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Game Preview Addendum: Opportunity for Holmes, Unicorn v. Willis, Special Teams!

| September 12th, 2014

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Four additional thoughts as we head towards San Francisco:

  • If Alshon Jeffery does not play Sunday night, and all evidence seems to be pointing in that direction, attention shifts to two individuals: Martellus Bennett and Santonio Holmes. Bennett looked like one of the better tight end receiving threats in the league in week one and his rapport with Cutler seems to have grown precipitously in their second off-season together. Holmes came to Chicago to rejuvenate a self-sabotaged career and never will have a better opportunity to showcase that rejuvenation than in prime time against one of the better teams in the league.
  • Matt Maiocco at CSN Bay Area breaks down the matchup between Bennett and Niners linebacker Patrick Willis:

Tale of the tape
Willis (52): 6 foot 1, 240 pounds, eighth season, Mississippi
Bennett (83): 6 foot 6, 265 pounds, seventh season, Texas A&M

Willis returned to the mike linebacker position this season, taking over NaVorro Bowman’s old role. He found himself in coverage against Dallas tight end Jason Witten in the season opener.

Willis came through with a big day, holding Witten to just two catches for 14 yards and providing a big play with an interception in the end zone.

“I feel like we did a decent job, but I always feel like we can be better,” Willis said. “I always feel like I can be better.

“There were times I could’ve played a little tighter. Every week is a challenge, and I won’t tell you something I wake up looking forward to every day is going out there and covering, but we do what needs to be done.”

Visiting the 49ers in the inaugural game at their new Levi’s Stadium was going to be difficult enough without injuries to five first-stringers on offense. The Bears, then, are counting on Cutler to be a stabilizing presence amid the personnel uncertainty.

“Just be on my game,” Cutler said.

“And just keep … everyone moving because ultimately those guys are going to mess up from time to time,” he said. “We’re going to line up wrong. So it’s just staying calm, keep an eye on the play clock and make sure we stay in rhythm.”

  • Bears need a big performance on special teams Sunday night. Get something from the return. Limit return options for the Niners. Make every field goal. Pin them deep a few times. A shaky performance from the third phase will hamstring any chance the Bears have of pulling the upset.

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  • http://www.upitpuppet.com/ evantonio

    my first thought is “crap. this is going to suck.”

    • http://www.upitpuppet.com/ evantonio

      my second thought is, “shut up, stache. bears 63, 49ers 3”

      • Trac

        Stop being so negative. Haha

  • Big Mike

    I’m hoping we avoid a blow out. Nothing points to the Bears this week. Road team, History, Injuries, Just don’t see anything good. I’m counting on one of those epic performances, by unexpected contributors.

    To Jeff’s point on special teams, I’m just curious, what has he seen that indicates this unit is at best average?

    • Trac

      Hope Mike, there is hope. A week does not a season make. At least that’s what MB tells me. He he.

      • Big Mike

        The season isn’t the question. I’m just trying to figure out how I feel about this team. It’s not an inspiring group. Who do you rally behind? Where are the heroes? Players need to step up.

        • Trac

          A star is born? Sometimes the process creates opportunity for a leader to emerge. King Arthur watched a spider rebuild its web before he rose from defeat. Wish that story was true.

        • SC Dave

          Matt Forte.

          • Big Mike

            Good one.

    • DaBearsBlog

      They have a great FG kicker, a darn good punter and their coverage units were excellent in week one….

      • Big Mike

        Slowly, Slowly… get Big Mike down from the ledge.

  • Shady

    You’ve now written two game previews and neither has mentioned turnovers as a key to the game. It is literally the only way the Bears have a chance at winning Sunday Night.

    • Trac

      There is also another way. The Bears could remove kapernick from the equation early with a bone crushing hit on him of Biblical proportions. No doubt we will be playing the role of giants slayers. Not really but you get the picture.

      Bear down.

      • Big Mike

        Or the Bears are better than they looked and you can believe all the hype about Young, Williams, Allen, Ferguson, Sutton, Ratliffe, And Cutler is a $100 million QB and doesn’t need 2 pro bowl WRs a top tight end and Matt Forte to do damage. Time for him to step the fuck up.

    • DaBearsBlog

      Turnovers decide every game. That’s like writing, “Bears need to stop the run and force the Niners into long third downs.” Well…no shit.

      Don’t think this Niners team is all that great.

      • Shady

        I’d rather you discuss golf and NASCAR than the Bears special teams. But serially, who’s winning the FedEx Cup and the MyAfibStory.com 400 in Chicago this weekend?

        • DaBearsBlog

          You mean the Bears special teams that won the team 2 dozen games over 10 years.

          • Shady

            Hyperbole aside, I’d love to wax nostalgic with you about the Dave Toub era. But this current group of misfits? I mean, we don’t even have a damn kick returner.

            #decamel

          • DaBearsBlog

            Wildly overrated how poor this group has been. they struggled early last year but actually were among the best coverage units in the sport for second half of season. they have solved their punter issue and fg has never been an issue.

            no they don’t have a return man. but they just came off ten years of the greatest return man ever. so maybe…give them a year?

          • MB30SD

            we just resigned cwilliams, so we have our return man.

            Let’s see what decamel can do.

          • Shady

            C Will was signed to the P Squad because the Bears top three WRs were injured last week. I doubt he’ll return much of anything on Sunday. Not even sure he’ll be active.

            I’m really not as concerned with the returner as the unit as a whole. While Decamel isn’t debest coordinator, he honestly doesn’t have much to work with. It’s not a coincidence that the teams with the best specials in the league also have good defenses. It takes a certain kind of player mentality to excel at special teams, a mentality mainly found in defensive players. Right now the Bears have trouble finding players to start on defense, let alone ones Decamel can poach to fill out a decent squad. Honestly, the best thing the unit has going for it is the fact most kickoffs go through the back of the end zone anyway.

          • SC Dave

            Still a little concerned, Jeff, with the new long snapper and holder and how that will affect Robbie’s FG attempts. Not worried one iota about Gould himself though.

      • Peanut FTW

        In high school we had a guy do a skit for our HS football team on Keys to the Game. He was a real character and did this over the top thing about how on Offense, we want to move the ball, get 1st downs and score. On Defense we really want to stop the other team from moving the ball and getting first downs. And the biggest key was to score at least one more point than the other team.
        He went waaaaay more into detail and was dramatic and was so funny. The amazing thing is that at least 32 people make their living doing this every week and the script doesn’t really change.

  • Trac

    Jeff, The 1% ers have their own city.

  • Big Mike

    I need this a$$hole to be wrong.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11505329/flem-file-chicago-bears-quarterback-jay-cutler-never-just-right
    He needs perfect coaching? After Bountygate (yet another shining
    example of Roger Goodell’s leadership and sliding, slippery scale of
    morality), Drew Brees
    lost his offensive playcaller, best friend and head coach for an entire
    season, and he still threw for 5,177 yards and 43 touchdowns. Cutler
    needs perfect protection? Aaron Rodgers
    won a Super Bowl with a dozen or so starters on injured reserve. Cutler
    needs perfect pass-catchers? There have been long stretches during Tom Brady’s
    Hall of Fame career when his receiving corps looked like something Bill
    Belichick picked up on the Island of Misfit Toys. Cutler needs a better
    defense? Eli Manning won a Super Bowl in 2011 with the sixth-worst defense in the league.

    So I was racking my brain trying to think of a name for whatever
    it is that afflicts Cutler when I realized the Bears have given him
    everything he has ever asked for, and yet somehow Mr. Grumpypants still
    isn’t satisfied or comfortable or the least bit grateful.

    Just look at the laundry list of coaches and offensive
    coordinators he’s burned through over the years: Mike Shanahan was too
    old school; Josh McDaniels was too new school; Ron Turner was too
    collegial; Mike Martz too complicated; Mike Tice was not complicated
    enough; Lovie Smith was too defensive-minded. But Marc Trestman, oh,
    Marc Trestman was gonna be juuuuust right.

    And then it hit me.

    Jay Cutler has GLD, Goldilocks Disorder.
    The Bears (get it?) and their fans can continue to provide all the expensive, soft, cushiony support they can muster for Cutle

    • Trac
      • Big Mike

        yeah, that’s what it sounds like.

    • Shady

      Somebody didn’t get the 1-on-1 interview they requested with the Cutler.

      • Big Mike

        I just want him to be wrong. Because I think Cutler can be great.

    • GPLDAN

      You’re like Churchill going on the radio and daring the Germans to bomb London.

