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Jordan Lynch Embraces Change to Running Back. Will He Make Bears Roster?

| May 17th, 2014

He’s quickly becoming the Bears most interesting rookie, Jordan Lynch. The Bears loved him during their pre-draft meetings and from all initial reports at rookie camp, the former Northern Illinois quarterback is adapting well to his newfound position in the backfield.

From the Sun-Times:

“Quarterback’s all mental in practice,” the former NIU signal caller said Friday at Halas Hall, following the Bears’ first day of rookie mini-camp. “Now I gotta turn on the physical side in practice, and do special teams, always on the go.

“Staying in shape is going to be key.”

Lynch is right. In order to make the Bears roster as a running back he’s going to need to play bigger, play stronger and a be an indispensable asset on special teams. But the mental side can not be discounted and Lynch’s comments prove he’s already leapt that not-so-insignificant hurdle.

How many successful college quarterbacks have seen possibly promising NFL careers derailed by their stubborn unwillingness to change positions? Lynch has embraced the change, embraced one of the best offensive coaching staffs in the sport and I get the sense fans will be embracing him loudly on the practice fields of Bourbonnais this summer.

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  • beninnorcal

    Sounds interesting, hope he makes the roster. Also, when does training camp start? Mid-July?

  • MB30SD

    The answer is none jeff. Just off the top of my head… none. Right?

    This is a total wtf pick to me. The dude ran a 4.8 40, had the constant threat of passing to give him the yards on the ground he got, and we already drafted a badass real rb by all accounts.

    Unless we drafted him specifically to be a dynamic special teams hero a la Billy bates, I am even more puzzled by this pick as we go.

    That said, I’m sure phil has a well thought out plan that he feels will help the team win… and I’m definitely willing to give him the benefit of the doubt at this point.

    • CanadaBear

      Since he’s an UFA it’s not like there is a lot of risk. If he pans out as a backup RB, ST’er, possible Wildcat, we’re laughing. If he doesn’t pan out, he’s cut. That’s it.

      • MB30SD

        yep

    • AlbertInTucson

      Bobby Douglass SHOULD have switched.

      He had the fire and build to play LB or TE. or maybe even a back. He did rush for damn near 1,000 yards once. In a FOURTEEN game season!

      His occassional shining moments (4 TD passes in one game – 3 with a fractured throwing wrist) as a QB are buried in the rubble of inaccurate throws and poor decicison making as a QB.

      It CAN be done.

      Richie Petitbone was a QB in College. Gary Fencik was a receiver.

      Ed Podolak was a college QB.

      Paul Hornug won the Heisman as a college QB.

      I won’t even bother to go into all the black QBs who were summarily switched to (and thrived at) other positions because of their race.

      I think Lynch had better be a GREAT special teams guy if he wants to stick.

      • CanadaBear

        I remember when he was playing baseball. He threw a baseball from home plate into the left field stands at Comiskey (probably was aiming for center field). One clip showed him pitching (he telegraphed his off speed stuff so much even I could tell) and a guy hit a comebacker. He fielded it and ran to first for the out. The announcer said, “even pitching he’s better running the ball”. Classic.

        • Big Mike

          I loved that guy. Toughest son of a bitch around. But he made Bradshaw look like Einstein. As a TE he would have set the bar

          • CanadaBear

            Gotta agree. I always thought LB because I had no idea if could catch a football.

          • SC Dave

            After Ditka? I don’t think so.

          • Big Mike

            Taller and faster. He would have been more along the lines of the new hybrid TEs. It would have never happened. But on a relative basis to the players of his day, he would have been a whole different type of offensive player.

      • Bobby Douglass

        Yeah, maybe I should have 🙂

    • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

      Emery is glaring at first wave of waivers around the league for a LB… something interesting will show in time..

    • Big Mike

      He’s headed to the Practice Squad.

  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

    Lynch is a wildcard. He’s like Earl Bennett in that critics say he’s too slow but sets rushing records, can’t pass but sets passing records, too small but runs guys over.

    He’s got a skill set like Tebow except that he can throw the rock and WANTS to be an NFL player whatever it takes. Trestman will find uses for him on the punt team, the FG team, 3rd and short on goal line, wildcat, pistol, shotgun, handgun, whatever.

    It will be tested in practice and the preseason. If it doesn’t work cut his ass. It it does it’s just another weapon. I personally don’t think it will translate over and I’d rather have Cutty gunning it on the goal line to BMarsh or Alshon but if we play a team that defends the pistol as poorly as we do then plug him in on certain situations for a strategic advantage.

    It should be interesting to say the least and there is no risk as an UDFA. Just another story to cover while we watch Biggsy expand like the universe.

    • gpldan waiting on camp

      Neil DeGrasse Tyson in the latest Cosmos uses redshift techniques to measure the rate of expansion between the moles on Biggsy’s belly, to determine the rate of italian beef intake.

      Fascinating stuff.

      Oh and Brock Vereen is the most interesting draft choice, let’s not all melt over the gritty white guy who reminds us of ourselves. Vereen can actually START if he pans out, and potentially have his career measured against Ha-Ha, and be a catalyst for a new era when the Bears actually started outdrafting the Packers instead of vice-versa. That’s the hope.

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        I’m convinced Biggsy will die before this year is over.

        Christian Jones will not only make this team but will enter the rotation. I can’t believe he wasn’t drafted by ANYONE.

        Brock Vereen will start sometime before the bye week.
        I think Sutton will come in to camp in sick shape and will perform where needed.

        • MB30SD

          This too!

          I looooves you guys!!

      • MB30SD

        Look at us… like a coupla giddy kids. Joined at the brain on everything you just said.

      • I don’t know why, but I feel like Vereen looks a bit fragile. His frame that is, not his toughness. Maybe I’m just irrationally fretting. Hope he endures obviously. CB is also a difficult position to learn as a rookie, and some may argue that nickle CB might actually be harder to learn and master because nickle CBs don’t have the sidelines to help them.

        We might see Vereen and TIllman on the outside and Jennings on the inside when the opposition has 3 WRs, and if they use a TE as a defacto 3rd WR, then Vereen can slide in (with his size). Hopefully when we play the Graham types Peanut takes them, but we’ll see.

        Our defense is going to look totally different this season, and I’m excited/worried how the new look will turn out.

    • If he was 240 instead of 220 I’d say make him a FB. Wonder if he can bulk up that much with a year on the practice squad

      • SC Dave

        Emery hoping Lync =h can be the Evan Rodriquez he should have drafted…

  • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

    Grit & Hustle can´t be couched…good for the rookie.

    • MB30SD

      Agree… only tough discussions.

  • tobijohn

    Is there any advantage to having TWO potential passers in the backfield?

    • NewBearInTown

      Not in the NFL. Opposing defenses are too fast and too disciplined for trick plays. Maybe once a season that works – you can’t build an offense on it.

      • tobijohn

        I figured as much…

        • NewBearInTown

          Chip Kelly actually a great example of this. His first game, he did all kinds of stuff to throw off the opposing D, and it worked. That lasted one week. The next week, the opposing D caught up and Kelly reverted to more traditional methods.

          A lifetime of work on new, innovative plays. It took one week for the NFL to catch up…

          • SC Dave

            As Lovie used to say – winning in the NFL is hard. And it is, even the best teams have some games that are just hard to win.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I wouldn’t imagine there’s a back in the NFL that can’t throw a football. I can throw a football.

      • tobijohn

        Yeah but can you play Special Teams?

