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In New England, Against Belichick & Brady, Bears Have Chance to Make 2nd Half Meaningful

| October 21st, 2014

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I watched him do it. From behind the goal post, decked out in ski goggles and enough waterproof clothing to stay dry in Seattle, I watched Tom Brady dissect the Bears defense in a blizzard. He was not phased. He was not human. Moon Mullin described the early dismantling:

The Patriots went through the Chicago defense on drives of 85 and 87 yards, lasting 12 and 11 plays against a unit that had allowed drives of double-digit plays only five times in the last five games. Less than five minutes into the second quarter the Bears were in a 14-0 hole.

In fairness I only watched the first half. That was plenty for me.

Now that same quarterback, that same coach, stand between the Bears and the possibility of a successful 2014 campaign.   A win Sunday at Foxboro would send the Bears into their bye at 4-4, a respectable mark and a record to build upon over the second half of the season. A loss would compound early inconsistency and leave the Bears to answer a relentless stream of questions over the next two weeks. The most frequently asked question: how did this happen?

The 2014 season is now at a crossroads and the offense is driving the beat up jalopy. Marc Trestman is under media and fan fire after being embarrassed at home by Joe Philbin. The locker room is a disjointed group of disgruntled underachievers. Kyle Long blames and apologizes to fans in a 24-hour window. Brandon Marshall chews out the kicker (apparently). Jay Cutler cancels his radio appearance with Waddle & Silvy. They are lost. All of them. On a dark trail in the middle of the woods with no semblance of where the road might have been. Is there a map in the trunk? Anybody got GPS?

Every offensive snap will be scrutinized Sunday. Every drive will drastically sway the emotions of Chicago’s loyal and passionate fans. This Patriots defense is terrible. They let the Jets run over them to the tune of 218 yards a week ago when the top defensive item on Belichick’s agenda HAD TO BE stopping the run. (Nothing else can logically be discussed when the opposing quarterback is Geno Smith.) The Bears aren’t going to Seattle or Detroit or Baltimore. They are going to face a New England defense that should have no chance of stopping Matt Forte. They are going to face a New England secondary that has a shell-of-himself Darrelle Revis and a few other guys who should have no chance of covering the Bears receiving weapons. But we’ve been here before. No chance defenses have been given chances by the Bears offense all season.

Sunday is an emotional playoff game for the Chicago Bears. Every fan should treat it as such. Tom Brady and the Patriots offense are going to do their part. Will Jay Cutler and the Bears counter? If they don’t the 2014 season will be over before the second half begins.

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  • Shady

    “I watched him do it. From behind the goal post, decked out in ski goggles and enough waterproof clothing to stay dry in Seattle, I watched Tom Brady dissect the Bears defense in a blizzard.”

    And I was there next to you. Here it is:

    • I’ll never forget that game because my wife and I dropped off and picked up friends of ours who were Pats fans. I was so pissed after the game, and they were all excited. It was all I could do to not punch them in the face, or dump them out of our car back into the middle of the blizzard.

      Also: driving around Soldier Field in a blizzard with 60,000 drunk and angry Bears fans stumbling around was a freaking nightmare. Made worse by the fact that my orange Honda Fit looks like a taxi and I had no less than 30 people flip me off for “ignoring” their attempts to hail me down.

      • BillW

        “my orange Honda Fit looks like a taxi and I had no less than 30 people flip me off…”

        Can you at least laugh about that part now?

        You don’t see those orange WOLLEY cabs in Chicago anymore. I’ll have to look up why. I know Yellow Taxi objected to their name (yellow spelled backwards).

  • GPLDAN

    Listening to Wanny dissect the Bears is the ultimate in a loser looking at losers

    • CanadaBear

      It would be interesting to know how many listeners turn off the radio (TV) or change channels when Wanny is on. I know I would. Just seeing him pisses me off.

      • GPLDAN

        He refused to take any shots at the Bears disarray, repeating that “he doesn’t know what’s going on there”. He also wouldn’t be baited into any generalizations about how organizations should handle dissent, nor about Marshall ranting and then flying off today to New York to film Inside the NFL.

        So basically – he had nothing to say. Which begs the questions of why he was on.

        • CanadaBear

          That douche didn’t know what he was talking about when he was the HC. Why would anyone care what he has to say now? I’m baffled how Wanny got that job. I’ve literally never met a real Bears fan that liked, or more importantly, respected Wanny.

  • Trac

    Any given Sunday? This Sunday I will occasionally bowzce ze web for updates during the game. I will not suffer through a terrible Bufallo Wild Wings meal or the Chicago Style Pizza knockoff joint down the road again until this team makes itself relevant again. I just won’t do it.

  • Scott W.

    I will do what I always do. Watch every snap until the final play of the game.
    I think more than anything – even a win – I want my Bears to feel good about how they played after it’s over Sunday.
    Flukes happen, and even great teams lose when they put it all out there sometimes.
    I want them to come together and go all 4 Sunday. I want Jay Cutlet to walk off the field with his head held high. I want our patchwork defense to feel like they brought hell. I want our o-line to be exhausted but proud.
    And I want Jeff to write about how we made Mr. HOF Brady look like Rex Grossman on Monday.

    • Max

      Bad Rex

      • Scott W.

        Indeed.

  • Shady

    I will be attending this game, for better or worse, in Foxboro. Marshall v. Revis should be worth the price of admission alone.

    • GPLDAN

      Maybe you can party with Dan Hampton while you are there.

    • Scott W.

      Yep. That matchup will be fun, especially with Marshall all fired up.

  • CanadaBear

    We have no business winning this game which means we have a chance. I have zero expectations but will have my big butt parked in front of the TV for the duration of the game (unless we’re getting blown out. No awards for sitting through one of those games).

  • CanadaBear

    I just read some comments on an article posted on csnchicago.com. As usual, I was wondering why I was bothering with them when I came across a gem. Someone referred to Trestman as Nessman. Yep, that’s what I’m going with until The Beloved right the ship.

    • Scott W.

      How many do you think will catch the reference?

      • CanadaBear

        Anyone over the age of 40 should. If not, that’s OK. Made me laugh like hell. Seems like the perfect nickname until we start playing better (or he gets fired. Whichever comes first).

        • Scott W.

          It is perfect. I’m surprised no one around here in hyper-wit land hadn’t already thought of it.

          • GPLDAN

            I thought Turkeys could fly.

        • Sactowns#1

          Or anyone who grew up without cable. I’m well below 40 but I was forced to watch old shows in syndication on UHF.

          • CanadaBear

            Yeah, with all the old shows on TV somewhere you’d think most people would get it. If not, their loss. Not the fact they don’t get the joke. The fact they never saw WKRP. Really funny show. Not to mention Bailey Quarters. MEOW!

        • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

          I’m only 39 so I think I need some help with this one. I googled that it was from WKRP in cincinnati, but I’m not sure how the character relates to our Coach. Been a long long time since I’ve watched that show.

          • GPLDAN

          • CanadaBear

            He was a fuss budget, milquetoast, clueless, totally out to lunch white guy. Hope that helps.

  • Scott W.

    Dawes – From A Window Seat – Lyric Video – NEW SI…: http://youtu.be/3bxwEscWZEI

    If you haven’t already heard it, enjoy. Just a kick back tune for y’all.

    • Sactowns#1

      It’s like Dire Straits but even whiter, if thats possible.

      • LOL…we have to take a blog poll: Band whiter than Dire Straits?

        I nominate Rush.

        • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

          Color me cracker cause I love me some Dire Straits!

        • BillW

          Lawrence Welk’s Orchestra (though he did – no lie – bring on a tap dancing black guy for “diversity”.

          • Sactowns#1

            Oh dear lord dont make me relive my youth, sitting on the living room floor of my grandparents house while they watched Lawrence Welk just praying for he-haw to finally come on.

          • CanadaBear

            I know it dates me terribly and says a lot about me but I liked Jo Anne Castle when she’d play some boogie-woogie or ragtime. Also, Myron Floren was unbelievably great on accordion. Otherwise, zzzzzzzzz.

            Here’s Dr John singing about it being hard to be so white and so funky with a nod to his parents watching Lawrence Welk.

        • CanadaBear

          REO Speedwagon, Styx, almost every Country Band

          • Sactowns#1

            Ooh REO Speedwagon is a good one but the Hiinfidelity LP actually had some soul. And country is actually mostly a mix of blues and Irish folk tunes. That and all the new country is country/rap (which is TERRIBLE) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr-r3JNctcc

        • Sactowns#1


          huey Lewis and the news? No. They’re too black sounding for me.

    • Sactowns#1

      I’ll give you the gift of this great music (FF to 26 min) She’s amazing and any beautiful black woman that covers Jim Reeves deserves to have my babies. (You see it’s white but still not at white as Dire Straits)

      • Scott W.

        No link? Interested to see what you’ve got.

        • Sactowns#1

          http://video.pbs.org/video/2365342637/

          This one sounds much better

          • Scott W.

            She’s great Sac. Love the sound. Zipped out the link to a few folks after I listened in. Thanks for that one. I’m a fan.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    I would highly doubt anyone on the Patriots are worried about the Bears, including Brady and Belichick. That’s good…cause that’s the absolute perfect time to smash them in the mouth.

    I want to see Brady cry and that stupid look of disgust on Belichick’s face.

    Fuck them…BEAR DOWN.

  • Peanut FTW

    I am feeling in the mood for a limerick, so..

    At first, we all loved Coach Trestman
    He made our O look the best man
    Now the league knows his calls
    And the D has no balls
    So we will call him Coach Nessman

  • AlbertInTucson

    So DISH is in a pissing contest with TURNER. No CNN? No problem. No TCM? Unacceptable. The clock is ticking at my house. I am not on a contract. I can switch providers in a heartbeat.

    • Sactowns#1

      TCM? Turner classic movies? I havent had cable or DTv in a few years. You can get just about everything you want online. Hook a loptop up to the TV and youre good to go.

  • AlbertInTucson

    I say it is way to soon to be calling for Trestman’s job.

    • CanadaBear

      I’m not beating the drum for his dismissal but if he can’t right the ship … I saw a few troubling things last year and they have continued this year. Plus more alarm bells are ringing.

