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Does Question Mark at Quarterback Mandate Bears Choose Head Coach With Experience?

| December 30th, 2014

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You hear it all the time, mostly from panicked fans tired of losing.

“WE NEED TO REBUILD!”

In the NFL that term has very little meaning. Teams that are rebuilding have one of two distinct characteristics: no head coach or no quarterback. Just look at the twenty teams not in the postseason this year.

New York Jets – neither, Buffalo Bills – no QB/possibly no coach, Miami Dolphins – jury out, Cleveland Browns – no QB, Tennessee Titans – no QB, Houston Texans – no QB, Jacksonville Jaguars – jury out, Oakland Raiders – no coach, Kansas City Chiefs – borderline playoff team/extremely limited QB, San Diego Chargers – borderline playoff team/jury out on coach.

New York Giants – football’s all time anomaly, Philadelphia Eagles – won 10 games, Washington Redskins – neither, Chicago Bears – no coach/possibly no QB, Minnesota Vikings – jury out, San Francisco 49ers – no coach/possibly no QB, St Louis Rams – no QB, Atlanta Falcons – no coach, Tampa Bay Bucs – neither, New Orleans Saints – who knows what happened there.

Rebuilding in the NFL means bringing a young quarterback along and putting as much talent around him as possible. This is far easier to do when the coach leading the way has a track record of success.

Not a single team in the non-contenders category is confident in their coach and quarterback. The Giants and Saints, the two franchises not in the playoffs with Super Bowl winning coaches and quarterbacks, enter every season with one definitive goal: another Super Bowl title. The three teams with both in place NOT in the postseason, Philly, KC and SD, will be right on the cusp of the postseason every year. (I’m crediting Philly with having a QB because I believe they have multiple characters capable of executing Chip’s system successfully.)

The Bears have a top running back, top tight end, two top receivers, a couple of top offensive linemen and some young & veteran talent spread across their defense. But their quarterback position is now a significant question mark.

Putting a head coach in place who has never been a head coach and pairing him in the years to come with a quarterback who has never been a professional quarterback is not a recipe for long-term success. It is a recipe for becoming the Jacksonville Jaguars. The historical track record of getting this combination right is not even in the same zip code as good.

Add to that the two experienced head coaches who will be pursuing the job aggressively – Rex Ryan & Mike Shanahan – would be able to maximize the ability of Jay Cutler over the next two seasons if the Bears chose to keep their quarterback while finding and grooming his replacement. Ryan’s power run/play-action attack would be the ideal system to limit Cutler’s attempts and Shanahan has not been shy about his desire to coach the man he drafted once again. Keeping Cutler is no longer a necessity for the Bears but these two coaches would enable the Bears to do so and win some games while developing the future at the position.

The Bears have never hired a head coach with previous head coaching experience. Coming off the most embarrassing season in franchise history, featuring lapses in leadership normally reserved for the hallowed halls of Congress, wouldn’t this be the perfect time to break the trend?

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  • http://www.upitpuppet.com/ evantonio

    My first pick would be a coach who promises to give away free hot dogs every time the Bears fail to score 24 points.

    • Bobby Douglass

      Hot dogs! Shooby-dooby-wop!

  • NewBearInTown

    Meh. Darell Bevel probably has a better chance of finding chemstry with Jay Cutler than Rex Ryan. At least, he has more history working closely with a QB. I don’t think experience is required to coach a vet or to coach a rookie. None of the guys will be meeting an NFL quarterback for the first time.
    Plus, the great counter-point is mentioned above. Chip Kelly. No HC experience in the NFL. No clear cut franchise QB. He’s installed a system and in one season found a journeyman to run it. If they hit on the next rookie sensation (think Rodgers, Kaep, Wilson) without having a high draft pick? It will only make Kelly better.
    Experience helps, but its not determinative.

    • DaBearsBlog

      Doesn’t need NFL HC experience. Needs to be a HC. It’s a huge difference.

      Rodgers was a rookie sensation QB? He waited a long time to be a rookie.

      • NewBearInTown

        Only point about Rodgers is that they got him picking in the lower half of the first round. They didn’t need to stink to get him.

        • http://www.upitpuppet.com/ evantonio

          9ers didn’t need to stink for Kaep and Hawks didn’t need to stink for Wilson.

      • BillW

        Trestman was a head coach. Not following you

  • GPLDAN

    Trade Cutler. Trade Marshall.

    • DaBearsBlog

      God, trading Marshall would be so much harder to achieve.

      • BerwynBomber

        Really? Is his contract horrible? Nutty WR are a dime a dozen on the potential headache watch.

        • Bears-4-Ever

          I’m sure the Packers would take him…I can see it know Rodgers throwing to Marshall on one side and Nelson on the other. No thanks…Marshall might have a few screws loose but he’s still a damn good WR and when healthy even better.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

        Bmarsh for Gordon, straight up. Done and done.
        They want Cutler for Manziel, we can do that too.
        No need to take away the thrill of hating QBs from Chicagoans.

        • CanadaBear

          No need to trade for Gordon. I’m sure he has at least one more completely moronic gesture left in him that will get him fired. Cutler for Manziel? OK. I had to learn to hate Cutler. I’m already there with Manziel.

          • SC Dave

            Had to smile at those last two sentences.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

            haha yeah, I was being cheeky, but man alive, I wonder how Bears fans would react if that trade went down!
            I’m also curious what Gordon would go for now on the market (christ, that sounds like I should be a southerner on Jango).

          • CanadaBear

            I’m guessing you could get Gordon a lot cheaper than you think. His next suspension will be for at least a year.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Justin Gilbert could be had for peanuts too, maybe Rex Ryan could get through his thick skull? Ahhhh …..

          .I’d have Brian Hoyer before Johnny Football though.

        • Scott W.

          Dick Gordon?

      • CanadaBear

        I doubt that.

    • Bears-4-Ever

      Trade Cutler….KEEP Marshall.

      • GPLDAN

        Never work. Marshall is picking fights on Twitter, being a nut. Without a QB that gives a damn for him, he will unravel and fast. His broken ribs may have soured him from the one thing he was good at – going across the middle.

        Nope. Gotta shuffle him off.

        • http://www.upitpuppet.com/ evantonio

          Wait. So. Like. Do we actually get to see his boxing match? Is that going to happen?

          • Irish Sweetness

            I watched Lyle Alzado’s A Fottball Life the other day. It showed his exhibition fight with Muhammad Ali. That was funny. What a nutjob.

          • CanadaBear

            Steroids have a tendency to make you crazy. That and shrink your nuts!

          • Bears-4-Ever

            Yeah that was a sad show. He was a nut-job but I think his childhood and an abusive father had more to do with his attitude.

          • CanadaBear

            You’re probably right but my best friend growing up became a power lifter. We would work out on his “rest days”. Great guy and fun-loving as hell. On steroids he could be a monster. His weight varied from 250-300 (he was 6’5″) and he wasn’t fat. When he was heavy into his steroid cycle his temper was volcanic and it took nothing for it to go off. All his power lifting friends were the same. Scary stuff.

          • huntinbare

            Did you read the piece about Garza and his new power lifting regimen?

        • Bears-4-Ever

          Let me tell you Marshall shines when he’s in the spotlight and is used properly….You put a good QB behind Center that can throw him the ball…and Marshall would be a beast again. It’s doesn’t have to be Cutler…not anymore.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Didn’t he set the single game receptions record …. with Kyle Orton ? Cutty never got close to that. It would be fitting to see Kyle retire as a Bear. He’s perfect for the job. Cheap, dependable, no pressure to win.

          • CanadaBear

            Too late. He already announced his retirement to his teammates in Buffalo. Although it’s not official until he sends in the papers to the league office.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He made the same noise in Dallas, ended up in Buffalo. He wouldn’t say no to another year and say 8 million in Chi-town.

          • huntinbare

            Put a bottke in front of him with a pen in the other hand and watch him announce his…sssssscccomnneebbbbaaaaaaacccckkk!

      • Scharfinator

        This could only work if there was someone that was strikingly better behind center in Marshall’s eyes. He’d be sad to see his friend go, but if he could see how hes going to get into the playoffs for the first time in his career,he might come around.

        • CanadaBear

          I don’t think BMarsh and Cutler are BFF’s any longer. B mentioned some people have to be more invested in the game and then the “I understand the buyers remorse” thing. Don’t really care at this point. I’d keep BMarsh no matter what happens with Cutler.

          • Scharfinator

            That’s a fair point – I hadn’t considered the buyer’s remorse comment yet.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I think they had a bust-up. BM would have called out Cutty behind closed doors, and Cutty stopped targeting him. I had BM on all my FF teams or thereabouts. I noticed.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

      Can we get two 3rds back for Bmarsh at this point?
      Oh well. He did provide us hope. Hope is worth two 3rds, right?

    • Irish Sweetness

      BM? Really? I’d trade Cutty and Matty. There’s picks to be had there, especially with Matt’s great season.Then again, BM’s getting on, but I don’t think any pick he garners would be worth his talent. He was playing on one wheel this season but he can still make those circus catches. Keeps defenses honest when he’s healthy.

      Cutty and Forte equals a first and a third, or the equivalent of three seconds methinks. That’s rebuilding right there, and if we have a guy who can recognise talent then we clean up in trading down.

      Allen needs to be cut loose. From PFT:

      “For 2015, he gets a fully guaranteed base salary and a fully guaranteed roster bonus of $11.5 million, triggered on the 10th day of the 2015 league year.”

      His base salary for next year is 12.5 million … with a bonus of 11.5M ??? 24 million freed up if we cut him loose? Matty and BM make the same next year. 15M for the two. Cutty is into us for 16.5M.

      Am I right in thinking we clear 55 million dollars by trading / cutting those 4 ?

      BM is my favorite Bear, but if we’re starting from scratch …..

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Allen has a roster bonus due (10th day of league year) of $11.5M with guaranteed base salary of $1M. Cutting him loose frees up $11.5M. Cutting/Trading Forte saves $7.8M. Marshall COSTS $13.125M to cut and saves 3.95M in a trade. If the Bears can trade Cutler, that would save $12.5M in cap, if he is cut (would have to be prior to 3/12/15) then he would count $19.5M in dead money against the cap. So max savings are about 35,750,000.

        As an aside any team that trades for Cutler inherits his contract, so they would owe him $15.5M for 2015 (g’teed base salary) and a guaranteed $10M (Since he would be on their roster after 3/12/15) for 2016, the remaining $6M in 2016 base becomes guaranteed if he’s on the roster past 3/20/2016, that’s a large financial commitment to make on top of giving up a draft pick.

        • Irish Sweetness

          So that’s just 31.5M a team would have to pay him over the next two years, right? 15.75M a year … that’s doable if a team if wants him.

      • huntinbare

        What about snagging some higher 2016 picks or am I just being ignorant

    • huntinbare

      Draft picks please…are we rebuilding or are we rebuilding… Fales and a journeyman …pound the young legs and educate the line to sync. the run blocking…slowly we turn step by step…..after a couple years we should be further than this group would ever have taken us.

