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Most Important Special Teams Player of 2014: Pat O’Donnell, Rookie Punter

| September 2nd, 2014

From 2006 to 2013 one could argue the three most stable roster positions on the Chicago Bears were kick returner, kicker and long snapper as each were manned by players ranking as the franchise’s best ever at the spot. Special teams, especially in the Dave Toub era, were the frothy foam head at the top of a perfect pint of Guinness.

Since Jerry Angelo decided to make Adam Podlesh one of the best paid punters in the history of the sport, that position has been infamously (at least around here) unstable. Podlesh capped off his Bears career with a dreadful 2013 performance, ranking dead last in almost every important statistical category. Their worst-ever defense was hamstrung by more than injuries and poor play. They were hamstrung with short fields to defend due to Podlesh. They had no shot.

Phil Emery sent Podlesh packing and drafted Miami’s Pat O’Donnell in the sixth round. O’Donnell, as a rookie, is the Bears most important special teams player in 2014.

Robbie Gould will be consistent and accurate. About the only criticism you’ll hear heaved in his direction is “he’s not perfect”.

Very little by way of impact should be expected from either the kick or punt return games as Micheal Spurlock, Santonio Holmes, Senorise Perry and every other player on the roster take their shot at replacing a legend. If the return games can avoid being a negative, avoid turnovers, the Bears offense will not be thwarted by the lack of a field position advantage.

Coverage units will be under pressure but its near impossible to identify any individual as more important than the whole of those units. (I also contest its impossible to evaluate coverage units until the regular season as the bottom third of the roster, usually in flux, is what comprises those units.)

Expectations on O’Donnell will be high. And they should be.

When asked by various folks about my obsession with the punter position, I always answer the same way: “That’s none of your business.” Then I explain.

Adam Podlesh punted 4.25 times a game in 2013. That means the punter had, without question, four possible impact plays per game. How many opportunities for an impact play does the backup quarterback have in a game? The third defensive tackle? The dime corner? The flex tackle? If they have four opportunities for impact in a game it is a rare thing yet fans and media spend so much time dissecting these players while ignoring the efforts of a guaranteed contributor: the punter. (NFL taking this long to put a punter in the HOF proves this fact incontrovertibly.) I’m not arguing punter is more important than your starting skill guys or center or middle linebacker. But once you get by the immediate starting lineup, there are few players as important.

Nobody cares about the punter until he rescues the offense from their own end zone or pins a high-powered quarterback on the goal line.

Against a good team, you are going to punt a few times regardless of offensive ability. And against a good team those punts could be the difference in a field position battle. And the object of the NFL season is to play at least three games against good teams when all the crappy teams have gone home.

Punts are individual efforts, unlike most other sequences in the NFL. Once the snap reaches the punter it is on the punter. That’s why Emery spent a draft pick on O’Donnell and why he was right to do so. Shane Lechler was a fifth round pick and if the Bears have found another Lechler they will have struck gold.

O’Donnell is the most important special teams player because the defense is still a liability and POD can do three things: (1) change field position by compensating for stalled offensive drives (2) hanging the ball high in the air to allow coverage units to get downfield and (3) accurately kick to the sidelines to hinder opposing returners. The rebuilt defense won’t be great but they can be mediocre. Allow them to defend long fields and they can be even better.

O’Donnell is the defense’s twelfth starter. He’s also the key to the Bears special teams in 2014.

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  • johnnywad

    I hope O’Donnell is great. That said, the reason nobody really gives a damn about finding a punter is because it should be easy. Punters are seldom drafted because they’re everywhere and nobody wants to burn a pick on them. Great punters don’t really stand out to a casual observer. Only the worst, (Podlesh) get noticed. Additionally, by NFL standards, they aren’t exceptional athletes. The third defensive tackle is, as is the backup linebacker, dime corner, flex tackle, etc. Take a guy like Michael Sam. The guy was a defensive stud in college, he was released over the weekend because he’s just not that good. Despite, all of his college success, he’s not even good enough to hold down a backup roll. Need a punter? Hold an open tryout and ten guys will show up you’ve never heard of and most would do a fair job at the position.
    They’re important, just not that hard to find.

    • johnnywad

      Oh, and FIRST!

    • Trac

      Ha, Podlesh was a bunter, not a punter.

    • DaBearsBlog

      Very good ones are actually incredibly hard to find. That’s why guys like Landeta, Moorman, Maynard last forever in the league.

      Reply

      • johnnywad

        My contention is that a great punter just isn’t necessary. I just don’t think an A+ guy at the position nets you any more wins than a solid B type. I would also argue that an A+ gunner would be a bigger asset when coupled with a B punter than an A+ punter coupled with a B gunner in terms of field position.

