make his progressions, and throw last second, taking the big hit? Or will his instinct take over and make him bolt?

        If I were the Jags or the Browns or some other sorry ass team, I would draft him. I think he would bring that extra ‘it’ factor to help turn around the perception that they’re “factories of sadness” – which would help not just with the fans, but with FA. When you’re the Jags or the Browns, you must take risks.

        • Shady

          I’ll be honest, I’d rather him go to an AFC team or anywhere outside of a division opponent.

          • Many mistakenly believe he’s like Romo – he’s not. Romo is an “awe, chucks” type of guy. Manziel is a “I’m going to donkey punch your sister, and send you the video” type of guy.

            Every other QB was scared of Bama and Saban. Manziel RELISHED the chance to teabag them. He’s got chutzpah.

            But can his frame cash checks his chutzpah writes? that’s the question.

            Some point to Wilson and Brees as precedents, but they’re more ‘cerebral” types. Manziel is the fiery type who’ll put his shoulder down for the first down. That won’t fly in the NFL, unless you’re Cam or Kap.

          • Bender McLugh

            Or RGIII……oh wait

          • That’s the fear. As crazy as it sounds, some QBs are too competitive for their own good. Vick and RG3 always believe they could get that extra yard. They’ve paid that price.

            Can Manziel re-wire himself and become more Wilson-ish? Run out of bounds two yards before the marker? Slide even though it might make him look like a slight pussy? Chuck it into the stands instead of bolting and trying to salvage a dead play?

            Stay tuned…

          • MB30SD

            no. bodybag in 2 years.

          • The Jags and Browns change QBs every two years anyways, might as well sell some jerseys.

            I wouldn’t draft him for the Bears…well, maybe in the 2nd.

          • MB30SD

            kid’s also an asshole

          • MB30SD

            exactly. Asshole.

            Everyone says ‘aw, he’s just a kid, give him a break’.

            One or two fuck ups and yeah, he’s a kid. Then his coach talks to him and straightens him out. As many incidents as he’s had… in my mind, the douche is the biebs of college fb. asshole.

          • SC Dave

            Jim MacMahon

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Wiki has Mac coming out of college with 70 NCAA records to his credit. Manziel’s just says ‘numerous records’, so I’m guessing it’s nowhere near 70.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Exactly. What becomes of these bootlegging gazelles? How many running QBs have had 10-14 year careers? Randall Cunningham is an exception, and he was exceptional.

            I think most people would plump for a Brady/Brees pocket passer.

        • tobijohn

          Cutler had the same “problem” but I think he finally might be getting that it’s in the best interests of the team to take the slide…

          • SC Dave

            Sure hope so,

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            I’d rather see him throw it away than slide. I actually think he’s almost given up running – it was a strong feature in his game. He was mobile. Now he’s not, by choice. With the number of weapons we have now, it’s the perfect thing for him to do.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          I don’t watch college ball. Amateur sports. Yada yada. But didn’t JOHNNY FOOTBALL run for like 1500 yards? In one season? If that’s his game, then he’ll get broken up. I’ll enjoy watching it too.

          In other news – is anyone here worried about the Lions drafting Donald?

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      I’d like to hear more about the guys that might be around for us in the second and third rounds. We already know who each of us wants in the first. But what about the second, third … fourth?

      • Johnathan Wood

        Guys I love for round 2, should they be there, are CB Pierre Desir, DT Will Sutton, and S Jimmie Ward or Deone Bucannon

        Round 3 I really like Caraun Reid, DT from Princeton, Kelcy Quarles, DT from South Carolina, S Terrence Brooks from FSU, or a host of CBs (it’s hard to tell who’ll be there, because there are literally 10+ CBs that all have a 2nd-3rd round grade).

