• Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

    First to say … FML.

    CRACKERRRRRR !!!!

    • MB30SD

      “…he averaged 13 sacks a year for the last ten years”

  • TheBigCheesy

    “More I thought about Allen to Bears, less sense it made to me. Bears defense is another off season from being great. Don’t need big $ vets.”

    “Emery did to the defensive line this March what he did to the offensive line last March/April. Completely rebuilt. What a joy this man is.”

    Jeff Hughes never met a Bears FO decision that he didn’t like….after they’ve made it, of course

    • DaBearsBlog

      I’m not sure I said I liked the move. But I like the aggressiveness of it.

      • TheBigCheesy

        I’m mostly giving you hard time. I’m the same way sometimes. I usually approve of most decisions ted Thompson makes just because I trust his judgement, even though they often come out of left field. Because after all, what the fuck do we as fans really know..

        • TheBigCheesy

          With that said, I’m not sure I’d be as unconditional with my support for the current Bears regime yet.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          We know more than Jerry Angelo, that’s for damn sure. Take the Pepsi-challenge with that cock-juggler any old day of the week. Damn! #@$%$!

    • gpldan

      Damn, I’m torn here. I actually may vote up a Cheesy comment.

      No, can’t do it.

    • Johnathan Wood

      they rebuilt the OL with two guys entering their prime (coming off of rookie deals) and 2 rookies.

      DL rebuild now involves somebody who’s 32 and 33 (Ratliff). Not quite as good long-term.

  • Big Mike

    Emery totally sandbagged. All the stories about this year being all about getting into a good cap situation for 2015, restructuring cutler for “in season flexibility”. Chuck Stein and Emery. Wizards.

  • Trac

    For some of you guys, you need to check out some of Barbs comments on last thread. I’m not sure if turning the other cheek is appropriate in this case.

    • johnnywad

      I think there’s a difference between turning the other cheek and simply ignoring. Just ignore it. I think we can all agree the world would be a dramatically different place were there actually no real history to our country. People that don’t like America can suck my dick. Especially people that bitch about America while blogging about the NFL, the very height of everything that is American, from some little piss ant meaningless country.

      • Trac

        Well said johnny.

      • CanadaBear

        Johnny people can disagree about things without resorting to insults. Not sure what Barbu wrote. I looked back through the last thread and didn’t see anything controversial. Gotta admit I didn’t look very hard.

        • johnnywad

          In summary: America sucks. I get so tired of this shit. Without America being awesome, there is no NFL, Chicago Bears, Jeff Hughes, DBB, CanadBear or Johnnywad. No platform on which to enjoy things like this blog. It seems nobody has any perspective anymore. Hell, without us, there likely is no Romania by now. It’d be like bitching to your old man when you were a kid about the quality of meal he put in front of you. Would you do that? I wouldn’t. I can’t stand it anymore. America doesn’t suck. America is not perfect. But it doesn’t suck. Tired.Of.The.Bullshit.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Stop the nonsense man. Or play along, but don’t act like a frigid virgin when somebody responds to your ‘visions’…. dad.

          • johnnywad

            Uhh. Yeah. OK. Great point. I’ll do that…..

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Stop it with the politics on a Chicago Bears blog. You can’t just start hating on religions, nations and people and expect a medal. Some guys -like myself- are going to wash the floor with you. Fucking extremists.

  • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

    Smacks of desperation. We just paid this fool his retirement money so he can go tiger hunting. I know he averaged 13 sacks a year for the last ten years, but when you’ve been in the league ten years … that’s not when you sign ’em Phil! So that’s why we didn’t move on TJ Ward … Phil was eyeing up the cracker.

    I’ll cheer the sacks and the pressure, but not the cock-juggler merc behind them. And ohhhh there’d better be sacks and pressure. There’d better be that.

    • Bender McLugh

      agreed, except for the desperation part. You make it sound like the Bears were NOT desperate for a top-end pass rusher. Weren’t they?

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        The desperation part comes in his age/value at this point in his career …. we definitely need a pass-rusher or two.