    • Peanut FTW

      I agree, when I’m in a rational frame of mind. When I’m in the meatball fan frame of mind however, I think about how he was brought in here because of his offensive genius, because of his plan for Jay and after a great honeymoon the wheels are starting to come off the bus in those two areas. We expected the D to struggle and even some of the ST issues we have. But, we never expected under Trestman to struggle to score 20 points. If we were losing 34 to 30 in shootouts because we couldn’t hold teams on D, no one would mention Trestman and we could focus our ire on Tucker but that isn’t the case.

      • CanadaBear

        Not to mention the vast majority of the salcap has been spent on O.

        • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

          Canada, it had to be because it was neglected for 8yrs straight. Unfortunately the D imploded a year or two earlier than they expected.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            we had Thomas Jones and Angelo blew the 4th pick of the 2005 draft on a damned running back. not a franchise QB, not a franchise LT, a franchise WR, a franchise DE……a running back. That pick all by itself sums up Angelo. I could name the guys that were picked in that draft after Benson but you’d simply cry.

          • CanadaBear

            I get that Johnny but Jones couldn’t finish the season and had less than 900 yds rushing. I hated the Cedrunk pick but he was the consensus #4 pick going into the draft. I think Rodgers might have been a better pick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • CanadaBear

            I get that but if you spend the majority of your salcap on one side of the ball it should be your bellcow. Our O is not getting it done. Also, the D imploded due to guys getting old, injuries, etc. PE spent a fortune on a run stuffing DE and a washed up DE. Not good. Our LB’s are old, beat up, lousy, clueless, etc. and our safety situation was laughable going into the off season and PE put a cheap bandaid on it that came off immediately.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            after all of the weapons that were brought in the opposing teams know that our line is the weakness. Trestman has to do what he said he was going to do which was get the ball out quickly to the weapons to reduce the pressure on Cutler and the linemen. That doesn’t mean dumping it to Forte every play. he has shown he can do it. He did it last year and he has done it this year. He has just been inconsistent with his playcalling.
            Cutler has a 95 rating and is in the top half of the league or near the top in every category. He has 2 INT’s in 2 games that really have been the killers because of the D being unable to stop the opposing teams in those games.
            Every QB throws INT’s/Fumbles. Not every team immediately concedes a scoring drive automatically as a result.
            Luck, Ryan, Brees, Cutler, Foles, Stafford and Romo all have 6 or 7 INT’s. I would challenge anyone to go watch what happened on the opposing teams next drive. The teams that are having a tough time this year are the ones that automatically give up points as a result. The Bears lead the pack in that respect.

          • CanadaBear

            It’s not all on Cutler. Nessman is at least as much at fault. You couldn’t have watched that first half without thinking, WTF? Cutler is going to win us some games, lose just as many with careless play, Nessman will make sure nobody’s feelings are hurt and then … Next verse same as the first.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            Cutler had that one pick. He was 21 for 34 for 190 and TD. Pick any of the 4 plays: Alshon bomb missed by a yard, Alshon contested drop in endzone, Marshall drop in endzone, Bennett drop in endzone and you end up with 22 for 34 with 225yds, 2TD’s and an INT with a rating of 95. That’s all with Trestman calling one of the worst games I’ve ever seen.
            I just am mystified why we act like we are 0-6 and we have Gabbert. The difference in this league between wins and losses is so fucking small. Rodgers fumbled at the end of the GB game and by the grace of fucking god himself somehow the dolphins couldn’t find a way to fall on it. The result? A win and accolades. If Cutler fumbles that the other team finds a way to either run it back for a TD. Result? Fire everyone.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            that’s why I can’t jump on the gloomwagon. I just know that those first 2 losses were so fucking borderline that it easily could have been a win. I see a strong 2nd half of the season and a 9-7 or 10-6 record. I fear that will leave us on the sidelines again and those first two losses, where we dominated the opponent with our offense, will be the reason.

          • After what transpired in the locker room last game, teams tend to go two ways.
            They either get an “us against the world” mentality and go on a run.
            OR, they totally implode.
            I hope it’s the former, but the schedule couldn’t have lined up any worse for such a run. Two teams that have dominated the Bears in recent years. Two teams that are playoff teams. Two teams, on the road.
            It’ll be hard sleddding. IF the Bears do win the next two, that’ll show me a lot about the team’s heart, and Trestman’s head, but I’m not getting my hopes up.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            I’d be more worried if they were at home actually.

          • BillW

            9-7 would be a hell of a coaching job, I have to say. 10-6 puts him in the coach of the year discussions.

    • He’s 11-12.
      Lovie was fired for winning 10 games.
      If Trestman is bizarro Lovie (Good OC, bad HC), then the sooner we give him the boot, the better.
      Still, I’ll give him this season, even if he totally bombs and we only win 4 games.
      Next off-season, I expect this to be the dominating topic if that’s the case.

      • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

        Lovie wasn’t fired for winning 10 games. he was fired for continually missing the playoffs and not addressing key personnel issues. Angelo was fired for the same thing.

        • CanadaBear

          Hmmmm. The more things change …

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            we are in year 2 of the revamping. If we are still here after the end of next year without substantial improvement we’ll start the rumblings together.

          • CanadaBear

            I’ll warm up the bus this year and you can join me next year.

          • Revamping? or regressing or treading water?
            That’s the issue.
            I really hope it is revamping, but Trestman has made a lot of questionable calls, going all the way back to last season, as Data listed.
            As the saying go, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, fool me you can’t get fooled again

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            well, this coming draft and FA period will be very interesting because it can be used to strengthen key areas instead of trying to find enough bandaids to cover all of the gaping wounds.

        • Barring an Xmas miracle, Trestman will miss the playoffs this year, and finish year two having approx a 16-17 record. He was brought in to get the team over the hump. He inherited a borderline playoff team with Lovie at HC, and Tice at OC, and a bunch of bums on the oline.
          Emery has given Trestman everything Angelo never gave Lovie, and Trestman has crashed the Ferrari into a ditch.
          Trestman even claimed, with a straight face, that he did not know about what happened post-game.
          Now either he’s a liar and hypocrite (always preaching accountability and transparency), or clueless.
          Not sure which would be worse.
          I’m not going to fire him mid-season, or even end of season, but as I said in a previous thread, if someone along the line of Cowher or Harbaugh wants to be HC for CHI, I’d have no issue with that.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            let’s slow down a bit with what was inherited. You just claimed the 2012 Bears were a Ferrari.

          • No, it was more like a BMW, but after adding Alshon, Bushrod, Long, etc, it was VASTLY more talented than what Lovie had under Angelo.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            key difference is that Lovie had a Hall of Fame D and Specials unit for almost his entire tenure but could never put it together on O. Angelo couldn’t maintain the quality and the D went to shit as a result and both units had to be rebuilt at the same time.
            The difference maker this year was the injuries to our top 3 WR’s in the first game and the D issues as well. Why doesn’t anyone talk about that? All 3 guys got hurt in the first fucking game. These are serious injuries that have hampered production incredibly. Buffalo and Carolina was a joke how badly those WR’s played because of injury.

          • CanadaBear

            The difference in the Buffalo game was Cutler got picked by a fat guy. Have you ever admitted that Cutler is mediocre? Fuck me, Johnny. Every QB has gone through adversity. The good ones conquer it.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            What did the Bills do after they picked it off at their 31?

          • CanadaBear

            REALLY?

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            what did the Bills do after Marshall fumbled after a 67yd drive heading into the red zone?

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            the answer is “soul crushing scoring drives with multiple 3rd down conversions”

          • CanadaBear

            OK, I’ll bite. We were moving down the field and Cutler threw one of the worst picks I’ve ever seen in my life. If there ever was a dumber throw in the NFL I didn’t see it. That pick deflated the team and the crowd. It wasn’t Nessman’s fault. It wasn’t the D’s fault. It wasn’t the ST’s fault. It was Cutler’s fault. PERIOD. And it cost us the game.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            that play did not cost us the game. it just didn’t. You can’t look at that singular play and say it cost the game.

          • CanadaBear

            Yes you can and that was it. Have you ever admitted that Cutler cost us a game?

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            Canada, the Bills took over at the 31, drove all the way down the field, then kicked a field goal. Then the Bears O took it almost 70yds down the field and tied it up. The game went to OT. The Bills engineered another 68yd drive to win it.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            Marshall’s fumble was devastating but no one says shit about that. We were driving it up their fucking ass when he fumbled that ball. Why is that not the game changer? Because it’s the aggregate not the one play.
            Even Gould’s easy misses last year weren’t the only reason we lost. So many other things had to happen.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            we also gave up 193 on the ground that game. holy fuck.

          • CanadaBear

            Fumbles happen. Not many rational Bears fans get too worked up over fumbles unless they keep happening to the same player. Then it’s time for said player to grab some bench. Every QB has INT’s. Not every QB throws picks to fat guys on a whim.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            tell me how “fumbles happen” somehow lessens the fact that our O with OUR QB driving down the field like we want him to to fucking put the ball in the endzone and the ball is turned over at the tail end of YET ANOTHER first down, one of 29 mind you, doesn’t absolutely kill the team just like an INT. You can’t pick and choose your “game killing plays” because I could count 7 just from that last fucking quarter and overtime on O and D.

          • CanadaBear

            Fumbles happen when someone puts the hat on the ball, take a killer lick, not taking care of the ball, etc. Throwing to a fat guy on a whim doesn’t just happen. Cutler is the personification of avg. How he gets there is troubling. Fabulous physical skills are offset by some of the most baffling INT’s I’ve ever seen. His stubborn insistence on trying to make the perfect pass when guys aren’t open, etc. At this point I wish we would have signed McCown and saved ourselves 15 mil/yr. I thought posters were insane when they said that last year. Not any more. I know you will run with this to prove your point that Cutler is a beast and I’m nuts. Carry on, I’m done.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            no, i’m more done.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            lol, I knew you’d get my humor. You know I can’t quit your Canadian ass. I’ll forgive your McCown remark when the sky falls on Sunday. Critics won’t know what hit’em.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            I think I agree with Johnny that it wasn’t THE thing that cost us the game. However, we knew our defense would suck. Cutler is not supposed to suck. He’s not supposed to throw those stupid throws. How long will we be okay with him way underachieving? Whether he cost us the game(s) or not, he’s not supposed to be the one to suck. And we’re all tired of seeing him suck. The QB gets all the accolades after a W, and Cutler deserves a fair share of the blame for all of the bears offensive woes all these many years.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            of course he has, just not the ones we’re fucking talking about.