        This isn’t to say the punter isn’t important. He is. But not as much so, in my opinion, as any of the other positions mentioned above.

        To the point of your piece, those other positions are harder to fill. And, due to injury, likely stand to have a bigger impact in the W/L column. The QB 2 and flex tackle can have dramatic impact on game and season outcomes.

        If there were wins over replacement in football, like there is in baseball, I just don’t think the difference between a great punter and a journeyman nets you any wins. My .02.

  • Trac

    Would somebody please enlighten me as to how the Bears are going to utilize our inside linebackers this year. Does anyone really know yet?

    • I’ve heard from a trusted inside source that they will use them to tackle players on the opposing squad. They will also be asked to drop into coverage sometimes to defend against the forward pass.

      • Trac

        Getouttanere! Thanks for that encouraging news. Lol.

        • it’s some very groundbreaking stuff. OC’s are going to have their hands full this season =]

  • Paul Stuart

    It’s that time of year where fantasy style evaluations can finally simmer down or at least take a back seat. In all aspects of every phase of the game, they now can focus/continue to focus on how the finalised roster/units gel and interact with each other – especially with this years ST incarnation. How the coaches evaluate those relationships and plan to best use the awareness the players may or may not yet have with each other. Give’ em a song to sing they don’t forget the words to. Sure they’ve had the play books a while, but now they get to own them and write in the margins.

    I’m not much of a “team” player in the watered down minimum/low wage workplace these days (there’s no “I” except for the executive manager’s big fuck off “M.E.” to be found in it’s spelling) and I am tired of hearing it as a buzzword in those 9-5 cliché conversations over lattes, but in this arena I really do endorse it’s uses and it’s absolute necessity – ST’s again.

    It can fall apart or gather cohesion as the season continues almost (almost) regardless of individual skill. This is why it’s only now that we are moving from asserted potential to realistic constructiveness…lack of injuries allowing.

    Should be worth my splurging some of that pay as you go credit on my internet dongle to find out.

    Also I reckon neck beard should be given the keys to the Bills after our game with them…it would/could/should suit him. He must have hated playing for the girls and their pimp.

    • GPLDAN

      Paulie Walnuts –

      I like your writing style and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

      • Paul Stuart

        Heheh cheers ears. As long as I don’t have to piss about with word press…

        • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

          Are you English, old chap?

          • MB30SD

            Mmmmmm…. yeeeees…. quuuuite.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            bloody ‘ell

            #remembertheamericanrevolution

          • Paul Stuart

            yeah gav’na …brummie actually. So we’re twins…

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            I aint no fuckin’ redcoat

          • Paul Stuart

            Don’t blame you, their stench is still very strong here. But I did notice a while ago, conveniently to my interest in the Bears, that Chicago is twinned with Birmingham or vice versa…

          • In the UK, it’s known as “the pesky colonial revolt”.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Blogfather tweet: NFL is playing ten early games Sunday and 2 late games. How does this make any sense?

    The folks at NFL REDZONE will be SOOO happy to just two games to jumped back and forth from Sunday afternoon.

    DUH.

  • CanadaBear

    A great punter can do it all. Punt them a mile, punt them a mile up, kick it OOB, coffin corner kicks, etc. The main thing they have to do is punt it the way the play is designed. Don’t out kick the coverage (not a problem for Podlesh) and just do what’s called for on that particular punt. A slightly better than avg punter can stay around forever by staying within the constraints of the system. I have no issue with using a 6th rounder on a punter as long as he performs. Maynard was better than avg for a long time. Not great but better than avg. By the end of his time in Chicago he was a little below avg. Podlesh was avg the first couple of years and then he had the annoying habit of consistently delivering a poor punt when we most needed a good one. I agree with Johnnywad but I certainly understand Jeff’s obsession with them.

    • Cormonster

      Remember when the Wanny-led Bears drafted Sauerbrun in the second round? He was a master of out-kicking the coverage.

      • bearsfantillend

        didn’t Sauerbrun famously win us a game against Denver? Oh yeah, he was playing for Denver kicking to Hester.

        • CanadaBear

          My absolute favorite Hester return. When he jumps over Sauerbrun I laugh every time.

      • AlbertInTucson

        And he was a douchebag to boot.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Most ImMost Important Special Teams Player of 2014: Pat O’Donnell, Rookie Punter.”

    I repectfully submit that THAT is an overstatement..

    As mediocre and unreliable as A-Pod was, I again remind Da Blog that the Bear defense surrendered 37 Scoring drives of 70+ yards or more including 90 and 89 yarders for TDs engineered by the much denigrated MATT CASSEL & a 5-10-1 Vikings team in that O.T. Loss in Minnesota. Podlesh pinned them at the 10 and the 11 and the defense promptly rolled over and gave up 6.

