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Phil Emery Deserves Another Off-Season But Coaching Call Will Determine GM’s Fate

| December 1st, 2014

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The way I see it, Phil Emery has two options in the month of December:

Option #1

Emery crucifies Mel Tucker for the sins of the 2013-4 Chicago Bears and throws his full support behind head coach Marc Trestman. This decision would most likely make 2015 a Deliver or Here’s a Cardboard Box, Put Your Things In It year for both the GM and coach.

Option #2

Emery plays politics, walks into a meeting with Ted Phillips and George McCaskey and admits that after an almost gloatingly exhaustive head coaching search he chose the wrong man. This decision would enable Emery to hire a second head coach and possibly buy him 2-3 more years on the job.

Stubbornness or self-preservation? Will Emery continue to display the same defensive tactics he utilizes to rationalize the drafting of Shea McClellin or will he recognize what is evident to every single objective observer: the Bears have the wrong man in charge.

As has been stated here previously, this is not a Bears team ready to rebuild. Cutler, Marshall, Jeffery, Bennett, Forte, Long, Bushrod, Slauson are the offensive corps in 2015. The defensive line and starting corners will more than likely be the same as well. Do the Bears need more secondary and linebacking and pass rush help? Of course. They need tons. But the way the current roster is constructed contractually there will not be a serious opportunity for roster turnaround until after next season (at the earliest) and more likely after the 2016 campaign.

Emery deserves one more off-season of talent acquisition to complete the picture he began painting in 2012.

  • 2012: Emery begins his work by adding Brandon Marshall and Alshon Jeffery. With one stroke of the brush the new Bears GM ended more than a decade of fan frustration with the Bears options at wide receiver. Emery ends the calendar year by relieving Lovie Smith of his head coaching duties.
  • 2013: Emery rebuilds the offensive line, the team’s biggest disaster, and adds a top NFL tight end in Martellus Bennett.
  • 2014: Emery took the worst run defense in the history of the organization and turned it around by rebuilding the defensive line. No, the Bears did not get the production they needed out of high-priced DEs but the team went from 32nd in 2013 to 12th in 2014 against the run & 31st to 8th in sacks. Where they have lacked is in scheme and coverage ability.
  • 2015: Emery’s attention must turn to coverage. He needs to add at safety, corner and linebacker. If he does that and makes a change at defensive coordinator there is every reason to believe this unit can make vast improvements.

But who will lead them? Emery can’t improve the roster in the next month. But his actions over that period may very well determine the short and long-term future of the Bears organization.

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  • BearDown100393

    Sorry, don’t agree. Emery double downed on Marc Trestman. Either both stay or both go. Emery hired Trestman. Why trust him on a second coaching hire? Who would Emery hire anyway? The head coach for the Calgary Stampeders? Would Bears ownership even allow Emery to fire Trestman? Does this season’s highest paid NFL player get a voice on a coaching hire?

    • DaBearsBlog

      I hate using the “this season’s highest paid” argument against Cutler. He is making that money “this season” in order to provide the Bears wiggle room after year 2.

      • TheBigCheesy

        Agreed, it’s such a misleading statement.. He’s definitely making a lot, but he’s not really the highest paid player. He’s maybe around 5th or 6th.

      • BearDown100393

        He hasn’t earned or deserved his old contract let alone this new one. The Bears owe him nothing. At the very most, Jay Cutler should have been franchise tagged instead of this current contract. It was not his play on the field that earned the new deal. Rather the decades of Chicago management’s inability to bring a quality quarterback to town, drove this deal. I don’t fault Jerry Angelo for pulling the trigger on the trade. It was a calculated risk. The porridge will never quite taste right for Cutler. Hiring and firing coordinators and head coaches is not going to change him. Cutler is who he is: A fundamentally flawed, back foot slinging veteran quarterback prone to turning over the football. And it should not be ignored that he is not a chosen captain of the team. The coddling and alibis produced on his behalf are insane. The Bears need to demonstrate a future plan that does not include Jay Cutler.

    • CanadaBear

      I’m not sure Nessman is a better coach than Hufnagel (the Stamps coach/GM). Just my luck, my CFL team has been in the Grey Cup 3 times in the last 6 years and won 2 of them. Of course, I really don’t care about the Stampeders so it doesn’t mean much.

  • NewBearInTown

    Traditionally in the NFL, GMs get two chances at picking a head coach. Head coaches get two chances at picking a starting QB. Highly drafted QBs get two chances at starting.
    Emery will stay and Trestman will go. This year or the next. I don’t see Trestman as the man in charge, I suspect Emery will see it the same way, but I don’t know what’s going on behind closed doors. Trestman could get one more year, but either way Emery will stick around. He’s done too much good work with the roster to not warrant a second chance.
    Shea is on a rookie contract. You don’t want to waste those so you try to keep him. Trestman is easier to set free.

    • SC Dave

      If fired, Trestman got zero chances at picking a starting QB. So clearly, tradition would scarcely be relevant in this instance.