          • CanadaBear

            I’ve never once heard you admit that.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            the majority of them happened in 2009 canada. then we went to the NFC Championship in 2010 where the Bears line was so bad that Cutler had to sometimes get rid of the ball instantaneously to Bennett and Olsen with gradeschool POP PASSES, went 7-3 in 2011 before injury and missed the playoffs and finished 3rd in the NFC North with a 10-6 record. Let me reiterate. THIRD IN THE NFC NORTH with a 10-6 record. Then missing the playoffs in an injury plagued 2013 year with complete Defensive meltdown.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            Losing to Green Bay and throwing multiple picks has been frustrating but at the same time, watching Martz and Tice try to outscheme Capers with no line or weapons was pretty amusing.
            Last year we actually have the game in our hands and lose in the last 38 seconds and ALL WE HEAR IS HOW CUTLER CAN”T BEAT THE PACKERS. He did beat them, to keep them out of the playoffs and the game was pissed away by the DEFENSE.

          • CanadaBear

            That means we lost. If Cutler was playing at that level this year we wouldn’t be having this conversation. He isn’t.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            what about Marshalls fumble after a 67yd drive going in to score?

          • We’ve won ONE more game then the Vikings. ONE more game. That’s “unacceptable”. The major reason for that is the Offense. They’ve been relatively healthy. So what’s going on?
            Now, either, it’s Trestman’s fault, Cutler’s fault, or BOTH, but it IS someone’s fault, and not injuries, or defense, or specials.
            Has the D and Specials shit the bed at times? Sure. LIKE EVERY OTHER TEAM.
            But the D has actually held up at times, and so have the specials (like the last game). We all said at the start of the season, “If only they get to avg, the O will be top 3 and win games”. Guess what, the O hasn’t, and that’s why we’re a 3 win team with no wins at HOME.

            It’s someone’s fault. You gotta pick one, or both, Johhny, and not dump it to the D and Specials who I would guess are about league avg in most categories.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            It’s not someone’s fault. It’s the teams fault. The O didn’t move the ball in the first half. The O has been anything but healthy. Dude, at one point we had 3 of 6 linemen hurt. All 3 WR’s hurt, and rookies/UFA’s playing at 4 to 6 positions on D

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            The Dolphins had 1 meaningful punt the entire game. That’s not “holding up”.

          • The Pats were playing with a make shift line. So were the Pack.
            Not every team, like the Bengals, have the luxury of TWO PB WRs, HB, and explosive TE.
            There’s no doubt about it. The O was expected to carry the team. They haven’t.

          • Trac

            There are three important reasons teams lose football games. Poor tackling, poor blocking and turnovers. All of the above needs to improve.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            As I said earlier this season. I’m not jumping ship yet. But if Cutler and the boys on O don’t start lighting up the scoreboard and keep playing way below their ceiling, I’m abandoning the Cutler ship by the end of the season. I don’t care who’s fault it is. Play calling, whatever. If Cutler is all that we thought he would be in when we got him all those years ago, eventually the captain must go down with the ship. The guy we thought was the unsinkable ship in ’09, may actually be the titanic.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m guessing we get waxed Sunday and then in 2 weeks up in Fudge land. That will leave us at 3-6. With 1 win in the last 7 games. We’d have to run the table to have any chance at the playoffs. I’m thinking even miracles don’t come that big.

          • TheBigCheesy

            How can a guy have an odd numbered record when he coaches two full years…. without going to the playoffs.

            Even stranger, how can a guy coach 33 games in two seasons without going to the playoffs?

          • Approx.
            He’s 11-12 right now. 9 games left. Lets say Trest wins 4, loses 5.
            15-17.
            Sorry, one off. That was off the top of my head (sarcasm, off)

          • TheBigCheesy

            i was just being an asshole

          • That’s always implied.

        • Trac

          Lovie was fired for multitudes of reasons. #1 Reason was because He wasn’t Emery’s guy. If he hadn’t had 2 years left on his contract when Emery took the job, he wouldda been gone after the McCaskeys gave Phil the keys to the Car.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Pete Carroll 7-9, 7-9, 11-5, 13-3

      • Good point. He drafted and started Wilson that year they went 11-5.
        Russell Wilsons unfortunately don’t grow on trees. But if Trestman finds one next year, I’ll give him a pass.

  • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

    Tech masters, how do I get all of my contacts from iCloud to my Outlook account for work so I can get them onto my new windows based Nokia phone?
    My old iPhone died and was not able to be revived and the info stuck in purgatory. I found my iCloud account and they are all there.

  • Hey, it’s my Bday today (golf clap all around).
    All I want is a Bears’ victory this week, or for the entire Lions and Pack team to get a massive 2week case of diarrhea, is that too much to ask, God?

    • CanadaBear

      Happy B-Day Butch! Hope you get some!

    • Shady

      Happy birthday sugar nips.

      • Feel free to send Marshawn Lynch over.
        I also accept bit-coin, and old porn mags found in alleyways.

        • GPLDAN

          Juggy Buggys.

          Chicks with racks who ride in horse drawn carriages.

          It’s got a very limited distribution for a very specific fetish.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    The Patriots are my Super Bowl favorites for months now, after they added Revis. I think their Defense is elite.

    – their 6th CB would be the 3rd Bears CB by a mile. It’s the best CB corp in the NFL.
    – they rotate 4 Ss next to McCourty, a Top 3 S in the NFL.
    – if one fucks up badly he’ll sit the rest of the game. It’s impossible to feast on one guy the whole game.
    – they are 22nd in total run D ad 1st in total pass D. Fucking first in the NFL.
    – they are 20th in yards allowed per run and 7th in yards allowed per pass.
    – they are 12th in points allowed, 12 th in yards allowed and tied 6th in yards allowed per defensive play.
    – they are 1st in turnovers in the NFL… as they also are. They operate on the ‘bend and steal the ball in key moments’ philosophy.

    Quick recap: 6th in yards allowed per defensive play, 1st in total pass yards, 7th in yards per pass and 1st in turnovers.
    I repeat myself 1ST IN TOTAL PASS YARDS AND 1ST IN TURNOVERS !!! Can you feel it ?

    Before the season this was my ‘most difficult Bears game’ of the year. Reasons:
    – they are notorious for creating turnovers
    – they have Gronk and murder zone Defenses.

    • CanadaBear

      And 3 extra days to prepare.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        That only helps for heath reasons and better internal chemistry while they break in their new key players and formations.
        I don’t think it helps from a ‘lets study the opponent’ pov. The Bears are predictable all around.

        • BillW

          This is a stretch but after a tough stretch maybe the Pats will R E L A X a little too much and we’ll catch them overconfident.

          It happens.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Highly doubtful. Not with the Patriots.

        • CanadaBear

          Sounds like an advantage to me.

    • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

      Yeah. I shouldve known last week. I felt it would be a win. Hence, loss. this week I feel like a definite loss. History this season then makes me think, cool, maybe we’ll pull this one out. But I fear that trend is over. If I was a betting man, and EVER bet against my beloved, I would take NE in a heartbeat. To win this game, we’ll need to create some turnovers, put mad pressure on Brady, and have long scoring drives.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        The Patriots are highly turnover dependable, maybe more than any other big team. They win the turnover battle so many times that they are out of their element when they lose it.

        So … to win this game… win the turnover battle. Period. Give me Bears +2 and I won’t care about pressure or long scoring drives.

    • GPLDAN

      I picked up the Pats D in FF for my 1-6 shitbowl team.

      I plan on turning this fucking bus around.

      • Haha That league is pretty competitive. Usually, some ppl drop out. This season, thanks to Commish badgering, they’re all setting up their line-ups and scraping the bottom of the wire barrel.
        If you had started Watkins instead of rolling with Raider WRs! you would have beat NB!
        Raider WRs? Did you chug TradeWind sat night? lol

        • GPLDAN

          I should win a trophy for starting two Raider wideouts.

          The Shambolic Owner award and then have a picture of a decaying Al Davis.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I don’t know shit about FF, but I’d almost never take them. The Patriots in general are anti FF, if not for Gronk. They play to win not for the stats.

        • Yes, but in FF, you get points for defensive turnovers, esp if they score off them, and esp in this league.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Ok. That’s a good choice. They’ll play soft when they have a nice lead and because they play numerous schemes and players often they start slowly.
            Somehow they always turn the ball over. So, win for you.

    • TheBigCheesy

      They also have Tom Brady

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        They also have Belickick and the best home record the last n years. That’s beside the point.
        In my mind I’m not star struck as a fan. Everybody is beatable.

        • TheBigCheesy

          I just thought it was impressive how you listed all of the reasons why the Pats are a tall order and you didn’t even have to mention one of the greatest players of all time.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            No, I was just responding to Jeff’s under rated vision about their D.
            Then I was just pointing out that their strong parts are Bears weaknesses (turnovers, zone D and the elite TE).
            It’s not about the individual, but the scheme and mentality.

            I don’t think it’s such a tall order for the Bears to win there… in theory. I just didn’t like the fact their elite D is portrayed as a collection of bums. That’s insane and highly unproductive.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Just to visually see their CB and S depth and how they use it:

      CORNERBACK
      Darrelle Revis — 452 of 478 (94.6 percent)
      Logan Ryan — 235 of 478 (49.2 percent)
      Alfonzo Dennard — 221 of 478 (46.2 percent)
      Kyle Arrington — 212 of 478 (44.4 percent)
      Malcolm Butler — 63 of 478 (13.2 percent)
      Brandon Browner — 41 of 478 (8.6 percent)

      SAFETY
      Devin McCourty — 434 of 478 (90.8 percent)
      Patrick Chung — 358 of 478 (74.9 percent)
      Duron Harmon — 110 of 478 (23.0 percent)
      Tavon Wilson — 82 of 478 (17.2 percent)
      Nate Ebner — 25 of 278 (5.2 percent)

      PS: Against the Jets their run D performance was very poor as Jeff said. Thing is they played nickel against run formations (2 TE-1 RB). I don’t know why, but it might have to do with the fact Mayo is on IR, Hightower was a game time health decision, McCourty and Arrington got injured in the first half and Brandon Browner was returning after suspension/injury. All these moving pieces in the back end might have made them conservative… don’t let them throw deep, make them run and force fumbles in heavy rain.

