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Preemptive Requiem for the Marc Trestman Era

| December 26th, 2014

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If Marc Trestman is not fired as head coach of the Chicago Bears before the rye toast of Chicagoland browns Monday morning, the panic will be palpable.

FATHER: He can’t possibly be back, can he?

SON: No. It’s not possible.

FATHER: Why haven’t they fired him yet?

SON: They will…(wipes sweat from his brow)…they have to…

FATHER: You want butter?

SON: Jam.

Trestman’s first year as Bears head coach was defined by an explosiveness on offense never before seen from the city of Chicago’s football team. While balancing the worst defense in the history of the organization the Bears offense managed to guide the club to a .500 record, giving them an opportunity to win a division title on the final week of the season. (A game they lost purely by mental breakdowns on the defensive side of the ball.) It seemed in Marc Trestman the Bears had found their guy.

Here were the four reasons I liked the hiring of Marc Trestman in January of 2013:

It is the first significant movement by the Chicago Bears organization towards becoming a modern NFL franchise. This is an offense/passing league, a quarterback league and very few head coaching candidates have the quarterback coaching credentials of Trestman.

Trestman has a short but important history with Jay Cutler. When they step into their first meeting room (in the next month or so) Trestman will not only be working with thirty year-old Cutty but also working with the memory of a strong-armed kid out of Vanderbilt.

Yes it took place in Canada but Marc Trestman has led AN ENTIRE football team for five years and won two championships. Will that success translate immediately? Who knows. But it means Trestman has experience overseeing the entirety of a roster and managing a full coaching staff. If you discount that fact you fail to acknowledge one of the most difficult transitions from coordinator to head coach.

It is NOT the safe choice. It is NOT the easy choice. And being that Phil Emery had Trestman at Halas Hall for much of Sunday and Monday without anyone – Dickerson, Zaidman, Jensen, Biggs – knowing means how he’s perceived in the local media is not near the top of his Things I’d Like to Achieve list.

The offense scored with the best units in the sport. The quarterback looked confident and comfortable. And while the defense struggled mightily Trestman seemed to have command over the entirety of the locker room. The unsafe choice, it seemed, was the right choice for the Chicago Bears.

Then 2014…

willard

…the saddest, most embarrassing season of the Super Bowl era for the Chicago Bears.

The success/progress of 2013 has been wiped away by the disaster of 2014. The high-powered scoring offense looked a shell of itself, refusing to utilize its best player effectively (Matt Forte) whilst abandoning the down-field, big play ability that seemed to define it a year earlier. The quarterback’s square peg arm suddenly seemed forced into a round hole system, leading to comfort & confidence grabbing the first shuttle back to the Soldier Field parking lot. The defense improved in areas but was still incapable of stopping any halfway decent quarterback.

But on-field failures, when it comes to scheme and execution, can almost be forgiven in the second year of a coaching tenure.

What can not be forgiven is the Bears general lack of competitiveness throughout the season, leading to their being down double-digits a ridiculous eleven times (so far). Dolphins fans want Joe Philbin out in Miami. He mentally manhandled Trestman. The Saints? Week 14, lost at home to Carolina, 41-10. Week 16, lost at home to Atlanta, 30-14. Week 15? On the road at Chicago? 31-15 Saints.

What can not be forgiven is the complete lack of accountability at any position on the field throughout this season, especially on the defensive side of the ball. Firing Mel Tucker may not have improved the defense but it would have sent a message to defenders, would it not? Cutting snaps for veterans like Lance Briggs, Jared Allen or Tim Jennings might have meant nothing in terms of outcomes but maybe, just maybe, infusing youth into the lineup might have provided an emotional spark? Doing nothing was not the answer.

What can not be forgiven is the coach’s disgraceful lack of action after his number one lieutenant’s admittance of locker room treason. Hell, Bill Cowher was infuriated even discussing the topic on CBS’ pregame show the following Sunday. These things don’t go unpunished under good head coaches. They don’t happen under great head coaches.

What can not be forgiven is Trestman’s desire to publicly humiliate his quarterback in an attempt to exclusively scapegoat the signal-caller for his own offensive failings. Everything released to the media since the Kromer leak has been an attempt by the Bears offensive coaching staff to preserve their reputations by laying blame for the offense at the feet of Cutler and Cutler alone. Even the fans who despise Cutler don’t buy it.

As the pressure mounted and losses piles up, Trestman’s performances in the front of the media were a nightmare. Suddenly he was no longer just an incompetent coach. Now he had become an unlikable, incompetent coach and jumped Dave Wannstedt in the polls.

Requiems are acts of remembrance. How will Marc Trestman be remembered in Bears history? Barely. He will be a trivia answer.

FATHER: Who was the coach between Lovie Smith and X…?

SON: I think it was the guy they got from Canada with the weird hair.

FATHER: Ohhhh, yea. Wow. Those were not good years.

SON: No they were not.

FATHER: Were newspapers still a thing then?

SON: Yeah, I think so.

2014 was supposed to be a season of progress – the escalation of a team from promising to potential champion. Instead Trestman’s lack of leadership and institutional control deescalated the promising to putrid, pathetic and any other fitting word beginning with “p” you’d like to include.

Now there is only the wreckage of what could have been a great ride. The clean-up starts Monday.

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  • Viva

    Good morning. Dave Toub for HC, please.

    • DaBearsBlog

      I don’t see why Toub wouldn’t be a consideration. I’d prefer him to any of the “hot coordinators” – including Bowles.

      Then again we don’t know who’ll be making the hire.

      • Scharfinator

        I don’t see him being on the radar.

        That being said, I’d love this pipe dream to become a reality.

        • DaBearsBlog

          Well he has no chance if Emery makes the hire.

      • NewBearInTown

        Toub and Ray Horton are both great coordinators who’ve never gotten a shot as a HC. But they’re both on teams that are only so so this year. That’s why there’s no media attention putting him “on the radar.”

        I agree with Jeff, no chance if Emery is here. But it would make a lot of players happy to see a Lovie era guy back – except I don’t think any of those players will still be around to care.

  • Doc Hamstring

    What I don’t get is how was Trestman so successful in Canada, and how he so completely lost control of the Bears this year. The two things don’t square.

    Oh well.

    Next man up.

    • Scharfinator

      Canadians are too polite? Trestman had better leaders in his CFL locker room? Trestman “made it” and lost his spark

      • SC Dave

        Um, maybe his QB had leadership traits? Maybe he didn’t have an aging butt-hurt, BBQ distracted LB as the “leader” of his defense?

        • Scharfinator

          Personnel problems happen in every locker room. The Seahawks cut Harvin in the middle of the season. Now they’ve rebounded as super bowl favorites.

    • johnnywad

      Perhaps his offense works better on the wider fields of the CFL. Or more likely, the competition is just less sophistocated

      • BerwynBomber

        That would be my guess — the opposing coaching is significantly better in the NFL. For all I know you could throw Gym Shorts up there for a few years and he would win a Grey Cup or two.

        Btw, I still think Trestman is salvageable as a potential NFL OC but he may have to sit a year to let the stink wear off.

    • CanadaBear

      He had the best QB in the league. By a lot. Winning solves almost everything.

      • SC Dave

        Just like he had in Oakland.

    • JP

      Those guys in Canada are probably so happy to have a football career still that they’ll follow a coach to the grave. The NFL guys, especially the established ones, probably know BS when they see it and won’t give 100% for someone they don’t respect.

  • Doc Hamstring

    Hypothetical. IF Carolina loses this weekend, maybe Rivera gets fired there.

    Would he be welcomed back to Chicago?

    I, for one, would like to see him back as HC. But it all depends on the OC, really.

    • DaBearsBlog

      Rivera is not getting fired.

  • Shady

    I couldn’t help it. I read “jam” and immediately thought of this scene:

    (Sorry about the ad)

    “There’s only ONE man who would DARE give me the raspberry… LONESTAR!”

    Anyway, yeah. Dave Toub for HC.