      • NewBearInTown

        Actually that is not uncommon.

  • GPLDAN

    Emery has to let go of Houston, eat his money – dump Allen a year early, probably let Paea walk in his contract year (if he’s smart – Paea will almost certainly get hurt as soon as he is signed), and he has Willie Young, Sutton and Ego. That’s the base to build on. Maybe sign Rat for another year.

    We need linebackers and safeties. Get a corner in FA. We need a scheme change and DC change.

    Lastly, there is an Option 3 & 4:

    Option 3: Emery tries to save his skin by throwing Trestman and Tucker under the bus, George tells Teddy to clean house and he does, and Phil goes out with them. The exhaustive coach search and the mind-meld with Trestman shows both of them are dumb and dumberer.

    Option 4: Ginny tells George to push it even farther, moving Ted back to President and head beaner, and gets somebody in here like Shanny to be both GM and Coach and Ted stays completely away from football and just counts the money from selling funny hats.

    • Big Mike

      I have better hope for Houston and Allen. I like our front line. I’d sign Paea, Unless it was a choice between him and Suh. I agree on Rat, Young, Sutton and Ego. That’s a top line group. I think Allen stays. Looking at replacement cost as much as anything else. Need depth. Can’t hope to get lucky on another Willie Young type deal. Liked what I saw from Bass and Washington at DE. Still, I think Allen fits.

      As for the options, I think Tucker gets the boot and they stay the course with Emery and Trestman. It’s the most likely scenario short of a rebuild. D

      Priorities, Defensively – LB/S/CB Offensively – WR deep threat, Center, TE.

      Might add DE, but that’s not really a “weak link” could always be stronger.. Also I’m thinking about which position(s) should be targeted in FA? Depends on who is out there. Need to hit a little bit bigger in this draft than last year. I suspect not being 100% completely locked in to trying to rebuild one side of the ball, or the other could allow for some bigger hits.

      2014 draft looks like a strong one. Fuller, Sutton, Ferguson are very solid contributors and I believe show the promise of living up to and/or exceeding the value in their draft slot. I like Kadeem Carey, I know some here on this board don’t, but for a 4th rounder, he’s a solid pick. Can he replace Forte, doubt it, but who could from the 4th round? He creates value by not being Michael Bush or another one of the multi-million$ back ups we’ve had. Brock Vereen, is exactly what you’d expect from a 4th round safety. Holding out judgement there. Fales was a stupid pick. I like the punter pick and I think that Charles Leno guy from the 7th round is still around adding depth, which is what you could hope for, right?

      • CanadaBear

        You like the young guys more than me. Sutton has almost no stats. Ferguson has a couple of sacks and way more tackles. Fuller started out great but teams have adjusted and he hasn’t done much since. He’s a gamer and I like him but he still has a lot to prove. Pretty sure Rat’s contract runs through next year. Even with all these guys (Young, Allen, Paea, Houston) I don’t see us as a top line group. They certainly are paid like one.

        Mills is starting to look like J-Webb nation this year. Hope it’s due to injuries but don’t think so. Bushrod is either hurt or we’re stuck with a high paid LT that isn’t getting it done. Garza has to be on his way out. So we need at least 1 OT and C for sure. Carey and Vereen look like just a couple of guys to me.

        Either PE has stocked the roster with good players and he made a horrible choice for HC, PE hasn’t stocked the roster with great players and maybe Nessman is OK or PE has stocked the roster with a bunch of player without looking how they fit together and hired a HC that should never have been promoted above OC. I’m going with the last option.

        • Big Mike

          Fuller’s drop off coincided with Tillman going out. Big difference being the #1 CB. He’s still making plays. Sutton has been eating up double teams when he is in there. He’s a player. For sure. The d-line is strong. I’m sure of this. Could be better, but not when compared to our ratchety LB group. A bunch of misfit parts, lacking leadership. Tucker is the problem. Trestman is the problem,

          • CanadaBear

            We’ll have to agree to disagree on PE.

    • Viva

      Option 5: Fuck the Cowboys

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Rat is already signed through next year…

  • Big Mike

    Being completely out of contention is somewhat liberating. Enjoyed just watching games. Bulls look strong with D-Rose, Gasol etc. Hawks hitting their stride. High School team won and is in state semi-finals.

    The offense that stopped, and the defense that can’t stop are turning into a bad memory. It’s simply time cheer the jersey. Beat Dallas, don’t beat Dallas, doesn’t matter, just don’t look like idiots.

  • TheBigCheesy

    Lol Barb

    • Viva

      No need to piss in the man’s Cheerio’s.

      • TheBigCheesy

        yeah but…..it’s Barb. I mean c’mon.

  • Viva

    We know what needs to be done. Doing it is hard. Doing it now gives new guy time to evaluate more than just the tape. He can evaluate personality, character, work ethic, discipline, practice talent vs. game talent, leadership, etc. Doing it now makes the most sense of all, save for the business side of eating a large contract.

