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Position-by-Position at the Bye: Coaches

| October 31st, 2014

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The following is part of a series of position-by-position breakdowns at the halftime point of the 2014 season.

This coaching staff, through eight games, has not been good. Here are the questions that should be asked when issuing a grade:

(1) Are they getting the most out of their offensive talent?

Absolutely not.

(2) Are they getting the most out of their defensive talent?

No, their deployment of linebackers has been misguided. There’s nothing they can do with the secondary.

(3) Are they playing effective special teams?

No. Way too many mistakes, even for an inexperienced unit, and the return game is completely useless.

(4) Are they “coaching up” production out of lesser talent in any of the team’s three phases?

What do you think?

Grade: F

Note: This does not mean I advocating the firing of everyone, as has been seen around the internet world these days. But the Bears have beaten Atlanta and the Jets – two of the worst teams in the league. If they didn’t pull off the amazing comeback in San Francisco – due to the heroics of Brandon Marshall and Kyle Fuller – what would folks be saying about this franchise today? The Bears sideline has been outmatched almost every week.

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  • CanadaBear

    No argument from me.

  • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

    I defended the coaches for several weeks, especially Tucker. As the season has gone on, that’s stopped. They’re all just plain doing a horrible job.

    • BerwynBomber

      I would still give Tucker credit for shoring up the run D to a degree.

      • Blur of Ions

        Let’s wait and see how the run D looks with Houston gone for the season. I have a feeling the improvement had more to do with his presence than any improved coaching or scheming.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          No. that was to do with the scheme. they defend 2 gaps now. Great thing in theory. You should play nickel behind it. It’s common sense. Play the run with the DL and nickel behind it.

          It’s what the Giants and Saints did last year when their Ds had to change their losing ways. And they become dominant.

  • RenoBear

    Spot on Blogfather. Blog points don’t really apply to you, but +1,000,000,000 blog points

    • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

      Welcome to Da Bears Blog, where all the coaches suck and the points don’t matter.

  • BillW

    Regarding Jeff’s tweet on the weather:
    Measurable snow today in Chicago. At least a tenth of an inch, which is a record for Halloween in Chicago.

    Remember when that used to be called “Bear weather”?

  • Peanut FTW

    I think this overwhelmingly the most spot on and deserving grade among them all. While there are arguments to be made for or against most of the other groups, the coaches have been a cut and dried failure up to this point.
    Even during the rare occasion that things look alright on the field, they will seemingly make a change away from what is working. Outside of having every starting LB injured and your only top 10 DB shelved for the rest of the year, Tucker is running out of excuses. This defense seems soft and without heart most of the time.

    • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

      it’s not just Tucker though.

      The offense seems soft and without heart most of the time too.

      • BillW

        Can’t teach that. But teams often do take on the personna of their coach.

  • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

    Happy Halloween. Dressed as a woman for my classes today. I’ve rolled my bad ankle four times already. I don’t know how women do it.

    • CanadaBear

      I did that years ago and went to the local Goodwill for clothes. I found some decidedly unfashionable pumps with about a 1″ heel that actually fit. Not sure how women walk around in high heels. Or as all the ladies like to remind me, “Fred Astaire had it easy. Ginger Rogers did all the same moves backwards wearing high heels”. Hard to argue with that! Hopefully someone will pinch your ass before the days over!

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Soft, Passionless&Clueless’14

      I can never dress up as a woman. Once when I was 12 my cousin and older sister convinced me to put make up on. My cousin did so too. Just to fuck around. I grudgingly did, then my cousin remarked, “Man, you would make a pretty girl” and that was just awkward enough for me to never do that again.

      Plus, my friend dressed up as a girl once to a party, and all the drunk guys kept making fun of him – so there’s that too.

      • CanadaBear

        I had a Dolly Parton mask (from a co-worker) and big round balloons in the obvious place. Never said a word to anyone for the first couple hours of the party. Just went around and rubbed my boobs on all the boys! Great fun!

  • Peanut FTW

    Atlanta and the Jets are horrible teams, a combined 3-13 record. And we got fairly lucky against the 9ers. That is how we are 3-5.

    • BerwynBomber

      I would add that Niners weren’t playing all that well then either. And to take nothing away from Fuller’s game, Kapernick helped us a ton that evening.

