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New Orleans Saints at Chicago Bears Game Preview

| December 11th, 2014

Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip never amounted to much of a show but this is one of my favorite five minutes in TV history.

The Saints are horrible. The Bears are slightly more horrible. So why do I like the Chicago Bears this week?

I always like the Chicago Bears.

WHY ELSE?

  • If the Saints didn’t win a Super Bowl a half decade ago they’d be the Chicago Bears. Their sideline is lousy with coaches shouting at one another, their defense is in the tank and now will have 2013 first-rounder Kenny Vaccaro on the bench, their offense shows up every other month and they are coming off a humiliating thrashing at the hands of the also-terrible Carolina Panthers. That was remarkably their fourth consecutive loss at home – a place where they’ve dominated the sport in the Sean Payton/Drew Brees era. It’s bad in New Orleans but…
  • …if you are miserable in New Orleans, you must not like drinking or eating or music or joy.
  • 40 carries, 271 yards, 6.8 yards a clip, 2 touchdowns. That is what the Panthers did to the Saints with a wasteland of an offensive line and a combination of Jonathan Stewart, Cam Newton, Mike Tolbert & Fozzy Whittaker.
  • Cam Newton is the fifth most sacked quarterback in the NFL. The Saints didn’t get near him.

2014 Draws Comparisons to 2009

The 2009 Chicago Bears were 3-1 heading into their early-season bye week. They came out of the bye and lost 8 of their next 10 games, including defensive embarrassments against Cincinnati, Arizona and Minnesota. The team was dead and buried.

Then on a Week 16 Monday night, against the heavily-favored Vikings, the Bears showed up and played arguably their best game of the year. With yours truly in attendance the Bears beat the Vikings in overtime on a Cutler-audibled go route touchdown pass to Devin Aromashodu.

The play is at the 3:50 mark.

So if there is going to be an anomaly this season, Monday night sets up to be that game.

For Those Wanting Cutler Out the Door…

(The below discussion began as a series of Tweets yesterday.)

Here are some facts.

  • Right now Jay Cutler has 26 touchdown passes. Only one player drafted AFTER Cutler – Andrew Luck – has more.
  • Right now Jay Cutler completes 66.8% of his passes. No players drafted after Cutler have a better completion percentage.
  • Right now Jay Cutler has 3,446 yards passing. Only three players drafted after Cutler have more – Andrew Luck (1st pick overall), Matt Ryan (3rd pick overall) and Matt Stafford (1st pick overall).

Here are some other facts:

  • Cutler is second in the NFL in picks.
  • Cutler has fumbled 6 times, equaled only by Andrew Luck.
  • Cutler has threw crippling interceptions in both the Buffalo and Carolina games, without which an argument can be made the Bears season would look vastly different.
  • While the news rules have allowed for a freedom in the passing game unseen in NFL history the Bears – with their quarterback and weapons – are unable to mount anything resembling a charge once put down in a ball game.

Two words define Cutler: production and disruption. Both side of the Cutler debate have ample ammunition to defend their arguments. But one point that should not be forgotten: Jay Cutler has yet to have a well-built team during his Bears tenure. The front half of his time in Chicago featured no offensive line or weapons. The second half fortified the line, added the weapons and fielded the worst defense in franchise history.

Jay Cutler is 9-6 over the last two seasons when the game is decided by less than 10 points. (I don’t count his 8 throw Redskins performance.) In those games the Bears are allowing 24.33 points per game.

Cutler is 1-7 over those same two season in games decided by more than ten points.  In those games the Bears are allowing 39.13 points per game.

BEARS WITHOUT BRANDON MARSHALL

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Apologies to Rich Campbell for pasting a large portion of his recent Tribune piece (CLICK HERE to read the entire worth-your-time piece) but I thought it all needed to be here in order for my comments to register:

1. The relationship between Jay Cutler and Brandon Marshall is strained.

Marshall was crystal clear on Oct. 9 when he said to reporters: “Everything I do is strategic.”

So it was no accident Monday night when he said on his radio show that the businessman in him would have buyer’s remorse about Cutler’s $126.7 million contract.

And when Marshall publicly thanked those that visited him in the hospital, a list that included the Bears’ chairman, general manager, head coach, star running back and tight end — but not Cutler — that was no accident, either.

Marshall’s frustration about his lack of production this season surfaced during that interview on WMVP-AM 1000 Monday night. Does Marshall blame Cutler for that, at least partially? You have to read between the lines. Marshall said his injured right ankle affected three games, and he left the rest open-ended.

Cutler, as we know, has been terribly inconsistent. Inaccuracy has been one of his problems. And for what it’s worth, Cutler did Marshall no favors Thursday with a high throw on fourth-and-7. Marshall had to jump for the catch and, as a result, was exposed to contact as he came down. He absorbed a knee to the back and suffered two fractured ribs and what he said was a collapsed lung.

With Marshall on injured reserve for the final three games of the season, it’s difficult to know how tension between Cutler and him would affect the team and the offense. Then again, depending on how long it has existed, one might argue this season provides sufficient evidence.

Marshall had a shelf life in Denver and Miami, and if his has expired in Chicago, that would be a significant problem. He and Cutler each are guaranteed money in 2015, so their co-existence is critical to the Bears’ chances to improve.

Two things are certain: 1) the situation warrants close monitoring going forward, and 2) this offseason requires more than just physical healing for these two vital components of the team.

It will be very interesting to see how Cutler and the wide receivers perform with Marshall – who outside of his brilliance against San Francisco has been a disappointment – on the shelf. As many have mentioned this is a prime opportunity for Marquess Wilson to emerge but I have been far more impressed with Josh Bellamy’s work in preseason than anything I’ve seen from Wilson during his tenure.

Either way, to this point the Bears have looked poor without Marshall and Jeffery both at full strength.

FINAL SCORE PREDICTION

Bears finally have a decent moment in front of a national audience and take advantage of the only team in the NFL perhaps more dysfunctional than themselves. This win gives the locker room enough energy to casually lose the final two games of the year in convincing fashion.

Chicago Bears 29, New Orleans Saints 28

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  • NewBearInTown

    Brandon Marshall had a reporter stay with him in Florida a few years ago. The reporter was desperate to get material on all the terrible issues going on in Marshall’s personal life, including issues with his father. Marshall insisted to the reporter (who, to his credit, included the conversation in the article) that he and his father had decided to look forward and not back. He would not dwell on the bad stuff – only say that they were doing well now.

    Brandon Marshall was famously stabbed by his wife in a domestic dispute a few years ago. They remain happily married and she is one of his strongest supporters in his mental health awareness work.

    Jay Cutler had a heavily covered broken engagement with Krystin Cavalieri a few years ago. When one reporter attempted to blame Krystin for the breakup, Cutler bit his head off proclaiming what a wonderful person she was and how the relationship issues were a private matter. They reunited and are now parents of a growing family.

    In their personal lives, Jay and Brandon have both shown a remarkable ability to forgive and move on. They have also shown a fierce loyalty to their loved ones in refusing to discuss dirty laundry with the media. Both can be whiny when it comes to professional issues, but they have been through difficult times before and always emerged.