    If you’re in it to win, the hard decision is easy. If you’re in it to make dough, the decision is the status quo.

  • wreckinball

    Option 1, its the Bears, they are highly resistive to change
    You left out the do nothing option? I doubt it since the dumpster fire is raging but never under estimate the Bears ability to do nothing

    • DaBearsBlog

      Tucker is gone. I think even Tucker knows that.

  • Trac

    I’ve got another option that I think has a good chance of unfolding. Ginny will keep the current coaching staff with the exception of DeCamillo, Emery could contact every team next spring and peddle every above average player on the roster for trade bait and he will then cherry pick offers.

  • Peanut FTW

    Option 1. Even though the offense has been struggling; the inability of this Defense to force teams to punt will be the scape goat for everything.

    I don’t think that is the right option but I think it is the one they will choose. The issue is, who is going to come be Trestman’s DC with a one year limit if you don’t make huge improvements in an awful defense? I would bet, they fire Tucker, hire Fewell after his termination and we get a rinse repeat.

    • John Doe

      Wade Phillips will be the new DC.

      Two of his long time assistants – Paul Pasqualoni and Reggie Herring – are already on the Bears staff implementing potions of his scheme. His 3-4 defense is more of a hybrid 4-3 over and so will not be huge scheme change.

      He has some HC experience to help out Trestman. Bears missing a veteran coach like that given how long Trestman has been out of NFL and is a first-time HC.

      • Peanut FTW

        That would be a good fit.

      • CanadaBear

        I like it but do you really think Phillips would come here on a 1-year deal? That’s what it will amount to if we shit the bed again next year. It will be house cleaning time.

        • Peanut FTW

          What’s Wade got going on right now?

          • CanadaBear

            Would you move for a 1-year try out with a really iffy HC? I’d say yes if you really haven’t accomplished much in the NFL. I’d say no if you’re an NFL lifer with a good rep.

  • GPLDAN

    Dan Patrick and Dungy and Harrison picked Dallas to take Detroit’s place in the division and bump the Lions down to wildcard.

    Dallas knows it has to turn it around – now – after shitting the bed in front of the home crowd against the Eagles. They play the Bears and then go to Philly to rematch the Eagles. Every sign points to them smashing the Bears by 30.

    • thankfully the coaches aren’t going to do that. The kid isn’t ready. Playing him hampers your entire offense. Want to see what you have in Wilson? If Jeffery can play well these last 4 games to earn an extension? If Marshall can turn it around? If the OL can show improvement?

      Won’t get any answers to any of those questions with Fales under center. He’s on the Practice Squad for a reason.

      • GPLDAN

        Old Sauce is going to tee the fuck off on the Bears.

        If Cutty gets killed out there, and injured, then the Bears can’t trade him in the off season. If nothing else, play Slim Jimmy C.

        • CanadaBear

          Cutler isn’t getting traded in the off season. We’re stuck with him for 2 more years. If he gets hurt against Cowgirls, oh well.

    • BerwynBomber

      I’d suit him up and potentially give him snaps in the Minny game. But you probably have to play your best against DAL/NO/DET given that all those games could have league-wide implications.

  • Peanut FTW

    Off topic. I watched the SF, Seattle game and you know; Kapernick reminds me a lot of a young Cutler. He is smug and arrogant, has a cannon of an arm and the possession after making an incredible throw he makes an incredibly stupid one. It is pretty amazing that Kap has been able to stay on the media’s good side and get the Matt Ryan pass for being able to be terrible for 3 or 4 games and nobody talks about it but Cutler is Snidely Whiplash and gets overanalyzed on every sack.

    I think Kap will have a similar career path to Cutler.

    • wreckinball

      Cutler has been at it awhile longer

      • Peanut FTW

        That’s why I said a young Cutler. If you look at the possibility of a controversial HC change… it could become quite similar.

    • Kap reminds me of an an OLD Cutler.
      Cutler has changed little, esp with the turnovers.

      He grimaces a lil less. That’s about it.

  • I’m probably going to be in the minority here, but I don’t want Chicago spending a lot of FA money this offseason. I know they will, because they’ll have it, but I’d rather they re-sign Paea, extend Jeffery, and then sit on some of that money. Build through the draft. Keep bringing in draft classes like this past year, where they have close to 10 guys who seem like contributors, including 3 undrafted ones (Jones, Louis-Jean, Ola). Build through youth. That’s the best way.

    • Peanut FTW

      I think Ola was a Canadian transfer who worked with Nessman, not an undrafted rookie.

      • Big Mike

        Same difference really. Almost like an undrafted free agent.

        • Peanut FTW

          Closer to a scrap heap FA imho. undrafteds get brought in to evaluate, cuz what the hell, street FAs get brought in for a position of need. Ala Holmes and Ola.

          • Big Mike

            So even better that he’s contributed. That was my point. A good find, right?

          • Peanut FTW

            A good find but he was a FA, so if not spending any money in FA, we wouldn’t have signed Ola, that was my point.

