• Viva

    Looking ahead to the 2015 season we will face the NFC and AFC West. Let’s see: Denver, San Diego, KC, Oakland, San Fran, Seattle, St. Louis, and Arizona. That smells like 1 – 7 to me, so we got that going for us.

    (For those of you who have never been to Seattle to watch a game, if the Bears play there I highly recommend you attend. I was at the last game the Bears played there and it was awesome. Went rafting the day before with 15+ friends from high school.)

    • DaBearsBlog

      Home
      Detroit, Green Bay, Minnesota, Arizona, San Francisco, Denver, Oakland, NFC East*

      Away
      Detroit, Green Bay, Minnesota, St. Louis, Seattle, Kansas City, San Diego, NFC South*

      • Viva

        This is what I like to refer to as an opportunity. Make Seattle happen. DBB fans across the globe can counter the 12th man.

      • johnnywad

        That reads about 2-14 in the Bears’ present state.

    • BearDown100393

      Which is louder: Arrowhead or Seattle?

      • Bears-4-Ever

        Arrowhead would get my wife’s vote since she has lived in Seattle and has gone to many a game there. We went to see the Giants Play KC a few years ago and she said it was stupid loud there compared to even Seattle. I swear they pump the crowd noise through the big speakers there. The locals, in the section we were sitting, were all wearing ear-plugs.

        • Cormonster

          Been to the Metrodome for a few games. Shitty dome, and they obviously pump noise into that place. 90% of the people would be sitting in their seats in their dress clothes, yet the place would be loud as hell.

    • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

      And if you do, look me up. Let’s have a NW Blog Party. I live adjacent to 50 square miles forest. We have bonfires regularly. Come one come all.

      • CanadaBear

        Let’s talk about this when it gets a little closer. My Beloved Bride might not want to go to the game due to the noise (and she couldn’t care less about football) but I’m sure she’d be up for a road trip!

  • Viva
    • i think that would quiet cries of emery picking another guy with no HC experience. but i’d be surprised to see him go that route if, in fact, he does fire/hire this offseason. would think he’d play it safer.

  • GPLDAN

    I’m pleased to see the MSM narrative be that Emery needs to go.

    Emery senses it, as well. That’s why he has been vocal about Trestman making all the decisions during his NBC interview. And how angry he was about Kromer. And how he would have fired Kromer if it was up to him. That is corporate distancing 101.

    • BearDown100393

      More reason to fire him. The Bears don’t need a sniveling GM out to only save his hide. They need an actual NFL football guy who knows how to build a team from the ground up, build a system and re-tool it every off season.

  • wreckinball

    Voted yes because it’s turned out so bad.
    But I don’t think it will happen.

    Still unsure if Trestman is going to get fired

  • Shady

    I think the headline “Poll Question: Can Phil Emery Survive the Hiring of Marc Trestman?” and the ACTUAL poll question “Was Hiring Marc Trestman a Fireable Offense For GM Phil Emery?” will confuse the easily confused.

    … Which reminds me of this Simpsons clip:

    • that’s some frank luntz shit right there.

    • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

      Ha!

  • ErikGrogan

    We would not have these players if not for Emery- Marshall, Bennett, Houston, Allen, Ratliff, Young,Bushrod, Jeffrey, Long, Fuller, and a few others.

    I would keep him. He’s added some great talent in a small amount of time.

    • BearDown100393

      I could live without Lamarr Houston and his ACL tearing sack celebration.

    • TheBigCheesy

      Houston and Allen are supposed to be positive additions?

      • BillW

        In fairness – Emery felt he was on “fast-forward”. He was trying to build with a win-now attitude and so he took some big risks. The offense went from zero to hero in one year (though now…) so he tried to do the same with the D. Under the circumstances, I give him credit for that.

        NOW – I say we rebuild methodically and make the Bears before the team and league’s centennial.

    • Bears-4-Ever

      Marshall was more Cutty’s doing I think and a no brainer since the two have a connection and it was proven in Denver. Long, & Fuller were no brainers since we needed to fill holes and they were the best available at the time. Allen was a stupid bust…I said it when he was first picked up…he is NOT a game changer and he’s proved it this season. You role the dice when you draft folks and pick up FAs…Emery’s record using your list is average in my opinion…now you through in the HC choice of Trestman…and you are straight down the shitter.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Long and Fuller were far from no-brainers….They were not considered the best available at their own positions, let alone on the board at the time they were picked. Also, Re: Jared Allen, he has provided pressure in spurts and according to data we have an out on his contract after this season, and the Trestman hire had at least one decent year to it. Trestman lost the locker room this year and it’s unfortunate but not a fireable offense for Emery.

        • Bears-4-Ever

          “spurts” is not close to good enough. Long and Fuller might not have been statistically the best available sure, again no matter how good you are in college it’s still a question mark for the NFL and they turned out great. Emery might be better then JA was but he’s not impressive. He won’t be fired, not this year anyway, he’ll be given another season to make things better. I think you can take that to the bank.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            I agree with your assessments, if Emery can finagle Harbaugh away from the 49ers, he will be able to stop the bleeding and buy himself some more time.

          • John Doe

            Harbaugh is not moving his family. He will take up Raiders job across the town.

            And, surprisingly, Raiders offer a better opportunity. Derek Carr and company are moving in the right direction.

          • Bears-4-Ever

            As much as I’d love to see Harbaugh on the Bears sidelines again, I must agree…unless the Bears offer him the moon and stars…and that’s a long shot…he’ll be going elsewhere.