    O’Donnell doesn’t cure that disease.

    If the defense is not makedly better, and we have yet to really know if that is the case, O’Donnell can’t /won’t be much of a difference maker.

    “Most important special teams player”?

    Robbie Gould, whom we hope does not suffer ANY drop off from his “Gould”-Plated Standards.

    • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

      He hasn’t looked sharp in the preseason. Gould I mean. I have to wonder how losing one of the greatest long snappers of all time will effect his kick.

      • It worries me a bit too. I want to say, “Yeah, it’s only P.S.” but kickers like batters can go into slumps, and sometimes, they don’t come back out of them.

        • CanadaBear

          Robbie doesn’t strike me as a head case. Usually in baseball when someone loses it completely they are pretty weak mentally. Not trying to make fun of anyone but from my vantage point that’s how it seems.

          • Both batters and kickers lose confidence. It can happen at the flip of a switch. I don’t know if Gould is in one, but he can go into a slump (might be in one already; he missed 3 FGs in PS, not to mention a few key FGs last year).
            I think he would be able to pull out of it for the reason you said, but you never know.

          • AlbertInTucson

            To bastardize a Yogi Berra-ism:” 50% of place-kicking is 90% mental.”

          • CanadaBear

            He was 26/29 last year. He missed against the Wash, Minn and I don’t remember the other one (obviously it didn’t cost us a game if I can’t remember it). Hitting 90% of your FG’s doesn’t strike me as a slump.

          • But he did miss 3 FGs of 40 yds this PS. One got blocked (too low, or blown blocking).
            I hope he was maybe just trying out a new gulf swing, or getting used to the new long snapper/holder.

          • CanadaBear

            I think it was due to new guys + preseason.

          • Paul Stuart

            I imagine the timing with the long snapper might be a bit different at the moment. His confidence must surely rely on that certainty of timing he always had with PM. I imagine anyway…

  • MB30SD
  • GPLDAN

    Obligiatory Ray Guy photo on punter thread.

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/sites/csnbayarea/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/guy6.jpg?itok=lxdkD4-D

    A guy who looked like an old man when he was a young man, so today he looks the same just with white hair.

  • GPLDAN

    BTW, who is the Bears long snapper?

    • CanadaBear

      Jeremy Cain. He played a couple games for us last year when Mannelly went down. BTW he’s the samd Jeremy Cain that played backup LB for us years ago.

      • GPLDAN

        OK thanks. I guess Chad Rempel and Brandon Hartson got walking papers then.

        • CanadaBear

          Yep. Rempel in the first wave of cuts and Hartson when we went to 53.

      • For your consideration….

        Jeremy Cain sounds like a character in a movie that Nick Cage would be in.

        • GPLDAN

          A loner ex-con with a penchant for the supernatural. Nicholas Cage stars as Jeremy Cain in “Trade Wind”. rated R.

  • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

    What Briggs will show this season, the hungry one who can lead the defense and fight for a chance to be Champ in his perhaps “last ride” or a Fat, lazy & demotivate player who is counting the hours to retire? Desides Tucker´s leadership Lance worries me tons…

    • Me too. He’s never been a “leader”. He’s now only a leader by default. I wonder if he is the guy. I mean, back in the day when MB was around, Urlacher referred to him as the captain. When MB went down, Urlacher stepped up. so it’s not unprecedented, but maybe Briggs is like Pepp, good player, just not that type. I wish Peanut would lead, but I can’t even remember the last time a CB was the leader of a defensive unit. Even Richard Sherman in SEA isn’t the “Leader”, It’s gotta be anyone else on defense apparently.
      Mullet Man and Ratliff might end up being more leaders than Briggs, even though they’re new.
      There is also a third alternative with Briggs, that he’s a good leader AND trying, but that it’s not enough cuz father time has claimed another athlete (think Urlacher vs SEA).

      • CanadaBear

        Lance looks fit in the pics. Hope he still has it. I’m pretty sure the D energy will be generated by Allen. Not sure about the leadership. With all those vets I’m not sure anyone has to be the de facto leader but they all have to be positive influences on the young guys.

        • I hope he returns to Briggs form, Canada. I know he sorta treats camp in general like Jeff treats P.S. games, but he looked REALLY slow vs SEA. D.J. didn’t wow either, but maybe they’re sandbagging wily vets. (fingers-crossed).

          • CanadaBear

            Man, I’m with ya all the way. If Lance hadn’t been so outta shape when he came back last year, I wouldn’t be so worried. I’m not familiar enough with DJ to know if it was a preseason thing or father time catching up. I think Bostic will eventually get it but who knows when that will be. CD … no positive vibes whatsoever. I think Greene or Jones takes his spot by the end of the season.

          • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

            I hope it would be Jones, he was a speed demon with seminoles just lacks of NFL´s experience, about Greene, he is a bench LB to me.

          • CanadaBear

            If Emery hadn’t drafted him in the first rd one of those 2 guys would already be taking his place.

      • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

        It seems that any game against seattle settles the retirement of any of our defense. Damn!!

    • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

      I recall having the same conversations about Lance year. Then, when the season came, he balled out until his injury. Briggs is a gamer. Don’t worry about Briggs.

      • CanadaBear

        I’m with ya Doc but he’s at that age when things can change dramatically from one season to the next.

        • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

          How’s retirement going, Canada? You out at the new joint yet?

          • CanadaBear

            Yeah. We’ve been in Nanaimo now for 3 weeks. Still not completely unpacked but really don’t care. My Beloved Bride and I are lovin’ it. One of these days I’m going to have to be a little more disciplined and start a work out program. But it won’t be today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

        I hope you are right Doc but Seattle´s game put evidence father time doesn´t forget. and LB depend on him even more provided the level of the rest

  • Sactowns#1

    A) What the hell is one on one kicking?
    B) Went out to Lance Briggs new smokehouse yesterday. Pretty tasty stuff! And Briggs is looking fit and ready for battle http://www.news10.net/story/sports/nfl/2014/09/02/nfl-star-chicago-bears-linebacker-lance-briggs-opens-smokehouse-in-hometown-of-elk-grove/14952119/

    • GPLDAN

      Biggsy just hopped a train for the coast.

      • For your consideration….

        Running down the platform to catch the train, barely made it, then sat there sweating for the next 2 hrs due to the exertion.

        • MB30SD

          smelling like a sushi joint when you pass by and they’re doing all of their tempura to get ready for the rush.

    • CanadaBear

      I love the pic of the woman kissing him on the cheek. Lance is always a joker.

  • Sactowns#1

    Peanut on ESPN 1000 is a great interview. The guy is funny, smart and honest.

  • If Jeff played FF, I would have invited him to our Punter league.
    Speaking of which, draft tonight jabrones.
    In the infamous words of what’s his name: can’t wait.

    • GPLDAN

    • MB30SD

      check out his tweet… his is playing, and he picked the Bears D.

      Might want to do everything you can to get him to play with you guys.

      #easypickins

      • Oh, our league is full already.
        Trac dropped out, so Scharf took his spot, and Tobster took the last spot for the team, unlike a body ventura double I know.

        • tobijohn

          I really had no choice, I’m a product of the Catholic educational system. That means I’m primarily motivated by guilt, obligation and the fear of disappointing anyone…

  • Also, I don’t know if Punter will be most important rook. Yes, 4 IMPACT plays, but if those skill players have more chances at screwing up than 4 times. If Fuller gets burnt, THAT’S an impact play.

  • Peanut FTW

    I tend to think the punter is one of the least important positions on the whole team. I mean, seriously even the kicker has to hit it between the uprights and on kickoffs at least keep it between the sidelines. The punter doesn’t have stipulations. Kick it as far as you can, go out of bounds or don’t so long as you don’t totally shank it out of bounds for <20 yards, good. If he gets hurt.. you go for your fourth and shorts or you have the kicker or the QB pooch it. I don't mind the pick as it has been an area of need but I certainly don't think he is anywhere near the most important rookie on the squad.

  • As for this week vs Bills (I know Jeff will post his keys soon), I predict the Bills on offense will run A LOT.
    They’ve see the same things we’ve seen. They’ll run that pistol and force the DEs and LBs to make a decision. They’ll test the atleticism of the DEs and Briggs/DJ, and the inexperience of the SAM. That’ll also force the safeties who aren’t used to working with one another, to communicate, recognize and take good angles and sure tackles. They’ll hit us with a heavy rotation of Jackson/Spiller, then when our LBs start cheating, they’ll expose that middle like we’ve been vulnerable to.
    However, luckily for us, they have no real receiver threat to keep the D that honest; plus they have a qb in his sophomore year behind a so-so line, so I think we can withstand the pistol/bootleg/PA for this game.
    Still, we’re going to find a lot out about how smart, athletic and cohesive our D is right off the bat, not to mention how much or run D has actually improved.

    • CanadaBear

      Don’t sleep on Watkins at WR. I agree Manuel isn’t going to beat us. Hopefully we come out of that game healthy with a few answers on D.