      That being said they are a nickel team as it is:

      Sub: 283 of 478 (59.4 percent)… with 241 in nickel & 43 in dime.
      Base: 189 of 478 (39.5 percent)
      Heavy: 5 of 478 (1.0 percent)

      Last year they played 67% in sub packages.

    • Ososfan

      Come on man, Emery got shit when he came here give the dude some time to bring in talent to make us relevant again.

      • BillW

        I agree. If they lose this particular game, it tells us nothing about the Bears. We’re not good enough yet for this to be considered any kind of barometer.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Emery is the the man. I like him, even if he makes mistakes. He’s the only big time asset of the Bears, but he’s alone.

  • BillW

    Offense regressing – curious play calls at times – consensus is he is being outcoached frequently.

    I’m sure he’ll get another year -that’s professionally and fiscally prudent.

    But I can’t think personnel is the problem on offense. I certainly don’t want to go through the litany of failed QBs between McMahon and Cutler again. Cutler is by FAR the best we’ve had in all that time.

    And if the right tackle is our problem, then we’re sort of being selfish. Why do you have to have great players at all 11 positions in order for this offense to work. Few if any teams have that.

    Going back to the other thread – here’s what I’d like to see:

    1. Trust the run game; make it an integral part – not just a set up for the pass.
    2. This is a rhythm offense – it’s critical to get and maintain that. So eliminate the cute of trick plays Trestman seems so proud of. If they work, they’re exciting but if they fail the suck the rhythm out of the offense.
    3. To that end – no huddle more.
    4. and finally, mentioned by others – roll Jay out too.

    They need a couple plays they trust on 3rd and short; the two key plays in my opinion Sunday were both 3rd and short. Again, with a rhythm offense first downs are critical. Not to say you don’t take shots at times, but early in the game the risk is losing rhythm.

    • GPLDAN

      Bill –

      I read your posts out loud doing a George HW Bush imitation, with a bit of Dana Carvey in there.

      So I wanted to thank you for saying “fiscally prudent”. Really helped.

      • BillW

        Thousand points of light…

      • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

        “Fiscally prudent….at this juncture…”

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      right tackle is a problem, as it was last year. The difference between last year and this year is that last year we did not leave Mills all alone out there. We used RB’s and TEs to chip more often, or we went jumbo and had Britton out there to help. Have we even seen the Eben Britton package this year? I don’t think so but I can’t remember. We ran and passed out of that package last year with pretty good success.

      • BillW

        I’m not saying right tackle is not a problem; I’m just saying other offenses are able to succeed with a weak link or even two.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          i know. i pretty much agree with everything you said. Other offenses scheme around their weak links. I don’t think we have been doing that like we did last year. Someone last off season broke down the success we had when Britton was on the field as an extra tackle, I think it might have been Jeff. I can’t remember, but it was pretty impressive.

      • Pro Football Focus graded Mills pretty lowly last year.
        I thought it was a little harsh, esp for a rook, but maybe they were on to something.
        However, this year, it’s hard to tell if it’s the foot inj. I have a feeling it is, but regardless, Ola should start over him, AND get help with chips.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Too little, too late.

          The Patriots would have made than change before or -at the latest- during the Miami game.

          If you react you lose in the NFL. Have to be a step ahead. That’s the beauty of this amazing competition.

  • Trac

    The #1 Reason our O can’t get out of their way is the O-line. It starts with them. It’s that simple boys.

    http://www.csnchicago.com/bears/moons-week-7-bears-grades-offensive-line

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      The #1 Reason is the fact the Bears are a losing franchise.

      • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

        Barb, why are you here?

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          what do you mean ?

          • BillW

            He’s gone for now. I won’t speak for him but maybe he means why do you come to this board. A statement like “the number one reason the O can’t get out of their way is the Bears are a losing franchise” leads one to wonder what the point is.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            My statement wasn’t “the number one reason the O can’t get out of their way is the Bears are a losing franchise”. I said “the problem isn’t the O, but the fact the Bears are a losing franchise”. The Bears are losers by designs. It’s a chronic problem. It comes from the owners.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Well, I gotta ask – why in the world are you a fan?

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          So from your point of view there shouldn’t be any Browns fans ? That’s a strange mentality.

    • Ososfan

      Man, the fact that Kromer and Freshman have been able to hide the fact that we STILL need more talent in the O line should be praised. I agree man, we need higher draft picks for the line, I’ve been saying this for like two years now. (Well, we all have)

  • I feel like the cynical old con Red in Shawshank Redemption, and Johhny is Andy Dufregne (without the ass-raping):

    or the old cynical detective Somerset and Johhny the true believer detective Mills (insert “Bears” for “World”)

    More disturbingly: why do I feel like Morgan Freeman today?
    Maybe cuz it’s my bday, the Bears are sucking, and I’m feeling old and weary.

    Make me believe Johnny!

    • happy birthday

      • Maybe as a bday gift, you can compare Brees and Cutler’s season so far.
        I think they have about the same amount of INTs to date. They also play in a similar system (Kromer link). It’d be interesting to compare a lock down “elite” player with Cutler. Just a thought on an article (maybe specifically target how they differ with the type of INTs they throw? Never know. Cutty could be outplaying Brees this season).

        Also, someone else wanted a link to that Britton package piece you posted last year. Pretty sure it was you.

        Thxs

        • I’m hoping to do a piece over the bye breaking down all of Cutler’s interceptions so far this year. I have a hunch most of them are going to be bad throws (poor mechanics) or miscommunication with the receiver than bad decisions.
          I really don’t want to make any comparisons to Brees, because that will bring out a shit-ton of people saying “See, I told you he’s elite!” or “you think Cutler is elite? What a dumbass!” Just not a conversation I want to start.
          (FWIW, I have maintained for years that Brees is a tick below the top trio of Rodgers, Brady, and Peyton because those 3 always make the playoffs while Brees’ teams do not consistently do so. THe modern NFL is set up such that a truly elite QB should be enough to guarantee a playoff appearance, though you need a great team around him to do anything once you get there).
          Back to the INTs… not to say this relieves Cutler of blame. Poor mechanics is 100% on him, and I think his mechanics have regressed this year after taking a step forward last year. Poor communication w/ receivers is also on him, at least somewhat . Have to make sure you’re on the same page.
          But this would suggest 2 easy things to do to remove those mistakes: 1) better protection (aka more blockers). Get Cutler comfortable in the pocket and watch how those mechanics improve. 2) Simplify routes. Remove option routes that lead to these miscommunications.

        • and as to the Britton piece, don’t think I could find it again. It was something after week 4 or 5 says how the offense was much better in yards per play with Britton out there as extra blocker than when he’s not, but I think I remember that leveling off after a few weeks once teams adjusted.

  • TheBigCheesy

    Johnny Waffle:

    I find it hilariously amusing when you emphasize so strongly that “you win and lose as a team”. Not because you’re wrong (I agree with you), but because winning percentage is literally THE ONLY THING that separates Jay Cutler from Jeff George. Look at their statistics. Look at their reputations. Cutler’s superior winning percentage is THE ONLY significant deviation. And when you consider the inflated statistics of QBs during this era, you’d have to say that Jeff George is statistically better than Jay Cutler.

    • GPLDAN
    • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

      Well, since I actually know about Jeff George and I suspect that you may not be as dumb as you sometimes advertise you’d know that a comparison between Cutler and George is completely illogical. George lost over 70% of the games he started for the fucking Colts. had a year where he had 7TD’s and 15INT’s and was traded after 3 years. he was the fucking number 1 pick of the whole 1990 draft which means expectations were sky high.
      So, that has nothing to do with Cutler.
      George played for 15+yrs for 9teams
      Cutler 9yrs for 2 teams
      So, that has nothing to do with Cutler.
      George was suspended for an entire season
      Cutler not so much.
      So, that has nothing to do with Cutler.
      George 57.9% completion
      Cutler 61% completion
      Not the same, unless you want to start saying that Cutler’s 61% is pretty much the same as River’s 64% but you probably don’t want to start comparisons like that.
      George 27,000 yds in 15+ yrs 131 games
      Cutler 24,000 yds in 9yrs 104 games
      George played in a different century than Cutler on different teams in a different league so that’s kind of different.
      So I see exactly what you are saying. If Cutler goes back in time, loses an additional 35% of his games as a Bears starter, gets suspended for fighting a coach, then bounces around the league for another 7yrs and 7 teams playing until age 42 then yeah, almost identical.
      It’s a dumb argument and people that bring up that comparison lose a lot of football credibility when they do.

      • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

        I can no longer respect any of your posts, even the ones that make a shred of sense. You are football dead to me. The Jeff George post sealed it.

      • TheBigCheesy

        ADJUSTED (100 = league average) Completion % by year:

        George: 90, 91, 111, 99, 110, 108, 97 (3 games), 96, 93, 103, 101

        Cutler: 96, 110, 104, 99, 99, 91, 93, 106, 120 (7 games)

        Yards per attempt:

        George: 7.0
        Cutler: 7.2

        ADJUSTED (100 = league average) Yards per Attempt by year:

        George: 87, 80, 92, 89, 108, 117, 108 (3 games), 115, 105, 129, 108

        Cutler: 109, 112, 108, 93, 109, 106, 97, 106, 98 (7 games)

        They’re both assholes. They’re both average. And they both had huge expectations because of arm strength. The only major difference is winning % which is what I already prefaced the entire discussion around, so I don’t understand why you mentioned winning % TWICE in the above comment.

        • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

          dude you’re being a tool. You know full well your comparisons don’t mean shit. different eras, different teams, different leagues, different schemes, different players, different circumstances, etc.
          It’s almost mind numbing that you of all people is making this comparison. You of all people.