    • DaMurph

      Youre kidding, right Erik? Long a second rnd talent, shoulda took Mosley instead of Fuller, Bushrod overpaid after watching him play, Allen on the downslide, Houston no way elite yet paid like he is elite, Bennett a head case I think is disruptive to the team. I can go to the grocery store and pick up a lot of ingredients, quality ingredients, after I put them together and the dish sucks, it means Im a BAD cook! Emery is a bad cook, he bought the ingredients but the team sucks and leaves a bad taste in our mouth!

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        Emery is only buying the ingredients. He is not the one cooking. Seems to me the OC and DC weren’t using the right cook books.

        • Scharfinator

          Damn. That metaphor got wrecked.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            yep, couldn’t help myself. but emery did hire the cooks.

        • DaMurph

          It was all his plan to build a team, from head coach on down to the players, most of this falls squarely on Emerys shoulders.

    • johnnywad

      True enough, but there would likely be other talent or perhaps even some of the same under a more qualified GM.

  • BillW

    I voted yes and then had second thoughts. Writing survey questions is a lot harder than it looks. As the question is literally stated, the answer in my opinion is no. A GM can make a mistake – even a big one – and still be good. It’s the body of work that gets him fired, not one thing.

    Now – his body of work looks pretty good but we’re comparing him the Jerry Freakin’ Angelo. Whoop de Frickin’ Doo! He’s brought in some good players – well…. isnt’ that what he’s SUPPOSED to do?

    In the end, whoever said he should be fired for being a weasel and setting up Trestman is right – that should show them he doesn’t have it.

    • SC Dave

      Then there’s the giant dice roll on Cutler.

      • 90812y891273g189gu789

        Is there anything to you at this point beyond your strange fixation with Cutler? Did he bone your wife?

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Yes on the fixation – but personal foul on the last remark.

          • CanadaBear

            Pretty sure if he knew Dave’s history he wouldn’t have said that.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    I voted yes because of our Ownership…I think if Emery was with another team he would be in the hot-seat right now. He might be but I have a feeling he’ll be back next year. It’s all about accountability and if the Ownership doesn’t hold him accountable he really has no worries.

  • BillW

    I find this interesting for some reason:
    The Trib has yet to report Berstein’s claim that Trestman will likely be fired.

    I caught the tail end of Bernstein’s show and in talking with Holmes he said he and Boers got that from separate sources. And in talking about it he didn’t use the word “likely”. He said Trestman WILL be fired.

    And yet the Trib has decided not to say anything. Are they being petty? Or do have different information? I suspect the latter. Not that Trestman is safe -but that no decisions have been made and he could very well survive.

    I don’t trust this organization. I can see them being stubborn and feeling they are being “told” what to do by the media and do the opposite.

    • DaBearsBlog

      Problem with Bernstein is he’s full of shit.

      • BillW

        I’ve reached the same conclusion. Well, not just now, but in this case I think his “information” is mostly hearing what he wants to hear.

        • GPLDAN

          He and Boers have the most insular shit-eating grin show on radio. I listen to Mully in the morning, and sometimes Holmes in the evening (although I think he’s a sub-par intelligence) but I can’t take Bernstein.

          • BillW

            Me either – I rarely tune in and when I do I feel dirty.

          • BerwynBomber

            Boers is such a lapdog/yes man. His only purpose is to support Bernstein’s opinions and repeat every other sentence to fill time. That said, I can’t listen to Mully or Holmes either. Mully might have the worst fake laugh I have ever heard on sports radio (and unfortunately uses it frequently) and Holmes has absolutely no wit. McNeil was the best host who ever worked there but unfortunately he didn’t want to work and was not dependable.

  • BillW

    And one more point about empty seats. Blogfather claims that has no impact on ownership and he was told that by a source who either is an owner or close connections to a team.

    Financially, no. Of course not. But Holmes was at the game and said the announced 10,700 no shows SEEMED very low. Now maybe a lot of people stayed downstairs you can get a pretty good view of the field and be out of the rain). And maybe 11,000 out of 60,000 looks bigger than you’d think. But he said the stadium looked pretty empty.

    I also read somewhere that it was not mentioned or even shown on TV. I only saw the second half so I don’t know. Conspiracy-sounding, but the claim was the NFL tells the network (ESPN in this case) don’t damage the product since they are sensitive to people not thinking it’s worth showing up.

    All in all I still hold very firm to my belief that no shows matter to ownership. Again, for the last time NOT financially. Obviously. But a bunch of no-shows is the equivalent of the fans giving ownership the finger. “You are NOT worth the time and effort it takes to get here and watch”

    And wait until Sunday when we hear “Let’s Go Lions” or whatever they chant loud and clear..

  • John Doe

    Cutler punking Bears again. His last two pressers after Kromer incident have been with him wearing his Vandy cap and nothing Bears related at all. Nice thank you to company that is paying him $54 million guaranteed. What a professional he is.

    Rosendoom thinks this is a sign he could demand a trade. I continue to believe he will end up with Shanahan. Either Shanahan will be hired here or he will get HC job somewhere else and trade for Cutler.

    Is Jay Cutler’s fashion statement a message to Bears?
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosenblog/chi-bears-jay-cutler-vanderbilt-cap-20141217-column.html

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      He always wears his Vandy cap….

      • John Doe

        No he doesn’t. I have seen almost all his Bears pressers. He used to wear them rarely when times were good.

        • BillW

          Can’t really say one way or another but I know that when I saw it lately (his 30 second presser maybe post game?) I noticed it right away. Now if he always wears it, I don’t think it would have seemed odd to me.