  • gpldan waiting on camp

    There were some other gems in the Trib link for Rook Camp that MB posted last thread other than the punter banging punts against the roof.

    The big one was the 11 man walk throughs and Trestman sending a group off the field because they weren’t moving fast enough.

    In Trestman’s world you prepare and you prepare and you step on the field knowing the signals, the call and where the fuck you line up. Anything else and you will be taking laps. That’s the anti-Lovie mentality the Bears need badly. No more country club and gold plated hot tubs. Homework is not optional.

    • tobijohn

      Remember all the times just before the snap that either Cutler or one of the receivers was trying to get poor Devin to line up where he was supposed to?

      • Big Mike

        This too shall not be spoken of.

    • CanadaBear

      And yet it was Tucker’s D that failed to pounce on a loose ball.

      • Big Mike

        We shall not speak of that. The most unforgivable play by a Bears’ team perhaps ever, but certainly as long as I can remember, which takes us back to the mid-70s.

        • CanadaBear

          They had some insane plays from the very late ’60’s until Pardee took over.

      • Predict Pic Six

        Thank you Mr.Anderson

    • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

      And time is running out to Tucker if he flats.

      • MB30SD

        Agree… I think.

    • MB30SD

      Great point gp. love it.

      No golden parachutes bitches!

    • Big Mike

      This also has a lot do with the new CBA that limits time on the practice field. There simply isn’t time for bullshit. I learned from my coaching mentors, that you have to “Coach on the Fly”. No stopping drills to make individual corrections. The NFL takes that to the extreme. Trestman takes it even further.

  • AlbertInTucson

    So,the Oprah-produced “Michael Sam In The NFL” documentary/reality show has been, um, “postponed.” I’m SURE the Rams, who had no knowledge Sam had made that deal with HARPO Productions when they drafted him, had NOTHING to do with that decision.

    • Big Mike

      It’s cool if they did. Put this on his agent Should have asked Rams first. It’s also important to take a non-football centric look at this (what? I know..) There are media interests well beyond the ever expanding reach of the NFL.

      • AlbertInTucson

        And let me clarify, the Oprah deal was signed BEFORE the draft.

        • Big Mike

          Guess they couldn’t have asked the Rams then. I put this in the bucket of “nice try”. From what I’ve read it seems like he probably new it was a bad idea as soon as he started getting ready for rookie camp.

        • MB30SD

          Haaaaaated iiiiitttttttttt!

    • NewBearInTown

      If I’m Jeff Fisher, I tell him flat: “The documentary is gone by the end of the week or you’re off the team Monday morning.”
      I think there’s a place for something like this if he makes the team and has a respectable rookie season. Get that first year under your belt, then do this next March.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Sadly, it also kind of puts lie to Sam’s assertion that “I just want to be another guy trying to make a team”. Sure. Just anoher guy with a camera crew documenting my every move though that move has “agent’ written all over it.

        • SC Dave

          And looking for *any* possible way to make a scandal out of something.

          So what happens when one player, the heat of a drill, gets pissed off an calls another guy a fag (neither is Sam)? Do the Rams then become “homophobic” and a “hostile work environment”? Does some law come into play that forces the Rams to keep him on the payroll / pay some giant settlement?

          How do the lawyers win in this one?

          • CanadaBear

            I think it’s mostly a bad idea that got shut down before it got started. No doubt the young man likes attention (not to mention the money) and got talked into it. The Rams talked him out of it quite quickly.

        • Irish Sweetness

          ‘The Kiss’ was so staged too, you don’t see players do anything other than hug their mommas, but that was a movie kiss. Well done for him going through what he’s gone through … but did he have to “prove” he was gay on-screen?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Doesn’t he have to actually make the team to be the first OGPITNFL ? They have a talented defense, I don’t think he makes the roster.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Nice story, Robert Mathis, and congratuations on the forthcoming birth of your child BUT…all you had to do was call the NFL drug hotline and they’d have told you that drug had been n the NFL’s banned substance list for years.

    And now the FDA is say it wasn’t even approved as a male fertility drug.

  • bearsfantillend

    “9 of 10. Colt Lyerla not getting drafted proves the NFL draws the line at child murder deniers. So as long as you don’t do THAT… ”

    i thought he was busted for cocaine not child murder. jeff you wanna share some insight on this?

    on a side note he signed with the Packers. So the Packers now have their own pool jumper.

    • NewBearInTown

      I was surprised by that also. Lyerla and Kyle Long were apparently very close at Oregon. I thought that would have made the TE needy Bears a good landing spot for him. I know he has a drug history longer than the one cocaine bust, but I never heard anything about a death.

  • Jokey

    Tucker says the third cornerback is on the field as much as the third linebacker. Who is the third linebacker?

    • TheBigCheesy

      Jordan Lynch

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        Lol, nice cheese, I laughed. In all seriousness though I’m actually excited to see Shea play SLB at 6’3 252.
        You and I both know he can finish a check so to speak.

        • I think Bostic beats him out as starting SAM.

          But we’ll see Shea a lot in nickel too, IMO. 3-3-5 nickel looks, where Shea is 3rd “LB” who rushes lot

          • they’re also working Christian Jones at this role. IMO 2015 Bostic replaces Briggs at WILL and Shea/Jones fight for SAM spot.

          • NewBearInTown

            Where does Greene fit in that prediction? Backup Will?

          • MB30SD

            exactly, you guys know who I think it the odd man out in that group.

          • I’ve heard some suggest they think Greene ends up as Mike. I could see him backing up Bostic next year. We’ll see.

          • gpldan waiting on camp

            Khaseem Greene had best focus on being a ST standout this year.

          • MB30SD

            Over dinner… no way. Greene is the better athlete and fb palyer

          • I think he’s back up SAM once the figure it all out. He seems smallish for MLB and not enough of a hitter for our WILL. But maybe I’m still assuming a Lovie-ish D.

            Under Tucker, it might be a whole new ball game (starting with a two-gap DT).

          • Irish Sweetness

            Why isn’t Shea backing up DJW ?

          • MB30SD

            because he’s played DE his entire career… how does that qualify him to be an NFL MLB?!?!

            I thought we’ve gone over this ad nauseum?

          • Irish Sweetness

            But he can play outside? Who’s backing up DJW if it’s not Bostic?

        • MB30SD

          don’t feed the troll (you’re welcome Al)

  • gpldan waiting on camp

    Day 2 Notes from Da Hubby Bubby’s kid

    http://www.chicagofootball.com/2014/05/17/notebook-bears-rookie-minicamp-day-two/at1xpt8/

    They had Lynch fielding punts (hmmm) and on kickoff team.

  • gpldan waiting on camp

    This observation should make you happy

    “Will Sutton continues to find his way into the backfield, much to the delight of D-line coach Paul Pasqualoni. Sutton and second-round defensive tackle Ego Ferguson were lauded by Trestman for hustling downfield as well.”

    Don’t dog it, Ego. Good hustle.

    P.S. There are SIXTY SIX rookies in camp. Phillips fucking 66!

    • Order 66! (Nerd alert)

      • Irish Sweetness

        “Master Skywalker, there are too many of them …. what are we going to do ?”

        Sorry kiddo, the name’s Darth ….

  • gpldan waiting on camp

    Opening day motivational speaker for the rooks, who does Trestman bring in?

    Wilbur Marshall.

    Nice choice, coach. Nice choice.

    • MB30SD

      I LOVE herm Edwards.

      dude is an AWESOME motivational speaker. Google is speech to the nfl rookies a few years ago. Not so much as a coach sadly.