    • MB30SD

      “…he averaged 13 sacks a year for the last ten years”

      My irish brother… that is all you had to say. Literally.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        But that’s just it … over the last ten years i.e. his career, for all we know he may be done. Minny didn’t want him back.

        Now, would you rather we had Byrd/TJ Ward, plus drafting the shit out of the DL … or sign Cracker-boy? Huh? Mmmm?

        • MB30SD

          Cracker boy… for the money/value prop.

          He’s not done. He’s the opposite of a pep loafer type. He’s not done… he was just to expensive and they just flipped the house up there. New regime. We were about to let peanut walk.

    • bearsfantillend

      He is still cheaper than what the Pack gave Peppers and what Denver gave Ware.

  • Bender McLugh

    How does this signing change the need to draft a big-ass DT in the first?

  • MB30SD

    I just don’t get somea youz guyz.

    This is ALL you need to know about this signing… it is the start and the finish. It is the ONLY thing that is important…

    “…he averaged 13 sacks a year for the last ten years”

    • Bender McLugh

      agreed. Still don’t like him and never will. I will cheer for him to kill Rogers & China Doll and be happy when he does, but still don’t need to like the guy.

      • MB30SD

        that’s ok. semicolon…… close parenthesis.

  • Johnathan Wood

    Dunno that I like this. Hope they don’t end up footing the bill in 2 years like they did with Peppers.

    • MB30SD

      I trust you’ll get us the terms when available so that we can see just what we’re in for, and how much value this deal will provide.

      I still have to fall back on the whole…. what are 10+ sacks a year and infinitely more pressure every snap worth to us?

      I don’t give a rat’s little red asshole who he is off the field and how inane his sack dance is… I just would like to put in an order for 14 of them this year please.

      • Johnathan Wood

        my fear is it’s something backloaded that will make them swallow big $$ when they cut him in 2-3 years.

        If it’s different, then I’m fine.

        • MB30SD

          shady scooped you… check above.

    • DaMurph

      Peppers always had a reputation for taking plays off, Allen, a fourth round choice has always played hard and taking plays off has never been his thing.

  • MB30SD

    here’s a repost response to barb’s from last thread….

    So why desperation barb? a week ago we were all screaming that we need a proven 10+ sack brand name at end to get us the pressure we’ve been desperately missing (even pep wasn’t that guy)… and allen is EXACTLY that. And he comes with a 10 year 13 sack average pedigree to prove it (not one year wonder… a TEN (10) fucking year average for chris’s sake!!). Even if this is his fall off ‘getting old’ year and he only gets us 9-10 sacks, is that not a godsend over last year?!

    We’ve got our new D line almost sorted completely out with some young guys who can step up (collins, young, houston), some above average vet stability (izzy, paea), and a brand name 13 sacks a year badass (don’t know the deal terms, but can’t be a long contract)… and now was can go Dix/Pryor/Gilbert at #14 and then trade up in rd 2 for a tuitt type monster at DT to fill the final gap.

    Is this not what we all dreamed about? Would you not have KILLED for that D last year?!?

    ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!?!?!?!?

    • Shady

      Statistics are like fat girls in bikinis, MB… Not sure where I’m going with this but I don’t care about past performance. Half of those sacks probably came against J’Marcus Webb or Frank Omiyale. What are you going to do for me now? Whatever it is, it better not include any of that calf roping hot dog bull sheite.

      • MB30SD

        WHO… FUCKING… CARES?!?!?!

        He can get naked and fuck a cheerleader at the 50 for all I care… as long as he does it at LEAST 9 times a year over the next 2 years.

        New club, new contract, twice a year against his old team… infinite motor. He will dominate this year… fall off a bit next, but I bet you he regresses to his 10 yr average over the next 2.

        Say what you want about him, but he’s NOT the kind of man who now says fuck it I’ll slack. Sack dance or no, he’s just not that guy.

