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Dismal Sunday Display Presents Opportunity for Santa Clara Salvation

| September 9th, 2014

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If the Bears had a rinky dink opponent on the schedule for Sunday (though I’m not sure those exist in the NFL any longer) there would be little they could do in Week Two to erase the disappointment of Week One. But they don’t. Instead they are traveling to Santa Clara, where they haven’t beaten the 49ers since the invention of the forward pass. They are opening a new stadium, in prime time, in front of one of the league’s rowdiest fan bases. They are playing the most difficult game, at least contextually speaking, on their schedule.

And if they win, week one is forgotten. If they win, the season is reborn. Hell, even if they play a terrific game and lose the conversation changes from the End is Nigh refrain currently singly somewhat proudly from the pages of the Chicago dailies to Bring on the Jets and the 2014 campaign!

The opportunity is there, Sunday night in northern California, whether most want to acknowledge that fact or not. There is no amount of film study to make week one’s fumbles, wrong routes, drops and indefensible interceptions dissolve in water like a packet of  morning after twenty-one pints Emergen-C. There is no amount of effort exerted on the practice field to suddenly make the defensive starting lineup believe they are capable of shutting down Frank Costanza, let alone Frank Gore. Only a big time performance in the big time national spotlight can cure what ails these Chicago Bears. They need to play it off.

One game does not define a season and many of the league’s recent champions had a game, if not a collection of games, sending their fan bases into a relative panic. The 2012 Baltimore Ravens lost by 30 points in Houston in Week 7 and dropped 4 of their final 5 games of the regular season. The 2011 New York Giants were dismantled by a crappy Redskins team on opening Sunday. Both teams won the last game played in the NFL those years. (There was no Super Bowl awarded for the 2010 season. I reached out to the league for a reason why and have not yet heard back.)

Sunday Night Football will tell us a great deal about this group of Chicago Bears, coaches included. An inspired effort in a hostile environment will summon the optimistic enthusiasm of their desperate and hungry fans. A flat effort in the face of a superior opponent will have fans awkwardly tip-toeing up the movie theater aisle to hit the bar before the credits.

Which effort will the Bears deliver?

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  • SC Dave

    Hug that dream, Jefe, especially how overmatched we looked againt Seattle..

    But what the hell, let’s just win the friggin game.

  • BearFanInDE

    Ohh my Jeff! If only….

  • johnnywad

    Eli Manning is elite.

    • For your consideration….

      elite at looking like a whiny pussy.

  • For your consideration….

    Lions officially have no starting safeties. They also have a backup at nickel. Pyrrhic victory?

    • Giants suck. I don’t know how Eli has regressed so much, but if he didn’t have two SB rings, he would be benched.
      The Gmen should start another QB during the regular season, then come playoffs, insert Eli.

  • bearsfantillend
    • BerwynBomber

      Interesting but hard to tear him a new one if it is two nights before, although it is definitely not smart. Btw, isn’t Briggs the one who crashed his sport car some years back in the wee hours and then left the scene of the accident? Dude sounds like he enjoys getting blasted.

      • bearsfantillend

        my bad i misread the days. you are correct.

    • For your consideration….

      Lol, it’s not true, Spiegel was punk’d by a guy quoting an article of SportsMockery. Look it up

  • SC Dave

    Oh god… Berman? !?

  • SC Dave

    And that first note of the anthem… ugh

  • For your consideration….

    Chris Berman and Trent fucking Dilfer discussing a call being challenged is like listening to two drunk 8yr olds discussing string theory.

  • BerwynBomber

    Outside of the Iggles, the NFC East looks atrocious.

  • We’re going to get utterly annihilated in prime-time.
    I’ve never said that before on this blog, but this defense is soul-less.

    • BerwynBomber

      What is additionally scary is if Tillman and Jennings slide in a major way. Not saying it will happen but it could. Then we would have three D units in trouble and one (D-Line) in the TBD category. Still, I’m remaining optimistic. I’m not convinced our division is all that — competitive but kinda average — and the O should carry us at times even if they didn’t yesterday.

      • Ppl forget that Kap destroyed us through the air last time. We made him look like Steve Young, and now he’s much more experienced and has better weapons. The read-option will open it up huge passing lanes for him to zip it by our LBs head as they flail about aimlessly.

        This is gonna get ugly.

        • BerwynBomber

          It could. Wouldn’t argue that but big picture I don’t think anyone from our division will run away and hide. 9-7 could win it. Hell, even 8-8.

          • Yeah, suddenly our division isn’t as tough as it used to be. The Vikes might have the best D and Specials. They just needed a Orton-ish type QB with AP and Patterson, and now they might have one.
            I still believe the Kitties will self-destruct, and the Pack and Bears will always compete now matter what.

          • Trac

            What!!! You’re joking right? This is cray cray talk.

        • johnnywad

          Then why did they only beat the Cowboys, a horrible team that committed four turnovers, by eleven? Two years ago they would have won that game by 35.

    • Shady
    • Trac

      I sat next to a San Fran fan on my flight to Sacramento after he’d gone to Dallas to watch the cowgirls 9ers game. Thinks the score will be 28-10. No respect.

      • Yeah, I have a huge 9er fan friend. I may just ignore him for a week or two.
        Only reason he even became a 9er fan was just to piss off all the Raider fans in L.A. He’s a perpetual line-stepper.

      • Big Mike

        That’s generous. How did we hold them to 28?

  • AlbertInTucson

    Prepare to feel old: Kevin “Butthead’ Butler’s kid is punting for the Cardinals.

    Already got one slapped back in his face.

    • haha I saw that! If I would have known that, I probably would have added him on my FF team!

      • AlbertInTucson

        I believe they only signed him as late as today because their regular punter, Zastodil, came up lame.

  • Damn. Is there a Football league in Istanbul?

    “Former Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice will not be able to move north of the border to play in Canada while suspended from the National Football League.According to the Canadian Press, Canadian Football League commissioner Mark Cohon released a statement Monday saying they would
    honor the suspension of Rice handed down by the NFL”- PFT

    • AlbertInTucson

      If Turkey had pro sports franchise, would they be known as the Istan-Bulls?

      • Cormonster

        Nice one Al!

  • For your consideration….

    Brutal defensive holding call on a great play by AZ cornerback. Nice job NFL, way to piss on the game.

