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Does Kony Ealy Fit the Emery Selection Mold (And Other Draft Week Questions)

| May 5th, 2014

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I’m not much for draft guessing or mock drafting as it’s known in the sports media biz. And when it comes to the Chicago Bears under Phil Emery it is sometimes easier to try and pinpoint the proper questions as opposed to searching for the elusive answers.

Question #1

Does Kony Ealy fit the Emery mold as a first round draft pick? 

Here is what I think we should look for when trying to figure the direction Emery might venture in the first round: physically gifted athlete, versatile, projected to go 10 or so picks after the Bears are slotted. With the discussion of Ealy being evaluated as a DE who can slide inside to the three-tech, the buzz is starting to grow that he may be featured at a Halas Hall press conference early next week.

Question #2

Is Emery serious about ignoring developmental quarterbacks?

He should be. From an article on NFL.com:

“I just did a little study. It’s very interesting,” Emery said, per ESPN.com. “That developmental theory doesn’t hold a whole lot of water.

“There’s entire classes of quarterbacks, since ’06, I went back and looked at from Jay’s on — when people say developmental quarterbacks, OK, so who has gotten developed? There isn’t a single quarterback after the third round since 2006 that has been a long-term starter. So you’re either developing thirds, and most of them have been wiped out of the league. So to get a quality quarterback, you’ve got to draft them high. That 2012 class is a blip on the radar that’s unusual, highly unusual.”

I’ve been arguing this forever. The notion of taking a late-round QB to develop him is a fallacy. And I would take Emery’s point a step further. If you go through those same draft classes, from ’06 on, you will find multiple long-term starters drafted at the third round at every single other position on the field. Developmental players are important. Developmental quarterbacks rarely escape the developmental label.

Question #3

What is going on with the quarterbacks?

What the Bears will be looking at when the fourteenth pick is on the clock will be entirely determined by which quarterbacks have gone off the board. Vikings? Bucs? Texans? Raiders? Browns? Everybody ahead of the Bears seems to need a quarterback but are any of these quarterbacks really good? If all these clubs adapt the “we’ll get our guy in round two” mentality, the Bears might be staring at a barren board come fourteen.

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  • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

    Does Dennard become a Bear at 14?

    2:33 Videogame interception return.

    • I think he’s the best CB in this years’ draft. Love him.

    • SC Dave

      That is a cool return to be sure

  • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

    #1 Kony was my first draft thought, then we got Jared, but moving him inside to 3T? He’s 273lbs according to CBS. It would take him months to put on the required muscle to go with any extra weight. We were concerned about Donald’s weight? This dude is an end. If you draft him then he goes in with Jared. As long as we drafted a Justin Ellis or Will Sutton (to lose 15lbs) then I’d be okay with the pick. Puts the kibosh on your DBs maybe. We could hit on a CB in the third and draft that Kenny Ladler guy in the 4th, put him in the mix. Fix the line first, it helps out the DBs anyway.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      From CBS Sports:

      STRENGTHS: Ealy’s athleticism jumps off the tape. Operating mostly at RDE for the Tigers, Ealy shows good initial quickness off the snap to force right tackles into respecting his speed rush, but saw time all over the defensive line and even as a stand-up linebacker. He has a quick spin move back to the inside to complement his speed and has developing pass-rush technique, including an over-arm swim and a power slap. Perhaps best of all, Ealy possesses the flexibility to turn the corner efficiently and closes quickly, demonstrating the ability to rip the ball free from the quarterback with a powerful chop or with an explosive collision. Impressive straight-line acceleration for a man of his size. Good recognition to get his hands into passing lanes when he can’t get to the quarterback. Times his leap well and long arms and good hand-eye coordination. Undeniable upside.

      WEAKNESSES: Ealy is prone to coming off the snap too high, making himself vulnerable to cut blocks and is a more effective pass rusher than run defender, at this time. While possessing the burst and balance to attack off the edge out of the two-point stance, Ealy looks uncomfortable dropping back into coverage and offers minimal experience in this area. Has been surrounded by a lot of talent at Missouri and may struggle early in the NFL if expected to be the star..

      . COMPARES TO: Robert Quinn, St. Louis Rams – Considering that Quinn finished second in the NFL with 19 sacks in 2013, he’s a tough comparison for any rookie but there is no denying Ealy’s upside. He boasts the length, burst and developing technique that every scout is looking for off the edge. If he continues to develop his game, Pro Bowls are in his future. –Rob Rang

      • Shady

        Compares to Robert Quinn?

        Yes please!

    • Trac

      You draft a late round QB as a serviceable backup. Developmental projects are only one side of the coin.

      • Big Mike

        Free Agent cast offs are a better bet.

        • Trac

          There’s only so many of them and the good ones don’t come cheap.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            i’d take a Jordan Palmer 10 out of 10 instead of a late round 22yr old COLLEGE quarterback who wasn’t even good enough to be one of the best in COLLEGE. Then you want to throw that kid into the hellfire that is the NFL? Nope.
            There are plenty of 25-30yr old vet quarterbacks that would be happy to hold a clip board for peanuts and then to trot out there in a pinch to throw some short routes to the best WR/TE/RB pass catching group in the league.

          • gpldan from Eastern Front

            Tavaris Jackson is UFA? Has Seattle let him go or what?
            Rex Grossman or Brady Quinn? No.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            Ahhh, Rex Appeal. Those were the days.

          • tobijohn

            I don’t see how anyone can disagree with this….

          • Big Mike

            Not true. You’re looking at the guys that hit FA early. I’m talking about guys on the scrap heap, who just never got in a good situation. Brady Quinn, Kevin Kolb, Jon Kitna hell even a guy like Jimmy Clausen who hasn’t thrown played since forever ago. Before you laugh Josh was coaching HS football…

        • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

          Always.

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        nope

    • el_caney

      How many years are Allen´s game left? Can Houston move to 3T in passing situations to allow to move the best man among Young, Chiken dinner and Ealy (possible) to right end? I don´t find ludicrous go for Ealy.

      unless you are Andrew or Manning coming from college, every QB is a gamble..

  • MB30SD

    None of us knows wtf emery is going to do sadly. I really hope he’s learned his lesson about trying to be the smart guy, and just makes the moves that make 100% logical sense.

    * Draft your franchise safety at 14 (if one of the two guys are there – I still take dix over pryor although I think Pryor will be the guy)

    * you get the best possible huge DT in 2… and you give up your 4 and maybe a 6 to get him if you have to.

    * you take the best available big cb still on the board in 3. Your 3rd most position of need and supposedly one of the deepest positions in this draft. You use your super emery skills here to find the kam chancellor of cbs.

    * you do NOT fucking reach for some unknown guy with ‘tons of upside’ until you’re out of the 3rd round. PERIOD.

    * just make the moves that make utter sense in 1 – 3, then you can get your wtf on in 4 – 6.

    It just makes sense don’t it?

    • DaBearsBlog

      Just because the mock draft “experts” say a guy is a reach doesn’t mean the NFL thinks the same. Kyle Long is perfect example.

      • Big Mike

        Therein lies the rub. Won’t know for quite a while. were the “experts on target” was it a reach? All just fun to talk about.

    • Big Mike

      Just because you say it over and over and over again, doesn’t make it any more true. We’re close enough now, that speculation just doesn’t matter. Long was a reach, he worked out. Emery reaches again, all we can really do is say we’ll see. Same thing if he takes one of the 4-5 guys that are being linked to the Bears. The draft talk is fun, but the closer it gets, the realization that it just doesn’t f’n matter starts to hit. Doesn’t matter, because its still all just on paper.

