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Position-by-Position at the Bye: Pass Catchers

| October 29th, 2014

Chicago Bears v Green Bay Packers

The following is part of a series of position-by-position breakdowns at the halftime point of the 2014 season.

The biggest issue with grading this group? Once Forte is taken out of the mix there are only three players who can even receive a grade.

  • Here are two statistics I think explain Brandon Marshall’s lack of productivity. (1) Last year Marshall caught passes over 61% of the times he was targeted. This year that number is ten points lower, slightly above 51%. (2) Last year year Marshall had 70 first downs. This year he has 24 through 8 games. Marshall almost single-handedly won the San Francisco game, making acrobatic catches on one leg, but outside of that evening he’s been shell of his dominant self. Is injury to blame? Perhaps. But he is playing and he must be evaluated based upon that play.
  • Alshon Jeffery has been the most misused wide receiver in the sport this year. Are the Bears really so out of ideas that they’ve decided to exclusively run Devin Hester’s playbook for Jeffery? You know, bubble screen, end around, bubble screen, bad button hook that gets inevitably dropped…etc. When Jeffery has been used to stretch opposing defenses vertically (Atlanta, Jets) the passing game has thrived. But it seems to be an element drifting slowly out of the playbook.

  • Martellus Bennett is having an excellent season and would be considered in All Pro balloting at the tight end position today if Mel Tucker and the Bears defense hadn’t allowed Rob Gronkowski to deliver a stat sheet stacker at Foxboro Sunday. (Gronkowski’s numbers skyrocketed after Sunday’s dominance.) Bennett was a brilliant FA signing by Phil Emery and without him, this passing attack would feel terribly similar to that “remedial” design universally derided by Mike Tice.
  • The Bears have received nothing, outside an oddly-surprising Josh Morgan touchdown catch, from the third receiver position. That is unless you consider the inability of Jay Cutler and Santonio Holmes to execute any semblance of a precision route a “thing”.

The following grade is a fair evaluation of these three players.

Grade: C

The following grade is based upon expectations of these three players.

Grade: D-

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  • NewBearInTown

    I’m much more concerned with the last bullet point than anything else. You look at the best offenses in the league. They’re run by Manning, Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Luck, etc. When they click on all cylinders, they’re completing passes to 7+ players. That means even the sub packages and special teams guys are catching stuff.

    There is no excuse for Trestman’s lack of creativity. Cutler may have some tunnel vision issues, but the other players are there on the roster. Cutler needs to be put in designed plays where he throws to guys outside of our big 4.

    • Peanut FTW

      The problem is .. (prepare to watch me kick a dead horse) it is hard to judge an offense in games with such tough sledding. If you have a few early miscues and find yourself in an early deep hole, it can be very hard for any O to crawl out of. Look at Indy last Sunday. They get themselves in a hole late and Luck begins to look like a clown, throws a pick, gets a safety throwing off his ass in the end zone. Look at Rodgers 2nd half in the loss on Sunday. Once the opposing D knows your one dimensional it is a different ball game. We have to keep the game close so we can force them to stack the box vs Matt and then use the whole playbook.

      • Bears-4-Ever

        We won’t be able to fix the Defense this year…I’m sorry to say that but it’s true…between the injuries and lack of experienced talent it is what it is. I’m hoping for another good draft picks next year…I think we’ll be OK but defensively I feel this season is lost. I agree it’s tough for an offense, any offense to crawl out of a deep hole when behind…but the current offense (dead horse kicking) SHOULD be able to at the very least score points and or formulate good offensive drives giving the batter defense some rest. We have neither at this point.

        • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

          More importantly, the offense needs good sustained drives early in games. We need points early in games. If we keep giving up early leads, it won’t matter if our offense can go tit for tat. We need our offense to be our best defense. Long ball control drives that result in points. 3 and outs are bad. Subsequent 3 and outs early in a ball game is much worse.

          • Peanut FTW

            I agree about the early game, we do need a way to get in rhythm sooner and we need to be much better on 3rd down. But it feels so frustrating when our D is on the field the last few weeks because I feel like even that wouldn’t matter, that even controlling the clock and having offensive success wouldn’t be enough because this defense is so porous they will just give the points our O works for right back. I mean giving up 37 points avg in 4 losses…. you cant expect the O to avg 40 points.