  • Peanut FTW

    I don’t think it will happen, I have lost faith in this team; but this staff should make this whole season about this Green Bay game. If they can some how steal a win in Green Bay… look at the rest of the schedule. Lions and Queens twice. TB.. the only 2 teams left that are good teams are the Saints and Dallas. Both are warm weather dome teams that will be playing here, in December, outside; on the sod.
    So.. after Lambeau they are all winnable games. I think they blow it Sunday, beat the easy ones down the stretch and wind up 8-8 but you never know.

    • TheBigCheesy

      I don’t know if Detroit on thanksgiving is any more winnable than Green Bay in week 9. Probably, but not by a ton.

      • Peanut FTW

        Detroit is still detroit until the season is over and they are in the same spot. They always find a way to piss the season away and play like the kitties again.

        • CanadaBear

          Normally I’d agree with this but this year seems like their year. They are getting every break in the book. Not unlike our miracle 13-3 year under Jauron.

          • BillW

            They may be developing a winning attitude.

          • Cormonster

            Funny you said that. I told my Lions friend the same thing last Sunday after they won. The 2001 Bears got some big breaks that year.

          • johnnywad

            Like committing a delay of game penalty as you miss a field goal as time expires that you then get to rekick and thereby win the game. Old Lions get that the other way around. I’m still pissed about that. Let’s say there’s a Chicago Miracle down the stretch and we end up missing the playoffs due to that Lions win. That would really suck.

        • TheBigCheesy

          I know that’s what you’re depending on, and I don’t necessarily disagree with you, but I really don’t know this year. They are winning without Calvin Johnson. And they swept the Bears last year. And they beat Rodgers this year for the first time ever (excluding the game he got knocked out in).

    • CanadaBear

      The Kitties might smoke us both games. Who knows which teams show up when we play Cowgirls and the Aints? Unless the weather in GB is horrible or Rodgers re-aggravates his hammy, don’t know how we win that one. Here’s hoping!

      • Trac

        About the only team we may have a sure win is Minny and Tampa.

        • BerwynBomber

          Don’t be surprised if Minny gives us a tough game or two. Zimmer has them playing reasonably competent D.

    • BerwynBomber

      As others have noted, beware of Detroit. They are winning games under Caldwell that they used to lose under Shorts. I’m not even sure Caldwell is that a good of a coach, but if nothing else the man in an adult. Shorts was not.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Two straight games this team was not ready to go on game day. “F” it is.

  • BillW

    Here’s the real question then. If the coaches get an F, what indication is there that they will improve?

    Second question – what grade do we think they need to have to make the Bears a super bowl contender?

    Lastly – even if they improve, will they reach that grade?

    When we assess situations at work we ask such questions. After proper discussion – without over analyzing – we act. The one thing we NEVER do is simply hope things get better.

    Trestman should be coaching for his job.

    • BerwynBomber

      Given that there is no Denver or dominant team in the NFC, I think solid B’s (and above) might have us in contention.

  • BerwynBomber

    The run D has improved so I would be willing to comp Tucker a C, maybe even a C+. Every other unit’s disciplines are down from last year. Or so it seems.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      I disagree. I’d rather give him an F, because the run D is improved.
      The run D has improved because the DL has quality. He should play nickel behind it and blitz with the CB and S.

      Stopping the run exposes that much more his lacks on pass D and blitzing.

  • Trac

    Jeff, at this point I don’t think the San Fran win means much. Just sayin.

    I also agree with the F. No way this team, these players should be 3-5.

    • SC Dave

      The game is played on the field, by the players

      • Trac

        You’re right to a point. NFL players will tell you that in college their athletic abilities carry them but when you get to the NFL that I simply isn’t enough. This is where coaching comes in. Players need to be continually coached up in the NFL. From what I can’t tell, this ain’t happening.

        • SC Dave

          I agree on the *learning* part. But all this bullshit about “fire” and “attitude” is more up to the players than the coach.

  • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

    Speaking of bad coaching: anonymous D1 OL coach rips the offensive coaching based on watching the film from last week: “My guys could be less talented players, but they would never perform like this crap”

    http://dabearsbeat.com/2014/10/31/after-further-review-bearspatriots-offense/

    • Trac

      That was a great read my man. Just like I told dave, the players aren’t being coached up. Our offensive line is clueless st times. This is why I gave them a D. Thanks data.