    • For your consideration….

      Yup, took the game right away from the cardinals

      • AlbertInTucson

        But the Chargers gave it right back.

        • For your consideration….

          indeed, but at least it was one of the teams affecting the result and not the refs.

  • BerwynBomber

    Horrendous clock mgmt. by the Bolts. Why in such a rush down a point with two minutes to go on your own forty? Second and two they could have called one or two runs and still had time to move down into FG range. Rivers and company panicked.

  • CanadaBear

    Gotta agree with Butch. This Sunday night is gonna be bad. Our D showed all the intensity of a pillow fight. SF will really make us pay for that. The last time out there I turned the TV off before the 2nd quarter. I had never done that in my life (usually middle of the 3rd qtr at the earliest). I had seen the movie before and didn’t like the ending. Really hope I’m wrong.

    • Big Mike

      Like the Eagles game last year, is what I’m prepared for.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Sorry, but I just don’t get all the righteous indignation now that the video of Rice throwing the haymaker.

    C’mon, folks, how do you thing she got knocked cold in the first place?

    The admitted abuse is WORSE now just because you saw it?

    Also, spare me all the “How could the NFL not have seen it but TMZ got it.” accusations.

    TMZ wasn’t SUPPOSED to see it / have iteither but, like the true 21st century pillars of journalism that they are, they likely slipped somebody some cash to get it.

    Best comment I saw this evening on the issue: Ravens defensive lineman Chris Canty basically saying that any media outlet that showed the video was guilty of subjecting the victim, who everyone is supposed to be SO concerned about, to another form of abuse by airing the video.

    I think he made a very cogent point.

    • Cormonster

      I seen everything I needed to know about Ray and the incident from the first video when he nonchalantly pulled her out of the elevator.

      Now it’s a sensationalist story that demands more action because people got to see the punch. Every local news station in the country now has a lead story if they want it, with the requisite interview with a therapist or head of a battered women’s shelter.

      Of course none of these stories will have anything to do with showing the titillating violence and hopefully higher ratings, but raising awareness about violence against women.

    • Doc Hamstring

      I think the outrage isn’t because no one knew the results, but because Rice claimed that his fiancee came at him, and so he knocked her out in self-defense. The NFL and the Ravens stood behind this explanation, and both entities hinted (or outright said, through reporters) that they had seen the elevator video. Thus, the 2 game suspension was for the punch-as-retaliation.

      The elevator video clearly shows him punching her, THEN her slapping him in response, THEN him knocking her out. There is no “self-defense,” and the NFL (and the Ravens) are pretending they never saw the video. The video that clearly blows Rice’s explanation–that warranted a 2-game suspension–out of the water.

      TMZ are not white knights. Media outlets running the video don’t give a shit about Rice’s wife. They want to feed the outrage machine for ratings.

    • johnnywad

      I can tell you that I hadn’t seen any of it and generally didn’t pay much attention. Often these claims are baseless, like the one Brandon Marshall was charged with about the time he arrived in Chicago. Since it occurred in an elevator, a great place to hide, I was even more skeptical.

      Well, now I’ve seen it. And yes, I’m pissed. I’m glad he’s been released and banned. I hope he goes to prison and never plays another down in the NFL.

  • AlbertInTucson

    AND…it’s OFFICIAL!

    USC head Coach, Steve Sarkisian is a Weenie!

    He admits that HE sent the text to his A.D., Pat “I don’t know WHO texted me” Haden to come down to the sideline and speak to the officiating crew.

    What’s wrong, Steve? Mommy or Daddy weren’t available?

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    They’ll be stomped. Even considering a balanced game sounds like fantasy.
    This has nothing to do with the Bills game. This was clear from when the schedule was released.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Fuck me, man !!! The Bears D can’t stop one of the 49ers strengths on offense. They can’t stop the run (few teams in the NFL can), can’t stop Boldin in the slot, can’t stop Davis down the seam, can’t stop Kaepernick scramble, run, roll out. The ST can’t be won and the O, well, nobody knows it all depends on Cutler… his track record isn’t favorable in this kind of situations.
    I’d rest the injured players. Don’t risk them for the long haul. Play the season in week 3 and 4. A 2-2 record should bring things at square 1.

    • bearsfantillend

      well… if it is that hopeless, they might as well save the money on fuel and not even make the trip. since we are so clearly outmatched in every aspect of the game. Damn MAN, is Eastern Europe so depressing that you have no hope. Any given Sunday! Even crappy teams get wins when they are out matched. I don’t see the Bears as a crappy team, they are average.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Eastern Europe is depressing by default, but that has nothing to do with it.

  • johnnywad

    I can’t believe this place. You guys are ridiculous. It was one game in which the Bears played badly and still played into overtime. That doesn’t often happen in the NFL. Untimely mistakes on both sides of the ball cost them the game, not a lack of talent. I need a break from you miserable bastards. Its week 2. Jesus.

    • Big Mike

      Here’s my thoughts on the reaction.
      1 – Week 1 over reaction is based on an entire off season of projecting what happens on paper to what will happen on the field. When expectations (which are almost always too high) are not met, huge disillusion sets in.
      2 – The Bears usually win their home opener. I don’t have the stat, but it’s like 7 of 8.
      3 – The offense, which everyone “knows” will be spectacular only put up 20 on a defense that was supposed to be “meh”.
      4 – The quarterback who is supposed to be improved, had a brain fart of the variety that has kept in from being considered a top 10 QB.
      5 – Getting to 10 wins and the post season is going to be tougher when you lose the easiest game on your schedule.

      Buffalo did not beat the Bears, the Bears beat the Bears.

      Good thing a game gets played every week. 4-4 after 8 games would have the Bears set up to compete for a playoff spot.

      • johnnywad

        I also believe the Bills are better than they were last year. That was not the Cowboys or the Giants. Not world beaters, but not bottom feeders.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          This is the Bears away schedule before Week 10: 49ers, jets, panthers, falcons patriots, packers.
          So the Bears now have to win their 2 home games (packers, miami) plus another 3 on the road with the win at the packers a must.

          So I get the ‘it’s week 1 calm down’ and ‘the bills are a force in the AFC’ theme, but it doesn’t look very good. It’s rather depressing and very similar to past years.

