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Overconfidence, Opportunity & Oh Shea: Three Final Thoughts for Monday Night Football

| September 22nd, 2014

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Thought One – Overconfidence

I can’t recall a Bears game wherein the Bears were underdogs and an overwhelming number of Bears fans were predicting a blowout victory. Perhaps the expectations of 2014 have gotten the best of you? On face value the Bears would have no reason to blow out the Jets because the Jets do the two things that prevent blowouts: run the ball and stop the run. If the Bears win tonight I expect it to be a tough chore.

Thought Two – Opportunity

The Bears have a brilliant opportunity to seize control of the NFC North – almost unfathomable ten days ago.

The Packers should be 0-3, their offense is suddenly pedestrian and they just may be due for a down year. Teddy Bridgewater will struggle for the majority of the coming year. The Lions are the Lions. If they took a 3-4 game lead in the division, I don’t think a single person in Detroit would feel comfortable. If Bears win tonight it might be time to consider them the favorite to win the division.

Thought Three – Oh Shea!

I feel terrible for Shea McClellin. For the second consecutive year he’ll see the pine after something of a breakout performance. (If you didn’t watch tape from a week ago you didn’t see a Shea who looked disciplined and instinctual at linebacker.) But I wrote in the Game Preview I believed Jon Bostic would be challenged tonight in run defense. Now he’ll be on the field for double the expected snaps. One way or another he may be the story tomorrow morning.

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  • Big Mike

    Bears!

  • Trac

    Bring it! Game on!

  • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

    Waffle’s tip of the day:

    Never rely on Carolina to be the final piece of an 11 team parlay to win 3,000 off of a 3.00 bet.

    Cam Newton and Panther punt return unit, please take my penis into your mouth and choke on it.

    • CanadaBear

      That was my mantra when I bet but I couldn’t even get 4 games/week correct.

    • I picked the CAR D and Specials in FF.
      -6 points.
      WTF!

  • johnnywad

    The Bears stop the run better than they did a year ago. I think they stop the run better than their stats through two games show. (If that’s possible). I think through a full season, we’ll see that they’ve gotten better in that department and I expect Sutton and Bostic to have big games tonight.

    The Jets might be tough to run the ball on but it really doesn’t matter. The Niners are tough to run on so Trest threw the ball. Forte and Black Uni can carve up that soft, juicy goodness just beyond their front 7. No way the Jets bring an extra body inside as they can’t afford too with their shitty DBs.

    I think the Bears win comfortably.

    • I’ve got a piece on run defense coming out later today, breaking down the percentage of runs they give up by distance so far this year compared to the last 11 games last year (NYG game and on, that was after the DTs were gone and the D dropped off). Interesting results.

      • that said, it’s really tough to see this as a comfortable win given the injuries the Bears have on both sides of the ball. I think the Bears win if they can avoid a rash of turnovers (what sunk them against BUF), but I don’t think it will be easy.

      • johnnywad

        I look forward to reading it

  • Peanut FTW

    This game tonight is the one where we need Allen to step up. This is what the pay is for, we are banged up, we need some momentum early and we are facing a below average passer but he can hurt you if you let him move around too much back there. If Allen can force the issue early and get a sack, he can intimidate the kid into mistakes. If Allen can be a presence tonight we should pull away consistently.

    34 – 23 Bears.

    • johnnywad

      Don’t forget Willie Young. I think he’s a bigger threat right now than Allen

      • Peanut FTW

        Willie Young is above average, but remember; he has been staying fresh and was going against a backup RT last week, and he made him look like a backup. IMHO if Young is our best DE tonight, we are in trouble.

        • Young looked good all PS though, and even in limited action vs Bills if memory serves.
          His reps will go up.

    • they need Allen when they start playing pocket QBs on pass-first teams (like Stafford and Rodgers). They need Houston, Young, and the DTs to contain the run tonight.

  • GPLDAN

    The Jets are going to feed the Bears a steady diet of Johnson and Ivory. They are going to see if losing Ratliff means they can roll some flatbread early and establish clock control. Smith is missing Decker, so he lacks a possession wideout so expect screens and sweeps.

    Houston will slide into 3-tech and they will run Allen and Young with some flatbread, backed up by Ego and Sutton.

    The Bears will have no chance to power game this team, they have no power running attack anyway so the totality all goes into space out wide or flat dumps.

    It will be clock control and D vs. the Bears looking for the long ball strike with Holmes and Jeffery.

    • Jokey

      I just googled “roll some flatbread”. I’m naan making that up.

      • MB30SD

        yum. naan is the shizz

      • beninnorcal

        I Doughn’t know what to say about this.

        • GPLDAN

          Croissant you do any better than that?

          • Scharfinator

            You guys are on a roll!

          • CanadaBear

            If the Muppet Show ever comes back you guys might have a career in TV.

    • CanadaBear

      I think Forte and Black Uni are the key unless BMarsh and Alshon have healed up enough to make the Jets back end shit the bed.

      • Peanut FTW

        Their only actual starting corner is doubtful, they will have a rookie and a converted Safety/LB/CB playing the outside. We have one of the biggest risk taking QBs in the NFL, B and AJ will be a big part of the equation if we win.