      • Irish Sweetness

        This.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    The answer is NO, not entirely. I firmly believe our horrible season has more to do with our lack of defense and special team performance than anything else, including Cutlers lack of performance. If we had a dominate defense this year like we’ve had say 5 years ago I think our Offense could have performed better on the whole. I think the biggest thing in a HC the Bears should be looking for is not someone who can handle Cutler or a QB only but who can actually LEAD the ENTIRE TEAM with guts and heart, able to motivate them to a level where they EXCEED expectations.

    This is exactly why Harabugh would have been the perfect choice if he wasn’t already taken.

    • willbest

      Our defense played well enough to win 10 games. The 8 games they held opponents to under 21 in regulation, plus Miami and Carolina where the offense decided they were just going to give opponents free shots inside the Bear’s 30. Not saying the Bears D was good, because it couldn’t keep a competent offense under 30 points, but they weren’t the reason the Bears finished 5-11.

      No this season was entirely the result of piss poor play calling, and piss poor reads at the line resulting in a predictable and impotent offense. If it would have just won the 10 games it was handed plus won 1 of the 6 shootouts we would be talking about our rematch against Dallas right now

      • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

        you simply cannot think that the Bears D performed against Miami. I was there. It was a bloodbath. Charles Clay was made to be Shannon Sharpe and Tannehill the reincarnation of Steve Young.

        I think they average 15yds per pass. 18yds per screen and 14 yds per quarterback keeper.

        • willbest

          It was a bloodbath because the Bears offense spotted the Fins the ball inside the Bears 35 3 times.

          • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

            i’m not talking about the score, i’m talking about how they took it up and down the field EVERY SINGLE POSSESSION. It was yucky. They were converting 3rd and 1’s and 3rd and 13’s like they were the same thing, 4th down conversions? no problem…

        • Irish Sweetness

          Tannehill might be had on the cheap, he’s not terrible …. we should focus more on D and less on Offense though, Make the Bears the Bears again. Oldskool. Tough defense, four yards and a cloud of dust on offense. Anything else is a bonus. If we happen to luck into a decent OL, then go after a QB. They’re not worth a damn without one

          Dallas’ OL are making Murray and Romo look like legends. Romo has 34 TDs- 9 INTs. They have what, four 1st round picks on that line? Seattle’s D will eat them alive. Jerry built the wrong line. If we can build anything close to the ’85 line then we’ll be on the up – but that takes a will, a will to basically ignore your offense in search of the golden fleece on D.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

            Romo has always had a very good TD-INTS ratio. He’s always been highly efficient, except you know, when it matters.
            Maybe that changes this year though when they run it 40 times a game. Less chance for Romo-effect.

          • willbest

            I always felt bad for Romo. Like last year he went head to head with Peyton Manning in Super Tecmo Bowl, and yet somehow he is the goat because he makes 1 mistake at the end of an otherwise perfect game. No, if your offense scores 48 points, the reason you lost was not because of your QB’s 1 mistake.

          • Scott W.

            I don’t know if Tannehill could handle the weight of being the QB of the Chicago Bears. A lot come in, and are never the same again.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Oh he’d get turned into pounded sand for sure, that’s why we need a cheap QB.

          • huntinbare

            Trade Cutler for draft picks …even future ones if need be…time to get on with the future..Fales and a journeyman while we retool.

          • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

            where in theee hell have you been?

      • Bears-4-Ever

        “Our defense played well enough to win 10 games.” Theoretically. The reality is the Bears D was STOMPED, SMASHED and RAPED in the dirt against good teams and held their own vs. shitty ones. Why did Rex Grossman go to a Superbowl? The Defense…period. If we had a good Defense Cutler and Company could have pulled in more wins…but when Cutty & company falls behind 20 points they turn on the “deperate” switch and the offense goes straight down the shittter.

        • willbest

          Why was Cutty & company ever behind 14 points let alone 20? Its an offense that should be scoring points 35-40% of its possessions?

  • Scott W.

    We are already the Jacksonville Jaguars, only we don’t have a coach. Or a coherent defense.

    The more I’ve pondered it, the more sense Viva’s campaign makes to me. I think Dave Toub, with carte blanche to do what he wants, would bring heaven to fans and absolute hell to opponents.
    Jay Cutler or no Jay Cutler.

    • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

      we are not the Jags Scott. There is way more talent on this team than that. Let’s not get crazy here. it was a disappointing season and changes are being made.

      • SC Dave

        Personally, I think the talent on the Bears is highly overrated.

        Except for Matt, of course, who seems to finally have a little recognition around here as what he has been for most of his Chicago career – the best offensive player on the team.

        • Scott W.

          I’m with you on this one Dave. Matt is just flat great. Thumbs up man.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Agreed Dave, but he’s 29, need to shop him while we can, we’re going nowhere the next few seasons.

          • huntinbare

            Pound the young legs for the next 2 seasons; teaching the O line to synch as a run blocking unit and use Matt wisely.

        • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

          Dave, I love Matt but he’s not infallible and he’d be the first to tell you that he had a hand in many a drive killing missed blitz pickup. He’s a true weapon and unbelieveably I feel he was not used correctly. I know it sounds weird but remember how we used to split him out on a shitty OLB one on one? Remember the wheel routes? Remember the constant use of him on outside pitches last year?

          The numbers say he was used correctly but he was not used Effectively.

        • johnnywad is a beast

          No no no……… remember? He’s mediocre. Just kind of so so.

          Worst post ever.

      • Scott W.

        I know. I need to stop over venting. I’m still sick from our season. I’ll med-up, and come out of it soon….I hope.

        • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

          It was the most deflating year because of the talent on the roster. Expectations were high but the NFL gods brought us right back down with 3 WR’s going down in the first game. Boom.

          • Irish Sweetness

            That Zach miller was exciting at TE … for five minutes. Is he okay physically?

          • Trac

            Nobody knows because he’s always hurt.

          • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

            haha, we were acting like he was Gronk. I found myself a little intrigued.

          • huntinbare

            I am glad we got crucified
            On to the resurrection
            If we were just respectable this shttt could be happening for years
            The push heard throughout the kingdom will live on in infamy

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      We even hired Jacksonville’s old DC. Uh…why? I don’t know.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

    reposting this, it’s my civic duty:

    Hey, Artoo, Ender, or someone with pull in the Twitterverse…start a
    campaign to remove Phillips from ANYTHING football related.
    I’ll even give you the hashtag

    #PUCKphillips

    • huntinbare

      #slideTEDover

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

    I don’t mind Rex, but Shanny? Can Shanny and Rex even co-exist?
    If we get Shanny, chances are we won’t aggressively look for a new QB (status quo), and that would be a catastrophic mistake.
    Plus, is Rexy tired of having QBs shoved down his throat? How’d the Geno experiment go over there?

    • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

      Rex is not taking a DC position. He has already said so. He is lining up TV gigs in case he doesn’t get HC

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

        I thought Jeff was making the case for Rex as HC, and Shanny as OC.

        Shanny will take anything right now, which ought to tell us something.

        • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

          Shanny is not a playcaller or an OC at this point and hasn’t done that since 1994

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

            Neither had Trestman!
            No SHANNY.

  • Scott W.

    While I’m here, let me extend an Autumn Olive branch to Phil and Barb…

    Help Wanted. 125 acre farm in WV now hiring for 2015 season. Lunacy with lack of grammar skills not a problem. Inability to recognize competent employees also not required; you won’t be allowed to decide with whom you work, or what work is done.
    Job requires incessant whining, and ability to not see forest due to numerous trees.
    Please submit resume to far end of lower meadow, in person, to any available bear.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Whining ? Bitch, we’re worse that the Jaguars !!!

  • CanadaBear

    No to Shanny. No coach should be hired to fix Cutler. He is what he is.

    • Scott W.

      I’ve typed “Cutler-centric” so much it pops up automatically as a word.

    • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

      No one should be hired to “fix” anything except for the truly broken aspects of the team. The lack of identity, the shitty D, the terrible specials, the inconsistency on O, etc. The terrible drafting, the constant misses on Free Agents, etc.

      • CanadaBear

        I totally agree with ya Johnny. The only reason I can find for hiring Shanny is the connection to Cutler. There has to be more to recommend him. His defenses in Denver were hideous at the end. Not sure what happened in Wash other than Snyder. Enough said, there.

        • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

          I agree , I can’t see Shanahan being in Chicago. From Teddy Ballgame’s comments the Bears are not going to blow up the roster which means I think they believe that the offense is much closer to being fine that a lot of people think. There will be a lot of changes but I think you’ll notice that a lot of them will be on D.
          I think an O guy that interviews that has a plan for the D with a strong DC in mind has the best shot to win the job. I’m not saying that’s the only way to do it but it’s the only way we don’t take an 8yr shit.

        • BerwynBomber

          More to recommend him? He has won two SBs and went, what?, 11-5 with RG3 as a rookie? Yes, McNabb and RG3 didn’t like him, but McNabb always struck me as a major diva and RG3 seems like he has a little Cutty in him in terms of his coachability. I’m no fan of keeping Cutty, but whether he is here or not, Shanny would be a solid hire. Would not be my first choice but I think he will bring an immediate air of professionalism and accountability.

          • CanadaBear

            Those wins were a long time ago. Not to mention he had a HOF QB and a great RB. It really doesn’t matter to me if players like him. As long as they respect him. Not sure Shanny has that going for him these days.

          • huntinbare

            I liked him elsewhere but not here…Cutler is luring us into his choice…clear the old thoughts of salvaging what is left. Trade Cutler for draft picks; get on with the future!

        • huntinbare

          Shanny is tied to the past…Cutler is luring you in…quiet the mind and …..Trade Cutler for draft picks….get on with the future!

      • Scott W.

        Yes. Or no. Whichever agrees with you on this.

        • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

          i’m firmly in the camp that we have the pieces in place on O to score some TD’s no matter what offensive scheme is put in place as long as that scheme involves our 6’4s going down the field against their 5’11s

      • huntinbare

        Fix the top and the super bowls will trickle down to the small people

    • SC Dave

      So, so, so this. Someone posted in the Thousand Thread that Cutler should not be a consideration in decision making. Amen to that.

      • Scott W.

        Cutler-centric. It auto fills now.

    • huntinbare

      Cutler for draft picks; please…get on with the future!

  • Scharfinator

    If Shanny is so desperate for a gig, why do we want him? What does that tell us about him? I hate that retreats have a bad track record, but it’s the facts… unless Parcells wants to come over.

    • SC Dave

      We need a new Jim Finks.

  • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

    Waffle’s keys to 2015:
    1. Don’t draft white tweener hillbillies in the first or any round
    2. If the pick seems to obvious fucking make that pick
    3. DE and Safety must be addressed in draft and LB must be paid for in FA.
    4. New OC must be open to the idea of throwing passes whilst the WR’s are moving away from the line of scrimmage.
    5. New OC must be open to the idea of not thinking Martellus Bennett is a mix of Kyle Long and Brandon Marshall. He is not a good blocker and he’s not a good route runner. He is fucking huge however so please take note of how other TE’s are used in the league when a first down is within 6yds.
    6. DC must be open to not playing the soft zone that has resulted in the 2 worst Defensive Seasons I can remember in my life. An identity of aggression is preferable. Brock Vereen does not fit into any sentence with the word aggression in it.
    7. Put in field turf so our O weapons can be even better at home
    8. Stop charging 8.75 for a beer, not all of us live in Hinsdale and are used to paying that much for Miller Lite.
    9. Please hire a coach that’s not afraid to stand up to the media, swear on occasion, show strength or pretty much display any other behavior that would result in the “twatsphere” getting up in arms.

    • CanadaBear

      Disagree with #3. Get all three positions covered however you can. Our LB’s are the worst in the league, that has to be addressed. Really don’t care about #8. Is it that hard to sneak in some Tradewind?

      • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

        haha, I snuck it in last time and it was delicious. I’m flexible when it comes to the draft. I’ll take any player that makes sense when it comes down to it. There will be a solid no brainer at both our first and second picks.

        • CanadaBear

          I hope so. If the new guy makes another Chicken Dinner pick, I might just go off the reservation.

          • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

            Ironically, we picked Carey in the 4th rd and the guy I wanted was the WR from Clemson who could have been our next Alshon and instead will be catching balls from Rapermeister for the next 5yrs. Those that want to trade Marshall shouldn’t watch this kid Martavis Bryant because they’ll puke at what the possibilities could have been.

        • huntinbare

          Bring me HEAVY Hitters

    • Scott W.

      #4…..I’m not going to stop laughing for a fucking week….

    • Jack Lacan

      You’re not only a troll, but you are extraordinarily stupid.

      • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

        not even a chuckle?

        • http://www.upitpuppet.com/ evantonio

          why laugh when you’re saying we should eliminate the bubble screen?

          • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

            are you still on your 8 month honeymoon?

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

            Don’t dolls deflate after 3months?

            Love ya, hipster!

          • http://www.upitpuppet.com/ evantonio

            i wish. i’m back in real life. it’s a lot shittier than iceland and st. maarten. and there’s also no playoff football i care about in real life. though to be fair, it was shitty “watching” the bears get whomped via play-by-play gamecast on Thanskgiving

        • Jack Lacan

          Regarding your remark about Hinsdale — You are a humorless Communist.

          • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

            oh Jack, you know I love Hinsdale, where else would I get my Ferrari from except from my guys on Odgen? GP, AMIRITE?

          • Jack Lacan

            Yeah baby and the Range Rover as well…

          • Jack Lacan

            Ok I take that back…Peter Francis Geraci is doing quite well.
            You are sometimes quite funny in certain way.

          • SC Dave

            I grew up in Hinsdale, and I thought it was rather amusing. Especially considering those that lived east of Garfield Street.

            .. well, and south of the tracks too.

          • Jack Lacan

            Yeah baby…love that money…who cares…top 1% so what…there are poor in Hinsdale as well…

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

            There are poor in Beverly Hills too!
            Oh wait, no there’s not.

          • Jack Lacan

            The poor are everywhere today. What about Buffalo Grove, Winnetka?
            Peter Francis Geraci stays in business from what I see.

          • huntinbare

            I painted my way through college on the “greenbacks” of Hinsdale $

          • Jack Lacan

            I sent Butch Deadlife this remark…The poor are everywhere today. Buffalo Grove, Winnetka, and Glenview.
            From what I see Peter Francis Geraci from DePaul is doing well..

          • Jack Lacan

            I’ve sent this to some others on DBB — late — Bill O’Reilly has targeted Oak Brook mosque as a terrorism threat or something like that…Check it out…Imagine such a Republican bastion as Oak Brook/DuPage County as having a terrorist mosque…???

          • huntinbare

            Hailing from the barn (LTHS) I found that amusing.

          • Jack Lacan

            – This is very late – did you see where Bill O’Reilly has chosen Oak Brook as a center for Islamist terrorism / via a mosque there…now that is frightening…O’Reilly that is…
            Imagine anything more silly that terrorism in Oak Brook!!!

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

            I disagree. He’s plenty funny.

        • Jack Lacan

          Late reply — I apologize for the troll remark…now…I wanted to remind you to check into Bill O’Reilly’s remarks on Oak Brook – DuPage County – of all places? – as having terrorist mosque…
          Thanks – Jack

        • Jack Lacan

          More than a chuckle — LOL belated — and a Land Rover to you sir…

    • SC Dave

      10. or perhaps 0.

      Get a QB who gives a shit.

    • huntinbare

      Also…
      Don’t do what the other guys did or were dreaming of doing.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

    No Shanny No Shanny No Shanny…

    This is how I would feel if we got Shanny.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIJYfvN9954

  • Viva

    Viva keys to 2015:

    Hire Dave Toub for HC.
    Tell him to get 10 plus wins.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

      How about Toub for Football Czar?

      • SC Dave

        Um, no.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    If the hopes we are all feeling are once again squashed by mismanagement and poor choices I’m going to hand out the pitchforks and torches to the angry villagers and Halas Hall is gonna burn. I’m almost gun-shy to even hope this much. Must be my PTBSD kicking in. Post Traumatic Bears Season Disorder

    • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

      I need to introduce you to the calming effects of the Hawksce and Bullsce

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        me loving the Hawksce

    • huntinbare

      If that happens a fitting t-shirt for the blog and soldier field will be…
      King George shaped like an egg having arms and legs , wearing a crown and holding a sceptor; precariously perched on a wall that is graffittied with….PUSH ME

  • Trac

    Nick Saban for GM/HC. Boom!

    • Scott W.

      I just threw up.

      • Trac

        hahaha. No worries Scott, it aint gonna happen because he’s a beast. lol

  • Irish Sweetness

    Leaning towards one of the Ryan brothers and selling out the next few drafts on defense.
    How about a draft-philosophy poll, Jefe?

    1. Build the D
    2. Build the O
    3. BPA

    • CanadaBear

      In order BPA, D and then O (unless your talking about a can’t miss OL man).

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

        the ironic part, at #7 we can probably draft the top OT.

        • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

          SCHERFFFFF

          • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

            a new kid at the office went to school with him at Iowa. Beast.

        • willbest

          And I hope they do, unless there is a beastly DE there or the next Luke Kuechly

          • Irish Sweetness

            Apparently the beastly DE is a DT right now. What would be nice to have is a GM who can find our OT in the third while we beef up the D.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

            Exactly. I think the Lions got Warford in the 3rd who is about as good as Long in the 1st.
            It’s all about great drafting.

            Also, no gaurantees. That Vikes LT looks pretty horrible now.

          • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

            imagine Riley Reiff instead of McClellin, Long and then Scherff.

          • SC Dave

            That’s the kind of shit that Dallas does.

          • John Doe

            Best DE and DT and S will be gone by the time Bears pick at #7. Take Scherff and build a nasty O-line.

            Bears will have to get lucky in the draft and hope one of the top defensive guys fall to #7.

            Matt Miller’s latest draft is out today. Miller has:

            Tennesse Titans taking the best DE at #2 – Randy Gregory, Nebraska

            Jaguars taking the best DT (and may be the best defensive player in the draft) Leonard Williams at #3

            Washington taking the best safety Landon Collins at #5

            Miller has Bears taking Shane Ray DE/OLB Mizzou at #7. But he looks like another 3-4/4-3 tweener and we already have enought of those.

            Really hope we get Randy Gregory or Leonard Williams.

            Matt Miller @nfldraftscout · 6h6 hours ago

            Who goes No. 1 overall in the 2015 NFL draft? Full Round 1 mock updated here:http://bleacherreport.com/arti… …

          • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

            I’m scared that this post might break the internet and cause a ripple in the fabric of space-time but I actually agree with you that Scherff would be a great pick for the Bears.

          • SC Dave

            Seems to still be workin’ Yonny.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

            Wow, they got Shaq Thompson as a top 10 pick?
            That dude has risen through mocks. Others didn’t even have him in the 2nd.

          • Irish Sweetness

            We have a serious shot at the #1 or #2 pick with a Cutty trade. We do. Cutty is 31, either the Bucs or the Titans might decide to ‘win-now’ and believe that Cutty is the guy. That gives us anybody we want.Why would we waste a pick on O when it’s a D that’s required.

            Look at Denver, they went with O and got crushed in the SB. Who have the Seahawks got at receiver? A.N. Other, that’s who. Defense. The Cards won 11 games with defense and NOTHING on offense. Larry Fitz was invisible this season.

            If we off-load Cutty and Matty, we could get both Williams and Gregory, and still have a first round pick to snag Landon Collins. How bout them apples?

          • Trac

            Lovie won’t touch Cutler with a ten foot pole, it was the beginning of the end for him. That’s Bali dreamin fur ya Irish. Wake up man, wake up.

          • SC Dave

            Rotten apples. Keep Matt.

          • CanadaBear

            We’d better end up with the 85 Bears D because we won’t be scoring any points.

          • huntinbare

            I will take that any day…you will love the feel of the 60’s where the highs came from the D ( Butkus and co.) standing over fallen wounded preyprey. It will restore order and if you feed that need; the O will come.

          • huntinbare

            Cutker for draft picks; please….get on with the future!

          • Irish Sweetness

            We may go 3-4 defense,so there’s that. Hopefully we acquire some picks and package them into defensive gold.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

            Emery liked his “flexible” players, so Shea, Bostic, Ego, Houston, Fuller, Jones can project to 3-4s

          • SC Dave

            The latter. We’re Bears fans. We need a HOF dude at MLB. Soon.

        • Irish Sweetness

          And if the top DT is there at 7 … see? Got to have a plan, the vision, and stick to it.
          Surely to God we’re not holding on to Cutty (pretty please!) So some fool is going to see Cutty on the block, equate his woes to something else (line/coaching) and assume they can do better. There’s four teams picking ahead of us that could conceivably take him. He’s only 31.

          We could pass over that OT and take the top DT. Let Ratliff play out his contract. Paea’s serviceable. Sutton/Ferguson? I think Emery was reaching, hoping to hit .50. Neither looks like a game-changer from what I saw, rookie or no.

          • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

            no fucking way Leonard Williams is there at 7. he’ll be gone by 3. If he’s there at 7 you take him and laugh at the Raiders, Jags and Bucs who helped make it happen with Mariotta, Winston, Cooper….

          • willbest

            If you go with a journeyman QB who isn’t going to throw it more than 20 yards down the field, you are absolutely going to need a rock solid O-line that can handle 8-man boxes.

          • Irish Sweetness

            But you can’t have a rock-solid O-line AND a rock-solid Defense. Can’t do it. A choice needs to be made. Can’t be playing BPA when you’re trying to build a D. It’s got to be BDPA IMHO.

          • SC Dave

            Why do you presume a journeyman cannot throw more than 20 yards? That’s silly.

          • willbest

            Because they are not a journeyman QB if they can make accurate throws more than 20 yards down field.