          • johnnywad

            Jets beat the Raiders by 5. Panthers beat the Bucs by 6 with McCown doing his best Caleb Hanie. Packers got smoked by the Hawks, albeit it was the Hawks, they didn’t look overly impressive. Patriots lost by two touchdowns to the Dolphins. And somehow, the Bears are going to be 0-6. I didn’t say the Bills are a force. I said they’re better than they were last year. I said they were better than 6-10. I said they were better than the Giants or Cowboys. I never said they were a force. I didn’t even say they were good. I just said they’re not awful. There’s a difference. And yes, its week 1. So calm down.

          • MB30SD

            Hell I like you… you can come over and fuck my sister

          • johnnywad

            I love her……

          • MB30SD

            then propose you slut!

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Yeah… the panthers beat tampa away with the back up QB. Packers are beating the shit out of the Bears for 2 decades now and don’t even mention the Patriots…. they lose 1 game at home every 3 seasons. They smoked the Bears by about 50 points in ‘Bear weather’ last time around.

          • johnnywad

            The Patriots won by 29. Nobody named Brandon Marshall, Alshon Jeffrey, Martellus Bennett, Jermon Bushrod, Matt Slauson, Kyle Long, or Jordan Mills played that day. Mike Martz was your OC and felt that Brandon Manumaleuna was a better option at TE than Greg Olsen. Devin Aromashidu, Devin Hester, Earl Bennett, and Johnny Knox were your receivers. You can think of it however you like. This year’s game is not a rematch. They are two totally different teams. The game from four years ago means absolutely nothing.

      • Trac

        Good teams don’t lose games they’re supposed to win. Either the Bears wake their asses up and snap out of it or they get their asses handed to em on a platter when they play San Fran.

        Which will it be Chicago?

        Oh and that slob ass Frisco fan I sat next to on the plane ? I told him the score will be 38-10……………..Bears!

        You should have seen the look on his face, it was priceless.

        • Big Mike

          “Excuse me flight attendant, I’d like my seat moved, the man next to me is insane”

          • Trac

            Hahaha. I couldn’t help it Mike. I had to put up with his smelly hungover ass for 4 hours. Lol.

    • For your consideration….

      agreed Johnny, this is getting crazy.

    • MB30SD

      Aaaaand, This

  • Big Mike

    Did Detroit quietly go about getting a whole lot better, or do the Giant’s just suck? They did what I thought the Bears would to Buffalo.

    • Scharfinator

      Eli is horrible. The Giants D kept them in that game a lot longer than they deserved.

  • BearFanInDE

    http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/29768582-606/jay-cutler-isnt-about-to-become-a-great-quarterback.html#.VA6ChlYjzwI

    Jay Cutler isn’t about to become a great quarterback

    BY RICK MORRISSEY Sports Columnist September 8, 2014 9:22PM

    Do you think Cutler can still become a great QB?
    The Bears have always treated Jay Cutler as something more than he is.

    From his first training camp in 2009, when team officials referred to him as “No. 6’’ in reverent tones, to the ton of guaranteed money the Bears gave him in January, you’d think he was No. 12 — Tom Brady.

    The franchise has told us over and over again that Cutler possesses special skills that allow him to do things most other quarterbacks can’t do, things, they say, Brett Favre used to do. The next person who compares Cutler to Favre needs his head introduced to a wasp nest. It’s an insult to Favre, who actually won a Super Bowl and is headed to the Hall of Fame.

    Perhaps Cutler does have special skills, but they’re in the hands of someone who doesn’t use them properly. The body does what the brain tells it to do, and Cutler’s brain keeps saying, “Nobody challenges Jay Cutler’s arm!’’ instead of, “You know what? I should probably throw the ball away so my team can live for another play.’’

    He is not special, and it’s time the Bears stopped treating him as if he were. At this stage of his career, he shouldn’t be making the mistake he made in the Bears’ brutal loss to the Bills in the season opener Sunday. Rolling right and trying to throw a pass across your body into the middle of the field is suicide. Problem is, the suicide killed his team, with a 303-pound defensive tackle picking off Cutler’s silly pass. It’s very possible Kyle Williams didn’t even know what a football felt like until the pass came his way.

    • Big Mike

      Unfortunately, I am getting closer to the same conclusion.

      • For your consideration….

        you should have seen Morrissey’s articles and interviews this offseason. For a man to do a 180 so quickly in his professional opinion is disgraceful. I have no respect for someone like Morrissey.

        • BillW

          I think Morrissey and Haugh and probably others actually wrote articles praising Cutler so they could justify their criticisms later on. Very low.

          • For your consideration….

            I am searching the Indy press and blogs trying to see if they crucify and string up Andrew Luck in the same way and they don’t. Identical stat line except he had 2 INT’s AND a botched idiotic 4th and goal qb keeper that lost the game not to mention 3 other passes that should have been picked off. Nothing.

            Their press has a modicum of respect for what the game entails.

          • CanadaBear

            Come on Johnny you know this is BS. You’re comparing the press in Chicago to the press in Indy? The Chicago press would have roasted Luck for that performance if he was the Bears QB. The Indy press doesn’t do roasting unless it’s a pedophile or some such person. Newspapers are barely hanging on and all the Chicago reporters/columnists are scrambling to stay employed. They will write anything. The pressure in the Indy press corps is probably a little less!

  • Big Mike

    I don’t think the Bears have a chance in this game. The only thing that gives the Bears a chance is if I bet on them. Seriously, this could be an ass whooping. Cutler might have one of those 5 pick games, the defense might give up 300 yards rushing and over 500 total. Or not. Who knows. I’m still hopeful. I’m wouldn’t write off the season if the Bears started out 0-2. The only thing that makes me rage, is losing the Packers.

    • Bender McLugh

      or losing to the Lions

      • Big Mike

        Doesn’t bother me as much. If losing to the Packers is a 10, losing to the Lions is a 7 on the road and an 8 at home. With a loss like the ones to the Bills a 5. Losing to the Bills, if it weren’t the home opener would normally be a 3. A 1 or 2 are reserved for losses when the Bears are either out of it (1) or (2) have their playoff seeding locked up.

  • Shady

    Bears lineman Matt Slauson and Roberto Garza both suffered high ankle sprains and both expected to miss at least a month.

    … Enter de La and Olga.