        If they somehow trade back in round 1 so they have a DT, CB, and S by the end of round 2, I would love love LOVE RB Charles Sims from West Virginia if he’s there. Otherwise a LB like Jordan Tripp from Montana would be sweet too in round 3 or 4 (he’s a small school guy but an absolute stud in coverage). I also like Yawin Smallwood from UConn in round 4 (Pasqualoni coached him at LB there, could be a pick).

        If they somehow have pretty much their D needs filled by round 4, I’d be psyched with Aaron Murray were he still there.

        Late in the draft I really like Trey Burton and Colt Lyerla at TE (though Lyerla is a risk with off-field stuff) and Isaiah Crowell at RB (another guy with off-field problems, though his are less than Lyerla’s IMO). Lotta RB talent that should be there in rounds 5-6.

        • Johnathan Wood

          oh yeah, I also like S Marquestion Huff in round 4 or 5. Another small school guy (Wyoming); Bears have met with him a few times. I wouldn’t be opposed to them doubling down at S with Huff (a FS/CB hybrid) if they grab Bucannon or Pryor early (both project to SS).

          • tobijohn

            I draft him just for his name…

          • MB30SD
          • tobijohn

            That was f’n funny. Those names will be popping into my head now for the next week..

          • MB30SD

            Shady found it about a year ago. We’ve been quoting it ever since. It’s pretty awesome. They did a second one… but it just new names. Kind of a one – time bit.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            T’Variusness …

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Dude I was halfway through that until I realised it was a spoof. Names get that dumb.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            1. Don’t you just want to sit down with his momma, Mrs. Huff (Ms.?)… “Sh’Qu’oneefa …. why did you call your son … Marquestion ?”

            2. Do we want to draft our SS in the first? Even if Donald’s not there .. .can we pass up Moseley ?

          • Johnathan Wood

            I want defensive BPA in the first, with priority to DT then S, in that order, if it’s a tie. If you believe Mosley is best player by a mile, you take him (if he’s even there, which is no gimme. I could see TB, MIN, NYG grabbing him, maybe STL at 13 too).

            I’m fine with any S in the first if they believe he’s worthy of the pick. Pretty thin draft at S, so may have to “overdraft” a little. Only 4 surefire instant starters, IMO (HHCD, Pryor, Bucannon, Ward), and all 4 could be gone by the time they pick in round 2.

            One of the reasons I would love a trade back to late round 1 (unless Donald is there, which I don’t think likely at this point). Pick up extra 2nd round pick and still position yourself to take a top S in round 1. SF is reportedly considering moving up for a WR, PIT is reportedly going WR at 15. If they don’t move up for Watkins, Bears could be in prime position there.

    • tobijohn

      Great comeback with the prof. It might actually be right up there with Lloyd Bentsen’s Dan Quayle shot:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-7gpgXNWYI

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Was this Tina Fey or Sarah Palin ?

        “If I were in charge,” Palin said Saturday during a Stand And Fight rally at Lucas Oil Stadium, “[our enemies] would know that waterboarding is how we’d baptize terrorists.”

        So Sarah, you’d water-board babies … and then train them to be terrorists?

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      “You actually ENJOY watching a bunch of millionaires playing with a ball?”

      Yes, Professor no-life .. y’know … like most men on the planet ….. don’t like sports sir? Weren’t very good at sports when you were a kid, were you Sir? Weren’t very comfortable around humans either, were you Sir? Are you a virgin Sir? Why did you dedicate your life to something as useless as Philosophy Sir? What do YOU enjoy Sir?

  • CanadaBear

    Trac I know I’m a dollar short and a day late but I thought MB gave you the best advice to deal with your “friend”. Real friendships are a two-way street and I sure didn’t read about traffic going the other direction. You’re a good man and this guy is taking advantage of it. My 2 cents.

  • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

    Late to the world of MMA but am enjoying so far. I’ve watched docs on the Bracies, Couture, the Shamrock bros, and just now Antonio Silva Vs Fedor, after watching Fedor pound mess out of a lot of people.

    Best heavyweight ever?