      • SC Dave

        Quoting from the article:

        “I go back to my first sentence. Effort: when the team feels the first signs of adversity, they collapse like a house of cards. This isn’t championship quality performing or coaching. This isarrogance: the players want the ball, they think they deserve to be good, but they don’t attack their assignment, whether it is running a route, grabbing the ball out of the air, laying down a block, or getting to the second level. It’s shameful.”

        This is by far more on the players than the coaches. At least the veteran players.

        Far too much talk about how “great” the Bears players are. It goes on here all the time. THEY have to make the plays. THEY have to pu tin the supreme effort. Did Butkus, Payton, Hampton, Brown, Urlacher, etc, etc. have to be TOLD to make the effort?

        And most damning of all? The very next sentence:

        “My film review of both offense and defense is full of this overconfidence that the players can just walk on the field and have a win handed to them.”

        The only coaching that fixes that is benching and cutting from the team. And I suppose that has been a problem in Chicago for a long time.

        • Trac

          Reading between the lines dave, they think they’re skilled enough and don’t do their homework. Lazy or confused.

          • SC Dave

            Perhaps they are, more than anything, too “conflict averse”? Not wanting to rock the boat by calling out certain players for being too entitled?

            Just speculating here, of course. I’ve spent no time at all in the Bears locker room or at Halas Hall

  • Bears-4-Ever

    Couldn’t agree more Jeff.

    • Teddy Agrees

      Me too!

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Soft, Passionless&Clueless’14

        Low-level mob lawyer. The guys who rob butcher shops for meat and scrap metal.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Soft, Passionless&Clueless’14

    “F” for FAILURE.
    A, B, C, D…skip E cuz that’s too good.
    Straight “F”. Or “F-”

    This was a team with at minimum Wild Card aspirations. Even on L.A. radio they were debating which was more of a dumpster fire, the Jets or the Bears.
    They concluded the Bears because, and I quote, “Anyone with half a brain could see the Jets were going to be bad again. But the Bears, with all those weapons and tradition of defense…by far more disappointing.”
    That’s right, Neutral cities are now comparing us to the those clown shoes.
    Thanks, coaches!

    • BerwynBomber

      True but “the tradition of defense” line is an example of out-of-town stupid. No one with a brain thought that tradition would equate to this D.

      • Scott W.

        Man, I don’t know what the answer is. I know that as I mentioned to Dave up above (down below, wherever, depending on your sort method), this is a debacle we will be talking about for years, like the Wanny and Jauron years.
        Straight up, do you, or does anyone, see ANY hope with the current admin?
        Beuller? Bueller?

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Soft, Passionless&Clueless’14

        Yeah, I think that’s in most non NFC N cities. Bears are synonymous with defense, and that’s sorta a fall back, but they did mention the signings of Houston and Allen, and how they would be healthier this year. But mostly, much like us, they couldn’t believe the offense would underachieve so much. It’s odd – it almost sounded like what we talked about on Da Blog for weeks now, blasting from L.A. sportscasters that almost exclusively discuss the Lakers.

        Just made me think how this year’s disappointment isn’t just a rose-colored Bears malady, that others outside the market believed this team wouldn’t bomb like it did.

        Much like the Falcons and Texans last year. And those teams, like us, were labeled soft.

    • Scott W.

      I hate this post. But thanks for posting it. I was going to vote it down, but that would be shooting the messenger. The message was accurate and nauseating.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Soft, Passionless&Clueless’14

    I also think we should fire Tucker and DeCamillas immediately.
    Promote someone from within for D-cord. Was Herring supposed to be “Old School”?, or was that Hurrt? Either way, I think “Old School” is just what this D needs. Can’t possibly be worse, and even if it is, so what? At least we get rid of tucker.
    We should poach whoever is assisting Toub, or whomever he recommended once upon a time for specials. Again, working under the theory “it can’t be worse” unless you’re gonna grade them “G”

    • Cormonster

      Greek Theater in LA has a fantastic lineup tomorrow night. Tedeschi Trucks Band and Gary Clark, Jr. will knock your socks off.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Soft, Passionless&Clueless’14

        I think Queens of the Stone Age performed tonight, and Danny Elfman. But tomorrow I have like 4 parties to attend (I aint driving, so I’m just gonna go along for the ride lol), or else I’d prob check it out. Greek Theatre is a classic venue.