        • CanadaBear

          I knew that but I’m not sure Cutler will enough time to let their routes develop. If Forte and Black Uni start killing them, we start rolling.

          • Peanut FTW

            If they get caught in a 0 blitz that the Bears are prepped for, it takes 0 time to throw a jump ball to alshon. Uni will be big as well but I just don’t think smashing your head into a wall to prove a point and get Forte rushing yards is going to be worth it against this D.
            It’s like boxing a guy with stitches over his right eye. Yah, normally you work the body to set up the face shots. But why not see if you can open up that cut right away.

          • CanadaBear

            I didn’t say Forte rushing is the key. Forte in the passing game along with Black Uni. If we get that part of the O going, the Jets will be on their heels. If we don’t get that going, we’re in for a dogfight.

  • Megan McClellan

    I don’t think ANY of us should be overconfident about a win tonight. I know the Stats, who’s out etc, but if the Jets are as good as we think they are about shutting down the run, we’re in trouble. I’ll be hoping for a win. It’s been a while since I posted- I hope you are all doing well! BEAR DOWN!

    • Peanut FTW

      The 49ers took away the run….
      The trick is, you have to take away the run without committing 8 men to the box and generate pressure without blitzing. If they stack the box, Trestman will be more than happy to pass; and if they blitz too much they will get beat all day by Alshon and B. The Jets biggest chance is to get an early lead, that way they can take away the run without safety help and keep them in pass protection.

    • Trac

      Figure out a way to complete passes against Revis and Cromartie and wa la the Jets won’t be able to put an extra man in the box. If I know Tresty, it’ll happen.

      • Shady

        You realize of course neither Revis nor Cromartie play for the Jets, correct?

        • Trac

          Bang! Shady’s on his game. Hahaha

    • johnnywad

      Are you related to Shea?

  • MB30SD

    Jeff, you’ve gotta be fucking kidding about cd. The dude isn’t a TOTAL liability in a game and we’re screwed without him.

    Dude, just stop. please. That paragraph could have been written by the faceless espn ‘staff writer’. Save the drama fo yo mama.

    I feel dirty for having read it.

    • Peanut FTW

      Im not sure what your reading into that paragraph mb. All I get out of it is that he feels bad for CD as he was finally actually showing improvement and boom he’s hurt. Bostic will be on the field more, and will be challenged with run fits…. I is confused at your angry. 🙂

      • MB30SD

        I’m mostly just fucking around maings. I tend to do that a bit.

        Playing up to the crowd and all that. To be honest, I don’t even know what’s wrong with CD. What happened to his sorry white ass. (hee hee)

        • Peanut FTW

          hurt his hand, don’t think its broken as he is week to week.

  • Peanut FTW

    I will say that Seattle looked totally exposed defensively in the fourth quarter. They had no answer for the little crossing waggle routes. Whether it was Welker out of the slot or the TE sliding outside, it was wide open every single time. They were damn lucky they won the coin toss there as Peyton woulda rammed that thing home in 6 plays or less.

    • GPLDAN

      I agree, I thought the Seahawks linebackers got exposed.

  • CanadaBear

    Lost a post somehow. I thought CD looked better last week but was still a large step down from Nick Roach. I liked Roach, he was slightly above avg for us. So if CD keeps progressing by the end of the year he might be a pedestrian SLB. Not exactly making me jump for joy.

    • Peanut FTW

      Really, Nick Roach? I mean he was decent but he was always too small for my tastes. I would be a wash if that’s my only option, I might even rather have CD because of the size thing and I don’t know what his ceiling at LB is. Nick Roach has an established ceiling as startable.

      • MB30SD

        no way maing. He was a VERY solid LB in his last year with us. He looked ‘just ok’ because he played next to a HOF LB and a perennial PB lb. On this team, he’d look like a superstar.

        We were WAY spoiled.

        • Peanut FTW

          He had like 60 tackles … that should be way closer to 100 to be solid.

          • MB30SD

            doooood. you’re smoking crack. He was on the fucking raiders and look at his stat sheet last year: http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10856/nick-roach

            112 tackles 83 SOLOS!!!, 5.5 sacks, 4 forced fumbles, 1 INT, 3 passes defended, and 5 stuffs for a loss.

            Uhhhhh… not sure what you feel is a ‘good’ LB, or what you see in CD, but dooood… I’d have roach over 3 CDs (cause that’s how many we’d need to equal roach’ numbers)

          • CanadaBear

            Roach was only on the field for about half the plays (came out in the nickel) with us. He’s at MLB with the Raiders. That explains some of the discrepancy.

            It’s just such a pisser that many on the blog and in the media said take Chandler Jones if he’s there. PE outsmarted himself on that one. Take the layup when the lane is clear.

          • MB30SD

            bingo

      • CanadaBear

        WOW. You really like CD. Roach is 6’1″ and 235, CD is 6’3″ and 245. Not a lot of difference size wise. You can have CD. I prefer Roach. Not to mention, we signed Roach as a FA.