    • Big Mike

      Damn, that’s how it rolls in the NFL. Two injuries to the same unit. I’m actually optimistic about de La Puente. I think he might even be an upgrade physically. Pretty sure losing Slauson is a bigger deal. Bears were fine if only one went down. This could be trouble.

      • The good thing is, DLP and Olga are prob used to each other since they were both back ups.
        Also, although Slauson is great in pass protection, I don’t think he can move the pile on run (though someone would have to double check that for me).
        So, theoretically, we might be able to actually run inside now (if it wasn’t the 9ers). These injuries could be a blessing in disguise.

        • Big Mike

          Their familiarity with each other is a bonus. Olga is an unknown. DLP is a guy I’ve liked over Garza since they got him.

    • De La Olga…a hipster restaraurstarnt that is a fusion of Mexican-Eastern Block cuisine.

      Evan gives it 4 pointy staches out of 5.

  • BillW

    I can’t help myself.

    I read the opinions on this board – including those in past threads by MB30 – and they sound remarkably the same as mine.

    The big difference is that I’ve connected the dots and came to the conclusion this regime will fail. I don’t come by that conclusion lightly, or happily by any means. And I acknowledge I could be wrong – it’s just an opinion. But one based on decades of being a very loyal and very true Bears fan.

    And I’m told I don’t add value and I should go pound sand.

    • For your consideration….

      i think the source of MB’s ire towards you is that you NEVER show up but when you do you whine and bitch. It’s annoying because it’s the beginning of the season, you were absent all offseason and then come in like an annoying mother in law saying I told you that man would never amount to anything, blah, blah, blah……

      • MB30SD

        This

      • BillW

        “Never” is a dangerous word to use. “Lately” is perhaps more accurate. I left during the offseason because I got tired of the insults and since it was the offseason there wasn’t much to add. The die was cast when they kept Tucker and JoeD and McClellin. That’s when I gave up.

        All offseason we heard how Cutler has changed and the D was being fixed and they were a playoff contender and maybe even a SB contender.

        All that was exposed in one game as being wishful thinking. Special teams are so bad that their best move is down the kickoff in the endzone. The defense can’t stop the run. Cutler for all his expereince still makes defiantly bad decisions. Trestman does a great job explaining losses – I’d rather hear him explaining wins.

        I’ve posted MANY positives in my time on this board dating back to the season of Lovie’s SB.

        And whine and bitch is – with respect – a very lazy way of describing my posts. They are observations with thought behind them. Whining and bitching to me would be “The Bears really suck” and “Cutler sucks” and “Trestman and Emery need to go” WITHOUT backing that up with some pertinent observations.

        And I believe my observations are pertinent and I do back up my opinions with my thinking – which as I constantly admit doesn’t make me right.

        My impression of most – not all – of you on this board is a bunch of well meaning Bear fans that just haven’t seen enough football to know contenders from pretenders – and the symptoms that make the difference.

        You basically want this team to be a true contender and get annoyed when certain realities are brought up. And take it out on the guy bringing up those realities. Sorry – I’ve played the game that way when I was in my teens and twenties (living through failed coach after failed coach in the 60s and 70s) – believing each time it was going to happen.

        Then I finally saw it work with Finks, Vanisi and Ditka. Then I saw it work with Ron Wolf and Holgrem. And others. And saw it fail with Minnesota and Detroit and yes, the Bears again and again.

        I’m sorry if my opinions spoil the party – and believe it or not I do understand. What I think you are missing is that my opinions come from being a real fan (I refuse to debate my “credentials” on that). It’s not based on my WANTING to be right or critical.

        I’m old(er) but not too old to learn new things. If it turns out that Emery and Trestman do better than Lovie (who many people wanted out despite his overall record) I will HAPPILY assess where I was wrong.

        But I do get it – you don’t want to hear someone telling you that your hopes and dreams are bound for disappointment – even though I explain WHY I feel that way.

        For what it is worth , I hope I’m wrong. Of course I do – I’m over 60 years old. I’d love to see one more SB in my lifetime and see my boys enjoy it.

        • bearsfantillend

          in the last 2 days you have insinuated several occasions that many of us are idiots and don’t fully understand the game. The i’ve been a fan for 50 years so i know everything bullshit gets old. You come off as a cynical old man that keeps saying back in my day i’ve seen shit man, lots of shit man, so i know what gonna happen and nothing is surprising. Quite frankly it’s off putting, and I really understand why many of us would insult you. It’s not what you are saying, its how you are saying it. Its the backhanded insults like “bunch of well meaning Bear fans that just haven’t seen enough football to know contenders from pretenders”.that are the problem.

    • GPLDAN

      I’m here all the fucking time with funny Meme’s and slogans and I think Emery is a putz, Trestman stayed in Canada for a reason, and this regime will fail.

      So there ya’ go – your motion is seconded.

      • You’re just grumpy cuz you won the week 1 “Sacko Award”.
        For those not in our FF League, here is the description of said award:

        You scored less than a computer engineer on prom night. You were so
        inept that you would even make Congress look like a shining bastion of
        creativity and efficiency. I had to double-check to actually make
        certain you set up your line-up, and sure enough, you did.

        Congrats! YOU SUCK.

        http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/trophylist?leagueId=1177278&seasonId=2014

        • GPLDAN

          But i win the Neckbeard award. So, you know, I got that goin for me.

    • Viva

      So, will you be happy if they succeed, or will the teams success depress you because you were so blatantly wrong?

    • johnnywad

      Trestman took an offense that had been a laughing stock for a decade and turned it into the number 2 Scoring team in the league…….. In one off season. They have retooled the defensive line, and drafted a corner that looks to have all the tools to be very good. I think Sutton is going to pan out and be a tremendous boost to the D line by mid season. Trestman has coached one season and one game. For a year and a game, he’s been very successful. And you would like him gone? For whom? Name a guy that can put together that offense in one season. The defense will come. It may come together this year or it may take another. What are your expectations 17 games into his tenure?

      • BillW

        My projection 32 games into his tenure is about 16-16 with many question marks around the defense and STs and wondering why a QB so talented can still make mental errors.

        My expectation now is that he sees problems and acts decisivly. In my opinion he failed on that with McClellin and Tucker and JoeD. Doesn’t bode well.