      • TheBigCheesy

        Oh and Jeff George was 1-3 against the Green Bay Packers. Now, that’s not quite 1-10 (including postseason), but it’s on the way there!

        • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

          what does that have to do with anything. Does Jay play on the 1990 Colts or 1994 Falcons? you’ve really let yourself go.

        • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

          dont’ even bother Cheese, i’m out of here.

  • Are we sold on Chris Williams? Cuz if not…

    Austin Pettis was late for a Rams team activity over the weekend.

    Pettis and practice squad WR Emory Blake were both late, and both have since been cut. But that was likely just the straw that broke the camel’s back on Pettis. The former third-round pick had already agreed to a paycut and somehow averaged just 9.66 yards per reception in his NFL career. Stedman Bailey and Chris Givens are better
    prospects. – RotoWorld

    Pettis is a KR/PR and gunner from what I’ve read. He’s also making about 600,000K, so a cheap pick up.
    If he’s not claimed, we should prob pick him up

  • GPLDAN
    • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

      c’mon bro, why are you trolling now?

      • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

        at least shitty local Chicago beat guys like Bowen try to bring some technical relevance to their articles. This was like reading a post by the producers of 19 Kids and Counting. One sentence from 8 different articles and then tailing off on Marshall even though the headline is about Cutler hating.

        • GPLDAN

          Again, the article was weak. Not the reason I posted it.

          When the Bears are in this bad of disarray, it SHOULD be a national story. When the Jags are like this because Ron Jeremy has driven them off a cliff, nobody cares.

          When Arizona is stinking it up, nobody cares.

          People in this city CARE. We’re stick of watching the Mara family make the Giants relevant. We’re stick of being out MANAGED and out COACHED and out DRAFTED by the guys up north.

          This team should be on par with the Giants and make as much money as the Cowboys and we don’t. Because of the regime. And it seems like we’re locked into another Wanny level era and nobody is damn happy about it.

      • GPLDAN

        The relevant fact is not that the reporting is weak or even erroneous.

        The relevant fact, and the reason I posted it – is that WashPo, like it or not, is a National Paper. There aren’t that many: USA today, NYT, WSJ and WashPo. I don’t include the LA Times in that.

        The Chicago Tribune may as well be a back woods paper with local pumpkin recipes from Granny Wabbo in it.

        So the point is: Our predicament is getting big attention.

        This is not a BAD thing. This isn’t Kansas fucking City, where the Chiefs can go off the rail for a decade and nobody gives a fuck.

        This team, were it in competent hands, as per the Fortune Article, should be America’s Team. This team should out sell the Cowboys and in fact, it doesn’t out sell the fucking Jets or Seahawks in merchandise.

        This team is criminally mismanaged up at the Teddy Ballgame / Family level.

        So it’s good to see an article, however misguided, say: we guaranteed $54M to a guy and he’s not playing smart. I don’t care that all the details aren’t spot on. It’s a message that needs to get OUT THERE.

        WHY? (Now I’m pissed)

        Because we want new ownership JOHNNY. We want it because this town deserves better then these corporate peter puffing slowpokes with a head coach so corporate WEAK that he won’t even COP to the fact there was a brawl in the locker room.

        His answer? “I didn’t see that.” You fucking Nessman toady corporate Cryptkeeper fuck with your vaguely fuckable daughters and your book of aphorisms, FUCK THAT.

        It PISSES me off that I golf with a Bears bag and all I get are snickers at the range, Johnny Luft!

        this town deserves better, we deserve to not be a Buffone Tomaha Can, and the reason we aren’t starts by hiring stooges like Emery and so national press helps put the heat on Ginny and the boys and that is a FUCKING GOOD THING!

        • BillW

          I don’t consider their sports column to be national. It reads more local. Like I said, it was a lazy article written to essentially tell Washington fans their QB situation isn’t so bad.

        • Ososfan

          Emery has made some very great choices in the draft, realize that he didn’t have much to work with when he started. Can’t blame Emery when he has one season to turn around many season of ineptitude! Freshman deserves more time, he should learn and we should be moving on, if not, I believe Emery will fire him. We as fans do deserve more and I agree with you in that aspect, Big changes need to be made, I have no idea how the voice of most fans can get to the upper management of the team tbh……

        • BillW

          The one thing (only thing) that the McCaskey’s pay attention to is ridicule of the franchise. But they are not going to sell. Ever. They think it’s “neat” to own a football team. I use that term intentionally.

          Some member of the family a few years ago was reported to be heard singing “Orange and Blue – Cover 2” to the tune of Edleweiss. That’s gag-reflex stuff. But this is their little hobby – household pet – whatever.

          All the past championships and the fact that GSH started the league in their minds gives them the right to be considered royalty. No need really to do more it would appear.

          Ginny is called the matriarch of the NFL with a perfunctory sense of respect. But she and her family have no influence on the league at all. They are kind of off to the side as a memory of where this all came from but no part at all of where it’s been going and will go.

          And I think they are all OK with that.

          • GPLDAN

            And I think they are all OK with that.

            Well we aren’t.

            And if they were publically traded, the investors wouldn’t be.

            Even the Private Equity they fund their shit with isn’t happy about the numbers the org posts in some areas – but what SAVES them is that Soldier Field deal that Teddy Ballgame fucked Richie Daley in the ass over.

          • BillW

            I cannot agree more. But we can argue all day about whether the coach or QB or DC or anyone else should or shouldn’t go – and yet the one thing that is set in stone is the McCaskey ownership.

          • GPLDAN

            I genuinely disagree.

            There are already ownership groups forming for when Ginny croaks.

            The rest of that family wants to sip mint juleps and play tennis at the club. They HATE football. Maybe George doesn’t but he’s the fucking Fredo Corleone of that family.

            So when she goes, if the team is not Top 10 earnings (and it isn’t) then people will be pitching to take that property and fix those earnings.

            It’s valuation is probably 2.5B. The club, under competent management, is worth 3.5B.

            How many investments exist to turn 2.5B into 3.5B in 5 years? Not many.

          • BillW

            You have no idea how I hope you are right. I recall a rumor that mj and Oprah wanted to lead a group to buy the Bears. Not sure how I’d think about that but better them than Trump

    • BillW

      God I’m sorry I read that article. Lazy reporting aimed at the Washington fans so they don’t feel so bad about their own QB situation.

      I’ve commented on this quote in the Trib too:

      “After watching film all week, we saw (Cutler) was looking where he threw the ball. He was always looking at his receivers and never looking off,”

      ALWAYS looking at his receivers? NEVER looking off? Then why only ONE int? (On an overthrow that had NOTHING to do with jumping a route or seeing the QBs eyes.

      Cutler is an easy mark for lazy reporters and Bear haters.

      And I’m getting tired too of his “calm” demeanor being criticized by (probably) the same people who criticized him yelling at Martz and Webb.

      I’ve said this many times also – he’s by far the best QB we’ve had since McMahon. Damning with faint praise or not, it’s meant to say I’m not sorry we traded for him – or signed him. Those were the correct moves.

      That said, it’s time to look ahead for the next QB – but NOT at all costs. There are very few really good ones out there. Just ask fans of about 20-25 other teams.

  • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

    Dude, fuck all you faggots for letting shit like this go down on this blog. Letting Cheesy troll at will , letting our own guys troll? Fucking stop being pussies.
    Jeff, stop twatting and moderate this fucking idiocy. What a waste.

    • TheBigCheesy

      “shit like this” is going down everywhere. The locker room. Halas Hall. WSCR. Cutler canceled his own show yesterday. Maybe Jeff can moderate all that “idiocy” too.

      • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

        don’t interrupt, i’m on a roll. you’ll have this place to yourself in a couple of minutes.

  • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

    if i’m going out i’m going out in a blaze of glory. There are a handful of guys on here that I have met and really like. It was fun meeting you and having a fucking great time. A lot of you guys suck and there are some pretty clear cut reasons why a lot of guys have bailed. I guess this is a sample size of life with a little too much anonymity thrown in.
    There are guys on here that don’t even like the Bears, there are guys that project their unhappiness onto this blog and it’s fucking pathetic. I know that not everyone can be a blind optimist but you don’t have to be abject shitballs either.
    Guys that get super bombed and all depressed and talk so much fucking shit like they’re about to jump off ledges. Guys that project depression and anger onto 1 target. Fuck you guys you know who you are.

    • TheBigCheesy

      You don’t have a problem with dabearsblog. You have a problem with the internet (specifically, the blogosphere). Clearly.

      If the Bears season is frustrating enough for the locker room to explode, what do you expect the keyboard warriors to do? Do you not know how this whole thing works????

  • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

    How do you pussies look yourselves in the mirror because I hope to God you don’t act like this in your real lives. Moaning and groaning and bitching and crying and forgetting everything your dad’s fucking taught you or never learning what they failed to teach you.
    I try to bring a little passion and a little perspective and it’s fucking lost on a huge number of you and the game itself is obviously lost on you. The Bears org has fucked up for so long in terms of putting together a complete product that when we actually have the makings of it you’re ready to tear it down like you’re starting a new season of fucking madden on fucking Nintendo.

    • TheBigCheesy

      I highly doubt most people act the same online as they do in real life. There is freedom in anonymity. Sure, it allows for asshole trolls like me, but it’s not all bad.

      I would hope that you don’t run around calling people “faggots” in real life. If Jeff was going to moderate any of the comments on this site, you know damn well that those would be the first to go.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        What are you even doing here? you are about as entertaining as taking a cheese grater across the knuckles. Does your life have so little in it that you cling to anything including hanging out in the blogs of known rivals? It can’t be that boring up cheese land, i am sure there are plenty of cows to tip or fuck. Yet instead you waste your time coming on here to make stupid ass comments, there was a time that you appeared to actually make decent points, but that time has long since passed. So piss the fuck off!

        • TheBigCheesy

          This blog is better than any of the packer blogs I’ve seen. The frequency and length of Jeff’s posts (and tweets) are perfect in my opinion. It’s also interesting because he is so narrative-driven (on account of his playwright background) and his posts reflect that (I think this approach makes his ideas seem more naive yet they are also more entertaining).

          I’ve also been posting since 2010 and so I know a few of the internet “personalities” that also post on this blog. You know that feeling you get when you watch a TV show for a long time? It doesn’t even have to be intrinsically interesting for you to be interested in following it; you know the story so well you just want to continue to see how it unfolds.