      • Isn’t Watkins out this week because the Lions re-injured his ribs? Either way, not sure if he’ll be 100%

        • CanadaBear

          I don’t think he’s out but I’m sure he’s sore. I’m guessing Lance and DJ would like to help him out in that area! I’m not sure I’ve gone into a season with less clarity on D. We could be 10-6 or 6-10 and neither would surprise me.

          • D AND specials.
            Everyone assumes we’ll be lighting it up on offense again, but I tend to believe in regression to the means (which can work both ways).
            Then again, maybe I’m not used to the Bears being perennially potent on offense like the Saints.

          • CanadaBear

            Unless we have numerous injuries on the O, I think we’ll be fine there. I also think ST’s will come around and get better during the season. But that D …

        • AlbertInTucson

          Watkins says he expects to be able to play.

          • For your consideration….

            a rookie thinks he can play with sore ribbies? It’s going to be a tough and pain filled first couple games for the rookie.

          • I don’t know how as a WR you don’t develop alligator arms with bruised/messed up ribs as a 240 pound angry LB is running at you like a bull.

          • ask ricky watters where alligator arms come from.

    • Peanut FTW

      I don’t think this game will show us a whole lot. The Bears should be expecting run a lot on 1st and 2nd downs for all the reasons you mentioned combine with their #1 WR being hurt. So, if the Bears expect run going in and Manuel cant make them pay early, it will end up in a lot of 3rd and longs for the new Nascar package. The problem is, I don’t think the Bills pose enough of a dual threat right now for us to learn how the Bears D will hold up against a multi-faceted offense.
      So I guess you say, if they stop the run… well the Bills don’t pose any aerial threat and if they allow >200 yards and eek out a win you just say o well the Bills had to try keep running it because they don’t have an aerial attack.

    • AlbertInTucson

      So I should start C.J. Spiller this week?

  • AlbertInTucson
  • AlbertInTucson

    Fantasy Football Fun Fact: Jamaal Charles had the distinction of not only being the FIRST player selected in our league, but also the LAST K.C. Chief selected!

    • GPLDAN

      Nobody picked up their D/ST?

      #mistake

      • AlbertInTucson

        2 things: Were’ only 8 teams and VERY basic, no D/ST in play.

        Would have thought Dewayne Bowe might have gotten a sniff but not so.

    • In our league, someone might HAVE TO pick up Alex Smith and Colquitt.
      #dabomb

  • AlbertInTucson

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Here’s how much I care that Lance Briggs missed a Monday practice to open his restaurant:”

    Well, Dan Patrick promptly put his stamp of DISapproval on that this morning. Right before picking the Packers to lose to the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

    • MB30SD

      uhhhgggg….

    • CanadaBear

      Al why do you torture yourself listening to Dan Patrick? I know he makes you nuts.

      • AlbertInTucson

        That station is usually what I had on the day before on the way home from work listening to the local guys so when I get in the car in the morning, Patrick is there. I don’t hate the SHOW. The Dannettes don’t really bug me (and one of them is a Bear fan) and I DO like some of his guests. Particularly ones who are willing put Danny in his place. Rich Eisen never plays yes man to Dan.

        Of course, when, like this morning, he starts beating the drum for the latest Adam Sandler cinematic travesty I have to bail immediately.

        • CanadaBear

          Makes sense. Adam Sandler … Ugh.

  • Speaking of specials, Patrick Mannelly has got us at 9 and a half wins.
    Says the Falcons/Panther’s game are the two games that might determine our playoff hopes because he could see us winning or losing both.

    • Also, Mannelly is a good commentator. He’s like waaaay better than Lach or even most DJs on the Score. Very detailed and non-homer.

      • GPLDAN

        Better than Lach? More articulate and insightful?

        • Oh yeah. Then again, a chia pet is more articulate and insightful than Lach.
          Mannelly said he has us losing a lot at the beginning, which somewhat surprised me. I thought he would sugar coat it since his friends are still on the team, but nope.

        • MB30SD

          Like that’s hard. Hahaha

      • beninnorcal

        I’ve listened a few times and agree. Happened to listen today and I remember that windy game he reference. I remember a FG attempt by SF, that halfway to the goal posts, took a 90 degree turn and went sideways out of bounds.

    • Oh, and on Mannelly, they asked him what his worst play was in his career.
      Sounds like a no brainer, right (ahem, Audibles from the Long Snapper).
      Not so, romeo!
      He cited a missed snap in SF back in the Vasher days (didn’t think you would hear a Vasher name drop today, did ya?).
      He said the wind was so crazy, that gatorade cooler lids were rolling across the field. His snap flew wide.

  • GPLDAN

    Emery hints Earl Bennett was called. Does Bennett just not want to play football any more?