          • BillW

            Correct – but it’s two separate problems when we thought we’d have only the D to evaluate. I’d rather lose with the offense scoring 30 than with the offense scoring 20.

          • Peanut FTW

            Id rather not lose, regardless of the score.

          • BillW

            Your first post on this chain plus Doc makes the point very well. Add to that a below par defense and we lose. We could be 6-2 with the bad defense. No way you can beat a team that can score on every possession like GB did and NE almost did.

            But in a post I just made, I said smarter play early (by the offense) improves the turnover ratio since we wouldnt’ be playing from behind – or not as far behind. and that probably gives the D a better chance to generate turnovers themselves.

            The way the team is built, the struggles of the offense are the fixable issue.

            I have a feeling we’ve all said all there is to say about this several times over. And it’s only Wednesday of the bye week.

            I sense some of you are hungry for some tits and kits videos. (Sorry – not my thing.)

          • Bears-4-Ever
        • the back seven of the defense that they’ve been throwing out there has been seriously lacking in talent.

          http://dabearsbeat.com/2014/10/29/defense-lacks-talent/

    • re: creativity: what does it take to see more of Forte and Carey on the field together? Honestly, your best 6 skill position players right now are Forte, Bennett, Marshall, Jeffery, Rosario, and Carey. So on any given play, 5 of those 6 should be on the field. Unless you want to pull one for a 6th OL in a jumbo set.

  • Peanut FTW

    Im not sure it is fair to give the pass catchers as a whole a C. The Bears are the 11th ranked Passing team in YPG (and would be 10th if the D hadn’t allowed NE to move up 3 spots last Sunday) and 6th in Passing TDs. Compared to last year and expectations, yes probably a C. Forte simply is a pass catcher in this offense, Bennett is one of the best TEs in the league, Even while Alshon and Marshall aren’t putting up the staggering numbers of last year, they are keeping Defenses out of the box and allowing the running game to make hay.
    The problem is not the pass catchers themselves. I would bet you dollars to doughnuts that about every team in the league save for maybe 2 would trade their WR1, WR2, TE and RB with us straight up in a heart beat. They deserve a B, especially if you are standing behind a C rating for the QB and IMO a D for the offensive coaching.

    • BerwynBomber

      Agreed. I don’t get Blogfather’s logic at all in rating Cutler above the receivers. Bennett alone has had the best year among all the skilled guys (including Cutler) after Forte. Doesn’t make much sense.

      • BillW

        I agree. Jeff – maybe you need to pull all these together first and then put them out one at a time. Your ratings now make it sound like the receivers are holding Cutler down instead of the other way around.

    • DaBearsBlog

      Your stats are not very good when you remove Forte from them.

      • Peanut FTW

        Forte is a primary weapon in Trestman’s passing offense (period)

        So.. that is like saying the saints offense isn’t so hot without Graham’s numbers or Gosh golly if you take away Murray’s carries the Dallas run game isn’t that effective. Um no shit Sherlock.

    • wreckinball

      Interesting point. Teams would fall all over themselves to get Jeffery,

      There would be few takers for Cutler. I think the QB and WR grades are flipped

      • BillW

        Emery seemed to say that there were some trade offers. I assume it was Jeffrey for draft chocies. If so, wise non-move. Who knows how long BMarsh lasts here.

        • wreckinball

          I agree don’t trade Jeffery. My main point was that other teams would be interested in our WRs

          Few would be interested in our QB.

          I think the grades are flipped WR C

          QB D

    • I think Cutler has outplayed Marshall and Jeffery this year. They’re not getting open.

      • Peanut FTW

        I dunno, I think it’s a toss up. I agree that they aren’t getting open, but he has the freedom to change plays to ones that would better fit what the D is doing. Cutler is either making the wrong changes or bad decisions/throws within the audible. But the receivers are also apparently on a different page than Jay or dropping passes this year more than last.