          Also, GPLDAN is my favorite internet poster of all time.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            Way to go GP, its your fault he’s here.

          • GPLDAN

            I smell vaguely of cheddar and dog shit, so it makes perfect sense.

          • DaMurph

            Im sure he will sleep well tonight after your glowing endorsements of his posts

  • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

    I wasted a whole morning on this shit and by the time a bunch of you that have a little less flexibility in their jobs get to this i’ll be long fucking gone. If you know me you know where i’m coming from.
    Murph, MB, Rabbit, Doc, it was great meeting you guys, keep fucking bringing it. To the rest of you that stepped up over the last few years I hang my hat to you, I may not have agreed with you but a lot of you seem genuine and it was fun while it was fun.
    It’s days like today that make me frustrated and so i’m done with it. I won’t slink away because I want a lot of you guys to know that it’s over. The trolls won. Cheesy beat me because the internet makes it so easy to troll, especially when it’s about something we all love or say we love so much.

    • GPLDAN

      I guess Germany did invent the H-Bomb in time.

      Would you knock it the fuck off?

      Here’s what this is about: this city is having a shit fit over Jay fucking Cutler. The media is pissed and you are upset that his play is sub fucking par.

      So blaze out if you must. Sorry to see you go, but do what you gotta. The facts are the facts: this is a 6-10 team and it’s not turning around. Too many mercenaries and not enough leadership.

    • German word of the day: Weltschmerz

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weltschmerz

    • TheBigCheesy

      Cheesy didn’t win anything. It’s not Cheesy versus dabearsblog.

      You “lost” because you hitched your dick to Jay Cutler’s conversion van and he’s driven it off the bridge while looking for a match to light his cigarette.

      You preached the Cutler gospel for 6 years and you’ve finally run out of excuses. It’s okay, we all follow false prophets at one time or another during our lives and very few of us react differently than you are. It’s hard to accept.

    • Ososfan

      How are you paying attention to bum-ass tricks like the trolls, waffle? We gotta take the bad and keep hoping for the good. Hang on there.

  • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

    What’s worse is that guys like Cheesy and even bigger fucking nerdball tools like his brethren take this fucking place over and everyone sits by and lets it happen. Little fuckheads that come on and throw shots across the bow are made even more maddening by the shit that our own guys say.

  • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

    Greenguy, mrarodgers, etc, please get ebola, if you ever even met a Packer and acted like this they’d smack your tiny head with their dicks and tell you to fuck off.

  • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

    This is the final post of the original JOHNNY CHICAGO, aka Waffle, aka CuttyFlesh Cannon of Death, aka DOONNNNNNN”TTTTTT CAAAAARRRREEEEE!!!!
    Choke on our future success you fucking huge flaming homos! If I loved you you knew it and if you’re a huge pussy please learn to be a better fan over the years.
    SINCERELY,
    BEARS FOREVER, PUSSIES GET EBOLA

    • Hope this doesn’t mean you quit the FF league cuz most of the cool guys are indeed in that league. MBHP, GP, Artoo, Shady, Ender, etc.
      I understand the frustration though. Da Blog mojo seems off somehow. An odd mixture of defeatism, analytics, and pseudo-psychology. I guess this is what happens when seasons go bad.

      Maybe Irish’s aliens have avenged him.

  • BillW

    In all seriousness there must be a way to form a “private” board so the regulars here can have their discussion without outsiders chiming in. It certainly sounds like many people want this to be an exclusive members only club where only the “right” people are admitted.

    Again, in all seriousness there is nothing wrong with that at all. But this isn’t it.

    • Scott W.

      Things level out. The pendulum swings wildly sometimes is all. I don’t think we need to become blog preppers.
      I think if the Bears had beaten Buffalo and Miami, the atmosphere in here would have a lot more gravity.

      • BillW

        I personally cringe when I hear vulgarity and slurs thrown so carelessly at people it’s me or not. I know – it’s the internet – get a thick skin etc. But it doesn’t seem like the vulgar slur hurlers have too thick of a skin either. They just display their “drama” in a pseudo-macho way instead.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Or by van surfing….NTTAWWT

          • DaMurph

            LMFAO!!

    • Nah. Then it becomes an echo chamber.
      Besides, many bloggers have gotten into it over the past. It’s just that the disappointing season compounds the already existing long-standing disagreements.

      The oldest and most contentious of which begins and ends with Cutler.

      • BillW

        The irony is that I (of all people?) don’t happen to think he’s the problem. I’m done defending him – but I believe the Bears (or some other team) could win a Super Bowl with him.

        I don’t believe the Bears will, but not because of Cutler.

        • CanadaBear

          I did at the start of the season. Now, I can’t ever see Cutler having 3-4 good to great games in a row with everything on the line.

  • A very clear, concise and sadly, realistic, picture of the playoff picture (spoiler alert, we’re not in it):

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/21/a-week-eight-look-at-the-state-of-the-playoff-race/

  • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

    I’m really tired of this place turning into a bitch fest and watching somebody quit the blog.

    Net Net. We’re all pissed off about the bears season. Some of us vent in ways that displease others. Who gives a fuck? I’m like Johnny in that no matter how bad it gets, I’ll always root for the beloved and I’ll always try to keep things in perspective and err on the side of seeing the silver lining. I’m not like Johnny in that I’ll never let the malcontents effect my course. If I jumped off the rails every time somebody piled on the bears, I’d have jumped long ago. Does it hurt a little worse when fellow fans are the ones piling on? Sure. But I understand that their emotions are frayed due to years of bears mediocrity, so I just give them a pass and look the other way. When that day comes, and it will, when our beloved finally hoist the lombardi, I’ll be able to say that I was on the bandwagon the whole time, shitty players, coaches and fans be damned.

    • I always think of guys like Albert and Canada who stuck with the Bears through the 70s. That 85 championship must have been so much sweeter for them after all those years of futility.

      Gotta stick it out. Till, ya know, we can’t stand it no more.

      • BillW

        If it’s not too much to ask, please add me to that list of Bear fans who stuck with them through the mid sixties to today.

        And yes – 85 was very SWEET. That’s why though people rightfully say “what’s the deal with Ditka?” he will always be special.

        • Ososfan

          I was born in 89 so really only have 2006 to look to as a season to rember for the beloved. Came relatively late as a fan of football and on a whim decided on the Bears and I’m sticking forever.

          • CanadaBear

            Good on ya! Might be a while til the next one.

      • DaMurph

        It just sucks that as we get older all we have to hang our hat on is the 85 team. Even when the Bears lost back in the day, other teams knew they played The Bears! Even if we lost, there was a certain amount of swag, the other guys were beat up. Different time, different game. The big hit isnt celebrated any more. Would be more tolerable if the team was ANGRY about losing. Its rough sometimes, Ive seen some of the worst teams and Ive seen the best team!

      • CanadaBear

        I’m bitching but I’m staying the course as long as I’m on this side of the ground. Murph summed it up perfectly. I was lucky enough to remember the ’63 game, too. That was awesome. I was 11 watching it with my old man and 3 of his older friends (mid 40’s to around 60).

        • BillW

          Obviously you weren’t in Chicago. I was about the same age but for some reason could not follow football on radio. So I didn’t listen – it bothered me to be so confused as to what was happening. So I didn’t know until my Dad got home – very cold, very happy, and very “happy”.

          • CanadaBear

            We always got the Bears game. I grew up on the Miss. River in Iowa.

        • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

          For the record, it’s the people bitching about everyone else’s understandable reactions to yet another loss that gets annoying. Just let everybody deal with the disappointment in their own way. If you don’t like it (like Johnny clearly doesn’t) then don’t read the post.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Slow clap

    • BillW

      I don’t think it’s piling on to point out where one thinks the shortcomings are. If someone thinks the QB is the reason for failure, it’s not piling on. If someone thinks it’s the DC, it’s not piling on. If someone thinks it’s the HC, it’s not piling on.

      If someone thinks it’s Matt Forte, then that’s a problem. If the team went 11-5 and people complained that they weren’t 13-3 – yeah, that’s a problem.

      Cheesy is the only one on this board who wants the Bears to lose. Everyone else wants them to win and we all have opinions (usually a mixture of informed and emotional) as to why it isn’t happening.

      The people who don’t care about the Bears wouldn’t spend time (and money) watching.

    • GPLDAN

      We’re bitching?

      I thought we were just pointing out what the national press is saying.

      Some of us coined the term Rosendoom and the Doomer, so I think we know what being a bitch is. Bill’s commentary is bitchy, that’s why Corm has called him Belinda, and I love that nickname.

      Corm, you owned that one.

      As for the rest, this team is a shambolic mess when there are fistfights in the locker room. The press is reporting that Kyle Long needed to be WALKED OUT of the locker room BY SECURITY, because it was getting physical.

      So I don’t think we’re reflecting anything the Chicago press isn’t doing.

      I still wear my Bears hat and Bears scarf and golf with my Bears bag and have a Bears sticker on my car and endure “Cutler sucks” comments from people, so I am out there waiting to be vindicated.

      It’s guys like Murph in their 60s I feel for. I’m 45. I probably can live to see a new regime fix this. I predict Emery will have to let Trest go after next season if we are below .500, or even fail to make the playoffs. Who he gets after that will determine if he stays.

      So we’re waiting it out. I don’t believe in these guys, it’s in my gut – so I just don’t – but I still show up and watch the damn games hoping they will turn it around.

      But I am on the brink. I really am. My SO wants me to be done with football and she’s got a point. It’s getting to be a really annoying team to stick by, but I continue to do so.

      • You had me at “hello”.
        I too stick it out. I watch every last second of even blow-outs. Yeah, I watched every last second of that shit blizzard vs NE.
        I don’t much buy the media trying to make a narrative about the locker room.
        I’ve been in locker rooms on losing teams. Shit can get ugly. And I’ll tell all another thing too, when you get used to losing on a team, these outburst DON’T happen because everyone just expects to lose.
        So, I’m happy someone blew up and whatever had to be said, was said.
        It’s like Festivus’ “Airing of grievances”.