    They will be fine. This is just folks get irritated with each other when the team is struggling. If they start winning, it all goes away.

    • BearDown100393

      His best friend was in the hospital with broken ribs and a collapsed lung and didn’t visit? That is correct right?

      • NewBearInTown

        On the one hand, that doesn’t sound good. On the other, I believe he was there for one night. I have no idea what Jay had going on.
        If I told you that Jay called Marshall the night he was in the hospital, apologized for not being able to come visit because of commitments with his family (or whatever) and wished him well after a ten minute conversation, then would you have a problem with it?
        Just saying. Don’t let the media read too much into one thing or another.

        • BearDown100393

          I have no idea which is why I posed the question. No judgement toward Jay Cutler. As quoted earlier, Marshall claims he always has purpose to what he says. He was reported to thank members of the Bears for visiting him. Cutler was not mentioned.

          • BillW

            There is a purpose for him not mentioning Jay. The guy had a disappointing season and had it abruptly end. Tillman cried when his season ended. Marshall reacted this way perhaps. It’s a human emotion. I’m not going to bash a guy for being human.

    • Viva

      Well said.

  • BillW

    Jeff it sounds like you are saying cutler needs the team to be above average in all phases in order for him to be successful.

    The Bears are paying him to be a difference maker. Not a guy where the rest of the team makes him look good

    • DaBearsBlog

      This is the cardinal mistake I believe people make. Allowing nearly 40 points a game is historically terrible. This is not a “below average” defense. The defense is below average in the wins the last two years. When this team is blown out the team is historically horrible.

      And no, Jay is paid what all good starting QBs are paid. He is not paid to overcome horrendous defensive play.

      • BearDown100393

        The Bears season high for points scored is 28 which has been accomplished twice. The quarterback position has turned over the football 21 times, leading the league to date, correct? He was paid to lead an offense to score more than 28 as a ceiling number (matters little now if the offense scores 50 or 100/game in the next 3 after being officially eliminated other than hope for better next season). And obviously not turn over the football so consistently. The defense was historically bad. That is not on him. An anemic offense along with not protecting the football are his responsibility. And that cannot happen again next season.

        • DaBearsBlog

          He’s turned the ball over at almost the same rate his entire career. So I’m not sure why expectations were for anything different.

          The offense has been putrid.

          • BearDown100393

            It does not seem unreasonable to suggest that a veteran quarterback improves upon correctable bad habits over time. Protecting the football is rather important. And it does not require physical skill either. Sure he is going to throw interceptions. And yes perhaps that gets rather over scrutinized. However learning to not hold on to the football like a loaf bread while scrambling might be an asset.

        • Peanut FTW

          In the end, the average ppg don’t really matter. We could have scored 40 points in about 5 of those games and still lost. NE, both Packer games, Miami and the Lions. In each of those games the defense just got steamrolled.

          Yes, Atlanta started to come back against GB and make the game appear close, but the biggest reason Atlanta was able to surge was because their defense was getting stops. They were inspiring the O and telling them, there is a reason for you to put 7 more up there.

          Look at the Lions game, the offense starts to move the ball again, gets within 7 points in the 3rd and has a great punt to pin the Lions at their own 5. Then the D proceeds to blow donkeys, allow a 95 yd drive and get us back down by 14.

          The media needs stories to write about, if there isn’t one there they will make it up. Many times they will cherry pick facts and statistics to make it look like a real story. But have no doubt, this season was miserable because of an incompetent Bears defense. Everything else is smoke and mirrors.

          • BearDown100393

            It matters when assessing if an offense on its own is improving or regressing. Clearly this offense is regressing compared to last season. And that has zero to do with a horrible defense. The offense alone is not adequate for a team with winning aspirations even with a decent defense. It needs to get better. Is the defense worse? Definitely. But even so does not exonerate an underachieving offense.

          • Peanut FTW

            Most offenses that are super successful for one season or so, regress. The wildcat, the read option, even currently to some degree, the Chip Kelley speed offense is beginning to regress. Add in two start receivers hobbled for half the season and a makeshift offensive line and the regression is more severe. The point is, until you can force opposing teams to you know, punt a couple times a half, it doesn’t matter if you fix the offense.

          • BillW

            Of course PPG matters. Not to wins / losses obviously but It tells you if the problem is offense, defense, or both.

          • Peanut FTW

            It can tell you that if it is consistent yes. So say you shoot defensively for not allowing more than 20PPG? And on offense, you should try to score 24PPG. Then by going off of those marks you can tell how short the O or the D are falling in hitting those.

            But it can also get skewed easily in situations like say, the Pats game. If you are down over 40 points by half, your second half offense becomes very predictable and you probably aren’t going to be able to run a normal offense. And when you have multiple games like that in a 16 game schedule it can make those numbers mean very little.

          • BillW

            Cause and effect is a bitch, I know. I deal with it every day.

            You can’t be done 40 points without the offense contributing to that wide of a margin.

          • Peanut FTW

            To the PPG subject, we are right in the middle of the league on O, tied with Cincy. On D, we are dead last, we allow 29.1 PPG and in a few of those games the other team ran 2nd stringers in the 4th. So it is actually even worse. There are only a handful of offenses in the league that have enough PPG on Offense to overcome that, and most of those PPG marks are due to getting to play our defense.

          • BillW

            Put it another way – what would you say if Tucker said “it doesn’t matter how many points we give up. PPG doesn’t matter given the offense is underperforming.

          • BerwynBomber

            “In the end, the average ppg don’t really matter.”

            It probably doesn’t matter much in regard to the win column but it matters greatly in evaluating Cutler’s play.

      • BillW

        “He needs a complete team to be successful. He and about 28 other starting QBs.”

        I would hope Jay would be considered to be in a group more distinctive than “28 other starting QBs.”

        I am neither a Jay supporter or basher. My position is simple – he is nowhere near what I thought he’d be but he’s the best option we have and much better than the roll call of Bear QBs they used to show during games.

      • BerwynBomber

        No. The cardinal mistake is excusing Cutler’s play because of our historically bad defense. No one denies the latter. But they are two different things. The offense, as you admitted below, has been “putrid”. That falls directly on the QB and HC and OC.

      • BlameAngelo

        Look at the Cards. All defense, no offense. They’ll be at the dance.

    • DaBearsBlog

      But Jay is not Rodgers, Brady, Manning. He needs a complete team to be successful. He and about 28 other starting QBs.

  • Viva

    Bullsce 105
    Nets 80

    Alright. I cheated. The game was played last night.

  • Viva

    Blackhawkcse 3
    Bruins 2

  • Viva

    Dave Toub for HC.

    • BerwynBomber

      You are nothing if not consistent. Well, insistent too.

      • CanadaBear

        I agree with both of ya! I thought Toub would have been an inspired choice. Arians was the obvious choice. The ST’s coach deals with every facet of the roster, has to game plan four different parts of the game and has to change things on the fly. Toub’s players were always prepared and usually one step ahead of the opposition at all times.

        • Viva

          That is how you win.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    Bears 21
    Saints 17

    A win is a win…I’d like to see one.