        • Peanut FTW

          No, not in particular but I would just as soon have him as some other random linebacker who was just okay. And 2 inches in height and 10lbs in weight is a fairly big difference at that level. Not so much that I like Shea that much, more that I could care less about Roach. I mean hell, Hunter Hillenmeyer had way better stats than Roach when he started, why not want him back?

          • CanadaBear

            I didn’t say I wanted Roach back. My point was Roach is better than CD and he was a FA pickup that wasn’t expensive. These types of players are available every year in FA for not a lot of money. CD was the #14 pick in the draft.

          • Peanut FTW

            There are a lot of people better than CD, but we already signed CD. There are tons of draft picks people would like redos on. The bears are simply trying to salvage a first round pick by moving him to a position of need. I am not arguing that CD was worth the pick but if he ends up being a decent linebacker, then it’s better than a complete waste of a pick. We also had a defensive line and safeties to rebuild during Free Agency.
            To me Emery ended up looking like a genius last Sunday, he created depth in all the right places. You can’t fix every problem but he has patched up a lot.

          • CanadaBear

            Fair enough but I don’t see this ending well for the Bears.

          • Peanut FTW

            Me either.

          • MB30SD

            dude, CD is not good by any stretch. He’s come along a far way to being a guy who can now stand in there and make a play every couple series. That to me does not a good D make. He’s one of the weak links out there.

    • MB30SD

      roach actually ended looking pretty damn strong in the end and wound up one of the raidah’s best LBs (though that’s probably not saying much).

      I’d LOVE to have him back now.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    If the Bears get behind by 7 or more tonight early, they’ll be in trouble. If we can score first I think we can carry the momentum and keep them on their heels. The Jets are no push overs for sure, but I think the Bears “should” win. After most of my Sunday predictions were over the cliff I will NOT say the “will” win. Don’t want to curse them with bad prediction karma.

    • I think the Bears can play from behind better than the Jets can. They’re gonna have to pass it a lot anyway. I will be very happy if Bears can jump out to a lead and force the game into the right arm of Geno Smith.

  • BillW

    I was looking up holding rules – wondering about the jersey tug issue for DBs, and came on something I can’t believe:

    A player may not bat or punch:
    (a) A loose ball (in field of play) toward his opponent’s goal line or in any direction in either end zone.
    (b) A ball in player possession

    Part b clearly reads that the Peanut Punch is not legal. That can’t be true – which makes me think these rule digests are not accurate.

    http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/useofhands

    • Peanut FTW

      I think, that rule is intended for the player in possession, as in you can’t volleyball server the ball to another offensive player. If you read the note it says that the officials will rule the act of attempting to strip the ball as a legal act.

      • BillW

        Ah – I get it. Of course they couldn’t say “a ball in his own possession” even though there are no female players in the NFL.

    • Peanut FTW

      There are some rules that do seem to get ignored though, like the
      “When, in the judgment of the Referee, the level of crowd noise prevents the offense from hearing its signals, he can institute a series of procedures which can result in a loss of team time outs or a five-yard penalty against the defensive team.”
      I mean that is pretty much every possession at Seattle.

      • BillW

        Things I’d like to see but never will:
        1. Crowd noise penalty in Seattle
        2. Delay of game penalty after GB TDs in Lambeau Field
        (I mean, they celebrate scoring – THEN do a Lambaeu Leap – THEN go back to celebrating the TD)
        3. Intentional grounding called when a QB is outside the pocket and his pass is toward the line of scrimmage but doesn’t make it that far

        These rules are on the books but never enforced. Yet Hester gets called for taunting when everyone on the TB sideline knew he was paying tribute to Deion.

        • Peanut FTW

          Yes, Id like to see that whole list as well, I would also like to see a DB catch a leaping receiver and carry them four steps and drop them out of bounds just to see what they do with that little rule as well.

          • BillW

            That would be fun to watch – though I like the rule as written. They probably have a provision to deal with the situation you mention.

            I’d like to see them go to the college rules for 1 foot in bounds on a catch coupled with PI being 15 yrds and not a spot foul.

          • Peanut FTW

            I would hate the one foot thing. It drives me nuts that it is that way in college even. All the amazing catches Ive seen where they drag that 2nd toe… no way on that one.
            The 15 yards I wouldn’t care one way or the other.

            I think they need to change assessment on fouls where you can’t assess the yardage. So if your at your own 2 and false start, you should lose the down instead of moving a yard.

          • BillW

            Or move the line to gain instead – or both. In fact, I’d like to see all penalties fully enforced even if it takes two plays to do it.

            Example: First and goal from the 8 – incomplete pass but roughing the QB. Essentially a four yard penalty. Now what if they held the other 11 yards for another play? Or move it to the one and hold the other 8 yards for another play? Something so that the whole 15 yards eventually gets assessed.

            Yeah, I know I’m talking a huge change.

    • Trac

      I always thought that punching the ball loose was cheating. The key is to complete the punch prior to full possession prolly.

      • johnnywad

        Da hell you talkin bout? Punching the ball loose is cheating?

        • MB30SD

          cheating cause it works so well.

          BOOM!