  • BillW

    Barb – we’re on to a new thread so I’ll respond here to your last post in the Forte thread:

    Yes – the Bears organization is – let me say this carefully – not very football savvy for today’s NFL. There are those who feel as you do generally, but (as I’ve learned the hard way) the board tends to concentrate on the here and now and not longer term.

    That’s not a bad thing. Ginny ain’t gonna sell. And the family seems to want a certain type of person to project a certain type of image. And that seems to be as important as winning. They seem to want to win with a certain style coach and GM.

    And despite that, there is no reason that they can’t be competitive. The fact is given that situation, we do seem to have a GM that understands how to stock a roster. The trouble is he’s trying to do 5 years work in 2 or 3. JW pointed this out quite nicely by essentially saying Emery feels compelled to build for today and the future at the same time. It probably can’t be done.

    He swung and missed on the head coach (IMO). Emery will get another chance at that whenever he feels the time is right. He swung and missed with the Cutler contract, but it was no time to bunt or take a walk (to continue the analogy) by letting him go. The next draft /FA period will be Emery’s last real chance.

    So the point is – the board is looking at what needs to be done with the situation as it exists – not as we’d want it to be.

    • CanadaBear

      The McCaskey’s are basically nice people that have no idea how to run a NFL franchise. We’ve all known that since a few years after Papa Bear died. If the tax implications are troubling, they might sell the team when Virginia passes. If not, they aren’t selling. Why would they? The value of the franchise goes up exponentially every year and many family members are employed by the team. Not to mention the status and access NFL ownership provides.

      • Bears-4-Ever

        We NEED SOMEONE in the Current Ownership Group to actually CARE.

        Look at the Blackhawks…a change up top to people who actually care and want to win…you can turn it around and very quickly. We need that to happen for the Bears.

        • CanadaBear

          I think ownership cares deeply. They’re just clueless. I think Ditka kinda scarred the McCaskey’s. They haven’t hired a kick ass, take no prisoners, scorched earth coach since. They’ve all been quiet and very respectful of the family. That seems to be a big priority for them.

          • Bears-4-Ever

            “Cares deeply”?? Cares about what exactly? Their paychecks? Yep Agreed. But if they really cared about WINNING and Making the Bears Franchise a EMPIRE like the Steelers, of old, etc. Then they need to SELF-Evaluate. They won’t do this because then they would have to admit what they have been doing all these years SINCE Dikta,, was wrong. When Virginia goes to Heaven, it may or may not change…but we won’t see anything substantial until then.

          • CanadaBear

            it all goes back to being clueless about football. They hire people to run everything and they stay in the background. The problem is they hire the wrong people to run everything.

        • BillW

          They really only care when they feel the team is being made a laughing stock.

          The first was the McGinnis fiasco of announcing him as head coach when he didn’t accept.

          Another “last straw” was Reggie White taking a victory after the Bears / Packers game IN SOLDIER FIELD!

          Another came with the Lovie / Jerry / Ted justification press conference with the McCaskeys seemingly behind a two way mirror looking on.

          And then they go away quietly.

          I said this many times here – they think it’s NEAT to own a founding franchise. They think they are special just because of that. That’s enough for them – this whole winning a Super Bowl thing doesn’t seem to be a motivator.

          I thought George might be our Rocky Wirtz but probably not.

          • CanadaBear

            George is definitely a step up from Mikey but he’s not exactly Knute Rockne. Dollar Bill had so much money he really didn’t care. He was convinced showing games on TV would hurt attendance. Talk about that parking meter mentality, where people can’t see any revenue streams unless it’s blatantly obvious. DUH! How do you get another generation interested in the Hawks when they literally never see them? Really happy Rocky hired the Cubs marketing guy. Between the two of them, great drafts and hiring a great coach, the franchise is riding high. Gotta love that!