    Players don’t have to be friends nor do they even have to like each other to play well together. I think if the Bears can fix a few problems, the Cutler-Marshall connection will be just fine and will perform as expected. I don’t really care about what happens off the field as long as they do well on it.

    • BearDown100393

      Cutler – Marshall was not fine on the field this year. Unless this year is just a fluke and attributed to injuries to the WR position, why should next season be any better, especially if the play caller remains the same?

      • Bears-4-Ever

        Marshall was not 100% this year by any stretch. Cutty was not on his game either in regards to him. Jeff eluded to the horrible Defensive performance this year as well…Yeah they had a bad year but both players have the very realistic ability to bring it back on track. Other issues on the Bears need to be addressed, I wouldn’t be worried about the Cutty-Marshall connection as much as several other glaring problems the Bears currently have. 2015 is not going be a big turn around year…2016 though HAS TO BE.

  • BerwynBomber

    I’m on the fence about Cutler EXCEPT when it comes to his crippling salary. And please, spare me the “it’s brilliant on the back-end or the look at BALT and Flacco’s” nonsense. Neither excuses it. It is bad. Period. Jay is better than half the QBs in the league. He is also worse than half the QBs in the league. His salary over-addresses one part of that reality. It turns a blind eye to the other.

    Btw, one negative of Cutty’s play this year that you failed to mention (unless the fourth bullet is an attempt at it) is Jay’s inability to move the offense at will and score when the game is in doubt. Or to put it another way: we have yet to see this “we can win shootouts” offense that seemed such off-season promise of this current team’s construction. To me that has been as large of an indictment of his play as the TO’s; maybe even larger. But I would also say that it falls on Trestman and Kromer equally as well. So the three of them are most at fault there.

    But yes Cutty is certainly a damned if you do/damned if you don’t proposition but at this point I would lean toward a Kyle Orton type for half the money/half the commitment while using the savings to rebuild the D while looking for a QB in the next few drafts.

    That said, I don’t know how you get out from under the contract and if I have a choice between Cutler and Orton straight up I am of course choosing Cutler.

    • Peanut FTW

      I’m done with Cutler. The problem is now, what fing choice is there? There really isn’t even a decent option out there…. maybe Sanchez after the season, I dunno.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, but you can’t get rid of Cutler with his contract. And most people would choose Cutler over Sanchez on a pure player-to-player analysis. I guess it comes down to how much money would be saved against the cap if Cutty is gone next year. Otherwise, I think #6 plays out his contract here.

      • Old broken romanian Jericho

        dude

        • Old broken romanian Jericho

          I know you’re hurting right now and have lost confidence and faith in Jay but to then go out to the bar, get slammed on Kamikaze’s and then bang the ugliest, most desperate pig at the bar???? Dude.

      • Old broken romanian Jericho

        BearDown1023300440 you simply can’t upvote this god damn post. Fucking SANCHEZ???? Have you no fucking shame?

        • Peanut FTW

          Im not saying I’d rather have Sanchez… I’m saying at the end of this season for veterans, he’s probably about it for options to Cutty.

          • BerwynBomber

            For what Sanchez is being paid to what Cutler is being paid, I’d take Sanchez in a heartbeat. And so would, I presume, 32 GMs across the league. Unfortunately, that option was there last year. Not this coming year.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            on that note i’m going to go drink anti freeze. That post, just now, is simply the dumbest thing I’ve read in the last 7 days. An entire week and you have won the prize.
            32 GM’s across the league would take MARK SANCHEZ over Jay Cutler………
            My god, you now have the credibility of a Berwyn city council member.

        • BearDown100393

          Good afternoon. I agree with you. The post does not deserve one upvote but rather two simply for its first sentence which is spot on. I will log out and add the extra upvote. Thank you for noting the needed correction.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            The first sentence is negated by the last sentence and by rule must result in “no upvote”.

          • BearDown100393

            Well that may be your opinion. However you are not the thought police here and have zero influence on what I choose to upvote.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            Haha, rescind!

    • BlameAngelo

      Why “of course” are you choosing Cutty over Orton? Cutty can only beat bad teams and he loses games. Kyle doesn’t lose games by himself, never has. He looks after the ball, unlike Cutler.

  • BerwynBomber

    NO sucks. But they also have two high-quality wins this year against GB and PITT (and the latter was on the road). I think the Bears can win but if Brees gets going and Graham is healthy … watch out.

    Btw, NO’s larger problem seems the same every year: they are bottom feeder when it comes to their D. They never have a really good one and most often it is a bad one. Even the SB-winning team a half decade ago was only a little above average on that front.

    • BillW

      I honestly don’t care if they win or lose. I will watch and will want them to win as I watch, but it’s not like winning solves anything.

      I suspect a LOT of no-shows given it’s Monday night near the holidays. My prediction is at least 15,000.

      Tickets can be had REAL cheap on the exchanges. Under $50 for decent seats (in the section our tickets are in).

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, doesn’t surprise me about the tickets. I’m half-tempted to go myself but unfortunately Monday work might eat into my free time.

        • CanadaBear

          I used to visit my sister in Chicago back in the ’70’s when the Cubs were in town. My brother-in-law and I would take the train, sit in the bleachers day after day and get completely ripped (beers were $1 for a 20 oz draft). By the time we got back to their place we’d spent less than $20 a piece. Saw a lot of bad baseball but had a great time.

          I think a discounted seat would be great as long as you didn’t get too upset by the play on the field.

          • BerwynBomber

            Hell, stuff on the field I could even rationalize if Brees goes off as seeing any HoF QB perform well in person is not totally without merit for the old memory bank. But knowing my luck even he will stink it up too.

          • BillW

            A nice Fall Sunday afternoon – yes.

            Monday night in December?

          • CanadaBear

            I totally get that. I never went to a game after October. I have no issue with being outdoors in cold weather as long as I’m generating some body heat. Pretty tough to do sitting in the stands. Of course, with the right amount of blackberry brandy …

    • SC Dave

      Funny what shutting down bounty hunting did to that defense, eh? Poltroons – they deserve as many beat-downs as possible.

    • BlameAngelo

      Who is always mentioned in the elite QB bracket? Mr. Drew Brees. How awesome are they looking? No defense, no chance at the dance.

      Now you take the Bears squad with Orton and put Cutty’s picks into that D ….. you’re always in with a shout, just like the Urlacher D wiping Grossman’s ass week in week out.

  • BillW

    Can we all please stop using our historically bad defense as an excuse for our disappointing offense??

    • Peanut FTW

      No, it is a reason. Bad specials have also hurt. You can’t take field position and the inability to make the other team punt out of the equation. There are three phases for a reason.

      • BillW

        Field position and number of possessions do factor in I agree.

        But are you saying given that the offense is doing just fine?

        • BillW

          I mentioned this before. Points per possession or percent yards needed per possession would be interesting and maybe enlightening statistics.