      • tobijohn

        Yeah, I bookmarked a bunch of those. I think his HC record was a bit on the mediocre side but didn’t he get somebody into the playoffs one year? Chiefs, I think..

        • MB30SD

          Yeah, I just remember his stint with the jets. Brutal.

          The guy is funny as shit in a stereotypical football coach way. His speeches, of which I’ve seen about 3, are always really entertaining.

    • Matt Foley wasn’t available?

    • Irish Sweetness

      They should bring in Art Schlichter on day two.

  • The transition must be odd for Lynch. Going from big man/star on campus to defacto 5th QB on a team, trying to make the roster as a HB, KR, etc. Talk about humbling.

    • MB30SD

      welcome to the nfl. If he makes the team I’m sure the salary and free pussy (yes, even a STer gets NFL groupies) will salve his wounds.

  • I originally postulated Lynch as the fan fav because of who he is and his under dog status.
    I also think a lot of fans in general are curious if he can indeed make it in the NFL because many perceive him as a poor man’s Tebus; as such, if Lynch makes the roster, then Tebus most definitely could have if he had switched positions.

    • don’t forget the novelty of a white running back

      • Oh yea, the whole Peyton Hillis effect. I don’t think like that. I’m like Colbert. I don’t see color to the extent that I don’t even know what I am. I assume I’m black because I’m cool and well endowed. But I can only conjecture…

        • SC Dave

          Lol… i take it that “full of shit” is ethnically neutral?

  • MB30SD

    Here’s my starting line up:

    1. Briggsy – DJW – C.Jones

    2. Greene – Bostic – Senn(??)

    Rotational Blitzer: CD (yes, I don’t think CD is a 3-4 OLB, he’s much better for a 4-3 situational pass rusher only in my mind. He won’t be good being a real LB and not just a pass rusher (which he’s not good at either)

    BOOM!

    Also, I have a confession… I’ve become less and less nostalgic over the years. Devin, you’re just collecting a check, fuck you and buh bye. 54, not taking the gift $2M and then talk nonstop shit… asshole, and buh bye. Even my favorites like earl… gone… ok, good luck, buh bye.

    Maybe it’s the events of my life over the last 3 years that have jaded me, but I’m just not interested in looking back. Only what’s around me now and out the windshield. Everything in out the rear view is history. Learn from it, relive the good stuff, otherwise, buh bye.

    • I’m feeling the same. I actually wanted to get rid of Briggs too, but were hemorrhaging on D. He’s kinda like that mechanic you don’t really like, but he’s honest and cheap. Just gotta go with it (for now).

      It’s practically a whole new team in my view. I’m hoping Manelly, Peanut and a few others get a ring, but the rest, It’s been nice.

      • MB30SD

        Boom.

        Now that we’re on the same page (you say)… lie down on my nice long couch, get comfy and talk to me about your obsession with CD. since we’ve seen literally NOTHING from him but one good hit on vagers in 2 years. Talk to me goose, talk to me.

        • I just see what he WAS in college. A stud LB. He might be white, but he’s athletic. His numbers were very similar to Barr. CD had waaay more experience at LB/DE too. More production. I honestly think he would have been very good in a 3-4. Rumors were that the Pats and Pack and a few other teams were seriously considering him.

          I always thought we got him too high (I can still see the 3rd round projection from PFW in my head), but I can see what Emery did on tape.

          He NEVER looked like a DE to me and a lot of folks. In college he had a nose for the ball, and that is THE defining trait for a LB. Now, whether that transfers over to a 4-3 LB, not sure. But I do like his size, athleticism, effort and LB instinct. Bad news is, we basically retarded his progress trying to make him a DE.

          I still think he can be a starting MLB. But I could be wrong. He could just bust. He can’t shed blocks like he needs to, but Urlacher always struggled with that too, so it can work IF we trot out a dominant front 7.

          That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it.

          And actually, I’m Ice Man (that was actually one of my real life nick names. I know, we were awesome).

          • MB30SD

            oh god. Oh ok… iceman….. fuckface.

            Yeeeaaaaahhhhhh… I know plenty of boss college players (who played on a team in a division of glorified high school squads), who ended up being dogshit in the pros.

            He’s one of them. LIke I said, it would be amazing if emery’s first draft pick ever didn’t bust at 2 positions in 3 years, but you know… not betting my kids college fund on it . And in my estimation, on another team homeboy would be baling hay already.

          • I view Shea more like a 2nd-3rd rounder. It’s really not his fault he got over drafted by a 4-3 team that cluelessly tried making him a DE.

            I joked about Emery drafting the “Onyx Shea” this year (and I would have experience an aneurism if he had), but Demarcus Lawrence , 6’3 251 from Boise ST got drafted by…Marinelli in Dallas. And guess what they listed him at? At DE. Where did he get drafted? The Cowboys traded up to 2nd pick in the 2nd round (prob where Shea should have gone). Coincidence?

            http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-round/dt-by-round-input:2

          • MB30SD

            No, not coincidence at all! See, it was marinara all along!!

            Canada, my conspiracy theory strengthens!!!!

            Thank you for that $!

            …0h, and before you give him a pass, let’s see if he can even see the field at LB (other than just a blitzing situational DE-convert… which is exactly what I think he’ll end up being so that people can say he made it at LB and didn’t bust twice but in actuality it’s a bullshit title for the same position but now that he’s a LB and not a DE he won’t be expected to get a bunch of sacks so even if he has the exact same production he’ll be touted as a successful blitzing lb and not a shitty DE… which he isn’t… and which he is. (inhales strongly)

            See what I did there?

          • Yeah, I was thinking about it, and then, it hit me. Holy shit. That is practically a smoking gun. You and I thought that pick had the Lovie stank all over it, but Shea did have nice combine stats, so I could see either way.

            But after the Cowboys drafted Onyx Shea, MOVED UP to draft him, I think that left no question in my mind. Emery will never admit it because he doesn’t want to unload responsibility, but Lovie was given the keys to the car the first year for the most part, and he ran it off the road.

          • MB30SD

            exactly. bingo!

          • Actually, Lovie didn’t run it off the road. That would be too exciting for him. He just mildly pulled it off the road to a rest stop and gazed up at the clouds, somewhere over Nebraska.

          • MB30SD

            …while leaving the car in D and stepping out as it was moving. He lightly glided into his normal stride while the car slowly but steadily and progressively sped faster and faster towards a huge cliff.

            As he “admired the pretty clouds today”, the car took a 300 foot nosedive.

          • haha pretty much. Rex Ryan might be a blowhard, but if he’s going down, it will be in fantastic fashion. Something along these lines…

            http://youtu.be/A1sjPVcXBoI

          • MB30SD

            jesus

          • Wigga ghost riding a geo prism! FTW!

          • MB30SD

            please don’t ever post something that inane again. Man, humanity.

          • Irish Sweetness

            … and inexplicably exploded before it landed. A Scottish seagull had reported the whiff of semtex.

            Nothing to do with me.

          • Irish Sweetness

            That clown car, eh ?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Always thought CD was drafted to play Mike ….. but after seeing him with his top off …. I’m just disappointed that he cares so little about strength conditioning. Not a good sign.

          • That was discouraging. Than again, he can just be country strong. Not gonna win any mr. universe contests, but effective strength.

            Also, I don’t think I ever saw Lach with his shirt off, and don’t know if I ever wanted to either.

          • MB30SD

            he looked like a big block.

            Physique don’t mean jack when it comes to playing fb… that said, too bad CD looks AND plays like shit.

          • Irish Sweetness

            But you could see Lac was a beast with his shirt on, CD looks like ….. me.