        First 15 plays or so are scripted. I don’t get why a flea flicker (which Cutler wisely audibled out of the first time).

        I never said Cutler doesn’t make good decisions. He makes GREAT reads. Seriously. And then he throw all those good decisions away with one terrible one. That’s how football works. It’s a bitch but it’s true. (Just like all the wonderful things you do for your wife or girlfriend are worthless to her once you do one bad thing.)

        Trestman is an offensive genius – no doubt. Doesn’t translate necessarily to a great HC. Buddy Ryan was a defensive genius in his day. Bad HC.

      • CanadaBear

        You neglected to mention he took a pretty good D and turned it into a laughing stock. Same with ST’s. I’m hoping Trestman is the man to lead us to the promised land but until we get the D straightened out, he and Emery are no better than JA and Lovie. Don’t get me wrong JA should have been canned 5 years sooner than he was and it was definitely time to go for Lovie. I do have hope that Emery will have some draft magic and eventually Trestman gets the D right, but right now, neither of them are looking like sure things.

  • Viva

    The Bears Offense got at least one first down on every possession against the Bills. That is certainly something to build on.

    Trestman is now 0-3 against Gym Short coached/coordinated teams.

    • GPLDAN

      Jim Miller lit Cutler up on Mully’s show today. It’s rare to hear a former Bears QB light up a current QB. It’s kind of not done.

      But Miller crossed the line. He’s obviously disgusted with the loss.

      • For your consideration….

        Jim Miller acts like he didn’t play like Jim fucking Miller during his career.

        • For your consideration….
          • BillW

            Miller did the best he could and never claimed to be or acted like a top tier QB. Cutler acts and is paid like a top tier QB and still makes really dumb throws.

            Miller and other QBs past and present think “if I had his talent I’d take this team to a SB”.

          • For your consideration….

            Bill, watch one other game out of the bunch that just occurred and count the number of bad throws and bad decisions in every game. Every quarterback fucks up. Brady fucked up in his game, Flacco in his, Rivers last night, Manning almost pissed his game away, Luck gave the game to the Broncos, McCown was old McCown, etc.
            Anyone can sit up in a box and preach about what should have happened but look what fucking happened when they played the fucking game.

        • Viva

          That is fucking hilarious.

          • For your consideration….

            Only in Chicago can we fucking crucify the quarterback for having a 70% completion rate, 350yds, multiple 60+ yard drives all because he makes ONE mistake that results in a turnover, albeit a bad one, but that still required the Bills to drive 70 fucking yards in 4 minutes….which they proceeded to do to score a TD. Then Cutler led them all the way back down the field to score again….. Then they lost in overtime because Cutler didn’t lead them on an 80yd drive to score. That is what needed to happen with this D. If Cutler doesn’t lead them to score ON EVERY DRIVE it’s fucking over and that is why we are crucifying him?

            Peyton Manning continually helped give the Colts the ball back in the final 2 quarters only to have Andrew Luck do his fucking all to give it right fucking back.

          • For your consideration….

            that was a team loss.

          • Big Mike

            I’ve made my point. It’s not the one error, its the fact that it is the same error. Throwing a ball that should never, under any circumstances be thrown.

          • Trac

            Nobody is being crucified. People are just sick and tired of being lied to. If you tell your fan base that your QB is superhuman, you better run and hide when he and your organization can’t win a game against the JV.

          • BillW

            You really don’t understand the game of football do you? Seriously – you don’t get how teams win and lose. You and others say “look at all the good plays” as if retroactively they will award maybe half a win?

            a HORRIBLE defense gave up only 20 points (in regulation). A supposedly great offense scored only 20.

            If you don’t understand that Cutler’s INT was a major contributor (and VERY avoidable and inexcusable) then again you don’t understand.

            Why criticize MILLER for his opinion because he wasn’t great QB? What the HELL are your credentials?? Where do you get off implying your opinion makes more sense than his?

          • bearsfantillend

            layoff Waffle – he is a homer and has some optimism like many of us do.

            Nothing worse than a cynical old man with an internet connection.
            you damn kids get off my lawn!!! I swear kids these days are a bunch of idiots.

          • MB30SD

            this. face to fucking palm man.

          • BillW

            Hey – that was MY line in the last thread making fun of myself.

          • For your consideration….

            I don’t understand football? Read my posts about the aggregate plays resulting in the outcome. Cutler’s interception was one play among dozens of good and bad plays by both teams that had to happen as they did for the outcome to be what it was. That is the game of football Bill. One play doesn’t yield the result. That is why my fucking point is that we can’t sit here and say that the bad interception is the reason whey Cutler is trash, not a leader, that the bears Offense will suck, that the season is done, etc. The shit that everyone is spouting in the media and by the fans just doesn’t make sense. They had trouble finishing drives and there were multiple reasons for that. One of the drives ended in an interception to Kyle Williams. One.

          • BillW

            I didn’t say any of the things you’re implying I said. Never said Cutler is trash, not a leader, that the Bears offense will suck. I did imply the season is over and while that’s an opinion on shaky ground based on one game, the team is not talented enough yet to lose a winnable game without fearing that it will be the reason they miss the playoffs.

            One play doesn’t yield the result is of course very true. Or is it? Had he converted that first down I believe they would have won the game. Of course they were in position to win because of many other plays etc etc.

            But in critical moments when it’s time to close the deal, the rest is past and the one play has to be made.

            And that’s why we watch the game – why it’s the best game ever invented (except for the injuries that are the unfortunate part). It’s the combined effort of 11 guys on each side of the ball working together. A series of plays – part chess match and part brute strength. And in the end it’s the team that makes the key plays AND avoids the key mistakes that comes out on top MOST of the time.

        • Big Mike

          Jim Miller wasn’t anywhere near the athlete Cutler is. But he wouldn’t have thrown that second pick. (maybe because he would have already been sacked, but his QB brain would not have let him throw that ball.

          • For your consideration….

            fuck yes he would have Mike. Look at how he performed in his career. Hindsight is 20/20. Jim Miller played on the 2001 Bears Mike. Do you remember that fucking Defense? If the 2001 Bears defense played on Sunday the Bills would not have scored and there would have been at least 3 INT’s.
            FUCKING PERSPECTIVE. Jim Miller was a placeholder on a runaway Defensive Train.

          • For your consideration….