    I think that’s the real story there.

    • Someone else conjectured that ever since his bro died, he checked out.
      Hope that’s not the case. Who better to rally around than with your homies/teammates (like when Farvre’s dad died before that MNF game).
      I could see it the other way too. Maybe he didn’t spend as much time with his bro cuz of work/football, and it made him realize that family/friends should be the priority.
      I could understand both sentiments.

  • For your consideration….

    hey , is our fantasy draft tonight?

    • Yes. 9:30 EST

      • For your consideration….

        So 2 Punters, 1 Holder, No WR’s, only backup TE’s and 3rd WR’s, 1 GM and cheerleaders optional?

        • MB30SD

          I thought 1 starting and 1 optional cheerleader was mandatory?

          • GPLDAN

            Talk about hitting the six hole in stride….

          • For your consideration….

            whaddayoucare, they’re all 6’s in your book. 6!!?!!!?!?!!?!? You cray.

          • MB30SD

            I went through, girl by girl, and gave my feedback on 2 different squads… you never replied to me!?

            Here is a 9 in my book (and she’s on the hottest NFL cheer squad from what I’ve seen): http://www.dolphinscheerleaders.com/cheerleader_profiles/brianne

            Seconds 20 to 28: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIfbghHdG1s

            mmmm… brianne. So hot.

          • MB30SD

            ANSWER ME!!!!

            hahahaha

          • For your consideration….

            I caught my wife about to empty the rest of the 1st bottle of Trade Wind into the sink before I left for work. She laughed as I snuck up on her. Never waste I said in my best Bale voice.
            #iswaynebradygonnahavetochokeabeeotch?

        • beninnorcal

          Vince Young at QB.

          • Just read that more ppl own Tebow than Chad Henne in FF.
            Foreals.

          • beninnorcal

            I saw a pretty funny post on Chive about a Canadian comedian who was trolling some Yahoo fantasy mock drafts. I’ll try to link above.

        • If they brought the honeybears back, I would def include cheerleader. Then maybe, MB would join and comment on how all the cheerleaders on his team look like tranny moms.

  • MB30SD

    Canada, can you guy please take this asshole back: http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/02/showbiz/justin-bieber-arrested/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

    Jesus, what a waste of space.

    • CanadaBear

      How did I know it was going to be the Biebs? One of these days that little pipsqueak is going to take a swing at someone when his 2 tons of bodyguards aren’t around. The result won’t be pretty. Can’t happen soon enough.

    • beninnorcal

      I think it’s funny and ironic when famous people get mad at other people for taking pictures of them because they’re so famous (mostly because of all the pictures out there of them).

      • CanadaBear

        Exactly. If he’s that sick of all the attention, maybe he could act like an adult and quit being such a bitch. Just a thought.

        • Trac

          Someone just needs to introduce him to Lindsey Lowhan. They’d cancel each other out and o.d. together inside of a week.

          • MB30SD

            I would love that little shit to take a first swing at me. I’d either let him hit me and be an instant millionaire… or I’d decide in the moment that it was worth the money… and to be america’s hero and rip his annoying little fucking head off.

  • beninnorcal

    Re: Manelly on the Score, he said some interesting things about Mike Brown. Said he never stopped talking on the field making sure everyone was on the same page. Said that, while MB was soft-spoken off the field, his on-field voice could hit a pitch that would pierce thru any elements or noise. Manelly and the rest of the team could hear him clearly from the sideline.
    I thought that was pretty badass.
    I miss #30.

    • I heard that too. Mannelly in one segment gave me more insight into the Bears than a whole off-season of PFT.
      Apparently, Briggs wasn’t with the team or something, which surprised Manelly.

      • beninnorcal

        Briggs was opening his bbq joint out here in Elk Grove called Double Nickel(55, I presume). I guess Mannelly noticed and said something about it. Even Trestman wouldn’t say in his presser where Briggs was, said it was ‘personal reasons’.

        • Yeah, Mannelly remarked “it’s the first day of the 53 man roster. Surprised he wasn’t there.”
          Sounds like a leader to me.

          • beninnorcal

            Mannelly’s good on the show, light-hearted, pokes a little fun at long-snapping in football. Talked about how he wasn’t included in a few renditions of Madden and he seemed amused by it.
            He’s a badass.

  • beninnorcal
  • Trac

    Just caught Urlachers act on Sirius. He’s bowing to the cheese to win the division and has a man crush on Rodgers. He still talks like he’s a player not a commentator, good luck with that.

    • MB30SD

      Asshole

      • Trac

        Me or Urlacher? Hahaha

        • MB30SD

          lach. You’re a good dude, just misdirected.

