• Jhull

    Ouch… Sad but true

  • Peanut FTW

    Well. I think my Bears watching season is officially over. That was just pathetic.

    This team is a gutless empty shell of a football team, maybe 5 guys on the whole team deserve to have GSH on their sleeve. This has just become too hard to watch.

    • Viva

      You mean their flaccid performance doesn’t inspire you?

  • BerwynBomber

    isn’t that the 2013 team photo?

    • Peanut FTW

      Yes, there’s Devin Hester, among others… I do think the crux of the argument is.. the whole team is an embarrassment but..

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      I did a doubletake when I saw McCown in the front row.
      And boy, they do suck right now.

      • DaBearsBlog

        Yea I used wrong photo. Corrected.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    Hands down, the worst Bears team EVER. I think the word “team” is not even close. “Team” implies people working together to accomplish a set of goals. This is not a TEAM, a few individuals played hard but this group of players and coaches cannot be called a team by any stretch of the imagination.

    One other important point. If you ever watch “A Football Life” there is a great episode dedicated to Walter Payton. In that episode, former Raven LB Ray Lewis is watching a game reel of Walter just plowing through and bouncing off a defense, breaking tackle after tackle, he looks at the camera and says,
    “That’s not talent, that’s HEART.”

    That’s exactly what this Bears “Group”, save for a chosen few, lack entirely.

  • BearDown100393

    Why are they all covering their balls?

  • Viva

    I called for the firing of Trestman during the bye week to avoid being in the predicament we are in right now. He could not lead a hungry Marine to an MRE.

    Dave Toub for HC.

  • GPLDAN

    Emery talked to NBC and said the decision to retain Kromer was Trestman’s and that he didn’t necessarily agree with it.

    He also alluded to what was in Kromer’s contract, which was the most overt hint drop I’ve seen him make. He usually speaks in pure platitudes.

    I read into that: Trestman is gone. Marc’s calculus is now that it is more important to show loyalty to Kromer because Aaron might help him down the road. Or some misguided idea of loyalty. In a weird way, you almost have to give Marc credit for it. He’s a moron, he has no leadership skills, he can’t run a NFL team. But he’s a good friend and a good person.

    Also – while Biggsy reported that the turnstiles recorded 50k in an 80k stadium, some social media reports say it was 40k tops and that by the 2nd half, it was 20k. That MNF was not going to show that on tv because their primary mandate is to protect the NFL from the perception of mass rejection, but that the stadium was mostly empty in the 2nd half.

    Now – if true – that simply has to get George’s attention. Now the math has to start balancing against the $16M it will take to get rid of Cutler or the $25M it will take to cut bait with Trestman and Cutler.

    • TheBigCheesy

      Solider field is only 60k I thought

      • GPLDAN

        61,500 officially. Wow that’s small. Is that the smallest stadium in the NFL?

        Talk about predicting a dwindling fan base. All those skyboxes take up more space than I thought

        • TheBigCheesy

          I believe the small size it’s been cited as a major reason the bears have not been selected to host a super bowl. they reducced the capacity during the renovations in order to move fans closer to the field and it’s one of the knocks on ted phillips i think. It’s the 3rd smallest stadium

          • Big Mike

            It is the smallest stadium in the league.

          • BillW

            Yeah – someone commented yesterday on how Teddy fleeced the city. Not sure how that computes. In order to keep the Soldier Field column facade, they had to fit the stadium inside it. They built up over the columns but I never figured out how that made it smaller (I think it was about 66,000 before).

            Anyway, the irony is they lost the national historic registry status after the renovation anyway. So they may as well have torn down the whole structure and built from scratch. I may be wrong – but I don’t think it was designated a true landmark (else they would not have been able to do that.)

          • CanadaBear

            They fleeced them because they pay next to nothing for the use of the stadium and can dictate to the Park District what field surface they want. Mikey couldn’t get the deal in place because he’s such a putz. As soon as Ted got involved, the deal was struck.

          • BillW

            I knew Daley found Mikey to be a pathetic arrogant lightweight. He enjoyed seeing him squirm I think. Daley was going to strike a deal – just not with him. You or I could have stepped up next and got it done I think.

          • CanadaBear

            You’re probably right but Teddy was the guy that got it done. Pretty sure he has a job for life with the Bears.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      I viewed Kromer’s comment to that reporter as him already searching for his next job while trying to distance himself from this Bears team and Cutler.