    I think spiritual and mental stability would have seen Fedor through Tyson.

    • You’re late to the buff men in short spandex groping each other for 5 rounds party? Didn’t you like big hair bands in the 80s?

      • tobijohn

        Ha! I was in a big hair band in the 80s. Now if we played only half as good as we looked, we might have gone somewhere. Unfortunately, we were terrible…

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        People paid extra to watch UFC and bigtime boxing back in the day.
        Homie don’t pay to watch to watch TV, homes.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        (spits out tobacco juice)

        Uh-uh. That’s MB.

    • Bender McLugh

      Jones v. Texiera will this weekend will be epic. What’s the the +/- on Glover takedowns? 0.5? My money is on Jones, albeit very little money.

      “….size always wins….. but every chin is different” Mickey Rourke. CHURCH.

  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-2015-draft-four-days-20140425,0,6467341.story

    4 days for the draft? Is there a bigger money grubbing whore than Goodell? Is this madness? I want to see them change the names on the Players jerseys for the top advertising bidder.

    Brandon Marshall? Now know as Brandon Marshall Field Days
    Jay Cutler? Now known as Jay Chicken Cutlets on sale at Aldi
    Jared Allen? Now known as Jared The all new Cadillac ESV visit Cadillac.com for attractive lease offers”

    • A few billionaires need to get together and buy the CFL and instead of using those silly rules, make it like the NFL circa 1995. I’d watch that, and as soon as it gains more and more popularity, start poaching some FAs. Too bad Al Davis is no longer around. He’d probably do it just to stick it to the NFL.

  • Tune in to NFL Net. They’re going over the history of the draft, mentioning even PFW lol

    “Amateur subculture of draft geeks”.

    Dang, I’m yet a part of another sub-culture. That makes about 5 for me.

  • Doc Nitty

    For the record. I come down on Jeff’s side. I find the mocks and constant talk prior to the draft to be very tiresome. I like some if it, it’s the only way I know anything about college players. But it get’s very tiresome. And when someone like Emery surprises everybody with someone like chicken Dinner, it makes it even more agonizing… Again, I don’t mind it, but I tend to skim past most of the draft stuff when perusing the comment section.

    • So twitter posts every day. Done.

      • Doc Nitty

        Fuck.

        More draft please.

        • MB30SD

          you don’t get a vote until you come back to us and post at ;east 3 times a week

    • Trac

      So in others words, you have a life. Lol

      • MB30SD

        that’s overrated.

  • gpldan

    The Thursday Night Fail Mary game Week 1 is going to be a lovely Packer beatdown to revel in.

    • Shady

      Oh the schadenfreude, I can taste it now.

      • MB30SD
        • Shady

          Polar Bears love shit in ice. It’s an activity for those murderous bastards.

          • MB30SD

            I know, which is why I found the pic so funny.

          • Shady

            I expect more from you at this point in your career. Bring the funny!

        • tobijohn

          My old man shot one of those. Had it made into a rug which is hanging on the wall in his game room. It was on the floor until one of the cats pissed on it. Thirty years later and the stain is still there…

          • MB30SD

            Cats.

            SMFC

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Cat’s don’t eat their own feces (or human’s).

            (looks at the judge)

            The defense rests, your honour.

    • SC Dave

      Packers will win.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        You’ll both be able to wager a thousand dollars on it in just a few months.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Make it doubly sweet and take the points on Seattle.

  • Sactowns#1

    This is interesting. http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-04-24/smartest-spenders-in-sports-2014
    Lets hope Phil rights the historical ship.

    • MB30SD

      $5 please Sac

  • MB30SD

    again… mock twitter draft. (look away Jeff!)

    http://nfl.si.com/2014/04/25/2014-nfl-mock-draft-twitter/?eref=sihp

    We get pryor. Rams take Dix right before us. I’d be ecstatic with this result

    • Trac

      I’m telling ya, the Bears are going to draft Mosely. You know why I know MB. Cause the cheese want him and Phil ain’t havin it. Booyah!