          • John Doe

            He is a master at this sort of thing. It was a deliberate decision and not casual or mere coinicidence.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            idiot.

          • CanadaBear

            If he wore a hat that said the McCaskeys suck cock it would be a big deal. Wearing a hat from your alma mater is hardly some huge insult. BTW, who fucking cares about this shit?

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            I noticed it last year, he wore it a ton during his radio show and I could have sworn during postgame.

          • BillW

            I never saw him wear it when listening to his radio show. (joke)

          • BillW

            You had to know some smart ass was going to say that. You walked into that like the pig in a blanket.

          • Bear Down in Tampa
    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      Seriously??? people are actually trying to speculated on clothing. oh no he is wearing a Vandy hat… it must mean he hates the Bears. what a load of shit! Brandon Marshall wore a suit that looked like a table cloth earlier this year. That must mean he is going to retire and become a chef or a waiter.

      • GPLDAN

        This kind of press masturbatory frenzy is par for the course when a team has exploded as spectacularly as the 2014 Chicago Bears have.

        • Scharfinator

          Post of the season?

          • SC Dave

            Especially including the verb “exploded” in the context of masturbation. Well played, GP!

      • huntinbare

        I remember that and all it did was make me hungry.

    • wreckinball

      Don’t think he’s punking. It’s just his typical don’t give a shit asshole routine. When you are playing as bad as he is it doesn’t come off too well.

  • BillW

    In Brad Biggs grades today, he brings up the INT intended as a long pass to Jeffery. A commenter disected the play very well and essentially pointed out that there was no threat on the other side of the field. So Cutler could not really look off the safety and the play was already in trouble. So he trusted his arm and Jeffery to fight for the ball.

    The same commeter said that the messed up coaching staff has Cutler in a bad spot. Trestman at one time called him out for checking out of running plays. Then Kromer calls him out for NOT checking out of running plays. And then a bad play design gives him two options – wing it and hope for the best or yet another checkdown to Forte.

    Now in the situation (3rd and 3) the Forte option is CLEARLY the right one. But I get the idea – a lot is going on here that contributes the disfunction.

    • huntinbare

      Sounds like they are double teaming Cutler.
      I read alot of opposing defensive comments this year saying the Bears are easily predictable and if their execution is solid they fell they will have great success in shutting us down.
      This is an indictment on the coaches.
      If you are an O player lined up against a D that is schemed perfectly time after time you have to be a bit deflated ; and begin to wonder and get your confidence shaken.

    • John Doe

      Till the Dolphins game, Trestman did give options to Cutler at LOS and he did check out of whatever few running plays were called.

      After the Dolphins game, they took away options from Cutler. Obviously he did not like that. So he quit checking out of bad plays either and just run the play that was called regardless of the situation. He is after all a spoiled brat and a punk.

      So yes, both Trestman and Kromer were right when they said what they said. The play that Kromer bitched about to Rapoport, the one where Forte was dropped for a loss of 6 yards against the cowboys, was especially egregious. The CB (I think Brandon Carr) came to LOS well before the snap and Cutler should have checked out of it. Even Phil Simms said it was bad and perplexing decision. Bears were lucky that it didn’t result in fumble because Carr was there to tackle Forte right when Cutler handed him the ball.

      Making these kind of decisions should be routine for a nine year veteran QB.

      • BillW

        Agree with the brat and pun k part. But still if the coach, OC, and QB are not on the same page, shit will happen.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Hah – you are so inconsistent, it’s laughable.

          • BillW

            ?? Not that I doubt you but I don’t see it. Enlighten me so I can correct myself.

          • BillW

            Looking for it – can’t see it. I said “a lot is going on here that contributes to the dysfunction.” And that if the OC, HC, and QB are not on the same page, shit will happen. I’ve given up on Cutler this year, I’ve long said Trestty is unqualified, and the Kromer deal is pretty new but seems like the whole thing is really messed up – not just one party. Where is the laughable inconsistency? Seriously – if I’m talking in circles I’d like to know.

          • BillW

            OK – so maybe it’s the last thread when I said Cutler made a bad decision on the play I describe above. I see it now. At the time I put all the blame on Cutler for locking in on Jeffrey and not looking off the defender.

            Today I got more information in the comment I referenced and recognized there is a lot more going on than just Cuter. And so I appear to be inconsistent (laughably apparently – glad to provide the humor since we all need it).

            Actually I’d call it getting and processing more information. None of which makes Cutler a better decision maker in my eyes.

          • BillW

            You DO understand that my comment above was quoting (actually parphrasing) the Trib commenter – right? Or did you read too fast?

            This part was my comment:

            Now in the situation (3rd and 3) the Forte option is CLEARLY the right one. But I get the idea – a lot is going on here that contributes the disfunction.

      • Scharfinator

        Source?

      • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

        Glad to see you’re okay. A body of a guy with your name just turned up at the morgue. Be safe man.

  • GPLDAN

    Ditka interviewed by the Sun Times today.

    As one might expect, it’s full of strong conviction yet manages to be self-contradictory. He has strong passions, but he’s too senile to know about what. He vacillates between his duty to the coaching fraternity by saying it’s all about how bad the players are, and then wonders why the defense had no idea where to line up and looked like they were lost.

    He then concludes with his obligatory back handed shots at the McCaskey family and ownership.

    All in all, a good read while on the shitter, if so inclined.

    • BillW

      I’m inclined to be on the shitter more and more as I get older. Constipation has not been a problem since I’ve aged thank you.