  • GPLDAN

  • GPLDAN

    In the pre-season game against the Seahawks, the signs were all there for a season like this. Everybody was like “oh we have a few things to correct, it’s pre-season – don’t pay any attention this shit means nothing.” (I’m looking at Jeff here)

    They did not field a competitive team in Seattle that day. It looked like the varsity kicking the JV’s ass. The platitudes, the “we’ve had a good camp” shit – all of it was there. But the team looked… what is really the right word for how they looked in Seattle… they looked primitive. It looked like a very basic offense that was already figured out and an OL that was back to not being able to read the blitz.

    And in the unforgivable lot, I place all the bullshit around special teams and not finding the bottom of the roster until about week 5. That was insane.

    • DaBearsBlog

      Week 5? Have they found the bottom of the roster yet? It still changes weekly.

    • willbest

      I am quite frankly amazed that ST really did improve from week 1 to week 17 given how much churn its faced. As far as I can tell Joe D is the best coach on the staff.

      • BillW

        Sad but true

    • huntinbare

      I remember the feeling that game prodoced; and the take away from that was the immediate mental scapegoat… DENIAL…Inside there was an intuitive force bearing down hard that I suppressed until after game one….then that “knowing” from the Seattle game started to heunt my weak reasoning. We were doomed earky in that contest and have no excuses; we were not sufficiently prepared for what the NFL was going to throw at us.

  • TheBigCheesy

    so much for the “innocent climb” of 2014

    • Shady

      Bwahahahaha.. Well played troll, well played.

  • GPLDAN

    I have never looked forward to a Black Monday before. But now I do.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Racist punk.

  • GPLDAN

    The USS Ponce has equipped itself with a real, working laser cannon, to shoot down UAVs that approach the fleet. If only we could use it on Cheesy, when he approaches the blog.

    http://www.janes.com/article/46126/laser-weapon-breaks-cover-on-uss-ponce

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      does it kill regular black folks ???

  • George Hotchkiss

    I have been a Bears fan for over a half century. When I try to evaluate how the club is doing, I take a step back and don’t look at what anybody says, I look at the actual results of behaviors and actions. When Emery took over, the club was a defensive and special teams force with a little below average offense. Now, at this point, you can make an argument that the Bears are the worst team in the NFL. I see no reason why Emery, Trestman or any of their staff should stay. I think they are all good men, I just think they were not the ones to carry on the Bears tradition. I expect the usual comments, Cutler should go, the Bears haven’t won anything in 30 years etc… As far as Cutler is concerned, a new GM and coach should make the decision on his future. I believe the Bears have destroyed him as a player and as a trade commodity. their only hope is to try to get soneone else to pay a few bucks of his salary. The Bears have been to a Super Bowl and a bunch of NFC championship games since 1985, as well as winning their division many times. Not the top end performance we would like, but solid crditable and they made the NFL better. Lovie had his shortcomings, (offense and playcalling come to mind) but, he ran the Bears in a manner that this long time fan enjoyed, tough, physical, and dangerous were all words that you could use when describing the Bears. Now the words I can use the Bears are not even worth writing. Happy holidays.

    • Trac

      Wah wah wah. Poor Jay, sniff sniff. Enough already guys.

      • CanadaBear

        That’s what you took from that, Trac? 2 sentences in the entire paragraph address Cutler.

        • Trac

          Not trying to be a dick but I’m done with the Jay, Emery, Trestman experiments.

          • CanadaBear

            Me too. I just thought there was a lot of good stuff in that post.

      • DaBearsBlog

        Having a QB in the top half of the sport is far better than not. Amazing how everyone has simply forgotten two decades.

      • George Hotchkiss

        Trac, ( Whatever that means) you miss my point entirely. My post was not to defend Cutler but to emphasise that the one player many Bears fans fixate on, is only a part of a much bigger problem. Last week Claussen played about as good a game as we could expect, he probably has a chance to be a back-up QB in the league for a while. Here is the deal, the defense is the worst in the NFL, and the worst in Bears history. Special teams are probably the worst in the NFL, and have not been productive. the offense has decended into an abyss, Last week with Claussen, the Bears amassed 245 yards from scrimmage. The team is in shambles, take Cutler out of the mix and the team is still in shambles.The leadership has destroyed a noble franchise. If the new coach and GM want to get rid of Cutler, fine. If they think he is a distraction, and no other team wants him, cut your losses and let him go. But, fixating on him doesn’t solve the problem. I am looking to the future, the new regime should reflect Bears traditions and rebuild the team to go out and knock peoples blocks off. We need a coach with a Ditka like obsession for toughness, and a GM who can actually put together a real defense. Last year in the biggest game of the year, against the Packers, winner takes all. with the division was on the line. There was a loose ball laying on the ground, a Packer eventually picked it up because the whistle had never blown. That is when I knew there was something very wrong. No Bears team worth a shit, would leave a loose ball uncovered. Bears football is about never giving an inch, and if they do give an inch somebody on the other team pays a dear price for it. What we have seen for the last two years, was not Bears football. So, the new folks who come in need to understand the Bears history and traditions. Last week when Ego Ferguson got abused by the low life Lions center, Raiola, there should have been an immediate price to pay,a real Bears defense would have administered justice, right there on the field, penalties be damned. The Bears are broken, they need to be fixed from the ground up. If that is without Cutler fine. But they need to be fixed.

        • Trac

          Fair enough and I’m with you 100% there. I’m just punchy when it comes to Cutler because the whole franchise QB has been a fiasco from day 1. This team needs a huge direction change, I think we can all agree about that.

    • Harold Bryant

      From one half century fan to another I like what you had to say. You sound like the voice of reason which is so rare these days. the team is so bad its bring out the most emotional comments in fans. This season has been so bad I miss Abe Gibron singing Jeremiah was Bull Frog. Bring back Jim Dooley. Now you know tht this is bad.

  • Scott W.

    To Jeff’s comment below, that Toub won’t be hired if Emery is doing the hiring…
    If he’s pushed aside by a McCaskey to get the new coach, he’s done, and toothless. He’ll be a GM with a lot less discretion.
    That would be huge.

  • Trac

    2014 has been the year that the diving board broke when the fat guy tried jumping into the pool. That’s how ugly this season has been.

    Is it right to bitch after a coach decided he wanted to go all in with his system that failed miserably. If you think about it, last year was a transition year and nobody realized how bad the D actually was. I believe this year’s offensive scheme was Trestmans attempt to compensate for our defensive inadequacies.

    Please don’t cry me a river about Cutler being thrown to the wolves anymore, it’s silly. He leads the league in turnovers, he deserved to be called out. He’s been like the gifted employee that’s gets away with not showing up to work on time that up till now, has been handled with kid gloves. I’m ready for a change, Chicago is ready for a change.

    • BerwynBomber

      Agreed. Blogfather’s continued outrage over the Cutler “scapegoating” has now become more extreme than the scapegoating itself, which btw I’m not sure was Trestman’s motive but just an all too easy conclusion to be drawn from it.

      That said, I have no idea why they are turning to Cutler for this last game and not Fales. If ever a regular season game screamed for a third-string backup start this is it.

      • DaBearsBlog

        Three players on the roster agree with my point. So I’ll go with them.

        • SC Dave

          Three of 53. And I’ll even give you Cutler, so 4 of 53.

          Impressive leadership, that.

    • Scott W.

      I would put Cutler at 16th out of 32 starting QB’S in the NFL.
      Not suggesting we can’t get a better one, just at a complete loss as to who that might be.
      My guess is he’s here another year, under yet another coach and system.
      But I hear you.

      • SC Dave

        And yet another year of new excuses for having to work in a new system.

    • BearDown100393

      dans dans
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      • Barb UMihai Mar

        the fuck ?

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      how was this years O schemes supposed to help the Defense? you only need to look as far as Dallas on how to utilize an O to protect deficiencies on D.

      • Trac

        I have absolutely no clue huge P. That’s why this thing is so agonizing. Hahaha. If I knew what’s been going on, at least I could analyze it. It’s been a mystery to me all year long.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          ok – glad i wasn’t the only one that has no clue.

  • CanadaBear

    Gotta disagree with some of this stuff Jeff. You underestimate how much people detest Cutler and are willing to blame almost everything on him. He deserves a lot of it. Also, cutting snaps for Briggs, Allen and Jennings? WTF? Did we not see enough of Jones, Bostic, CD, Bass, Washington, Hurst and Louis-Jean? We saw too much of almost all of them. I’m pretty sure another hundred or so, extra snaps for those guys would have shown you the same thing. Most of them suck or at the most, are avg at best.