      • GB also wants Pryor. Phil has a decision to make.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          If we truly want a MLB, then we’re likely not going to be picking very high next year. Hard to pass on Mosely if Donald’s not there.

      • MB30SD

        Nah, he learned his lesson my maings. He’ll play this one straight.

        We’re taking Dix or Pryor. One will be there for us, and phil will do the right thing. trust me.

        Know why I know trac. Cause he tried that dumb shit with the cheese via CD and he got smacked back HARD. He’s too smart to let that happen again.

        Dix or Pryor at 14. I’ll be way cool with either.

        • tobijohn

          And he admitted he was wrong on him and Hardin…

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Which leaves Stephen Paea as your 3T ? We’ll need a good safety with no interior pass rush this year ….

  • MB30SD

    btw, I saw CB Denard from Mich st. interviewed last night. Wow that kid is a moron.

    • MB30SD

      Nothing? Bueller?

      Dude could barely speak fucking English. Disgraceful maings.

      • Shady

        Listen, you don’t need to be Bill Shakespeare to play football. Whoooooo caaaaaares?

        • MB30SD

          He’s a human being. He’s going to reenter normal society at some time. The disgrace comment was more for Mich St than him. Smfc

    • johnnywad

      They played a game on Mondays on 670 AM called “What did Devin Say?” when he was a rook. They played an audio clip from the post game the day before, and the caller that guessed closest to what he said, won. Worst speaker ever.

      • Cormonster

        Tim Conway Jr has had a similar show every Thursday called “What did Jesse Jackson say?”

        I seen that charlatan speak to a packed at Wisconsin. He went on for about two hours rambling and I left with absolutely no clue what his speech was about, other than getting people to chant “keep hope alive”.

  • Shady

    So I have my own little chicken story…

    Whilst on vacation, I was tasked with occupying the attention of very energetic little 18 month old. My strategy? The chicken dance. Yes, the famous song and dance you see at weddings, bar and bat mitzvahs, family reunions and any other get together where alcohol and a chance to embarrass yourself collide.

    So the kid loves it. He can’t get enough of this shit. The song, the dance the whole bit. He even gets into it himself, raising his arms, shaking his hips and clapping his hands. And one song ain’t enough. The 18 month old hits replay on my phone. Kid knows how to work these smartphones better than his grandma. So I go again, the song, the dance, the whole routine. Finally, song ends… Uncle Shady gets to relax… Not so fast cause that little mother plucker keeps hitting repeat and starts crying until you get your drunk sunburnt ass up and start dancing again. And again. And again.

    DANCE, MONKEY, DANCE!

    It’s like every member of the family is his personal entertainment system. Daddy steals his nose, mommy has the binkey, grandpa makes funny noises and faces, grandma rides the wheels off of the bus and Uncle does the chicken dance. Kids got us trained like monkeys.

    Needless to say, if I hear the chicken dance one more time, Charlie Murphy is going to have to choke a chicken.

    • MB30SD

      welcome to my last 5 years biatch.

      Birth. Control. (for an unencumbered young man such as yourself)

      Oh, and you think that’s bad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKLaYDORaGY

      • Shady

        You’re right, that’s bad. Really bad. Like don’t ever post garbage like that again bad. I’d rather watch 10 minutes of ads for the ASPCA than that crap. Seriously.

        • MB30SD

          you asked for it.

          • Shady

            This is true.

        • gpldan

          My son says “that’s the worst fate a man can have”

        • SC Dave

          What, that was awesome! The only part that sucked was, well… all of it.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Nah, this is what you need on your phone Shady.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjMOJU26EsU

  • gpldan

    I saw Neil kick it at the Chicago on Monday. The ushers were assholes roaming the aisles with infrared goggles, not that I condone bootlegging because I do not – but I found somebody snagged a vid of one of the show’s more interesting moments, Mr. Soul on a pipe organ

    Man, when Neil thumps the bass string on songs like Ohio, there’s really nothing else I can compare that to. If you can catch him before he stops rollin’ you should.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF6NzFArMf8

    Better version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON_GO0sRuvk

    • MB30SD

      I know what he means to music, but I hate neil young. I find his voice whiny and grinding (not the good kind) at the same time. uhhhg.