            2001, “the year when a cat could have played quarterback”
            2 fucking overtime game winning pick sixes
            THE TOP RATED D in the league
            Urlacher, Holdman, Colvin LB
            Washington, Traylor, Robinson, Daniels on the line
            Brown, Harris, Parrish, McQuarters at DB

          • For your consideration….

            In those games the bears had scored a TD or maybe 2 and needed miraculous comebacks and insane amounts of D help.

          • SC Dave

            I have no idea what your point is here. No one has been talking about Miller outperforming Cutler. Just about not making bonehead throws.
            On the other hand, I cannot say whether or not Miller made bonehead throws. My memory ain’t that good.

          • For your consideration….

            I was speaking directly to Mike’s point with this post. I just found it hilarious that we will accept 20pts against a Bills team that may get shut out this year or score in the single digits more than once. I find it hilarious that we look at a single play and then try to use that play to paint a picture of destruction and misery.

          • BillW

            And even if all that is true – and it may be – doesn’t mean he doesn’t understand the game. Just didn’t have the talent to do what he needs to do.

            How many coaches were superstar athletes? Very few. Many great coaches (like Lombardi, Shula) understood the game even if they themselves couldn’t play at that level.

            It is completely irrelevant how good or bad a QB Miller was. If that was the criteria for a valid opinion, Jeff would have to shut this board down. None of us have anywhere near the experience that goes into the assessments someone like Miller makes.

            Does’n’t make him right obviously. But being a bad QB doesn’t make him wrong.

            (Am I the only person here who thinks that’s obvious?)

          • For your consideration….

            You and I both know that throw was bad. We don’t have to be Jim Miller to say that. You and I can also look at the whole game and not light the fuck out of Cutler like Miller did this morning. It was uncalled for. It was ironic given the pedestrian nature of Jim’s game. it was also crazy talk because you can’t discount a whole game of work for one play, a play that did not cause the game to end.
            Fucking stop it, all of you.

          • For your consideration….

            and don’t make predictions like that, it doesn’t make sense. You just claimed to know what Jim Miller would do if he magically transported from 2001 to 2014 to take the call into the headset from Trestman on 3rd and 1.

          • Big Mike

            Just speculating. But speculation is based on how shitty and unique a decision Cutler made. It’s his special flaw. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a big Cutler fan. That’s why I’m this bothers me so much. If he can simply let plays like that go, he will be a top 10 QB. Very few QBs attempt that throw, that’s why I don’t think Miller would have.

          • BillW

            To further the point – I assume we all believe Cutler is better than Miller ever was. I sure do. So we expect him to NOT make that throw after 8 or 9 years in the league. It’s that simple. And while you can always point to other plays that could have been made – the QB has a responsibility to make the right decision in critical moments. He didn’t this time and if he had I believe they would have won the game.

            Put it another way- we expect that Cutler has to make up for bad defensive plays. But many seem to imply that defense should have made up for a Cutler mistake. We can’t win that way.

          • Big Mike

            Bill I agree. Cutler has to win games. The defense has to not lose them.

      • Viva

        I watched the game again last night and am dumbfounded that anyone is criticizing him for the loss. He fucked up on the screen, but they drove the ball all day long…

        • For your consideration….

          all fucking day Viva. One brutal pass. It was a bad mistake but the reaction going on throughout the media is outrageous. This town is insane and it’s unfortunate.

          • Big Mike

            The frustration with Cutler is because he keeps making the same mistake, over and over and over and over again. If he doesn’t throw the ball on the 2nd pick AND the Bears still lose, I feel quite a bit better about the team.

          • For your consideration….

            C’mon Mike, I watched 6 “elite quarterbacks” make a mental and physical mistakes this past week in the NFL. Game changing, score altering, mistakes. Most were made because they were trying to fucking WIN THE GAME.
            The Bills took over at the 31yd line, drive 70yards and kicked a field goal, the Bears turn around and drove it right back down the field and scored. The Bears didn’t lose because of the interception. They just didn’t. The Bears didn’t lose because of Marshall’s fumble and subsequent 30yd return by the Bills and their FG, they just didn’t. The Bears didn’t lose because the D gave up key third downs on scoring drives by the Bills, they just didn’t. The Bears didn’t lose because Jeffery got hurt. The Bears didn’t lose because of any one thing. They lost because of all of them added together because they all happened.

          • BillW

            Sorry – but Cutler could have made a better play to win the game than the one he tried to make. Even HE realizes that. Why don’t you?

          • For your consideration….

            I FUCKING REALIZE THAT BILL BUT THAT PLAY DIDN’T WIN OR LOSE THE FUCKING GAME AND IT IS CERTAINLY NOT THE LITMUS TEST OF WHAT THE SEASON HOLDS FOR THE TEAM NOR IS IT A REFERENDUM ON CUTLER’S ABILITY TO PLAY GOOD FOOTBALL LIKE HE DID DURING THE GAME.

          • Big Mike

            You are missing my point. Mistakes are inevitable, of course. But the bonehead mental errors are in the way of Cutler and being a top QB. If he ever improves in this part of his game, he’s going to challenge for Rodgers, Brady, Luck, and so on. Until then he’s not.

            My comments are not in context of losing one game. There were a dozen plays that could have changed the outcome.

          • BillW

            QBs will always be measured on how they finish. Even after the brutal pass he had the ball first in OT and went 3-out. And don’t foolishly tell me he’s just one of 11 guys. Not at that contract anymore – not with the weapons he has. He’s got the tools and the talent and the responsibility. And in this game he failed. There is no other way to say it.

            Remember MJs ethic? I failed over and over again and that is why I suceed?

            Cutler seems like he’s saying – I failed – so what?

          • Viva

            THEY DID NOT GO 3 and OUT IN OT. They got 1 first down…sorry, we need to fix the mantra.

          • For your consideration….

            what?

  • GPLDAN

    Sunday Night is going to be a public hanging like something outta the French Revolution.

    • Viva

      We will move the ball against them.

    • beninnorcal

      Actually I think you’re referring to more of a public beheading. Not with a dull knife like ISIS but with a guillotine is what you mean.
      I’ll be there to see the heads roll.

  • Viva

    NEWSFLASH:

    THE BEARS OFFENSE HAD ZERO 3 AND OUTS AGAINST THE BILLS.