      • Big Mike

        He just said in his article, all of my deepest fears about Cutler. I have to stop reading. 🙂

    • Trac

      Ok. Good. Did you feed zippy today?

      • Big Mike

        I need a snickers.

    • CanadaBear

      No matter how pissed I get at Cutler, this piece (and I do mean piece) couldn’t possibly be more slanted if it tried.

      • Big Mike

        It’s all of our worst case scenarios…

        • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

          in a nut shell, who is cutler? as a QB of course, those fears you jotted down are the same I have been feared since he has been here.

    • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

      i stopped reading after he somehow blamed Cutler for Mike Shanahan being fired. Unreal that people get to write this stuff.
      I find it funny that when a player is finally afforded some support to achieve success it’s actually used against him somehow.
      I don’t think a QB has ever taken more shit for a 350yd 70% completion performance with 2 TD’s and 2 INT’s. Luck just did it and was being praised for his “grit”.
      I have given up on it hence the calm nature of this post.

      • Big Mike

        I hear you. But playing the Devil’s advocate in 2 seasons Andrew Luck has the same number of playoff wins as Cutler. He took a 2-14 team and made it 11-5. Lots of issues with the comparison, but when does Cutler step up.

        I argue emphatically that it is this year. If not, he’s just a guy. This week would be nice.

        • Trac

          The regular guy is my hero in life.

          • Big Mike

            Ok, you got me. I’m talking about “hero” in purely the most limited sports based connotation. As in who will win this game for the Bears.

          • Trac

            I loved Jim Miller and Kyle Orton because they were all heart and not spectacular. To be fair, Jay has been portrayed as something he’s not. That doesn’t mean he can’t find himself and win games for us in a manner that will captivate Bear fans. Jay has work to do in this area and that can be a good thing.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            Jim Miller and Kyle Orton are all heart? stop yourself.
            I’m trying to sign off for the weekend and you guys keep dragging me back in with crazy fucking crazy talk.

          • GPLDAN

            Johnny,

            Here is Tony Soprano vs. Doctor Who

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwGZinTeodc

            Enjoy.

          • Trac

            C’mon man, stop it. They were the little trains that did. Has nothing to do with how I view Jay.

            Addendum : there’s a good chance we’d have won the SB when we played the colts with Orton behind center.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            I didn’t say it did. You guys are being crazy. I’m going to need you to jog your memory of how the 2008 season went. Also, even though he was a rookie. Please look up his 9 TD, 13INT 12 Fumble 2005 season that everyone forgets yet somehow glorifies him for. 50% completion rate? What fucking twilight zone have I wandered into? ARGGGGGHHHHHH!

          • Trac

            A sports icon wins the heart of fans. Jay hasn’t done that because the were sold a Lamborghini that isn’t firing on all cylinders. Orton and Miller were never billed as Lamborghini’s.

        • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

          Bro, number one he plays in the AFC fucking south with the Texans, Jags and Titans.
          Number 2 he took a team that historically fucking killed their division but had Curtis Painter at QB the year the went 2-14. The year before that they were 10-6 and won the AFC south. then Peyton got hurt and missed 2011.

          • Big Mike

            I know, I know. I said “lots of issues with the comparison”. My point remains. What has Cutler done? … not “What are the reasons (I argue legitimate reasons) that Cutler hasn’t accomplished a lot/more”?

            He has to get it done this year. Or he’s just a guy playing QB with incredible talent, but little to show for it. The excuses are removed. 16 games to the season. He flubbed the first game (nice stats, didn’t win, made the biggest (arguably) mistake of the game. On to game 2. What’s he going to do. A) Lead the team to victory, B) Be the reason the Bear lose, or C) Play ok, while the Bears still lose?

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            I don’t know Mike, I think since the nation found a way to pin a loss squarely on an interception at the opponents 31 on a play that had offensive pass interference on it anyway because the WR was fucking blocking instead of clearing out his zone and that still required the other team to drive 70fucking yards in 4 minutes to score and then have the bears drive right back 75 yards and kick a field goal and then lose in overtime that I think it’s safe to say that the answer is (D) No matter what happens, if the Bears lose it’s Cutlers fault regardless of what happens in the game,who plays, etc.
            Seriously, are you guys mentally challenged when it comes to this subject? Did you fucking watch the bears from 2009 to 2012? Did you see the fucking personnel and schemes? Did you see the GM fail miserably at replenishing the D with actual playmakers as the other grew old and ineffective, did you see the GM draft or acquire offensive talent, on the line or otherwise? Stop referencing years that have literally nothing to do with the current year as some sort of basis for your comments.
            Let’s just watch the games without quoting trends from the 90’s about win totals in San Fran or what happened in 2009 or Cutlers attitude in 2011 towards Rick Reilly, or how Peyton Manning or other guys that are GOING TO THE HALL OF FAME, perform after playing in the same system for 8 years, their entire career, etc while playing with pro bowlers year in and year out, coaches that are considered future hall of famers, etc.
            Even guys that have all of this organizational consistency fail to win the superbowl or go deep in the playoffs because the league is more than just stats and percentages. Your TEAM has to be fucking sound. The ball has to bounce your way sometimes. You have to avoid the injury bug at key times. It’s not one fucking guy, it’s never been one fucking guy and it will never be one fucking guy.

            #You’vebeenJericho’d

          • Big Mike

            I don’t know what you are reading that I posted. I’ve said nothing about the 90s, I’m 100% in agreement that Cutler had a raw deal here in Chicago, with no line, talent or scheme. I’ve not set the bar at winning the Super Bowl, or even winning a playoff game. My argument is that this is the year for him to step up. In week 1 he did not. I don’t say he lost the game. But he did not “step up” and win the game. You are lumping me in with people that are jumping ship because the Bears lost to Buffalo and Cutler had a brain fart throw, against an otherwise good day. At the same time if he doesn’t throw that pic, his Passer rating is 94.7 and the Bears probably win the game. Even if they don’t win and he doesn’t throw that pick, he’s not the guy under (wrongfully I believe) getting tossed under the bus.

    • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

      I think you answer yourself.

      • Big Mike

        I wasn’t looking for an answer with this post. Making a statement that I need this reporter to be wrong.

        • MB30SD

          hypo-thetical

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    I’d take the ball in this game even if I believe you should always defer, especially in a situation like this with the first game in a new stadium and prime time TV.

  • GPLDAN
    • CanadaBear

      He had a point or two but certainly went over the top. The Briggs restaurant thing is a non-issue and questioning BMarsh’s desire because he does a TV show? If every player on the Bears had the same drive and desire BMarsh has, we would be kicking ass and taking names.

      • GPLDAN

        Telander has long had a bone to pick with the Bears. Having said that, this team is shaping up to be a disappointment so Chicago media blowback is warranted.

    • Trac

      Horespucky?

    • huntinbare

      A few thoughts on Mr. T from Scott Mitchell regarding his abilities with QBs. I like how he equates his ability to teach the stilling of the mind; to his own success. Being the most cerebral player in the offensive unit; who goes into the battle as the one player who does not utilize physical contact as his main weapon; it is imperative that Mr. Cutler get this message of a clear mental state being the primary gate to pass through so that his god given weapons of ability have the most damaging effect upon the opponent. I see a bit of a change happening since Mr. T. got here; but it is not easy taming a wild stallion overnight,,,it is an ongoing battle
      Regarding whipping the players into a frenzy before battle…I look for that role to come from proven veteran leadership….That dynamic should be part of Mr. Emerys job when bringing in players; you gotta get a spirited soul to fill that need.

      http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4694236/scott-mitchell-trestman-best-coach-i-ever-had

      • SC Dave

        Good read here.

      • BillW

        Great thoughts – especially getting players to fill that role of emotional leaders. I would bet all SB Champs had at least one of those on both sides of the ball. The ’85 Bears had several, but in part I think because it’s contagious.

        Olin was one; not sure Ulacher really was.

        You don’t want to try to fake that, and you don’t want to manufacture drama – but a championship caliber team – or one on the road to becoming one – would take the Bills loss and especially the mountains of criticism and turn it into “us against the world” – not “it’s just one game; we’ll be fine;”

  • CanadaBear

    To the ST’s point, the Beloved re-signed Chris Williams. No, not Cookie, the little, speedy WR, KR, PR from the CFL. I’m guessing they don’t want Holmes returning kicks if either Alshon or BMarsh are out. I was bummed when we cut him. He’s one of the few WR’s on the team with elite speed.

    • Shady

      He’s one of the few players anywhere on the roster with elite speed.