          • Big Mike

            I get it. I’d argue than that spending baby amounts on a guy like that should be allowed 🙂

      • he’s considered an undrafted rookie by the NFL.

    • Big Mike

      Christian Jones pickup was awesome. I agree with this 100%. Only * i might put is that I would look at some 1 year FA deals.

      This years’ draft was strong. Last two years, the combination of FA and draft have been strong. Not phenomenal, but strong. Franchise is building a foundation. If they can do as well or better next year, the Bears certainly won’t be the oldest team in the league anymore.

      • Peanut FTW

        You never know what can slip through, I think Burfict in Cincy was an undrafted FA

        • Big Mike

          He was. Man, was I hoping we’d get that guy…

  • GPLDAN
    • CanadaBear

      Not gonna read it but I’m not gonna argue the point. Watching yesterday, seeing 2 QB’s hitting receivers in stride throw after throw after throw. Cutler hasn’t hit a receiver in stride for a month. Our team is so far behind those 2 teams it makes me laugh at Jeff’s post. We aren’t even in the same zip code with those teams.

      • Big Mike

        Cutler’s regression this year is mind boggling. He has gotten worse each week it seems.

    • TheBigCheesy

      He needs more playoff success and longevity to be considered the best ever. Statistically, he’s in a league of his own so far. Just spend 20 minutes on pro football reference and you’ll discover as much. As for the eye test? I’ve never seen anyone as impressive.

      If his career ended tomorrow, he’s basically Gale Sayers with a super bowl ring. Wouldn’t you agree?

      • BerwynBomber

        He is playing the position better than I’ve ever seen it played and every other Cheese game seems to offer a jaw-dropping play — that pump-fake TD to the TE was something else given that dude was a second or third progression and Rodgers found him in a blink of an eye with a perfect 30/40 yard pass.

        But yeah waaaaaaaaaaaaay too early for any best ever talk. His resume is too short and he will probably need to add another ring to assuage today’s SB winner or loser perspective.

        I also wonder if Rodgers is built to last like PManning or Brady. All his play-extending leads to some unnecessary hits.

        • NewBearInTown

          I don’t know about Superbowl or bust. But Rodgers has a lot of early round playoff losses as well. He and Manning are both struggling with that reputation trying to cement their legacy.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah but Rodgers has played well in those losses (except maybe the NYG game). Manning rarely did. His #s dropped dramatically in the post-season.

            But overall. Yeah, Rodgers will need more post-season success to go for the best ever stuff. Regardless, way too early either way. Hell, I think he is a year younger than Cutty.

  • GPLDAN

    The court slapping Rice’s suspension down makes Rodger look bad (again). The NFL can’t even get it right when it’s trying to rehab it’s image.

  • GPLDAN

    Jeff,

    Now that you have a embedded poll with anti-cheating tech – it would be curious to see a poll on:

    What do we do with Cutler?

    A. Play out his contract, hope he gets better.
    B. Trade him to one of six teams his agent says have interest, including the Titans, pre-March 2015 and eat the $38M payout for this year’s work. Assuming say, a 3rd rounder for him.
    C. See if he looks better next year, and THEN cut him for $50+M during the summer of 2015 if he doesn’t look better.
    D. Give him a contract extension, like the Onion says.

    • Peanut FTW

      Here is the issue as I see it, you have several classes of QB right?

      Class A (Elite)

      The best of the best. Every era has a handful of QBs that
      the team is built on. These guys are never out of a game because they are just that good.

      Brady, P. Manning, Rodgers, Brees

      Class B (Good QBs)

      Not quite elite, as they have off days but they have many
      more good days than bad. Won’t always win you the game but rarely lose it for you.

      Luck, Ryan, Wilson, Roethlisberger, Rivers

      Class C (Start-able)

      This is where a good chunk of QBs fall. They can make all
      the throws but there is no guarantee which version of QB is showing up today. They do tend to be overpaid as they keep teams out of the Class D market.

      Cutler, Kaepernick, Newton, Dalton, Flacco, Stafford, Romo,
      Bradford, E. Manning, A. Smith, C. Palmer

      Class D (Journeymen, Pretenders, Flops)

      Maybe they just aren’t quite starters, maybe they had bad
      breaks, maybe they had a couple of great games or maybe their skills never translated but for some reason, these guys end up changing teams a lot or getting benched.

      Orton, Vick, Hill, Mallett, Flynn, G. Smith, McCoy, Manuel,
      Cassell, McCown, Stanton, Whitehurst

      Juries Still Out
      Not sure what Class to put them in.

      Bortles, Hoyer, Johnny Football, Bridgewater, Carr,
      Mettenberger, Foles, Tannehill, Sanchez

      So, none of those 9 guys above Cutler are options. Do you really wanna be back in the journeyman marathon again? Do you want to waste Marshall, Jeffery and Forte’s final season on a kid? At this point, I would be fine with riding it out with Jay and developing a youngster beneath him.

      • GPLDAN

        Ok, vote A or D then. It’s a fair cop, well argued.