      Don’t get me wrong, I will be much happier with him sticking with the script in round 1. Go ahead and surprise me in round 2 or 3. But let’s not see Kony Ealy or Jernigan if Pryor is on the board. BTW, I like Pryor over Ha-Ha.

      • Jokey

        Why Pryor?

        • Big Mike

          1) Better against the run
          2) Drop off in coverage skills isn’t as big as commonly perceived to be. Coverage skills can be improved and taught. Being an intimidating presence in the middle cannot be. (hell they don’t even teach tackling anymore).
          3) I am always afraid of guys from uber dominant college programs.

          • MB30SD

            1) Is cut and plays much more like an NFL SS
            2) His style will lend to him hurting himself while getting fined by the NLF, and possibly miss a lot of time
            3) His frame is maxed out at 5’11” 205ish… Dix is 6’1″ and 212 and can get bigger

      • SC Dave

        I remain in the draft a DT first camp. The line is ALWAYS the most important.

        • Big Mike

          I agree. But only to the extent that it gets a higher waited value. If you apply that to your position independent grade on each player, you have to go with the higher value. One issue I see is that according to NFL GMs, scouts, mock draft experts etc, the drop off at DT after the 1st round guys is much less than the drop off at Safety. So the question is if you have one of your top 2 safeties available, but only the 4th or 5th best DT, you got to go safety. Right?

          • MB30SD

            this.

            That’s the problem dave, after clowney and donald, all the other guys are not #14 picks… they’re reaches, and the opty cost of not getting one to the top two safeties or CBs (both positions of need, one of dire 10+ year need), then the cost is WAY too high this year.

            Gotta take one of the top two safeties or CBs at 14… unless donald is there, then I’m all in taking a flyer on him and getting buchannon in rd 2 by any means nec.

          • SC Dave

            Again, cannot fault the reasoning. I’m just not as convinced as many that safeties are so important other than making sure they can tackle in the open field to prevent TDs on what should be 15 to 20 yard plays.

            To claim safety is a “dire” need on a defense that was in the upper echelon of the NFL for almost the entire 10+ years you reference should at least give one pause to ponder.

            Of course, having freakish MLB coverage abilities may have helped a little there.

          • MB30SD

            right. We don’t have lach any more and we’ll be running a hybrid (supposedly) so I think good safeties will be much more important now. Check out what seattle just paid earl thomas to come back. If we’re modeling our new D scheme after them, we better pick up dix/pryor AND buchannon. We’ll see how it all shakes out this year…

            another factor I forgot to mention is that dline is deep this year while safety is not… and we can get a monster like sutton in rd 2 so we can take care of FS and DT in the first two rounds… and maybe even also pick up williams off the wire. Think about that D. Wow. Emery will have almost done to the D what he did to the o if that happens.

          • SC Dave

            I hope you’re right; I’m not quite sold on the line (tho like last year, Emery’s focus is FA is pretty much beyond reproach) so we need to get a tackle someplace. Maybe we can get our Richard Dent of DTs in the 6th? 🙂

          • MB30SD

            I’d be willing to bet on sutton in the 2nd and williams off the wire. In one year’s time, that’s a ridiculous improvement. Not perfect, but amazing transformation… now all we need is for everyone to stay healthy.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            If we got Donald and Bucannon, that’s a solid draft right there. Two out of two starters.

          • SC Dave

            I cannot fault the logic. Assuming, of course, one shares the opinion with the pundits of who the top 5 are. We don’t know what Phil’s draft board looks like at DT, and I’m sure he wants it that way.

          • Big Mike

            Which is exactly why in my post I did not use names, but instead said top x players at a given spot. I have to trust that emery has a view of the top x players at each position as well as an absolute ranking that is better than the “pundits”. Based on both his unique view of the bears agenda, better intel to each player (firsthand, medical etc) and having done exactly this professionally for 30 years.

          • SC Dave

            More properly, I should have said that “assuming one agrees that the drop-off after the first two DT is that large”. But we’re basically agreeing, so we need to wait for Thursday. Not sure I’ll be around here for it tho 🙁

          • Big Mike

            Very glad the Hawks are on.

        • Big Mike

          I remain in the “I hope one of the top DTs is still there” Camp. I’m also a permanent resident of the praying for the kind of draft that gets featured on ESPN “How Dynasties are Built”, camp.

    • el_caney

      Yes.. Pile 2 & 3 rounds up!!

  • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

    Or Jason Verrett ? The back-pedal and turn on this guy ….

  • Big Mike

    I don’t know when I first posted it, but I’ve argued this entire off season about what a joke it is to think that selecting a late round QB to “Develop” is a wasted pick. You take a QB to be “developed” in round 1 or 2, next year, when you are drafting 31 or 32… see how I did that.

    Here’s to a bunch of QBs getting drafted. But what if Bortles is sitting there? Nah…

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      I’d lead the angry mob line at Halas Hall if Bortles is selected at 14. Anybody wanna fly me up there if that happens, I carry one mean pitchfork.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Those of us that followed the draft process knew of Shea McClellin in 2012, he was a late riser that was being mocked late 1st round to 3-4 teams as an OLB even though he played DE in college. We also knew about Kyle Long in 2013 but he was projected to go in the early to mid 2nd round. I wouldn’t expect Phil to draft someone we’ve never heard of (as I was reading in the prior thread) and if it does end up being a “shocking” pick it will be someone that was brought up here at least once but was projected a 1/2 or full round later. Someone like Hageman, Tuitt or Kareem Martin (as much as I like him, no thanks at 14). It’s not gonna be Aaron Lynch from USF or someone like that. Deone Bucannon would be fine in the 20’s if we traded back but not in the top 15 please.
    Here’s the thing though, it only takes one other team picking ahead of you to express interest in a player you like that will scare you into reaching (those of us that still play fantasy and draft know what that’s like). For the most part, you have to wait 32 picks before you get to pick again. If the Texans have Aaron Donald as the top player on their board and can’t trade back they should take him at 1 because they won’t get another shot at him. I understand why McClellin and Long were picked. Phil is batting .500, he swung for the fences both times and struck out once and hit a homer. If Phil really likes Bucannon and can’t trade back, he should take him if he’s the highest rated defensive player on the board when we pick. I will be pissed but I don’t get paid to evaluate talent for a living.

    • Big Mike

      Agreed. Only thing I’d add is we were drafting quite a bit further back in those years and a 1/2 guy was closer to where we are. Now we are in the early middle of round 1.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        I agree, I’ll use Jimmie Ward as an example, he is not rising late, there is a significant chance he will be around at 51 or at least in the neighborhood. If Ward is the highest rated player on your board, you can select the 2nd highest rated non-safety player on the board. If it’s getting close to 51 and you’re getting antsy, you can trade up a few slots (like he did with Alshon). That’s why it pays to have good intel on other teams and to not only guage your value of a player but to learn how other teams value players so that you get as much value as possible.

        • Big Mike

          Yep.

    • SC Dave

      McClellin is more like a 1-3 ground out than a K. But I’m not ready to give up on him yet. One more year (you know, like a Cubs fan – “there’s always next year”)

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        The Emery fan in me wants to see Shea crush it this year.

        • SC Dave

          The Bears fan in me wants the same.

  • Big Mike

    Ealy plays like Bostic. Don’t need another one of those. The one we have is just fine.

  • gpldan from Eastern Front

    Jeff tweets:

    Sun-Times mock draft has Bears taking Chris Borland and De’Anthony Thomas. Anybody else written about them lately?

    Jeff, let it go. The only people who read the Sun Times sports section are you and Chet Coppick.