        • Trac

          Yup. Check the by laws Johnny.

  • here’s that run D article I was talking about:

    http://dabearsbeat.com/2014/09/22/has-chicagos-run-defense-improved/

    • Bender McLugh

      “100 yards rushing for the Bears tonight”.

      I predicted that a few threads back……and I can’t waiver now. I’m thinking the Bears will be able run off of the threat of the pass, and, through Tresty-schemes, get the job done.

      Needless to say I’m a bit more apprehensive about this now, but screw it, I’m stickin to my story.

      • I’m not expecting a ton of runs from the Bears tonight. I think this game is won or lost on Cutler’s arm.

        • Peanut FTW

          I could see both. The Bear’s take advantage of the corners early and get a decent lead and take the air out in the second half grinding away. That is the only way they get over 100 though, unless obviously, Matty breaks one wide open.

        • CanadaBear

          I think they test the perimeter with Forte but I really don’t see much reason to go up the gut.

          • Peanut FTW

            I would kind of like to see Holmes run a jet sweep, just to see you know. Maybe on a second and short.

          • Save the good stuff for the Pack.

          • I’m sure we’ll see a few plunges up the middle early just to try and slow the pass rush.

          • SC Dave

            Why not a couple of delays… you know, like the draw play? Never see that shit any more, and I don’t know why.

        • Bender McLugh

          so the back RB’s….we haven’t really seen them in action yet this season have we?

          • Peanut FTW

            No, who wants to pull Matt Forte for Kadeem Carey?

          • Cheesy and Barb.

          • no, and that’s going to become a MAJOR issue IMO. Carey got 4 snaps week 1, 1 carry. Forte has played every other offensive snap. That’s too much.

  • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

    Tough test tonight boys but I have to believe that we’ll limit their run game to under 150yds while Geno Smith limits their pass game by sucking at football.

    • Peanut FTW

      Lol, all this.

    • Limiting them to under 150 yds rushing would be a feat for our D.

      How depressing is that…

  • Peanut FTW

    Detroit looks like a real threat this year. They are playing disciplined defense and they have a very balanced offense. They are going to beat some good teams this year.

    • I dunno. They still made a lot of mistakes that let GB hang in that game when it should have been a blowout. Stafford is still a bad QB, IMO. I just don’t trust him.

      Their D looks 100% legit though, but the injuries are starting to mount.

      • Peanut FTW

        Yah I don’t think the lesbian is that good either, but still; Tate has taken a lot of pressure off of Megatron and just the D cleaning up the penalties and playing sound makes them a lot tougher to beat.

        • MB30SD

          meh, they’ll still end up being the lions. I think GB is going to end up being much more dogshit than we all think.

          • Peanut FTW

            Yah but when we play each other its always a damn game no matter which team is dogshit at the time.

          • johnnywad

            I watched the Lions/Pack game yesterday. I’ve been saying for a month the Packers are beatable this year. After watching a whole game, I am all in on that one. They’ll be LUCKY to make 9-7. The Lions front four are pretty damn good. They have one good linebacker left in Levy. After that, bums. Additionally, they will Lion themselves. I think we beat both of those teams twice this year. I will come on here and flog myself publicly if not.

          • I still think GB ends up at 10+ wins.

          • johnnywad

            How? I just don’t see what you do I guess

          • this is the same team, maybe slightly improved, that has won 10+ games each of the last 4 years Rodgers didn’t get hurt.
            Their defense rush looks better than it has since they won the SB. Same for their OL, albeit that one in the very tiny sample size before Bulaga got hurt. Once he’s back in a few weeks, I expect they’ll go on a roll.

          • CanadaBear

            I think Bulaga played yesterday.

          • that he did, I missed that. I imagine he wasn’t yet at full strength. Will be interested to see their line the next few weeks. IMO they looked pretty good against SEA before he got hurt, but that was only about 1.5 quarters.

          • CanadaBear

            I watched a lot of the game yesterday and their running attack was meh and the Kitties DL kept Rodgers uncomfortable all day. They blitzed some but not a lot when I was watching.

          • SC Dave

            The Lions have a much better d line than we do.

          • MB30SD

            no way, not the way they’re playing,.. and they’re bound to have more injuries.

          • johnnywad

            They’re going to be 1-3 six days from now. So you’ve got them 9-3 or better over the last twelve weeks. They’re a Jordy Nelson sprained ankle away from being incapable of scoring. The Lions bracketed him yesterday with pedestrian DBs and he got nothing. The Packers D is awful by my eyes. We just disagree. I still love you though.

          • Rodgers hasn’t been Rodgers yet this year. I think that changes. I’m not chalking up next week as a W for the Bears yet either. That’s gonna be a really tough game IMO.

    • Big Mike

      Then this. Lions being lions….Lions Place LB Stephen Tulloch On Season-Ending I.R. With ACL Injury ow.ly/3rF1y4.

      • Peanut FTW

        That will hurt them but that Levy kid is the real deal.

        • Big Mike

          It’s a war of attrition. They lose that guy, next guy up isn’t as good. If they get another injury at the same spot they are screwed.