            Shamus has no pectorals – I mean, of course he does – but they’re not developed.

        • SC Dave

          Sounds like bostic,except the latter was only preseason. Cd is better than bostic… take it to the bank

          • MB30SD

            We will dave. IU guarantee you CD is what we thought he was. Dogshit.

            Since I’m a gentleman I’ll let you choose your poison when you put your money where your mouth is sir.

            What is the wager and what is the thing we’re wagering on? Again, CD being brought in situationally to be a pass rushing LB doesn’t cut it, it’s basically the same thing he did the last two years, the only thing different is the success criteria… the numbers and output won’t change from that dude.

            Who wins a starting or most contributing spot on the LB squad? That what we’re betting on here?

        • Jokey

          That wasn’t even a good hit – he wrapped him up and a DB came over to finish off the job.

    • Trac

      Don’t forget what’s under the hood.

      • MB30SD

        uhhhh… huh?

        • Tucker? A big block?

        • Trac

          A mans gotta know his limitations. All time fave Eastwood line.

          • The Unforgiven?

          • Trac

            Google it. Hee hee. Magnum force.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Ah. MF. David Soul and a pair of tits.

          • tobijohn

            For god’s sake, it’s Dirty Harry. BTW, in the Trib interview with Reggie Herring, the new LB coach, said the Texans (who he was with last year) tried to trade for Shea…

          • MB30SD

            wish they had.

          • SC Dave

            Mine too… blows all the rest away

          • MB30SD

        • Trac

          Besides, a good driver looks in the rear view mirror evra 15-20 secs.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Aye, live in the past … die in the past …..

  • Trac

    Da Bears just signed a practice squad CB and RB. The CB is an interesting player.

    http://www.meangreensports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/marcus_trice_847388.html

    • I heard he was a S.

      • NewBearInTown

        Biggs called him a safety.

        • Irish Sweetness

          His oral cavity was crammed full of M&Ms, cornerback and safety can sound the same ….

          • MB30SD

            I read that as anal cavity. Hahaahahahahaha

          • CanadaBear

            Eek!

  • Bender McLugh
    • Bender McLugh

      Just saying I’m happy about drafting a punter

  • Bender McLugh

    Lynch + 20lbs of muscle might j just do well

    • Irish Sweetness

      It took Arnie Scwarzenschitzel a year to put on 24lbs of muscle in his year at the Tank Regiment … and I think that was without Dianobol.

      • MB30SD

        doubt it was without.

        If I was to do a roid, it would be winstrol. It’s the shit they give to horses. makes you big, lean, and fast. It’s what Ben johnson took for the olympics that year. It’s what my college roommate used. stuff is the shit… if you want to sell yourself to the devil and die 25 years too young.

        • Cormonster

          My experience working with roiders over about the last 27 years is that they are basically pussies with no endurance to put in a full day of physical labor, with a few exceptions, usually being guys who grew up on farms.
          I’m not kidding when I say I would rather have a bunch of 110-120 pound young females working with me to lay a couple semi-loads of sod than 200-240 pound beefcakes who are roiding. Those fuckers need a break every 15 minutes, but the young girls or skinny little guys, or even fat guys, almost always are more productive than the roiders. It’s damn near a universal fact according to what I’ve witnessed over the years.
          I’ve worked with a lot of kick ass guys who work out all the time and are ripped, but they are usually the wirey skinny guys who don’t juice. To be honest, for a part time summer job, I would always hire the local fat farm kid over the big guy who plays for the college football team.

          • CanadaBear

            My best friend 40 years ago was on the sauce and doing power lifting. Trust me, you wouldn’t have called him a pussy to his face. He was always trying to get me on the sauce. Uh, no thanks. We worked out together on his “easy” days. He couldn’t handle extreme heat and humidity so he would have fit your profile for landscaping work.

            I don’t question the Earl love (heck I’m one of them). What I question is the Knox hate. Mostly it was Irish but it never made any sense. He was a productive but flawed WR. What would you expect from a 5th rounder?.

          • gpldan waiting on camp

            Canadian roid users?

            Do you guys inject maple syrup into your veins?

            Fun Fact: Biggsy’s blood has the consistency of maple syrup.

          • CanadaBear

            See Ben Johnson! I was living in Iowa in those years. Maple syrup is its own food group in Quebec. My Father-in-law sends us a can or two every year. When I was in Iowa I thought Mrs. Butterworth’s was great stuff. After real maple syrup, not so much.

          • MB30SD

            I think it’s just that those dudes just train for bulk/muscles and not endurance. It’s really about how you train, not the roids you take. Know what I mean?

            But yes, I do agree that the wiry peeps are usually big endurance built

        • Irish Sweetness

          I’ll remember two things about that race :

          1. BJ’s eyes were yellow.
          2. The look on Carl Lewis’ face when he realized he hadn’t won.

  • Bender McLugh

    I am picturing Chicken Dinner as a cover LB, assigned to the TE on most plays. A third defender for crossing routes. Don’t tell me he’s not fast or athletic enough for that assignment. I just don’t know what defensive scheme has this type of role

    • NewBearInTown

      I’d say the opposite actually. He played DE last year; coverage is the LB duty he was least involved with until this season. They’ll probably have him cover this year on occasion, but I suspect he will be much more of a rush/contain linebacker than a spy for the TE.

      More likely, as others have said, we’ll see a lot of nickel packages where Shea is a “Leo,” lining up as a third linebacker but mainly focused on rushing as a fourth lineman.

      This nickel, which would probably be Fuller at first, would cover the tight end.

      • MB30SD

        this.

        • Bender McLugh

          why can’t he do both? I know you laugh but I’m super serial man

          • NewBearInTown

            He has to do both, he’s a linebacker. But you didn’t say that he’ll have snaps where he covers the TE (which would be true), you said he would be a “cover LB, assigned to the TE on most plays.” That’s not true. This team doesn’t have a standout cover LB. Briggs is good at everything, but he doesn’t earn his paycheck as a coverage guy either.

          • Bender McLugh

            okay, sorry for the phrasing. I still think CD can be good in coverage. We shall see.

    • MB30SD

      Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

  • Irish Sweetness

    He’s not making the RB roster at the expense of Michael Ford … he’s not making the QB roster ….. so ….isn’t he just an undrafted camp body ? Why are we talking about him? He doesn’t come close to making the roster.

    • bearsfantillend

      its the offseason with nothing else to talk about, or Ford sucks and won’t make the team.

      • EnderWiggin

        Ford did have a great preseason last year.

        • I don’t think either Wilson or Ford got nearly as many reps as I would have liked.
          Then again, Greene and Bostic performed well in the preseason too, and we all know how that went when they played the varsity.

        • bearsfantillend

          i just don’t understand the amount of love some posters have for Ford – he was an undrafted free agent last year that barely saw the field.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I think Ender was being sarcastic. Ford didn’t see the field much, but he did show glimpses of a certain running back I’m fond of. Just a couple of plays, but he showed moves, he showed there’s something in there. He’s definitely a good runner, whatever about the rest of the things he’d have to do.

            Listed at 216 now, 5’10. Nice.

  • Cormonster

    One thing I’ve never understood on this blog is the irrational love for Earl Bennett and the

    • MB30SD

      don’t keep us in suspense corm!!!

      • Cormonster

        Computer crashed. I guess I’ll retype it. Give me a few minutes. About 20 minutes of research down the tubes.

        • tobijohn

          I hate when that happens. If my post is more that one sentence, I always Control C every couple…

      • I thought it was just my computer. Or Gnomes.