          • huntinbare

            Our recieving core is built for the short game right now isn’t it? If we get a burner and throw over 20 several times a half couldn’t a young arm or journeyman get that done for us; while we pound the running game while developing the future?

          • willbest

            Well Bellamy is pretty fast, but he probably suffers from the Devin Hester fate. Which is Jay Cutler just doesn’t like to throw to him. So if Cutler is gone we do have some speed. Jeffery isn’t particularly slow and beats the CBs pretty regularly.

          • huntinbare

            It seemed to me Jeffery was getting better separation last year; seemed like an injury robbed him of some ssime speed. I would like to keep exploring Bellamy; he looked good at times; if he gets some experience learning the defenses he may suorise the faithful

          • Irish Sweetness

            We may have better receivers than we think, Jay just wasn’t very accurate, the less so the further the ball travelled.

          • willbest

            Yes I do think that is a concern going forward with Jay. He seemed to have far less power this year. He under threw the receiver this year a couple times and I don’t recall ever seeing him do that before.

          • SC Dave

            But, at the same time Irish, none of the DTs suck. All of the LB do, except for maybe Chandler Jones.

          • huntinbare

            Cutler for draft picks…please , …get on with the future.

    • Scott W.

      Can I say I’m glad to see you back, without having to send you Valentines cards every year?

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      I found a good article about Angelo’s draft philosophy:

      https://www.yahoo.com/health/4-easy-ways-to-slash-your-bpa-exposure-105362811123.html

      • SC Dave

        People have to die of something, right?

    • huntinbare

      Beg Marinelli to come back. He spits fire and brimstone; my favorite Burgess Meredith impersonator.

  • Scott W.

    Random poll.
    You are hired as HC.
    Which offensive player(s) (not including oline and kicker) is sacrosanct to you, and will NOT be released or traded under any crircumstance?
    ><
    No more than 2. Who?

    • willbest

      Bennett and Jeffery

    • Irish Sweetness

      Uni and Jeffrey.

    • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

      Mills and Garza.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I see what you did there.

        • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

          I forgot what sacrosanct meant, I thought it meant sucked ballsack

    • Trac

      Cutty and Allen.

      • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

        lol, Allen is offensive I guess.

        • Trac

          Hahaha

        • Scharfinator

          His play offends me.

    • CanadaBear

      Walter and Neal.

      • SC Dave

        Matt is better than Neal was. Albeit not by much.

        • CanadaBear

          I was going totally historical. Neal was a better runner in his prime (he had that extra gear) but once he got beat up he was useless. He certainly wasn’t anywhere close to the receiver that Matt is.

    • SC Dave

      Forte and Jeffery, the obvious choices. The offense now, and the best chance for the offense of the future.

      I do like Bennett, but he can’t block.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Is there any point in going after Todd Bowles or Dan Quinn who have both overseen top defenses? If we make either a HC, doesn’t that kind of preclude them from flying our defense?

    Just watched George’s presser. Ginny’s pissed off, eh? I hope that means she wants a badass defense.

    • huntinbare

      Maybe she could holograph her way into the DC position. No greater wrath than a woman scorned.

  • John Doe

    I don’t get the Rex Ryan fascination at all. He was so full of bombast his first few years that it was painful to watch. It would be too much of over-correction after Trestman and Lovie Smith. Plus, he cycled through OCs pretty much every year and his offense always struggled. No thanks.

    No to Shanahan either. He was terrible in Washington. Plus, he gave his kid OC job. No thanks to nepotism. And no we don’t need Jay Cutler’s personal coach as Head Coach.

    If we are talking expericened HC who has won Superbowl, go for Bill Cowher.

    Passion – check
    Understands history/tradition of a storied franchise – check
    Can get in players faces and discipline them and motivate them – check

    Cowher has been eyeing Giants job but Coughlin is not going anywhere this year. Bears is the type of franchise that would appeal to him. He can attract strong OC and DC with him.

    I want the next head coach to be head coach first. Offensive and defensive play calling are full-time jobs best left to specialists. Head coach needs to be a leader and motivator. Cowher would fit the bill.

    • Trac

      You forget “not interested” in coaching- check.

      • CanadaBear

        Been on TV forever-check. Fire gone out-check.

      • John Doe

        Anyone can be interested at the right price for the right franchise.

        Cowher did mention a couple years ago that would leave his tv gig for 2 jobs – Bears and Giants.

        Plus, he has history with Accorsi. So not as improbable a thought as it looks right now.

        • Trac

          We were crying for Cowher before Emery hired Tresticle.

        • SC Dave

          And he’s only 57, so we could get some years from him.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Agreed. Bowles and Quinn look sexy because of their defenses … but they won’t be DCs in Chi-town, so what’s the point.

      Interesting trivia from a poster on WCG :

      As Baltimore Colts GM, Ernie Accorsi drafts Elway in ’83, who forces a trade to Denver.
      The Colts move to Indianapolis after the ’83 season and Accorsi resigns.

      Art Modell hires Accorsi to be GM of Browns in ‘85. He loses 3 AFC Championship games to Elway’s Broncos.

      In ’94, Accorsi becomes GM of the Giants

      in ’96, Art Modell moves the Browns to Baltimore and renames the team.

      Accorsi loses Super Bowl XXXV to Modell’s Baltimore Ravens.

      • huntinbare

        Accorsi has had trouble getting beat up by his worst nightmares.

  • BerwynBomber

    One big obstacle for Ryan could be his personality. Specifically, the buffoon part. Granted, most of it is intentional and well meant, but that might not sell well right now with McCaskey/Accorsi/Phillips. After this past season they might not wish to come anywhere near a jokester, even if Rex has dialed back his crazy in recent years.

    • CanadaBear

      Don’t think that would be an issue. They just fired two of the most humorless people on the planet.

      • BerwynBomber

        And those two people led to a laughingstock environment. Don’t know if they would wish to mix crazy Rex with crazy Brandon.

        • CanadaBear

          I’m guessing those two would get along just fine. Rex doesn’t get too worked up over big personalities, esp if they are attached to a WR that fights like a wildcat for extra yardage.

          • BerwynBomber

            Just like Rex and Santonio Holmes?

          • CanadaBear

            Did Holmes show you anything while he was here?

          • BerwynBomber

            I’m talking while he was with the Jets, of course. And I’m talking personalities. Not performance. Nor am I arguing against Rex. I’m only saying why upper management may not want any part of him.

            Rex, far as I recall, runs a pretty loose locker room.

          • CanadaBear

            I get that. But I’m guessing he was just as invisible with the Jets. None of us cared because he was getting paid in expired snack chips but when they are making big money it’s a different story.

          • http://www.upitpuppet.com/ evantonio

            there was that one time he took a knee after fielding a kick-off 8 yards deep in the end zone. one of the season’s highlights.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

            Even the Steelers couldn’t stand Holmes, and that’s after that SB MVP performance.

          • BerwynBomber

            Not many teams have been fond of Brandon either. And the issue is not whether Ryan would be. In fact, his biggest fault with Holmes might have been in being too fond of him. All I’m saying is it would not be hard for a decent interviewer to look at that and be a little concerned with Brandon in the house. And as mentioned below, Rex ran a loose locker room from everything that was reported. Don’t know if that will sell well after this past season.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

            I think in a major city like NY, CHI, keeping a loose locker room releases some of the stress.
            But I actually think Brandon and Rex would get along, and Brandon would cease challenging ppl to boxing matches under his stewardship.

            If not, Brandon can easily be shipped out after the season. No biggie.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Santonio hit the bong pretty hard. Not good if you’re a WR.

          • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

            Cavanaugh and Slauson admitted that Santonio’s problem wasn’t with the Jets, it was with Sanchez.

          • BerwynBomber

            Who cares? Rex was the one that made Holmes captain and empowered him.

          • Anonymous Yahoo Poster

            he was their number 1 WR and super bowl MVP and they had just given him 50Million.

          • SC Dave

            As opposed to a #1 QB with no SB appearances paid $54M.

            Sorry, couldn’t help it…

        • Scott W.

          I saw what you did there.

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      I think he did that purpose to get the NY media to focus on him so the players would have less crazy media scrutiny on them. If he just tones it down maybe 25% for Chicago, it should be fine. Regardless it was just an act. He’d not that dumb. He’s serious when it matters.

      (except when he chooses to get a tattoo)

      • Scharfinator

        Or if someone takes off their socks… hubbah hubbah!

    • Irish Sweetness

      Ginny and Georgie might get all nostalgic for a link back to the Eighties with one of the Ryan Brothers – even if they were just kids who robbed beer from the players’ cars.

  • John Doe

    Ian Rapoport @RapSheet · 36m36 minutes ago
    The #Bears have requested permission to speak with #Broncos OC Adam Gase, source says. Add that to the #49ers and #Falcons

    • Trac

      Yup, Tucker stays. We are going all in on offense, Cutty stays. Wow!!!

      • SC Dave

        That sure worked well so far.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

      Does Gase have any connection to Rex? I wonder.
      Hopefully, Peyton comes with him.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

      It took those geniuses two injuries to their HBs to figure out that CJ Anderson was by far their best HB.
      That’s like the Raiders thinking that McFadden and MJD were somehow better than Murray.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Isn’t Manning the OC of the Broncos ?

      • Trac

        Kinda thought the same thing myself.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Exactamente.

      • Scharfinator

        Yup, and Denver’s O hasn’t looked great the latter half of the season.

  • BerwynBomber

    So looks like the Harbaugh contract was a little less than officially reported. Numbers now say 7 years/35M with a 2M signing bonus.

    • John Doe

      Damn. Harbaugh’s agent circulated the $8 million number to see if any NFL team would bite. apparently no one did and #4 went back to Ann Arbor.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yep, 8M to 5M is a substantial drop. Annual salary is the same as he was making at SF.

        • Barb UMihai Mar
          • BerwynBomber

            But MUCH closer to 5M than 8M. Only two years will he crack 6M. It is considerably smaller than the original 8M per #.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I don’t know. I don’t watch amateur sports.

            My novice opinion is that he’ll at least get what that Saban dude gets. I read 6.7M/year.

          • BerwynBomber

            5.7 per year, which includes the signing bonus and escalators.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Harbaugh ? It might be a PR move and pay him on the down low. Like his wife getting 500.000 for being a consultant for some big shot around there that wants his name on some building…or some shit like that.

            I really don’t know much about that.

            “Finally, and perhaps most importantly, Michigan has agreed to “determine an appropriate deferred compensation arrangement” after the 2015 season. ”

            What does that mean and can it be in the millions if they want to?

          • huntinbare

            Saban $7.2 and climbing…depending on the playoffs of course

        • SC Dave

          *Only* $5M per year?!? Poor, poor baby.

      • huntinbare

        If it did…more for the agency…capitalistic self interest…to hell with Jim; we just mining him till he’s all used up

    • Scott W.

      This is where NBIT shines. He needs to get in here with his abbicus (sp?) Stat.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Ndamukong Suh wins appeal, will play vs. Cowboys
    Posted by Michael David Smith on December 30, 2014, 5:22 PM EST

    Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh is not suspended from Sunday’s playoff game after all.Suh has won the appeal of his one-game suspension and will play on Sunday at Dallas.