        Now they just have to “get busy living, or get busy dying” so to speak (sorry, can’t stop thinking about Shawshank today for some strange reason).

      • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

        Cutting and pasting an earlier reply to Canada:

        For the record, it’s the people bitching about everyone else’s understandable reactions to yet another loss that gets annoying. Just let everybody deal with the disappointment in their own way. If you don’t like it (like Johnny clearly doesn’t) then don’t read the post.

        • CanadaBear

          Johnny and I have this same argument about once a year. We drive each other nuts but it never gets personal. Next time he’s on here we’ll be yukking it up again. I’m not even remotely mad at Johnny. Never was and I don’t think that’s reflected in the posts. Just frustration.

      • BillW

        The Belinda post was entertaining from an objective point of view – and also more over the top dramatic than anything I could ever dream of writing.

        And Waffle or whoever he is even topped THAT one for drama.

        • BillW

          But it was MANLY drama so I guess that’s OK.

          Given the gay slurs that are thrown around and using terms like “Belinda” etc I can see where some of the venom toward me comes from.

          • GPLDAN

            Nobody posts gay slurs around here, Bill.

            That’s just you projecting.

          • BillW

            Interesting that “faggot” is not considered a gay slur on this board. Duly noted.

            I didn’t say that was directed at me; just that slurs like that are in fact used on this board without objection.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            “Faggot” is from french origins meaning twigs or sticks. Johnny used it because he is clearly French.

          • BillW

            Or “switch”? So this is related to the AP case?

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            that would be an interesting headline “AP used a Faggot to beat his son!!!”

          • BillW

            I guess what I’m saying though isn’t the statute of limitations up yet on Bill bashing? I get it – I get it – I get it. Enough’s enough already.

  • Ososfan

    Waffle, take some time off like MB has, but dont quit the Damn blog my dude. There is no way or reason to do so, the reason this site is so heat is because of many/mostly all the passionate fans like you posting all the time. I hardly read Cheesy’s post because I can’t comprehend how a dude that is a fan of another team spends so much time on outlr blog. BEAR DOWN.

    • DaMurph

      Johnny will be back, hes too passionate!! He loves a lot of us too much!

      • Ososfan

        We all love him and his passion. You too Murphy I know I’m still new here but I’ve learned a lot from all you guys that it’d be devastating to see y’all leave for petty trolls

        • GPLDAN

          Johnny loves us. He’ll be back. Irish will be back. MB will be back.

          It’s all good.

          • DaMurph

            Irish, maybe not. I worry bout him, what with the aliens and Rothschilds.

          • Ososfan

            It’s funny cud I enjoyed a lot of the conspiracy theory talk cus I agreed with him at times haha. He went too far at time but that was alright too..

          • DaMurph

            He was one we all wanted to meet, to see if he was really that far out there!

          • GPLDAN

            He was also the funniest poster.

          • Ososfan

            Haha. I would too have liked to meet him and all you guysm I don’t mind the crazy talk at all. I’ve read and heard too much craziness and over the top stuff to be stunned anymore. Makes everything interesting and dope.

          • EnderWiggin

            Will TheGhostOFHalas come back too?

          • GPLDAN

            Only if Jeff creates a Ouija applet.

          • I laughed. Then felt ashamed. Then laughed again.

  • Ososfan

    Also, due to the recent success of the Bears, many fans and pundits forget that Emery was put in a bad situation since the beginning. Gotta Gove him time to give us a relevant team. It’s annoying af that the fans don’t realize we had a aging defense without much young talent added in either side of the ball. I think J wood mentioned that most of the draft picks prior to 2011 are not playing the league any more! That crazy, we all should be praising the quick turn-around by Emery and heckler, even freshman and Kromer for what they did with our still sketchy O Line. Let all RELAX and be patient. I think by next year in all honesty we will have good amount of pieces to start making it to the playoffs and year by year will be better. Let’s be patient and not lose hope.

    • BillW

      I’ll have what he’s having.

      • BillW

        Meaning I agree about Emery and hope you’re right about the others. (Who’s “heckler”?)

        • Ososfan

          Thanks. Hahaha I meant to type “heck” and “Trestman” Damn auto-correct.

          • BillW

            Oh. I thought it was another nickname for Cutler that I missed!

      • EnderWiggin

        He takes his Kool-Aid orange, with a splash of grape.

  • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

    On another note. Did anybody catch Gruden’s comment on MNF last night when Pittsburgh had a touchdown overturned by replay because the guy’s toes grazed the line? He said, “I used to really love football”

    I get his point. He’s saying that when a ref overturns such a beautiful play, it takes the game out of the game. And I agree to a point. Like the studly Black Unicorn sideline grab earlier in the season that was overturned because it looked like, in replay, that the ball may have moved a millimeter. That kind of shit drives me crazy. But what is ruining the game for me is the fact that this game barely resembles the football of yesteryear. Canada or Murph or somebody said below that when the bears used to suck all those years ago, they still punished the opponent. It’s that exact thing that drew me to the bears all those years ago. My team may not win, but they will make you question your manhood if you want to beat them. They will make you dig down and play through the inevitable pain. They will make you remember playing the bears, win or lose.

    But these days, there’s very little of that left in the NFL. And I can handle the losing, the heckling, the disappointment, the injuries, and all the rest. What I can’t handle is watching the game I love turn into the Arena league where all that matters is points. This kind of thing is ruining the sport I love.

    So I feel ya, Jon Gruden. I used to really love football too. And I’m very thankful you said that on national t.v.

    • DaMurph

      Doc, when the Bears were bad we took solace in the fact that whoever played the Bears, lost the following week because we put a physical whoopin on them.

      • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

        Exactly.

      • Scott W.

        Yeah. I remember those days.

    • BillW

      I’m surprised that didn’t get more attention in the press. He sort of meekly took it back but you knew he meant what he said.

    • I thought the same too, Doc.
      I was watching the game with my step-dad who’s a Bronco fan, so we had no horse in it.
      I said, “What a catch!” and he said, “Yeah, but they’ll probably overturn it.”
      Sure enough, they did. I mean, fuck, when you need satellites to decide a play, damn, don’t know man.

      • BillW

        It wasn’t even clear that the mark was caused by the show or if it was cause by turf thrown up where the foot landed.

        Why didn’t it occur to the ref to go over and actually LOOK at the spot in question to see if there was a divot on the line – or just dirt?

        • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

          They’re not allowed to do that.

    • GPLDAN

      This is a common theme on this blog, as well.

      I haven’t joined in, because I understood the need for the NFL to start changing the game and keeping people away from the head.

      But then, the PF on DJ Williams really chapped my ass in that Carolina game. It wasn’t even close.

      Then Ryan Mundy tagged a Falcon with his helmet, was fined later but no call on the field.

      Then I started to see calls that just seemed arbitrary. Like the Unicorn call.

      That’s when I started to agree that the refs are killing the game. They walked out and the scab refs fucked the game hard, so the NFL capitulated and gave these guys the salary and the benefits they wanted but dumped a whole new set of requirements on them and now? Now there is just wildly inconsistent reffing.

      • I think Jeff tweeted that he stopped watching the Bears-Pack game at half-time because the refs made it un-watchable with bad calls on both teams.

        Don’t know if he was being hyperbolic, but I understand the feeling.

      • DaMurph

        When you have rules that allow men to influence the game by conjecture, it kills the game. Either its clear cut, or if its not dont call it! We all saw obviously dirty play and knew it when we saw it, I dont even see or understand what the fuck they are calling.

    • Cormonster

      I listened to a good interview with Fred Dryer today (former DE, Hunter). He said he doesn’t watch pro football anymore, just college. He said he can’t handle the sloppy play, especially the tackling. No one knows how to tackle anymore because teams rarely if ever practice it. Claimed the game doesn’t resemble the game he played back in the 60’s and 70’s. Side note I never knew about Dryer. He’s the only player to record two safties in the same game. Good trivia question.

      • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

        HUNTER!

    • WP4Life

      I hear you. I live in Denver, CO where Manning is better than the invention of the game itself – makes me sick. I always have liked Elway – I remember when we gave him a beating in ’84 the dude kept getting up. Everybody hear hates culter… – I stopped wearing any bears jerseys for awhile tired of almost going fists to cuffs repeatedly.

    • Scott W.

      For the first time in my life, it’s not impossible for me to imagine the NFL imploding, and shifting to an entirely new kind of game and fan base.
      I never, ever believed that such a thought was possible. Now? Look back a few weeks to the whole Goodell debacle with Ray Rice. Reactionary, press-driven, politically incestuous decisions from the first one to the last. And it carried with it the smell of death.

      Does anyone see an end in sight to the circus the NFL has made itself? Can the clock be turned back or at least reverted to analog?
      I honestly can’t say. I just think we may be witnessing something historic though. Just not in a good way.

      • It’s a symptom of the 24 hours news cycle. It’s been discussed on this blog at length before, but the invention of the 24hrs news cycle has really changed society at almost every level: sports, politics, entertainment, etc

        • Doc Hamstring

          Read Guy DeBord’s “Society of the Spectacle” (you can read it online free if you Google the title). It was written in 1967, but it really nails what we’ve become in the postmodern age.

          “Where the real world changes into simple images, the simple images become real beings and effective motivations of hypnotic behavior. The spectacle, as a tendency to make one see the world by means of various specialized mediations (it can no longer be grasped directly), naturally finds vision to be the privileged human sense which the sense of touch was for other epochs; the most abstract, the most mystifiable sense corresponds to the generalized abstraction of present-day society. But the spectacle is not identifiable with mere gazing, even combined with hearing. It is that which escapes the activity of men, that which escapes reconsideration and correction by their work. It is the opposite of dialogue. Wherever there is independent representation, the spectacle reconstitutes itself.”

          • That’s interesting. I read something along those lines a while back about how internet porn rewires adolescent brains.
            It’s one thing to find a torn page of Amish Porn in a dumpster somewhere.
            It’s another to literally have millions of naked women at a horny teen’s fingertips.
            The abstract, spectacle at play…
            I’ll have to check that guy out.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I hear you, Doc. My latest tirade about Replay is posted above.