    • SC Dave

      When do I get to see the Sturmovik, GP?

      • gpldan flying Yak-9

        Za Russian Stuuuuuuka?

        • SC Dave

          A little better than a Stuka… but all things are relative to their time.

  • If you’re drafting a QB in the later rounds, you’re looking to develop him as a backup. So the more important question is: how many guys on rosters right now who are backups were drafted round 4 or later?

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      it’s like the grapes of wrath out there for NFL vets. You can get veteran quarterbacks that have a couple years of NFL training, camp experience and study time for almost nothing. The thought of wasting a pick on a 4th RD or later QB would be baffling. Those rounds are for DL/OL fodder or high talent guys that pee’d on their coach or punched a baby or some shit.

      • gpldan from Eastern Front

        Oh…my. Look at the beauty of this strafing run. A Steinbeck drop. Steinbeck! Do you see this elsewhere? No. Peed on the coach? This is like when the Me109 almost killed Patton. Sweet sweet piloting.

        • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

          lol, stop comparing me to the Luftwaffe

          • That might be the best nickname in a while. Luftwaffle is going anywhere!

            Da Blog is like the military. Once you get a nickname, it’s engraved on your tombstone.

            Scene: Johhny’s funereal in 2079

            MB: Poor Waffle.
            Canada: How did he die anyway?
            MB: He was pounding a case of Bushmills at porn convention in Bankok, then dropped dead. He got some of the best CPR from a train of porn stars, but alas, their blowing expertise failed to revive him.
            Corm: Well, if you gotta go…
            MB: Yup.
            GP: [arriving late in his 2080 Bugati HoverCraft, limited edition]. Did I miss anything?
            Canada: Not really.
            GP. Johhny. I would say may angels serenade you in heaven, but we all know angels are archetypal myths created to relieve human suffering and to control the masses by the power players.
            Irish: you mean, Tall Whites. [takes off tin foil hat out of respect]
            GP: RIP, Luffewaffle… [lays down a Cutler doll in casket. Fade to black…by Jeff Joniak]

          • gpldan from Eastern Front
          • LOLZ…(literally).

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            That looks like Wrecks ….

          • MB30SD

            Brilliant.

            Jeff… make this play happen.

      • Big Mike

        There are 3rd string guys fighting to be 2nd string guys who have started in the league. After the draft, there will be a number of guys available with time in the league. I think that’s the best way to go right now.

    • Shady

      Hey, nice work on getting a question in on ESPN Mike C Wright’s column.

      • nice work on him just copy and pasting a quote everybody’s already seen.

    • gpldan from Eastern Front

      To answer your question, data, I am going to guess the answer is none. Correct?

  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

    quick question my blog brethren:
    Lost in the Aaron Donald/Pryor/Dix shuffle and what above average QB is going where and at what ludicrously high selection, what happens if Anthony Barr drops to 14????

    • gpldan from Eastern Front

      Barr vs. Top Pass-Rushers at the Combine

      Height, Weight 40 Time Bench 3-Cone
      Anthony Barr (UCLA)6’5″, 255 4.66 15 6.82
      Khalil Mack (Buffalo)6’3″, 251 4.65 23 7.08
      Jadeveon Clowney (S. Carolina)6’6″, 266 4.53 21 7.27
      Ryan Shazier (Ohio State)6’1″, 237 4.38*25 6.91
      Dee Ford (Auburn)*6’2″, 252 4.59 29 7.07

      Only 15 on the bench had everyone re-stating his athletic ability.

      He also has Kellen Davis face:
      http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/874/852/8b415792773e7051cb4b07cd16352f93_crop_north.jpg?w=630&h=420&q=75

      He seems like another Chicken Dinner to me.

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        his bench is yucky and deep down I know we need S and DT. I then just realized we signed David Bass again and let go of Cheta so it looks like Bass is that last DE and we go DT/S or S/DT in rd 1 and 2.
        Just the thought of crazy edge pressure has me thinking of stupid QB decisions resulting in us all getting Steltz/Conte and Frey jerseys.

        • they didn’t re-sign Bass. They have him under contract for the next 3 years. Claimed him off waivers from OAK, which means his rookie deal as a 7th round pick transfers over

      • MB30SD

        look at those stats… fuck these kids are getting silly. all so fast and big man. ridiculous.

        • SC Dave

          Hormones in the meat?

          • MB30SD

            did you watch the TED talk I posted on it last thread I think? Really interesting.

            Here you are: http://www.ted.com/talks/david_epstein_are_athletes_really_getting_faster_better_stronger

          • SC Dave

            Not yet, but I will once Carmina Burana is over. It’s turned up a bit loud.

          • MB30SD

            check it out. Fascinating.

          • SC Dave

            No shit, especially the last few minutes. The running stuff has barely started, probably. Pursuit predation is one of the theories of how our species conquered the planet, and it seems we may be just beginning to understand how good we are at it.

          • MB30SD

            one thing’s for sure, we’re excellent at fucking it up.

    • Shady

      Can’t have too many pass rushers…

      Listen. Folks who react strongly one way or the other to draft picks before the player has had a chance to take the field in the NFL don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about. Having a passionate reaction one way or the other tells me that person put way too much stock into their own or someone else’s pre-draft analysis. Give the kid a chance to play before blasting him and/or the GM.

      Personally, I care a whole lot more about drafting difference makers than I care about at what position. Finding difference makers, pro-bowlers etc. means a while heck of a lot more to a team than simply plugging a hole on the roster for a few years.

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        That’s why the draft is awesome. Chreestmas for football adults. I don’t know who we are getting and i’m giddy to watch a team like the Jags or Raiders totally fuck it up so we get a top tier guy to get one step closer to post season glory.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

        That’s why I won’t cry if he drafts a DE. We’ve got Houston, Allen, some flag-magnet in Willie Young, and a couple of guys purporting to be pass-rushers. Not exactly a bed-wetting prospect. But having the quickness of Donald in there would be hella-sexy.

    • I put up Shea’s and Barr’s profile, and their measurable are eerily similar. As a matter of fact, Shea ran a faster 40 and benched more (plus had MUCH more experience at LB/DE).

      So if you draft Barr, you better be sure that Barr’s far more explosive and “quick twitch” than Shea, or else you’re getting a slower, weaker, greener Shea.

    • Big Mike

      I don’t think that is as unlikely as you make it sound. I’ve seen a number of mocks with Barr going to the Cowboys at 16. Also.. he’s a 3-4 guy. Not a natural fit at 4-3.

      • That’s what they said about Shea (see below/above)

        • Big Mike

          and we shouldn’t spend a number 1 on a guy that doesn’t fit.

  • gpldan from Eastern Front

    Blog Q: It appears that the Seahawks will release Tavaris now that they have Pryor. Take him as Jordan insurance?

    • Shady

      No.

      • gpldan from Eastern Front

        Your rationale is that a guy who can’t cut it on the Bills is shit?

        • Shady

          Yes, that, and also because he doesn’t fit the Trestman offense and simply sucks at playing QB.

          • He simply sucks.

            For brevity’s sake.

          • Big Mike

            I believe there are QBs that look like the “simply suck” would no longer suck, with Trestman’s approach and the weapons the Bears have.

            Tavaris, however is not one of them.

    • el_caney

      Never, I pass vikings´ trash

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      Kyle. We don’t really need insurance for JP, because if Cutler goes down it’s season over anyway. We need insurance for Cutler.

      Palmer had better be one amazing baller.

  • Doc Nitty

    Repost:

    Chess anyone? Download the app “Chess by Post” on your phone (free). My username is docnitty. A while back some if us were talking about chessin it up. Can’t remember who else. Who besides Cor is my Huckleberry?