          BAAAHAHAHAHAHA

          • GPLDAN

            (farts)

          • MB30SD

          • Trac

            Ha. Yes, I turned and went the other way. Best decision of my life.

          • MB30SD

            good for you maingj. Whatever it takes in my mind. I support all those types of decisions… wait, we’re talking about divorce right? Hahahahahaha

    • Considering that Rodgers tackled Urlacher to keep him from running it back for a TD in the Championship Game, doesn’t surprise me.

  • Mundy and McCray listed as starters. Hmmmmm. Might have to change my FF Name to “Peanut M&Ms”.
    IF they suck, “M&M Crumbs and Bums”

    • GPLDAN

      What is Fuller’s status?

      Is Jennings going to move in to NIckel?

      • Not sure what Fuller’s status is. They said he’d be ready for week 1, so that’s what I’m going by, but we probably won’t know for sure till later this week.

        From my understanding, Jennings will move to the inside in nickle packages, which makes me feel much better. He tends to make plays inside, specifically jumping routes.

        As the season progresses, I expect Fuller to play more nickle, man, take TEs and even blitz (or maybe even some Safety). Kinda like Woodson back in the day. But, first, baby steps. Man the RCB.

        • Fuller practiced in full all week before Cleveland. He’s fine.

        • MB30SD

          Jennings at nickel is beastmode. Dude is a MAJOR ball hawk. He’s either going to have a ton of INTs/Pick-6s, and/or he’s going to jack some fools the fuck up!

    • Cormonster

      The predictilator’s final simulations before the season have the Bears going 7-8-1 and taking last place in the North. The dude said the Bears are thin on offense and really no better on defense. Only Lamar Houston graded out as above average. Stat predictions for Jeffery, Marshall, and Forte were basically the same numbers as last year. It also only has 4 teams with a greater than 10% shot at winning the SB – Patriots, Broncos, Saints, and Seahawks. Packers had the 5th highest % chance at under 4%. Gonna have to remember that for later in the season.

      • MB30SD

        that idea is just the worst.

        Seriously, that’s inane unless the O is hit with the injury bug this year. Thin where? TE… cause that’s about the only spot.

        The D he has a major point, but things usually don’t turn out the way they first look. Our Dline and corners look pretty damn strong to me. If the LBs can just not be total dogshit, I think that will allow our totally dogshit safeties to look mediocre… which would mean the entire D will take a huge step up from last year, and that’s all we need if the O can do the same.

        (for the record, I think specials are as good as last year, if not better with POD instead of Podlesh)

  • We all know Jeff loves his punters.

  • I argue that the K is always the most important STs player.

    • Frank Schoenburg

      I agree

  • In case you’re crunching numbers. According to Biggsy.

    Currently #Bears have just a little more than $4.5 million in remaining salary cap space for 2014.

    • spotrac has them at just over $5M.

      http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bears/cap/

      • Would that be enough to sign S Chris Clemons?
        Why don’t we jump on him? System? Inj? Other?
        McCray starting does not inspire faith.

        • Clemons would likely sign on a 1 year minimum deal at this point. That’s typically pretty much all that’s given out in season. Player banking on proving it and cashing in the next year (like Ratliff last year).
          I don’t know what’s up with Clemons. Conte is the starter when he’s healthy.

  • bhahaha Hayden’s back, MB! Like herpes.
    Wilson placed on designated to return list.
    Apparently, we can’t get rid of Carrey or Hayden.

    • MB30SD

      jesus. (or CD for that matter)

      How’s he back?

      • GPLDAN

    • Frank Schoenburg

      As long as he’s inactive for every game before being cut, I’m OK with this

  • For those interested, I have 10 predictions for the Bears this year. What do you think? Have predictions of your own?

    http://dabearsbeat.com/2014/09/02/10-predictions-for-chicagos-season/

    • MB30SD

      good. I think it’s paea (obviously).

      I think a lot of your predictions are based on solid logic, should be interesting to see how it all plays out.

      Oh, one from me? Sure, same as it ever was… at some point in the season it will click with Bostic and he’ll put the passing game together in his head.

      Here’s a bonus, C.Jones will see significant playing time in the last 3rd of the season.

      • GPLDAN

        It interests me that Mannely said that the Bears will drop games early in the season, and it will come down to how they gel and come together.

        • That’s like 20 years of Bears experience. That raised my eyebrow. What he said about Briggs also raised my eyebrow (insert spoc meme here).
          If it was anyone else, I might not take it as seriously, but he’s fresh off the team. He’s intimately aware of the contemporary dynamics in that locker room.
          Pat also is not a bonehead (ahem, Lach).