      • GPLDAN

        TMI Bill.

        TMI.

    • wreckinball

      Ditka is great. At least he trys to say something even if he contradicts himself. In any event its entertaining versus many of the talking heads who say nothing. Charles Barkley also comes to mind.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    The Chicago media is piling on because Jay Cutler refused to give them access after a MNF game and he has a history of being brash with them. Why does he need to be cordial, this isn’t a tea party, it’s the NFL. Give it a rest.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      maybe if the Chicago media showed up to the press conference on time they could have asked him questions.

      • BillW

        think it was a set up. I watch post game on CSN always. Trestman is ALWAYS first, then Jay. And usually later in the show. Miller etc were surpised themsleves that it was Jay and so soon. The put Jay on first intentionally – knowing there would be no one there. Jay seemed surprised so I don’t think he was in on it but who knows. Anyway, the press had no way of knowing they were going to put Jay on so soon.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          That makes no sense. The press was not there when they started. They were late no matter who was on the podium to talk. If Trestman was first it probably would have went the same way for him. Either way the media was late getting there. you can’t fault anyone but the media.

          • BillW

            Do you watch postgames? I’m not being snarky – that’s a serious question because this one was VERY much against what they have done forever. The press wasnt’ there because they didn’t know it had started. They were still in the locker room 200 feet away. Many were running (though hopefully not Biggsy.) Of sourse it was intentional. You don’t change up the order and timing of the two press conferences – not tell anyone until it starts – and say it’s the media’s fault.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            The ESPN reporter did not have a problem being there.

          • BillW

            You have a point in that the room was literally not empty; but it seems unlikely that the Chicago media knew Jay would be up first and early at that and chose not to attend but then began to run when they found out it had started. That has never happened.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            Sorry i am never going to defend a reporter, since it is basically their job to expect the unexpected, and to be where they need to be on time. Pretty sure those press conferences times are announced, granted they might not always start on time, they still need to be there at the announced time just in case this exact thing happens, because it’s their job.

          • BillW

            Again, I trust Biggsy on this one. It was at best a Bears media screw up.

          • BillW

            OK, I don’t mean to beat a dead bear, but one more comment. It was not Biggsy I read but Campbell…

            http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-jay-cutler-press-conference-confusion-20141215-story.html

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            The only way i am going to give any credence to anything that a reporter has to say on this topic is if it is reported that the Bears did not follow proper NFL protocol on the announcement of the press conference. If it turns out that the Bears failed to post/announce the press conference through proper NFL requirements then the reporters got a case. But from where i am sitting, it appears to be lazy reporters, not doing their jobs. So good for the Bears for changing things up because the chicago press has been historically negative against the organization. Right now articles like this sounds like that time in High School when a teacher never gives a pop quiz gives a pop quiz and all the students complain because it never happened like this before and its not fair and not their fault for failing at their job.

          • BillW

            Good point. Though it sounds like you agree the Bears may have zinged the media by changing things up.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            i don’t believe i have argued against that possibility. my main argument has always been against the reporters for not doing their jobs, and not showing up on time.

          • BillW

            I get it. Peace.

          • CanadaBear

            The local media was in the locker room with Nessman. Who fucking cares what the media has to deal with at a football game? All they were going to get was the exact same sound bites they’ve gotten for weeks.

        • BerwynBomber

          Not to sound too conspiratorial but I took it as a PE/Cutler move that was effectively a bye-bye to Tresty.

    • wreckinball

      Playing bad and with his demeanor he is going to catch zero breaks. Brees has not had the greatest year but just his demeanor gets him off the hook. Play good and you can have any demeanor you want. See Marshawn Lynch.

    • BerwynBomber

      Chicago media is “piling on” Jay because he played bad. Simple as that. And frankly he is getting a comparitively easy ride yet again. It is ALWAYS more the coach’s fault than Jay’s. That false narrative is still holding its course here.

      • SC Dave

        It is amazing how the excuses never end for him.

    • Scharfinator

      Give it a rest? Their job is to report on the NFL. The juicier the story, the better.

  • huntinbare

    Maybe Emery did not do his due dilugence in his background check of Marc. Marc exited Canada on a high note; but there were surely times when things were not as rosy. I wonder if the dirty side of Marc’s body of work were investigated enough to raise caution flags. How much weight did the Trestman nay sayers information carry in his calculation. Nobody has perfect record; and some of the grumbling about the way Marc’s shop is run could have come across Phil’s radar; but maybe he chose to ignore it based on Marc’s recent string of success. It is hard to tell how much frustration he is feeling because of his choice; but sensing the angst towards his choice of Marc; that alone has got to cause him some internal struggle over whether his thinking was flawed.
    Getting pushed around on the field all year; and having King George getting pushed by an opposing fan is life’s divine comedy. Maybe that shove was the impetus to unnerve King George enough to question everything and clean house.
    Emery only gets fired if George and Ted have lost confidence in him. I could see this happening; but I only feel that it will become reality depending on how many times Emery has had to hard sell his choices to the ownership. If he had to battle to sell Marc to the top brass I will say Yes; if they agreed with his thinking I believe Phil lives on to fight another day.

    • GPLDAN

      Canada is a nice place. Full of nice people. Who are nice.

      Not being polite is a very bad thing in Canada. The police come if you raise your voice to a cashier. They ostracize you if you don’t send Christmas Cards to your co-workers. You can be fined for having a bad sweater.

      In Canada, players do not tell you to fuck off so they can go open a BBQ restaurant. They do not tell the press that they will be on Inside the CFL and don’t bother telling their head coach the same news. That is impolite. It is not nice.