  • GPLDAN

    Marc Trestman does not realize he has fallen below Dave Wannstedt on the list of futile Bears HCs. 2014 Bears worst group of my lifetime.

    Wanny is on the Score right now RIPPING into Trestman and this team. How bad is that? When Dave Wannstedt says you are a mess, you must really be a mess. That’s like Amy Winehouse calling somebody a hopeless drug addict.

    20 free agents on this club vs. an average of 6 on the Pack and Pats.

    It starts at the top, Dave.

    • BillW

      Unfortunately, a lot of the 20 FAs were because of the holes Angelo left.

      IF Emery owned up to the Cutler and Trestman mistakes (in some coded subtle way) I’d not be terribly upset at giving him one more chance assuming he came out and said they were rebuilding.

      He could say he felt there was a small window of opportunity that he tried to take advantage of by massive FA signings and bringing in a QB guru – and that it didn’t work and so they now have to take a slower more measured approach.

      Assuming he hired a respectable coach he could get away with that with the fans.

      • CanadaBear

        Not all the fans!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • GPLDAN

    Cutler was interviewed and said that the Saints showed looks and things they never saw before.

    Trestman last night said there was nothing shown that they hadn’t seen or knew would be coming.

    How is that for disconnect?

    • love what he said right after that. “They knew exactly what we were doing.”

      • CanadaBear

        How could they not know? We don’t hide anything, no motion, same pre-snap looks every week. Most of us could call the plays they are going to run once they line up.

        • yup, but clear blast at the coaches

          • BillW

            Absolutely. I also loved reading about the fake punt – with about 5 guys in the lineup that are never on the punt team. Gee Marc – think they may suspect something?? What a freakin’ idiot. Goes right along with running two draws in a row, kicking a near 50 yard FG on 2nd down. I’m sure it worked great in practice,

            I am absolutely disgusted with this man. And there are still TWO more games left!!

          • hey now. the fake punt was genius. what team would try a pay like that with only 10 men on the field? i’m surprised we didn’t take it to the house with that sort of trickery.

          • BillW

            Both Rosenbloom and Haugh wrote the Bears were penalized for 10 men on the field. Both those guys showed they are idiots. And I wrote comments saying so – the penalty was not having 7 men on the line.

          • CanadaBear

            Honestly, I laughed when I found out they had 10 men on the field. Of course, this was after I was swearing about not picking up the first down.

  • GPLDAN

    Wanny is saying that he hopes if total regime happens that the Bears should keep Joe DeCam. Because he’s a great coach and given nothing to work with.

    If I hear that, Camel is the FIRST guy I fire.

  • TheBigCheesy

    Good god the bears still suck

    • Bears-4-Ever

      GO BILLS! Guess the Fudge-packers just thought they could stay on the bus and just win that one huh Chessy?…bite my ass.

      • TheBigCheesy

        i doubt it. i dont think anyone was too surprised with how the game played out. the drops were pretty surprising i guess.

  • AJP

    We need REX or Harbaugh. Rex would need a complete defensive roster overhaul, but Jim could come right in with minimal defensive roster turnover…

    • Bears-4-Ever

      Screw REX…he ain’t the answer. Harbaugh has a track record of turning shit teams into winners…He’s our man.

  • GPLDAN

    Dear Mrs McCaskey,
    You are viewed by many to be the first lady of football, but only because

    you inherited this team from the founder of the NFL due to your brother,

    Muggs, leaving this world too early. The team you currently own is the one

    true great love of a very proud city. Your spouse was an Ivy League

    graduate, and in turn your children have become Ivy League Graduates.

    I am sorry Mrs McCaskey, but your Ivy League Graduate family is not

    qualified to run this NFL franchise. Your family is not that of football

    minded people. Upon your passing on into your next great adventure, this

    franchise will be in a greater state of disarray than it currently is.

    Mrs McCaskey, we the people of Illinois, who view the Bears as our Pride and

    joy are asking you to please sell this team to a football minded person or

    set of people. Someone who has a remote clue how to run a professional

    football organization. You will receive a kings ransom for this team, and

    your great, great, great granchildren will be set for life from it.

    We ask that you ‘Take the money and Run’ Mrs McCaskey. Surely your family of

    Ivy Leaguers can use the great some of money that you will recieve to re-

    invest into something that will create a re-newable income.