      • gpldan
        • MB30SD

          I was thinking something more like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_88L-CU7PD4

          Right Irish…. Irish????

        • Almost as long as our D’s lowlights.
          Watching that, I was a little surprised that even though we run a WCO, bombs away! Maybe it’s because of Cutler. at 9:00 is classic Cutler. Dude’s wwwiide open in the flats, we’re all screaming at our TV for him to dump it off, but Cutty Badger don’t care.
          Forte also looked much faster last yr for whatever reason. And he has great vision and balance.
          Earl had some great catches last year too.
          The Alshon sweep/reverse seems like it shouldn’t work, but every once in a while it does, just enough to keep Ds honest. Usually coaches use speedy receivers to run those.

      • SC Dave

        He sings as badly as Bob Dylan.

        • MB30SD

          I can stomach dylan for a while because his lyrics are amazing and I actually like some of his songs. Neil not so much.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!
          • SC Dave

            Bob dylan is an outstanding song writer. He just cant sing, allthough at times his voice definitely” fits” the song

          • Cormonster

            I like a lot of Dylan songs, but wow was he bad live opening for the Dead. Very disappointed. Could barely understand a single word or lyric the entire show.

          • CanadaBear

            My sister loves Dylan. She’s probably seen him a dozen times. She told me at least half of those shows were terrible but it’s worth it because of the good ones. I’m not so forgiving. I’ll give anyone a mulligan but if they suck twice, I’m done.

            I used to love Junior Wells when I was young. I saw him with Buddy and Phil Guy at Biddy Mulligan’s in the late 70’s. Buddy was hammered but could still perform. Junior was so drunk he ruined the show. Saw him again in the early 80’s and he was shit faced again. Being an organizer for the Mississippi Valley Blues Festival I advised against booking him. I was out voted and they booked him. I pleaded with them to make him play early so he might not be so drunk. He came on at 5:30 and was great (so I’m told. I was at the tent stage watching Magic Slim and the Teardrops). Apparently he was furious about having to go on so early in the day.

          • Cormonster

            I agree 100%. I had a chance to see Dylan 2-3 years ago 10 blocks from my house and I passed. Good seats really cheap through a friend who works at the venue but I passed. I’ve heard the same story as your sisters about Dylan from several friends. To me that’s just a waste of time.

            The music business is a lot like the restaurant business. It’s tough. If you get two bad “meals” in a row you’ll probably stop going. Dylan was soo bad the first time I never had any desire to see him again. Kind of like finding a pubic hair in your pancakes.

            Equally as bad and disappointing as Dylan had to be Aerosmith in the 80’s at Alpine Valley. I used to love their early shit like Toys in the Attic. They maybe played 1.5 hours of complete garbage. I was willing to give them a second chance until they came out with one of the most annoying albums ever. Now I won’t listen to any of their music.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            I wouldn’t piss on Dylan if he was on fire. False prophet. He was writing songs about stuff he’d never experienced. Don’t buy it.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Nobody sings as badly as Bob Dylan, except Lou Reed when alive.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      My favorite neil clip – so high he can’t find the right harp …

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh44QPT1mPE

  • Shady

    Toewser is so fucking money.

    #HAWKCE

  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!
  • MB30SD

    Hey yonny, this is about 1.5 hrs north of me. That mexican carbomb sounds right up your alley maings

    http://money.cnn.com/2014/04/25/news/companies/taco-bell-restaurant/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      US Taco Company is a gay name. It should be called “Eat Tacos” like on the sign.
      I’m going to “Eat Tacos”.
      Also, i’m not a sweet guy, i’m a savory. That thing sounds like I would take a sip and then let my kids demolish it. I’ll handle the tacos.