      Here in the United States, we think we should be allowed to bring firearms to stadiums. People are not nice. You are lucky if you are not assaulted while tail gating. Orange, after all, is the new black. Most of the players are convicts. By 2020, Roger will rename the game “Battledome” but not allow tackling just to prevent lawsuits.

      Marc Trestman was no more suited to the NFL than Carol Channing would be to the Mad Max wasteland.

      • huntinbare

        I enjoyed reading that , thanks. Not often Carol Channing and her ilk get a call on the blog

      • CanadaBear

        Fun read. We really aren’t that nice. Polite yes, nice no. I’m not that big of a CFL fan but Nessman had the best QB in the league and when you’re winning it’s all unicorns and rainbows.

  • wreckinball

    Two really bad moves.
    The HC sucks. Emery holds some of the blame but maybe not all since you don’t know what restrictions were placed on him.
    The QB situation is probably mostly all on him. Once the $$’s on the negotiating table got as high as they did you have to franchise Cutler. No brainer.
    Of the two really bad decisions the Cutler move was the most idiotic. The rest of the league knew who he was. No one else was going to give him that kind of money. Trestman was an unknown so if you sign an unknown sometimes it doesn’t work out so good. Like now.
    Emery has made some good draft decisions.
    I think he stays and its iffy to most likely Trestman will take the fall.

    • BerwynBomber

      Agree about the Cutty decision but I think Trestman and most of his staff are gone; in fact, I would be shocked if he survives.

      The big question for me is PE. I put his survival at 50/50. I could also see a situation where they bring in a “football czar” and PE serves as a neutered GM for a year and then is let go.

      • CanadaBear

        I agree except about the football czar. If they replace Teddy with an actual football guy, Emery is toast.

        • BerwynBomber

          He would become redundant for sure but I could see him being kept on an interim basis in a pinch.

          • CanadaBear

            Pretty sure the big guy would want to hire his own guy for GM. Who knows? If they hired someone like Ozzie Newsome from Cleveland, I’d be OK with his decision.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            Ozzie Newsome is the GM for Baltimore not Cleveland.

          • CanadaBear

            You’re right. Played for Cleveland. Either way, I’d love to see someone with his pedigree take over Phillips job on the football side and get a decent GM and coaching staff in here.

          • BillW

            Beside the point, but Ozzy was in the front office of the Browns before they moved, and then was promoted to GM shortly after the move. Truly worked his way up, paid his dues. Wasn’t Rooney Ruled into the job.

          • BillW

            And yes, I get the irony.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            was just pointing out to you old guys on Da Blog, that he is in Baltimore now in case senility is starting crop up and you guys are getting confused.LOL

          • BillW

            I keep forgetting the Rams are in St Louis so you are not wrong

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            don’t worry the rams will be back in LA soon.

  • Sactowns#1

    Emery has made some solid picks. Sure he made a couple head scratchers like Chicken Dinner and drafting a punter, but he has also mined for gold in Alshon, Long, and Fuller. And that was drafting in the teens and twenties. I’m sure he’ll have another solid draft this season plus make some more dazzling free agent moves…lets just hope this time more of them pan out like BMarsh and and don’t flop like Allen.

  • BillW

    Kinda early in the week for a prediction, but here is mine. If the Bears beat the Lions, Trestman stays.

    • wreckinball

      I’m going with just one more win which could also be MN last week and Trestman stays.

    • Sactowns#1

      It would take Halas coming back from the dead in order from Trestman to keep his job.

      • wreckinball

        That would be true for 31 NFL teams. This one? You may be right but most teams would have already dumped him mid-season. Trestman is not established (e.g. Coughlin) and the dumpster fire is roaring.
        This tells me he may hang on.

  • Sactowns#1

    Is it time for a Bring back Dave Toub campaign? I wouldn’t mind seeing Hue Jackson come to town either.

  • from Jeff’s tweet: Rodgers speaks up, defends Cutler, bashes Kromer and work environment in Chicago. Wowzers.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000445065/article/aaron-rodgers-baffled-by-kromers-jay-cutler-comments

    • I’m not gonna lie, a small part of me thinks this is Rodgers trying to keep Cutler in Chicago for selfish reasons.

      • John Doe

        No, this is just standard politics that happens in losing team and when people are about to get fired.

        Trestman and Kromer fed a lot of stuff to the ESPN guys knowing they are going to get fired. Jon Gruden and Steve Young have worked closely with Trestman in the past and have sat down with him for chat (unofficial) every time they had Bears on MNF.

        Gruden, Young, Dilfer and Lewis absolutely savaged Cutler on MNF during the game and after the game. It was brutal.

        So Jay called up his buddy Aaron Rodgers to bash Kromer. As I said, standard politics. Meh.

      • BerwynBomber

        Cutler is friends with Rodgers’ little brother Jordan. Rodgers asked Cutty to look out for his little brother when the latter accepted a scholarship at Vandy and Cutler showed the kid the ropes and Rodgers never forgot it. That is why if Rodgers is ever asked about Cutler he will say “Jay’s my guy”. It is also why you will also see them standing around and chatting as they did in the first Cheese game when one of Cutler’s near INTs in the second half was being reviewed and both offenses were on the field.

        Rodgers taking a strong stance in defense of Cutty is not surprising in the least.

        • BillW

          Your point on Rodgers brother is the main thing for sure. The writer pointed oout too the very small fraternity of NFL caliber QBs.