      • CanadaBear

        I was choked when we cut him. Of all the WR’s, he offers something totally different. Not to mention we have almost nothing at the returner position.

  • MB30SD

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZeYVIWz99I

    How about some of this motherfucking shit on sunday bitches!

  • Shady

    An ongoing storyline with this game will be the turf. They’ve had to replace it a few times already because it’s been coming up in chunks. I’d say the Bears have experience and an advantage playing on shit fields, reducing the game from speed/quickness to physical/toughness may, MAY, be an advantage. Maybe.

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD

    fuck it, somehow we’re winning this game.*

    * Claims have not been independently verified. Poster is not responsible for any actual outcomes or incorrect prognostications. Post is non-transferable and is the sole property of poster. Written approval is expressly warranted for repost. Fuck the 9ners.

  • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

    I’m signing off until Monday with this thought:
    Any given sunday boys….
    There are still men on this team. There is sick talent and heart and I think it will come out on Sunday night. Limit turnovers and force one or two on them and this is going to be a tight one.
    The 9ers are hurting right now. They are missing key pieces just like us. They are beatable even if it seems impossible. I’ll see you on the beach.

  • johnnywad

    I could not give a smaller fuck that the Niners are opening a new season. How does this make them better at football? If anything, its got to be a distraction.

  • huntinbare

    Unicorns and Texas A&M are trending….but it is my hope that Jay sets off Mr. Forte on a record breaking night….A slow methodical humiliation drive after drive; with multiple 3rd down conversions…..enough so Mr. Harbuagh’s hair is set on fire and the blazing sparks emitting from his cranium light up the San Francisco night. Hey it is a new stadium and they always have a fireworks show…..There is a great historical dynamic at work right now…May we make this chapter one for the ages.

  • MB30SD
  • BillW

    I’m late to this discussion but re that article about Cutler – I really don’t recall Cutler ever complaining about any coordinator or lack of O-line or receivers. People read his body language and assume things. Yeah, he shoved Webb and told him to get his head in the game. Months later Webb himself said he sometimes loses concentration or something like that. Cutler took dozens of sacks and never called out his line or coordinator publicly except that one time and another time with Martz (who kept calling plays everyone but him knew they couldn’t execute.

    So Jay Cutler isn’t Rodgers or maybe not even Andrew Luck. Did CUTLER ever compare himself to those QBs? Or is it a case of the media raising expectations so they cut down the guy that didn’t fulfill them.

    Really – there is one tendency he has that I hate that led to the 2nd INT. That is literally the guy’s only weakness. Now he may not be able to make the guys around him better like the writer’s examples seem to imply other QBs can – but again, CUTLER never claimed to have that ability. Not sure too many other QBs do anyway.

    So what’s the point? I really can’t see any except it’s fun to try to knock down people who won’t kiss your ass? Becuase Cutler correctly has concluded that literally 9 out of 10 writers are bigger jerks than he himself is portrayed to be?

    I like Trestman but don’t think much of him as a HEAD coach. Ditka would take this shit about Cutler and shove it right back up that reporter’s ass.

    “Get your mouth shut!!!”

    • Trac

      Bingo.

    • GPLDAN

      Ditka would take this shit about Cutler and shove it right back up that reporter’s ass.

      You must have dabbled w. LSD down there in Hyde Park. Because the Ditka we all knew would have barrelled out red faced on the field and screamed his fucking lungs out at Cutler, following him to the bench with spittle flying until Jay either went Tomczak to therapy or Harbaugh into a fisted rage at Ditka. And the media wouldn’t really roast Jay any further because they all witnessed Ditka’s tirade in public for themselves.

      • Big Mike

        Ditka was nearly cartoon like.. 🙂

        • BillW

          Happens to many – they become caricatures of themselves once they are popular

        • SC Dave

          Ditka was and is, in many ways, a joke. I’ve never understood the idolatry about him.

          As a player, he was great. As a coach, not so much.

          • BillW

            He followed Neill Armstrong who ran a country club. Got some tough players and made them proud to be Bears. In a back-ass way Forrest Gregg helped too. The main thing is those guys were damn proud to be CHICAGO BEARS. Fair or not, I credit Ditka with that.

      • BerwynBomber

        Agreed. Ditka and Cutler would have been a terrible marriage.

      • BillW

        Your point is well taken – as he did with Harbaugh on national TV. My only point is I believe a good coach keeps that stuff in the family – even if it’s public. Like a Dad screaming at his kid but then jumping on anyone who dares to join in.

        In other words – as you say – the media would lay off becuase they’d have Ditka to deal with.

        It’s gotten to the point where Jay is being bullied in the media. I truly believe he really doesn’t care. I truly believe it shoudl piss off his coach.

    • Big Mike

      What is needed is that break out game, where he just dominates.

      • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

        maybe Josh Bellamy can help him deliver it.

        • Big Mike

          What happened to Morgan Spurlock?

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            CUT.
            Marshall, Holmes, Morgan, Williams, Bellamy is your crew.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            or worse if Marshall can’t go

          • Big Mike

            I was kidding. Did Williams get activated? He was on the PS. Is Alshon definitely out?

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            hasn’t tested it, I don’t want Alshon out there with the chance to rip his hammy and be out half of the season. Marshall knows his body but Alshon is still learning.
            If i’m Trestman i’m splitting Forte out a lot and doing a lot of work out of the backfield and making the 9ers LB’s play like all pro’s.

          • Big Mike

            I’m good with that. Can’t believe both of them banged up in the same game, with non-contact injuries… sheesh.

      • BillW

        I’d have to go back and see for sure, but I bet he’s had more than one game that commentators called a breakout.

        • Big Mike

          Bill, you are right. He needs one of those again. Lights out play, where he makes everyone around him better.

  • GPLDAN

    When you wonder why owners are defending Goodell, that’s why. They misinterpret the league’s financial success as being Uncle Roger’s doing.

    No they don’t. They interpret correctly. That’s why they are millionaires.

    Roger orchestrated a lockout and a subsequent negotiation with the NFLPA that makes some cosmetic changes to the amount of practices and stopped the season from extending 2 games, but in every other way the NFLPA took a large fisting. The new CBA will be studying at HBS for another full generation as the prototype labor fuck-me deal. And that was mostly Rodger and his boys.

    The owners as a result of that deal, almost ALL (even the fuckwad Bills) have valuations north of $1B.

    They know who played Quarterback for it Jeff. It’s not mis-attribution at all.

    • BillW

      That’s a great observation and very accurate. The average football fan(including me) pays little attention to the details because it’s billionaires vs millionaires. But they did manipulate things quite nicely in their favor and despite what Marc Cuban believes (or hopes) they are not near the saturation point yet.

      Thursday night football on network TV drew very big ratings. One day and three nights of football and the public buys it. And while fans complain about rules and injuries etc we still watch. And join fantasy leagues so we care about Tennessee vs Arizona or whatever matchup would be meaningless otherwise.

      You’re right as much as I hate to realize it – Roger has done EXTREMELY well for the owners without hurting the fan base where it matters (attendance, ratings, merchadise).

      • Big Mike

        There will be Tuesday Practice Squad/Development league games in our future.

        • BillW

          With their own fantasy league? Where do I sign up?

          • Big Mike

            And there are bonus points if your guy gets called up.

      • BillW

        And that means Roger is going nowhere. And this whole thing will blow over. Why? Because it doesn’t seem the players care. Think about this – Roger went from a 2 gamer to saying it should have been a 6 gamer to saying it’s indefinite. And the union let’s him get away with making up the rules as he goes along – without any real process or a union rep involved?

        Could the mayor or school board chief do that to a teacher in Chicago? Or any union worker? The union is a joke – not defending Rice but pick a punishment and stick to it – don’t change with the wind!

        And what company has the CEO involved in all these matters anyway? And what union would LET the CEO be the one and only arbirtator?

        The players union just wants its money – it doesn’t care about justice or fairness either.

        • BerwynBomber

          The players can’t stand Goodell. They’re loving every second of the hot water he now finds himself in.

          • BillW

            But they could add to it by complaining about how the punishment was handled. To scared to look they are soft on domestic violence I guess – but if Roger skates by this he’ll feel more powerful than ever. You’d think the players union would demand a REAL voice in league discipline.

  • johnnywad

    Heard a bit of an interview last night with Jon Bostic. Most importantly, discussed how Reggie Herring is helping him see things. I think his improved showing last Sunday can be attributed to the things he’s learning under Herring. Time will tell, but I think this kid will pan out. I am very interested to see how he plays Sunday night. I think they’ll a big game from him in particular against the run

    • Big Mike

      He needs to wack somebody. Hate hearing about the Bears’ D being soft.