          • Yeah. Attrition. Like someone spearing you or crack backing you.
            Not tearing muscles doing Double Discount celebration.

        • MB30SD

          tulloch is a beast. that guy is ALWAYS around the ball. This is really bad for them. Yes levy is a monster too, but he’s not the vet leader who just tore his fucking ACL celebrating a fucking tackle.

          Somewhere along the line, someone in lions ownership assfucked lucifer while he was bending over to pick up his pitchfork.

          that team is so fucking cursed

          (hee hee)

      • CanadaBear

        Tore his ACL celebrating a sack. AWESOME!

  • Guys. I know the Bears play tonight. But I made it to the finals in both of my Fantasy Baseball leagues. Championship week starts tonight. Wish me luck!

    • CanadaBear

      Good luck. You must not have any Cubs on your team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • or he grabbed Jorge Soler, Kyle Hendricks, Jake Arrieta, and Anthony Rizzo for dirt cheap.

        • I picked up Soler about a week before he got called up. He’s been huge to help me pretend i’m not missing Goldschmidt, Tulowitzki, or Melky Cabrera

          • MB30SD

            wait, are we talking about fucking baseball right now!?

            And you’re missing our monday night game for this… baseball… thing?

            <— look of utter sadness and disappointment on his face

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            Baseball is a great great game! I rank it up there with Chess and football.

          • MB30SD

            chess and golf? Golf and curling?

            mee too.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            I left out poker. Baseball, chess, poker, and football. The four best games.

          • Cormonster

            And paddleball. All I need is baseball, chess, poker, football, and this paddleball.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            and the remote control. All I need is baseball, chess, poker, football, this paddleball and the remote control. And that’s all I need. Classic.

          • woh there, josephine. who said i was missing the game? i simply said i’m a week away from a nice little windfall that will pay for my trip to see the beloved at the University of Phoenix stadium in February.

    • SC Dave

      Good luck, Evan.

  • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

    Todays the first day back teaching classes and all I want to do is go home and watch pre-game. Like 12 hours of pregame.

    Anybody remember the bears overtime victory against the Jets on MNF in 1991? That was a great game that I cannot find on youtube.

    So what’s wrong with Chicken Dinner?

    • GPLDAN

      He cracked a couple of bones in his hand when Briggs dropped the Lambo’s Gullwing door on it.

      • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

        not really. Really?

        • GPLDAN

          Well the part about the broken hand is really.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            How long is he out?

          • GPLDAN

            He said to Joniak that he’s getting a procedure on it, dunno what that means, maybe a syringe and some superglue – and he wants to be back in a week or, at the outside, two.

            Slauson and Garza still out and Ratliff failed some elements of the concussion test. Don’t know what parts or how it works.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            I want to see the young blood at D-tackle anyway.

          • GPLDAN

            No you don’t. You want Ratliff healthy because he was playing like a hoss. He was the only DL who graded out against the Bills.

          • This is true. Paea is so hit-and-miss. He can totally blow past ppl in one play, then in the next, he’s Flat-Bread.
            Sutton looked pretty athletic to me, but rook DTs are also wildly inconsistent.
            What I think we should do.
            Move Houston inside, let Young start at DE.

            Houston has been a huge disappointment from the DE spot to me. Maybe he can make a difference inside.
            Rotate a few more DEs or switch it up.
            Is Scott still inj?

          • CanadaBear

            Last I saw Scott didn’t practice Sat so I can’t imagine he will be playing tonight.

          • SC Dave

            Scott listed as doubtful on the injury report on Da Site.

            http://www.chicagobears.com/team/injury-report.html

          • SC Dave

            Wow… not good. I hope he is okay, and not just because I want him playing on our line.

  • johnnywad

    I’m a little surprised at the lack of enthusiasm here. So I’ll be the full on homer meatball. The only teams I would bet to beat the Bears right now are the Seahawks and the Broncos. I think they are the third best team in football at the moment. Time will tell, but the defense looks to be much improved to me. The offense is the real deal. This team is going to score a shitload of points. And they’re going to do it in modern football fashion, through the air. Who gives a shit how Matty gets his touches? Can’t run on the Jets? Throw him the ball. Playing good coverage teams? Mix the run and short passing game in a little heavier. This offense is capable of playing really any kind of scheme.

    They just beat the damn Niners on the road with their two best receivers hobbled their third receiver on IR and their fourth receiver on the sidelines. They played with a backup up center and a backup guard from the CFL. And still outscored the Niners on the road, in the see exond half by three touchdowns.

    The defense has held their opponents to 20 points twice. That will do it almost every time.

    The Bills game was the fluke. Not the Niners game. The Jets are not a quality football team. The Bears are.

    My .02

    • CanadaBear

      You have no idea how much I want to believe this.

      • Trac

        How bout this one. You have no idea, I don’t’ believe this. Hee hee.

    • GPLDAN

      I didn’t know extacy came in wads.

    • Bears-4-Ever

      Wow JW, I don’t know about this…”I think they are the third best team in football at the moment.” I need more “proof” from our Defense to start to believe this. At this point, yes the defense has improved, but they are not “great”. I really don’t worry about putting up points since I think our Offense can and will. The defensive talent and potential is still a bit foggy for me. 3 more games…and I think we’ll have a better assessment on how good or bad they really are.