    Finally a just decision by the NFL

    • Bears-4-Ever

      Wait…I’m trying to give a damn………FAIL.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I’m going to watch the game, so I care. I want to see the best against the best. Not suspend players for some ‘bubu’.

    • BerwynBomber

      Lifting the playoff suspension is fine. But they should have given him a one-gamer for the start of next year.

      • Scharfinator

        I disagree. Suh is a repeat offender. They need to continue to increase his punishment severity until he learns or is out of the league.

        Sadly, it will take him stomping on a player and causing a significant injury, it seems.

        What a shit storm it would be if he had ruptured Rodger’s Achilles or something.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          stop it. it wasn’t intentional.

          • Scharfinator

            Really? You think the second step and rocking of weight onto it was unintentional? The first sure, but he changes his momentum to rock onto it again.

            Suh is a dirty player, we know this.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            the second step was natural

            the rocking of weight onto it was intentional. That in my book is ‘football dirty’. Very similar to when a 300 lb DT smothers the QB under his weight after a near sack, even if he knows the QB doesn’t have the ball anymore.

            Yeah, he’s a dirty player on many levels, but you can’t suspend for ones labeling.

            I agree with the end result… big fine, no suspension.

          • huntinbare

            If there is no SUHspension but a fine is still in place then the league is admitting they saw intent; therefore because of his priors he gets to pass through the door of escalating penalty.
            Back in the day when Mgmt. kept abusing the employees rights in the same fashion again and again ; the penalties for the grievances I filed kept escalating. And they lost on every repeat infraction. It became a detersnt to their bad practices.
            The league just told Suh..it’s o.k. get down with your big bad self.

          • Scharfinator

            You can and should suspend for “labeling” if that labeling is properly founded. As in, his unwillingness to fix his behavior. Repeat offenders get more severe penalties.

        • huntinbare

          And Roger’s posse is SUHpposed to be tough…their knees got weak

    • Irish Sweetness

      Well that seals it, DET +8 please. Let’s see how you handle that front, Tony.

      • BerwynBomber

        Best O-line in football, remember? Waffle dreams of that O-line. Sweet Jesus, what Cutty could do behind it! Mainly: fix on his primary even longer before the invariable checkdown to Forte.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Agreed, but they’re facing the #1 rush defense in the league. The Pats had a pretty good OL and ground game against the Bears in NOLA. Got to like the defense in those scenarios, especially with a +8 head start. The ‘Girls ground game will get swallowed up – Philly and Indy held him to two and a half yards per carry, and it’s been a long season for Murray. The #1 rushing D holds him to 60 yards and Romo will shit the bed.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Lions O is worst than Bears O.

          • willbest

            I mean I guess. Bears offense score 305 points, and Lions offense scored 300 points.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Bears = lots of blowout end of games points

            Lions = lots of great field position points, because of great D.

            They’re the same, basically, but if you would have switched the Ds the Bears O would have outscored Lions O by a mile.

          • Irish Sweetness

            There is that. I won’t be having a bet. I hate Stafford.

    • huntinbare

      Bet Gerra was SUHprised by that decision!

  • John Doe

    I mentioned earilier today in the other thread that GM/Coach will have some prior connection to Accorsi. Not very comforting.

    Greg Gabriel wrote an article that tracks the history of searches using consultants and hired candidates almost always have some relationship with the consultant. I expect the same with Accorsi.

    Key piece from Gabriel article:

    In recent years, the NFL has helped franchises that ask with head coach and general manager searches. The people who do this are usually former general managers like Accorsi. To my knowledge, Accorsi has been involved in three other searches. He was aconsultant for Atlanta in the 2008 when general manager Thomas Dimitroff was hired, in Cleveland in 2009 when general manager George Kokinis was hired and again in Carolina in 2013 when Dave Gettleman was hired as general manager.

    Accorsi isn’t the only former NFL executive who has been involved in these type of searches. Other include former Green Bay Packers general manager Ron Wolf and former Indianapolis Colts general manager Bill Polian. Those two have been involved in at least three searches.

    While these men are astute and knowledgeable, they also don’t know as many young executives around the league as you may think. In all cases where they have been involved in a general manager hiring, the person that got hired had a connection to one of the consultants.

    Two years ago, Polian was involved in the San Diego and Jacksonville general manager searches. Jacksonville hired David Caldwell and San Diego hired Tom Telesco. Both of these men grew up in Buffalo, N. Y., as close friends of Chris Polian, Bill’s son. They all went to high school and college together, and when they finished college they were hired by Polian to work in the personnel department of the Indianapolis Colts.

    Wolf was a consultant for the Oakland Raiders in their general manager search. The person eventually hired was Reggie McKenzie, who had worked for Wolf in Green Bay.

    In the searches that Accorsi was involved with, the general managers hired all had an earlier relationship with him. Kokinis got his first NFL job working for Cleveland when Accorsi was the general manager.

    While Dimitroff never worked for Ernie, his father did. Thomas Sr. was a longtime Canadian Football League coach who Accorsi hired as a scout in Cleveland. Gettleman was the director of pro scouting under Accorsi at the New York Giants.

    I’m by no means saying that these people weren’t qualified for their positions, but the searches weren’t as broad as many would think. In the searches where Accorsi was involved, the only one that hasn’t turned out well is in Cleveland, where Kokinis was clearly out of his element. Both Dimitroff and Gettleman have done solid jobs.

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/12/30/gabriel-ernie-accorsi-will-help-bears-find-right-leader/

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      What’s the word on the day ? Oh…yeah… nepotism.

      The Bears are looking to change the direction of the franchise by doing something new… nepotism.

      Wait… what… oh no.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

        That’s the entire NFL though.
        Rex Ryan. No connection to da Bears…
        Shanahans, Longs, Matthews, Shottenheimers, Polians…

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Yes of course… but within limits. And not with the GM. Feel free to the CD-DVD watching room, not the GM position.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

            I don’t advocate it, that’s just the way it is.
            Polian basically made his son the defacto GM, then they both got run out, but only after a few crappy drafts.

    • Irish Sweetness

      But the problem remains .. .the chief architect of our failure since forever. Ted fucking Philips.
      From what I gather, Accorsi is a consultant. He will recommend hires … Ted/George will go hmmmmm … and then George will speak his mind …. and the fkn President makes the final choice, right? Nothing’s changed! The same dummy that hired Angelo, lovie, Emery, Trestman is still doing the hiring. George is chairman of the board, but the Prez gets final say – yay or nay?

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        don’t burst the bubble of ‘King George’. Remember… this will get better… Virginia is pissed.

        • BerwynBomber

          I’m voting you up for Viva/Dave Toub-like persistence.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Danke. It’s a first.

          • CanadaBear

            Not really. You regularly up vote your own posts.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Yeah, I think we can ASSUME we all like our own posts.

            Mine, of course, need a an arrow that denotes “ABSOLUTE GEM” but my own humility forces me to settle for “Like”.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Why wasn’t she pissed … I don’t know … 10 … 20 years ago?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            yes sir !!!

            lots of believers in the McCaskeys around the web…makes you wonder.

          • AlbertInTucson

            She DID get pissed once before and relieved Michael of his responsibilities after the Dave McGinnis fiasco.

      • huntinbare

        “We feel the structure we have is a good one; with the head coach reporting to the general manager, the general manager reporting to the president, the president reporting to the chairman. But if that needed adjustment in order to get the right person; we would not foreclose that possibility.” So sayeth King George.
        Do not remove this possibility out to the street. Keep it in house and seat it at the head of the negotiating table. Feed it with your finest thoughts and realize it is the one possibility inside of Halas Hall that will be able to pay off the mortgage on future championships better than anyone else in the joint.
        Give up the current system that has not been able to honor what it owes to the fanbase; and has continued to squander the equity, in our franchise investment, by “purchasing” luxury items and hiring bad asset managers that have driven us to the point of ruin.
        Throw enough money at Bill Polian to pry him from his current ESPN gig. Take him before Queen Virginia’s throne and have her annoint him the secend coming of her beloved father. Tell King George to grant his every wish; and tell Squire Ted to go spin some gold out of the grass clippings from Soldier field.
        Your old road is rapidly agin
        Please get out of the new one
        if you can’t lend a hand
        For the times they are a’ changing

        • BillW

          I like how you think especially the Dylan quote. I made reference to George not foreclosing on a structure change too. It was said in answer to a question and phrased not to embarrass teddy boy.

          • huntinbare

            Big on Bob and I am definately on the sane page with you on Ted. He should feel no pain moving aside for someone who is highly regarded. He has had many chances to prove that he can make a high majority of decisions produce great results…if he was swinging and missing at his first accounting firm position and produced meager results; I doubt they would be giving him the final say .

        • AlbertInTucson

          Not stating it as a reason not to pursue him but, Bill Polian is in his early 70s.

          Also, he recently stated that had he still been in charge of the Colts in 2011, he would have drafted Andy Dalton as Peyton Manning insurance.

          http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000377186/article/bill-polian-wishes-he-drafted-andy-dalton-in-2011

          • huntinbare

            I was hoping that he would be better at filling the mgmt. and coaching vacancies than Ted. I believe that drafting should be a consensus among all parties involved; and if we get some good minds in the room it may cut down on mistakes.
            I never think one person has all the answers; but I know Ted’s results are getting stale…I think the game has changed and passed him by.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Dimitroff ?? That tool from the Falcons ?? Did you guys watch Hard Knocks? Oh Jesus. Oh no. OMG. I’ve just had a flash how this goes from bad to worse. He hired some real dickheads on the coaching staff. Thomas Dimitroff as our next GM. Fack!
      (pukes violently)

      • SC Dave

        When all this went down, amidst all the gleeful hysteria, I dropped the old cliche about “be careful what you ask for….”

  • BerwynBomber

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog “Also, every report everywhere re: Jim Harbaugh was wrong. Wants NFL, wife won’t leave Bay Area, $8M per year. All wrong.”

    Yep, the only storyline that appears to have survived is that Harbaugh’s family wanted him to take the UM job. His Maize and Blue pride must be even stronger than people thought.

    • SC Dave

      Oh maybe he’s tired of coaching overpaid babies at the NFL level?

      • huntinbare

        You say overpaid babies
        I say corporate whores
        Babies just cry and scream dependency
        Corporate whores take it all and tell you what services you will get; and you better like it or I will move on to the next john

    • Jack Lacan

      He was “hypmotized” into the Wolverine job…

    • AlbertInTucson

      I think Harbaugh’s style is better suited to college anyway. It wore thin after 3 years in Frisco but the cast is always changing at the college level.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    I’d like to see a Rex Ryan/Rob Chudzinski pairing.

    • willbest

      Can’t believe the Browns fired Chud.

      • John Doe

        He was bad with people…rubbed too many people the wrong way including players.

        • BearDown100393

          He likes Phil Emery also???

        • AlbertInTucson

          That’s why Bo Pelini was canned at Nebraska, too.