    • MB30SD

      Jeeeeeeees

  • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

    you guys are really bumming me out today. It’s Friday and today is the day to proclaim that Rodgers is dead, we going supe bow and not to sit in the dark room and lament how the season is over.
    Do you guys realize that in 2 days a rival could lose a game? Lose an important player like us? Fuck up like we did?
    The league is a crapshoot on every gameday. Dudes breaks legs in half, tear knees, break fingers on helmets, etc.
    Yeah, we’re banged up but so are the 9ers. Culliver just had a concussion, run the gauntlet at him and scramble his fucking brain for the season. They don’t have Aldon Smith or Bowman. Make Willis run his goddamn ass off covering Bennett. Free up Forte for dumpoffs. Run that little fuck Williams deep and chuck that shit hard, the shitty rules ensure that one of those plays will be a pass interference. Gain of 60…boom.
    The game is winnable. If you think it’s not because the 9ers took advantage of 4 Romo turnovers then you probably failed to watch the Dallas game last year when we gangbanged them.
    Let’s fucking do this! Who’s with me??? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

    • MB30SD

      Me

      • Trac

        There’s no me in team?

    • BerwynBomber

      Agreed. I’m not sold the Niners will be what they were the last two years. Yeah, they annihilated Dallas but Dallas might be one of the worst teams in the league this year, especially if Romo looks like he should be in street clothes. I don’t know if we will win but I would not be shocked if we are competitive throughout. Gotta imagine everyone will be putting forth their best game after the Buffalo debacle.

    • Big Mike

      I watched Dallas/SF, Dallas is turrible. The 17 they scored were all accidents.

      • MB30SD

        dallas is putrid. Romo is going to get cracked in half if he’s not careful.

        That said SF’s D still looks pretty aggressive and their o is slippery. Gore is a load and kap is a shifty fuck. We need fuller or timmy to play spy all game and hit the shit out of kap on every play it’s legal.

    • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

      Detroit vs Carolina
      Minny vs New England
      Green Bay vs Jets
      Philly vs Indy
      Dallas vs Tenn
      Arizona vs Giants
      So much can happen in these games that would help negate what happened last week. shit will happen here, it’s just a matter of what kind of shit.
      What if Carolina’s D plays lights out and Lions lose?
      What if New England trounces Minny?
      What if Muhammad Wilkerson puts Rodgers in a fucking box or Lacy’s brain comes out of this head?
      What if Luck doesn’t throw multiple INT’s and the Colts beat Philly?
      What if Bryant tweaks a hammy or hurts his hand vs TENN?
      What if Jordan Palmer or Peterson or a WR gets hurt?
      Anything can happen and if you combine that with a Bears win over San Fran or a bad ass game that proves we can hang then it’s still game fucking on.

      • SC Dave

        Regardless of the score Sunday night, it’s game on. The NFL is a marathon, with a sprint called playoffs at the end. I’m okay if the Bears play the tortoise.

        • MB30SD

          THIIIIS!

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            Theeeeeeeeeeeeece!

    • http://www.upitpuppet.com/ evantonio

      Kaepernik. DEAD.
      Crabtree. DEAD.
      Boldin. DEAD.
      Davis. DEAD.
      Gore. DEAD.
      Harbaugh. ONLY KNOCKED UNCONSCIOUS BECAUSE HE’S STILL A BEAR AT HEART.

      • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

        lol, when you name all of their weapons in a row it doesn’t help my optimism.

        • http://www.upitpuppet.com/ evantonio

          but they’re all gonna die. that’s good, right?

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            yes, quite.

        • MB30SD

          I still have a huge football man crush on boldin. Guy is still such a stud when according to media he’s supposed to be rotting in an old folks home

    • SC Dave

      I’m in. I predicted a win on the first thread about this week’s game, and I’m sticking with 34-30 good guys.

  • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

    lol, as I optimistically pump myself up for this weekend because even if we miss brandon and alshon that Josh Morgan is still a quality WR and can play well…..

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/12/alshon-jeffery-practices-isnt-sure-if-hell-play/

    Morgan out. Jesus.

    • GPLDAN

      Maybe Michigan can snag Harbaugh before Sunday since Hoke is a Joke.

      http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/07/harbaugh-watch-begins-in-ann-arbor/

      • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

        maybe Harbaugh could leave and on his way out accidentally close the office door on Kap’s hand. Oops!

    • MB30SD

      my god man.

      Fuck me… looks like it’s the O’s turn this year. SMFH.

      • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

        I would be cool with Holmes, Morgan, Bellamy, Forte and Bennett for a week. Morgan could start on a couple teams in this league. I think I saw him jump 4 feet in the air for a pass last week.

  • MB30SD
  • bearsfantillend

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Goodell got zillion dollars from CBS for a Thursday night package that has consistently produced awful, awful football games & huge ratings.

    Goodell could have sold the rights to Thursday night package to the Home Shopping Network and had the game on at 3am right between infomercials of velvet oven-mitts and a fishing lure that dances and sings. The football would still be awful and still get huge ratings.

    • MB30SD

      Ohhhh… I have the velvet oven-mitts. REALLY nice product.

      • GPLDAN

        You employ those with the ladies?

        #smoothmoves

        • MB30SD

          Their logo says it all my maings: http://www.minkglove.com/

          Worth erra penny. (you just have to make sure that you air them out between girls or they ask about ‘that other perfume smell’)

  • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

    I’ve been pretty busy enjoying the last few days of sunshine in the great Pacific Northwest, so forgive me if you’ve already covered this topic ad nauseum but I have a few comments/questions regarding the Ray Rice situation.

    First, let me run through the timeline.

    Ray Rice is caught on a hotel hallway video camera dragging his unconscious girlfriend out of an elevator last spring I think. Everybody knew at that time that domestic violence had been committed in the elevator.

    So Roger eventually suspends Ray Rice for 2 games. Roger, subsequently is made to understand by just about everybody that the punishment was too lenient. So, realizing he must save face he issues a league wide domestic violence policy; 6 games for a first offense and lifetime ban thereafter. Okay good, everybody is happy with Rogers new stance.

    Then, this Monday, people are able to see what went on in the elevator and a worldwide uproar ensues. And while what he did is disturbing and all that, this is the first issue about which I need clarification. Namely, everybody already knew must have happened in the elevator. Why does seeing it, change anything? What exactly did people think happened in the elevator if not that? Isn’t what he did the very definition of domestic violence? As far as I could tell, he punched her, what twice, and then she was out cold. Again, I get that this is bad stuff, but as far as I could tell, it’s exactly what I assumed happened in the elevator. On Monday, before I saw said video, I heard all the uproar on sports radio. The uproar was so loud I assumed he did something beyond punching her out. I mean, we had all seen the video of him dragging her unconscious body out, so we already knew it must have been bad. I guess the problem I’m having is how does seeing what he did make it worse if we already knew what he did? Basically, hearing the uproar before seeing the video led me to believe that what went on in the elevator was much worse than what I saw on the video. Again, WE ALREADY KNEW HE KNOCKED HER OUT! Did people think he hugged her unconscious?

    Okay so, after seeing the video and hearing the uproar the Ravens cut him and Roger suspends him indefinitely. And this is the second point about which I need clarification. Isn’t this still Ray Rice’s first offense? So why the indefinite suspension? Did Roger think he tickled her unconscious? Didn’t he already suspend him for two games? And then didn’t he create the 6 game first offense policy? So, does being reminded of the abuse six months after the fact serve as a second offense? I’m so confused. And I still don’t get what the Ravens and Roger Goodell saw in the elevator that was so different then what we all knew he did? Why cut him after the release of the second video but not after the release of the first? WE COULD TELL BY THE FIRST VIDEO THAT HE DID EXACTLY WHAT WAS SHOWN ON THE SECOND VIDEO? Am I missing something? It’s not like the second video shows him carving a pentagram into her belly. It shows him knocking her out. AND WE ALREADY KNEW THIS!

    Somebody help me out here. I’m so confused.

    • MB30SD

      one word my good doctor

      video. evidence.

      • Trac

        Yeah man.

    • GPLDAN

      It’s simple:

      It’s not the crime, it’s the cover-up.

      Nothing in that timeline matters, really, This ISN’T about Rice at all.