      • Shady
      • MB30SD

        deal… but I don’t think we let your kids have a milkshake made with guinness and whiskey. But you’re irish, so maybe you’re just starting ’em young?

        It’s LA maings, the name has to be precocious and overtly hipster. I think it’s a city ordinance. I also believe that you’re required to wear thick black rimmed glasses (no prescription necessary), an old timey mustache, and black skinny jeans with an open plaid shortsleeve button up shirt over a tight black chest pocket shirt… oh, and white chucks.

        Ev, you can just come as you are.

  • MB30SD

    boys…. let’s drink to next season (and the draft… JEFF!)

    http://www.mandatory.com/2014/04/24/the-funniest-gifs-of-the-week/23

  • Trac

    Hey MB, did you check out the bucs schedule yet? Lovie’s gonna get coach of the year of he takes the bucs to the playoffs.

    2 lbs plus a flake, aero, and a Turkish Delight?

  • Trac

    I’ve gotta admit that before FA I had the Bears pegged for 7-9 overachievers. No way did I think Emery was so hungry for a “win now” team. I kinda figured he’d be more conservative and use this year for rebuild “old school” style. I guess the stain of Angelee still lingered in my mind. Glad I “seem” to have been wrong.

  • MB30SD

    gosh darn I love the food in france. Gotta get back soon

    http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2014/04/23/in-lyon-a-hearty-dose-of-tradition/?hpt=hp_c4

    • Trac

      As long as I live down south I’ll never taste heaven again.

      • MB30SD

        they have an airport where you are…. no?

        • Trac

          Translation, the food sucks down here.

          • MB30SD

            I got it. My thought was… VACATION TIME!

            Has the boy been to europe yet?

          • Cormonster

            They don’t have Waffle Houses down there? What’s the burger joint I seen everywhere in Texas?

          • Trac

            Fried, fried or fried. That’s it. Burgers? Meh.

          • Cormonster

            Here’s one of my favorite songs done acoustically. Love the lyrics.

            http://www.last.fm/music/Warren+Haynes/_/Soulshine

            Oh, and the food does suck down south in general.

          • MB30SD

            what is fried chicken steak? Is it chicken…. or steak? I don’t understand.

          • MB30SD
          • Trac

            Looks like death, does it nawt?

          • MB30SD

            Heart attack on a plate baby.

            My parents lived in Houston for 8 years. Yeaaauuuuhhhhgggg.

  • Trac

    Ah……Steak Tartar at La Ti Ti de Pari. Is that place still around?

    • Trac

      Yup, it’s closed. ’twas in Arlington Heights.

  • gpldan

    Here’s a typical comment on the MSNBC site about Kluwe:

    Just go away Kluwe!!! So tired of one side telling another side you need to believe in their cause, for if you don’t you are intolerant. Ya got cut because you weren’t any good, and couldn’t figure out how to kick away from Hester.

    And now, Jeff, telling Kluwe to stuff it for his outspoken views on homophobia in the workplace within the NFL. But, does he have a case? Let’s look at the stats:

    Kluwe had the best net average of his career last year, but he still ranked 18th in the league among active punters, he was 24th in yards per punt and he put only 18 of his 72 punts last season inside the 20 yard line, that is statistically anomalous and cannot be chalked up to simply lots of Vikings punts from their own territory; the sample rate is too high.

    So we have this:
    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KluwCh20.htm

    So he was trending as the best Vikings punter ever but his performance seemed to trend to just being a boomer and not a position kicker. At 45, he would have been considered and can probably reasonably be considered to be getting blackballed by the league: any other punter with those stats would have at least gotten a tryout in camp this year.

    So I would say yes, he has a case.