        • Cormonster

          Have fun at the parties.

  • Scott W.

    Again, this is an infuriating case of PE trying to be clever instead of smart. He was given carte blanche, and gave the fans this mess in return.
    Just because he hit on a couple of draft picks doesn’t make him a good GM. Trestman & co. get outcoached every week.
    He and Emery both are just big mistakes.
    Fire them all.

    • SC Dave

      sigh. In favor of whom?

      • Scott W.

        Dave, I’m just a fan. I have no aptitude for running or coaching an NFL team.
        My opinion, as a mere lowly fan, is that Emery and Trestman are failures. They promised to deliver – and are paid millions to do so – a competitive, quality football team in Chicago.
        They have done the opposite.
        They have failed to deliver even some degree of hope that the team will become highly competitive.
        Tell me I’m wrong. Show me.
        They are doing an extremely poor job of doing what they were contracted and paid well to do.
        I don’t know who would replace them. All I can see is that they are failing spectacularly.
        Fire them. All of them. Find anyone that can get the team better. I don’t care who it is.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      That’s insane. Emery is money. He’s as big time as they come.

      • Scott W.

        Yep. Couldn’t agree more. It’s insane.
        He is effectively the CEO of the team side of the house, and so far, his decisions have driven the stock straight into the ground.
        Need a real world example? Look at the short tenure of Delta Airlines CEO Leo Mullin.
        If you take a company that is climbing and hire people that throw it off the cliff, you get fired.
        Or, you’re the Chicago Bears GM.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          we were climbing with Lovie???

          • Scott W.

            Did I say we were? We flatlined under Lovie.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          There are 2 parts of a GMs work. Personnel acquisition and organization culture. He has been the best in the NFL in bringing in new personnel, but he has been lacking in creating a winning contagious culture. He needs time there… especially when we’re laking about a losing franchise like the Bears, who’s made the playoffs once every 4 years, the last 20 years.

          • Scott W.

            Good summary barb. My contention is that Emery has degraded the defense and hired a head coach that was not up to the task at hand.
            Trestman was given a dream list of offensive personnel to win with, and they are 3-5.
            It is inexcusable. He has had time. He was the wrong choice, and Emery just flat blew it.
            I’m sure they are both nice guys, but so is my neighbor.

  • BerwynBomber

    Btw, meant to post this last Sunday night, but Brady/Manning still > Rodgers/Brees. And that’s no slight on the latter pair, just that the old dudes are still a tier above them, especially when one considers their accomplishments and longevity. Don’t know if there is anyone playing currently who will ever match the old geezer’s accomplishments. Luck would be the best bet if I had to choose.

    • Scott W.

      Damned well said, and justified.

  • BillW

    Theo praises his manager but replaces him when someone clearly better is available. Loyal to the organization rather than an individual he said.

    Your move McCaskeys (at year end) . . I know for a fact GSH would not tolerate how soft his Bears have become under Trestman. . Let’s see if it’s acceptable to the McCaskeys. My thought – they prefer this way.

    • johnnywad

      Right there with you all the way to the last sentence. Why would any owner prefer their professional football team to be soft?

      • BillW

        That might have been too harsh. . But do you see the McCaskeys as “football people”? I don’t. . I don’t know which one it was who used to sing” orange and blue – cover 2″ to the tune of Edelweiss, but that’s how I think of them.

        They hated Ditka, loved Jaron and Lovie and probably love Trestman. . They seem to like that style.

    • BerwynBomber

      Different situation. There was nothing that warranted Renteria’s firing except the availability of the newest model. Theo and company have now burned thru two managers in a very short time. The Cubs, like the Yanks, BoSox and Dodgers, can probably get away with this because they are huge market cash cows. But any other organization would be thought of as weasels to treat their employees this way.

  • Trac

    GP will be pleased to know that his buddy Teddy Ballgame has finally spoken on Da site. Yup, he knows that Phil and Tresty are winners because they handle adversity well. Phew, what a relief, all is well. hahaha

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