  • Trac

    Bears finish out the PFT power ranking at #28 with the comment ” does anyone really think their situation will get any better?”

    • johnnywad is a beast

      Hard to imagine anything else. How could it not get better? Its already better and they haven’t done anything yet.

    • Viva

      I wanna be a Power Ranker!

      • Trac

        How come we’re not picking 5th in the draft then? It’s just not right.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Not saying it will get better, but a LOT of those “experts” are the very same ones who had the Cowboys written off at 8-8, or worse, for their pre-season predictions. NOBODY had the Cowboys going 12-4 or making the playoffs.

      Not saying I was any smarter because I didn’t think Dallas would be as good as 8-8 but those guys certainly don’t know it all.

  • John Doe

    Dan Pompei @danpompei · 55m55 minutes ago

    #Broncos OC Adam Gase is a top of the list coaching candidate for good reason. People I trust say he is one NFL’s sharpest offensive minds

    Dan Pompei @danpompei · 55m55 minutes ago

    Gase excels at personnel as well as strategy. He has a dynamic personality and is a leader. Doesn’t take guff from Manning.

    Dan Pompei @danpompei · 54m54 minutes ago

    Gase thinks outside the box. Great rapport with players. Has passion for the game. Interesting tidbit: he was a Mike Martz disciple.

    • Scharfinator

      #SMFH – Broncos offense looks like shit the latter half of this season. Also, how can he be properly evaluated when Peyton runs that team?

      • willbest

        Yeah in that sense I would be more interested in Gary Kubiak because of what he did for Joe Flacco than whatever Gase has done for Manning.

        • BerwynBomber

          Kubiak worked with Flacco?

          • willbest

            Well Rex Ryan hasn’t been particularly inspiring past his first couple seasons either. And Mike Shanahan also didn’t do anything his last few years. I mean all former coaches are former for a reason. The question is do you think they learned from the experience and can do better the second time around. Like Bill Belichik or Pete Carroll

          • BerwynBomber

            Wouldn’t disagree much only to point out that at one time both Ryan and Shanny did significantly more than Kubiak.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

            Yes, but both Bill and Pete failed spectacularly the first time around.
            Rex went to a few AFC championships with Sanchez, so he seems like a good comeback candidate, but who knows?

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

      Mike Martz disciple!
      I guess he forgot the part about no audibles cuz that’s all Peyton does.

  • John Doe

    Calvin Watkins @calvinwatkins · 3m3 minutes ago
    Jets, Bears and Raiders have all requested permission to speak with Arizona DC Todd Bowles.

    • willbest

      The irony that he could have been the Bears DC is delicious

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        that was impossible.

        • Trac

          It’s true, Emery wanted him but CD wanted Tucker.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            who’s CD ?

          • Trac

            It’s nothing barb. An attempt at humor that didn’t work. It’s rare but …oh well

    • Trac

      I knew it, Tuckers gone. We going all in on D.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Tucker and the rest of the assistants were told to “seek employment elsewhere” yesterday. That they all haven’t been “fired” yet is just an accounting move.

        • huntinbare

          Tgat is a gentkemanly way of showing you the door while handing you your coatcoat and hat…. And then asking for your keys.

          • AlbertInTucson

            But without severence pay if they get hired before you say “fired”.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Rooney Rule, which is unfair to him because he’s a viable candidate on his own merits.

  • John Doe

    Joe Ostrowski @JoeO670 · 6h6 hours ago
    This is where the Bears stand nationally. Viewed by @ByJimCorbett as a worse job than the Jets & Raiders: http://usat.ly/1zs8Sx4

    • Viva

      Jim who?

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

        I think Joe Ostrowski is that preacher dude.

        • Jack Lacan

          Joel Osteen? — Watch Bill Burr on Netflix…as TNT says – very funny

          • Jack Lacan

            Better yet…watch Nick Offerman on Jesus as getting laid…

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

            Haha, I actually did just watch Bill Burr on him.
            Have to check out Nick Offerman.

          • Jack Lacan

            Offerman goes over the top – but one has to enjoy his rabid candor.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Joel Osteen. Son of another bible thumping Flim-Flam man.

          • Jack Lacan

            AlbertinTucson — I’ve been reading many of the “pulps” from the thirties and forties (Dime Detective, Detective, Black Mask, Green Lama,
            Weird Science, etc…) the political incorrectness is quite common…”so called” racist slurs and so on. I do not believe that that generation of Americans had an “understanding / comprehension / O.E.D. / definition/ or what is it called today – mimetics? – impact of those words.
            My father long in Mt. Hope cemetery close to the fence ( a war worker) hated Jews. He thought the people of Skokie walked like ducks and so on.
            The “pulps” and Mr. Moto (yes WGN) present an interesting study of language and meaning in American culture re: nationality, race, birthplace of origin and so on.

    • Viva

      Locally, we are the worst team in the NFC North.

      • Irish Sweetness

        “The tallest mountains they start from the ground.”

        I’d have written a limerick but I can’t think of anything that rhymes with defense.

        – Irish, just now.

        • Viva

          Great to have you back!

  • John Doe

    Word is Atlanta and Oakland are the two teams..

    Manish Mehta‏@MMehtaNYDN

    Rex Ryan has two interviews for head coaching jobs scheduled for next week, per sources

  • Jack Lacan

    Mr. Moto says — I despise the University of Michigan and their spawn — Jim Harbaugh included…
    Go Irish, go Spartans, go Buckeyes etc…etc…Two words for the arrogant Wolverines…bite me…
    Best regards – Mr. Moto…

    I’m sorry about that last post…I have multiple personalities…I’ll take my meds now…

    • AlbertInTucson

      WGN used to run those MR. MOTO movies. before political correctness became a concern. CHARLIE CHAN, too.

      Peter Lorre as a Japanese detective.

      Sidney Toler / Warner Oland as Charlie Chan.

      Can’t get away with THAT casting anymore.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Everything pales in comparison to The Black And White Minstrel show. Lawks a lawdy!

        • AlbertInTucson

          Mssrs. Moto and Chan ALWAYS got their man, too.

  • Jack Lacan

    Hail to the victors…(whoops the meds haven’t kick in yet).

  • beninnorcal

    When did Irish come back? What did I miss? Welcome back, Irish.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

      The mothership returned him with tidings of good will.

    • Irish Sweetness

      (doffs cap)

  • Scott W.

    There seems to be a lot of people hoping Rex Ryan winds up as HC of the Chicago Bears.
    Can’t say I’m all in for this.
    Something about it bothers me, but can’t single out any one thing.

    • John Doe

      No Rex. Most likely he will be gone in the next few days. Bears are first trying to land a GM and then let that GM interview HC candidates. So some coaches will be gone by the time this happens.

      GM seach will hamper HC search.

      Manish Mehta‏@MMehtaNYDN

      Those two teams that the Rex Ryan is interviewing with next week: 49ers and Falcons, per sources.

    • beninnorcal

      I agree, his teams usually had a strong D, but we’re stills few years from that player-wise anyhow. I don’t see it with him.

  • Trac

    Well gents, Emery gave us the Kansas City Shit Shuffle but at least we ended up with lucky # 7.

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wxF5bfVofkk

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Emery gave us the best offense in Bears modern history in 2 off seasons.

      • Irish Sweetness

        At the expense of a defensive roster, old sprout. The D would have been just as bad under Buddy Ryan. Can’t polish turds. ‘Polish’ as in ‘To make shiny’, and not some grammatically incorrect racial epithet.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Come on, man. I’m well aware of what polish means.

      • DaMurph

        Offense? Offense? Did you say offense? Apparently you didn’t watch any games this year, we had no Fucking offense, what we had was offensive!

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          2 years ago… the Bears O was the best O Bears modern history.

          Emery returned everybody and added solid depth.

          I’ll not his fault the Offense failed. That’s on the HC/OC and the players.

  • John Doe

    Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora · 1h1 hour ago

    Pats OC Josh McDaniels, who has passed on some HC possibilities in recent yrs, agreed to interview w/ATL and SF this week in New England

    Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora · 1h1 hour ago

    McDaniels was the 49ers first choice option as head coach back in 2011 had they not been able to land Jim Harbaugh.

    Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora · 1h1 hour ago

    Reported on Sunday Rex Ryan was very intrigued by the possibility of coaching the Falcons. They will be interviewing him for their vacancy

    Rotoworld:
    The New York Post’s Brian Costello reports ex-Jets coach Rex Ryan will interview for the Falcons and 49ers’ head-coaching vacancies next week.

    There are the “two interviews” the New York Daily News’ Manish Mehta was referring to earlier Tuesday. We suspected the Falcons may be one, as owner Arthur Blank has reportedly been smitten with the idea of bringing in Ryan as head coach and to run the defense with OC Dirk Koetter staying on staff to continue to guide the offense.

    • AlbertInTucson

      So much for the “Rex takes a year off, like Lovie” or “Goes to TV and never looks back” theories.

      • NewBearInTown

        Well he hasn’t been offered the job yet.

        • AlbertInTucson

          True, but as I recall, Lovie didn’t garner much (any?) interest when the Bears first sent him packing and many complained about that and played the race card on his behalf.

          • BerwynBomber

            Race card issues aside, I was surprised Lovie did not get more serious nibbles that first off-season after PE canned him. Still think he can be a solid albeit limited HC but giving him personnel control in TB is nuts.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

            I think that’s what he was waiting for. For personnel control.
            He was one of the few coaches who got dumped after a 10+ win season.
            I think Shottenheimer in SD got dumped the same way too a few years back.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            guys… he’s picking first in the 2015 NFL Draft.

            in any other place rather than Tampa he would have been fired. He did worst than Schiano, who was more disastrous than Trestman.

          • Irish Sweetness

            That would be the comparative between two things, Barb e.g. ‘X did worse than Y …’. You would use ‘worst’ as the superlative, as in : ‘out of ALL the coaches, he did the WORST.’

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            true.

          • willbest

            Because everybody knows that without a HoF Mike, Lovie’s cover two scheme doesn’t work. Rex’s D works with fewer restrictions.

          • AlbertInTucson

            A healthy Tommie Harris inside helps that cover 2, too.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Will Rex console himself in a vat of M&Ms ?

    • AlbertInTucson

      If you’re a guy like Rex, with (apparently) multiple opportunities, are you REALLY hot to sign on with the ownership that wants to tell you who your OC should be?

      • John Doe

        If you are a guy like Rex who has been head coach with guys like Geno Smith and Mark Sanchez as QBs, you quickly agree to owner conditions when you have a chance to be head coach of a team with QB like Matt Ryan.

        Arguably Matt Ryan represents the best QB situation amongst the teams looking for a new head coach.

        • willbest

          Its not even arguably. You can’t make a case any other QB situation is better. He is the best QB situation.

          • BerwynBomber

            Carr maybe … if you believe in his potential … and the new HC has a longer leash …

          • Irish Sweetness

            Carr will be a good one. The Chicago job – I would have thought it’s a complete re-build. There’s maybe 5 or 6 players I could see being on a SB squad. We’re as far away from being a Lombardi hopeful as you can realistically be, without trying to lose on purpose.