    Mrs McCaskey you are doing nothing but torturing your proud city and state

    by pretending to to know what you are doing. Your time has come and gone. We

    no longer want to see the head coach or general manager replaced because

    those figures will replaced by the ineptitude that is your family. We as a

    fan base have lost all faith in you, and your ability to hire “football”

    people.

    People who attend Ivy League Schools and are well educated and wealthy, and

    want to surround themselves with people who they feel are parallel to their

    idealism. Mrs McCaskey, what we need is a Meathead running this team, not an

    escargot head. We need someone who eats meat and potatoes, not fish eggs. We

    need someone who drinks beer, not 400.00 bottles of fine wine.

    Mrs McCaskey, please sell this team ASAP, before you pass on and put this

    team into the hands of people that are less qualified to run it than you,

    for we the people of Illinois can not handle this anymore. It is time Mrs

    McCaskey. Please do what you must know by now in your your heart is the

    correct thing to do, and sell th Chicago Bears to someone who knows football.

    -Dan Sciortino, on a Facebook link from ESPN’s page.

  • Scharfinator

    Funniest thread yet, Jeff! A little lacking in content though. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • DaMurph

    This steaming pile of crap is on Emery, it’s his design, his awful tasting recipe. They all need to be fired!!! His extensive coaching search led to this spineless, flaccid leader? That alone is reason enough to fire him. Emery has totaled the Bears, get rid of him now while the ship can possibly be salvaged, don’t let it sink all the way! This is the worst Bears team I’ve seen in my life, bar none!!

    • Big Mike

      No disagreement on how bad they are. No disagreement that people need to be accountable. But I’m reserving judgement on Emery until Dec. 30th. If he pulls the plug on the whole coaching staff, he’d done his job.

    • CanadaBear

      Couldn’t agree more Murph. The two most important decisions on his to-do list and he epically failed at both of them. Not to mention a roster full of players that don’t fit as a team. The Camel is no Toub but what a collection of misfits on ST’s. Those dopes can’t go a play without getting flagged. Give him credit for signing Willie but over paying for Houston (who I like but not at his price) and signing the washed up hillbilly make up for signing Willie. My biggest beef was not bringing in any vets to help out at LB and the band aid he applied at safety is laughable. Mundy is just a guy at SS and Conte (even though I admire him for his effort) makes some awful mistakes and can’t stay healthy. The team has no chemistry and no leaders.

      • BillW

        Mundy. Looks in the backfield and decides brilliantly to leave his man to chase – what? His childish reaction to being suckered said it all.

  • KentuckyBearsFan

    ESPN showed a graphic last night that showed that 4 players (Cutler, Marshall, Bushrod, and Forte) took a sizable portion of the salary cap. Only Forte earned his salary this year. Cutler should be called The Mailman…not because he delivers, but because he mails in games. I can’t recall him just not caring about games before like during this year.

    Jaguars and Raiders fans had more to root for the end of this year then Bears fan. That’s just sad.

    • it’s so hard to evaluate guys this year, especially as the season goes on. the entire team has just been a dumpster fire due to horrific coaching.

      Either they had about 15 formerly good players who now all suck, or the coaches simply aren’t putting them in positions to succeed. So how do you figure out what’s regression and what will bounce back next year with new and (hopefully) better coaches?

      Bottom line is I expect the personnel on the field to look fairly similar next year, though with some new blood on defense. Then we’ll see how much was on the coaching. No way to know right now, so we as fans can only hope it’s a lot.

  • BerwynBomber

    Going off what KBF said below, found the following in an article on the four-letter network’s dot com site last night:

    “As of Dec. 10, five teams around the NFL had at least 14 percent of their salary caps allocated to the quarterback position, with the Pittsburgh Steelers leading the way at 16 percent, followed by the New York Giants (15.9), St. Louis Rams (15.1), Chicago (14.4) and New Orleans (14.4). Obviously, three of those teams have quarterbacks with Super Bowl rings. Even Denver and Green Bay — teams with Super Bowl-winning signal-callers — have smaller percentages of their overall caps allocated to the quarterback position than Chicago.”

    • Big Mike

      Not to defend Cutler and his contract, but older deals are smaller than newer deals. Bears did what they had to do. At least it is not a long term contract. 2 more years and they can dump him.

      • NewBearInTown

        Correct. This was not a choice being paying Cutler $17M or $12M. This was a choice between $17M or finding a new quarterback.