      It’s about the FBI handing over evidence to the NFL as part of a request, the NFL’s own internal counsel deciding, under duress from the Ravens lawyers not to allow Rice to miss the season, to work some deal for a wrist-slap.

      That’s all well and good. It fact, had Roger said, we SAW the tape, and here is what we should do: move the suspension from 2 games to 6 games because it’s his first infraction he probably could have stepped up.

      But he was afraid to alienate women en masse. His lawyers decided to deny, deny deny.

      And you know what? Law enforcement, when asked to provide evidence in an investigation to a private firm that employs a suspect, often does not comply. But the NFL has lots of friends in the FBI.

      You know what friends don’t like? When you shit on their friendship. Law enforcement decided it didn’t much appreciate that Rodger lied about the tape.

      So now – it’s about the tape. It stopped being about Rice long ago. It’s no longer even about domestic violence. It’s about the FBI sending a message to the NFL about the under the table arrangement they have. Don’t lie about having things. If you do, we will roast you.

    • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

      I’m glad you brought this up. As a culture we are so used to reading and hearing euphemisms, media speak and specific legal phrasing for the most heinous acts. it is when those acts are seen that the true horrific nature of the crime is revealed and hence the strong reactions in people.
      I’m going to get graphic here because this concept really pisses me off to the point that I would kill over it I think.
      When people say a little girl or boy was sexually abused or sexually battered or molested the actual act and resulting pain and suffering by that child would drive you to fucking tears of rage. Imagine a little kid getting ripped apart by some fucking predator. That’s a lot different than sexually molested or battered isn’t it?
      When someone is “physically assaulted” you think of stylized violence or brush it off as some brief encounter until you see what it looks like when someone gets their fucking face caved in. A pregnant mom being drilled in the fucking head as part of some hoodrat knockout game.
      Teens or anyone for that matter pretty much rioting and fucking up innocent citizens etc , it happens all of the time and it’s reported in such a vanilla fashion that you have no idea until you watch the video of someone getting pulled out of a car and having their head stomped in by a group of people.
      We think we are sensitive to this kind of violence but we are desensitized to the way it’s reported. Then we see it for what it is and it’s fucking disgusting and traumatic and our reactions are strong. I believe in this case that was the final straw. Seeing the actual brutal act.

      • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

        and the coverup by an powerful and money laden organization and seemingly by Goodell who makes 40mil a year and does a job that every plumber thinks he can do. I’m sure that plays a part in the outrage.

      • Big Mike

        The visualization makes it dramatically more real. Minimizing the crime with watered down language is a big problem. When confronted with visual evidence of assault the problem is raw.

        Judges (and Goodell is in fact the Judge here) are supposed to see through the watered down language and make impartial decisions.

        In this case the NFL can’t get out of its own way and develop consistency.

      • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

        That’s kind of what wife my wife thinks too. So that sort of answers one of my questions. Now what about the indefinite suspension. It’s still his first offense, no?

        • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

          I think it will end up being 6 games. There was a report that Goodell made it 2 games because of Janay’s involvement in the discussions with him. I don’t know but I do know that when the public demanded a stiffer penalty old Roger knew he had come up a little short on the amount of time compared to the other punishments that players endure.
          2 just looked terrible just like indefinite looks terrible when a 6 gamer is in place.

          • SC Dave

            Roger came up a little short. .. that’s what she said

      • Sactowns#1

        Step away from the window. You are safer now than you ever have been in the history of this nation. Your wives and childeren are MUCH safer now than they ever have been. The 24 hour news cycle is doing what its intended to do, sensationalize and turn man against man. Make people fear eachother and they wont fear the truly scary ones in power.

        • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

          Sac, I was just explaining why the blowback was so hard on Goodell when the video came out.
          Also, don’t spoil the plot of Captain America 2, some people haven’t seen it.
          lol, i’m safe in my neighborhood. Everyone is packing crazy heat and people that come into our neighborhood to take know the risks that they might not come out.

        • SC Dave

          So so so so so this… the American Gestapo ascends

        • Trac

          The definition of safe is subjective. Don’t buy this at tall. We are more comfortable (fat, dumb & happy) than at any time in our nations history. Big diff.

      • SC Dave

        The curse of 24 news, the worst cultural disaster of my lifetime, is exactly this desensitization

        • Trac

          It’s more than that. The definition of the word “news” should be changed.

    • Trac

      Once people have the solid proof/evidence needed to come to a judgement, they don’t have trouble announcing their verdict. Hearsay does not have the same effect on people and barring the video footage that paints a much clearer picture, you’re going to get two totally different reactions which is exactly what we see in he Ray Rice incident.

      Heres a fantastic example and to be clear, this is a totally hypothetical example.(wink, wink)

      Example: Your wife finds out through a friend that you were seen groping a student and when she presses you about it, you admit that you did indeed screw up and stick your tongue down some hot students throat but that it was not as bad as it’s being made out to be by explaining that it was a weak moment which will never happen again. Your wife makes you sleep on the couch for a couple of weeks but eventually after much gnashing of teeth, she lets up and stops giving you the cold shoulder. She rationalizes it was a stupid mistake but that in the end, you’re not such a bad guy and things settle down but she never forgets.

      Then a couple of months later, while riffling through your personal belongings(remember now, they never forget), she comes across pictures of you in the buff with nothing but your Bears cap on, tickling your little hotties fancy and a totally different image emerges replacing the one she had.

      You come home only to find your personal belongings strewn about on the front lawn and the locks to the house have been changed. Capiche pisano?

      • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

        Interesting example. And by the way, I would have been crucified the first time.

        I get your point.

        So Roger should amend his policy to two games if you did it, indefinite suspension if we see you do it.

        Ridiculous.

        • Trac

          Not really ridiculous when the take into account human nature instead of looking at it as purely a mathematical exercise.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            My point exactly. We can’t have Roger Goodell trying to manage this league in the same manner my wife manages her emotions. Not gonna work.

          • Trac

            It’s actually both I think.

        • Trac

          If video footage would have been available of Monica polishing Bubba’s knob while on the phone with Arafat, Hillary may not have stood by her man.

        • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

          @BallsMemorialized

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            @BallsEulogized

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            …His balls were a good balls. Never heard his balls say a negative word. I’ll always remember those times when ol’ Johnny would force them boys into a lake full of icy cold glacier water. Them boys would retreat up into their sanctuary and wouldn’t come out til Johnny had ’em resting on the sofa the next morning. But ya know, they always came back out for a good taint-slappin’. Yep, them balls were a good balls.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            IF that means what I think it means, then may they rest in peace.

          • CanadaBear

            Johnny if you got the bullets taken out of your gun, Congrats! You won’t regret it.

        • Trac

          Courts do it all the time.

      • huntinbare

        would there be any good Bears memorabilia/ gear by the street that say….a passerby might assume was left out for the weekly trash pickup?

  • Viva

    You are all a bunch of good mother fuckers.
    Bear Down!
    GET SOME!

    • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

      i’m pumped for our game and to see our rivals lose theirs.
      #TradeWind optimism

    • GPLDAN

      Da Bears Blog: Home of good mother fuckers and Jeff since 2005.

  • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

    Dude, Goodell, what the fuck?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/12/chris-conte-fined-22050-for-hit-against-bills/#comment-3627491

    Conte got fined for that hit on Woods to the tune of 22k?
    Spikes got fined for 8K for the hit on Holmes lying on the ground that almost broke his neck in half.
    This is so fucked. God I want to stop watching this league.

    • BillW

      And THIS is why everyone is hoping this Ray Rice stuff gets Goodell to resign. But it won’t happen.

    • SC Dave

      Conte must be cursed by the haters.

      • GPLDAN

        $22k for a hit that didn’t even draw a flag when it happened. Wow.

        • Shady

          Repeat offender. We might actually be better off with that POS Merriweather.

          #onswole

          • AlbertInTucson

            No way. Guy’s a tool and a multiple offender.

        • AlbertInTucson

          “Fine but no flag” happens all the time”.

    • huntinbare

      what did the back get who inflicted the most “SEVERELY M-BEAR-SSSS-ING” blow to Conte’s highlight reel?

      • MB30SD

        Hahahaha… nice one Hunti!

  • BillW

    Doc – the more I’ve been thinking the more I am convinced the union HAS to appeal his suspension despite looking like they are defending a wife/gf beater.

    They can’t let ROger keep moving the goalposts; like he does wifr fines already. They is no correlation or consistency – it’s make it up as he goes. How can the union stnad by and let Roger in effect lay down three different pusnishments for the same crime?