        • Peanut FTW

          No, the offense is struggling, they are underperforming for their collective salary, no question. What I’m saying is it is very hard to tell what the offense is even capable of when the game’s continue to get so out of hand. When the Defense shows no signs of being able to ever stop the other team, don’t you think that gets pretty damn frustrating for our O? A bad defense would be one thing, but not being able to make GB punt for 6 consecutive quarters, that would begin to make any offensive player start thinking, what’s the fing point?

          • defense showed up in the first half of the dallas game. would’ve been nice if the office did the same outside of 1 drive.

          • BerwynBomber

            Precisely. What is frustrating is that the “win a shootout” offense has only shown up once the entire year when a game was still in question: that was the first half of the first Cheese game. Doesn’t excuse our historically bad D. Fuck, it’s a joke. But the offense has been disappointing given all that was dumped into it.

          • Peanut FTW

            I think they allowed Dallas to go the F off for 21 points in the 3rd? Then our offense scored 21 in the 4th and the D allowed another 6.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, but I would take garbage time points with a grain of salt. We were down 31-7 at the start of the fourth. Moreover, Dallas’s D is rather stinko itself.

          • Peanut FTW

            So,what your saying is… it really doesn’t matter how much we scored there because we were down 31-7… because of the defense.

          • BillW

            Atlanta was an onside kick away from a great upset because of what they did in garbage time against GB. (Right Cheesy?)

          • BerwynBomber

            Ummm no. I”m saying I would not put too much stock in scoring points in garbage time. I would believe in those points more — in evaluating the offense — if we scored up front when it was still a competitive game. But it is hard to put much stock in points generated once the game is essentially over.

            Again, I think you are making this entirely about a win/loss proposition. One can judge the offense objectively while being completely aware that the defense is historically bad. And as I mentioned elsewhere only ONCE the entire season has the offense shown it is shootout-capable when the game was on the line. That was the first half of the first Cheese game. Sorry, but we paid for and were promised much, much more than that.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            other teams are allowed to continue to fight and play like the Falcons against GB even though they were getting fucking stomped in the first half. Apparently the Bears aren’t allowed to continue to play football when trailing.
            The difference is that in our game against the Cowboys we start coming back at a furious pace and then the D proceeds to give up 2 consecutive 70+ yard drives for TD’s after we had driven down the field twice in a row….laughable.
            With this D I guess being down 10 to 14 is garbage time then.

          • yeah. 3rd quarter was garbage, and that right-before-the-half-TD sucked, too. but the D started off pretty solid and the O didn’t do anything when they were getting the ball back.

          • BillW

            If there is anyone on the offense thinking “what’s the f’ing point” and have that affect their play, they are the first ones to let go at the end of the season.

            If that’s Cutler, then so be it.

          • Peanut FTW

            Every single person thinks it, regardless of if they let it show through in their play or not is the only question.

          • BillW

            Which is where they need a team leader.

            Opposite side of the ball, but Buffone regularly says:
            You didn’t DARE dog it on defense because you’d have to deal with Butkus on the sideline.

          • Peanut FTW

            Personality differences, different era. Those days are over, you saw the Martin crap. Nowadays I could go to the sideline and tell Butkus to get bent and there’s jack he could do about it without being thrown out of the league.

          • BillW

            Dealing with Butkus never meant physical violence, I can only assume you’re too young to have seen him play.

          • CanadaBear

            Pretty sure he’d still kick your ass and he’s in his 70’s.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, I don’t know Peanut. I hear your argument but the Lovie D’s had to deal with that on the flip side for years: constantly stop opposing offenses and create TOs and points only to see our O’s do nothing. And those Lovie Ds never seemed to take their foot off the gas except late in the season when it seemed less a matter of frustration with their own offense and more about wearing down from being on the field so long.

          • Peanut FTW

            The Lovie D hardly ever allowed the Offense to be ‘out’ of a game. The offense would blow the games on their own… that would be a great time on when you can evaluate you offense. We hardly ever have it.

    • BerwynBomber

      Exactly. They are two different things.

    • Peanut FTW

      For me, to put it as simply as I can I would give this offense a C- and I was expecting an A. The defense I was expecting a C and I got an F. So while I am highly disappointed in both, one needs a wtf discussion and the other needs a trip to the wood shed. (not with Adrian Peterson though)

      • BillW

        Well said.

  • BillW

    Let me try to frame things this way:
    If the offense had performed points or even yardage wise like we expected – even if off from last year’s great results – the dialog would be very different.

    We’d probably be in the playoff hunt; maybe falling short, but believing that Emery would just need to keep building the defense. Trestman would be seen as a solid offensive coach and we’d feel replacing Tucker would make us a serious contender in 2015.

    Instead we have this…

    • Peanut FTW

      I doubt the season would look much different with better offensive performance. I’d give you Buffalo and maybe Carolina, the rest would probably be the same. Would I rather be 7-6, on the outside looking in, with the same miserable D? I don’t know. I almost think the failure being apparent will bring change faster than some mediocre result. This defense just brings me down, it’s so hopeless.

      • BillW

        Forget the record – focus on our 2015 prospects and revised expectations.

        Using your grading system, let’s say the offense was a B or even B-. Defense an F.

        Whatever the record, we wouldn’t be calling for Trestman to be fired. We’d be excited about getting a real DC to go along with our above average offense and we’d be feeling great about 2015.

        I contend in reality it’s the offense underachieving that has us depressed. Otherwise we’d simply feel it will take a bit more time to rebuild the defense.

        • Peanut FTW

          True, but in the end; I don’t think it would change much. Currently, Tucker is gone and probably DeCam, in this alternate situation.. same thing.
          So I guess the only thing that might change would be expectations for 2015 like you said, but really, in 6 months all of pour expectations will be sky high anyway. The new coordinators and draft picks are going to turn this whole thing around… right?

          • BillW

            I’m enjoying the debate. Love getting your point of view.

            We’ll see what DC we get. My concern, like others, is Trestman’s perceived lame duck status is going to hurt there. If the offense didn’t fall down so unexpectedly, we wouldn’t be dealing with that.

          • Peanut FTW

            Yah but the DC of the Bears… thats a pretty coveted job one would think. Especially for a guy that’s been a year or two out like Wade Phillips. I think they will be okay for applicants.

          • BillW

            Hope you’re right!

          • CanadaBear

            It will be the exact same scenario as replacing Lovie’s OC. Not exactly comforting.

    • Old broken romanian Jericho

      please acknowledge that Marshall and Jeffery were healthy the whole year in 2013 and the offensive line played the entire year together healthy until the last game….which we were winning with 38seconds to go.
      This year the entire WR corps goes down in the first game, Marshall played incredibly hurt this year and Jeffery has been dinged up all year as well.
      Not an excuse but it is a fact that it has an impact.

      • BillW

        Absolutely. A lot of factors went into the disappointing offense. I don’t put Cutler in the top 5 even. But I do put Trestman there.

      • last year the offense stayed freakishly healthy. This year it’s been freakishly hurt (only 1 of top 6 OL has stayed healthy. None of top 5 WRs have stayed healthy. #2 TE went down).

        So what we saw last year is the ceiling for this offense, this year is much closer to the floor.