      • gpldan

        As somebody with a M.S. in Statistics, I would like to wholeheartedly endorse this statement:

        Statistics are like fat girls in bikinis

        In that they gross you out with the fact they should stay covered up.

      • DaMurph

        He can rope all he wants, I’m hoping multiple times a game!

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      I’m all over that, MB. I’m in that boat. Especially the third last line – cos if that happens, our DL goes interstellar, and we’re gonna party like it’s 1985. I haven’t ever been as pumped up about a draft as this one.

      • MB30SD

        awwwww, there ya go little guy! there it is… the positivity that’s been gone since 2011. well done lad.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Blame Angelo for that. I like this guy.

  • Shady

    NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reports the contract is for $32 million, although the contract voids to three years for $24 million. The deal includes $15.5 million in fully guaranteed money. There is a large guaranteed bonus due next March along with fully guaranteed salaries in the first two years. We’d expect this to turn into a two-year deal.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000337069/article/jared-allen-chicago-bears-strike-fouryear-contract?akmobile=ios&akcarrier=other

    • MB30SD

      if he give us 9 sacks a year and a lot more pressure…. SO… WORTH… IT.

      (and nice job on the deets… at the office no less. Not get back to work!)

      • gpldan

        But you still want Timmy Jernigan lining up next to him, even if Dix is on the board?

        Gilbert is there, you take him. but do you go Jernigan or Donald over Dix and Pryor now?

        • MB30SD

          GP, I think we go gilbert/dix/pryor @ 14 and trade up for tuitt in rd 2.

          That way we have our franchise Safety (or CB) locked up and then we get a monster DT in rd 2. As bard has said multiple times, history has proven that taking a DT early in rd 1 hasn’t proven to be the best move. If phil thinks he can get tuitt in 2 I think going DB in rd 1 is a good move and I will wholeheartedly endorse that draft strategy.

          • gpldan

            Of last year’s 1st round DTs, you can probably say that both Star Louwaylay and Sheldon Richardson disappointed. Sharriff Floyd did not, he shored up the center of that Vikes D.

            Year before, you have Dontari Poe, Fletcher Cox, Michael Brockers, Poe is excellent, the other two serviceable.

          • MB30SD

            so we have a 33% chance of picking the right guy… IF he’s still on the board. I don’t like those numbers. You take gilbert, he’s the top dog at CB, from a draft perspective that should be close to 100%, or you take pryor or dix. 50% each.

            It’s the better wager.

          • gpldan

            Trib still has Chicagoans voting Tackle

            http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-poll-jared-allen-bears-20140326,0,5461367,post.poll

            But Chicagoans are generally not good Bears fans. Sad but true fact, there.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Top CB plus a little trade up for Tuitt, selling the middle of our draft. Fuggit. With such a DL, our safeties don’t need to be very good. We were never going to fix everything this season anyway. Some position had to suffer, let it be safety – at least there’s some mediocre) competition.

          • MB30SD

            we won’t get gilbert irish… he’ll be gone. He’s the top CB by far, and probably one of the top draft picks in general.

            If he falls to us it will be a miracle and phil would be an idiot not to take him. I think he 100% would in that scenario.

            And yes, both dix and pryor should at least be solid safeties in the nfl for 3-10 years. Maybe not an ed reid or ronny lott, but def exponentially better than anything we’ve had in the last 10 years.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Safety is no doubt a bigger concern – we have two CBs of note, none at Safety. I think if we trade down a bit, we can get the top SS and Tuitt. Draft the FS next year, what say ye?

          • MB30SD

            we can get the top SS in the second. That’s Jimmie Ward.

            Problem is, we already spent money on our new starting SS, mundy (by the 3-4 articles I’ve read). So we still have chris fucking conte at FS. That’s the hole now.

            And while Mundy isn’t supposed to be the long-term solution at SS, it should be handled next year at least.