        • John Doe

          Emery should have known Cutler was not worth $18 million per year for guaranteed $54 million over three years.

          Would you rather have:

          1) Jay Cutler for $18 million
          2) Josh McCown/Kyle Orton type for $5-6 million and use the remaining $12 million for Aquib Talib or Derrelle Revis?

          The money Jay is sucking up could have been used to improve defense. And Jay’s performance is not worth the money he is sucking up. His contracting is hurting the defense.

          • BillW

            I keep reminding myself I thought the contract was a good one. That it’s hindsight to say otherwise today.

            However, Cutler looks to be uncoachable and someone on the Bears should have told Emery that before he made he deal.

            Many fans suspected that but only the Bears had the information needed to to make the decision. So it’s not hindsight for a fan to say given what we’re seeing, the Bears should have known signing him would be a mistake.

          • John Doe

            Cutler contracts is on Emery and Ted Phillips. He is not Trestman type QB. Trestman just went along with Emery.

          • BillW

            Further showing that Trestman has no guts. And I think Emery has concluded that. Therefore Trestman is gone.

            Think about it – Trestman was Emery’s “genius” hire to turn the offense around. And he must have counted on Trestmna and Kromer to give him a very brually honest assessment before extending Cutler (when he could have franchised him).

            And they didn’t. Kromer in particular. I can see why Emery is pissed as hell at Kromer. He goes to a reporter to say what he should have told Emery last year before he did the contract.

          • CanadaBear

            The thing is, they might have told PE the truth last year and PE went ahead and signed him. Who knows?

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, I tend to think PE is behind Cutty more than anyone else. Trestman and Kromer should be gone but I’m not putting the Cutty contract on them. That is on PE.

          • BerwynBomber

            Forget Talib or Revis. Would be better yet to buy three viable D starters with that cashed saved. Not to split hairs, but the Talibs and Revises are for when you are contending and need that final piece.

            Anyway, it’s all a pipedream now but hopefully this will be a reminder if we ever hear from the “OMG we will return to the Jonathan Qunn/Craig Krenzel years” fearmongers again.

        • TheBigCheesy

          could have franchised him for 18 mil

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            I guess there would have been no (certainly no financial) downside to franchising Cutler…and it shouldn’t have seemed too insulting considering Cutler’s injury history.

          • TheBigCheesy

            the downside would have been if he had produced this year at the level they expected him to, he would have cost them much more this offseason. That was their thinking at least, i’m sure.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yes, but look at a guy like Orton. He’s on a new contract and makes $10M a year. I think he’s overpaid and that he is still slightly inferior to Cutler as a QB, but ask me which contract (and therefore player) I would want? Orton. Without even a second thought. Because a) you can use the money saved to buy two defensive starters, and b) Orton is not going to require a three year contract to “lock him” in.

        • Big Mike

          hindsight is perfect. You can unravel the whole thing and look at the draft picks and Orton that we gave up. Some site did that and of course they picked the very, very best player we could have drafted in the spot as if not trading for Cutler provided some sort of magical insight. Orton getting $10m, certainly puts Cutlers $17 in perspective. Orton=Journeyman, Cutler = overpaid Journeyman QB, with potential that will drive fans and coaches crazy. I’m ready to move on from him, but I not ready for a clown car of QBs that we had. There’s not a single QB available right now that I would make a move for.

          Mike Tice should have punched him in the face for acting like a bitch. At the time I was on Cutler’s side. Maybe Mike Marsh was a good coordinator..

          • CanadaBear

            Cutler is avg. Martz’s scheme worked if you had HOF’ers at the skill positions and a very good OL. Cutler had some success with Martz but he got the hell beat out of him. Not good.

          • Big Mike

            With the talent we have now, Cutler wouldn’t be getting the hell beat out of him and it would have worked.

          • CanadaBear

            Could be. The OL is still a bit of a mess. Honestly, I think Cutler’s game changed after all those beatings. Maybe a combo of beatings and the diabetes. He sure doesn’t look like the same guy we got in a trade. He seems like he’s a zombie out there now. Don’t get me wrong, he was always a mistake prone QB relying too much on arm strength but it just seems like the fire has gone completely out.

          • Big Mike

            He does not. I used to be very excited about his placement of the football. Hit guys in stride. Last night he was low, high, etc.

          • BillW

            I sent an email to Biggsy just now. Of course, if there is something wrong and Biggs knows about it, he’s too professional to reveal it.