            I’d feel better if Ted Phillips was sent down the old trap door. Something fishy’s going on there. The Accorsi thing is just smoke and mirrors for the sheep in the bleachers methinks. It has the look and feel of change without having any change.

            The guy that staffed the clown cars of the past is still in business. What’s that about doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results?

  • AlbertInTucson

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog

    “Paul Guenther? Tom Cable? Les Frazier? What are these agents paying national media guys to mention client names?”

    (Shudder). If there’s a future Bears head coach among that group I predict the fan outrage would crash this website.

    • willbest

      If a a head coach can expect 3-4 million with 10 million guaranteed and the agent is going to see 1.5-2 million, slipping a national media guy a nice bottle of scotch is most certainly an investment.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Just agents doing what they get paid to do. A lot of lying.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Paul Guenther seems to me like a potential HC gem.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Why?

  • Robert Dockery

    I have two names for new Bears coach – both have head coaching experience and played for the Bears. What does this crowd think about hiring Mike Singletary or Leslie Frazier?

    • AlbertInTucson

      I have to say “No” and “No”.

      The 49ers turnaround from Sammurai’s last season to Harbaugh’s first is pretty damning.

      Actually THATS the kind of turnaround we’re all dreaming of but I don’t think we want the guy who set it up.

      Les failed with AP in his absolute prime. Then again, the Vikes saddled him with Christian Ponder.

      • Bears-4-Ever

        “Actually THAT’S the kind of turnaround we’re all dreaming of…”

        I don’t expect we are going to get it in 2015…My best realistic hope is a SB run in 2017…using 2015 and 16 to get all the pieces together.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I did say “dream”. As always, my expectations are LOW.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      It would be a disaster because they don’t have the juice to impose change and they’ll fail being swept by the avalanche that is the Chicago Bears, a highly dysfunctional and poorly run franchise.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Well Robert, as I and others have pointed out, Mike Singletary is Forrest Gump with a bible and a suntan. I have no opinion on Leslie other than that he was a good corner.

      • Bears-4-Ever

        I still say most are being to harsh on Singletary. Just because someone has faith and is open about it doesn’t make them “gump-like”. He made some very bad mistakes in SF no doubt but most learn from their mistakes and I think I’d put Singletary in that category. Again I’d rather him prove me right on another team in lieu of the Bears taking him in at anything higher than a LB coach at this point.

    • Scott W.

      No. x’s 2.

    • Bears-4-Ever

      I think BOTH would make good DC. Really. At HC they both “failed”. I don’t want to hire a guy who couldn’t do the job well somewhere else…that being said Belichek was a failure in Cleveland and look at him now.

      I think both were great players.

      As I said in another thread Singletary (and Fraiser) could redeem themselves but let them do that elsewhere…we have had our fill of risk taking…the Bears need a SURE THING in the HC and GM spots…yeah I know, nothing is a “sure thing” in the NFL but we gotta hit the mark eventually.

  • AlbertInTucson

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog

    “Per @MMehtaNYDN Rex Ryan has two head coaching interviews lined up. One is certainly Atlanta. The other is hopefully Chicago.”

    IF that’s true, it’s a clear option for Rex.

    Arthur Blank reportedly wants to keep the Falcon’s current OC but in light of the Arians fiasco, the Bears can’t possibly think they can get away with telling a new HC who should be on his staff.

    That would be an UNkeepable secret signaling that nothing’s really changed.

  • BerwynBomber

    One thing about Bowles: I wonder if hiring him would provide greater job security for Cutty in Chicago. One would think Bowles might be inclined to say “status quo on the O and let me focus all my energy/exercise all team options on the D.” He might be more scared of an unknown journeyman replacement than a proven HC would be. Especially an O coach.

    I could also be talking out my ass.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Fortunately, we have some VIRTUOUSOS at talking of their as here so mke yourself at home!

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      seeing that the Bears have buyers remorse about Cutler and that they sacked Emery in part because of the contract he gave him, Cutler most certainly will be traded, or at least they’ll look aggressively to move him.

      If the new GM and new HC are ok with Cutler as their QB, you can throw the idea that Emery is at fault about re-signing him and they fired him for that, at the trash bin of history.

      • Irish Sweetness

        No GM could possibly be okay with Cutler, and if they are okay with him then they’re an idiot. 9 years in the pro game has shown that Jay doesn’t get it. Get it, he does not.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          So, they’ll move him or try extremely hard to do so.

          If they don’t they legitimize Emery’s decision as the ‘better’ solution of all the solutions.

          Which in turn would rise a big question mark on the reasons Emery got fired and the truthfulness of all the leaks we’ve seen lately.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Bowles will be gobsmacked at the over-spend on O and want that re-directed to D.

      • willbest

        Except that he will look at Cutler’s cap hit of 16.5 million and realize that is the same Cap hit as Carson Palmer, who is Jay Cutler just 4 years older.

        In 2014 NFL, known starting QBs make 15 million+. You may not want to believe it, but the salary cap is jumping 9 million a year, and the result is more money flowing to the QB position.

  • johnnywad is a beast

    I was under the impression Henry was having a better year than these numbers illustrate. Still solid, but not what I had been thinking all along.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000452156/article/cowboys-send-henry-melton-knee-to-injured-reserve

    • CanadaBear

      I think most of his sacks were earlier in the year and it looked like he was going to go off. Then he kind of tailed off on the sacks.

  • BearDown100393

    Suh wins appeal. 1 game suspension dropped.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Disappointing.

    • AlbertInTucson

      So, Packers & Lions could, conceiveably, square off next weekend if the Lions and Carolina win this week?

      • Cormonster

        Can’t happen. The Lions are the 6 seed, so they would automatically go to Seattle.

        • SC Dave

          They could always meet for the NFC title game.

          • Cormonster

            Yep, but not after the wild card round.

    • Bears-4-Ever

      We all know Suh is dirty. This was not the first time he tried to hurt someone one in a sneaky way. Roger Goodell is a pussy. It doesn’t matter if Suh did no damage to Rogers, the act of trying to do damage is the point and furthermore, in an illegal and underhanded way. If it was the first time this kind of thing happened in regards to Suh that would be one thing but it’s not. The Refs will instantly throw a flag on a violent hit regardless if its clean or not, but the league can’t show a dirty sob like Suh the bench for this crap? Ridiculous. It’s all politics…if Detroit wasn’t in the playoffs and Suh pulled this shit during the middle of the regular season the suspension would have stuck.

      • Scott W.

        It was pointed out on NFL network that no player has ever been suspended for a playoff game for that infraction. The fine amount says guilty as hell, but that they tossed the suspension to keep the team whole for the playoffs.
        What crap.

  • Viva

    Dear Ernie,

    Dave Toub for HC, please.

    Viva

  • Viva

    GP is in “you can’t have your cake and eat it too” land. Harbaugh to Michigan is great, but he can’t also coach Da squad.

    • Viva

      …although Wilbon posted a piece that best posits the notion you and Shady have been pushing with respect to a President of Football Ops. He thinks Polian would be a great fit for that position, which would essentially eliminate Phillips influence over the club.

      http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/12095833/if-chicago-bears-serious-winning-their-first-call-bill-polian

      • Bobby Douglass

        Read that yesterday. Dude’s 70, and he’s comfortable at the World Wide Leader. Bears won’t cough up what it would take, as much as Wilbon’s argument makes sense.

        • Viva

          If you look at the Blackhawksce it makes perfect sense. Scotty Bowman is a very wise “Hockey” man, in the same sense Polian could be for the Bearsce. His influence on the team is significant.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Polian ialso has a regular daily show on NFL RADIO on Sirius/XM.

          • huntinbare

            Are you saying he likes sharing his ideas from the couch for guarateed $; instead of risking his ideas on the open market where the likes of us will hold him accountable? He has gone sift before his time…70 is the new 50.

      • Scott W.

        That, and a Dave Toub hire, would ignite the fan base almost too much. Could we handle a change that dramatically improves us in the blink of an eye?
        I’d be looking at more meds.

        • Viva

          I can handle that kind of change all day loooong!

          • Scott W.

            Tweeted with Jeff last night about Toub. His take is Toub would be a great head coach, but not right for Chicago at present.
            Never got an explanation from him as to why, but it’s probably because he’s pulling for Ryan.
            I don’t think Ryan is a good idea for us at all, but I’m sure I’m in the minority on that one.

      • GPLDAN

        Harbaugh’s imperialist ways go better in college. Pros get tired of his screaming and yelling.

        He made the right call, he will be the next Bo.

        • Cormonster

          I agree. Do you think he can turn the program around in the first year? The defense looked pretty good last year, but the offense was horrid.

          Side note. I hate the new divisions for the long term. Wisconsin stuck in the west means they will rarely play Michigan, Michigan St., Ohio State, and Penn State. The only consistently good competition in the west is Nebraska. I already miss playing the better competition. It makes for a lot of boring games.

        • CanadaBear

          Not to mention, his overbearing personality wears people out. College ball is the perfect place for him.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

            From what I hear, 9er execs were/are big douchbags too. I can see that since the 9er front office has always thought they were hot shit.
            Harbs to Bears would’ve been perfect. He’s proven a winner, and should have been crowned the Billichick HC/GM title, that way little to no friction with management.

            Harbs will get the last laugh though. My guess is the 9ers will become like the Rams now.

          • CanadaBear

            Totally agree. I’d hate to work for Harbaugh but you gotta respect his results. SF going back to their losing ways before Harbaugh arrived would be fitting.

          • AlbertInTucson

            UNLESS you wear out the boosters. See: Po Pelini.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Wilbon makes no secret that he is a Chicago guy and a Bear fan.

        Also a Hawks fan.

        He’s a Cub fan too, but, we all have flaws.

  • Bobby Douglass

    Happy New Year to all the regulars who keep me coming back, to Jeff, and to all the lurkers too. I think the Bears need a running QB with a rocket arm and no accuracy. But I must admit I am biased.

    • Bears-4-Ever

      Cam Newton?

      • Bobby Douglass

        I was thinking more along the lines of Bobby Douglass.

        • Bears-4-Ever

          LOL yeah I get it. Hey, Rex Grossman had a great arm and he’s available.

        • huntinbare

          Only as long as he agrees to let the coach room with him

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    I’m a fan of Emery, but I also believe he deserved to be fired because of basic logic. When you, as a GM accept to keep the previous HC you should know it’s a recipe for disaster, so you’re at fault when you fail.

    That was his biggest and only big error. And it was his first decision. Accepting to retain Lovie was it. By doing so he lost the last year of good D and delayed the O construction.

    Going into the 2nd year the D was dying at a rapid rate and he couldn’t do anything about it. Not while fixing the Offense.

    And Emery -great football mind he is- knew it. That’s why he tried to keep Marinelli and Lovie’s system for another year. Just borrow a little bit of time and production from a dying unit, by fooling it.