      • Cormonster

        One thing I never understood on this blog is the irrational love for Earl Bennett and the irrational dislike or criticism of Johnny Knox among many of the posters over the years. Here’s my little breakdown of the two players.

        Earl Bennett was a 3rd round draft choice who didn’t really play as a rookie in 2008 because he couldn’t learn the play book. Earl basically “redshirted” his rookie season. After that, I can’t tell you all how many times I heard “all Earl Bennett does is catch 1st downs.” Let’s break this down. From 2009-2011 he had 73 first downs on 124 catches for 1,659 yards. That averages out to about 1.5 first downs per game, 2.5 catches per game, and 35 receiving yards per game.

        Johnny Knox was a 5th round draft choice who was forced into action right away due to injuries and terrible receivers. His first NFL game he was a late addition at Lambeau for Cutler’s first game as a Bear and caught about a 60 yard TD pass. I was there. By his second year, he was the de-facto #1 receiver due to no one else worthy on the roster. He was drafted as a project and situational deep threat, but was forced into an every down receiver, even though he wasn’t suited for the position.

        Now let’s look at Johnny Knox’s numbers from 2009-2011 compared to Earl Bennett. During that time frame Johnny had 96 first downs on 135 catches for 2,214 yards. That averages out to 2 first downs per game, 2.8 catches per game, and 46 receiving yards per game.
        Johnny Knox career stats in 3 seasons as a 5th rounder:
        2,214 yards, 135 catches, 96 1st downs, 747 yards per year, 12 TD

        Earl Bennett career stats in 6 seasons as a 3rd rounder:
        2,277 yards, 185 catches, 106 1st downs, 380 yards per year, 12 TD

        • I liked Knox. Think he would have fit in perfectly as a WR3 speed guy with Marshall/Jeffery. He was that missing burner everybody pined for last year.

          My problem with him, though, was that he had some problems with routes that led to a number of Cutler INTs. Partly because they were trying to force him in as a #1 WR, which he wasn’t.

          • Cormonster

            I put all that on Martz and his “precision” timing routes. Teams keyed on Knox because the Bears had no one else other than Forte and Olsen. Knox was no Tory Holt or Isaac Bruce, but Martz tried to play him in that role.
            Dom Capers must have loved this scenario. Double Knox over the top and bump him at the line, put your worst secondary guy on Hester, bumping him at the line or diverting him off his route, and have Woodson cover Olsen or play the run or blitz. Forte was the only guy who had success against their defense at the time.
            Bringing up a suppressed memory. I haven’t got myself to re-watch the NFC Championship game against GB, but I was there in the north end zone. Hanie threw a pass out to Forte in the left flat, and it was clear sailing to the end zone from somewhere around the 40 with less than 2 minutes left. If Forte wouldn’t have scored, it would have been damn close. But for some reason Lovie called a TO just before the play started. I seen it, it was right in front of me. It would have been a tie game. Instead I think Hanie threw a pick right after the TO to end the game.

          • MB30SD

            Wait, he was the dude who got bent in half right? Like, right shoulder blade to left ass cheek??

            How’s this corm… i couldn’t give a smaller fuck about either of them now if i was a midget.

            Mmmbbbeeaarrs!

          • Cormonster

            Are you turning over a new leaf? I’ll never mention Johnny Knox again if you never mention Jerry Angelo again. Deal?

          • tobijohn

            High stakes poker….

          • MB30SD

            I was fucking around with knox not you.

            And when I said I couldn’t give a fuck, I meant I don’t care about any of them. Angelo and lovie fucked us for 10 years and had the reigns.

            That said, I will try to not look in the rearview… but no promises

          • Irish Sweetness

            I hated Knox – or rather the coaches for trying to pretend he was good. He got my QB in an awful lot of trouble, but it was hard to tell who was fluffing their routes more – him or Hester. I suppose it was both.

            So many things were screwy. Play calling. Bad o-line. No receivers. Euch.

  • Irish Sweetness

    So I’m on the last thread making sure I win all the arguments and to see if any Honey Bears did a drive-by to catch my vapor trail ….. and I saw the rear shot of Jenny McCarthy on the beach. The wheel of time, she turns …..

    • gpldan waiting on camp

      Wonder Bread with a light spread of cottage cheese. Ummsies.

      Fun Fact: Biggsy’s elbows also look like that.

      • MB30SD

        And it’s what he has as a ‘lite’ snack 9 times daily.

  • gpldan waiting on camp

    Hey, only 18 people shot and killed this weekend in Chicago. Slow weekend.

    http://images.dailykos.com/images/84272/lightbox/TMW2014-05-21color.png

    • IBNO

      Cold and rainy.

  • gpldan waiting on camp

    Irish –

    Art Schliester and Bernie Kosar are hitting the road as act.

  • gpldan waiting on camp

    Vereen rooming with Fuller at camp, shows some studly-ness

    http://www.chicagofootball.com/2014/05/18/vereen-pleased-with-minicamp-progress/aicwzzz/

    It’s just like when LT roomed with Harry Carson.

    • they put Long and Mills together last year. I’d say that worked out ok.
      Also guessing that Ferguson and Sutton will be roomies.

    • It’s JUST like that.

  • gpldan waiting on camp

    Bears waived buttheads kid today. Sorry buttheads kid, even Payton’s kid found out the Bears have no room for nepotism.

  • gpldan waiting on camp

    I would like to revisit all the blog users who told me how stupid I was last year when I suggested Chicken Dinner should consider being a mike. You know who you are.

    • MB30SD

      oh, are we already handing out BJs for the move. Sweet, can I get one? No… oh, because he hasn’t even played a single fucking down at the position he’s never played? He’s a busted DE that might have some success as a situational blitzing OLB (basically the exact same position, but without any of the expectations. Awesome!)

      Stop this. I love you and you’re better than this.

      • gpldan waiting on camp

        I have visions of Johnny dressed as a Luftwaffe commander. He walks up to me, takes off his leather gloves and slaps me across the face with them.

        “Hooooooogan, it iz backz to zee stockcade for you”

        (Inserts his monocle, walks off with like the full leather coat but his arms aren’t in it., it’s just draped over his shoulders like the Nazis used to do.)

        • MB30SD

          yeah, that’s about what he rolled out with when I was there.

          They did love doing that. Fucking nazis.

          • gpldan waiting on camp

          • MB30SD

  • NewBearInTown

    Marshall – 3 years, 30 million. Done.

    • NewBearInTown

      Saw it on Twitter. He signed his contract on “The View” and used the publicity to announce a $1 million donation to the mental health community. Probably means $1M to his foundation.

      I would love to see the NFL get on board with this. As much as I appreciate Breast Cancer as a cause worth supporting, they would do a lot more good focusing on mental health issues in their core market. Jeff pointed this out himself in the Marshall article he wrote a while back.

      • Mental health should replace breast cancer awareness this year. But perhaps the NFL has found that the mentally ill don’t buy merchandise.

        • NewBearInTown

          You’d be surprised. Lot’s of wealthy people in this country suffering – look at the stats on Xanax use.

          Plus those with OCD could be a very lucrative market *wink wink

          • MB30SD

            hahahahaha

  • Marshall got a new deal Stein working overtime, not in the Bermudas just yet.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/19/brandon-marshall-announces-new-contract-with-bears/

    • bearsfantillend

      probably got the deal done at the airport bar waiting on his flight to the Bermudas.