    Everyone, now is the time to get back on the bandwagon. There offense is lethal, but human.

    • didn’t they have one in OT?

      not saying that to be doom and gloom. just saying it to be factual.

      it’s 1 game. we’re fine.

      • Big Mike

        Yes they did.

        • Viva

          NO THEY DID NOT.

          They got one first down in OT.

          • Big Mike

            I think we were agreeing. My “Yes they did” was to say they did have a First Down in OT. First play of OT
            J.Gay kicks 65 yards from BUF 35 to end zone, Touchback.20201st and 10 at CHI 20(15:00) (Shotgun) M.Forte left guard to CHI 33 for 13 yards (D.Williams). 1st and 10 at CHI 33(14:18) (Shotgun) J.Cutler pass incomplete deep left to S.Holmes (N.Robey). 2nd and 10 at CHI 33(14:12) (Shotgun) J.Cutler pass short middle to M.Bennett to CHI 36 for 3 yards (P.Brown). 3rd and 7 at CHI 36(13:33) (Shotgun) J.Cutler pass incomplete short left to S.Holmes. 4th and 7 at CHI 36(13:28) (Punt formation) P.O’Donnell punts 42 yards to BUF 22, Center-J.Cain, out of bounds.

          • Viva

            roger that

  • GPLDAN

    Here’s the deal – if there is ANY way – an email, a memo – anything – that shows that Goodell or the league office saw the video that TMZ released, it’s the end of Goodell. And he knows it.

    The shit is beginning to flow on this – the cops are now stating they offered this video to the NFL several times and they refused to take it.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2749187/Willful-ignorance-The-NFL-NEVER-asked-Ray-Rice-tape-casino-police-player-s-attorney-copies.html

  • bearsfantillend

    Man there are some seriously depressing people posting lately.
    All doom and gloom after 1 fucking game. I am with you johnnywad these guys are ridiculous.

    1 fucking game and everyone loses all hope.
    1 fucking game and we should fire everyone from the front office to the water boy.
    1 fucking game and even our offense won’t perform at all this year.
    1 fucking game and the defense has no hope(although this might be true).
    1 fucking game and we should just throw in the towel for the year.
    1 fucking game and people are complaining about Cutler’s demeanor in a fucking press conference. Did you seriously think that would change?

    You guys make me sad. You guys disgust me. FUCK ME!!! Look at the bright side of things every once in a while. Hey at least we are not the Giants! Our Punter looked good. We had over 400 yards of offense. We only gave up 20 points. The O-line still performed pretty good despite losing 2 guys.

    • CanadaBear

      Yes it was one game. Probably the biggest patsy on the schedule. The biggest reason some of us have zero hope for Sunday night is the opponent. We haven’t won in SF in 30 years. Every time we go out there we get waxed. Not just beat, waxed. Our D was hideous Sunday, esp against the very play that SF will run down our throats all night. If you want to run around and beat the drum for the Bears this week, good on ya. 30 years ago I would have too.

      • bearsfantillend

        Thats the point. How can you guys have zero hope? I have been a fan for 30+ years too. I know the record, i know the odds, yet i will be rooting the like hell on Sunday, because there is always that chance that the wind will blow the wrong way on a play that just might change the outcome of the game, there is always the chance that something amazing will happen, or that one player will be so extraordinary that it will change the course of history. And any fan that has zero hope is disgusting. Why even watch the game? Why even be a fan? Why even waste the time to post on this blog? I get it, it’s easier to see all the negatives, it’s easier believe there is no hope. So if we lose the loss is not so painful. Just remember Dallas held their own despite a horrific performance by Romo, and a D that isn’t the Steel Curtain.

        • CanadaBear

          I will be rooting for them and of course, I’ll watch it. I hope they win. Will they? Extremely doubtful. We can’t stop the read option to save our lives. Either the players are too undisciplined and/or Tucker and the D staff are totally incompetent. We haven’t stopped it in the last 17 games and one of the teams that does it the best is on tap for Sunday night. If you want to rah-rah yourself into thinking we have a chance, great.

        • Here’s the thing, to believe we can even be competitive (much less triumphant), you must believe:

          A. That Briggs (who looked like dog shit) will be fast enough to cut off Kap.
          B. That Allen (who looked like dog shit) can be stout enough to set the edge
          C. That DJ (who looked like dog shit) can shed blocks and make a tackle.
          D. That Shea (Did he even play?) Won’t get run over by a TE.
          E. That Bostic (Did he even play?) won’t fall for the inevitable PA off the read
          F. That Conte won’t whiff or get trucked by Gore/Hyde/Kap
          G. That someone, anyone, can actually cover Davis in the seam.
          H. That our DTs can penetrate (Only thing that can disrupt Kap).
          I. That ANY of our defenders plays with balls or smarts (outside Peanut, who looks slow)
          J. That Tucker can actually call a competent game plan.

          And that’s just on Defense.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Tomorrow the ST special and Sunday afternoon it’s Offense time. No need for a quicker O ‘read’, it all depends on how Cutler wakes up in the morning.

      • beninnorcal

        But Canada, while I agree we prolly won’t win, I must correct you on one thing: it’s not IN San Francisco anymore. We could see a fresh start in Santa Clara.
        Also, I’ll be there.

        • CanadaBear

          What’s the Bears record when you attend games? I’m desperately trying to come up with a positive angle for this game but I’ve got nothing. Have you heard anything about the new turf? If I remember correctly this is the 3rd field they have installed.

          • beninnorcal

            Not good when I’m there, sorry, I shouldn’t have answered that first question, Canada.
            Haven’t heard anything new on the turf. Maybe the shitty turf can work out in our favor simply by luck(a positive angle?)

          • CanadaBear

            Well if any team has experience playing on a shitty field … I read they replaced it a second time after they found out it was like a skating rink. That part of the game should be interesting.

            My record at Soldier Field is terrible. I can only remember one win in about a dozen games. Although that game was one for the ages and had my favorite run by Walter.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI0K7vxrdK0

      • SC Dave

        Well, if we have not won in SF in 30 years, it would seem we’re long overdue.

        • CanadaBear

          That’s one way to look at it!

    • MB30SD

      this!