    • A7Xthebest

      Tbh I think people are sick of hearing from athletes on political/social issues. Especially when you aren’t a team star or particularly great why would anyone be interested on hearing yourl constant commentary?

    • tobijohn

      He might have a case but I don’t think he’ll win it. While certain stats might have approached his career average, he was a bit below middling compared the NFL averages. Also, the difference in salary between him and his replacement was almost $1M per. I respect him for walking the walk but unless you’re an untouchable superstar, you have to pick your battles carefully. It’s not right or fair but unfortunately, in a world run by flawed humans, that’s the way it is a lot of the time…

  • NewBearInTown

    Another argument in favor of draft over schedule.
    Who can rank the top 5 Bears best/worst schedules of the modern era? Nobody? Nobody?
    How about the top 5 drafts?

    • MB30SD

      I’ve been told that trying to reason with Jeff is a lost cause NB. Sad.

      • Trac

        He’s more Angelee-esk, you’re more Emery-esk so yeah, one cannot go where the other is. He he. If you think about it, Angelee didn’t think the draft was important either. Hee hee.

        • MB30SD

          I really think I would slap that man in his dumbass grin if I ever saw him in real life.

          I see his articles posted on ‘what it’s like in the draft room’ and it literally makes me angry. Like, how the fuck would you know you god damn buffoon. SMMFC.

          • Trac

            Hahaha

    • Johnathan Wood

      Jeff’s argument is not that the draft is unimportant.

      It’s that post-draft evaluation is more important than endless pre-draft speculation. He’s got a point there; some people spend way too much time on mock drafts and such.

      But it is worthwhile IMO to learn as much as possible about as many prospects as possible.

      • Trac

        Shhhh. We’re just bustin his gonads until the draft. I think Jeff was hoping the excitement of the schedule release would divert our attention for a week or two. Lol.

      • MB30SD

        for me it’s not even about the actual logical arguments or whether mock drafts are useful, we all KNOW they aren’t.

        My point to his is… is doesn’t matter! It’s all fun, and the amount of fun content it could create for the site would not only be great for us, but could drive tons of traffic for him.

        I think it’s more of a time/effort thing (or lack thereof) question. It’s a no brainer, so it has to be that jeff just doesn’t have or want to spend the time… a la, finishing any contest.

        I get, and that’s a fine POV… but call it what it is at least. Saying it’s pointless and no one would be interested is just plain bullshit and he knows it.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          “….or whether mock drafts are useful, we all KNOW they aren’t.”

          Exactly. Football itself isn’t ‘useful’. Although I think Jeff is saying mock drafts are impossible to guess … which is different to useful. I wouldn’t say they’re not useful. The first round mocks give you an idea of who might be there in the second for you, after that …. not so much.

  • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Bears currently have more team chemistry than any time in my lifetime. .etc. They are a joy to root for/follow.

    Really Jefe? More than the team that won a superbowl? This team that has just come off the worst defensive season of all time …..?

    I’m curious to hear how that is.

    • Trac

      I would imagine he’s talking about Marshall and the boys holding their offseason workouts together. To me, great team chemistry translates into a lot of playoff runs and a Champeeingship or two or three. We shall see, won’t we?

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Offense-chemistry ? He does say ‘team’ ….

        • Trac

          He has to be, no way there can be team chemistry on D yet, we just signed 3 starters and will probably draft 2 more.

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      that team fucking hated each other. The coaches hated each other, etc. It was simply a combo of the most dominant D in history combined with a solid O line and HOF running back.

      • CanadaBear

        I’m still trying to figure out how two colossal assholes like Danimal and McMahon didn’t end up killing each other. I love both of them as football players and dislike every other thing about them. Life was a lot simpler when we didn’t really know anything about our sporting heroes.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        That’s a fair point. There were two sets of chemistry, and I suppose it’s really that way on all teams. O and D don’t mix.

        You left one guy out though.