      • “You want a 7 year, $60M deal, Brandon? Listen, I have $30M cold cash in those suitcases. Let’s say, 3 years and call it a day. I have an Equity Investment Meeting in Bermuda to lecture at [sips his martini]… and Burmuda hookers to bang.”

        Done and done.

        • bearsfantillend

          sounds about right to me.

          • I wonder how many suitcases it would take to fit $30M? GP, other financial wizards?

          • NewBearInTown

            $30M is 300,000 $100 bills. That’s 3000 stacks of 100 bills. Each stack would be around 1/2 an inch thick. So if we’re going with a 12 inch thick suitcase, that’s 125 stacks. That’s five rows of 25, which is too big for one suitcase. But you could probably make it work with two big suitcases. Three for sure.

          • If I ever become a druglord, you’ll be my money-in-suitcase expert. For Hanukkah, I’ll give you a gold suitcase, or seven little platinum ones…

          • gpldan waiting on camp

            on the seventh day of Hanukkah, my true love gave to me…. seven suitcases of cash, six bags of coke, five golden cock rings!, four brazillian hitmen, three french hookers, two bottles of Calvin Klein’s escape and a glock in a holster!

            Whoops, sorry. Wrong religion.

          • You’re thinking of Funukkah. A religion founded by Charlie Sheen.

          • MB30SD

            save the cock ring.

          • MB30SD

            fuuuuuck. Some day.

          • CanadaBear

            Working in a casino years ago it’s surprising how small a stack $1 mil. The crap you see in movies is hooey (or else 10’s and 20’s).

          • gpldan waiting on camp

            A Canadian casino bouncer juiced on maple syrup.

            I am now afraid of you.

          • CanadaBear

            Good one! I’m 5’2″ and built like a fire hydrant. I’m one of the least imposing people you’re likely to meet. I have to tell you, a bunch of my friends are your size. Always good for some laughs (not to mention the Mutt and Jeff comments).

    • NewBearInTown

      Where you been man? That’s old news.

  • That Marshall deal is a steal. He’s making more than $3M/yr less than guys like Andre Johnson, Megatron, and Fitz, and less than guys like Bowe, Mike Wallace, and Percy Harvin.

    • NewBearInTown

      That’s probably one big reason they extended him now instead of waiting till next year. He’s got security, even though he’s over 30.

    • IBNO

      I think Marshall is doing some very good thinking and getting very good advice. Being a “team player” in Chicago is worth giving Bears some wiggle room on salary–he’ll make it up in increased media exposure, meaning endorsements now and post-football career.

      Seriously, I don’t know why good teams & teams in good markets don’t aggressively sell the non-gridiron & post-gridiron earnings potential to free agents. I’d rather play in, say, Denver for a discount than play in, say Jacksonville for a premium.

      • IBNO

        In other words, why the hell would anyone want to play in Buffalo or Jacksonville?

        • Because they get drafted by them…or GREED.
          You can’t honestly join them and claim you’re pursuing a championship.

        • gpldan waiting on camp

          Because it’s worth an extra 1 Million dollars in THAT year to them, and they will never, ever, see that much money in a single year again, even if they get the mother of all jobs sitting at the ESPN desk on Monday night.

      • I never doubted Bmarsh would be reasonable. I think these mega 6 years deals might be a thing of the past, especially for players over 30 (even if big-bodied WRs tend to age well).

        In 4 years from now, if the Cutler-Bmarsh experiment fizzles, the cap hit won’t bog down the team. I don’t understand why most teams don’t approach it like the Bears.

        I also think the players are finally realizing that they’ll never make it to the end of the 6-7 year deal (unless they’re a franchise QB). Teams will always ask you to restructure or cut you. Even AP can be a causality, and he might be the best HB since Sanders and Walter.

        • gpldan waiting on camp

          Butch,

          You are arguing the wrong way. Everybody here wants to say how SMART B Marsh is for not asking for Megatron money or Julius Jones money, but in fact it is what they SHOULD do if they are acting in a capitalist mindset. Maximize the value o one’s labor NOW, not tomorrow, because the teams favor the TEAMS, not the players. And even AP might get cut this year, over money.

          • But most of those mega-contracts end up getting restructured 3 years down the line anyways. I mean, I don’t know how many times Suh has already been restructured.

            But we re-structured Pepp, and then we cut him this year. But the mathematicians/money/contract experts would have to clue me in on this.

            Would Peppers have made more money originally signing a 3 year deal, then testing himself out in the market again, or did he make more money signing the longer deal?

            In many ways, it goes down to betting on yourself. If you think you can be productive in a 3 year contract, then when you hit FA, you’ll still be a valued commodity. the Joe Flacco gambit.

            If however you get injured or your production declines, then cashing in on the long term might have been the best move.

            It’s a little hard to quantify because some teams do throw away cash on players.

            Marshall probably could have received a $50M 5 year contract on say, the Jags.

            But to MBs point, how much mula could Bmarsh generate in JAX post-career?
            Then again, could Bmarsh make up that extra $20M over his post-career lifetime in CHI for being a legend?

            Those are tricky calculations. I doubt either Bmarsh or his agent calculated that. The agents could give a shit if their clients are dumped or asked to take a pay cut. They just want the biggest contract for their percentage.

          • gpldan waiting on camp

            Don’t forget that for some players, they get Johnny Knox’ed.

            Everybody knew that when Knox nearly broke his back and died out there, his football days were done. He was allowed to say he was re-habbing to come back and play – maybe he even believed it – and the Bears did right by him and held his contract for one more year and let him sit the whole season on the sideline in street clothes and use up a IR spot full well knowing he would never play again. In that case, that amounted to a workman’s comp claim.

            I give the Bears a modicum of credit for doing the right thing on Knox.

            And to your question, BMarsh has another factor in mind we haven’t yet stated:

            Because he is his QB’s bestest friend in the whole wide world, he will get catches because he will get balls thrown to him. And when he and his agent sit down with Cliff, you can darn well bet that finding market value is about receptions and yards instead of intangibles like YAC.

            If he went to play with that kid from UCF that Ron Jeremy drafted, he may get very few passes and hung out to dry over the middle.

            So he has to factor in the fact that Cutler won’t get him killed out there, which has a value that is very difficult to quantify.

          • NewBearInTown

            Assuming that a player is at the peak of his performance (like Suh), that player is always better off in a contract year. QB contracts are the best example – every year that goes by right now, the average first tier QB salary goes up by another $1M. And first tier means Flacco and Romo just as much as it means Brady and Rogers.

            But teams obviously pay a premium to get control over the player for more years, because they know that extensions are more expensive as the years go by (with the exception of RB and LB recently).

            So if you’re a stud at your position, you want the shortest contract possible that pays long term money.

            Put another way, if you have a crystal ball and know that you will not be injured and will be at least as valuable next year as this year, you should not have a problem with the franchise tag.

        • bearsfantillend

          Bmarsh stated earlier this year he loved Chicago and didn’t need huge money to stay there. How often do we hear players saying the would take less or give a hometown discount and they never follow through with it? I applaud him for not just saying the words fans want to hear, but actually following through with it. He’s is happy with his life, he is happy with Chicago, he is finally happy with his mental health. Money does not equal happiness, unfortunately a lot of people don’t understand that statement.

      • MB30SD

        Once again this. It’s just good bidniz. Ingratiate yourself in Chitown and you can turn out garbage and people will still buy it.

        I’m a huge fan of this and if I was an agent this would be one of my topline points for my clients. Besides, $30 fucking mill on top of what he already has… at some point it just becomes monopoly money and there are more important things in life than throwing another doubloon on the already roof-high pile. Like being some where you love with a QB you love and a program you’re running… basically, being a fucking hero for years to come is more important than a couple more mill.