  • Bears-4-Ever

    Good point BillW…I will move my response here as well…

    Ok Barb, so I read your whole triad and what I can gather in a nut shell is you think the biggest problem the Bears Franchise has is the current Ownership. I totally agree with that and if you look back in some of my posts here over the years I’ve basically said the same thing. However, I did not need a 1000 word dissertation in which I call the bloggers here names and insult everyone. you start doing that and no matter how good your point is, you fail, because you come off as a total ass.

    salutări

  • Bears-4-Ever

    Our WR corps is UNDER ACHIEVING right now. I think A Solid “D” fits when they really should be at a minimum of a B+. I see Forte as becoming another Walter Payton, in that I mean he’ll be a GREAT Player, on a mediocre or down right bad team. BM is in the same boat, however I see BM wanting OUT if this continues into the middle of next season, he’ll find a new home and explode. I hope they can turn it around to a reasonable point so that we can keep a lot of our offensive talent.

    Also, can someone tell me who drafted the 1985 Bears Offensive line? I know Van Horn was already there…but that crew was one of the best ever gathered…with a line like that we could do wonders.

    • CanadaBear

      Jim Finks and Jerry Vainisi were the architects.

    • wreckinball

      I think WRs are a C

      QB is a D

  • wreckinball

    If you swapped QBs last week big difference. If you swapped WRs same

    Brady would succeed in either situation Cutler wouldn’t

    Our problem is the QB

    • Bernsy

      When did you and Jay date. I’m sorry he married Kristin. You are starting to sound like a spurned lover. You really think Brady gets out of the way of those 2 A gap blitzes where Forte whiffs on both? You honestly think Brady somehow hits WR’s that are being held on every play and can’t get any separation? Actually, do you think Brady would put up with this bullshit playcalling? Imagine Brady predictably dropping back on slow developing playaction relying on Mills and Ola to play like HOF’ers. No, you saw quick hitting playaction, underneath crossing routes, etc.
      You are the same guy that said he’d take Teddy Bridgewater over Cutler. That is laughable and goes to state of mind.
      The WR’s have been misused tragically. The playcalling is completely different from last year and it’s making everyone look and perform much worse including the quarterback. Damnit Trestman, give the WR’s a fucking chance already to do what they historically have done well. He’s failing in that regard.

      • Bernsy

        last year Trestman misused Bennett and used the WR’s incredibly. This year he’s using Bennett incredibly and misusing the WR’s. It’s bullshit I tell ya, bullshit.

        • wreckinball

          Such spot on analysis are you dating Jay?

          • Bernsy

            do you think Brandon and Alshon have been used correctly this year? Even our blog moderator pointed it out.

          • Bernsy

            last year Bennett said on multiple occasions that he was sick of running 3yd outs and getting tackled immediately. His teammates would routinely rib him about it.
            Trestman fixed it and look at the awesome result. That’s not analysis, it’s just me listening to Unicorn and applying the concept to the games we all watched. he’s being used very well this year.
            Alshon is not being used well lately. In the dolphins game who many balls did he get? How many did Brandon marshall get? What kind of routes did they get them on? Just flip on the tape and give it a quick view so you can get a good idea.

      • wreckinball

        Every team would take Bridgewater over Cutler

        Young guy who was a 1st rounder and who so far looks good.

        Versus a guy who hasn’t got it done in 10 years on two different teams

        Your post was pretty psychotic Take it easy on the name calling its childish and pointless

        • CanadaBear

          Every team would take Teddy over Jay? Doubt that. I’m guessing no team wants either one of them right now.

        • Bernsy

          what name calling? spurned lover? Dude…

        • Peanut FTW

          I don’t think there is a team out there that would take Bridgewater over their current starter, maybe the Jets; they are a year further into the suckfest and the two are pretty comparable so maybe them but other than that; Bridgewater looks like the next in a looooong line of failed high drafted QB prospects.

        • TheBigCheesy

          No one is taking teddy bridgewater over Jay Cutler. unless their contracts are included. Then the Bears could get out of Cutler’s contract and then cut Bridgewater’s ass the moment he steps through the door

      • wreckinball

        Yes Brady would tear up the NE D who suck by the way

        Jay does not get through his progressions He locks on and throws into coverage or takes a sack.

        That was basically what one of the Dolphins DBs said

        WRs are ok QB is the issue

        • Bernsy

          He overthrew Bennett and that’s why it was picked, not because the guy made a play on the ball. C’mon bro. The guy stood there and it hit him in the hands.