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      I retired from chess after beating a 757 enroute to Abu Dhabi, sorry.

  • gpldan from Eastern Front

    Jeff –

    Are we getting a thread where we get to guess who gets picked? And we win some swag if we guess right?

    My guess is that Phil pulls a Phil and goes offense in Rnd 1, taking Eric Ebron.

    • I wouldn’t mind that if Donald, Pryor, Gilbert were gone.

      I wanted Sharrif or Eifert last year when we were on the clock.

      Ebron and Dix on the board…I got a dilemma.

      • MB30SD

        you know me… I ain’t got no dilemas. I’m running up to suck me some dix… right off the board and into Halas. No questions, no second though… I just runs me up there to grab my Dix.

    • Shady

      Nah. Emery seems to address NEED, he just has been doing it by selecting a player most draftniks have going 10-15 picks later. So, expect a S or DT at 14, but one who most thought would get selected late 1st or early 2nd.

      • gpldan from Eastern Front

        Emery seems to address NEED, he just has been doing it by selecting a player most draftniks have going 10-15 picks later.

        You THINK that, but Phil’s one defining characteristic is to defy any attempt to assign him a characteristic.

        It would be SO PHIL to take a Tight End in Rnd 1.

        Anyhow – question stands – we need a thread for this guessing.

        • Shady

          Mmmm yes. Quite.

          • MB30SD

            right-o old chap

    • Big Mike

      Booo

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      maybe a sleeper Ebron pick and move up in the 2nd to make sure you get an impact S or DT?
      risky but fear boners would immediately sprout amongst D coordinators in NFC North. Yeah, our slot guy is 6’5 250 get ready to take it hard and fast Captain Munnerlyn you little twerp.

      • gpldan from Eastern Front

        I am not on Irish’s moon casino with the Chinese mafia giving me insider info on that, either.

        Guys on the Score think the one player that would sway Phil from a defensive pick would be Ebron, were he there. Well, Adam Hoge and Hub think that, anyhow.

        With some mocks showing Donald leaping over Mack, I think it’s a totally reasonable guess. Is that my final answer? Yes, yes it is.

        • That would be my guess too for a few reasons (not the least of which is that the TE drop off after Ebron is huge)

          The 2nd TE can function much like a nickle. They may not “start” but they can get up to 50% of the reps, depending on how the game flows.

          Ebron, Bennett, B-Marsh, Alshon, Forte in a double TE package. Damn. That would a juggernaut.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            jesus, that would be a video game package.

          • Bender McLugh

            Bennett? Oh damn, seriously thought of Earl. *tear*

        • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

          I think it really comes down to if the Raiders, Vikings, Bucs and Browns all possibly take these QB’s.
          I see Raiders pulling an Al Davis and going WR even though they tend to forget that Offensvie Linemen are needed and a quarterback sometimes helps to get the ball to the WR’s.

          • Raider’s are a horribly run team.
            They let their franchise LT (Valdheer) walk, even they though had a war chest, and now they NEED a LT along with all the other positions. I don’t think ANY Raider pick would surprise me at this point. They can draft Borland in the top 5, and I would be “Only the Raiders…”

          • Shady

            I thought that was called Jerry Angelo syndrome.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            lol, Angelo, what a piece of fucking work. Brings in a Franchise QB, then proceeds to ignore OL and WR for 4 years.

          • bearsfantillend

            but he had the offensive line guru Tice, a the great JWebb with all his potential on the line. what more do you need.

          • SC Dave

            I’ve always wondered how much of the “Angelo fail” was a shared thing.

        • el_caney

          don´t pick “mister´s so” mocks seriously.. everyone can has got an opinion.. and opinions most of the times are far from reallity. Donald jumping Mack no way……

    • DaMurph

      With ya gp,I called that several posts ago. If Ebron is there, he’s a Bear.

  • I would make the argument that Emery is not hitting at a 50% rate when it comes to WTF picks. By my count.
    Shea WTF? -1
    Rodriguez (WTF? We have Clutts) -1
    Hardin (WTF? Didn’t we get RID of Angelo?)
    Long (WTF? A 24 yr old rookie who barely played the position. Plus, Sharrif is still on the board) +1

    The rest, off the top of my head, I can understand.

    So really, with WTF picks, Emery’s hitting 25%.

    Some may counter: you can’t tally later round pick, but a whiz GM SHOULD be able to find gold in later rounds.

    • Big Mike

      Great points, but I add this.

      Trading up to get Alshon is as much of a WTF as taking Hardin. I forgot about Rodriguez. But he wasn’t as much of a WTF as he was a guy with huge upside who didn’t work out.

      • Alshon wasn’t a WTF pick for me, at all. I thought he would go late first round, early, early 2nd (like top 5). I was thrilled we traded up for Alshon. I think most of the Blog was pretty happy with that move in general. The others…not so much.

        • Big Mike

          I don’t disagree. My point is neither was Hardin. He had the potential to be the answer at Safety. Nobody predicted Alshon turning into a BEAST!! Mostly, I’m defending our leader Emery.

          • I’m rooting for Emery too, but 25% success rate with WTF picks does not make me overly optimistic.

            I’m hoping like MB that it was due to the Lovie stank and that now Emery is free to strut his stuff.

          • Big Mike

            Based on your definition of WTF. I’ve not analyzed it closely. Because after the first two rounds, it’s such a crap shoot that they all are a bit WTF.

          • MB30SD

            no, no he didn’t mike. Hardin was a career corner who hadn’t played football in 2 years because of massive injuries. It was a bizzar pick and I will contend again that that entire draft has lovie, tice, and mari written all over it.

            That’s my theory and I’m sticking to it… why, because while emery’s first “him only” draft last year didn’t blow doors, it kinda actually did. We ended up with FOUR starters (albeit, 2 of the 4 due to catastrophic events on D), none of the picks were total out of thin air WiTF picks like almost all of his first draft.

            I’ve put this out there that I thought his first draft was HEAVILY lovie regime influenced, as follows:

            CD – Marinelli… I remember reading mari LOVED CD especially after his visit. Yes, I know emery copped to this pick, but what was he going to do, blame mari?!

            Hardin – Lovie… white, athletic, a massive injury prone fucking corner. Sound familiar? This was lovie’s forte… had his name all over it. Same with conte.

            Ashlon – THIS was phils pic, and the only smart ‘move’ we made that whole year.

            Remember that lovie was running the show during this draft… he was essentially phil’s boss that year. Anyway… that’s my theory anyway.

          • Cormonster

            I tend to agree. Lovie had a lot more say in the draft room after he got a contract extension following the SB. That didn’t work out so well.

          • SC Dave

            Actually, I did not predict Alshon being a beast, but I was rather vocal about getting him. I watched that kid play at USC (the *original* USC, I mean) and he showed a lot. Especially playing with QBs that weren’t worth much.

          • Big Mike

            He completely shocked me. I was aware of him, because a lot of kids from my area go to college in South Carolina. Some sort of in-state tuition reciprocity. He was overweight his senior year, looked slow. Had great hands, but his weight planted the work ethic seed of doubt and I thought he’d be a third rounder, not a Pro -Bowl guy.

            I love being wrong like that.

          • SC Dave

            We *all* love you being wrong about that 🙂

          • MB30SD

            I hope you can say the same to me about CD this year Dave.

          • SC Dave

            I’ll drink to that… salut!!

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            I never got the hate on Hardin. Nobody here knows anything about Hardin’s football ability – who’s seen the guy play? All I’ve seen on here is Hardin getting hammered – why ?