      • if they can get to 4-1 with road wins over SF, NYJ, and CAR and a home win over GB, I would be highly impressed.

        I’m still just hoping for 5-3 at the bye, though I won’t be disappointed with 4-4.

      • Trac

        The Bengals are prolly playing the best football in the NFL right now.

    • The Bills game was lost by a flurry of turnovers. The 49ers game was won by a flurry of turnovers.

      I like what I’ve seen so far, but we still don’t know a ton about these Bears.

    • Peanut FTW

      Hmmm, I don’t think so. I think the Bears have an average Defense, a top 5 offense and a bottom 5 special teams. I think the Bears will win every game that they win the field position battle and don’t turn it over. It’s that simple, if this team can play mistake free on offense and win the field position battle, they are good enough to beat anyone.
      That being said, this team will turn the ball over on offense and the STs are bad enough that we are going to lose some field position battles. In those cases, we can lose to any team. I think we are looking at another frustrating 10-6 grind where we barely make the playoffs. I do think we are built to cause some damage in the playoffs; but eventually we need to shore up the STs. That damn punter….

      • SC Dave

        I think the punting has improved greatly. That, and when the coverage screws up, he is big and strong enough to put a serious hurt on some impudent return guy.

  • CanadaBear

    Couple of items. Did you guys see the cheap shot the Wash. DLmen put on Foles yesterday? Fucker got tossed and I’m guessing he will be lucky to avoid suspension. He deserves it.

    Also, this one makes me laugh. After Cutler had arguably his best game with the Bears, Skip Bayless turns on him. How that makes sense is beyond me. Glad he’s off Cutler’s bandwagon. That douchebag is a major embarrassment.

    • GPLDAN

      I wish to see SKip Bayless dragged behind something. Like a truck in Tijuana or something.

      • CanadaBear
        • GPLDAN

          I want to say that hit on Foles was dirty, but I really can’t.

          Foles was moving for the tackle, the guy hits him from the frontside and doesn’t touch the helmet.

          Is it a crackback? Well, yeah. But fuck, even in high school people were laying other people out on those. It was clean.

          • MB30SD

            Agree 100%. That was not a cheapshot. ANY other player on the eagles and it’s not even mentioned.

            You wanna play big boy football and act like you’re going to try and make a tackle on an INT you threw, well guess what, you’re not a QB any more, you’re a football player.

            Just start walking to the sideline immediately. Don’t try to pull a cutty when you ain’t got the chops little boy.

            That that BOOYAH, bitch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48pQbggAcD0

          • Scharfinator

            Probably my favorite Cutty play.

          • CanadaBear

            I loved that play and totally respect Cutler’s will to win. However, you know that Steelers DB was worried about a penalty and let up some. SURPRISE!

          • MB30SD

            totally. cutty is a big dude tho

          • CanadaBear

            I was amazed when I found out he did about 25 reps on the bench at the combine. Same thing as above, all those guys that constantly run their yaps about Cutler being a pussy. Say it to his face when there is nobody around to come to your rescue or testify in court for you.

          • MB30SD

            exactly.

          • SC Dave

            One of my favorite Cutty plays ever; as I recall that play more or less won the game for the good guys. Definitely set a tone.

        • Peanut FTW

          Nice clean hit to me. On Defense, if there is a pick and you didn’t make the pick; you are looking to block someone, most preferably the QB. It is a wee bit late and away from the tackle but if that is anyone but a QB, noone even complains. And after the pick, if he is trying to make a tackle; he ain’t a QB

          • Jokey

            I agree but by rule you can’t hit the QB after a change of possession unless he is in a “distinctly defensive position.” http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2014/9/22/6826779/eagles-redskins-chris-baker-hit-nick-foles-illegal-nfl-rulebook

          • bearsfantillend

            he wasn’t that far from the end of the play, within a couple yards. he was moving towards that the ball like he was going to try a tackle if needed. So to me i agree with Peanut, clean hit if it wasn’t just a bit late. I personally don’t like the rule that the QB is considered a ‘Defenseless Player’ after change of possession. If QB doesn’t want to get hit he should either sit down on the ground or run the complete opposite direction.

          • I say that QBs must roll up into a fetal position to declare themselves defenseless.

            If they’re going to be treated like pussies, they should act accordingly.

          • bearsfantillend

            i don’t think it is possible for me to like this comment more!!!!

          • SC Dave

            Pussy rule

          • CanadaBear

            That’s just the type of hit the NFL has put in a rule to avoid. I get everyone’s point about if you’re trying to make a play, etc. but he was doing nothing. Just kinda standing there and the guy unloaded. We went nuts when Allen did that to The Chief. How is it bad to do it to an OLmen but OK when it’s Philly’s QB?

            Ten years ago I agree with all of you guys. In today’s NFL, total cheap shot. Glad Foles rebounded from it.

      • Is Chris Everett still around?