    It’s also the reason no top coach pairing like Arians-Todd Bowles would have accepted the job. They would have wanted a D rebuild from the get go and that would have been impossible. Rebuild the O, the D and ST at the same time.

    In this context Trestman was ideal, he could fix Cutler and the Offense and don’t require his own DC who would have required his own D players, so he got Tucker… the only bum DC that would have accepted Lovie’s dying D.

    Point I’m trying to make… it all goes back to the decision of keeping Lovie. For that decision Emery deserves the ax, but it was ownership that required the new GM to keep Lovie. It was ‘keep Lovie’ or nothing.

    That’s what I mean by ‘systemic failure’ or whatever you want to call it… the GM being ‘set to fail’. It goes back to the lost year with Lovie and the rebuilding delay that came with it.

    • Scott W.

      Impressed as I am with your surprisingly rational post, Barb, it came down to Trestman, not the Lovie retention.
      The team lost its fire, partner, and became a joke.
      That hire is all on Emery, and it was unforgivable.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        You, but Trestman was the only solution there was.
        It wasn’t Trestman or Arians as the PR likes to convince you.

        And Trestman did do a fantastic job in his first year. If not for Lovie’s dead D the Bears would have made the playoffs. So the decisions Emery had control over were highly successful on short term.

        The second year was a travesty, because bad decisions always come back to haunt you.
        Trestman and Tucker failed miserably. Ok… learn from it… bring in a way better pairing and keep on rebuilding the D and O. Looking at the cap pace and Emery’s record as talent evaluator it was more than doable.

        If you don’t trust him at 100 % (as you should have doubts) bring in a big picture football guy to help him in this key offseason.

        Instead they blew it up, wasting money, time and credibility. Without really changing their managing style and approach, basically faking the ‘blowing things up’ part.

        PS: I understand people see in ‘The Counsultant’ (they should do a movie about it… it might have already done… maybe with that George something dude) the savior and the proof of change, but I find that rather naive.
        A consultant -by definition- doesn’t fix your problems, he just gives you exactly what you want.

        • Scott W.

          Jury is still out – hell they just got seated – on the consultant decision. I think that’s definitely a wait-and-see.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I think a fan should be pro active and look at the Bears track record.
            They had ‘consulting firms’ ‘helping’ with the Angelo and Emery hires. Now they have a ‘consultant’ from the NFL.

            Of course it’s a wait and see with the new GM-new HC, but my point is the dysfunction comes from the top. And the Top is still the top.

            You can bring in any GM-HC pairing you want, they’ll fail, because that’s what the Bears do. They set people to fail by design, which is faulted on every level, except for it’s ‘historical allure’.

          • Scott W.

            Don’t think we can ignore the rather surprising press conference tone. Sure, the history is dysfunctional in several instances through the years, agreed.
            But the tone of the press conference, coupled with the uncharacteristically swift firings suggests a bigger change has occurred inside Halas Hall.
            I am cautiously optimistic, as the saying goes.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            The tone of the press conference is all PR. That has 0 value.

          • Scott W.

            I think your reflexive default cynicism serves you poorly. Look at it through more than the wall you’ve built around yourself.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    NEW THREAD…this thing is filling up!

  • John Doe

    Dan Pompei @danpompei · 27m27 minutes ago

    Bears are expressing interest in Eric DeCosta of Ravens for GM.

    Dan Pompei @danpompei · 27m27 minutes ago

    Bears also expressing interest in Ravens OC Gary Kubiak for Head coach.

    Dan Pompei @danpompei · 25m25 minutes ago

    DeCosta and Kubiak could be a fantastic combo.

    • Bears-4-Ever

      Interesting…two guys who already know each other and have worked together on a sucessful football team.

      • willbest

        I am not opposed to Gary Kubiak

  • John Doe

    Wonder who is doing Bears interview on Friday.. Just the consultant?

    Albert Breer @AlbertBreer · 36m36 minutes ago

    Seahawks DC Dan Quinn interviewed with the Niners last night, will interview with the Jets and Bears on Friday, and Falcons on Saturday.

    • willbest

      All 3

  • John Doe

    One more D coordinator available..

    Albert Breer @AlbertBreer · 36m36 minutes ago

    Redskins announce that defensive coordinator Jim Haslett is out.

    • Bears-4-Ever

      NO! He failed miserably with the Rams.

      • CanadaBear
        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

          “This is a guy that would take the ’85 Bears and turn them into a
          mediocre defense,” Fletcher said. “He is clueless. He has no idea what
          he is doing. Believe me, I had a front row seat for four years.” – Fletcher

          Ouch. I’ve always liked Fletcher. He was a true rock and iron-man. He played a lot of the same years as Urlacher, and while never flashy, was always solid.

          I think I respect him more now for being so up-front and not taking the “anonymous source” route.

          And hot damn, does he unload! Maybe we should bring him in as LB coach or something, strikes me as a no non-sense knowledgeable guy.

          The funny part was when he said that he would change defenses cuz Haslett’s calls were too idiotic. That’s hilarious.

          • CanadaBear

            I would be happy with him as the LB coach. He got the absolute most out of his talent and played for 16 years. Sometimes the HOF’ers make crappy coaches because they can’t relate to the avg player. Sure wouldn’t be the case with Fletcher.

  • Bears-4-Ever
    • huntinbare

      I miss Marinelli…it is telling that he commanded such loyalty from the players and Emery could not detect that asking his advice and not heading his imput would go unnoticed in the licker room. Basically Trestman started with a bunch of disgruntled employees; and the eyes of scrutiny were just waiting to cry out at the smallest of issues. Wish Phil would have realized that Marinelli was a glue to hold the team together and honor that.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Wait… Wasn’t Emery culpable for insisting with Marinelli as the DC even when Arians said he wanted his own DC in Todd Bowles… and that’s the reason Emery didn’t hire Arians ?

        Fot the 100th time… decide on a fucking anti Emery story and go along with it. This weak contradictory shit in becoming more that pathetic.

        Bears… at least leak the same version of your crap.

        PS: when I say ‘decide’ I’m not talking about you ‘huntin’… I’m talking about the anti Emery propaganda

        • huntinbare

          Are you saying Phil defered to Marinelli and let Arians go because Phil would have to let Rod go for Bowles.?
          Rod wanted Arians as HC; so do you think Phil went back to Rod and told him; “I would have to let you go even though I know you want Arians here. He wants Bowles.”?
          Marinelli left angry something happened; and I do know that his departure had a deep effect on the players.
          Since George and Ted do not seem to be yielding any power as of yet; they may just be scapegoating; but that is all behind us…
          No Jethro Tull …(living in the past)…I miss the Marinelli approach to D …find a suitable replacement ; I want to enhance my enjoyment, selfish as it sounds I prefer watching a good defense rather than a good offense.I never have figured that part of me out yet.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          who cares they are all gone.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Nothing endears one to people like asking for their honest opinion and then tossing said opinion into the trash been.

      Like the autograph seeker who promptly takes the signature, crumples it up and tosses it on the floor.

      • CanadaBear

        Whenever someone does that to me, the next time they ask for an opinion or advice I have none,

        • huntinbare

          You could ask how much they are paying you for it; if they invest in something they become afraid nit to use it….people hate losing moola.

  • huntinbare

    I believe that our current QB should have no bearing on the new hires. He is high profile; but he can also be percieved as just another player. Trouble with JC is everybody keeps adjusting to make him work…I think it is time to move past that mentality and complete this course correction properly. We have always wanted a great QB; so get a pool of talented coaches in house through these new hires that will draft and develop our future QB…That means using some of our current assets to acquire decent draft picks for the next three drafts. What is the landscape for current college QBs looking say 3 years out? Gamble on getting a player who has shown they are able to achieve continued development. He does not have to be the “hiesman profile” rather find one with tools that can be had and work at their maturation. We have never put a system in place to do this but we should…even if they just come close you end up having assets developed that would be highly sought after and trade value for future acquisituon of the “golden boy”. QB development department upgrade please; to maximize future returns.

    • Scott W.

      Cutler-centric

      • huntinbare

        The Bears universe needs to move to another galaxy and find better orbs to rotate around…his light is waning…

        • Scott W.

          Yeah. That, or get him tested for severe depression.

  • GPLDAN

    DeCosta was born East Coast and the Jets are going to pay him big. He won’t come here.

    Here is who the Pollard Alliance wants for the Bears:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-bears-gm-candidates-20141230-story.html

  • BillW

    I must say I have little to no opinion on gm and hc candidates. Someone (probably haugh) said the fan base is leery with Phillips involved and if George really cared he’d make it known teddy is not the decision maker. I agree with that

    Biggs and mully disagreed on coach first vs gm first. Though Biggs said narrow down the coach candidates this week then get the gm on board and have him make the final call. Or something to that efdect

    Reading all of your opinions with great interest. But I have little to add to the discussion

    • AlbertInTucson

      This is impossible to predict but I’dlike to see a GM hired first.

    • willbest

      Because he cares more about his friendship with a loyal and trusted family adviser than what a segment (and its maybe 10% of the entire fan base) actually thinks he should be doing to appease them.

      And quite frankly he is making the correct decision. Fans are fickle and will never be satisfied. Good friends are hard to come by.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      they’re very friendly towards the Bears… the majority of Chicago media. All they do is kiss ass, contrary to their labeling.
      That’s why I like Rosemblom…he’s not.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Shouldn’t they hire a GM first?

  • BillW

    By the way barb is making more and more sense to me lately.

    • AlbertInTucson

      !?!

      • BillW

        It scares me too

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      hahhah… you know what the strange fact is… I haven’t change one opinion from the beginning of all this, if not from 1 year ago. It’s the same shit over and over again.
      I’m glad I finally ‘broke’ trough. Not to convince anybody, but at least talk about it. Enrich the discussion.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        i don’t think you broke through.. i think BillW just quit taking his anti-senility medications.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          why would he ever quit on his crystal meth ‘treatment’ ?

  • BillW

    I do know one thing. No matter who they pick packer fans will ridicule the choices

    • AlbertInTucson

      So will a lot of Bear fans.

  • CanadaBear

    I think it was Morrisey at the S-T’s that wrote a hatchet job about George cheering for the Bears on Sunday. The owners box was next to the press box and all the writers could see George getting amped up all game. That shit pisses me off. If George sat there like a bump on a log they would have killed him for that. Can’t speak for anyone else but it made me feel a little better about the future knowing the guy in charge is passionate about the team.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 85Bears4eva!(AKA ButchDeadlift

      George was more passionate about that game than I was. I couldn’t even pretend to care (beyond draft position).
      Also, if George is truly emotionally involved as that, then he must feel the Cutty bone-headed INTs to fat dudes as intensely as the rest of us.

      • CanadaBear

        That was my take on George. Not just about Cutler, the entire team. Mikey couldn’t be bothered and Ginny acts like it’s not her place to be in charge. Who knows about the rest of the clan?

    • AlbertInTucson

      The guy sits with the FANS at soldier field. He got assaulted by a Saints fan who tried to take his seat.

      The Writers these days are mostly souless hacks.

    • Scott W.

      Good shot Canada.

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