          • Big Mike

            That’s funny.

  • Someone on the Blog needs to somehow hang out with Donald, get him drunk and ticketed. Nothing major, maybe something like “public intoxication”. Just enough to move him down a few slots.

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      on it

  • I’m going on record: if Boyd is there in the 4rth, we draft him.
    Of all the “late round” QBs, he surprised me most.
    Now, if someone like HB Charles Sims is also there in the 4rth, or some d=stud who fell due to aforementioned golden shower on coach, then we take a swing there.

    But if it’s just a bunch of SP team fodder, Boyd.

    • SC Dave

      Interesting call. Taj is a wildcard – when you watch the Watkins reels, remember who was throwing the ball (for better or worse).

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      I like us getting a RB like Terrance West in the 4th – a guy we can use, not a guy we’ll never use … although Boyd is interesting, I’d be hoping I never saw him start.

  • Didn’t Emery also state that he would draft a QB in every draft if he could?

    Rope-a-dope.

    • Big Mike

      Good catch. Calling bullshit on the GM. He did say that. But I think the two comments are consistent. If he could, means the team is set and he could take a QB in the first or second round every year.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      If you take one in the fifth every year, that would be something, but if he’s serious in that you should only draft them high … then saying he would draft one every year is contradictory.

  • Ealy, 6’4 273
    Tuitt, 6’5 304
    One of those can move inside, the other cannot.
    Tuitt’s medical might make Emery a bit hesitant though.

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      Tuitt is freaking huge. Reminds me of Cullen Jenkins.

      • He is monstrous. 34″ vines, 10″paws to go with the 6’5 304 (He looks like a tree too, not like some pudgy umpa-lumpa).

        http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/stephon-tuitt?id=2543483

        I can see why Irish has a hard on for “Irish Chocolate”. But them knees…

        • MB30SD

          it’s ALLLLLLL about dem knees maings. Just ask tommy “butter” harris.

          You know how he gots the nickname…. dem knees maings. Nothing else matters.

          • DaMurph

            Dan Hampton is in the HOF with so many scopes on Monday and play on Sunday. If Tuitt has the mind set, don’t worry bout them knees.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m thinking Danimal’s pain tolerance and attitude might be a little off the charts compared to most mere mortals. I always worry about the knees.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            didn’t they make a cherry flavored chewable Codeine gummy treat back in the 80’s?

          • CanadaBear

            Probably. All my controlled substances came without a prescription!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • MB30SD

            yeah, kids these days aren’t built like that. At the first sign of discomfort most of these guys dive for the training table. It’s because they’ve been pampered their whole careers.

            Ironman football is rare these days. I’m with Canada.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m not sure it applies across the board but Danimal played through more pain and grotesque shit than any player I can remember. I’m not exactly sold on this generation of kids but I try not to say much.

            When I was hunting my generation was the last one to be represented. Occasionally some younger kid would join us but it was pretty rare. When they did, they couldn’t keep up and his dad would always leave with a major case of the ass. Never did figure out if the lack of the younger generation hunting was due to their laziness or their dad’s not taking them out. I always suspected laziness was the answer but really don’t know.

          • SC Dave

            I would say not taking them out. My father never took me out, so I never learned. And so I could not teach my son. And likely that just goes on, although my son seems more likely by inclination to learn than I was.

            Blasting a deer you’ve laid bait out for just does not appeal to me.

            Now, hunting pheasants with a bow… that’s more like it. Or if you want to consider the whole thing MANLY, go boar hunting with a friggin’ SPEAR.

            Hell, do hunters carry their kills back any more, or is it just strapping the carcass on the ol’ ATV and driving back to the pickup?

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

          Chocolate is Nix’ nickname ….

          I like Tuitt on the inside anyway, he’s not really a classic end in any way. He has the power to dominate that Donald is missing, so we shouldn’t really view him as a second rounder – he can be more dominant than Donald.

  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

    Mike Evans to the Lions? If i’m Detroit do I kill a guy in an alley to get him on the other side of Megatron?

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      I mean besides the normal every day alley killings?

      • MB30SD

        I was going to say….

      • SC Dave

        Actually, that would be more a Chicago thing, wouldn’t it?

    • el_caney

      That could force Emery´s hand to any safety or best aviable CB in the first two rounds. and left DT later…. Coleman in 3rd.

    • gpldan from Eastern Front

      If you chart the draft’s talent level, it’s both flat and high across the 1st round. This is a rich draft,

      i.e. it will cost a team a premium to trade-up this draft, and the player you get is possibly close to the player you would have gotten had you stayed put.

      i.e. the only reason you do it is you gotta have THAT player, it’s the piece you need to the puzzle to make that Super Bowl run.

      The Lions are nowhere near that position. They have to prove they can coach the above average talent they drafted and then look to start mortgaging the future.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      Means they pass on Donald, and they’re the team likely to take him from us, so it’s a nice antidote. Stafford drops back to pass, and is dropped by Donald, or pushed into Allen.

  • Big Mike

    Looking at Walter Football’s mock. He has Miami getting desperate for OL help and trading with the Bears to get to 14. Bears drop back to 19, pick up a 3rd round pick and taking Kyle Fuller in RD 1. (leaving Dennard on the board going at 20). He mocks them taking Kareem Martin, DE from NC in round 2. In round 3 he has us taking George Uko DT from USC AND Marcus Roberson CB Florida.

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      I would really like Kyle Fuller except that not having a starting safety on the team is kind of bringing me down. There is only one way to get by with average safeties and that is to kill every quarterback you go up against…on every single play.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

          Craig Steltz … a man barely alive …. we can rebuild him .. .we have the technology ….

      • Big Mike

        Here’s what Walter Football said. I like the trade, don’t agree withe Pick but Walter Football is saying BPA (on defense). Intriguing options available according to his mock are Dennard and CJ Mosley.

        “The Bears will be going with the top defensive player available who
        makes sense for them, and by my estimation, that’s Kyle Fuller. This
        regime has drafted players who can be utilized at multiple positions,
        and Fuller definitely fits the bill. He’s a natural cornerback, but he
        can also be used at safety, which is a huge need for Chicago. Chris
        Conte’s ineptitude was quite apparent in the win-and-in season finale
        versus the Packers.”

        • MB30SD

          Again, I am NOT a fan of taking a fucking guy who’s played probably nearly his entire 20+ year career at one position since pee wee fucking football, and moving him to a totally different position IN THE FUCKING NFL!!!!

          It’s fucking lunacy to me. Do that mickey mouse fucking shit in HS and MAYBE college. This is the big time with the big boys… try that shit and you end up with Chris fucking conte as your god damn FS for 2 utterly painful years.

          And please god don’t give me brian fucking urlacher as your main example… a once in a decade player who’s HOF, and who did NOT play safety in college… he was so damn good and so athletic that his DC CREATED a whole new fucking position just to take advantage of him. He was 6’4″ and 260, he was NEVER going to be a safety in the NFL.

          No mare god damn projects. Pick the motherfucking player you want at the position he’s fucking good at, ans guess what… chances of him being good at that same position are much more fucking likely. Yes, all the constant talk about this bullshit has finally pushed me over the fucking edge. Stop it, just fucking stop it.

          We need a fucking franchise FS, then you damn well draft one @ #14, need a young hungry angry huge DT, then pay the man your fucking 4th and 6th and move up to get your guy. Need a big CB to be there in case the nut goes down and to be groomed to take over… Get your guy in the 3rd. Problem solved, case closed, D fixed and draft knocked out of the park. Jesus H Christonabike.