            Biggs used to be really good about responding to emails I’ve sent him, but given the new world of twitter I don’t expect an answer.

          • BillW

            I agree with the zombie analysis. Think too about how he brushed off the Kromer thing. It’s almost like he has something far bigger than football on his mind. I’m not making excuses for him, but the fact is he’s about the age of my oldest son and sometimes my Dad side kicks in.

  • Big Mike

    We’re stuck with Cutler for two more years. There are no studs at QB in this year’s draft as far as I know. But wouldn’t it be interesting to see a real QB competition?

    • DaBearsBlog

      One more year.

      • Big Mike

        Even better.

        • BillW

          Yeah – Cutty is back only because probably is no one worth handing the team over to yet. But I’d like to see Fales against Minnesota (not Detroit – defense too tough).

          • Big Mike

            So skip right by Clausen? He’s a young version of McCown.

          • BillW

            Somehow I’m not enthused by Clausen. Didn’t see him as anything but insurance if Jay got hurt and we were actually in the hunt.

          • BerwynBomber

            Agreed. I don’t think Clasuen even rises to the level on interim answer. But I do find it annoying as hell that Trestman has not thrown him in at the end of games during these blowouts. My sense is Trestman is receiving his orders from PE there. He wants to no QB controversy, no hint of Cutty asked to take a seat, etc.

          • CanadaBear

            I think you underestimate Nessman’s incompetence.

          • BerwynBomber

            No, I don’t. I just think PE has more vested interest in the Grand Cutler Scheme than Trestman.

          • CanadaBear

            I’d agree with that!

      • CanadaBear

        Do you think they will eat the 3rd year of the contract? From what I’ve read if they release him before the 3 years are up they will end up paying him for not playing.

        • BillW

          But I think “only” about 5.5 million.

      • TheBigCheesy

        why is everyone so confused about his contract?

        cutler’s 2016 salary is fully guaranteed for injury.
        In march 2015, $10 million of his 2016 salary becomes guaranteed.
        in march 2016, the remaining $6 million of his 2016 salary is guaranteed

        If the bears keep Jay Cutler next year, these are the following options for 2016:

        Cut Jay cutler before March 2016 and pay him $10 million to leave
        Pay Jay Cutler around $16 million to play quarterback
        Pay an injured Jay Cutler $16 million to suck milkshakes through a straw

        • BillW

          Not sure you are accurate but maybe a typo –
          His 2016 salary is fully guaranteed for injury. Or his 2015 salary?

          • TheBigCheesy

            If jay cutler gets injured this year or next year and cannot continue to play, he is owed his entire 2016 salary.

            He is already owed his 2015 salary. that was guaranteed in march 2014

          • BillW

            My understanding is 54 million guaranteed but not really.
            That actually it’s 38 million if they cut him before March 2015. Meaning they “save” 16 million but paid him 38 million for one year.

            After 2015, they can cut him at March 2016 and save 5.5. But essentially pay him

            Or am I confused? I don’t doubt it

          • TheBigCheesy

            you are correct. this is basically exactly what i described above… with one addition: yes, the bears can get out of his entire 2016 salary by cutting cutler in the next couple of months. This would pay him 38 million over 2014-2015 even though he wouldln’t play in 2015

          • BillW

            Right – if they cut him before March the 2015 money hits the cap that year without a player on the roster accounting for it.

            So the right move – assuming the cap increases as it likely will – is keep him on the roster next year and start planning for his replacement. Then cut him after next year and eat the last relatively small cap hit.

          • TheBigCheesy

            $10 million is relatively small? If you cut jay cutler after 2015, all you save is 6 million

          • BillW

            That’s what I said I think but I’m going in circles with myself.

            If they cut him after 2015 the only cap hit is 5.5 – 6 million in 2016. Worth it to get him off the team. Not worth it to cut him after this year.

          • TheBigCheesy

            youve got 2016 backwards. if Cutler is on the roster in 2015, his 2016 cap hit will be $10 million (at least).

          • BillW

            OK – got it (I think). The $10million is sunk i they have him in 2015. Then the savings comes in the guise of 5.5 NOT spent in 2017?

          • TheBigCheesy

            Let’s assume Jay Cutler stays healthy. if the bears keep jay cutler for 2015, then they have a decision in march of 2016.

            Pay Jay cutler $10 million to leave
            or
            Pay Jay Cutler $16 million to play

            That’s all you really need to know.