          • BillW

            I have to step in and make a point I made previously. The Dolphin who made that statement was either flat out lying or exposing his own team.

            He said Cutler ALWAYS locks on his receivers and NEVER looks off.

            So why only one INT – and on an overthrow at that. I guess he’s saying despite that huge advantage his defense sucks.

          • wreckinball

            Well they did pretty good against us

            It’s not the receivers

            We basically have the reincarnation of Jeff George at QB

            I hope I’m wrong

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            No, you don’t. You’re a troll.

          • wreckinball

            sorry not on the Jay band wagon but some fools still are .

            His stats are actually pretty comparable to Jeff George

            But stay a fool

      • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

        lol, nice. Fuck Wreckinball.
        I keed I keed.

        • wreckinball

          You re an idiot

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Is it your keyboard or brain that’s broken?

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            lol, Bridgewater.

          • wreckinball

            Lol Cutler the whole fricking league Oh let’s see in two weeks he will out duel Rogers

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            you have to be a Sox fan. where are you from?

          • wreckinball

            Nope Cub fan not sure if the relevance to Bridgewater vs Cutler Vikes are 3-5

            No way would they trade QBs with the Bears but keep those colored giggles on

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            JT, is that you?

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            lol, it is you you dumb mother fucker. you’ve been posting crazy shit on and off of this blog forever. JT, you used to have that dumb cubs hat as your fucking picture and you’ve been flooding the blog forever with your piss. You’ve been exposed. Haha, JT, welcome home.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            i’m not even mad at your insanity now that I know it’s you. I am allowing you to continue to post your nonsense. Please proceed.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            and even if he does “out duel” Rodgers , what happens when they don’t punt again? And how exactly do you outduel someone when you are playing against 2 defenses and one of the defenses is the Bears?

  • wreckinball

    I think Emery was a good choice. Finks had a bigger mess than Emery does.

    Finks was also a proven winner at Minnesota, Emery Chiefs and Falcons meh

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    • Bernsy

      Sign me up! Sounds like a great opportunity. I’ve always wanted to repair air balloons.

      • CanadaBear

        I’m torn between VCR assistant and Gun Orthopedist.

        • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

          Emery Water Boarder?

          • CanadaBear

            You know I’m really a pussycat.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            But what the Hell is an Emery Water Boarder? Sounds like torture. I didn’t know there was a profession for that. Sounds like what some of us want to do to Phil Emery.

            And what the hell is a VCR assistant? What is this 1983?

            And what about “high school”? What do you do for a living sir? High School.

            Is this for those who can never graduate and take up high school as a profession?

            So strange. Speaking of strange. Where’s MB been? This blog has seemingly lost GP, Johnny, and MB in the last week. What the fuck?

          • CanadaBear

            The entire post is gibberish. I like that Jeff doesn’t take these posts down. It’s endlessly entertaining to read the comments. Wish MB, GP, Irish and Johnny were here to comment. You know you’d be howling with laughter.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            Full disclosure, I actually jumped on last night for the first time and was going to post but ended up watching a movie instead. I noticed that the blog has lost a couple of guys and it made me feel like coming back was the right thing to do at this time.

            A new project at work + not wanting to fight anymore about a team with a myriad of problems led me to want to take a permanent break from the blog but going cold turkey is fucking hard man.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            Atta Boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            Heeeeeeeres, Johnny!

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            you’ve got me everyday around noon and maybe a bit at night when the wife is asleep.

          • Trac

            Glad to see this Yonny.

          • CanadaBear

            Yeah, my passion comes and goes when we stink. I try to avoid game days until later in the day after all the craziness has died down. Other than you and a couple other posters, I don’t even bother to argue with anyone.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            if you’re not fighting like Sicilians you don’t really love the other guy.

          • CanadaBear

            Based on past experience, I think Johnny will be back. GP kinda comes and goes. Sometimes he’s here all the time and then he misses a few days. Hope so anyway. MB? Have no clue. I know this can be a pretty depressing place when we stink so maybe that’s all there is to it.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            Doc, you sonbitch, I could never leave you. I read some old posts last night and decided I had to come back

          • Trac

            Who’s got their pencil ready? Bear Fan? Beuller?…..anyone…..

    • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

      I want to go BaDuncan Dunkin!

      • CanadaBear

        Be careful. She might be more relentless than a Baptist preacher with an Amway distributorship.

    • BillW

      But getting back to B BaD –

      ICP? I see pee?

      Anyone have the nerve to call the number?

  • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

    I absolve you of all of your sins while I was away. I will allow you all to take back your traitorous posts and anything up until this point is water under the bridge. All future posts are fair game!

    • CanadaBear

      My brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Welcome back! I’ll try to contain my disgust to Nessman and PE.

      • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!
        • CanadaBear

          Glad you’re back. See if you can work your charm on MB and GP. This place just isn’t the same without ’em.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            I lost MB’s number when my old phone died. GP, jumped off because he legitimately hates the current Bears roster and overall regime and doesn’t want to invest time into it. I completely understand why he’s gone.

          • EnderWiggin

            I don’t get it. We are going 11-5 this year.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            I think I saw a post where Evantonio says it best: you can’t go 14-5 without losing 5 games.

          • CanadaBear

            I feel pretty much the same as GP but what the hell. I try to avoid the posters that drive me nuts and yuck it up with my pals. Not to mention there a couple of new posters that bring it.

    • BillW

      Welcome back and thank you father for the absolution!

      • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

        lol, Bill, i’m here to cleanse you all.

        • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

          at least for a half hour a day during the week.

          • BillW

            I always believed in quality over quantity (though you wouldn’t know it by the length of some of my posts.)

    • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

      I see that Peanut FTW and some guy names Berns have been holding down the fort from total fucking collapse. Add my name to the ranks. The Spartans had 300, the DBB’ers have 3.
      Trade talks? Bridgewater comparisons? lol, not on my fucking watch.

  • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

    I bid thee adieu until my wife slumbers.

  • Peanut FTW
  • BillW

    Jeff’s tweet:
    NFL ain’t complicated. Only one team ranked in top 13 of turnover differential has a losing record. Carolina. They are 3-4-1.

    Well, it’s at least somewhat complicated. Again, cause and effect issues. A very conservative team with a decent defense can easily rank in the top 10 in turnover differential and still have a losing record. If you play smart and good you score more points and therefore win. The by-product of playing smart is BOTH points and lack of turnovers.

    In the old days of football an indicator of a winning versus losing team was the number of times you passed. Teams that passed 40-plus times had a very small winning percentage.

    Dandy Don said to that “well, then throw 39 times and sit on it!”.

    Cause / effect – they didn’t lose by passing 40 times; they passed 40-plus times because they were losing.

    Jay’s turnovers seem to happen when they are losing. I haven’t had the time to look into that but it feels that way. Add to the fact that other teams are not in predictable passing situations (since they have a comfortable lead) and the defense fails to get turnovers as well.

    So the less than proficient offense lately have made for playing from behind – hence the lack of defensive turnovers and increase in offensive turnovers.

  • BillW

    Is Bonnie Ba Duncan Waffle? Clicked on “her” icon and got her profile and it’s 3550 posts. I’m not a regular so I can’t tell for sure.

    Or did “she” somehow claim old posts as “her” own?

    • BillW

      Sorry – not Waffle but someone who also left. All the old posts are now “Bonnie”.

    • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

      lol, GP

      • BillW

        There we are. Crap – and I wanted to be a High School VCR Water Boarder or whatever.

  • BillW

    I’m looking for a code in the “Barb” post that GP planted but can’t find it. You know, like the F-You letter Arnold sent out when he was governor.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/27/schwarzenegger-sends-lawm_n_336319.html

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    fyi new tread

  • Animull

    When you are playing ON Of the WORST teams against the run (New England), down ONLY 10-0 and are facing a 2nd down and FOUR….YOU RUN THE BALL….NOT THROW IT !
    Trestman can’t process how to manage calling THE Correct call at the Right time.
    Animull

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