        I’d like to see a gauge of the bloggosphere on this.

        • Peanut FTW

          I think there needs to be an E that is more definitive as seeing him as a stop-gap to develop someone behind than either hoping he gets better or the utterly stupid.

      • wreckinball

        Good analysis

        Cutlers contract is crippling. I think he’s playing class D most of this year I agree career wise he is a C but in the NFL is what have you done lately that counts

        Because of his recent play and his pay I think we are stuck and have to hope for a small miracle in that he would start playing B ball

        And draft a QB next year

      • Kyle’s Mom

        Kyle has 13 TDs to 5 INTs with a 92 QBR – how is he a flop ?

    • they would get more than a 3rd rounder for Cutler. Alex Smith got 2 2nds, and Cutler>Smith. Higher contract, but I’d assume that should be similar payoff.

      • CanadaBear

        Cutler has more talent than Smith. Smith is more coachable. I have no idea what Cutler could bring in a trade but at this point we’d be selling low, way low.

        • BerwynBomber

          I would be a little more specific in terms of talent. Cutler has the (much) bigger arm but Smith is more mobile. So the talent discrepancy isn’t as big upon review.

          • CanadaBear

            Somewhat agree but do really think anyone would give us a decent pick for Cutler?

          • BerwynBomber

            I know. He would be a really tough trade but who knows. I’d be interested to hear more about these six teams his agent is chirping about (re: GP’s original post).

          • CanadaBear

            Pretty sure that’s agent talk and nothing else. Cutler has been involved in 3 HC’s losing their jobs with another one on the ropes. Johnny used to always point out how bad all of these coaches/OC’s were. He had a point but the common denominator is Cutler. At some point you have to admit it ain’t all on the HC’s/OC’s.

          • BerwynBomber

            I never bought all of Waffle’s excuses. Mostly they were silly. They sorta reached the vanishing point of absurdity this year when he bellyached that the offensive players weren’t tackling well enough after Jay’s interceptions.

          • CanadaBear

            I love Johnny but we were never going to agree about Cutler. He did have a point about every Cutler turnover goes the other way for 50 yds but it had nothing to do with Cutler being an avg QB.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            lol, I never fucking said that. That sounds like an Onion article. The only point I ever made about anything remotely like that was that INT’s for other quarterbacks fly under the radar because it wasn’t a given that the other team would then take possession and proceed to drive down the field to score no matter where they started from.
            Cheese misapplied that incorrect thought and you’ve now tried to reinforce it. Never said it.

  • Sactowns#1

    Would any of you like to see grandpa pants aka Harbaugh at the helm for Chicago next year? Being so close to SF I feel my perspective is skewed.

    • Scharfinator

      I’d hate it. I think because I hate Harbaugh. His consistent childlike anguish faces make me think he’s a whiny little tool.

      • CanadaBear

        I feel the same way about him but if he could get this mess straightened out I’d overlook his drama queen antics. I read where SF is looking to trade Hairball. That would really be a dirty deal by SF. I think he’s under contract until the start of the new NFL year which starts in March. That would totally fuck Hairball getting another job next year.

        • GPLDAN

          FWIW, when Harbaugh was an undergrad on campus at UM, he was not a prick. He was nice to everyone, and would even sign stuff on the way to class if asked. (I never did, but saw him around several times, he is 3 years older than me.)

          As a Bear, I don’t know what his rep in the city was. Cutler will piss on people if they dare approach him in the city and try and talk to him. He’s known for being a huge asshole to fans, though.

          • CanadaBear

            Yeah, I’ve read too many things about Cutler being an ass to fans. I totally get where he’s coming from but part of that $18 mil/year is to promote the Chicago Bears. He couldn’t fall shorter on that end if he tried.

          • GPLDAN

            You always hear ownership of the Seahawks chirping about Wilson and how he is the kind of human being that makes a great spokesman for the city and the team, how he is a role model and blah blah blah.

            Nobody ever says that about Jay Cutler. And he doooooooon’t care.

          • CanadaBear

            I get that he’s probably an introvert and hates being in public. Too bad, that’s part of his job. It’s not like he has to act like everyone’s best friend. Just be polite, shake a few hands and move on.

          • Peanut FTW

            I disagree, if you don’t feel like talking, you shouldn’t have to. The whole Seattle media interaction with Lynch is proving the point. Everyone deserves some right to privacy, yes celebrities trade away some of it for the money but I still think you should be able to go to a restaurant and eat with your family in peace once in a while or skip out on a postgame because your frustrated. And Chicago fans make it worse be behaving the way they did after the Jeffersons stuff.

          • CanadaBear

            In any business in North America, if you’re one of the top paid people in the company, you represent that company every time you’re in the public eye. The NFL is no different. Anybody in Cutler’s position has to know that.

          • Peanut FTW

            Somewhat true, for most big business execs, more the opposite, you stay out of the papers to keep your job. Cutler hasn’t got so much as a DUI in terms of bad press like that. Not many big CEOs are expected to shake hands and sign autographs while their eating dinner at Magiano’s.