          • BillW

            Got it. Maybe we can sell some fake stock to help them decide. (lighhearted joke icon goes here)

  • GPLDAN

    My last comment for the day:

    The Bears have made the national media forget about the Redskins. That’s some feat.

    George – you will be getting a Xmas card from Dan Snyder.

  • CanadaBear

    I’m not sure this is the worst Bears team I’ve seen. The Dooley years (1-13) followed by the Gibron years can’t be overlooked. This is probably the most unlikable Bears team I’ve ever seen. I’m getting to the point where I actually believe major changes are coming. If not, the offseason will be a shit storm of epic proportion.

    • DaMurph

      But during those years there was solid effort, they fought hard and teams knew they were in for a game! It’s the downright lack of effort and enthusiasm. They act and play like they don’t care. They have taken on the weak demeanor of Trestman. We have Mr Rogers as a coach!

      • CanadaBear

        I agree with every word of this Murph!

  • Big Mike

    That 1-13 team was hilarious. The kicker is the game they won cost them a shot at Terry Bradshaw.

    • i thought they lost bradshaw with a coin toss? so they had a shot at him. they just lost.

      • BillW

        Had they lost they would have been 0-14 and got the first pick without a flip.

        • i know. i’m just arguing semantics because there’s nothing bears worth arguing at this point.

      • Big Mike

        Had the lost that game to Pittsburgh, they would not have been tied with Pittsburgh and would have needed a coin toss.

    • BillW

      Though I was pretty young I seem to remember the 1-13 team was more competitive. And they came off a near playoff year.

      Seriously, had they drafter Bradshaw they wouldn’t have done much with him. Bradshaw was tough and fit in well with what the Steelers had at the time.

      • Big Mike

        You know that characteristic that makes people a leader. He might not have turned into Terry Bradshaw 4x superbowl champ. But the Bears would have been a better squad.

        I remember watching games with my Dad and Uncles. When it was a blacked out game we’d go to a tavern that with a huge antenna that picked up the signal from either Milwaukee or Rockford, whichever didn’t have them blacked out. Don’t ever remember him being embarrassed by the team. Frustrated by lack of talent. (that team got old overnight and it just didn’t work).

        This is the most unlikeable Chicago Sports team in recent memory. There were a couple overpaid, under delivering cubs teams at the end of Lou Pinella’s reign that I really didn’t like. But this team, ppphhht

        • BillW

          Those were good times actually – our church / school had an antenna that picked up Rockford and for a small donation you could watch home games from there. They sold beer and pop and food too and had a few TVs set up in the school cafeteria. Went with friends (too young to drink though).

          Even took my girlfriend (now wife) there a couple times. She knew what she was getting into when it came to my being a Bears fan.

          • Big Mike

            For me, the time with my Dad and Uncles is why I am a Bears fan.

          • BillW

            Me too; and my grandpa from what little I remember of him. He died before the ’63 championship sadly.

          • CanadaBear

            My dad was a big fan but it was my older brother that got me onto the Bears bandwagon. He loved Ditka (the player). I enjoyed the ’63 championship (and went nuts watching the game) but was a little too young to know all that much about football. Once they drafted Butkus and Sayers, I’ve been all in.

  • BillW

    My God – what a rambling piece of nothing that Emery answer to Joniak was.

    In a nutshell – I think:
    I would have fired Kromer but contractually it was Trestman’s call.

    Soooo..Emery is loading up on his case to get one more coaching pick.

    • i hear phil has his eye on a strength and training coach working out of an inner city high school in downtown chattanooga. another diamond in the rough. just you wait!

      • BillW

        But does he hold good practices?

        • NewBearInTown

          Of all the things Trestman keeps saying this season, the fact that he keeps talking about good work being done at practice ticks me off the most.
          I imagine guys like Arians, Ryan, Bowles, Harbaugh saying something like this:
          “Yes, practice went fine. We’re all killing ourselves out there. But it doesn’t matter. The other team are killing themselves too. We will not be happy unless this translates on the field. Win or lose, we need to be competitive on every snap. Without that, this week is meaningless.”

  • BillW

    I don’t recall ever truly rooting against the Bears but I will next week.

    Why on earth would any true Bear fan want them to win? You heard Trestman try to spin another double digit loss into a positive. My God, what would he do if they actually beat a team like the Lions?