        ” It was simply a combo of the most dominant D in history combined with a solid O line and HOF running back … and the greatest Bear QB of all time in Jim McMahon”.

        Won three quarters of the games he started with his run-every-down coach. That guy.

  • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt
    • MB30SD

      Cannot watch that guy. just flatline. He’s brutal.

      • Shady

        Although it would be funny if McCown flops as a starter with Lovie, while Glennon turned into a star with Trestman.

        • MB30SD

          yeah

          • Shady

            Quite.

          • MB30SD

            indeed

          • Shady

            Mmm, yes.

          • MB30SD

            Bloody good show old boy

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Loving it.

      • Johnathan Wood

        he had a QB rating of 83.9 as a rookie on a bad offense last year, which is right around league average. That doesn’t guarantee he’ll be a good QB, but gives you pretty good odds .(http://watercoolersportsnetwork.com/2012/05/18/evaluating-rookie-1st-round-quarterbacks-part-2-of-3/ )

        I’d be very happy with the Bears giving up a 5th rounder for Glennon. If I were a team like Arizona looking more urgently for a young QB, I’d give up a 2nd.

        • I liked him coming out of college too. The Bears interviewed Tahj Boyd too. I was really surprised by Boyd. He showed me much more than I expected. I expected him to be a one read, duck and dash QB, but Boyd showed he can throw from multiple platforms, accuracy, progressions, toughness and elusiveness.

          For a 5th I might actually prefer Boyd over The Stork, though I wouldn’t mind either.

          • MB30SD

            You know what they say about a man with small hands right……..

          • CanadaBear

            On the contrary I’ve got big hands, big feet, big ears, big nose, Yeah, you’re right, I’m a clown!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • MB30SD

          What i don’t want it to turn into is the constant passing of the bucs shitty players to us, a la the jags with lovie.

          If we’re going to forge trade relationships with teams I want them to be in the sf/seattle/saints even mold.

          • Trac

            But you forget, Angelee got us Rusket to forge the Seattle alliance and didnt we end up getting some bum that was on the OL?

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          I think he’ll be good.

          • Cormonster

            I watched the movie Contact tonight for the first time. Very interesting. Have you heard of or read the book Calculating God?

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            I liked Contact.

            Haven’t read it, no. If it’s Theistic or Philosophical, then I stopped reading that stuff in my twenties, and there aren’t many good books on aliens … one might argue there’s only one.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          He’s solid when he can stand in there. He might be a revelation behind the Bears line with De La Puente at Center and weapons out wide.

    • “How excited are you to get back into this?”
      Lovie, “vuuury excited.” Didn’t even crack a smile nor did his eyes light up, nor his voice alter. If you would have asked him his bowling score, he would have responded in the same manner.

      • Johnathan Wood
        • ha! I’m downloading that.
          I don’t know how players can get fired up by a coach like that. I mean, maybe he relies on the whole father figure angle to make them perform, but I think a team needs at least ONE leader with a fiery personality to rally the troops.

          • MB30SD

            Brutal.

  • Trac

    The Liverpool/Chelsea game is today. Should be a great match.

  • 505 Bears

    Side note…Boozer FUCKING SUCKS!! Why does Thibs keep him in?!

  • Emery’s double dipping, maybe at S. This is a 6/7th prospect. Can’t just talk about Dix all day (NTTAWWT)

    http://www.csnchicago.com/bears/nfl-draft-profile-alabama-ss-vinnie-sunseri

    • MB30SD

      Steltze 2.0

    • Johnathan Wood

      I’d much rather go Marquestion Huff in round 4. Or Isaiah Lewis from Michigan State round 5/6.

      • MB30SD

        Can you please repeat the marquestion

    • Johnathan Wood

      The Bears seem to have some interest in Quarles, so I could definitely see him being the pick if they still need a 3T in round 3. I also love Caraun Reid from Princeton. Small school guy, but he is a beast on tape and looked good at Senior Bowl against NFL-caliber guys too.

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