      • gpldan waiting on camp

        I think Marshall is doing some very good thinking and getting very good advice. Being a “team player” in Chicago is worth giving Bears some wiggle room on salary–he’ll make it up in increased media exposure, meaning endorsements now and post-football career.

        I’m sorry but I hate this shit. Because it’s bullshit.

        If you want to thank Marshall for taking less than he possibly could, because he wants to be on a winner or where he feels people care about him – then by all means, do that.

        But for God’s sake, learn the idea of present value of future cash flows. To make up $3 MILLION dollars in endorsements, what kind of pay do you think B Marshall will get? He’s not getting Manning’s Papa John’s deal, THAT may be worth $3M but that’s because Elway OWNS a bunch of Papa Johns stores (shit pizza by the way).

        He could be the official spokesperson of Lou Malnatti’s and come nothing close to the $3M he would make if he maximized his earning potential RIGHT NOW.

        So – PLEASE – stop saying it’s good business. It’s not. It’s good FOR YOU, as a fan, but it is in no way in the best interest of a player – ever – to give a hometown discount financially because endorsements are not what you think they are.

        • MB30SD

          wow, you just crushed my dreams of who he is. thanks a lot GP. Man, you are playing the role of col. klink today.

          • gpldan waiting on camp

            Now that Sactown has been cowed, I’m holding up the left side of the spectrum all by lonesome over here against the wingers. Forgive me if I get feisty.

          • MB30SD

            I’m a left leaner on some social issues… some financial too. I swing both ways depending on the subject. Just like shady in real life.

          • Swing both ways…yes…quite.

          • MB30SD

            mmmmm… indeed.

          • Actually, I pretty much agree with most of your socio-political-eco posts, but I’m not as acidic as you when it comes to religion. And I like cars, but you like them almost more than MB likes breasts…almost.

          • MB30SD

            almost

          • I prefer classic cars and real breasts…’Merica!

          • MB30SD

            I prefer real cars and fake breasts.

          • gpldan waiting on camp

            I prefer real cars and fake breasts.

            Hello, my name is GP and I’m running for Blog Asshole, and I endorse this message.

          • TheBigCheesy

            what happened to SacTown? I mean, I know that he was kind of an idiot, but that had never stopped him before…

          • Sactowns#1

            I was cowed at some point? I had no idea. I guess that’s better than being badgered, or dogged but I’d much rather be lionized. I’ve learned that arguing with wingers and baggers online is akin to old man shouting at cloud.
            Its been shown time and time again that neo cons hung their hats on a peg of social engineering fastened to a wall of artifice. Trickledown economics never did trickle down and the big black/gay/abortion monster never came out from under the bed. So I let them prattle on in their senility and pat them on their collective heads instead of engaging.

          • TheBigCheesy

            “Its been shown time and time again that neo cons hung their hats on a peg of social engineering fastened to a wall of artifice.”

            LOLWUT

        • Big Mike

          the reasons you are wrong
          – economic value of exposure in media market #3 vs media market #47
          – 10x GDP of Chicago Metro area vs Jacksonville 585.9B vs $67B
          – Exposure to National Media 6 prime time games vs 1 (2014)
          Taking advantage of this requires a well executed plan, but recovering $5-10 million of nfl career, earnings over a lifetime of earning after football, based on the difference in the media platform, relationships and brand value, is a good bet.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          There isn’t just 1 endorsement though, he could do a ton of ads, he could open his own restaurant, car dealership, etc. that would all have value because he is Brandon Marshall-Chicago Bears Legend. You are right that it doesn’t serve his best overall financial interest to take less money, but the difference between the $ given up in the next 3 years (even after factoring in PV) and endorsement/business opportunities that he will have is not material enough for him to bat an eyelash at. Plus there is value (even if not monetarily) to have the bigger platform available to him for his mental health awareness aspirations.

          • gpldan waiting on camp

            If there’s an argument to make – you made it:

            He could potentially get favorable loans for a business, were he to start one, here in Chicago if he were a legend vs. a merc going from town to town.

            Thurman Thomas did this in Buffalo and Gayle Sayers parlayed his legend status into running a IT firm in Chicago, Sayers IT.

            But it’s based on the ability/smarts to become a CEO.

            For many players, the best they can hope for is Empire Carpets and a Ford dealership. It’s not a good bet. Being a greeter at a fight at the casino down in Gary does NOT pay $45,670/hr. as far as I know.

        • TheBigCheesy
      • Big Mike

        85 Bears still living off that season…

    • Frank Schoenburg

      Good point. Megatron probably deserves about $3M more, Fitz and Johnson the same. Less than Bowe, Wallace, and Harvin. Wow.

  • NewBearInTown

    After the Marshall deal, the Bears are at $115 million for their 2015 cap number. That includes $12.5M to Jared Allen if he’s on the roster. Briggs, Garza, Tillman and Conte are not under contract for 2015.

    2014 cap is $133 million. Assuming minimal cap growth, that gives the Bears $20 Million to work with next year when they will need to pay Jeffery and somewhere between 3-5 non-minimum free agents on defense.

    • I imagine Jeffery will sign for a longer/bigger deal than Marshall too.
      Hopefully, Jeffery won’t ask for Julio Jones/Greene money.

      • MB30SD

        he needs to have an even better year this year than last to ask for that.

        • Hopefully, we won’t have to throw it as much because our D prevents 1,000 yards a game.

          • MB30SD

            dis

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        I would imagine Jeffery takes a cue from BMarsh and takes less than full market value, maybe $12MM/yr. assuming he repeats last years performance.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Jeffery has no leverage. He has 2 more years of contract with the Bears + the franchise tag. So the Bears can have Jeffery for 3 years at 15 mil. OR 4 YEARS AT 30 MIL IF THEY FRANCHISE HIM 2 TIMES. So based on that my bet goes on Jeffery at 10 mil a year for a 6 year deal.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            You can’t really count this year, no way he is rushing to do an extension this year. It’s really semantics, like data was saying up top if he signs an extension after this season for 5/$60MM, the way the #’s fall will make it look like 6/$62MM. The reality though is that we are both trying to say the same thing because technically a 5/$60MM extension is an AAV of $12MM (because he will play 2014 and ’15 under his rookie deal regardless–unless they tear that up as part of the new deal–so the new deal really begins in 2016) but factoring all the money paid in a 6 year window will make his AAV look like $10MM. Further complicating the matter is the amount of guaranteed $ and the timing and structure of bonuses. I just hope when it’s all said and done he doesn’t try to break the bank regardless of the semantics.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            you’re right. You can’t count this year. So it’s $3MM +$12MM (franchise 1) + $15MM (franchise 2) = $30MM for the next 3 years. That’s 10MM a year. That’s what he’ll get with nice guaranteed money upfront. And it cpuld be a 4 year extension so he’ll become FA before 30. The point is that Emery has no problem paying Jeffery and Jeffery doesn’t seem like the one that makes much fuss about it. It’s going to be win-win and I don’t think the Bears will ‘break the bank’ for it. There is no need for alarming articles about this stuff. It’s all cool.

      • Big Mike

        Bears can do a pretty long term deal with Jeffery, based on how young he is. That reduces the cap hit, by spreading the signing bonus out. If Allen is healthy, potential to restructure and add years to reduce cap hit is there. With a cap of $140MM Bears have $27million to work with, seems like a huge number after the cap jail they’ve been in.