    • BerwynBomber

      Hmmmm … I don’t think people detest Cutty as much as you think CB. Blogfather’s poll from a few days ago certainly would not bear that out. My own take is that Cutler represents the biggest act of public self-denial regarding a Chicago athlete ever. And to a large degree, it continues. In fact, the outrage over the benching is further evidence of it.

      But yes, I agree with you about the Briggs, Allen, Jennings stuff. Blogfather misses the point that because of injuries/attrition we get to see the “Jimmy Clausens” of the D unit w/out any benchings. And on the O side, who else warranted benching beside JC? the O-line was too banged up to even consider such a luxury — and wasn’t Mills benched anyway? — and among the skilled positions the only one you could make the case for would be BM but I assumed he was playing hurt most of the season and only a moron would sit him for Wilson or Holmes.

      • GPLDAN

        I was extremely surprised to see keeping Cutler was leading in the poll.

        • BerwynBomber

          Not me. Even on here you see a silent majority regarding Cutler support, not counting Waffle of course. Or Blogfather.

          • CanadaBear

            Just because we aren’t bitching like a bunch of banshees doesn’t mean we’re fans of Cutler.

          • BerwynBomber

            Wasn’t considering you among the silent majority.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            i think most of us have accepted what he is, so no need to complain about him. Average or a little better, but also better than what is available on the market.

          • BerwynBomber

            Agreed but the contract is a killer, though Allen’s is a minor disaster too.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            contract does not bother me much, the contract is actually not far off from the Franchise Tag – atleast in regards to the salary cap, and buys time to find a replacement instead of going with someone of Ryan Fitzpatricks talent like Houston had to do.

          • BerwynBomber

            It is a financial straightjacket if you wish to invest elsewhere. Fitzpatrick, I assume, is dirt cheap and thus fair market value. The whole issue with Cutty is ROI and I’d argue the contract delays the future rather than assists it.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            i got to say having the additional $10-15 mill in dead money going into the season is more of the issue. Bad contracts that are still counting against the Cap like Peppers -$9mill – Bush 2 mill hell Gabe Carimi is still counting almost 1 mill against our cap this year. Dead money needs to be handle better. Luckily going into next year dead money is only at 100K so far. so we have an extra 10-15 mill going into this next year than we did this year.

        • Scott W.

          He isn’t as elite as we hoped, and is just average overall. But the pickins, as they say, are slim.
          How many QB’s have we all seen in the draft projected to be great, only to bomb later?
          Anyone see an Andrew Luck waiting for us in April when we’re on the clock?
          He’s as good as we can do, is in my opinion what the poll revealed.

        • As Waffle accurately observed many times over, most bear fans are idiots

        • SC Dave

          The problem is not his play, at least some times. The problem is his lack of leadership, ALL THE TIME.

  • CanadaBear
    • where did Nessman come from? i know lots of folks around here use it, but I want to start using The Tresticle.

    • BillW

      Absolutely fantastic article. Obviously moon had been compiling this for a while. Hits literally every point made this year and last. Take the time to read it everyone. Thanks for posting Canada

      • CanadaBear

        I thought so, too. Moon is a bit odd but there’s no window dressing or drama in his work. Compared to a bunch of them at the Trib and Sun-Times, it’s really refreshing.

    • BillW

      I never realized cfl has only 8 teams. No dilution of talent means the teams that are strong can stay strong easier. Like the celtics back in the day and the Packers of the sixties.

      • CanadaBear

        There are 9 teams now. They just added the Ottawa Red Blacks this year. I have no idea about the name!! The old Bear, Henry Burris was their QB this year. There’s a bunch of rules about the rosters. They have to be mostly Canadian players and the salcap is so small people move around like gypsies. The games are fun in person. A Canadian football crowd is just as drunk and rowdy as a US crowd. Just fewer weapons. With the small salcap ticket prices are reasonable ($20 for OK seats). The stadiums are much smaller so sight lines are much better. I rarely watch it on TV but going to games was a blast.

        • BearDown100393

          The Shreveport Pirates were just a terrible idea.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I liked it better when there was the Roughriders AND the Rough Riders .

          • CanadaBear

            Down to just Sask these days! Rider Pride!

  • BerwynBomber

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog “What if Mike Shanahan tells Phil Emery (1) he wants Jay Cutler as QB & (2) he’s bringing @sonofbum w/him as defensive coordinator?”

    A Shanny/Wade hiring would be fine/solid. Shanny is a proven SB-winning coach who has had success a couple different places and he likes Cutty and WP always seemed a top-notch DC.

    • CanadaBear

      I’m OK with this scenario as long as Emery is launched and Teddy goes over to the biz side only.

      • BerwynBomber

        Keeping Cutty delays the ultimate rebuild IMO, but if the Bears are set on keeping him then Shanny/Wade might maximize Jay and the current roster (pending some additions and subtractions) for the next two years. And frankly even if Cutty were jettisoned, Shanny and WP are proven guys who should steer the franchise clear of the clown show that this year became.

        Harbaugh would, of course, be the ideal and the McCaskeys could surprise and fork over the bucks to get him. The issue might be more along the lines if Harbaugh sees this as an optimal gig given the roster and cap.

        • DaBearsBlog

          I don’t believe you rebuild by trading/cutting Cutler. What are you getting with the fourth round pick? And whoever you go with at QB, chances are, won’t be the guy. How many teams find the guy on first shot? 1 out of 10?

          • BillW

            Cutler is a distraction. No matter what his talent (mediocre in most opinions it seems) the conversation and decisions always seem to revolve around him. Time to simply move on. Next year or two for a solid rebuilding plan. I’d much rather that than these hit or miss (usually miss) one year attempts at him finally reaching his potential.

          • BerwynBomber

            “I don’t believe you rebuild by trading/cutting Cutler. What are you getting with the fourth round pick?”

            You are getting more cap space by unloading Cutler. Who knows what you get with a fourth round pick. If you think Cutler is the guy, fine. Keep him. If you don’t, what is to be gained by the delay?

          • BillW

            Cap space buys one or maybe two players. So getting rid of one mediocre player gives you potential for one or more players younger and better. Add to that the intangible of saying “no more” it’s worth it.

            And to balance this out that same thinking should be applied to several other players most likely. He just happens to be the most expensive

            Enough is enough for God’s sake. He’s at best a 16th ranked qb taking up the cap space of three solid players

          • BerwynBomber

            Exactly in regard to your last two sentences.

            If someone seriously thinks Cutty can lead the Bears to an SB (and I would not laugh if they did), then fine; keeping him not only makes sense but is imperative. But if one doesn’t think that then what is to be gained? Stave off QB wilderness for two years? Why? Better to get the lean stuff over sooner than later. Cut bait and, as you say, buy two or three D starters with the extra bucks.

            Anyway, I assume he returns. And I also assume the Bears will have a better HC next year. No reason why the team can’t be competitive but the NFC North does seem like an improving division. No more Shorts to count on in Mowtown. Zimmer seems to have a plan in Minny.

          • BillW

            We now have two teams to pass and no team that we are clearly better than. It will take a lot more than an expensive mediocre qb to close the gap

          • BillW

            Of course the qb next year won’t be the guy. But Cutler isn’t the guy either way. Jeff, we’re not going to the Super Bowl next year. We’re rebuilding. The team will likely improve and the conversation will be that we need a qb

            The conversation WON’T be that we let that qb get away.

            Sorry Jeff. I wanted to believe it would work. . But next year is his TENTH season. Time to give up the fantasy

          • willbest

            Cutler is worth at an absolute minimum two 3rd rounders, and is probably worth two 2nd rounders.
            1) There are a lot of QB thirsty football teams
            2) See Alex Smith (Cutler’s 2-year guarantee is as much as Smith got from KC) and KC gave up two 2nd rounders for him

          • BillW

            I think when the dust settles and the firings are done and the hirings are made several teams will convince themselves they just need a decent qb to put them over the top. . I’d be shocked if the Bears didn’t get a third round choice and significant cap relief for him. The Bears hold all the cards since they will not be desperate

          • SC Dave

            Yeah, right. You can all me on this later, but there is NO FUCKING WAY we get two seconds for Cutler.

          • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

            it’s not worth it Jeff. I’ve been labeled a Cutler fanboy for simply pointing out that we have a quarterback that can compete well in the NFL and not even every NFL team can even say that. To then go and drop him when there are so many other dumpster fires, some expected and some completely unexpected, on this team is completely crazy…..all to save some tiny sliver of the future salary cap to somehow bring in free agents to fill the gaps due to the complete busting of other free agents and from 10yrs of shitty drafting.
            This offense, whether people believe it or not, is not the biggest concern nor should it be. They had a bad year and shit got crazy but it happens. That means the GM has to fucking HIT in the draft this year. Not 1 out of 7 picks but 3 out of 7 at least and at least another couple of free agents not named Danny fucking McCray.

          • If you can only get a 4rth for a ‘franchise’ qb getting all that $, maybe it’s time for a new qb

  • GPLDAN

    I kinda feel bad for Carson Palmer. If he had stayed healthy, this was shot at the prize. They have what it takes, they just need their QB back.

    • NewBearInTown

      Sad for the QB and the organization. They’re a fun team, I hope they get a chance again next year.

    • TheBigCheesy

      i feel bad for the cardinals who paid him a fortune 5 minutes before his knee exploded

  • huntinbare

    Four…4

    • BillW

      I’m counting down with ya. Please don’t disappoint us George!

      • huntinbare

        It is our “new year countdown”

  • huntinbare

    Another “P” word
    The Chicago stockyards were emblematic of beef and the proverbial great steak….
    This Bears team has damaged that tradition by serving the fans a big bowl of PABLUM…

    Pablum- a processed cereal for infants.
    Pablum also refers to bland, mushy,
    unappetizing, or infantile.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Jeez. The Chicago Stockyards were becoming extinct over 50 years ago.

      • huntinbare

        When the butcher got back from the big war; his first job, after he learned how to walk again,was chasing down beef in the stockyards; it is a filter I have deeply ingrained…
        Just a historical perspective…time does not really exist so nothing is ever really a current analogy anyway…I lose all the time trying to draw one…another foolish post…ooooppps

        • AlbertInTucson

          Thru most of the 1950s, my first home was on Halsted Street North of 47th. They hadn’t extended the Old Int’L Amphitheatre South past 43rd, yet so I could sit on the front steps of the two-flat and watch the switch engines shuttling cars around. I recall cowboys on horseback chasing the occassional stray cow down Halsted Street and a bull once chase my older brother down our alley on his way home from school. We watched President Eisenhower’s motorcade pass by on Halsted during a visit to Chicago in ’57 ot ’58. The Amphitheatre used to host The Circus, TheAudo Show and wrestling. The last thing I attended there was a Chicago Cougars WHA game. They played the Wnnipeg Jets, and Bobby Hull, to a 3-3 tie.

          • huntinbare

            Great stories; thanks for that.It reminded me of the times I would sit in my uncle Franks barber shop and listen to the locals talk about the early days…he kept a bottle and shot glasses on top of the t.v. I would say 70% came in for the libations only. I would get there early in the day for the clip and shave then spend the afternoon taking in the scene and getting some oral history. Someday when the topic is appropriate I got a great uncle Frank boxing story to share.

          • CanadaBear

            Next time we get a new thread, tell the story. That way I won’t miss it in an old, buried thread.

          • huntinbare

            I was gonna wait till something about boxing came up…I oromise I will get it to ya so you don’t miss it…

          • AlbertInTucson

            The Old Chicago Stadium hosted FIVE National Political Conventions:.

            The Dems in 1932, and BOTH parties in 1940 and 1944.

    • AlbertInTucson

      More Chicago Sports Historical, both way before my time…

      “The Brown Bomber”, Joe Louis, first attained the Heavyweight Boxing Championship in June, 1937, knocking out “Cinderella Man”, James J. Braddock, in the 8th round at COMISKEY PARK in front of 41,000+.

      10 years earlier, Jack Dempsey, attempting to regain the Heavyweight title, floored Champion, Gene Tunney, in the 7th round in front of just under 105,000 at SOLDIER FIELD.

      Dempsey failed to go to a neutral corner for several seconds, precipitating the famous “Long Count” that allowed Tunney precious extra seconds to regain his feet and last out the round. Tunney dominated the final 3 rounds, including an 8th round knockdown of “The Manassa Mauler” to retain his title.

      • huntinbare

        We had a trainer at my high school in La Grange who fought Joe Louis in 1940. He won the golden gloves in Chicago in 1933. He had a career mark of 38-6-2 with a 53% knickout ratio. He fought in the Marigold gardens, Cicero stadium, won an international meet at Soldier Field, and had bouts at the Chicago Stadium . Louis knocked him out in round 2. He dropped Mr. Paychek 3 times in the first round ; all 9 counts. His trainer had to revive him with a bucket of water in the Ring after the fight. The brutal bout is on youtube.
        When practice was through after you would shower sometimes when you walked to get a towel he would be standing there by the stack and he would say, “put your hands up.” Then he would say , “hit me”. He would then slap your face five times before you could raise your hands. If you refused it was always worse.

  • GPLDAN

    If the Vikes win on Sunday, they will probably drop about 8 to 9 spots on the draft board.

    I guess, if all else fales (what I did there, you saw it), we can comfort ourselves with that.

    • BerwynBomber

      I’m annoyed we are not seeing Fales. Stupid move by Trestman. Nothing is to be gained by starting Cutler unless they wish to salvage his confidence and end his year on a high note.

      Tanking sucks and no true fan of sports should be in favor of it as it fucks with the integrity of the game. But there is a point when putting the young subs/prospects out there is justified, even if they are probably not the best option in regard to winning the game. Plus, the notion that Barb’s Pats had interest in the kid raises my own slightly.

      • willbest

        I understand from a long term perspective, but the short term perspective is there too.

        1) Checkdown Cutler gives Forte his best shot at the record, and really all the players who are auditioning for jobs next year their best chance.

        2) There has to be some sort of arrangement where you just don’t tank in the NFL for draft picks, because every year 0-10 teams find a way to lose the #1 draft pick.

    • huntinbare

      +1

  • AlbertInTucson

    Bears just extended Garza for a year.

    • CanadaBear

      I was just going to post that. Also, it doesn’t look like Ziggy Ansah got fined for the helmet to helmet hit on Claussen. The only thing I can figure is he slid at the last second and they didn’t think it was intentional. I totally disagree but nobody from the NFL contacted me. Damn it!

      • AlbertInTucson

        Crap. A lot of them are unintentional and the fines still roll. And you arecorrect, THAT was no “accident”

        I expect the Lions to get they’re 24th (or is it 25th?) consecutive serving of disappointment in Lambeau Sunday afternoon.

        • CanadaBear

          I really hope so. They aren’t as dirty as they used to be (I think Suh cleaned up his act this year due to pending free agency) but they still pull this crap way too often. Ansah scored a direct hit on Claussen and knocked him out. I’m not sure what the NFL is looking at but that seemed pretty cut and dried to me.

          • AlbertInTucson

            “They (Lions) aren’t as dirty as they used to be.”

            Hate to have to live on the difference.

          • CanadaBear

            No kidding! Faint praise for sure.

  • huntinbare

    Going forward, if the coaching staff is let go, I believe the smartest approach would be to look toward the future when JC is no longer QB; and build with that in mind. I do not think crippling the present group by removing assets that have had a bad 2014 will serve us well. I hope the new HC will be someone who JC respects, Toub, Shanny, HarB for this reason. I believe the best way forward is to develop a winning attitude amongst the players…it does not have to produce wins on the field; but the new leader must get the athletes in his camp. We need comraderie and a willingness to lay all you have on the field for the good of your brother. From this; the natural leaders will emerge and the new draft picks will begin to walk into a building bursting with energy and unity.
    The three coaches I mentioned wil be the best chance of having a coach that JC can respect. As I look out at the QB landscape I am not excited by the possibilities. Just because we draft high and get an elite college QB in no way guarantees success. But , last year our offense was dusplaying potential; and I still think when healthy that this group is good for 4 td’s a game…they have too much talent..So the key is to get JC to eliminate his mistakes; and I believe that comes when he has his natural talents better utilized; limit his opportunities with a much more balanced attack; and develope a scheme that he is comfortable with. He has to have input into what plays should be developed; because he seems to check out when it isn’t his baby. If he is behind it a bit I believe his ownership of it will keep him centwred and focussed on being the best every play.