        • BearDown100393

          Yes, the offense was indeed healthy the entire last season, and yet the Bears finished 8-8 and missed the playoffs. So we are witnessing back to back seasons of contrasting health situations yet ending with the same result – missing the playoffs.

          • the defense was really hampered by injury last year, especially in their key players.
            Of course, that repeated itself this year. That’s what happens when your best players are all old.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            now, go one step further with your logic progression and spell out main reason….you’re right there, just put your thinking cap on and finish it off….

        • Old broken romanian Jericho

          i’m on the 2015/16 band wagon. This was just a tough year.

          • I think that they could possibly contend for a wild card next year if everything falls right. That would require a new defensive coach to coax a nice leap out of a number of young defenders and Trestman to pull his head out of his ass on offense, plus a lot of health luck.

  • BerwynBomber

    Speaking of DCs for next year, you know who might be a good one? Freaking Gym Shorts. Yeah, I know. You get all the childish bullshit that comes with him but he seems to be doing okay with Buffalo’s and had a hand in building up the Kittens. I wouldn’t want the man ever again near an HC gig but as a DC he might be half-decent from what we’ve seen.

    • CanadaBear

      Guessing he’s tied to Buffalo for a couple more years. Decent DC but too much of a tool for me. When he had his D carry him off the field after their win against Detroit, I thought “some things never change.”

      • BerwynBomber

        Oh yeah, as coaches go he might be the biggest tool out there. Just thought I’d toss another log on the fire of potential prospects. But yes, who knows how tied he is to Buffalo. Still, they are playing good D up there. I would not be surprised if they keep the Cheese somewhat in check this Sunday and make it a nail-biter,

  • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

    “Jay Cutler has yet to have a well-built team during his Bears tenure”, well if that were the case, Rodgers hasn’t been “walking in the paradise” last 3 or two years, and GB always “graps” a place to the playoffs at least.

    • BillW

      At this point I think most people look at Rodgers as a god among mortal QBs. And that any success he has is an exception to how things normally happen.

      I’m not being sarcastic – you can count me in that group. He’s just that much better.

      And despite that, he has no more SB wins than Trent Dilfer, Joe Flacco, Doug Williams, etc. And less than Eli Manning.

    • nobody is comparing Cutler to Rodgers, or at least they shouldn’t be. All you can say there is “Jay Cutler is not Aaron Rodgers, and he never will be.”
      To me, Cutler is a lot like Romo, Ryan, Stafford, Eli, Flacco, Ben, Kaepernick, Rivers, Cam, etc. Not saying he’s as good as all those guys (though I would say he’s better than a few of them), just hear me out.
      All those guys are capable of leading good solid contenders if you build a really good team around them. All of them are capable of starting all 16 games for a bad team if the talent around them is bad.
      They’re not Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, or Luck. Those 4 are always on good teams just because of their presence. As long as they’re healthy, their team is good. They’re not Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker, etc., where their presence as the starting QB means the team sucks, regardless of the rest of the talent.

      • NewBearInTown

        The problem with QBs in the league today is that economics have forced teams to pay Peyton Manning and Jay Cutler the same salary.
        Because of that reality, fans often miss that Jay Cutler is not Peyton Manning, can’t play like Manning and won’t be asked to do what Manning does.
        In a perfect world, Cutler would make something like $8-10M a year and we’d use the extra cash to get better players elsewhere. But that is not the reality in the modern NFL. There is not QB middle class in terms of pay, even if there is in terms of play.

        • yep. I openly wondered last offseason if we’re gonna see a few years down the road that these huge contracts for non-elite QBs doom those franchises to mediocrity.

          Kind of saw this last year. The contenders all had either elite veteran QBs or solid QBs on cheap rookie deals.The bad teams mostly had bad QBs.

          The teams with highly paid non-elite veterans were mostly in the middle, with a few in the playoffs (though none going very far there) and a few in the top 10 of the draft.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            The “solid” QB’s on rookie deals had insanely effective run games and league leading defenses.
            Luck took over a team that had dominated a weak AFC South for a decade straight. Luck cannot be added into a conversation with Rodgers, Manning and Brady.
            I don’t even think Brees should be in this top end conversation. Brees and Ryan are completely average outside of their domes.

          • I’ve long thought Brees was a step below those top 3. I’m almost ready to put Luck up there, though he’s probably not quite at their level yet.

          • SC Dave

            A team that dominated the division for exactly one reason – Peyton Manning. That team had four extra wins every season because he was on the roster.

            As soon as he got hurt, they went 2-14.

            And to anticipate the inevitable “suck for Luck” arguments, it would seem that had they kept Peyton, Indy probably would have continued winning 11 to 13 games a season.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            Dave, let’s give the Billionaires that were running the Colts a little credit. They kept CURTIS PAINTER in at quarterback when they could have easily gotten a more capable vet backup to play and win some games. They still had pro bowlers on O and D. They CHOSE to lose those games because their management, who are much more intelligent and strategic than you and I, wanted ANDREW LUCK as Peyton Manning’s successor…..and they got him by executing their strategy.

        • Old broken romanian Jericho

          I belive that is because there are only about 20 people in the world that can really do what these guys do. How are you supposed to risk not having that type of player in that supremely important position by not offering to pay the going rate?

          • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

            Agree, I’d like to watch Patriots and Denver’s life after Brady and Manning.

          • johnnywad

            That’s been my point for a while now. There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding between expensive and overpaid

      • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

        Agree with your point, but What I mean is that we have to stop excusing Cutler as a player. no one can expect waiting till have “the planets alingned” to deliver, and less After almost 10 years of being pro. he should have developed reading and leadership skills in time as any QB with his experience as a incumbent. in that case we must stop ripping Cutler and turning to Emery who gave him the “Keys of the offensive” and that huge “pay check”.

      • Cutler is better than Kaep, about equal to Stafford/Cam (at this point in their careers), and inferior to the rest.
        Ben, Eli and Flacco aren’t world beaters, but they have proven to be clutch when it counts. It’d probably take them over Peyton in the play-offs.
        Rivers and Ryan are a bit different, but I’d take either right now over Cutler for various reasons.

        Luck actually reminds me a lot of Cutler, except he has that je ne sais quoi which makes him NOT Cutler.

        • johnnywad

          Stop saying je ne sais quoi

    • DaBearsBlog

      What is the Bears fan obsession with Aaron Rodgers? 31 teams would trade their quarterback right now for Aaron Rodgers. Jay Cutler is not Aaron Rodgers.

      • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

        sadly Cutler, aside physical talent that is unquestionable, doesn’t bring those intanglibles Rodgers has or develop. not even half of them. but you are right Jeff, who wouldn’t like Aaron Rodgers.

      • BerwynBomber

        Hated rival. But yes it is absurd. The comparisons are unfair to Jay and frankly insulting to Rodgers (not that we care about #12). But yes, it is a silly, redundant diametric.

        The Cutler/Stafford comparison is a much more realistic, valuable one.