        • I doubt they do anything with Allen’s hit. Don’t want to get a Peppers-like thing where he suddenly drops off and they need to eat a bunch of money to cut him.
          He has no dead money after next year. They back-loaded it to 2015 because they had to (and can afford it next year). He’ll play 2 years and then likely be cut, maybe stick in 2016 if he’s still playing at a high level.
          They’re still looking great for 2015 cap-wise. Throw a couple million at de la Puente and your offense is set (returns top 2 QB, top 2 RB, top 3 WR, TE, starting OL with several key backups). On D you have Conte (who may or may not be starting), Paea, Collins, Idonije, Briggs, Williams, Hayden, and Tillman as FA. Of those, none will be back for big $$. Maybe a few back for value, otherwise fill in depth as needed. Still return top 3 DEs, 3 DTs, Fuller/Frey/Jennings at CB, 3 LBs, and Mundy/Vereen at S. Once you know how some of the young guys (DTs/LBs/Vereen/Fuller) are panning out, you plan accordingly.

          • Big Mike

            All good points. With Allen if he’s still strong in 2 years, can’t they add a year and spread his cap hit out?

          • they could, but then you’re guaranteeing him $$ until he’s 36… not smart IMO

      • what will keep Jeffery’s #s down is that an extension next offseason would factor in 2015 deal at less than $2M.
        So he could sign a 5 year, $60M extensions and that’s a 6 year, $62M deal after you factor in 2015.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Allen will get $11.5MM whether he’s on the roster or not. Cap is expected to be ~$140MM in 2015.

  • I imagine this is how Bmarsh is feeling. I know this is how I would feel after receiving a $30M contract.

  • MB30SD

    Oh, not excited about it yet? Ok, here you go.

    My good buddy has a friend who works at the 4-letter. He sent us these to get us pumped:

    – Big Event: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHrf5EBVlDs
    – Brazil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBpO21afASw
    – USA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pjliE37ENY&feature=share
    – Ian Darke (Social): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92dvjohiOgo
    – Global Issues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th7nbtKVkLY

    • MB30SD

      DATA! you going to being some footy game to the blog in a few weeks?

  • MB30SD
    • gpldan waiting on camp

      *Full Disclosure: Penis does not function

      That made me LOL.

    • $wearImNOTracist.

      Like the little $.

      You know the most fucked up part…he will still bang more hot chicks than most honest hardworking blue collar dudes.

      This thought depresses me…if only there were some place where it’s really hot that douches go to after they die.

      • MB30SD

        depressed… maybe you should follow brandon marshall on twitter or something. He’s a motherfucking inspiration maings.

        • I should. Bmarsh has that smile that lights up a room. Magic has that same smile. Bmarsh could become the Magic of Chitown if he continues doing his thing.

          • gpldan waiting on camp

            Jordan was not the Magic of Chitown. We thought he was, but he wasn’t.

          • I was going to write that Kobe has a scowl like Jordan. But Jordan was my one idol in my teens [say it ain’t so Mike!}

  • MB30SD
  • gpldan waiting on camp
    • MB30SD

      saw that one. GOD she’s hot. I MIGHT even consider having a relationship with that

    • Smart baby.

  • Thinking back on Marshall, it really is amazing how he transformed.

    I remember drafting him in one of our FF leagues in the 3rd-4rth round. How did he fall that far? Well, Marshall had the deadly combo of Chad Henne and Matt Moor at QB.

    And oh yeah, Bmarsh got shanked by his wife right before camp.

    He still somehow racked up about 1,200 yards and 6 TDs that season, but was still such a molatov coctail according to the Fins that they traded him away for two 3rds.

    He really could be an inspiration for lots of ppl who are down in the dumps, mentally ill, or not.

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD
  • gpldan waiting 4 Funukkah

    There’s an ass queen on the internet? So much knowledge to know…

    http://www.tmz.com/2014/04/06/george-iloka-jen-selter-caitlin-rice-butt-queen/?adid=tmzhero1

    • MB30SD

      damn. I’m not a butt guy, so that doesn’t get me fired up… especially cause her face is about a 6.5 and she’s got no boobs. Sigh.

      That said, that thing is pretty amazing from a physics standpoint. Impressive.

      • Doesn’t get you fired up? Are you a zombie?
        She has a face?

    • Thank you, sir. I needed that.

  • MB30SD
    • CanadaBear

      Oops! One year I did Ride the Rockies and they make a big deal at the finish line. Lots of family and friends cheering. Some guy in front of me raises both arms over his head as he crosses the line. Unfortunately he went down in a heap. Glad it wasn’t me!

      • MB30SD

        ouch. Yeah, I see guys doing that all the time. With my aero bars it makes it really unstable and wobbly so I never do it unless i have to (like buckling my helmet back up after getting rid of a bee, etc…) for *very* short stretches. You might look slick, but not worth possibility of a broken bone or cracked skull.

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD

    what’s all this fucking hubbub about colt lyera. Who in thee fuck is this dude and why is jeff so fixated.

    Want to see all the fucks I give about colt lyera?

    • bearsfantillend

      Evidently Colt Lyerla tweeted Sandy Hook was a government conspiracy and the parents of the victims were all liars.

      • MB30SD

        thanks maings. Well that sucks and the guy is obviously a fucking idiot… but in the end… know what… who fucking cares what some bag of hammers thinks about anything.

        AND he’s not on the bears so don’t give the fuck any airtime. amiright?

        • he’s a TE from Oregon who was kicked off the team last fall. Was arrested for cocaine 2 weeks later. Hugely talented but major off-field issues. Went undrafted and just signed w/ GB

          • MB30SD

            thanks. GB!?!? That’s not like them is it?

          • they need a TE bad, and if you ignore all the off-field stuff Lyerla was probably the 2nd best TE in this draft class. Obviously decided risk was worth the potential reward. Can’t blame them there.

          • MB30SD

            nope, just didn’t sound like thompson to take a very high risk guy.

          • Cocaine’s a helleva drug – Rick James, cocaine prophet
            Didn’t hurt LT though…can’t blame cocaine for banging underage groupies, can you?

          • MB30SD

    • TheBigCheesy

      Colt Lyerla sounds like a fucking idiot. I think everyone would be “good with my team not having Colt Lyerla”.

      Just like everyone would be fine with their team having an Anti-vaxxer as the face of the franchise. If you’re looking to your favorite sports teams for moral authority, well, then…..D’oh!

      The NFL is full of thugs. Darren Sharper, Lawrence Taylor, Rae Carruth… The list is endless. There’s really no need to pop off because some deranged college football player sent out a stupid tweet.

  • Shady
    • MB30SD

      shit… I just sent him a check for $250K to turn my ’88 fiero into a F50!

    • It’s like walking out of Payless with some Nikos, then going home and crazy gluing the Swish symbol on the shoes …so I’ve heard.

  • Troll quote of the day.

    “Colt Lyerla. Denounces socialism. Signs with a team collectively owned by public shareholders.”

    • SC Dave

      I presume because it shows no understanding of socialism?

  • bearsfantillend

    One thing i just realized Marshall is coming into this year without any off field issues and is healthy. Last year his offseason was spent on recovering and rehabbing after the hip surgery, the year before was the trade and some off field issues(punching a woman outside a night club) and still coming to terms with mental issues. Now Marshall can completely focus on getting ready for the season helping the younger players, which is great news since we have seen what he did last offseason with Jeffery. He has been a beast his entire career while dealing with countless off field issues, show us what you can do now that you are coming in with a clean slate, a bigger bank account and nothing to worry about. I got a really good feeling about this.

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