          /Rant

          That wasn’t aimed at you btw mike, your post just provided the platform. Thank you, I feel better now.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            so……
            (sharpens pencil and scratches idea off of list)
            no projects…..

          • MB30SD

            Hahahaha… exactly.

          • Big Mike

            calm down sparky… 🙂

          • MB30SD

            I’ll do what i want mike, who the fuck are you?

            Oh sorry, I mean… yeah sure guy.

          • gpldan from Eastern Front

          • Big Mike

            Worried about your health, that’s all.

          • MB30SD

            I was just kidding maings. Gotta keep it lively. I’m not really pissed off… very few things in life actually piss me off.

            I do appreciate the worry though. besides, you have to let these things out or they will kill you.

          • Big Mike

            Maybe a bit of both but only in a ball busting way. I remember going batshit on this blog twice. Once after they took Kyle Long I wanted Shariff Floyd. And after a loss to the GB Packers in 2012. One I was just plain wrong. The second one I was drunk, but I knew the Bears would never beat GB with Lovie as the coach and I didn’t think he would get canned

          • el_caney

            but you are not angry, aren´t u??

          • el_caney

            I´ll give u another.. James “Big Cat” Williams, former DT and retired as pro ball RT

          • MB30SD

            yeah, when was that again? different NFL these days maing.

          • Trac

            I see you have your hands full today. lol

          • SC Dave

            Urlacher

          • MB30SD

            hahahahahahaha!

        • Shady

          “Chris Conte’s ineptitude was quite apparent in the win-and-in season finale versus the Packers.”

          Yes, yes it was, wasn’t it?

          • Trac

            Not so fast. That game came down to Julius Peppers being taken to the ground like a bitch.

          • gpldan from Eastern Front

            That game came down to Julius Peppers being taken to the ground like a bitch.

            By a fullback.

            Kuuuuuuuuuuuuhnnnnnnnn!!!!

          • Big Mike

            ugh.. that reminded me of how bad Peppers played. He sucked a cock in that game

          • Big Mike

            And.. it reminded me of the image of the whole defense looking at the f%#$#g ball on the ground… my 13 year old team would not do that. We dive on footballs, we hunt footballs. Funny story, one year I agreed to coach real young kids (like 10 years old) a bunch of first year players The ref dropped a football and half my team ran after it, one kid jumped on it. Ref wanted to call some penalty, but couldn’t figure out what, because the kids thought they did something good.

          • SC Dave

            And all the retards everyone quotes have to say is about Conte’s blown coverage. Why people listen to those assholes is beyond me. It’s almost as bad as listening to politicians.

          • Cormonster

            Would it be bad etiquette to give Bill Clinton a big, juicy cigar when Chelsea has her baby?

          • MB30SD

            almost as brutal as not just admitting when dogshit is dogshit. come on dave. conte blew the fucking coverage as plain as day man. You can’t blow a coverage harder than he did. This is as bad as the politicians too. At least pep got cut blocked and taken out of the play, conte has no one else to blame.

          • SC Dave

            Yes, he blew the coverage. And half the defense decided to leave a fumble on the ground. Which really lost the game? You will, of course, talk about Conte. But leaving that ball lying there without a whistle was the worst thing I’ve ever seen the Bears do. And I daresay I’ve been watching them a bit longer than you.

          • MB30SD

            I get it… and I agree with you, except one is Tucker’s fault, and the other is Conte’s. Straight up no questions.

            You do remember that I was also one of the vocal guys on the board wanting tucker gone ($ was the other). No matter what happened to the players, tucker’s piecemeal D had turrible discipline and basic nuts/bolts play. They weren’t a cohesive unit, there was no leadership, and shit like that ball on the ground happened.

            I wanted conte AND tucker gone after last year. So, yes, I agree with you.

          • SC Dave

            You can blame Tucker, but there were a bunch of PLAYERS ON THE FIELD that could have picked that ball up. Tucker was not one of them.

          • MB30SD

            as much as I hate lovie as a HC, he knows how to run a D… and tucker didn’t teach those kids right. I can’t remember if any of the vets were on the field near the ball for that play? Was briggsy there? I KNOW if peanut was on the field it NEVER would have happened.

          • SC Dave

            Sorry, not buying this one, MB. It’s like Mike wrote, his 13 year-old team would not do that. And these guys had plenty of coaches before Tucker.

            I still cannot believe that NOT ONE of them played to the whistle. Especially Greene (or was it Bostic) standing right next to the fucking ball.

          • tobijohn

            I think it was Anderson who REALLY should have known better…

          • MB30SD

            I don’t understand dave. These guys are 20 yr old kids who’ve been pampered and catered to their entire lives… If it’s not en grained in them every practice, it just isn’t there.

            Greene was a rookie that played on a broken D that wasn’t coached well. Yeah it’s totally on him and all of them for being idiots… it’s all on the coaching staff for not making it rote. These guys aren’t Rhodes skolurs my man

          • Big Mike

            Yes Conte sucked all year. Bad angles on run support, fell down twice and let passes go over his head for TD (Skins/Rams), but Rodgers was going to score on that drive. It was inevitable. He only needed 15 more yards to get into field goal range. There was no way the defense was getting a stop.

          • johnnywad

            And yet the gnashing of teeth, right here on this blog, over his departure. Still don’t get it.

          • tobijohn

            I lost no enamel off of my teeth. Even if he isn’t done, his time with the Bears was (unless, maybe, he was willing to work for about 1/3 of what he was due)…

          • johnnywad

            Same here Tobi. There just wasn’t enough value left there to fuss about.

          • bearsfantillend

            that fucker should have held his containment. GAWD i am still pissed about that.

          • tobijohn

            And I believe I read that Conte was never told that the coverage call had changed…

          • SC Dave

            Bottom line is the BEARS know what happened. And Conte is being given a chance to make the team, despite (or because of, but I don’t think injury settlements are expensive?) his injured shoulder.

          • MB30SD

            no, he was told, he just mind farted and didn’t switch into it. his team mates covered for him by saying ‘everyone else was playing man, we switched to man before the snap’ (paraphrasing)

            Conte was the only one still in zone of the 11 guys on D.

          • tobijohn

            You mean I can’t believe everything I read in the newspapers?

          • MB30SD

            that’s all I did. Just tried to have it all make sense TJ. Read everything I could to understand how that play could possibly have ended up so bad. The facts are sad, but we need an NFL caliber FS who doesn’t blow a simple but critically important and basic man v zone coverage call on the most important play of the year and his career.

          • tobijohn

            I’ll never forget the sweeping wave of nausea as I saw Cobb catch that pass with no one anywhere near him. I just kept looking at the screen dumbfounded…

          • MB30SD

            yeah, I saw conte peel off to the flat and realized he WAS the over the top guy and went oh fuck as the ball left vadger’s hand. Fuck man, I was just sitting there in disbelieve. Cobb in the end zone NO ONE within 10 yards of him. fuck.

          • tobijohn

            That and Rex’s INT to Hayden in the SB come to mind as the two greatest lowlights in my Bears watching over the last decade…

          • MB30SD

            lach blowing out his knee at the very end of a totally meaningless game was one for me. Fucking lovie.

          • tobijohn

            That would be a great offseason thread. Your worst Bear moments. Oh wait, more are starting to come back to me! How about Hanie’s TD pass to Jolly, that was pretty neat…

          • MB30SD

            I don’t know whether to vote that up or down. smh.