  • Shady
  • So I finally ran the numbers on run/pass balance in the 1st half and how that corresponds to offensive performance. Pretty much the same in terms of scoring as total game numbers. Interestingly, the turnover differential went away, which suggests that arises from chucking it up in the 2nd half more than the 1st half.

    http://dabearsbeat.com/2014/12/11/the-bears-need-to-call-more-1st-half-runs/

    • BillW

      Just read it – GREAT stuff! Not just the data but the concise way you present it and prove the point. You’d fit in very well in the analytics group where I work.

    • Peanut FTW

      Great work. I wish the NFL would track screen passes as a separate stat. I think some offenses use them as an outside run game, more than just blitz beaters. It would be interesting to see how much Trestman is overly reliant on those in the games where he is pass happy.

      • Old broken romanian Jericho

        i’m sorry but that just smacks of a fantasy football mentality. Football plays are football plays. If you have the weapons to run screens, short passes, etc effectively who cares how they are characterized?
        The whole run/pass ratio thinking is inappropriate in my opinion and it’s a non starter. It’s about the types of plays that are called against certain teams and in certain situations depending on personnel.

        • there definitely is situational context involved, but run/pass ratio is definitely appropriate. The less you run, the more teams come after your QB. There’s more to it than just run/pass, but balance is important, which is why teams with great QBs still bother running the ball.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            there are ways to get the balls to all of your playmakers without taking the risk of 15-30yd passes.
            The Packers play the short and short/mid pass game to perfection and it’s the perfect extension to their run game. The Cowboys do the same with Murray when needed.
            Lacy and Murray get really good depth on their dump off routes and it means that almost every time they touch it in the pass game it’s 5.5yds or more.
            I fucking love watching that Packers offense. If they need 4 yards those WR’s and RB’s get fucking depth to 5or 6 and get that first down on a quick pass.
            If the Bears simply worked to get another 1.5yds of depth on RB and short TE passes it would change the whole dynamic of the offense. It’s that simple.

          • Peanut FTW

            ….and stop committing drive stalling penalties.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            i would like to see a stat on which team has given up the most amount of first downs despite the other team committing a penalty. We have to be way up there. The Cowboys game was fantastic. I think we gave up first downs on 3rd and 10, 3rd and 15 and 3rd and 19 not to mention 2 4th down conversions on one drive alone.

          • the Packers also run the ball a lot more than the Bears. So do the Patriots and Broncos. Hell, so do the Colts.
            All of them have stud QBs and not stud RBs. Bears have a stud RB and not stud QB. Bears also have an idiot for an OC (though IND does too, it’s just he’s a run-happy idiot).

          • BillW

            By idiot OC you mean Kromer? Or are you saying Trestman as the de facto OC?

          • Trestman as the playcaller. He’s been horrible this year.

          • Peanut FTW

            Part of the reason those teams can all run the ball more effectively is because of their stud QB. Noone is going to dare Peyton or Rodgers to beat them, they are going to play soft and make them run the ball and take the dump offs.

          • BerwynBomber

            Let’s be honest/fair though. A lot of that running comes when those teams have a lead, especially a sizable one. And just as a comp, I still wouldn’t be surprised if Forte has rushed for more yards than Lacy this year.

          • Denver and GB have both come out running early in many of their latest games. They establish the run and THEN open up the passing game. Novel idea, I know.

          • BillW

            Requires timing; for some reason that seems off this year;

            Maybe always was?

            I read a couple places that Cutler’s real weakenss is not turnovers but inability to hit receivers when they are on the run; never broke it down but since I read that it’s has seemed to be true.

          • Peanut FTW

            No stats here to back any of this up but, imo I think Cutler hits his throws much better when he puts air under the ball. He seems to get in trouble with the frozen rope throws. The funny thing is Humperdink is the exact opposite, he is money with the darts but if he tries to put air under it, his accuracy goes in the shitter.

          • BlameAngelo

            He’s perhaps even more inaccurate on the floaters and rainbows. He is an inaccurate passer, makes crappy decisions, cannot audible to save his life, and is not a winner. Know who’s the opposite of all that? Kyle Orton. And back around the houses we go.

          • TheBigCheesy

            The packers are not a great example to make your point. Rodgers already has the record for most career 70+ yard TDs. Rodgers also has the highest y/pa in the modern era while still having a modest completion percentage….The packers live off of the deep ball. Jordy Nelson has 9 TDs at lam beau this year. Only one of them has gone for less than 40 yards.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            they are a fucking awesome example my little cheeseball. The Packers take what is given to them. Just because Rodgers has a record for most 70+ yard balls doesn’t mean shit. Think about that asinine comment. How many 70+ yard balls does he have in his career and then calculate that as a percentage of all the passes he’s thrown. Idiotic.
            They are great at the long ball but consistently move the chains with shorter passes including slants, crossing routes and dump offs. Then they have the courage to take it deep.

          • TheBigCheesy

            you are such a meatstick sometimes. Rodgers is 2nd only to Cam Newton among 21st century QBs in yards per completion… That means he goes downfield more often than everyone not named cam newton.

            Can the packers operate the short passing game successfully? Obviously, but that’s because Aaron Rodgers does pretty much EVERYTHING successfully. but to single the packers out as a team who “takes what the defense gives them” and “gets the ball to their playmakers without going 15-30 yards downfield”….. THAT is asinine. Honestly, you could make the case that the only way the packers ever routinely get the ball to their best player (jordy Nelson) is by going down field (nelson’s career yards per reception is 9th among active players)..Hence my comment that the packers are a bad example to make your point.

            It’s kind of like the stupid statistic that announcers ALWAYS use when they warn defenses against blitzing aaron Rodgers: “don’t blitz Aaron Rodgers because he has the highest career passer rating against the blitz”. Aaron rodgers has the highest career passer rating PERIOD. Is he ESPECIALLY good against the blitz? Maybe, but that statistic is not evidence to support that hypothesis.

          • BillW

            Especially when you’re running out of the shotgun with the line in a pass blocking stance and no lead blocker.

          • Peanut FTW

            That be as stupid as calling playaction passes when you haven’t run the ball the entire game.

          • BillW

            Which brings me back to what I said to Johnny earlier; I don’t put Cutler in the top five reason the offense has disappointed.

            In no particular order, I think it’s:
            Field position
            Injuries to WR and OL
            Play calling
            Slow starts
            Drive stalllers (turnovers and penalties)

            So maybe Cutler is in the top five (turnovers). I can’t think of anything else that is not directly part of these five things. But Jeff said Cutler’s TO ratio is the same as always (hard to believe but I’ll take his word).

          • Peanut FTW

            I think it depends on if you look at his fumbles, that total margin is up but if you strictly look at TD- INT ratio he is giving exactly what you would expect. I don’t like Cutler, but part of me wants him to go off in these last three games and end up with close to 40 TDs, just to hear how they can twist that into a bad thing.

          • SC Dave

            I would move slow starts above play calling for sure. How many early drives have been stalled because of stupid penalties and dropped passes? A shit load.

          • It’s all so interconnected. Tough to isolate any one thing.

          • his INT percentage right now is his 2nd lowest in Chicago. It’s just that he’s throwing SO DAMN MUCH his total INTs are up.

            The fumbles are highest of his career though. That’s been a huge problem, especially early in the season (it’s calmed down since the bye).