  • Trac

    I just spent an hour reading through this afternoons posts. This is not good. I now understand why MB was holding back on lowering the boom on our teams play. When we start venting to regime change after 7 games and 1 lost season, this is what can happen. I don’t know but it even seems like Jeff’s struggling to maintain. Whatever happens here, I’m glad I got to yuk it up with you guys. Waffle, don’t do it man. Every one of us loves the Bears, even Cheesy for without the rivalry, even his existence has less meaning. Let’s just acknowledge that tearing into one another is hurting our opportunity to escape the bs of our daily lives. This is a fun place to come to, surely all of us can realize each other’s weaknesses and show some restraint when commenting. All of us miss the mark from time to time so let’s try to renew the positive aspect of this opportunity to get to know people that if not for this blog, we’d have never had the chance. I’m not going to mention names but some of you guys that want to check out should reconsider. Personally, I have a genuine effection for every one of you. Even our pet troll Cheesy.

    • BerwynBomber

      Cheesy’s harmless/fine. It would be one thing if there were thirty of him on here but one? Hardly worth getting worked up over. He is even occasionally humorous and makes decent points.
      Agree that the regime change is premature. We are 3-4. Not 3-10. Let us see how the next few games play out. NE isn’t all that anymore and despite Rodgers dominating record against us … we usually play him tough and make him earn it. We could be 5-4 after nine games for all I know. Plus, if we get rid of Trestman, are we really going to go thru another “ok, THIS is the coach who will maximize Cutler’s talents” nonsense? I’m already tired of that narrative.

  • Hey, Michael Sam is available once more. Think we should kick the tires on him?
    A bonus: Rodgers would probably let Sam “sack” him a few times (NTTAWWT)

    • BillW

      So the way my posts come up on the phone the latest one (yours) is followed by the very first which is Shady saying “I watched him do it. From behind the goal post. Decked out in ski goggles etc.

      I needed a laugh

  • And Emery breathes a sigh of relief…

    “The Boston Globe reports Patriots RE Chandler Jones has a hip injury that will sideline him “about” one month.

    The out-of-nowhere news is crushing for a Patriots pass rush that’s been anchored by Jones this season. Jones has notched 4.5 of the Pats’ 18 sacks, and been their only consistent generator of heat. This being the Pats, we may not receive an official timetable, but reporter Shalise Manza Young is very reliable. Jones’
    status should be updated when the Pats return to official practice on Wednesday. Jones sat out Tuesday’s informal session. – RotoWorld

    – This is HUGE, esp given our troubles at RT. Also, that takes away the inevitable narrative of Emery drafting Shea over Jones.

    • GPLDAN

      Shae can shine.

      McMannis and Jennings can probably handle the Pats wideouts.

      But we gotta have somebody who can jam and hang with Gronk and Tim Wright. They will kill us.

      Enter the Chicken Coop master.

    • Ososfan

      Jones is still my Facebook friend (for whatever that’s worth) I’ll go thank him right now.

  • BillW

    What I like about this board –
    Questions like ” if you could tell trestman three things…”
    One or two serious responses and a couple jokes and that’s it. I hoped to gain perspective from that but it fizzled

    But cheesy gets post after post of vulgarity and slurs and people beg the poster to back

    Time to search again for a bears fan site

    • GPLDAN

      • BillW

        Good one. I still can laugh at myself. And I can go crazy drunk girl too I guess. I don’t want to leave. (sorry if that disappoints anyone) . I want to talk about the Bears. Or at least football in general. . Not listen to insults and slurs and vulgarity. . Or watch barbie videos

        And I was going to link that with tits and kits but the way it’s going someone would get Mattel on me

        • BillW

          YOU WANT AN F’ING COOKIE??!?

          (whatever that means)

  • BillW

    Hey cheesy. If you are listening. I sort of supported you because I sensed you felt like my dad and uncle taught me about bears Packers – hate the6team,respect the rivalry

  • Trac

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/21/rice-has-filed-grievance-againt-ravens/

    I can’t remember a more insane year in the NFL that this one.

    • eh. The NFL has always been crazy (see Lawrence Taylor); it’s only because of the TMZ coverage it gets now that it appears as if it’s it’s gone off the deep edge.
      Same with “kids now a days”. Ppl have always been crazy (see Ed Gein, Packer Fan).

      • GPLDAN

        Butch gets 45 blog points for randomly inserting Ed Gein into a thread. Had he mentioned lampshades, he could have had a round 50.

        • Plainfield, Wisc. Represent!

          • Cormonster

            Gein, was born in La Crosse County, where I live, so I got that going for me. Been through Plainfield many times. The sign coming into town says “Welcome to Plainfield, home of Ed Gein”.

          • Seriously, they advertise that? lol
            Is Plainfield still isolated, or has it become like Transylvania with Dracula, a sorta macabre tourist attraction?

          • Cormonster

            Just kidding. It’s a small little town surrounded by farms. Used to meet friends there coming from elsewhere on snowmobile trips much farther north. Good place to meet up. Never seen anything Gein related.

          • I wouldn’t be surprised. Over here, around Halloween time, a lot of ppl used to sneak into the Sharon Tate mansion in Hollywood.
            One of my friends was dating a girl who thought it would be cool to take him there.
            They went, and my friend swore he would scuttle along the bushes, but heard footsteps behind him. When he stopped to listen. Nothing. He then did his best Speedy Gonzalez impression, and took off.
            I asked, “She didn’t think you looked like a pussy?”
            His exact response, “I don’t give a shit. I was out of there.”

          • Cormonster

            I have lived on the second floor of a huge, old house for almost 20 years. The house was built about 125 years ago. Not long after I moved in, I met a ghost. I never believed in ghosts before and thought it was stupid. She scared the shit out of me the first time I met her in the basement while doing laundry. I was frozen with fear. I couldn’t understand what she was saying other than her name, Abbie. I slowly got over my fear of her after seeing her several times. She ceased to be scary.

            After a month or two I started getting mail with her name on it, Abbie …….I asked my landlady about Abbie. Turns out she was a spinster who lived her entire life in the house, over 70 years, and “ran” the house. Over the next couple years I asked some family members about her. All had fond memories, saying she was a great cook, but also a prude.

            Fast forward a few years. A couple of my older customers say “oh, you live in the such and such house(last name)” Then they ask if I ever met Abbie. I say no, not really. 3 different older customers told me over a couple year period that she was a wild woman and a blast. She was way ahead of her time when it comes to the women’s liberation movement, if you know what I mean. The looks on the old guys faces when talking about her was priceless.

            I haven’t seen her in about 7-8 years. Did she serve her time in Purgatory?

          • Dang. You should send Ghost Hunters over!

          • Cormonster

            It’s Halloween season, but most of that post is true.

          • “Augusta took advantage of the farm’s isolation by turning away outsiders from influencing her sons.[5]
            Edward left the premises only to attend school. Outside of school, he
            spent most of his time doing chores on the farm. Augusta, a fervent Lutheran,
            preached to her boys about the innate immorality of the world, the evil
            of drinking, and the belief that all women were naturally prostitutes and instruments of the devil. She reserved time every afternoon to read to them from the Bible, usually selecting graphic verses from the Old Testament concerning death, murder, and divine retribution.[6]” – Wiki
            See. Old Testament’s turning our kids into skin-wearing serial killas! Censor it!

      • Trac

        Add the Redskins name controversy and Congress getting involved, AP, Irsay, Rice, Rule Changes, bad officiating, Domestic Violence Coverage, Delayed Draft, and what you get is a smorgasbord of freak shows but in my opinion, placing an emphasis on offensive scoring had done more damage to the game than all of the above.

        http://bleacherreport.com/articles/857482-nfl-sell-out-how-pandering-to-the-offense-has-ruined-quality-of-play

  • GPLDAN

    Matt Bowen was on the Score 2nite.

    Here’s his breakdown of Cutler and the 50 yard pic.

    Fish were in a C4 high spread. That means Cutty at the line saw something akin to this:

    http://americanfootballmonthly.com/Subaccess/Magazine/2008/February/images/URI-01F.jpg

    Bennett was on a scissors route, which means he was to cross but was jammed by the backer, so Jay’s read there should be… and this will shock nobody…. Forte dump.

    But Jay sails one over Bennett.

    Bowen’s take? Hubris. Jay’s Hubris. Can’t check it down when there is a moment to use the flesh cannon. That QB 201 teaches you that snapping against C4 you take a 7 route to the sideline or you dump it out to the back. You don’t challenge the middle. Bowen came back to Jay’s inconsistency making fundamental mistakes and thinks he is getting better, but when they play from behind, Jay is much worse than playing from a lead because he starts forcing.

    And the league knows it.

    • BerwynBomber

      As bad as that INT pass was the seven-yard loss of bubble screen to Carey may have been worse. Oh well. I still think if Cutler could produce a little more some of his WTF mistakes could be tolerable. One improvement for Jay this year is that there have been no INTs in the opponent’s RZ or end zone. I don’t remember him going seven games w/out one in the past. A somewhat low bar but I’ll take it.

  • Shady
    • AlbertInTucson

      “There’s no substitute for experience.”

  • AlbertInTucson

    Regarding the Replay discussion…

    I submit that they should not allow slo-mo replays.

    You can replay it in real time only and you have 20 seconds to look at it and no more.

    There should be 1 replay official at the game to make the call. Not the field Ref and certainly not the schmucks in New York. Going under the hood or to New York is a complete and unnecessary waste of time. The Replay Guy on site looks at it a couple of times and we move on.

    This whole concept of studying plays frame by frame under a microscope like it was DNA from a crime scene is for the birds.

    • BerwynBomber

      So long as the technology/communication is stable I would prefer the replay official not be at the game. The field officials can be cowed enough by home crowds. I would rather not add the “objective” guy to their mix.

      • AlbertInTucson

        We disagree on that point.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Blogfather tweet: “Jason Robards as Ben Bradlee in All the President’s Men is my indelible image of what a journalistic bastion should be.”

    A great portrayal by a great actor.

    But like most movies, it’s just a fantasy.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Blogfather tweet; “ESPN Mag publishes scathing story on Kobe & then ESPN spends all day having talent comment on story, thus promoting it. Well oiled machine.”

    Oh no, Kobe Bryant is a self-serving S.O.B? Say it ain’t so?

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