          • Cormonster

            My first bad Bears moment was a playoff game against the Eagles around 1979. I was 9, so I might be a little off. Walter had like an 80 yard TD run that was called back on a cheap holding penalty on Brian Bashnagel. Then Jaws threw two TD’s to Harold Carmichael, one of the first really tall receivers. The Bears lost, and the Eagles became the second team that I really hated, after the Packers of course.

          • SC Dave

            Speaking of awesome plays wasted on ridiculous penalties, it’s hard for me to remember one much worse than the Hester ruse allowing Knox to run that punt back against the Fudge. DAMNIT that call pissed me off. Still does. Fuck.

          • tobijohn

            Definite Top Ten lowlight….

          • MB30SD

            that reminds me… what about the TD called back… the fake to devin and johnny knoxville brokeback ran it all the way back while everyone else was looking in the opposite fucking direction. Thanks YOUR COUSIN if I remember correctly for the phantom hold.

          • el_caney

            Was posterised by Kuuuuuuuuhhhnnnnnn.

          • MB30SD

            which is why we should take a TE in rd 1?

          • Shady

            Exaaaaaactly.

            There’s no way Emery goes anywhere but defense @ 14. Don’t worry…

          • SC Dave

            Normal idiot meme of the sportswriter. Think he watched the play?

          • MB30SD

            it was as much conte’s fault as pep dave. He came out and admitted on paper that he was still in zone after briggsy had switched to man/man.

            Blown coverage. Let his man run right by extra him wide open. Doesn’t matter if pep blew the contain, conte should have at least been in cobb’s hip pocket… that said, even if he was, there’s no guarantee he could have kept up with cobb and prevented the TD anyway.

          • SC Dave

            True, especially the last part, which is a true statement about most safeties in the NFL I imagine.

          • MB30SD

            maybe, but there is more than a lot of tape showing how bad conte was last year when the pressure was on him and him alone to over perform without a dline’s help. He’s bad dave, sorry, but he’s just not good. He takes terrible angles and can’t tackle. We need a real NFL FS man. Someone that’s at least always in play for the big game plays when they come.

      • SC Dave

        They have been a long way from killing the QB on many plays since 1985, and they’ve done okay. While it’s just a site and a rating, notice the last column on this sheet, knowing that an “average” defense gets a 0.0.

        http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/chi/

        I suppose we must have had starting safeties 2010 through 2012.

        • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

          Dave, not many teams over that time period played better D than the Bears. The line was solid and had depth, Pep was dominant, the linebackers knew exactly what to do and the corners were really solid. The safeties benefited from Urlacher playing deep middle and because we stopped the run pretty well.
          I’ll amend my statement to say that one of the main ways to get by with average safeties is for the rest of your D playing balls to the fucking wall.

          • SC Dave

            Fair enough

    • gpldan from Eastern Front

      I think Phil could exact a steeper premium for falling back 5 spots, like a 2nd rounder.

      • Big Mike

        That would be nice. We did fleece Miami out of Brandon Marshall.

      • NewBearInTown

        Look again. Its a third rounder to trade back a few spots and then a fourth plus a seventh to move back a few more. So we end up with three extra picks and Kyle Fuller. That would be a great first day.

        • Cormonster

          NBIT, did you see Doc’s post about playing some chess on the phone? Any interest?

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

          It’s up to the Bears what we get for dropping back, surely?

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      So they have us taking two CBs when we have two PBers already at CB and are in dire need of a safety or two ? SMH.

  • Sactowns#1

    Did anyone else read this? http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/27170320-606/the-sitdown-phil-emery.html
    Its kind of an odd and rambling piece.. was this the result of a sit down interview or did Phil actually pen this?

    • Emery had a gun pointed at him? How many GMs can say that!?

      • CanadaBear

        Not only pointed at him but the guy pulled the trigger. YIKES!

        • Sactowns#1

          And thats why working a door for $10 an hour is never a good idea.

  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

    on another note, has anyone heard from AL???

    • MB30SD

      he was posting quite profusely (for him) last week, why?

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        didn’t see him pop up for some reason and wanted to make sure he didn’t go the way of The Ghost of Halas.

        • Shady

          +1 for a retro blog reference.

        • CanadaBear

          Pretty sure Al and I are close in age. I think I may have a year or two on him. I’ll be 62 (and retiring) in a couple of months. Pretty sure Ghost was much older.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            congrats Canada!

          • SC Dave

            I would agree. I think Ghost watched Luckman and McAfee play. Like my dad. 🙂

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            R.I.P. Ghost ?

    • Sactowns#1

      Better question.. where’s Fres?

      • MB30SD

        Jail

        • SC Dave

          Really?

          • MB30SD

            no, we used to mess with him about it though and I thought that was a funny response. Maybe that was just me though.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

          Mwah! Fres, you banged up again boy?

    • tobijohn

      MBHAP is still around, just too busy for us the last several months. But he vows to return with a vengeance…

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Hell no to Anthony Barr, him and others like him are in the draft every year. Pass!

  • CanadaBear

    Here’s a nice human interest story about Kyle Long.

    http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/10886636/kyle-long-chicago-bears-supports-boy-bullied-school

    Kyle is becoming my favorite Bear. Peanut will be my fave until he no longer plays for the Beloved. After that it’s a toss up between BMarsh and Kyle.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    http://thesidelineview.com/columns/draft/advanced-trends-nfl-draft-2004-present

    Check this out and go down to the outside linebacker section. Look at the 4-3 OLB trends and see who the only 2 LB’s in last years draft were who met all the criteria. Think Phil knows what he’s doing, especially now that he’s free of Lovie, Tice and Marinelli.

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      Interesting piece sir.

      • Shady

        What’s with the doll avitar? Is that a life sized doll like those WWF ones I grew up with, or is that a 6 inch voodoo doll?

        • Shady

          “What’s going on Dear?”

          “Nothing Sweetie, just getting teabagged by the Hulk.”

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

          It’s all about the girth, Shady ….. girth.

          (looks down at girth and contemplates tweeting Kyle Long)

        • Look down at my “mini-play”. It’s a one-act.

      • haha nice avi.

    • MB30SD

      see that’s the thing. Everything he does since lovie’s crew got shitcanned is scientific… and has been basically spot on. Long, Mills even, those two… they may not have blown it up last year, but they were picked for need and were the best available options at the time of our slot.

      I am ALL in for that strategy, even if they don’t ultimately end up panning out. Lovie’s strategy was obviously the, ‘I like that guy.’ strategy.

      • Big Mike

        We will definitely have more evidence after this year that his shit picks were from the old coaching staff. Both from the picks we make, and the one Lovie makes in TB. SHOUKD be pretty bear conclusive

    • gpldan flying Yak-9

      This gets to the heart of Emery wanting true athletes.

  • MB30SD

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts

    4 ‘expert’ mocks. They all think it will be between the 2 safeties and donald. I’m good with that. I’d also be ok with gilbert/fuller/dennard in 1 and buchannon in 2 if the three big ones are gone already… and a DT in 3 as well as williams from the wire.

    • Shady

      I’m going to need you to prepare yourself for the unexpected. Remember, if you need to calm yourself down, clasp your hands together and breathe in through your nose and out your mouth.

      • MB30SD

        I need you to get online toni… oh wait, it’s cinco de mayo. I’ll be outs and abouts.

        I’ll be fine, it’s all in fun anyway. In the end, I don’t even get to see many games causea the kids. So, it’s all good.

        • Shady

          Probably best that you don’t watch the Bears, too rough on the ole ticker. Although, there will be plenty of prime time opportunities for you to watch live.

          • MB30SD

            I will watch all monday night, thurs night, and I’m planning on one game at soldier.