          • GPLDAN

            You’ll be happy to know I took $300k long positions today in Perennially Potent (NASDAQ: HARD) and Contemporary Dynamics (NYSE: TRST).

          • NASDAQ HARD.
            New FF name, or porn name.

          • Briggs is not a leader. He always just had to do his job next to Urlacher, but never had to worry about leading.

            That said, he did a pretty solid job as leader/playcaller last year before getting hurt IMO.

    • “Jay Cutler stays healthy and has the best
      season of his career. He throws for over 4000 yards, completes over 65%
      of his passes, has 30 touchdowns, 15 interceptions, and a passer rating
      somewhere in the mid 90s. And no, I do not think Cutler wins MVP, or
      comes particularly close. I don’t think he ever reaches that level.
      He’s a better quarterback than his statistics so far suggest, but I
      don’t think he’ll ever be a top 5 quarterback in the NFL.”

      Bam. Right off the bat.

      Here’s the million dollar question: WHAT separates Cutler from Brady, Peyton, Brees and Rodgers?

      Or, to frame it another way, if Brady, Peyton, Brees or Rodgers were swapped in for Cutler, would they contend for MVP more than Cutler?

      If so, why is that? hmmmmm

      • Cutler turns it over too much. I expect the TO to drop but still be more than those guys.

        • That’s what I was thinking since you predicted him throwing 15 INTs.
          So you’re implying, he’s stupider than those other guys.
          Got it.
          Johnny, the floor is yours bwhaha…

          • MB30SD

            wrong attribute.

            He’s a risk taker, those guys are not. He has a personality to kick ass and take names… but he’s not always careful doing so. That and he has a arm those two dbags don’t.

            http://www.thefastertimes.com/wp-content/uploads/uncategorized/files/2013/09/BI5UDxFCAAAwJEZ.jpg_large.jpg

          • Well, Brett Farvre showed a QB can win gunslinging it. Then again, He’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

          • tobijohn

            I forgot how the auction draft works. Do I just have to be logged into the league site and all will be made apparent to me?

          • tobijohn

            never mind, I figured it out…

          • if you want to get less statistics-y, he’s not as consistent in his mechanics as those guys. Leads to greater accuracy issues IMO.

            The goal to me is to get him to the level of Ryan/Romo/Rivers. Really good but just a notch below those top guys.

          • MB30SD

            Ryan Leaf?

          • the TD/INT projections were actually based on a study I did this offseason. Didn’t just make those up. Hoping his TD percentage stays the same (5.4%) and his INT percentage drops to below 3% (like it has in all 3 of his previous years where he was in the same offense 2+ years in a row). That would give him, assuming 575 passes, about 30 TD and 15 INT.

            The original study: http://dabearsbeat.com/2014/06/26/jay-cutler-in-the-same-offense/

  • MB30SD
  • Shady

    I feel like special teams can be a compliment to good defense. But if your D is crap, you’re sort of just delaying the inevitable.

  • For your consideration….

    lol, Welker out 4 games for substance abuse policy.

    • Shady

      Meth, right?

    • Frank Schoenburg

      It was at the Kentucky derby? Your just fucking with me, right?

  • GPLDAN
    • johnnywad

      He’s going to put a pistol in his mouth inside of a decade. That head has got to be overflowing with Tau.

  • FF draft in TEN mins

    • Frank Schoenburg

      Pat O’Donnell is not on the draft board. Booo.

      • Yeah, that’s odd. WTF
        maybe they’ll add him later on the waiver wire
        sux

        • Frank Schoenburg

          douchebags

          • NewBearInTown

            You shoulda hung out man. Autodraft was not kind…

          • Frank Schoenburg

            I know. I was tired. Fucking Ben Tate.

    • GPLDAN

      Light up a Kool, the fun starts.

    • GPLDAN

      how do you enter the room?

  • For your consideration….

    dude

    • GPLDAN

      We may as well crown your ass right now Johnny

      • For your consideration….

        i picked up solid value but spent way too much on Forte

        • For your consideration….

          cost me a solid WR

    • lol $70 for Forte

  • Does Frank even own a QB? Kinda important in a TWO QB league

    • For your consideration….

      how did frank get the twin towers?

      • For your consideration….

        and who the fuck stole Santonio from me? taht was cold

      • Frank Schoenburg

        Skills

    • Frank Schoenburg

      Going to try and trade.

  • For your consideration….

    im out

  • EnderWiggin

    (FF)There are some crazy point projections for the first week.. 186? jeez.

    • That’s me. Prepare your Angerer, GP!
      You gotta account for an extra QB. So that’s at least +15
      A punter +10
      Players also get bonuses for all kinds of stuff, like for scoring from 40/50 yards account, receptions, completions, etc…
      Boooyah

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