    To say nothing of the fact that the only cheap thrill we have left is seeing the Lions finish ahead of the Packers and Mr. Rodgers.

    • Big Mike

      Root all you want, either way this team will not win another game.

      • BillW

        If my rooting affected the outcome, we’d have 25 rings by now.

        This is like a nightmare I can’t wake up from. I want action and I truly fear a victoy over Detroit will give them an excuse to say things are turning around.

        • CanadaBear

          Pretty sure that ship has sailed.

          • BillW

            Man I hope so.

        • Big Mike

          Detroit is going to exact revenge for having to live in Detroit.

        • BerwynBomber

          Detroit’s not as self-destructive as they were with Shorts. And Minny strikes me as a team that will play to the final whistle of the final game regardless of where they stand. 5-11 is a real possibility. Here we come Landon Collins.

  • CanadaBear

    There is no way in hell we win next week. The only thing I really want to see is someone blowing up the lesbian. I really dislike that fucker. After he got away with throwing DJ Moore around by the back of his helmet, I’ve been waiting for someone on the Bears to light him up.

    • Scharfinator

      I’d love that too. The Bears won’t though – not this team.

      • CanadaBear

        I wish I could argue the point. I don’t think the D has quit as much as the O but that’s just splitting hairs.

        • Scharfinator

          I agree, they seem to have a little more pride. But they won’t be going for revenge for a player most of them don’t know on a team that isn’t competitive.

          • BillW

            I would think the D will play hard but try to avoid injuries. Blowing up the QB just invites a career ending retaliation. I can’t see any Bear thinking it’s worth the risk.

          • CanadaBear

            They would probably retaliate against Cutler. That might not upset anyone on the D.

  • Sactowns#1

    The coaching is so inept it’s painfully obvious to even a layman. The offense is reliant completely upon jump ball passes because for some reason Trestman hates to stick with the run and Jay cant throw the underneath passes with anything resembling accuracy. The only two bright spots of the season are Forte and the fact that I may win the DBB fantasy league.

    • Shady

      Not if Multiple Scoregasms has anything to say about it. Butch hasn’t posted much since Dez Bryant dropped 40 for you Sunday night. I’d feel bad for him, but when you are starting Mark Sanchez and Johnny football in a 2 QB league you don’t deserve to win. By the way, I cut Alex Smith halfway through the season for you. You’re welcome.

  • wreckinball

    The Dooley and Gibron years were awful and had some worse W-L records. But this team at this very instant is comparable i.e. maybe worst team in the league. Don’t think we could beat the Jags next week. The Jags suck but they haven’t given up.
    Drafting Walter started the turn around.
    Whats more depressing is that we are kind of sealed in via contracts to players and one particular one who just isn’t going to get it done.

    • CanadaBear

      A lot of the team has already packed their bags, esp on offense. We might have more talent than the Jags (might not, too) but if they haven’t quit on the coach, no doubt they would beat us.

  • BillW

    So the consensus here is that the Cutler deal was Emery alone? That it’s possible Trestman and / or Kromer maybe advised against it?

    • CanadaBear

      Who knows? Either way, it’s bad. If Nessman and the crybaby endorsed the deal their judgement is flawed or they are a couple of ass kissers. Either way, uh-oh. If they advised against the deal, then Emery is really an idiot. I don’t discount either scenario.

      • BillW

        Emery owns it without question. But I don’t see Jay being less coachable this year than last. Though maybe with the contract he took “don’t care” to a new level.

        • BearDown100393

          Who has ever “coached up” Jay Cutler?

        • CanadaBear

          I’m still wondering if the diabetes is kicking his ass more and more each year. Cor linked a podcast of John Madden talking passionately about Cutler and explaining that with the diabetes Cutler can’t allow himself to get too amped up or it throws off his chemical balance. That kinda explains the flat lining of emotions. I’ve been around a few diabetics and it definitely fucked up their lives in many different ways. Not only that but the longer they had it the more they were affected by it.

          • BillW

            Ah – I was having this conversation with a co worker today and I recalled someone making this point. It was probably you on an earlier thread. I have thought that all along regarding his demeanor. I know they take his blood sugar levels several times during the game.

            Anyone know if another NFL QB suffered from the same type of diabetes?

          • BillW

            No QBs – rare for any football players apparently

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sportspeople_with_diabetes

          • BillW
          • BearDown100393

            Bobby Clarke was fearless, captained the toughest team in NHL history and won 2 Stanley Cups. The polar opposite of Cutler.