    And if the video makes THAT musch of a difference – then how can he not admit he waqs grossly negligent in not seeing it before he made his decsion?

    And if Ray lied to them and said it was a slap – then THAT can be a reason for further punishment. But there is conflicting reports on that.

    THAT is the mess that’s going on. And as I said in a prior post – it’s nuts that the CEO of the corporation is the one (and only one) making these decisions.

    • BillW

      And despite the spelling errors I’m not going to edit it. It reads like I will sound by halftime Sunday night.

    • AlbertInTucson

      The NFL placated the Union today by mitigating the drug testing and putting several guys back on the field as soon as this Sunday.

  • SC Dave

    By the way, we’re fucking winning Sunday night

    • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

      lol, yes dave, that is the confidence that I want to see. Fuck the 9ers. That’s why you take the damn field!

      • SC Dave

        Fuck yeah!! Same reason we watch the damn shit. I ain’t tuning in and staying up too late to watch a fucking loss. NO WAY, COMPADRE!!

        • Shady

          Tell me you love the Cutler.

          • MB30SD

            TELL ME!!!!

  • BerwynBomber
    • GPLDAN

      That is a fucking bullshit charge by a DA trying to get his name in the papers.

      The Vikings lawyers will make that prosecutor feel some pain.

      • SC Dave

        Taking advantage of the Rice situation?

      • SC Dave

        God.. do lawyers haVe NO SHAME?

      • Shady

        According to some of the details and evidence coming out, it’s not a BS charge.

    • CanadaBear

      That seems ridiculous. He only knew about the child for 2 months before it happened. It was the kid’s mother that brought the monster home. Don’t get this one.

      • Shady

        I don’t think it’s regarding that kid, I think about another, isn’t it?

        • CanadaBear

          You’re right. The first thing I read it sounded like the deceased child. This time it looks like he took a switch (tree branch) to one of his kids for some attitude adjustment. Not good.

          • bearsfantillend

            whats not good? the attitude adjustment or being charged for it?

          • CanadaBear

            I’m OK with discipline for the kid but it sounds like he beat the kid pretty bad. I have no problem with him getting charged if there is a reasonable cause. it sounds like there is.

            I grew up with corporal punishment at home and school, so I’m probably not the “go to” guy when it comes to this subject. Other than a time or two, I didn’t think it was a big deal. However, I was never beaten with switches or any shit like that. Just spanked, slapped and on the odd occasion, a good whack.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yep just recounted the same. I grew up with it too so some of it I shrug off, but yeah, I might not be the most enlightened guy on the planet when it comes to it.

          • bearsfantillend

            i am with you, nothing wrong with whooping your kids for discipline. My dad used a 1×4 as a paddle. and at first i thought this really wasn’t a big deal until i read the Deadspin report

            http://deadspin.com/report-adrian-peterson-indicted-in-child-injury-case-1634160368

            a couple good whacks is one thing, but looking at the pictures, i think he went a little overboard.

          • AlbertInTucson

            It’s just too easy to “go overboard.’

          • AlbertInTucson

            Heaven help the school personnel who thought it was OK to spank my kid.

          • CanadaBear

            I agree Al but it was a different time back then. Plus it was nuns and priests administering the “lesson”. I knew if I went home and bitched about it I would probably face the “What did you do?” questioning. No telling where that would have gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Shady

            Yeah, some of the details coming out sounds bad. Really bad. Like Ray Rice knocking out his fiancee in an elevator bad. And to think the league has known this has been brewing for some time now.

            JUST GETS BETTER AND BETTER DON’T IT?

          • BerwynBomber

            What I’ve read sounds like he used a switch on his son. Guess it is a matter of how often and how old was his son. My old man whipped my ass with a belt when I was five and I was swatted on three different occasions while in junior high by the assistant principal who was also an ex-MP. He used a rubber paddle.
            But different day and age now. For the most part I think that is good but sometimes I wonder.

  • CanadaBear

    Fiametta, Fales and Hayden cut by the Bears. Projected to bring up Taylor Boggs (backup C) and 2 WR’s. I could see Bellamy and Williams getting the call.

    • Trac

      I was spot on with my Fales assessment. Why he made the 53 man roster was a mystery to me.

      • CanadaBear

        I get the QB Whisperer stuff with Trest but just because he was drafted by us doesn’t make him great. Just another guy from the 6th rd as far as I could tell. Oh well.

  • AlbertInTucson

    AP: Deactivated for Sunday.

    • BerwynBomber

      That’s bullshit but I immediately thought that would happen. Goodell, League, and owners are scared as hell of the PR hit in this immediate post-Rice era.

    • Shady

      He should be deactivated for life.

  • Shady

    According to law-enforcement sources, Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson beat his 4-year-old son with a tree branch as a form of punishment this summer, an incident that allegedly resulted in multiple injuries to the child. According to reports, Peterson has been indicted in Montgomery County, Texas for injury to a child.

    The “whooping” – as Peterson put it when interviewed by police – occurred in Spring, Texas, in May. Peterson’s son had pushed another one of Peterson’s children off of a motorbike video game. As punishment, Peterson grabbed a tree branch – which he consistently referred to as a “switch” – removed the leaves and struck the child repeatedly.

    The beating allegedly resulted in numerous injuries to the child, including cuts and bruises to the child’s back, buttocks, ankles, legs and scrotum, along with defensive wounds to the child’s hands. Peterson then texted the boy’s mother, saying that one wound in particular would make her “mad at me about his leg. I got kinda good wit the tail end of the switch.”

    Peterson also allegedly said via text message to the child’s mother that he “felt bad after the fact when I notice the switch was wrapping around hitting I (sic) thigh” and also acknowledged the injury to the child’s scrotum in a text message, saying, “Got him in nuts once I noticed. But I felt so bad, n I’m all tearing that butt up when needed! I start putting them in timeout. N save the whooping for needed memories!”

    In further text messages, Peterson allegedly said, “Never do I go overboard! But all my kids will know, hey daddy has the biggie heart but don’t play no games when it comes to acting right.”

    According to police reports, the child, however, had a slightly different story, telling authorities that “Daddy Peterson hit me on my face.” The child also expressed worry that Peterson would punch him in the face if the child reported the incident to authorities. He also said that he had been hit by a belt and that “there are a lot of belts in Daddy’s closet.” He added that Peterson put leaves in his mouth when he was being hit with the switch while his pants were down. The child told his mother that Peterson “likes belts and switches” and “has a whooping room.”

    http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/09/12/exclusive-details-on-adrian-peterson-indictment-charges/

    • BerwynBomber

      Yep, doesn’t sound like your average paddling.

      • Shady

        The beating allegedly resulted in numerous injuries to the child, including cuts and bruises to the child’s back, buttocks, ankles, legs and scrotum, along with defensive wounds to the child’s hands. Peterson then texted the boy’s mother, saying that one wound in particular would make her “mad at me about his leg. I got kinda good wit the tail end of the switch.”

        FUCKING DISGUSTING.

        The child told his mother that Peterson “likes belts and switches” and “has a whooping room.”

        A ROOM DEDICATED TO BEATING HIS CHILDREN?

        And I actually though he was one of the good guys. This is so sad.

        • BerwynBomber

          Agreed. I actually liked him, even if he balled for a rival. Still, have to let the criminal justice system run its course, and I’m still not a fan of sitting guys until after conviction, although I realize that not gonna happen now.

        • MB30SD

          fuck AP. guess what…. 6 week motherfucker.

          Piece of shit. I could never and have never raised my hand to my children. Not ever once. I couldn’t do it. Just couldn’t. I get upset when I lose it and yell at my kids.

          Sadly this is a product of his upbringing. He doesn’t know any better.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I aways thought he carried himself with class and his rehab of that knee was amazing.

          Just shows to go ya.

    • GPLDAN

      This is fundamentally different than the issue where one of his baby mamas had his kid, and that kid was beaten to death by one of her subsequent boyfriends.

      This new information coming out now about additional children is scathing and terrible. Peterson belongs in prison for that, and let’s hope Goodell shows some balls here and throws him out of the league.

      • MB30SD

        wow, that would be insane man.

  • BerwynBomber

    Can’t say I’m a huge fan of sitting guys for criminal charges before they’ve been convicted, but in this immediate post-Ray Rice world we will see more of it. Btw, am I incorrect that Kobe Bryant never missed a game while being investigated, arrested and tried for rape? A big difference a few years makes as I am sure the Ray Rice effect will bleed into other sports.