          I thought about that yesterday. Here’s a job where at your peak you can earn tens of millions of dollars. Plus endoresment money. And yet out of what? 7 BILLION people in the world there aren’t even 32 that can do it well?

          • BillW

            You know that Musberger regretted not trying to be one

          • Scharfinator

            I’m sure there are 100’s that can do it well. The opportunity, chances, fate, etc. put them down another path though.

        • BearDown100393

          Every time Jay takes the field against Green Bay, he looks out for Aaron Rodgers’ interests. Fault Cutler all you want, but you cannot deny his sense of loyalty.

          • SC Dave

            Zing!

  • I think this article headline and poll question are two different questions.
    Realistically, hiring Trestman was a fireable offense, especially given that Chicago basically had their pick of the litter that year and there were much more qualified candidates out there.
    But I think it is an offense that Emery CAN survive, especially given how loyal the Bears have been in the past. We’ll see.
    personally, I’d be fine with either move with Emery.

    • BillW

      Clearly the headline and the poll question do not match up. I read the poll question. I’m finding it better to ignore Jeff’s headlines. Don’t know if he writes them to get page hits or what. The one where he implied in the headline the Bears should get Cutler even more offense tools – when that was nowhere near his point – taught me that. Problem is., a lot of people don’t bother reading Jeff – which I think is not very nice.

  • unsure if anyone posted this yet, but bears holiday music:

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      cant even get Alshon’s last name correct. crappy fan.

      • I’m guessing that was intentional. Or at least hoping it was.
        Some of this was funny. Some made me sad to call myself a Bears fan and align with meatheads like him.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          it is the same guy that did the video of ‘Angry Browns Fan’ last year. so not a bears fan. agree some was funny and some made me sad

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            my bad it is a different guy- disregard previous post

          • Shady

            Who apparently just replaced “Browns” with “Bears” and made his own video. Lame.

            The “Jay Cutler I’m giving up on you” parody from Figaro is much better.

        • GPLDAN

          He’s like a self-parody of a superfan.

  • BillW

    US anbd Cuba will normalize relations.

    Wonder if they will go back to Cuban nightclubs? Carmen Miranda, Desi Arnaz. And of course “Superman”.

    • CanadaBear

      I should go down there before everything changes. Saw a doc on TV about capitalism coming to Cuba. Castro is allowing people to sell their houses/apartments. Everyone is going nuts. Things are changing rapidly in Cuba.

      • GPLDAN

        You broke my heart Fredo!

        (apologies to Butch for stealing that)

      • ran into a canadian dude when i was on my honeymoon. we spoke about cuba.

        “I hope you guys never lift the embargo,” he said.

        “Why’s that?”

        “Because then everything’s going to get so much more expensive. Right now I can go down for a week-long all-inclusive for a grand, flights included. That’ll change real quick with you jerks.”

        Note we were about 9 drinks in at this point, so it’s ok that he called me a jerk.

        • CanadaBear

          Most of the Canadian’s I know say the best thing about it was nobody from the States were there. Then they would remember I’m from the States originally and be kinda embarrassed. I always laughed. I knew what they meant. Most Canadians like Americans, just not the loud-mouthed, pushy, we’re the greatest types.

  • BillW
    • GPLDAN

      Shady – I’m sorry but that Webb Nation T-shirt I got you for Christmas will have to go….

      • CanadaBear

        You bastard!!!!!!!!!

  • CanadaBear

    Had to laugh about Conte willing to give up 10-15 years of living to play in the NFL. Easy to say when you’re in your 20’s. The comments have been funny. Most of them said they would gladly go at 75 vs 90 to play in the NFL. How ’bout 45 vs 60?

    • Scharfinator

      Agreed – when that 15 years happens is an important component of that question.

      • CanadaBear

        No kidding. Not to mention life gets a little more precious as you age. Trust me on that one!

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          no worries CTE will fry his mind by that time and he probably will want to die by that time.

          • CanadaBear

            I hope not but the way he goes about his job, it wouldn’t be a big shock. I actually like the guy. Nobody tries harder than him. He tries to bring the wood but usually hurts himself more than the other guy.

    • beninnorcal

      To further your point, Canada, anyone who says they’d be fine going at 75 instead of 90 would probably be whistling a different tune when they’re 74.

      • CanadaBear

        Exactly. Up until a few years ago I always said if I could make it to a healthy 75 I’d be happy. Now that I’m 62, 85 seems more reasonable!

        • BillW

          I resemble that remark precisely!

          • BillW

            Seriously, the concept of possibly having less than 20 years of a healthy life left is very upsetting. That’s my excuse for being an asshole at times.

          • GPLDAN

            Apologies in advance, but you had to see this coming:

          • BillW

            Are you saying the key to life is more cowbell?

        • beninnorcal

          Shoot for 100, Canada. My parents are 62 and living to 75 when you guys were born is probably like living to 90 now.
          You still have about 4 decades for our beloved Bears to shock the world again. Well I guess they kinda shocked the world in ’14, just not the way we wanted.

          • CanadaBear

            Thanks! Both of my parents died from heart attacks so I’m guessing that will be my undoing. Who knows? It’s all about genetics. If you’ve got good genes you can live a long time fairly healthy. Taking care of yourself makes a difference but if you have lousy genes you’re pretty well fucked.

          • BillW

            Both my parents died in their seventies. F that shit!

            Which reminds me of a George Carlin routine:
            “I lead Richard Pryor in heart attacks 2 to 1. He leads me in burning yourself up 1 to nothing.