    • willbest

      But there aren’t a lot of players on the roster that you look at and go “These boys just need some polish, they are going to be amazing in 2 years”. On offense, you basically have Jeffery and Long. Everybody else will be past their prime or gone.

      On Defense, you will have Fuller, maybe one of the DT goes big time (Sutton/Ego), Paea if he resigns, and Christian Jones (who looks like he will be solid).

      The Bears don’t have a lot of young players showing flashes of brilliance. Really as long as they are reliant on FA veterans the way we have been for the last 5-6 years it has to be a win this year mentality.

      • huntinbare

        It isn’t going to be pretty; but the new staff hopefully will be looking forward to success 3-5 yrs. out. Continuity, attitude, unity, and team environment are a foundation for this rebuild. I have been on enough teams to know even lesser players in those enviroments can get more from their baseline ability. The average can turn in better results; so that will only enhance future picks. Getting through some of the current talent will be alot like wading through the big muddy…painfully producing no benefits. But we gotta start wading and press on. I am not going to believe going into next year that the D will hold up so I am going to be happy with just competing and keeping it close. No more hype; honestly fix this so in 3 years I can start thinking playoffs on a consistent basis. We ain’t much now but with the right decision makers we will be a proud franchise once again. In my humble estimation we lost our character and heart this year; and that is worse than any pile of stacked up loses.

      • SC Dave

        Agreed. The Bears already sold out for “now”, and spent too much money on the wrong QB.

  • AlbertInTucson

    I think the Blogfather nicely sums up the lack of action or accountabilty that infested this Bear team.

    My analogies would be :

    “Rome Burned, but Nero didn’t even bother to fiddle”

    or

    “Titanic sinks. Captain fails to lower the life boats OR even rearrange the deck chairs.”

  • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

    I know it’s not a popular opinion on this blog but I feel that the offense has the best chance for consistent success. There were some incredibly unfortunate injuries to Wilson in the preseason and then major injuries to Marshall and Jeffery and even Morgan that fucked up all continuity for the majority of the year. Injuries to Mills and Slauson hurt because Mills was average to begin with. Bushrod had to be really hurt this year because he looked like Mills instead of Jermon Bushrod.
    This upcoming draft and FA period is going to be very important. It should be D centric and if the Bears do want an OL they should pick up an Eben Britton type in free agency. We need dynamic guys on D because that can translate to more production on specials as well.
    Cutler and Emery are staying. Trestman is going along with Tucker and DeCamilis. This is not a complete rebuild whether you like it or not. It doesn’t need to be. Things need to change but it shouldn’t and won’t be a garage sale on fire.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I think the O-Line missed Slausen,a lot.

      • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

        that injury sucked. It also sucked that Delapuente got hurt as one of the main backups forcing Ola and Groy into action.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Slausen’s absence seemed to expose Bushrod.

      • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

        don’t be surprised at a move to RT for Long.

    • CanadaBear

      If Emery stays I wouldn’t bitch if he picked another OL early. Kyle has been his best pick. The OL was a mess all year, along with the WR’s. They need D on all three levels. It’s going to be interesting for sure. If Bushrod wasn’t hurt I could see them moving Long to LT and moving Bushrod to RT.

      • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

        I completely agree. If we get the 7th pick there should be a gamechanging player at any position we want to address. I’m definitely not opposed to a fucking HOSS offensive lineman with that first pick.

        • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

          move Slauson to Center if need be, make Mills try center, it can’t hurt, stick the new guy in at Guard, move long to Tackle…..who knows

          • CanadaBear

            Who knows if Garza will start next year. If we draft or sign a decent C, Garza should go to the bench. I’m not going to re-ignite the Cutler argument but the OL was a mess all year.

          • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

            it was a mess and it will be interesting to see what they do. Mills took a huge step back. I don’t think his foot ever healed. Bushrod played like shit, Garza looked terrible in the run game and Groy was just thrown into the fire. Ola looked good at times and downright terrible at others. De La Puente was also nursing an MCL for half of the year.

          • CanadaBear

            Couldn’t agree more. BDLP didn’t exactly look great either. Groy looked like he could be a good run blocker. He seemed to have a bit of an attitude, also. Always a good thing when it comes to OL.

          • SC Dave

            Yeah, and while we’re at it, let’s move CD to MLB.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Look what 3 or 4 drafts have done for the Dallas O-Line and, in turn, for Demarco Murray and Tony Romo.

        • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

          that line is scary. It took a commitment from them to build it and someone physically holding Jones back as he tried to pick Manziel but that was some great drafting.
          2007 Doug Free
          2011 Tyron Smith
          2013 Travis Frederick
          2014 Zack Martin
          I wanted to see who they picked in 2012 and remembered that it was Morris Claiborne who they thought would be the next Deion Sanders…. Unfortunately it led me to the 2012 Draft Wikipedia page where I was forced to see who was picked after Shea McClellin.

        • BlameAngelo

          And what will that get Dallas. A bunch of yards? So what? They’re not winning a superbowl with that defense. It’s a premier DL that needs building, not an OL. Can’t do both. Not with he clown university at Halas Hall.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            you are an idiot.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Nope. No OL early. There’s no value and to many needs on D.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Blogfather Twee: “One thing to remember: Garza is an iconic player for the Spanish-speaking NFL fan, specifically in Mexico. Was Madden Espanol cover boy. ”

    Well, THAT fact sure helps the offensie line, doesn’t it?

    • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

      I personally think it was an Emery move to keep a vet on the O-line for the new Offense that will be installed with the new OC this offseason. Player/Coach type move

      • AlbertInTucson

        Vet or no, the Bears have been getting bullied right thru Garza for too many seasons now.

        • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

          I agree. I was not enthusiastic at the extension.

    • Trac

      If Garza has been extended, doesn’t that mean Emery is a lock to stay on?

      • johnnywad

        First thing I thought too. That, or its a giant FU to the Bears.

        • Trac

          Yeah or Emery was testing the waters.

          • EnderWiggin

            That’s interesting Trac. So, Phil makes a questionable call just to see if he gets vetoed?

          • Trac

            It’s human nature.

          • Trac

            Or he’s been told HIS job is safe.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        no.

  • Viva

    The NFL rewards failure every year with the draft, which does undermine the integrity of the game. The solution is simple: put the draft on a 32 (# of teams) year cycle. Fair and simple. That way, we won’t have to wonder if anyone was sucking for Luck.

    • BerwynBomber

      That’s been the talk around the NBA too. It makes sense, though I would keep the current reverse order based on record from the second round and beyond.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Interesting idea. Not as outlandish as it my sound at first with Hard Cap in place.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Negative.

      • Viva

        Negative.

        • Viva

          Two negatives = a positive.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            One Luck comes every 10 years and nobody was sucking for him. The team that drafted him was plain awful after their superstar QB went down with career ending type of injury.

          • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

            Barb, actively playing Curtis Painter at QB with a team that had owned the AFC south for years knowing that there was a chance that Manning was done was a premeditated move.

          • BerwynBomber

            And didn’t they play Dan Orolovsky at one point? I don’t think their active players laid down — though who knows — but it seemed management/coaching may have been in cahoots re: Suck for Luck.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            That entire team was build for Manning. No run game, competent D playing with the lead. No Manning means poor team.
            I don’t think it was premeditated tanking.

          • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

            Which is exactly why they felt this was the perfect time in their teams history to get the next Peyton Manning. Manning had surgery in the offseason i believe. Luck was coming out and was projected first or at least neck in neck with RG3. Colts brass or ex Colts brass are on record as saying that RG3 was NEVER an option. The players didn’t lay down. The management kept Painter/Kerry Collins in despite the inability to throw it even 7yds down the field. It was premeditated at least on the management side. Players don’t tank because they are just fucking themselves out of millions and jobs.