  • Hoping the Cutler/Marshall bromance irons itself out this offseason. I’m kind of amazed we haven’t seen more blowups from Marshall this year given the nature of his disease (makes for extremely volatile personalities) and the frustrating nature of this season for him both personally and as a team. Shows me he must have it under pretty good control.

  • AlbertInTucson

    I believe I watched evey episode of STUDIO 60…. Also BAY CITY BLUES about the minor league basball team.

  • Great takes on Cutler. You can definitely make a real argument on both sides, which says… they’re both wrong. It’s the middle. Cutler isn’t great. Cutler doesn’t suck. He is what he is.

  • I’m starting to come around on the idea the Bears might have a shot in this game. On paper, they absolutely do not. The matchups say this should go about like the DAL games last week.
    But NO is falling apart at the seams just like CHI is.
    I’m still picking NO just because I don’t trust CHI to even slow Brees down a bit.

  • Big Mike

    Where has Khaseem Greene gone?

    • GPLDAN

      Same place as Joe Dimaggio?

      • Big Mike

        Funny, but seriously, I thought that guy showed promise and it was just a numbers game. Wouldn’t he be behind McClellin? I forgot his natural position..

        • Old broken romanian Jericho

          his natural position is fat safety in the Big East.

        • I know a guy who swears Greene profiles as a Mike, but Bears always worked him at Will behind Briggs.
          He’s fallen WAY out of favor. Inactive behind DeDe Lattimore last week. He’ll likely be cut in camp next year, IMO.
          Before the NYJ game, Brad Biggs had a fantastic piece about Greene. He was roommates and best friends with Eric LeGrand, that Rutgers guy who was paralyzed on the field a few years ago. Greene almost quit football after that, and 2 years later was still talking about how much it impacted him mentally and how he was STILL trying to get over it.
          In a game where you have to play with no fear, I wonder how much that impacted him. He was better in college as a junior than senior (the paralysis happened near end of his junior year). Almost everybody considered him a steal when Bears got him in round 4.

          • Big Mike

            I remember the LeGrand connection, didn’t know it tied into the fall off his senior year. I knew at the draft his stock dropped because of his senior year. Had not connected that to his pro performance. So he’s likely to be an Emery bust… interesting.

          • I don’t know for sure if that’s the reason. Maybe he just wasn’t cut out for the NFL. But I remember reading that article, seeing some of Greene’s quotes, and thinking “yeah, he’s never gonna make it in the NFL if that’s the case.” Let me see if I can find that article.

          • ok, so it’s based on quotes from his uncle, who was described as a “father figure” to Greene: “”He doesn’t play with his heart. I think that watching LeGrand get hurt, he started playing with his head too much. He’s not having fun like he used to have fun. And that’s why he needs to let it go. Just let it go.”

            Greene’s response? “That’s a fair assessment. My uncle is my biggest critic. He’s always on top of everything.”

            Other comments from Greene in the article: “It broke me… You start questioning everything. Is it worth it? Do I want to do this?”

            Then his description of playing after the injury: “I wasn’t wrapping up. I was just throwing my body or whiffing just because I was scared.”

            To be fair, the article also talks about how LeGrand has told him to move on and he’s tried. But I think he never did. Just a theory, I certainly can’t prove it, but that’s my $0.02.

            Article is behind a pay wall, but you can google Eric LeGrand’s spirit plays through Khaseem Greene and click on it directly from Google to get around that if you want to read it: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-khaseem-greene-special-bears-spt-0921-20140921-story.html#page=1

          • It’s sorta like when Hester witnessed Knox’s head touch the back of his ass.
            Wasn’t running those inside breaking routes with as much gusto afterwards.

          • BlameAngelo

            Khaseem Greene is a pass rusher, as is Bostic, but nobody on the Bears realized it. They’re gap blitzers, not football players. Our coaches will look at a chicken and try and make him quack. When a duck walks along they try and make it honk like a goose.

    • SC Dave

      He sucked from day 1, and I said so. He is going exactly where he should – off the team.

  • Cormonster

    Great song Blogfather. You nailed this one. I love me some Troy “Trombone Shorty” Andrews on trumpet. I seen him play two nights in Jamaica on the beach with Gov’t Mule and Eric Krasno, along with Ron Holloway on sax (formerly of Dizzy Gillespie band). He blew my socks off.

  • BillW

    Related to Jeff’s tweet – what defensive player are the Bears touting for the ProBowl? Fuller? Willie Young? Can’t think of anyone other possibilities, and both of those are a stretch.

  • Sactowns#1

    So my gal asked for a B Marsh jersey for Christmas. This is a gal who never watched football before she dated me and has learned the game by asking me a litany of questions during Bears games. She now loves Da Bears… but part of me cant stomach buying a Bears jersey right now. I want to boycott buying all things Bears until some moves are made and theres a light at the end of the tunnel. Right now all I can see is darkness and I dont want to throw good money after bad.

    • CanadaBear

      Totally understand the dilemma. It’s your Honey Bunny. Buy it.

      • BerwynBomber

        Not only that but people seem to be acting like this is the first year the Bears have ever sucked. I get the disappointment, of course, but there is a certain thick skin that has developed thru the decades.

        Imagine being a Raiders fan the last half-decade.

        • CanadaBear

          Of course, what I failed to mention is I haven’t bought any Bears gear since my stocking cap from around 1970. I’ve had a couple of things bought for me or were promo caps but that’s it. Long story.

          • BerwynBomber

            I was never a big team paraphernalia guy, even as a kid. Quite the opposite, I guess. But if I wanted a Bears cap their current record wouldn’t stop me from buying one. And that’s no criticism of Sactown. I get the pain and hurt.

            Btw, maybe such stuff is discounted now at some places. Can’t imagine it is flying off the shelves this year.

    • BearDown100393

      A Briggs probably goes cheap now.

      • BerwynBomber

        Or maybe not. Given it will be a collector’s item due to limited production.

        • BearDown100393

          Best time to pickup a cheap jersey is at training camp. Clearance prices.

        • johnnywad

          I got it BB. Well done.

      • SC Dave

        $.04

    • Shady

      Can’t go wrong with a Payton, Sayers or Butkus jersey.

      • Old broken romanian Jericho

        what? no love for the Max Komar jersey? No HIllenmeyer or Chilo Rachal? No Webb?

        • Shady

          Jay has a J’Marcus Webb jersey.

      • SC Dave

        Especially the ends of those three

    • TheBigCheesy

      I found the perfect solution:

      http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/003/148/139/2d13b1452cc0f745ea8cd7734b82be6d_crop_exact.png?w=1500&h=1500&q=85

      Now you can get her the jersey of a Bear without supporting da bears. Win-win!

    • Orange and Navy Blue lingerie.

      • BearDown100393

        Game worn, #6 issued.

    • SC Dave

      Fuck that. Buy the jersey.

  • CanadaBear
    • These motherfuckers…
      #comebackClutts

      • SC Dave

        We all so hated losing Clutts here. I would say that blog-think uniformly calls that move incomprehensible.

        Especially for some Rodriguez (Hernandez? Fuck does anyone remember or care?)!