        • CanadaBear

          That was awesome. I only wish he would have stomped a mud hole in him. We’re totally guilty of doing the same thing but we’re just a bunch of nuts. I would like nothing better than to have some of these loudmouth assholes bitch slapped on TV and see how many of them cry. I’m guessing close to 100%.

          • MB30SD

            I could tell you stories canada.

            These guys in college who were on the band or on the yearbook staff in HS, get to college and join a frat and think all of a sudden they’re the shit. Then at parties pop off to people they shouldn’t be and you can see the shock and fear in their eyes when the normal response of getting fucking smacked in the mouth for said talking is upon them. Oh my god, I just got knocked the fuck out for opening my mouth! He just hit me!?!?!?

            I don’t care if you lose the fight, but if you’re going to do that to someone you can tell will bring it, you better be willing to back yo shit up.

          • CanadaBear

            Trust me, I’m about 20 years older than you and if you ran your mouth when I was a kid, you’d better be ready to throw down. I always bugged the great big guys because I knew they wouldn’t tear me apart (because I was 5’3″ and they knew I was yanking their chains). Once in a while a big guy would grab me and try to intimidate me but I knew it was hooey. If someone was seriously going to stomp me in that scenario I would have apologized in a heartbeat. I’m not that crazy.

            That’s one of my biggest pet peeves on the interwebs. All these keyboard warriors talking shit all the time. Esp when someone calls them on it and they say, “If so and so were here I’d say it to his face”. No you wouldn’t unless you want the fuck knocked out of you.

          • MB30SD

            hahahaha… exactly.

          • SC Dave

            Oh fuck yeah

        • MB30SD

          Hahahahaha… love that shit. litle worm

  • GPLDAN
  • GPLDAN

    Has the Luftwaffle landed in Vegas to put at least $300 on the Jets?

    We need that Karma, Honey Badger. Don’t make us beg.

    • Viva

      Go Johnny go.

    • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

      Bet has been placed. Victory assured.

  • GPLDAN

    Tonight is the kind of game where having a pounding short yardage back is really needed. One that excels at pass blocking as well.

    Thankfully, we have Kadeem Carey.

    • Trac

      This sounds like Lovie deuce. Lol.

      In my opinion, we can beat the Jets by finding a way to exploit the extra man in the box scheme they’ll be deploying. Trestys gonna have to attack via the passing game which is his forte. 25% Ground game max, then when you get the Jets playing on their heels, you hit em with the gut punch on the ground. This is going to be hard to do but if our unholy trinity is heathy enough, can it be done ? “you betcha”.

    • I won’t even beat the dead horse cuz I’ve been doing it since January…

      But luckily, Carey’s great in specials!

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD
  • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

    Boys, the bet has been placed using some profits from this weekends wagering. Victory is now ours.

  • I love me some running ground-and-pound, but this is not the game for bravado.
    The Pack tried to establish their run game vs a the teeth of the Lion’s D. Neve rmind that they have a CFL secondary. We saw what resulted.
    The 9ers equally tried to establish their run game vs a stout Zona line. Gore got about 10 yards, literally. (And they’re built to power run).
    Hope Trestman takes notes and attacks the Jets through the air. When their D gets back on its heels, then run some.
    And for God’s sake, if you’re gonna run with Forte, HIT the perimeter! We can’t run up the middle with the Oline and HBs we currently roster.

  • Trac

    Have no fear gents. The Jets game should be a win. A loss means we got lucky in SF. That’s really what this game boils down to for me. We are definitely good enough to beat this team.

    • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

      Confident Trac may negate my bet against the boys that would normally ensure vitctory. Take your optimism back. Take it back right now.

      • Trac

        Explain your wager parlay and I’ll tell you if you’re proper buggered or not. Do tell!

  • Trac

    Some Browns fans are already referring to Johnny Shitbird as “Powder Head”. Hmm.

  • bearsfantillend

    I want this to be a “Statement” game of sorts for our D. Keep the run game in check, cause Geno Smith and the receivers don’t scare me.

    • Unfortunately, we have a bad habit of making mediocre QBs play like HOFers.
      We need to break that trend tonight. Geno isn’t as bad as everyone proclaims. He can be accurate and even clutch if given time.

      He doesn’t have any weapons though, and if Decker is out. the only one we might have to worry about is their TE Amaro (besides their HBs, naturally).

      • SC Dave

        Geno does not look hopeless to me.

  • We’re really going to find out a lot tonight.
    I know ppl say, “it’s only ONE game”, but there’s only 16 of them per team every season, so ONE game can reveal a lot.
    ONE game made many of us believe in Fuller more. No HOF lock, but if Fuller bombed last game, we’d all be mourning Peanut much much more.
    We’re gong to find out about Bostic. Tonight. Is he always going to be a clueless liability?
    Can the young DTs be serviceable? Is Paea Flatbread, or not?
    How’s our nickle package going to fare now that Peanut’s out and Fuller mans the outside?
    Will Conte hurt his vag again?

    Don’t forget about our specials.
    Can ANYONE return? Can ANYONE gun?
    After watching some Skunk, I am longing for some spark, any spark in specials.