    • Shady

      Don’t you worry, Greg Hardy and Ray McDonald will still be playing this Sunday. smh

      • GPLDAN

        Finally Jeff hits the right tone with a tweet.

        The NFL simply needs to stop existing for a week.

        • Trac

          How bout they just erase the last week. We’d be. 0-0.

      • BerwynBomber

        And I’m fine with that, although admittedly I might move from conviction to arrest in terms of when a player should be sat. But regardless, I’d rather have Goodell take his cues from the courts when it comes to criminal matters. The whole due process thing as precedent.

        • Shady

          The Vikings, to their credit, have taken the matter into thier own hands and de-activated him. It had nothing to do with Goodell.

          • BerwynBomber

            And yes I misspoke. I don’t know why Hardy’s playing as he has already been convicted. He’s appealing, of course, but once you have been convicted you lose your presumption of innocence.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I didn’t realize he’d already been convicted. Yikes. THAT looks BAD , Roger. Really, really bad.

          • AlbertInTucson

            It had to do with the fact that an arrest warrant had been issued.

          • Shady

            Greg Hardy and Ray McDonald were arrested, but you don’t see the Panthers or Niners doing anything about it. Give the Vikings credit, even if it may be self serving, they did the right thing.

          • AlbertInTucson

            True. There’s no arguing the incongruety there. I think I have to to lean, heavily, towards “Shame on SF and Carolina.’

      • BerwynBomber

        And in today’s NFL Brandon Marshall would have banned from the league for life.

  • GPLDAN

    There’s a clear way ahead here, and it involves a swift application of justice for AP and removal from the league, the firing of Goodell and the appointment of Condi Rice to spin this forward and some new league policies to move towards a more strict definition of zero tolerance.

  • GPLDAN

    Jeff your 6:42pm tweet is playing with fire and you know it.

    • MB30SD

      yikes!

    • Trac

      Switch is a southern term. Has absolutely nothing to do with race.

      • CanadaBear

        I knew what a switch was growing up in Iowa.

        • Trac

          That tweet of Jeff’s is curious. I figured he’s too much of a Yankee to know it’s not a racist comment.

  • BerwynBomber

    Blogfather, to your tweeted question I have heard of the term before and I’m white. We used to occasionally make them as kids when fucking around by the tracks or woods and would then attempt to use them on each other. (They sting like a MFer and leave welts.) But no, though a recipient of some corporal punishment as a child and adolescent, I was never whipped with a switch by an adult. As someone noted below, this is probably learned behavior that was passed down to AP and regrettably he was not the one to break the pattern.

  • MB30SD

    ok, let’s focus on something good in all this shit.

    Holy fucking SHEITE MUSLIM: http://i.imgur.com/AXwMC5s.gif

  • SC Dave

    Fuck this… ithought it ws a football blog during the season. We need to score on sf the way Cincinnati is on Toledo right now

    • MB30SD

      Dave, how many pints in are you RIGHT NOW?

      • Trac

        Cincy vs Toledo? Oh bruddah!

        • MB30SD

          ahhhh, that makes more sense.

        • SC Dave

          It’s what was on…

          • Trac

            Lol

      • SC Dave

        I’ll admit to “several”

    • AlbertInTucson

      I’d rather be Baylor.

  • huntinbare

    Now batting for the NFL; Roger Goodell. Roger has been in a slump since reporting to training camp and has yet to make good contact through the first week of the regular season. There has been a lot of skepticism regarding decisions he made this past off season, that seem to have hampered his conditioning; and he did not appear to be in great shape when he reported to camp. Usually a proven contact hitter; this season continues to be filled with numerous swings and misses. The past few days he has only reached base by taking a free pass. The owners feel after making multiple adjustments to his stance he is now ready to swing for the fences and knock the next one out of the park; and fill the stands with adoring fans who will continue to spin the turnstiles.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd-o_kLONVI

  • Trac

    Rice and A.P. Have made millions. I have no problem with them losing NFL priveledges once the legal system is finished with them but it’s a slippery slope to start giving everyone the ax when bad decisions are made by imperfect people. Where does it end?

    A lot of us are older and have made our fair share of blunders in life and because we didn’t have microscopes on us like these players do, we were able to learn from them without being hung out to dry like some of these athletes are. My feeling is that the law should deal with them when the shoe fits and as long as we aren’t talking “repeat offenders” , society and the NFL should take that into account before sharpening the guillotine.

    A person can change and not only that, their mistakes can make them a better person when fairness is applied after they pay the piper. An eye for an eye is supposed to mean that the punishment fits the crime and isn’t too excessive or unjust.

    Finger pointing can be a nasty business.

    • GPLDAN

      Go take a look at the pictures of his son’s injuries from the switch.

      As Judge Judy would say:

      http://tinyurl.com/ny4rnxc

      • Trac

        I used to not be able to sit down for days on end. No need to. It’s a terrible thing to lose control while disciplining a child. The scars that remain cause terrible damage to a child later in life sometimes. Trust me, I’m not stupid. I’m just talking about being careful not to get into the habit of overreacting.

        I just brought it up because of all the shit going on in the NFL.

        • huntinbare

          Sadly….Back in the early 80’s I attended some evangelical churches where the style of message was termed “full gospel”. The idea was for the pastor to research the scriptures and bring them to the congregation in the form of a teaching for the Sunday service. I sat under a few teachings by several different preachers that would dig up biblical reference that condoned hitting/spanking as a form of training. We have all heard the infamous…Spare the rod; spoil the child. Certain forms of Christianity still condone this and try to pass it on as a fact.

          • Trac

            For the record, I was not brought up in a Christian home.

        • Shady

          Sorry Trac.

        • CanadaBear

          My mom used to use the dreaded wooden spoon. That fucker stung but she never really cranked up the volume on it. The old man only hit me hard once but it was out of the blue and almost put me out. The most important thing about all this is I knew they loved me. The nuns and priests were another story.

          You’re a good man Trac and I’m really glad to hear you broke the cycle.

          • Trac

            Ah yes, the wooden spoon.

          • MB30SD

            I got the spoon from my mom a few times. Once we got big enough my bro and I would just laugh or overpower her and take it… made her even angrier, but we were fucking nightmares. The ER staff was on a first name basis with us for a while

          • CanadaBear

            My mom stopped using the spoon by the time I was around 10. After that she would ground me to the yard for 2 weeks. That was way worse than the spoon. She would never give any time off for good behavior. 2 weeks meant 2 weeks. Gotta love her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • MB30SD

            damn. hardcore. My max is about 5 minute timeouts… but I usually go in after about 3 minutes to give hugs and kisses and talk to them about why it was wrong and the right way to go about it.

          • AlbertInTucson

            We had a “Board of Education” paddle hanging on the kitchen wall. It it never ‘served in combat.”

          • Cormonster

            Me and my brother got the electric chord once from my Mom after she went hysterical. Afterwards I think it hurt her more than us. My Dad threatened the belt many times, but never used it. When he caught us fighting though, he would grab us both by the hair and bang our heads together a few times. “You want to fight, I’ll make you fight!” After that happened a few times, we never fought again. I also learned not to fight with my cousins at Grandpa’s house. He would make us “kiss and make up” by forcing us to kiss on the lips real quick. That happened once. After that, just the threat of kissing stopped any fighting or arguing.

        • AlbertInTucson

          “Let me show you how much I love you by beating you black & blue.”

          • Trac

            Bottom line is that the corporal punishment didn’t kill me. My father tried the best he could and there really were just a few times that I can say he over did it. The problem with corporate punishment is that if it’s administered when a parent is too angry, it’s easy to lose control and discipline can turn into a beating. A child should love the parent more than fear them. There is a healthy balance. I never had the heart to spank my kids and my main goal as a dad has been to let them know they are loved. Respect from your children is the goal, not fear in my opinion.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I don’t recall ever being really spanked as a child. The spectre of the possibly DID loom and that was enough for me. The wife and I agreed from the get-go that corporal punishment too easily crosses the line and we never used OR threatened it. There are better ways to discipline children, most assuredly a 4 year old. Time outs worked fine for our child.

      Not to defend or dismiss on AOP’s behalf but with the terms being used, “Whoopin'” with a “Switch”, you can be SURE this is EXACTLY how Adrian Peterson was “disciplined” as a child.

  • GPLDAN
    • Cormonster

      I delivered pizzas for a few years in college and just after that for some extra cash. The worst tippers by far were black people. I’ll bet I got stiffed over 75% of the time, and another 15% of the time I would get the leftover change on a bill. Not sure if it was a cultural thing or the area I worked, but I hated it whenever I seen a delivery to certain parts of town. It wasn’t just me. No one wanted to get stuck with those deliveries.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Well, that’s HARDLY on a par with domestic violence.