          • CanadaBear

            I have two friends that are way up the food chain in business in North America. Both have high 6-figure salaries/bonuses. Both of them are always “on” when they are in the public. They have to go to a ton of social events that are technically not part of their job. They both hate that shit but that’s the way it is. They are the face of the company when they are in the public eye. It’s no different with Cutler. If Cutler hates it that much, stay home or get another job.

          • Peanut FTW

            I guarantee you if both of them walked into a random restaurant in the midwest, were rude as hell and left. Not one single article would be written… because no one would no who they are or give a shit. If Cutler did it, it’s on the evening news. Apples and oranges.

          • CanadaBear

            Not at all. If either one of them were rude to another person in the biz and it got back to the CEO/Board they would be called on the carpet and if it was bad enough, they would be fired.

          • Peanut FTW

            Yes, if it got back to the board. They have anonymity outside of their central city. They can go on vacation to Hawaii and no one would approach them, it is different.

          • CanadaBear

            They aren’t making $18 mil/year.

            Tired of this. Agree to disagree. Not unlike your defense of Cutler when Lynch tried to help him. Cutler hasn’t progressed in any meaningful way since he’s been here.

          • GPLDAN

            Canada is hiding Colonel Sanders in his basement. He’s not really dead, he’s just tied up like the gimp.

          • Cormonster

            I seen Harbaugh at the bar in Platteville during training camp a few times. He was outgoing and nice to everyone, although it was hard to get close to him because he was surrounded by chicks hoping he would get in their pants.

            It’s gotta be tough being a Michigan fan right now. They really haven’t done shit since Lloyd Carr left. Michigan was always my favorite Big 10 team after Wisconsin. I liked their power football approach. Ever since they hired Rich Rodriguez they seem to have lost their identity.

  • GPLDAN

    I still think Manning would get his ass kicked by the Seahawks in a Super Bowl rematch, were it to be played this Sunday. Having said that, KC was totally unable to pressure with 4, and as soon as they brought a LB or safety, Manning schooled them.

    Watching their #22 (Anderson), take that ball from the gun and do something with it every time makes me think the scheme works, but the execution and reads of the QB have to be perfect. Manning is a fucking Ph.D. in offense.

    • CanadaBear

      This year’s version of Nessman’s offense works if we don’t commit any penalties, don’t make any mistakes and don’t have any plays for negative yardage. That happens about 1 drive per game. We have no downfield passing game because both tackles are turnstiles, the center routinely ends up in Cutler’s lap and our twin towers (who aren’t speed merchants) have both been dinged up. Cutler has no time to let routes develop and for some reason won’t run the ball when the opportunities are there. Not to mention, Nessman/Cutler will abandon the run game at the drop of a hat.

      • Peanut FTW

        This is mostly true, especially the parts about abandoning the run too early and not being able to overcome penalties. The Oline has been a bit of a shambles especially the interior (with exception of Long). It just really sucks to have to start watching hockey with gusto so early as this season is already over.

    • BerwynBomber

      Reid was outcoached offensively by Fox (or Del Rio) defensively. Reid’s conservative play-calling was attributable to the Chiefs early three and outs and allowed Manning his shots to put unanswered points on the board.

      That said, Denver outclasses KC in almost all areas and I generally think Reid is a good coach. Just some questionably predictable play-calling early on.

      • CanadaBear

        Reid makes Lovie look like a genius when it comes to time management during a game. Nobody is worse than Reid when it comes to that.

        • BerwynBomber

          Valid point but I do think overall the man is a fine coach. Just a limited one. Kinda like Marty Schottenheimer was. You were never going to go wrong hiring Marty but he could never QUITE get you to the promised land. Cowher had a bit of that rep too until R-berger showed up.

          • CanadaBear

            Totally agree. I’d take Reid over Nessman in a heartbeat.

      • Peanut FTW

        Yah it doesn’t hurt that Denver has Peyton Manning and KC has Alex Smith. I mean, maybe in five more years, I’d take Smith, maybe.

        • BerwynBomber

          It’s not only Manning. It’s the entire receiving corps. Demarcus Ware, Von Miller, Talib (though he was out last night) etc. Denver is stacked. Elway went all in which was smart given late career Manning. But I could see that franchise looking like the Jets for a few years after Manning hangs them up. Whenever the hell that is.

          • CanadaBear

            I’d make that deal with the devil in a heartbeat. As Schnieder/Carrol proved in Seattle, you can remake your roster in a hurry if you are a good talent evaluator and good HC. We’re 0-2 on that count.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Emery is a fantastic talent evaluator and a perfect GM for a already winning franchise. Problem is he needs a HC with great recognition and charisma. He is a good guy, but needs a bad guy in order to become a top dog GM.
    Emery is the best asset the Chicago Bears have.

    PS: I’d approve a Trestman permanence with 2 conditions: hiring a real Bears DC and a change in the culture of the organization, which means a change in the way Emery manages.
    The ownership should then sow their support and put on field turf. You need field turf if you plan on playing finesse football.