          • John Doe

            If diabetes is an issue, then it is even greater indictment of Emery to give that stupid contract to Cutler.

          • underway

            While I am not a NFL caliber athlete. I was a pretty good High School athlete. lol I too am diabetic and I call Bullshit on that. While all diabetics are not the same, I am certain Cutler has the best of the best. Diet, exercise, and proper medications play a major role.

          • BearDown100393

            You are assuming Jay Cutler follows the advice of his endocrinologist, nutritionist, trainers, etc.

    • NewBearInTown

      I don’t see how you sign Trestman if he isn’t on board with Cutler.
      I don’t see how you sign Cutler if Trestman isn’t board with it.
      Kromer, who knows. Offensive coordinators are a lot more replaceable than head coaches. Especially when the HC is really the guy running the offense.

      • John Doe

        Happens in corporate world all the time. You have to go with what the boss wants.

        Trestman was desperate to become NFL coach. Desperate + weak personality = I can see him agreeing to Cutler.

        Remember, he refused to name Cutler franchise QB all of last season. And Cutler played just 11 games last season that were, at best, up and down. Cutler did nothing to earn the contract last year but it was kind of decided to give it to him.

        Dan Snyder forced Mike Shanahan to take RGIII with that 2nd overall pick. So yes, this type of stuff happens. Bosses can and do force those under them to do what they want.

  • BillW

    “Cutler deserves blame but he’s had 332 atts when behind and 113 ahead”.

    Again – cause and effect get confused. While the defense is really bad, if the offense scored in the first half more they wouldn’t be behind as often.

    • John Doe

      That is the biggest pile of bs from many Cutler Apologist.

      But what about defense they say. Is Defense preventing Jay from playing well? As a matter of fact, Jay is frequently putting the defense in a bad spot by turning the ball over.

      Take the Pats game. Bears got the ball and did a quick punt after just getting one first down.
      Pats get 7. Next possession Bears again do a quick 3 and out. But game is still 7-0. then the defense gives up 80 yards but then puts a goal line stand. Pats go for fourth and are stopped but refs pull out a bs call to allow them to kick a field goal. Still 10-0 and game is not running away and defense showed some heart in putting up a spirited fight.

      What did Jay Cutler and the offense do next? a quick 3 and out. Not even a first down. Not even a breather for the defense and they had to trot out again. And the massacre began.

      How long can defense hold when the offense keeps laying egg?

      And the team was built as offense first team. Two thirds of 2014 cap space is on offense. Defense was expected to be bad. Offense was expected to be top 5, even top 3.

      • BillW

        How long can defense hold when the offense keeps laying egg?

        Especially one known to be bad. Think about last night alone. Forget that the Saints are bad too. 31 points given up. The offense was supposed to be built to win shootouts. At least some shootouts. Last night should have been a perfect example. If the offense scores ONCE in the first half, we have a very different game.

  • John Doe

    Great read on Cutler contract stupidity. Fire Emery for this alone..

    SportsonEarth @SportsonEarth ยท 25m25 minutes ago

    The Cutler contract is a rarity in football… a tough one to drop, writes @RossTuckerNFL: http://bit.ly/1yZD9rC

    • BearDown100393

      The argument presented by many regarding the contract is primarily dependent on the concept of “keeping Jay happy”. Think about that for a moment. How is that even possible with this person? When is Jay ever happy? There only seems to be degrees of miserableness. IMO he does not enjoy what he does for a living. He does it only because it pays his family very well. And that is understandable. But there is nothing in his personality, demeanor on the field, post game pressers, etc etc etc that remotely suggests he enjoys being a professional quarterback. While others would sacrifice anything to be a NFL player (check out Conte’s comment about willing to die 10-15 years younger) Jay Cutler seems as excited to be on a football field as Peter Gibbons experiencing a case of the Mondays at Initech. The Bobs promoted Peter with a pay raise and fired his friends because they were impressed he did nothing extraordinary. The Bears did the same with Jay Cutler. Initech burned to the ground. And so have the Bears.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    where the hell are McCaskey’s seats??? i thought he would be in a box somewhere and not sitting amongst the fans, especially after the shit show he’s allowed to be put on the field.

    http://deadspin.com/saints-fan-arrested-after-allegedly-shoving-bears-chair-1671930002

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