          • BerwynBomber

            Regardless, the big four sports leagues should adopt the wheel approach for round 1. Rounds 2 onward you can use the existing worst-to-first order. That way two objectives are realized: intentional tanks/”Suck for Luck” motives are removed as temptations and the bottom feeders are still helped the most after the first round.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            By doing that Belichick wins 5 SB every 10, instead of 5 out of 15.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    I’m going to say it another time… the Bears are a losing organization. Whatever changes everybody wants to make/see, if there isn’t an important shift in the way the club is ruled from the top nothing will change.
    Every important asset that goes and works for the Bears fails. He fails because they’re set to fail.

    Cutler was set to fail. Emery was set to fail. Tucker was set to fail. Trestman was set to fail.

    Their failures are effects, not the cause. Not even Bill Belichick would win as the Bears HC.

    PS: The fans are also culpable, in small part. Not their fault directly, but when the club is a losing one fans tend to became that.

    • CanadaBear

      To re-cap, the Bears owners are losers, the front office are losers, the coaches are losers, the players are losers and the fans are losers. HMMMMM.

      • GPLDAN

        Barb is a motherfucking charmer, ain’t he?

        • Barb

          Yeah…cause I’m the one excited about ‘black’ monday.

      • barb

        Stop the nonsense. You disagree with my post let’s talk about it.

        I’ve never said “the front office are losers, the coaches are losers, the players are losers”. I clearly said they are set to fail. Cristal clear statement. Nothing ambiguous about it.

        Your post makes my point. It’s not the ‘Let’s get Haurbaugh and sign Suh so we can fuck some Packers asses !!!’ so it doesn’t qualify. Sorry about that.
        I was just saying that’s not going to cut it.

        • CanadaBear

          I have a hard time understanding your point once in a while.

          • johnnywad

            You’re not alone. I can’t make a damn thing out of that post. In the first sentence, “the Bears are a losing organization.”. Followed by a qualifying statement in the next post that he never said the front office, coaches, or players are losers. Barb likes to do this though. There’s not an actual thought there.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            it’s simple…the organization is set and ran in a losing manner. Not even a winner can have success there. It’s not the fault of the personnel. The ‘front office, coaches, or players’ are employees and are set to fail.

            It’s a pretty basic concept. If you don’t understand the difference between an ‘organization’ and the ‘individuals that work there’ what else can be said ?

          • johnnywad

            The organization is made of the people that work there. If it isn’t management, coaches, or players……if none of them are losers, how is the organization a “loser”? There is nobody else.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    The only way resigning Garza makes sense is in a reserve/leadership role.

    This might be good news for one Charles Tillman, who I want back as a potential important weapon for a DC that knows what he’s doing… covering TEs and rooming the field Woodson style.

    • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

      Tillman would be excellent in the Nickel package playing on the other teams badass tight end but unfortunately that would involve him playing in the box and thus against everything he’s ever said. He won’t be a box safety. That’s how you get really fucked up. Charles has no desire at this point to do that.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I ‘d like to think there’s still a place for him as a Bear but I think it’s pretty clear Peanut’s body is telling him “Enough”.

        • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

          i’d take him as a part time CB instead of an undrafted free agent.

      • SC Dave

        Tilman is done.

    • BearDown100393

      This isn’t about Roberto Garza. It is about Phil Emery attempting to demonstrate that he will survive Black Monday.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        That’s bull. Every franchise signs tons of veterans every year and they cut them before the season starts. If Garza doesn’t have a big portion of guaranteed money he can be cut today without repercussions.

  • BerwynBomber

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog “Remember folks, the vaunted Seahawks front office paid Matt Flynn to be their starting QB. Championship GMs make mistakes.”

    While also drafting Russell Wilson. Plus, Flynn’s Seattle salary, though foolish, wasn’t as cumbersome as you think. There was only 10M of guaranteed money, of which half was paid out his first year. Hence, it was rather painless to unload him after they find out what they had in Wilson.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I think it still qualifies as a gaffe.

      • BerwynBomber

        Of course it does. I was only pointing out that a) financially it was far from crippling, and b) drafting Wilson kinda made up for it.

        • AlbertInTucson

          And getting Wilson comes under “I’d rather be lucky than good.”

          Like getting a Richard Dent in a round of the draft that no longer even exists.

    • BearDown100393

      Flynn should thank the Bears for being financially set the rest of his life.

      • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

        his 400yd 6 td game was against detroit.

  • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

    Let’s drug Cutty so he misses the game, lose it, get the 7th pick, trade back to the 17-23 range, pick up an OT and an extra 2nd RD pick OL, get Suh in free agency and another LB and run a 46zone and hope we get to the quarterback before our secondary is exposed….deal?

    • BerwynBomber

      No OT thanks. Can’t invest in offense that early unless it is Cutty’s eventual replacement. The Defense has too many needs. The O-line has three good to very good starters in Slauson, Bush and Long. You can live with that. Hell, even the back-ups looked semi-competent last week against Suh and company.

    • BearDown100393

      If the goal is to lose the game, might as well roll the dice and let #6 play.

    • BillW

      Despite what Gary said in the Super Bowl shuffle, the 46 was a man to man defense

    • BlameAngelo

      Jesus that’s so brutal on so many levels. Suh = too much money . We can draft Leonard Williams if we Trade Cutty to the Titans. Why do we want to build an OL? Do they win superbowls? And the best way to lose this game is START Cutty.

      • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

        i think i may have been going for tongue in cheek when i started the idea with drugging an NFL qb. Then you actually call the idea brutal and then propose that playing the starting quarterback is the best way to lose when the other qb on the roster is Fales who will never start in the NFL in this lifetime.

        • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

          and set up a Disqus acct you lazy piece it takes one minute.

    • SC Dave

      A couple of doughnuts should do the trick, no?

  • BillW

    Bears don’t “announce” emery is returning because he is under contract.

    BuBut the timing of the Garza extension is a despressing indication that emery stays and the general structure of the Bears stays in place

    So a rebuild won’t happen. Another long shot potentially great first time coach will be hired based on his willingness to work with Cutler.

    I’m so happy I could drop a duece right on the whole mess

    • BearDown100393

      Odds are Garza fell over backwards when learning of this news.

    • BerwynBomber

      Can’t see PE risking his job (and his rep) on another unknown Trestman type. Shanny would be a solid, professional hire if you’re keeping #6 and still believe in the Cutty “potential”. Wouldn’t surprise if Harbaugh is still in play either. I just can’t see this being a preferential gig for someone of Harbaugh’s options. This will still be a “win now” job based on the O’s age and expensive contracts. Go someplace like Oakland or the Jets where the expectations are lower and you have more flexibility with the roster.

    • GPLDAN

      Bill –

      My new year’s resolution will be to be nice to you in 2015 on the blog if you never speak of the bathroom again.

      • BillW

        Deal, Bear fan buddy

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Emery has little to do with the ‘general structure of the Bears’.

      Example: If the Bears bring Ditka as president and sign Haurbaugh as head coach the ‘general structure’ changes completely even if Emery stays in place.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        Sounds like a good reality show. I’m wondering how long Harbaugh has waited to punch Ditka.

  • GPLDAN

    On this day long ago, a child was born who, by age 30, would transform the world. Happy Birthday Isaac Newton b. Dec 25, 1642

    • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

      so we don’t credit our sources now?

      • GPLDAN

        That was Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

        • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

          haha, i’m aware

    • CanadaBear

      I saw Neil Degrasse Tyson got people all wound up with that tweet and a couple others tweets kidding people about X-mas. I had to laugh at some of the responses calling him a stupid fucker. Of course, they had spelling and grammar errors throughout their tweets. If I’m going to call out someone for being stupid, I’m probably not going to start with one of the world’s leading astrophysicists.

      • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

        he knew what he was doing when he tweeted it. Guys like that deserve a slap on the back for the good work and a playful shove for being a fucking dork about it

        • CanadaBear

          I really like the guy. He knows he’s smart, enjoys being smart, there’s no false modesty and he’s a shit disturber. Gotta respect that!