    PS2: I lost hard earned money last night. Fuck you, fuck you, fuck, I like you, fuck you,…. !!!

    • Peanut FTW

      I agree with the Fieldturf. I mean even the lousy ass queens, who are playing in a rented college outdoor stadium, from a crappy college football team play on a nice surface. WTF?

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I don’t know what’s what and who dat, but if you plan on playing Saints Offense and Seahawks Defense you need perfect field to showcase that speed and timing.

        If you want finesse you can’t play on mud. You already operate in the Windy City, don’t make it even harder.

        • Peanut FTW

          They should have just finished the spaceship and put a dome on the damn thing and turfed it. I used to really like the whole Bear weather idea, til I went to a December game at Ford Field a couple years back. You want me to pay hundreds of dollars for a seat to a game in December, let me show up in a hoodie and be comfortable.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            No to the dome. I become a fan of the Bears for the cold weather, defensive mentality and great special teams. First time watched american football I was in total awe with the Special Teams. Like a baby with his first candy.

          • Peanut FTW

            Great defense and special teams play has zero to do with cold weather. My beer turning to slush during the game however, I could do without.

          • TheBigCheesy

            Putting the Bears in a dome would be a travesty of epic proportions.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I never said there was a correlation between them.

          • DaMurph

            We should have a state of the art facility, this is Chicago not some shit city. Little Indy has a fantastic facility!

          • Peanut FTW

            They should have let them redo Soldier Field completely, the remodel is horrid. It is like building your coaching positions but leaving the defensive side of the ball intact.

    • DaMurph

      Fantastic talent evaluator? His first draft choice, a first rounder is basically a bust. Fantastic is not a word I would use to describe Emery at this point of his career.

      • Peanut FTW

        Nobody hits on every draft pick, especially middle to late first rounders.
        Would I rather have Hightower or Chandler Jones, yah but I would have never picked Kyle Long the following year.

        • DaMurph

          Yeah, but I think he just got lucky. Jury is still out on Long, he is solid but would he still be sitting there in the second? Are other picks from lower rounds doing the same job as him?

          • Peanut FTW

            After watching Long manhandle Suh so badly they stopped putting him on Long’s side, imho the jury is in and he is very good.

        • TheBigCheesy

          Long is good but right now he’s a guard. If he moves to tackle and plays great, then it was a great pick. However, if you spend a first round pick on a guard, you almost need to get All-pro production out of him, don’t you?

          • Peanut FTW

            Not late 1st. Late 1st a consistent ProBowl Guard or center is still a good selection.

          • TheBigCheesy

            Late 1st? I’m pretty sure you have to make the playoffs to pick late 1st. Did they trade back for that pick?

          • TheBigCheesy

            Oh was that when they went 10-6? 19th-20th is kinda late, I guess.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            You have to think in context. That draft coincided with the (re)construction of the Bears OLine. So it doesn’t matter what position it is as long as he’s productive and can become a leader. Kyle Long is both. The pick is a fantastic one.

            PS: Similar pick was the rookie G or the Cowboys this year. It’s not ‘just a guard’… it’s a statement.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        In his first 4 months in charge as a GM, he brought in the 2 best WR in the history of the Bears franchise, arguably the most important one in the history of the sport.

        PS: The true importance of a bust 1st round draft pick is overblown.
        They mean little now days. Robert Griffin III -the 2nd overall pick- signed a 4 years/$21 M. Pennies on the dollar. He gets in 4 years as much as Cutler in 1.

        Shea McClellin signed a 4 year deal worth $8,263,398 !!!! That’s nothing. As long as you can bring me in guys like Willie Young for $3M/year I don’t care.

        If you want to fault Emery for McClellin the real problem, red flag -whatever you want to call it- is that he didn’t get rid of him, but insisted with him and his lack of production and consistency. I said it… he’s too much a good guy. Too much trust. You have to be ruthless and decisive. The Bears need that figure in the HC or Emery has to change.

        • TheBigCheesy

          Emery’s fingerprints are all over the team, and the team is flaccid. How can you rate him so highly? He handpicked the coach, and he doubled down on Jay Cutler. Both of those decisions are facing serious questions. He’s been in Chicago for 3 years and he’s brought in Kyle Long, Brandon Marshall, Alshon Jeffery, Kyle Fuller (who had a great September) and bunch of warm bodies. If he’s fucked up the Trestman hire and/or the Cutler extension, those mistakes far outweigh those positive draft picks.

          I’m fine with you saying he deserves a little more time to prove himself, but how can you possibly call him a “fantastic talent evaluator” already?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Lol. A bunch of warm bodies. This premise is blatantly false.

            He brought in Trestman that elevated the Bears O to unseen levels. Missed the playoffs because the defense was historically bad… and he had nothing to do with that. He then rebuilds that Defense at average level, enough for a playoff team…. his offense goes bust. He has nothing to do with that !!! He resigned everybody and added precious help where needed.