            For my money, we take a shot at Dix to be our franchise FS if he’s there, then hope phil hits on a diamond in the 4th (my man crush Kam Chancellor was a 5th rounder)

          • Johnathan Wood

            Star did not disappoint at all. Carolina’s D exploded thanks to having him in the middle.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            If we did grab Tuitt somehow, he’s technically a DT – but we could play him anywhere. Are these safeties worth a #14 though? The top CB probably is. Hit the FS in round 1 next year. Although we’ll be picking 32nd .. .ahem.

      • DaMurph

        He’s had double digit sacks every year but his first and third year. He’s only 31 and is very durable. A great pickup in my eyes.

    • Johnathan Wood

      I’m ok with this deal if they can get out after 2 years without any dead $$.

      • gpldan

        And he produces.

  • CanadaBear

    Can’t stand Allen and his calf-roping BS. Love the fact we have a true pass rushing threat to pair up with the new additions. Definitely adds the extra juice we needed at DE. Hopefully we can get a stud DT and FS in the draft. Allen’s hot dogging really sucks wang but I don’t remember him ever dogging it (unlike our previous DE who shall remain nameless). It sounds like $8 mil/year for 2-3 years. PE, I’m almost all in on you. If you get the stud DT and FS in the draft, I’m pushing all the chips to the middle of the table.

    • MB30SD

      BOOM!!!

      LOVE this post canada! Agree with everything… Gilbert/dix/pryor @ 14, trade up for tuitt in rd 2. done and done! everything else is gravy.

      • CanadaBear

        I’m not all in yet but I keep looking at the stack on the table. I still need convincing he can draft D. He does all the other stuff well.

        • MB30SD

          agree. i have… wait for it… faith.

    • DaMurph

      I never mind a little celebration and showmanship. I hope he’s roping multiple times every game. A man that gives us double digit sacks, I’m excited!

      • CanadaBear

        Oh, me too. I thought the makeover at DE was OK but not great. This takes it to the next level. We really needed a vocal guy who brings it on D. $8 mil/yr for Allen vs $7.5 mil/yr for Pep … Totally OK with that switch. Pep took too many games/plays off last year.

  • Trac

    Draft Moseley and almost any defensive backfield works for us now. Good solid move Phil, I am now officially a believer.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      I keep forgetting about about MLB – then all of a sudden our front 7 is pretty solid and has depth to boot, plus we’ve got 2 PBers at CB! That’s good enough to mix in with the best receiving duo and a top RB.

      As long as Cutty stays upright and on the field, but that will always be the key.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    I wouldn’t be shocked if he got something like $5-6MM this year and $8-9MM next. The thing that concerns me is that only 3.5 of his sacks came away from the metrodome. How is he going to do on our natural grass surface? Other than that we needed a guy that was going to strike fear into the hearts of opposing D coordinators. Like the move, just need a solid draft now and an extension for BMarsh pronto!

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Excellent point George. No carpet for the cracker.

  • Bears5003

    Wine ’em, dine ’em, 69 ’em!

  • Aaron T. Starks

    What an incredible signing. He doesn’t have to do anything more to the D-line which was an absolute train wreck 3 weeks ago. Outstanding.

    Now, he can concentrate on the secondary in the draft. I want him to draft the next Bears Legend at safety.

    • Bender McLugh

      I still think the D Line needs that big DT. Most on here think Tuitt and I’m good with that.

      Anyone know Emery’s history of trading up in the draft?

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Yeah… in his 2 drafts as a GM he didn’t take one DT in the draft. And now he’ll get a DT at 14. Oh..no.. he will not.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        If he likes the guy that much, don’t you take him at #14 ? I don’t think he’ll be there in the second. Some team in the bottom half of the first round is just going to look at the guy’s body and go Fukkit. Even trading down to #20 we could miss him.

        By the way, what’s the come-back deal on hernias?

  • DaMurph

    MB my man, would you happen to know how many sacks Allen averages?

  • bearsfantillend

    new thread

  • Trac

    I know have a pretty solid take on the direction Emery needs to take come draft. At this point, I would be in agreement for Phil trading up to get his guy and I’m hoping its Moseley. The D now has infinitely increased its chances of being solid/good with the addition of Allen. Yeah buddy.

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