    • BlameAngelo

      And two weeks later, Galileo Galilei passed away. On the shoulders of giants ……

  • John Doe

    There is still hope that the silver-tongued bullshitter Emery is gone..

    ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk · 1h1 hour ago
    Full-blown Bears house cleaning could be coming http://wp.me/p14QSB-9FtD

    • GPLDAN

      Oh man, that would be Christmas all over again.

      It’s possible that Cliff Stein simply did the Garza deal on some pre-arranged schedule with his agent and that is doesn’t mean Emery stays. That would be good.

      Everyone here knows I think Emery is a doofus, but killing the Wicked Witch Ted – that would be something that signalled new era in a good way.

      • John Doe

        IMO Garza signing is no guarantee that Emery is safe. It is just $1.5 million dollar deal and he may be cut in training camp. Even if he stays, it doesn’t mean they don’t look for a younger, long-term option at Center.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I think Emery is the Bears best asset. It would be a huge loss if they can him.

        What should happen is the addition of other competent elements in key positions.

        • BillW

          In fairness I am truly curious as to your reasoning

          Though being the best asset on the Bears doesn’t mean he is good

        • BerwynBomber

          PE is a glorified scout. As a GM he has had more misses than hits and his two biggest moves (extending Cutty and hiring Trestman) have been disasters.

          Bears best assets are the city, the brand, the fan base, and Long, Jeffrey and Fuller. I’m inclined to toss Forte in there too, but because of his age and RB’s wear and tear, he is more about deserving of a place in the Bears’ mythical HoF than as a future asset.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Extending Cutler means the new puffy GM can receive draft picks for his rights if he decides to trade him.
            When/if that happens I want you to retract the negative spin you put on that resigning.
            Also if the new GM doesn’t look to trade Cutler he should instantly be criticized as being on board with the contract… and the bashing can start.

  • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

    any betting men out there? I’m putting the house down on San Diego vs an Alex Smith-less KC team.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Alex Smith. Lacerated spleen. Ow.

  • John Doe

    Bears better move quickly. Jets also looking for GM and HC.

    ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk
    · 4h4 hours ago

    Report: Casserly contacting candidates to be the Jets’ next coach and GM, Rex Ryan cleans out his office http://wp.me/p14QSB-9Ftt

  • GPLDAN

    Canada –

    Any good albums for Xmas? I picked up Doolittle 25 and Neil Young’s Storytone from my SO in the stocking.

    • CanadaBear

      To be honest, I haven’t bought any new music in a long time. I’ve become that music fan that I never understood. I stopped listening to new music and just play what I’ve got. Definitely have to admit I’m old. Not familiar with Doolittle 25. I like Neil’s rockin’ stuff and respect the rest of his music. He never sold out and has been who he is, forever. Never seen him live. I’m at the point where I don’t think I’ll ever go to big shows in arenas ever again. I hate crowds that much. I get claustrophobic and have to get out (anxiety attack, I guess). Cormonster tries to keep me relevant with Lake Street Dive and others (bless his heart!). I have truly become an old fart. Probably TMI.

      Sounds like your SO is a keeper if she’s giving you music as a present!

      • AlbertInTucson

        I hear you about “New Music” purchases, Canada.

        • CanadaBear

          It kind of bums me out that I’ve given up but at some point it comes down to “how much time are you spending listening to music”. I literally have hundreds of CD’s, dozens of each tape medium, (r-t-r, cassettes and video cassettes) and hundreds of albums. This is after I’ve culled all of them a few times. I’m guessing at least half the CD’s were given to me by bands, labels, friends, etc. When I was active doing Blues promotion I got a lot of promo CD’s. Since I mostly like roots music, there really isn’t much that’s truly new. At least that’s my excuse and I’m sticking to it.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I have owned THE ADVENTURES OF ROBIN HOOD in 3 video formats: Beta, VHS and DVD. Never had a Laser Disk player and I am NOT converting my DVD library to Blu-Ray.

    • BillW

      Vinyl is back but very expensive. Is that what you have?

      • CanadaBear

        I still play my vinyl all the time. Of course, I still play my reel-to-reel and cassette deck, too.

        • BillW

          My reel to reel broke. Only one channel. Someday I’ll get it fixed but my tapes have probably disintegrated. Got a few digitized but that was expensive too

          • CanadaBear

            I wouldn’t go to the expense of digitizing my r-t-r or cassettes. I’ve got a bunch of video cassettes of some great old Blues stuff and a few other artists that probably would be smart to digitize. I haven’t watched any of it for years. My favorite is Freddie King doing numerous appearances on a Dallas music show called The Beat. The bandleader was Gatemouth Brown and bass player was Billy Cox. The host was a crazy, white, hep cat kinda guy. These were filmed in the mid ’60’s. If you like Freddie King they are killer. If you don’t like him, it’s just more old Blues stuff.

            Here’s a clip from that show. No mistaking that steel on steel (steel finger picks, steel strings) sound and power house voice.

        • AlbertInTucson

          HAH! I still have a dual deck cassette unit hooked up to my entertainment system which is still a Pioneer SX 203. I also have a a bunch of cassettes laying around.

          Yes, LPS and 45s.

          I could kick myself.I lost some reel-to reel recordings I’d made in 70-71. off WGN and WMAQ Radio of Bears and Blackhawks highlights.

          Some TV audio too after I discovered that back in those days you could pick up WGN TV on the down around 90 on the FM dial.

          Stuff like Bobby Douglass tossing 4 TD passes against Buffalo with a broken wrist .

          LOTS of Lloyd Pettit Hawks calls including the ’71 Cup games.

          Jim West calling goals on WGN TV.

          My reel-to- reel (An Ampex with auto reverse shot craps inthe late 70s but I would KILL to have those records so I could get them converted to digital.

          It was only1 reel but, since it was not music, I recorded at 1 & 7/8 speed in both directions.

          • CanadaBear

            I’ve replaced/upgraded almost all of my stereo equipment over the years. All of it is old now. My R-T-R is a Teac 4300. Still works in both directions but the sensor for the auto reverse doesn’t work. I have to reverse manually. All the other stuff works just fine. I bought a bunch of components in 1970 when my best friend was overseas seeing the world (thanks to the USN). He got smoking deals through the PX. In 1975 another friend was doing the same thing and I upgraded again. The only stuff left from all of that is the R-T-R and 2 sets of Sansui speakers. My Pioneer turntable is the same vintage but I bought that in town. I’ve always been super anal about the vinyl so only a few records are really scratchy (the party records, of course).

      • BearDown100393

        Reissues are pricy. Plenty of 2nd hand vinyl available for decent pricing at independent stores. The NY reissues released by Reprise on RSD are fantastic. Includes Time Fades Away, On The Beach, Tonight’s The Night and Zuma. In particular, Time Fades Away and On The Beach are treats simply because they are relatively rare and NY was not interested in ever re-issuing those for personal reasons.

  • John Doe

    Kaplan’s source confirming PFT report. Know Hope.

    David Kaplan @thekapman · 32m32 minutes ago
    .@ProFootballTalk says full Bears housecleaning could be coming. Excellent source tells me ownership prepared to eat Cutler’s $ if necessary

    David Kaplan @thekapman · 30m30 minutes ago
    The fact ownership appears willing to eat millions on Cutler’s deal is not only stunning but great news ownership wants this mess cleaned up

    David Kaplan @thekapman · 28m28 minutes ago
    .@ProFootballTalk That’s why ownership appears ready to clean house. Source: “This goes beyond embarrassment. The McCaskey’s are angry.”

    David Kaplan @thekapman · 23m23 minutes ago
    Let’s be clear. The Bears would “only” be eating 15.5 million more. They have already paid him 23 million this season including his bonus.

    David KaplanVerified account‏@thekapman
    The Bears have been evaluating consultants over the past few weeks as they work towards fixing an awful 2014 team.

    • BearDown100393

      “evaluating consultants”
      So McCaskey

      • BerwynBomber

        The consultant thing tells me that the McCaskeys, at the very least, want another opinion than Ted Phillips’.

        • johnnywad

          That’s a very positive sign.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      The McCaskey’s !? What does that even mean ?