          • CanadaBear

            Speaking of blatantly false, saying the GM has nothing to do with a team failing on D one year and the O the next is a load of hooey.

          • BlameAngelo

            Having the two worst defensive performances of all time back to back speaks volumes on Emery.

          • Peanut FTW

            The Nessman thing is all on Emery but Cutler is more of a finding a way to deal with an awful situation. Cutler was already here, there was no definitive way to upgrade the position with any other veteran and the team did not want another 4 years of musical QBs. So he did the only thing he could do to keep the team somewhat stable while he rebuilt an entire Oline and Defense.

          • CanadaBear

            They could have tagged him last year. In hindsight, that would have been a prudent move.

    • AlbertInTucson

      “Fantastic”?
      That’s right up there with your Pats-Packers call.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I don’t like you…

        • BerwynBomber

          You should have listened to me about the under, Barb. You could have broke even. Heckuva game, btw. Lived up to all its billing.

          P.S. Ignore my BALT/PITT predictions as those teams look like they won’t even make the playoffs.

          P.S.2 I’m annoyed that CINCY seemingly will. I have no faith in Andy Dalton winning a playoff game. Seems like a wastes of a spot.

          • Peanut FTW

            Dalton is probably safe for a while. Cincy will only draft redheads at QB so… yah.

        • GPLDAN

          You voted that up, Cheesy?

          Everybody likes Al. Al is like Roy fucking Rodgers. You dick.

          • TheBigCheesy

            I voted that up because barb was reduced to such a silly response. I was amused

          • GPLDAN

            Barb lives his whole existence in a reduced state. Barb is constantly gaining electrons.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I’ll survive..SOMEHOW, GP.

    • BlameAngelo

      “Emery is a fantastic talent evaluator ”
      Where is our decent OL? Where are our NFL safeties and linebackers?

  • TheBigCheesy

    You don’t need to lose & be in top 5 of the draft when your GM has done what Emery did the last two years: found top 5 guys later in round.

    -@DaBearsBlog:disqus

    Kyle Long and Kyle Fuller are top 5 guys??? What in the actual fuck, Jeff.

    • NewBearInTown

      I don’t remember the last time a guard was drafted in the top 5 (if its ever happened on purpose).
      Tell me another DB from the draft having a better year than Fuller, particularly given the broken hand. Yes, there are several standouts at WR, but we weren’t going to draft that position in the first round.

    • Peanut FTW

      That would require you’re whole transition to LT scenario for that to be true.

    • BerwynBomber

      I would say top 10 w/out reviewing each draft. Long’s a rock so I don’t know what your disagreement would be there. Fuller has lost his playmaker gloss from early in the year but he’s been playing with one hand (as of late) and he’s damn near the equal of Jennings already, which is no small thing as a rookie. I could still see a couple/few Pro Bowls during his career.

  • GPLDAN

    Have said many times keeping Kromer eliminates the biggest drawback to firing Trestman: system change.

    Well, that’s a dumb thing to say. Trestman, when assembling his staff, went out and got Kromer. Not Phil. Marc did that. When you get the HC gig and you hand pick your OC, and you get the boot for being a shitbird – well – the OC usually doesn’t get promoted into your place. Or accept a new HC. And the new HC certainly won’t accept being saddled with Kromer.

    Trestman-Kromer is a package deal. If you get rid of one, you get rid of the other.

    • BerwynBomber

      I don’t quite get the Kromer Teflon in this city but oh well. My guess is they make Tucker walk the plank and they bring in a well-established DC like Rob Ryan while rearranging a few other smaller deck chairs.

  • GPLDAN

    How do you feel about the Colts if they pick up Ray Rice for their playoff run?

    • BearDown100393

      He can ride shotgun in Irsay’s Highlander while listening to Phil Collins tunes.

  • Scott W.

    With all appropriate disclaimers in regards to my credentials, I disagree. I think Emery out-smarted himself on the decision to hire Trestman, and to keep McClellin. Both are glaring errors, the one obviously more glaring than the other.
    I think the problem here is the McCaskey’s. They won’t really care all that much about what’s happened this year, and hence, won’t be raining pressure down on Emery to fix it. Sure, the coach(es) must go, as it were, but to fire the GM would mean the McCaskey’s also made a huge, glaring error in hiring him in the first place. What are the odds on THAT happening?
    I would fire Emery, were it my decision to make, at season’s end, along with Trestman. I would allow the new coach, once he unpacked, to have an awful lot of sway in who his assistants were. My new GM and Head Coach and I would sit down with Cliff and we’d have a lot of long talks about what to do with what, and to/for whom.
    I would fire Emery because by choosing Trestman, he wrecked the franchise for the forseeable. We can’t have it both ways. It’s either a “win now” league or it’s not. I think the rebuilding seasons have to be short and show clear signs of growth and progress to be allowed to continue if we aren’t winning. Anyone see any of that happening right now?
    Nope. Me either.

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