  • OK, I’ll bite. Let’s say Cutler is Dilfer-ish. He needs a GREAT (not good) D, Specials, and surrounding weapons.
    How long will it take for us to build a great D? At least two years.
    By then, we’ll most likely have a new HC, OC, DC, maybe even GM.
    Cutler will be what, 36? in yet another system, and he won’t be any savvier than when he was 26, and more brittle.
    His contract will be expendable.

    In other words, the deathknell has already taken place.
    THIS was the year when Cutler was supposed to prove all his critics wrong. That he was indeed a “victim of circumstance”.

    Cutler only proved his critics correct. It took some longer to acknowledge this (like myself), but now that I see it as clear as day: it’s time to move on.

    Only problem is, now we can’t. Not next year at least unless some Peyton-esque QB falls in our laps, which is like winning the lottery. I already mentioned which QBs I’d take over Cutler, and the list is short, and unreachable. Cutler doesn’t suck as much as Geno Smith, though he’s no where near Vadgers either. He’s squished between. Gives you just enough to raise hopes, only to crush them. He’s like a girl who just leaves you with blue-balls. A fluffer, if you will.

    So we just gotta grin, bear it, and pretend to like it, when deep in our hearts, we’re all expecting that soul-crunching turnover from Cutler in crucial moments.

    Or, you can listen to this post in music form…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgcP3U7CYFE

    • Old broken romanian Jericho

      God damn it man, it just can’t be the worst D in the fucking league. No one will win games consistently in that situation. Were you born on the sun?

      • It won’t matter, Johnny.
        The D gives Cutler the ball more times, he’ll just turn-it over more.

        That’s why I said he needs a GREAT D, a D that can score on its own (plus some scores from specials).

        • Old broken romanian Jericho

          oh my god. that is called a normal defense on a normal 3 phase football team.

          • How about this, Johnny. I’ll make a friendly wager.
            IF Cutty doesn’t lead the league in turnovers from the Qb position after the Saint’s game, I’ll refrain from criticizing him for the last two games on Da Blog.
            HOWEVER, if Cutty still leads QBs in TOs come Tues, you can’t defend Cutty for the last two games on Da Blog, no matter how outlandish the statements.

            You also cant bolt (and neither can I) if you lose. Just gotta bear it.

            Deal?

          • To be clear, that would mean that either I won’t be able to blast Cutty for the last two weeks of the season, or you won’t be able to defend him the last two weeks of the season.

          • BerwynBomber

            Here I thought Waffle was off drinking anti-freeze on behalf of my dirty Berwyn ass.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            your post led me to look up Trent Fucking Dilfer. Jesus Christ dude just say sorry and be done with it. Unreal how unrelated those fucking guys are.

            I’ll never let you motherfuckers off the hook for insane statements. Do you even fucking remember when that fucking dickwad played? I do and it was fucking embarrassing. Look at that fucking guy’s career. Talk about riding the fucking coat tails of a run game and a dominant D.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            Pass attempts
            3,172

            Pass completions
            1,759

            Percentage
            55.5

            TD–INT
            113–129

            Passing yards
            20,518

            QB Rating
            70.2

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            GIVE ME A MOTHERFUCKING BREAK. Don’t even bother looking at the yearly breakdowns. Let’s just say he’s your typical analyst. Do as i say not as i fucking did.
            He’s the fucking Terry Bradshaw of the 21st century.

      • SC Dave

        You’re on your own here. Johnny. We would all LOVE to be wrong and see you gloat over Cutler’s pro-bowl appearances and Super Bowl MVPs. But we won’t, because it will not happen.

    • BearDown100393

      Marc Trestman is a practice oriented head coach. He loves practice. He is the inverse of Iverson. Trestman lives for watching practice tape. And he game plans based on practice observations. He seems to view games as just an opportunity to assess his progress coaching practices. Just listen to his post game press conferences. Practice. Practice. Practice. He is genuinely bewildered that his team is this bad against actual opponents because everything looks so great in practice. The defense is putrid. And yes, it is worse than the offense. Therefore, clearly the defense must not be challenged enough practicing against the offense. So yes, when practicing against a Cutler led offense, the defense looks much better than it really is. There cannot be any other explanation. Mel Tucker will be fired. Hell, he probably already has cleared off his desk. Many wonder if Jay is a coach killer. Maybe he is. Maybe he is not. Ask Mel Tucker when the season ends.

      • Shady

        “The defense is putrid. And yes, it is worse than the offense. Therefore, clearly the defense must not be challenged enough practicing against the offense. So yes, when practicing against a Cutler led offense, the defense looks much better than it really is. There cannot be any other explanation.”

        See, I look at it the other way. During practice, the offense probably looks great going against a putrid defense so the offense looks much better than it really is.

        • BearDown100393

          It really is a chicken vs egg conundrum huh?

          • Shady

            You’ve heard “Iron sharpens iron” right? This is more like “Gruel softens gruel”.

          • BearDown100393

            Cream of Wheat vs Quaker Oats

      • BlameAngelo

        Or it could be that the defensive roster is dogshit, and that because Emery wears glasses and gives good pressers people think he’s a genius.

    • I still think you can win with Cutler, but I’m with you. Barring a miracle, they’re never going to have another SB contender with him. 2010-2011 was their window.

      • John Doe

        He makes too many mistakes for any team to overcome in 3 or 4 playoff games.

        Can he string together 4 games without INTs in playoff pressure?

        I have to say your confidence in him is misplaced and generous.

  • BerwynBomber
  • Blogfather, now that you do polls on Mon, you should put one up here about Cutler.

    I know other sites have done it, but this site has a more informed citizenry, and I am very curious how it would turn out.

    • BlameAngelo

      I want to know how many fans would do the Cutler deal over. Can we make it official that we got hosed now? Finally?

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Fucking Bears…

  • BerwynBomber

    Good for Arians and the Cards but can’t say I care to see that team in the playoffs. Putrid offense, which I’m betting will put too much strain on their otherwise stellar D, which will eventually cave to a good QB/WR combo as it did the other week to Matty Ice and Julio Jones.

    Even the Grossman/Miller/Orton-led Bears didn’t look that anemic on offense.

  • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-bears-dj-williams-injured-reserve-20141211-story.html

    And Now they are going to strat puttin players out of position, this team is a fucking mess.

  • John Doe

    Tomorrow is going to be fun..

    We have OC Aaron Kromer leaking to Ian Rapoport. We then have Kromer apologizing to Cutler in front of entire offense. And then we have players in that meeting leaking the apology and details to reporters.

    Rich Campbell @Rich_Campbell · 59m59 minutes ago

    Bears OC Aaron Kromer tearfully told the entire offense Monday he criticized QB Jay Cutler to NFL Network. Story: http://trib.in/1sn6O6G

    • BerwynBomber

      Classic. Blogfather just posted a new thread (Harbaugh). Re-post it there.

  • John Doe

    If Kromer is frustrated with Jay Cutler’s play, then what about Marc Trestman and Matt Cavanaugh?

    They are in the same effing room all the time. They all must have discussed this.

    Glad this is finally out in the open.

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