      “LeSHON McCOY IS A CHEAPSKATE”.

      Meh.

      That isn’t damaging to the NFL.

      It’s sad that Shady McCoy is too stupid to realize that it IS damaging to him.

      If you or I made that kind of money and were presented wth a bill for $60, we’d probably leave $80 or $100.

      I leave 18 to 20% and If it’s a cheap meal like a $20 breakfast or less for the 2 of us, I leave a 5.

      I even give the kid behind the counter a buck at Domino’s when I pick up my carryout pizza.

      MY daughter waited tables in college and complained about serving a party of 10 who left NO tip. I blame THAT BS on management for not putting service charge on larger groups.

      Mind you, I’m not above telling management that they didn’t earn that 18% surcharge if, indeed, that was the case. That happned at a Mother’s day brunch at a country club. They were going to COMP the meal but we’d already paid so, instead, they gave us 2 free rounds of golf.

      If I get poor service, I only leave 15% or even 10% if the service was downright bad and when they they ask “how was you meal” on the way out, I polittely let them know the service was underwhelming.

      Had a place we really liked here but they changed hands and the service went south so we stopped going.

      Best bet: We have 2 or 3 places we go regularly and ask for specific servers. We know what to expect and so do they.

      BTW, if you use a coupon, you base the tip on the full price, not the discounted one.

      And if you complain, be civil, Management usually wants a chance to make it right so you’ll come back and will often do something to induce you to come back like a free meal or dessert.

      Thus endeth my sermon on “Tipping.”

      Go in peace.

      • Shady

        I read it as sarcasm.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I saw it as an excuse to give my sermon on tipping.

          • Shady

            Keep on preaching Al. Aren’t we overdue for a Burma Shave?

      • CanadaBear

        With ya all the way Al. I’ve worked a couple of jobs that depended on tipping. Typically the nicest, least demanding people are the best tippers. The most miserable, demanding fuckers are usually the worst.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Four of us at dinner at the place we used to like but have now abandoned. We get seated. Takes a while for a server to find us and our food, nothing exotic, takes so long to arrive that a couple iss seated after us, dines and then leaves before we are served. When we are served, one of the orders isbotched. and has to go back. It takes another 2o minutes for that meal to come back correctly, destroying the pace of our group’s dinner.

          Manager makes his “how’s everything tonight” visit and get’s our story. He apologizes and offers free dessert for all. Great. Except that the desserts then took ANOTHER 20 minutes to reach the table. HE never checked on us again or I’d have told him “I don’t know what the priorities are in your kitchen tonight, but apparently food preparation isn’t one of them.”

          If I were that manager, I’d have told that kitchen “I just had to give free desserts to table X for poor service and if they don’t have them in the next 5 minutes, I somebody here is out of a job.”

          Tried them ONE more time for lunch. It was early, they were NOT busy but again, the food (burgers,etc.) took forever to arrive. When one of our group politely said “we were starting to wonder” as the food finally arrived.

          The server’s response was

          “Well, we have to cook the food.”

          BZZZT!

          Wrong answer, Lady.

          Manager never checked on us. We’ve never been back.

          • CanadaBear

            I’ll give any restaurant a mulligan unless it’s obvious the horrible experience wasn’t going to be a one-off. If the server is trying and the food is crap, I’ll still leave a good tip. When they aren’t trying or my pet peeve, they are schmoozing with other customers but not really doing anything, the tip drops for sure. We were at Waterton Lakes NP this summer and the waitress literally talked to the table next to us for 15-20 minutes straight. Numerous people came after us, ate and left before we were served. Basically she fucked it up so bad they had to remake our meals and they were still cold when we got them. I don’t think she was cut out for this type of work!!!!!!!!!

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice and I ain’t eatin’ here anymore.”

          • Trac

            Once a kitchen gets behind with untrained staff , forget about it. You prolly never saw the manager again because he was on the food line with his sleeves rolled up. I can put up with just about anything at a restaurant except a rude waiter/waitress. I can even deal with unfriendly but rude is a bad idea when I go out to eat.

        • AlbertInTucson

          We’re pretty demanding. “Extra napkins, please.”

          One of our regulars brought extra napkins to us last night without our requesting them.

          My wife joked to the server “Are you implying that we’re messy?”

          I chimed in with “No, she’s saying ‘I’ve seen how you eat’.”

        • AlbertInTucson

          I never had to wait tables. The local PF Chiang’s has a waiter we love. He is missing his left forearm but is as good a waiter as you’ll ever see.

  • BillW

    This “make up punishment and change if expedient” crap is going to hurt the league if they don’t step up and take a different approach. The inconsistent fines are one thing But how to you render three punishment opinions on rice? And now what with ap? Wait for the legal process to take place when he admits to the act and we can all see the pictures? And is that the measurement? Visual evidence increases the punishment?

    The league needs a special department for this.

    Myself I’m ready for another league. It’s all out of control.

    And Jay Cutler who by all accounts is a good husband father and contributor to charity without fanfare is ridiculed by the press continually.

    Corporal punishment is dicey. But to cause physical suffering to a four year old?

  • AlbertInTucson

    Being whooped by his grandma is one of the MANY hilarious parts of RICHARD PRYOR LIVE IN CONCERT. She made him go out and GET the switch she was going to whoop him with. And he knew better than to come back with anything too small.

    • Shady

      ahahahahaha, oh child abuse… smh

    • CanadaBear

      Richard Pryor made drug addiction and attempted suicide funny. His bit about his dad not being afraid Linda Blair (The Exorcist) is beyond funny. The throwaway line at the end of the bit “Get that cross outcha pussy” kills me.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Pryor was a comic genius. His personal life was a greasefire.
        No doubt being reaised in a whorehouse left a few scars.

        It’s a given, vicious cycle: The majority of abused children grow up to be abusers.

  • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

    I looked at my 4yr old this morning and thought about AP’s son. If he never plays a down in his life I’d be ok with it. And for the record, AP being raised that way resulted in a fucking mindless pack animal that just happens to run fast and strong and nothing more. Evolution.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Blogfather Tweet: “Why does a professional football player require a weapon to discipline a four year old?”

    Because that’s how the football player’s father disciplined the football player as a child.

    • MB30SD

      Exactly. Too bad he’s not smart enough to realize it’s wrong

      • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

        because he’s a pack animal

        • MB30SD

          I looked at my little guy man. He’ll be 4 in nov.

          Can’t imagine hitting him once with a stick… never mind doing it 15 20 times as he cries and begs you to stop hurting him.

          Can’t even imagine. The thought of it upsets me as I type this. .. how can you do that to something that unconditionally loves and worships you. Can’t even fathom

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            My heart breaks for little kids that grow up living in fear and pain and not knowing when they are going to get abused or screamed at or worse. My kids are eating pancakes and watching cartoons and laughing. Not getting the shit whipped out of them like they are fucking slaves.

          • MB30SD

            The way it should be.

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            and when they fuck up we tell them we love them and then punish them, once again without whipping the shit out of them and terrifying them. My son may not be Adrian Peterson physically when he grows up but there are other ways to teach him to be a man. A healthy loving, respectful man.

          • MB30SD

            Time outs work just fine… or loss of toy/privilege. I will not teach my kids violence. Even though we were spanked but not harshly.

            Teaching right and wrong through love will always work exponentially better in the long run

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            That’s just because your kid will be able to kick your ass one day and you know it.

      • AlbertInTucson

        That is a tough cycle to break.

  • AlbertInTucson

    AP has turned himself in.

  • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

    on a lighter note, let’s talk about football “investing”:

    I put my bet in for this sunday.

    1.00 on 11 separate games
    42.00 on the 11 team parlay
    total payout 52,991.00 WHEN it hits. I researched the games like a damn scientist.

    The 52.00 was the proceeds of last seasons profits so it was like betting house money.

    I can taste victory

    • AlbertInTucson

      But can you SMELL Victory?

      FYI: It smells like napalm according to Col. Bill “Charlie don’t SURF!” Kilgore (Robert Duval – APOCALYPSE NOW)

  • Big Mike

    Madden Sim http://sportsmockery.com/2014/09/chicago-bears-madden-sim-san-francisco/
    47-3 49ers. Cutler has a 32.4 QB rating..
    Every single “expert” picked the 49ers. They are being touted as the lock of the week.
    I smell an upset.

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