      • Trac

        I think they are tired of being losers Barb. Ain’t gonna be a loser no more! Hahaha

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          It’s not how it works.

          They’re losers because that’s who they are… it’s not the help’s fault.

          If they think it’s the help’s fault… that shows you they’re still losers.

          • BillW

            I wish I knew what you mean. Maybe they need one voice that clearly speaks for the team. A football guy with a vision and a plan. Is that close?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            hahahhah.

            In order to hire such a figure and in order for that figure to really be the right person for the job and be put in the position to succeed…you have to throw the Bears modus operandi at the trash bin of history and reinvent the way they do business.

            In order for such a game changing event to happen somebody from the ownership family has to ‘create’ some sort of a coup and actually do it. It’s not going to happen naturally. I mean just look at how they operated for 20 years now.

          • BillW

            I am sorry. I really don’t get your posts. I guess it’s just me

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            I really wish i was a loser like the McCaskeys. I mean it must be rough owning a football team, thats probably worth $2billion. I wish i was that kind of loser. Shit they stated they were willing to eat millions to fix the mess. Damn losers.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Man. If every wealthy dude/gal is a winner for you … we’re set.

            I’m glad I found somebody that thinks the McCaskeys are competent and the Bears are a winning organization.

            Remind me.. who are your choices for: president, GM, head coach, quarterback ?
            And why the fuck do we need replacements ?

            Seems to me the Bears should just hire a new interior designer… got to make space for all those Super Bowls they won the last 50 years.

    • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

      lol, here come the 90’s. Fucking David Kaplan. It’s only fitting that you’d be following that cocksucker. You probably watch his shitty tv show with Haugh and masturbate while you nod in agreement with his baseless venom.

      • John Doe

        You can still follow whichever team picks up Cutler.

        Let the excuse-making begin anew!

        • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

          I’m a Bears fan, not a Cubs fan like you.

          • Trac

            What’s the difference? Lol

          • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

            the difference is enormous.

          • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

            Guys like Beardown145454545, wreckinball and JohnDoe are all Cubs fans. Notice any similarity between them?

          • Trac

            Yes, Everyone of them has an “n” in their name.

          • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

            close, each one is a whiny bitchy pussy that dishes out Yahoo quality posts about 90% of the time.

          • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

            and when they actually do have moments of lucidity they proceed to then fuck it up almost immediately thereafter.

          • to be fair, they don’t blame the dissolution of the Honey Bears for Jay leading the league in turnovers…

          • BearDown100393

            Why did you change your name from Cheesy to this?

          • CanadaBear

            Hey, I’m a Cubs fan, too. I may be a douchebag and an asshole but I’m not a whiny bitch.

          • Trac

            No wonder you’re so calm and reasonable. Hahaha

          • BearDown100393

            None of them are interested in a Jay Cutler furry fetish fantasy such as yourself?

    • Trac

      I get the beyond embarrassed part. That’s why you gotta blow it all up. It time for Emery to eat some chicken dinner. Hahaha

      • AlbertInTucson

        Shea McClellin. AKA, John Thiery, revisited.

        Further back, Mike Hull, revisited.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        That’s stupid… Emery is a beast at his job.

        • i thought he was a loser?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            thinking doesn’t seem like your strongest quality.

          • BillW

            You said the whole organization are losers. Emery is part of the organization. Ergo…

          • shhhh. you’ll ruin his narrative.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I said the franchise is a losing organization.
            I didn’t say the entire personnel are losers.

            It’s actually the opposite… I ‘saved’ them…. I stated they are ‘set to fail’.

          • BillW

            Maybe you meant ownership. Trying to help you since you seem to have trouble with words and meanings. The gm etc are part of the organization

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Ok… you guys live in the land of the corporations, but you seem a little out of your element on the matter.

            The GM works for the organization…for fuck’s sake.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organizational_structure … since you seem to have trouble with words and meanings

          • johnnywad

            Or maybe it’s you.

          • BillW

            Your link is to organizational structures. . Then you say the gm works for the organization. Who in your definition is the organization that that the gm works for if not the ownership? Seriously I am trying to understand and failing miserably

          • much like logic isn’t yours.

          • johnnywad

            You misunderstood. Emery is a “beast”. None of the management or players or coaches are “losers”. See, its because Barb saved them. Its the “organization”, that’s the loser. Not any of the people that comprise the organization.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Yes… you can sack Emery, Trestman, Cutler, Tucker…the Bears will never be a top club. Why ? Because all these dudes were brought in following a failing set of requirements and were never put in the best position to succeed.

            I mean… who doesn’t acknowledge that ?

          • ohhh… well that makes sense. thank you for clearing up the Barb talk.

    • BillW

      Laugh at this if you are so inclined but George sitting in the stands vs sky box was significant to me

      • BillW

        If the angry quote is real then it’s what I hoped for

        Centennial bears will be winners

    • BillW

      But the consultants part has me worried. We went that route before.

      • johnnywad

        Apparently somebody not named McCaskey or Phillips needs to make the call. Maybe the consultant thing isn’t a bad idea. Hire a Sherman/Cowher type initially and turn the reins over to them from there.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          hahhaahaahahahhaah

          • Trac

            Lol would have sufficed barb. Hee hee.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Maybe consulting the likes of Bill Polian or Ron Wolf?

      • Trac

        Get Ditka, Buddy Ryan and Mike Singletary on a plane headed for Camp David immediately. Problem solved.

        • SC Dave

          Not the Bears problem, that is certain.

  • Guys. Conte has been ruled out for tomorrow’s game. Things are not looking good.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I think his career is over. He just cannot endure the contact.

      • CanadaBear

        I’m afraid he’s going to keep playing until something really bad happens. Hope not.

        • SC Dave

          Agree on both. The guy may not have giant talent, but he is a baller.

    • Trac

      What else is new evan? Welcome to the party. Hahaha

  • AlbertInTucson

    Blogfather Tweet: “Bears have never hired head coach with previous head coaching experience. This disaster, this season should be the impetus to break trend. ”

    One can hope but I remain skeptical/pessimistic about that type of hiring by this organization.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      How is that even possible? That’s crazy. Teams that do that have a rep of being excessively cheap.

      Reminds of when the Chicago Bulls hired Vinny Del Negro and everybody thought “wuh?”

      • AlbertInTucson

        It’s a fact. It’s easier when you’ve only had 1 Head Coach, who also happened to be the owner, for a good portion of the team’s first 5 decades of existence.

  • BearDown100393

    The McCaskeys should request Dick Vermeil’s assistance. He is a SB winning head coach. He has made numerous stops at various NFL cities. He is retired now and good serve in the same capacity that Scotty Bowman aids the Blackhawks. It brings about instant respect and put an end to the current garbage era.

  • AlbertInTucson

    I give up.What did the The Idiot Receiving Savant, also known as Josh Gordon, do to get suspended by the Browns?

    • AlbertInTucson

      OK. Missed a walk through and then late for meeting.

      Have a seat, son, we’re happy to save a game check on you.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Oh, and you needed this last game this season to qualify as an Unrestricted Free Agent next season. Too bad, though we have to wonder how longa line they will be for you based on you track record of foul ups.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Speaking of old recording formats, I watched BRAD MELTZER’S LOST HISTORY last night which included a story about a former National Archives employee (A Department Head, actually) who had walked out with thousands of historic, original recordings and was selling them on Ebay.

    Needless to say, security at the National Archives has been beefed up to what it always SHOULD have been meaing everyone has to pass thru security going OUT as well as IN.

  • Trac

    Phil: ok monsters, it’s a new season, time to get to work, leaves room.

    Chicken Dinner: looks around the room as if to see who Emery is talking to and notice’s coach Trestman standing in the back of the room sucking his thumb.

    Trestman: takes thumb out of mouth. ok men, who wants to start this week?

    Cutler: looks down.

    Conte: takes ice bag off left shoulder and raises arm.

    Briggs: Sorry coach, I can’t make it this week, I’ve got a grand opening to attend.

    Tucker: who’s got the playbook?

    Jared Allen: here you go coach. It’s the 1978 purple people eaters defensive and offensive play books. I found them in Bud Grants hunting cabin last year. Hee hee. We’re gonna kill em this year coach. Hee hee.

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