            First Richard had a heart attack, and then I did. Then Richard burned himself up. I said F that, I’m having another heart attack!”

          • CanadaBear

            George was awesome. Once he quit doing all that clever but not really funny linguistic crap and went back to being a prickly bastard, he was hilarious. He might say some shit that pisses you off but at least he made you think. Usually while laughing. Loved Richard Pryor. That bit he did about his dad and the Exorcist was beyond funny.

      • BillW

        Some comedian said the secret to living to 100 is easy – get to 99 and then be real careful.

      • depends. am i still able to wipe for myself at 74?

        • CanadaBear

          Yeah, that’s why I always say healthy or fairly healthy. My biggest fear is Alzheimers. The thought of sitting around in a facility not knowing your ass from first base is frightening to me.

          • BillW

            Best thing about Alzheimers is you always are meeting new people.

        • beninnorcal

          Best part is going to be having other people do that for you. I’ve been waiting my whole life to not have to deal with that anymore. Kidding.

          • CanadaBear

            Time to install a bidet in your place!

          • beninnorcal

            Now we’re talking, but do they have ones with built-in dryers, that would probably feel awesome.

          • CanadaBear

            I think you’re onto something!!!!!!!!!

        • beninnorcal

          Anyhow, my point was that we are living longer than ever before. That’s a huge part of what’s wrong with our healthcare system, it’s predicated on us dying at some point.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            don’t worry i am sure euthanasia will be part of the healthcare system eventually.

          • CanadaBear

            I remember Palin talking about Obama’s death panels. You know somebody with her mental capacity would never lead you astray!

        • BillW

          Hah! He said Depends! I get it.

    • BearDown100393

      Conte’s stupid statement is enough evidence that he should retire immediately for medical reasons.

      • CanadaBear

        I thought it was a dumb thing to say but I got his point. If everyone on the Bears had his passion, we’d be a lot better off. Just wish he was a better safety.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          He’s like the anti-Steltz. It’s a shame.

        • BearDown100393

          Conte has a second career lined up already with Johnny Knoxville and Steve-O.

    • huntinbare

      Ignorance of youth or one too many to the coconut… When he gets some wisdom he will understand that the final curtain call was in no way influenced by any of “his” decisions.
      A wise man once said every experience is appropriate…. . that would include every nick and ding

    • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

      I don’t know, Canada. I think I agree with Conte. Maybe I’ll feel differently in 20 years, I don’t know. Maybe it has to do with money or fame. If I had Walters NFL life and died as young as he did, I’d be okay with it. If I had Conte’s career though, maybe even shaving 5 years off my life is too much. It’s not so obvious to me.

      • CanadaBear

        Get back to me when you’re in your 50’s.

        • AlbertInTucson

          There are part of growing older that suck but it STILL beats the alternative.

        • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

          I get it. I guess what I’m saying is I’d rather live a shorter life filled with fulfilled dreams while also being able to provide for my family in the way that NFL players can, than live a long life where I couldn’t. The risk is that you end up like Conte. Relatively little money and very little glory at the expense of a his long term health.

          I liken it to skiing, or whitewater rafting, or mountain biking. You’re taking a risk when doing these things. And the upside is not what the upside of the NFL is. I’m sure my body won’t feel like an NFLers body when I’m old, buy my body has been pretty well tore up because of these things. I’ll surely feel it when i’m older. I already do. But there’s no way I’d change any of it. My life has been full of adventure and fun. And what of the random skiier, say, who is unfortunate enough to die on the slopes, or become handicapped in some way? There’s risk in living life. You could just as easily end up being a health nut who never takes any chances and ends up dying from cancer. May as well live life. the rest will be what it will be.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m with ya all the way. I’ve ridden bicycles on the road all of my life and could get smoked tomorrow. My life without a bicycle would suck tremendously.

          • huntinbare

            I like the whitewater rafting part…I have a hope to do the grand canyon experience in the next few years…being involved with the handicapped community for the past 40 years; I am thankful every day for 4 limbs that work…they allowed a full and varied range of experience; but at 60 I underwent three major reconstructive surgeries and now mobility has been compromised…as well as certain activities eliminated. Freedom is challenged by Father time; but, I never once looked back and wished I could change the course.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Here’s hoping we’re still kickin’ then, Canada!

      • BearDown100393

        Ask his son and daughter if it was alright for their dad to pass away so young. When he cried at that presser, I did as well.

        • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

          WP didn’t die from his life in the NFL. But if the NFL was what killed him, i don’t think he’d have changed a thing. Just my opinion. And his kids? yeah, their father died while they were fairly young. Which is horrible, obviously. But due to their fathers legend, they get to share in his memory every day with millions who adored him. Many peoples fathers die young, and when they do, they’re just gone, forgotten by all but a few.

  • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

    I have MB’s proxy.

    He says Emery should NOT be fired. And then he said something about tits and kits.

    I say he should.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Tell that doooood to text me. I got news for him!

      • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

        Okay. Can you not text him yourself?

        • Shady

          Why don’t you just post his number on the blog so we can all check in with him and say ‘hi’… While you’re at it, why don’t you also post his full name, address, DOB, SS#, mother’s maiden name, city where he was born, the name of his 3rd grade teacher and the name of his first pet.

          Thaaaaaaaanks!

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            That’s a good plan. Maybe it will bring him out of hiding.

          • GPLDAN

            Don’t forget the name of his ex-wife. Because that would be fun.

          • Sactowns#1

            I would say the same thing for Irish but it would probably land you in Gitmo.