        • Big Mike

          Got to teach’em to love the Bears. Lucky for you Bears have 6 prime times I think

    • gpldan flying Yak-9

      What’s with all these mocks having the Pack pick this guy?

      http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/austin-seferian-jenkins?id=2543683

      I thought after Ebron, there was no more 1st round TE talent left.

      • MB30SD

        I don’t know, but good. have at it gb. Calvin pryor will welcome him to our rivalry by taking him out of the game (and himself sadly)

        • Big Mike

          Nooooo. He can’t be a one hit wonder

      • Seferian has some character issues, and after Hernandez, any TE with character issues scares every GM.

        I highly doubt the Pack draft even Ebron. They’re trying to re-tool their D. They keep losing to the 9ers because their D is soft and slow. I see them trying to cure that.

  • MB30SD

    I actually really liked the suntimes mock. I’d swap out a CB in the 3rd (as you know), but if it ended exactly the way they had it, I’d take an extra crestor pill that night and party it up. I’d be more than happy with that line up.

  • I’m no pro scout, I only play one on tv, but when I see QB footage, and I see a College QB get happy feet when the pocket’s crashing, I take him off my board.

    When a con reads “rattles under pressure” or “doesn’t take the big hit to make the throw”, that to me is the worst possible critique on a QB. IMO, you can’t teach that. One might argue that the entire job of an NFL QB is to take the big hit, and not only make the throw, but make it accurately. The defensive beasts in the NFL are going to be faster, bigger and meaner, so if a QB gets rattled by the rush in college, well, in the NFL, dude’s going to be Gabbert 2.0. It also makes the o-guys lose respect for their “leader”.

    Arm, frame, progressions, mechanics…none of those matter if the QB is a wuss.

    • MB30SD

      QBs by nature are wusses. Just saying.

      So who are we talking about this year?

      • Like I said, Yeaaahhh Boyd. He hung in there, took the hit, and threw it on point. So for a later round prospect, I can build on that (not to mention he is elusive).

        Bridgewater and Manziel actually hang tough in the pocket, but their frames…

        • Shady

          So you think Emery was blowing smoke with those comments about developmental QBs? Should we really expect him to take a flyer on Boyd?

          • Absolutely. He’s playing chess. He’s throwing smoke for the later rounds, 4rth and beyond.

            I believed him the first time when he said if he had it his way, he’d draft a QB every round.

            I’m pretty sure some other teams drafted some QBs ahead of the Bears that Emery had his eye on, and now he suddenly has the opposite stance?

            Everyone keeps making the argument that a backup vet would make a better QB. I don’t disagree. THIS YEAR. But with a year under Trest, Boyd (or whomever they want) can really develop for next year and beyond.

            If Cutler goes down, throw in Palmer, no doubt. Maybe even next year too, depending on how much Boyd, etc progresses.

            But in 3 years from now (when Cutler’s 3rd year cut off is), we can find out if we can win with said developmental QB, or roll with Cutler and his $100M contract.

            If anything, maybe Boyd can flash and we can cash him in for a draft pick.

            But that’s just my thinking. I have no clue what Emery/Trest are brewing up.

          • Shady

            I certainly wouldn’t be shocked if Emery drafted a QB, but you can’t deny the logic in his statistics. After drafting Boyd, how could Emery come out to the podium and take back what he said about the myth of developing late round QBs?

            From his quote above, it sounds like IF he were to draft a QB it would be in the early rounds and not the mid to late rounds.

          • Emery knows you know that he knows that you know.

          • Shady
  • The biggest early seismic event wouldn’t be Manziel to the Texans, it would be Manziel (or another QB) to the Rams at #2, cuz if that’s the case, that means some other team most likely traded for Bradford.

    That also effectively means that the Rams passed on RG3 for Manziel.

    I’m pretty sure the Rams can get at least a 1st for Bradford, so they can still stock pile draft picks. That would also fuck up every mock draft for the last 6 months 40 mins into the draft.

    • Shady

      There’s no way Bradford is worth a 1. The Rams aren’t quite done with him yet either. They need to find a better way of protecting the QB and surronding him with more weapons before giving up on that 50 mil guarenteed.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      Why do teams feel pressured to start the QB they draft? If I drafted Manziel I’d want him on the bench learning the game until he was ready to go in and not totally shit the bed.

      Would you sincerely give up a first for Bradford?

      • IF I were the Vikings and it was between Bradford, or Bortles, hell yes.

        They can even give next year’s 1st, if they want.

        Bradford may or may not be made of glass, but he’s still better than most of this QB class.

        Bradford on the Browns. They got a line, and weapons and a good D. That could work too.

        • Big Mike

          Not two number ones. I would give up my first rd for Bradford if I was MN

      • Big Mike

        No.

    • Big Mike

      What about the whole grooming a QB for the future slant? Maybe they think one if these QBs is the real deal. That could also be the angle. But you are right that would be seismic

  • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000346608/article/wes-welker-gifts-100-bills-after-kentucky-derby-win

    Brady’s hair – here comes the Hasselbeck bullet head.

    Note – Manziel will look like Matt Hasselback within 12 months.

  • Cormonster

    MB, any thoughts on this video about South Africa?

  • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

    http://www.fieldgulls.com/nfl-draft/2014/5/2/5675916/seahawks-draft-2014-top-100-board-doug-kyed-rankings

    Gilbert/Dennard/Fuller …. Bucannon …. Sutton/Ellis….. BOOM!

    Pryor …. Bucannon ….. Sutton / Ellis….. BOOM!

    Donald …. Bucannon …. and a CB that Phil drafts and converts to S because there aren’t any good safeties left.

    Don’t shoot me MB, it’s what Phil said … and it’s the only way it could make sense(in his head). Why would anyone attempt the CB-S conversion ? Because there aren’t any safeties left in the third. Not my thinking, but possibly Emery’s.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      I suppose another reason you turn a CB into a safety is so that you can pay them less. Maybe Emery has a boner for a DT in the first, and he hasn’t got those free safeties there for him in the second … he’s looking at all these tackling CB freaks in the draft that look like safeties anyway and thinks “Aha!”.

      He’ll draft Donald if he’s there …. Pryor if he’s not. I don’t think he’d go with Hageman. He knows h can get a decent corner somewhere other than the first, but Dennard or Gilbert will be hard for him to pass up.

      Needs. Emery knows he doesn’t NEED a corner. He needs a safety or two plus a 3T.

      Donald/Pryor in that order … and still draft Tuitt if he’s there at 51. We won’t need a secondary at that point. If we want that FS though, it’s got to be the first round, leaving us with maybe
      1. Pryor 2. Tuitt. 3. Some corner 4. Not a QB

      We’re looking pretty good no matter what happens…. IF the first three picks are on defense.

      • Big Mike

        Here’s my new theory on the Bears and DBs. They are comfortable with Mundy and the guy from GB to start the year. They project a number of corners that will make good Free Safeties with time. They like the idea of adding versatility and depth.

        Not saying I like it. But if the draft breaks that way it is not an oversight or an accident. There must be confidence that the competition on the island of misfit Safeties, the revamped front 7 and the addition of hybrid CB/Safeties in the draft is a strong play.

        • MB30SD

          Supposedly the guy from gb is dogshit and Strictly camp fodder

          • Big Mike

            That’s what I’ve heard. Worse than Conte?

  • Shady

    So I’ve been researching and I think I’ve got the Emery 6 figured out:

    1. Clowney / Mack

    2. Donald

    3. Barr / Gilbert

    4. Pryor

    5. Hageman

    6. Clinton-Dix

  • Artoo

    Hey MB, I might be in San Diego on the 10th and 11th. Free?

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