    On O, are we going to start off slowly again? For all this talk about how potent and prolific the O is, it always seems to start off shaky, putting the D in tough scenarios (Specials don’t do the D any favors either).

    I want us to start off strong and keep foot on throat, not hand-wring till the 3rd quarter.

    • Peanut FTW

      I think we scored inside the first 5 minutes of the Bills game on a drive that took about 30 seconds. The specials are much more consistently shaky.

      • Yeah, but then we did jack-squat till the second half.
        I’m not saying score on every drive (though why not?), but at least put some long drives together, flip field position, etc.

        • Peanut FTW

          I just think they need to run a lot more hurry up. Cutler thrives in those quick efficient drives and struggles when we huddle up and sub-in sub-out. Just go get it. Wear out their line, get a lead then huddle up punch it down their throats and eat the clock.

          • I could see that.
            But for some reason, Trestman gets too cute and fucks up the Offensive mojo. Some random gadget play like a flea-flicker when the Bears don’t need to resort to tricks. We got ballers and a good offensive line.
            We should impose our will consistently, esp vs a weak secondary.

  • Shady

    Meh. Just meh. This game is a meh for me cause technically it’s Packer week and that’s all I give a fuck about. I think the Bears would like to win tonight, but in what should be a game of wills (and trenches) I just don’t see them having an edge. Just get out of NY healthy tonight and prepare for revenge.

    • You don’t see the Bears having an edge?

      • Shady

        I think the Bears may have certain matchup edges, but as far as PLAYING with an edge? No. The Jets will come out playing fast and hard. I think the Bears are more concerned about winning next Sunday.

    • CanadaBear

      I have no idea what The Beloved will do tonight. They couldn’t have been more Jekyll and Hyde in the first two weeks. Hell, what am I talking about, They are Jekyll and Hyde from series to series.

      • Trac

        Judging from what I read on a packer blog, they’re not looking forward to playing us this week. That’s gotta count for something right?

        Gotta be honest, I had a nagging feeling we were going to lose the Bills game. I don’t even have a doubt as to this game. I’m even leaning towards a comfortable win.

        • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

          why are you jinxing my reverse jinx bet?

          • Trac

            Hahaha. Please don’t tell me you took the Jets and the points.

  • MB30SD

    perloff and nagler, a couple nice fucking nerdy jewish boys who’ve never played a down of football between them discuss our game.

    http://www.si.com/video/2014/09/22/monday-night-preview-bears-vs-jets

    hahaha

    • AlbertInTucson

      “Dannette” Perloff looks like Woody Allen’s love child.

    • Trac

      Any relation to Ralph Nagler?

  • DSupreme

    Found a Bears bar here in DC guys. I’ve lived here 3 yrs and I’m just now finding out about it. SMH (Never really inquired tho)… So I’ll be there tonight hopefully watching our Bears stomp the shit out of the Jets!! #BearDown

    http://www.dcbearsfans.com/

  • BillW

    Well, I am optimistic about tonight because it’s a statement game for Trestman too. Game planning and adjustments will both be on display. Odd as Jeff said that despite the gamblers preference for the Jets, it appears many impartials favor the Bears (very unscientific poll on Yahoo sports has every region of the country more than 50% picking Bears – including the region that includes NY state.

    Peter King likes the Jets. That’s usually a good sign too, since he is clueless.

    Somehow this is beginning to feel like a critical game – not a must win since it’s not even a conference game – but the only way for the Bears to move forward is to win tonight. Fair or not, if they lose it’s back to wondering if they have what it takes.

    I’d like to think I can plan out what they need to do and why I believe they will do it. But there are too many variables. The only constants I see are these:

    Our special teams are horrible – so we need to be basic. I would say don’t run back any kickoff more than 3-4 yards in the end zone. I would not object to fair catching every punt unless Holmes is the returner. And protect on the punt blocking.

    I’m afraid they are going to tear off some big runs. The safeties need to take the angle that puts them in front of the runner if they get free so they are forced to slow down – the LBs are fast enough to recover and make the tackle. That may seem too conservative but I hate seeing a safety angling after a ball carrier only to have to turn and start chasing.

    Needless to say, pass protection is key. This is where Kromer and Trestman and Cutler need to be on the same page. Patience – there will be downfield opportunities but not on every play.

    Prediction – Bears trail at the half by less than 10 and win a close game by less than 7.

  • Shady

    What’s with the fried bologna?

  • BillW

    I hope we can avoid serious injuries for at least one game here, since we’re going into Packer week.

    I know injuries happen every year but it’s a lot of players that are very important to their teams. since so many injuries come from clean plays where am arm or leg gets caught in the wrong position, rule changes can’t help this.

    But lack of injuries is a major factor in who makes the playoffs and advances and I wish there was a way to fix that. I guess it’s luck – though I don’t really believe in “luck” literally. But it shouldn’t play such an important part in determining the eventual champion.

  • Viva

    Bears 27

    Jets 17

    I’m with Shady. MNF is cutting hard into packer week. Aaron Rogers dead.

  • Viva

    BEAR DOWN

  • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

    New thread

  • MB30SD

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