    • Shady

      And you have my proxy… To kick him in that fleshy patch where his nuts used to hang.

    • huntinbare

      Thanks for filling in ; professor ghost writer; happy holidays to you and the family and tell MB that he is missed and wish him a joyfull holiday …thanks

  • Scharfinator

    Trestman’s presser sounds like a doomed man. He knows he’s gone. I wondered if he was going to break at some point.

    • GPLDAN

      Like cry?

    • BearDown100393

      Vivre le Québec libre!

  • Trac

    Took my daughter to go shopping for clothes for Christmas. Now that is Love!

    • CanadaBear

      You’re a good man Trac. I go with my wife once in a while and it’s torture for me.

  • GPLDAN

    What happened to not letting the terrorists win? They hate us for our FREEDOM and all that Bush era chest puffing?

    http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/17/7412393/sony-cancels-the-interview-release-after-theaters-pull-out

    If a minority group or wingnuts don’t like a film, they protest and it goes nowhere.

    If a nation-state doesn’t like a movie and mobilizes a weaponized cyber-attack – well – in that case – everybody will run and hide in fear.

    Sorry to break the Trac accord – it takes a lot for me to break the politics barrier – but this is ridiculous.

    • BearDown100393

      Too bad the hackers didn’t break into the Bears email system and demand everyone to be fired and the McCaskeys to sell the team. That might’ve been worth while to having my freedoms violated by terrorist activity.

      • GPLDAN

        To: Marc Trestman
        From: Phillip G. Emery, Esq.
        Subject: grow the man

        Marc,

        If it’s alright with you, I went ahead and pulled the Christmas $500 Target gift card for Aaron. I mean, all things considered, I don’t think he deserves it, do you?

        Signed,
        P.

      • GPLDAN

        To: Bears Player List
        From: Marc Trestman
        Subject: lost pages

        Ok, which one of you tore all the running plays out of the coaches handbook? Was it you Matt?

        Signed,
        Marco

  • CanadaBear

    Just read Jeff’s tweet. Mich offered Hairball $48 mil/6 yrs. YIKES! Guess the Beloved won’t be going that direction. $8 mil/yr + all the endorsements. WOW! Not to mention all the under the table slush funds that he can cannonball into. It’s not unlike the Blues lyric, “If the river was whiskey, I’d be a diving duck. Swim to the bottom and drink my way back up”.

    • GPLDAN

      Jimmy,

      Check out this closet space!

      http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/5035-Fox-Ridge-Ct_Ann-Arbor_MI_48103_M33065-27821?row=5

      You want in. It’s gorgeous. Look at that yard! The wife will love it.

      • CanadaBear

        That might reduce the sting of moving from San Fran. Over 11,000 s.f. I’d have to leave a trail of bread crumbs or I’d get lost.

    • John Doe

      He can easily have best of both worlds. Get $8 million per year from Raiders and not have to move family.

      And Raiders seem to have had some good picks the last two drafts and look to be on the upswing. Right time to jump on that ride. Derek Carr has had a decent rookie campaign.

      • CanadaBear

        Good luck getting $8 mil out of the Raiders. Not to mention, endorsements would probably be another 2-4 mil and the slush funds could be epic.

        • John Doe

          We will see what happens. I think he is out of reach for Bears at $8 million per year.

          Don’t see Bears hiring $8 million per year coach after paying a bunch of money to Trestman to stay at home and after paying Lovie $5 million just last year.

  • AlbertInTucson

    So, the 49ers have set Ray McDonald adrift after a report that he is being investigated in ANOTHER sexual assault case.
    Of course, I’m SURE that the fact that Frisco was officially elimnated from the playoff hunt last weekend had no bearing on the deceision to release him.

    • CanadaBear

      Funny how that works.

  • Shady

    Santa CLAUSen!

    • BearDown100393

      Santa CLAUSen vs QB from Santa Claus.

  • John Doe

    Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter · 2m2 minutes ago
    To repeat and now confirmed: Bears starting QB Jimmy Clausen over Jay Cutler on Sunday vs. Detroit, per sources.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Can you IMAGINE the crapstorm if Clausen starts and puts some life into that heretofore moribund offensive unit?

  • John Doe

    More details leaked about Cutler contract that we did not know before.

    We knew $15.5 million for 2015 is guaranteed.

    We knew $10 million for 2016 becomes guaranteed on 3rd day of the 2015 league year i.e March 13, 2015.

    NFL Analyst and former GM Charlie Casserly disclosed on NFL Network yesterday that Cutler’s contract has offset clause. So if Bears cut him before March 13, 2015, they will owe him $15.5 million. But if some other team signs him, and it is highly likely that he will get signed somewhere if Bears release him, then whatever salary the other team pays Cutler will be deducted from Bears $15.5 million guarantee.

    Now if Kyle Orton got $5.5 million last year. I can see Cutler getting $8 million – $9 milliion. So Bears will owe him $6 million – $7 million. That will be the price to get rid of Cutler if they cannot trade him.

    If the new coach absolutely wants to get rid of Cutler, it is not as impossible as it seemed a few days ago.

    Watch the video below where Charlie Casserly explains this:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/video/trade-value-chicago-bears-quarterback-233038090.html

  • BearDown100393

    Jay’s been benched.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I’d have sat him at halftime on Monday.

      • John Doe

        Agreed. Who knows it may turn out to be his last Bears game.

  • John Doe

    I hope they give first half to Clausen and second half to David Fales.

    I am excited to see what this Fales kid has learned in these past few months.

  • Well, at least Cutler might not win the T.O. crown after all

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