    • BillW

      By the way – in all seriousness – why does Cutler do interviews in the press room after the game? Personally I don’t care if he blows off the media and thinks they are dumb. But given that, why is he there? He doesn’t offer anything insightful – and again I don’t care that he doesn’t. But he’s there at the podium. If he doesn’t want to be there – and if he isn’t going to “add value” then maybe he ought not to be there in the first place.

      • bearsfantillend

        you have been a fan for 50+ years and you don’t know the NFL Media Policy. I guess maybe you are still getting used to this new fangled interwebs thing going on, and don’t know how to do any research.

        http://www.profootballwriters.org/nfl-media-policy/

        • BillW

          To relieve congestion in the locker room, each club must bring the head coach and at least one star player of the game to an interview area as soon as possible.

          Doesn’t answer the question. Maybe you’re new to this whole reading and comprehension thing. I’ll grant you my post was more than 140 characters.

          why does CUTLER do interviews…

          (emphasis added).

          I read and did not see anywhere that it had to be the QB. Or that the media got to pick the player. It could be any “star player”.

          Of course, it would be make a huge negative statement if the club told Cutler not to do it. And it would really be contradictory to pay him all that money and then have someone else up there.

          And I realize the key phrase is “to relieve congestion” and most reporters would gather around Cutler.

          Or would they? As a fan of over 50 years (and having been on the internet before most people knew it existed – before AOL even – when it was primarily academic and you had to type in the whole IP address) – I’d rather hear from someone who wants to talk than someone who doesn’t.

          • bearsfantillend

            because customarily they bring the most important player to the outcome of the the game, which is usually the QB. Also the media want sound bytes and quotes. Cutler would definitely be the one the media wants to speak to because win or lose he usually says something that they can use to fuel their hate for him in the papers. his disdain for the media actually helps them sell papers to the uneducated masses. do i have to spell everything out for you? pretty basic conclusions here, i would think that someone that claims to be able to connect the dots easily would be able to figure it out

          • BillW

            I guess you’re right but my wondering is deeper and giving the press too much credit. I (foolishly maybe) want to think most reporters would ignore him and go to someone who wants to talk.

            I happened to see Mike Adamle a couple years ago at a fund raiser and had a chance to talk with him for a bit. Unsolicited, he turned the conversation to Cutler and after a while said the reporters dream of standing up as one, giving him the finger, and walking out before he says anything.

            Dumb, immature, unprofessional -etc etc. But I believe him.

            I respect very few reporters but Brad Biggs is at the top of that short list. He rarely if ever gives into the “drama” crap. He simply reports football. I don’t recall many times he interviews Cutler – and I could well be wrong but I don’t recall hearing him ask questions in those pressers (I listen to him every Monday morning on the score so I think I’d recognize his voice, but again I could well be wrong.)

            And by the way – he thinks Cutler’s INT was a major contributor to them losing. Of course he has no where NEAR the insight and knowledge of you all here, but it’s something.

          • GPLDAN

            Bill –

            Mike Adamle is older than you are, but he looks 40. Is he a vampire?

            Thank you.

            GP

          • BillW

            My wife thought something similar when I told her how old he was. Not a vampire- more like the male equivalent of Joan Rivers (RIP).

          • bearsfantillend

            pretty sure you are giving too much credit.

            if they actually followed through with this “reporters dream of standing up as one, giving him the finger, and walking out before he says anything”

            I would respect them more, It would be awesomely epic. but they won’t do that because they NEED Cutler. he is easy to get page views, because when all else fails and there is nothing really to report, they can always lean on the go to story that Cutty is a spoiled petulant child.

            btw – i am pretty sure everyone on here agrees that cutlers INT contributed to the loss, we have pretty much all agreed that it was inexcusable, but it is not the end all be all reason we lost.

  • beninnorcal

    The turnovers hurt my head- bad, especially the last pic. But take away any one of them and we would have one.
    The Bills played a better game, still can’t say the Bills are a better team.

    • johnnywad

      The Brandon Marshall fumble changed the entire complexion of the game. Put that one in the end zone and the Bills crash and burn. Shit happens.

      • beninnorcal

        Agreed, I still feel the stabbing pain I felt when he dropped the ball, went from a nice first down on a nice drive to a totally different game.

      • Yup. Football is about momentum swings.
        It takes a mentally tough team to endure them, and change momentum.
        We are not that team. Not now at least.

  • BillW

    I stand corrected and apologize for my error. The Bears did in fact get a first down in the OT. Absolutely wrong of me to not check that before making that criticism.

  • Bender McLugh

    Sick of hearing that the Bills game is the easiest on the schedule. That won’t be known for at least 4 games people.

    • CanadaBear

      That’s true but going on past experience, the Bills will be mediocre at best. Not sure about you but what I saw Sunday was a very mediocre team doing enough good things and hanging around long enough to beat another mediocre team that shot itself in the foot repeatedly.

  • BillW

    I don’t think my last post took. If it does later, sorry for the double post.

    I stand corrected and apologize. The Bears did in fact get a first down in the OT. It was wrong of me to make that criticism without first checking the facts.

  • MB30SD

    I am big with Johnny and Bear’s huge penis (and yonny and viva, et al), here.

    Just stop. 1 fucking game you cunts! ; )

    Look, the 9ers game is most likely going to be rough no matter what. They looked strong, even against the cowboys and they are one of the top 5 teams in the NFL at this point.

    We might lose and we might lose poorly. But that still doesn’t mean we’re crashing and burning. It just means we had a pretty rough first outing… just like the pats, chargers, etc…etc…etc…

    Was it over when the germans bombed pearl harbor!?

    • BillW

      Hey – we might have something in common. Great line.

      • MB30SD

        Doubt it bill

        • BillW

          Better line

          • BillW

            I do respect your screen name and icon. One of the best players in Bears history.

    • But it’s not just ONE game. It’s a continuation of the whole 2013 season.

      198 yards rushing when we KNEW they were going to get off the bus running. And I think we can all agree that the 9ers are just a little better than the Bills in almost every position/level.

      Add that to our historic outings in SF, and there’s reason for pessimism.

      I don’t think we’re going to lose every game this season, or miss the playoffs, I just think we’re gonna get creamed on prime-time cuz we are indeed SOFT.

      They say a team reflects the HC, right?

      • MB30SD

        I guess. I have no illusions about the SF game. It will be interesting to see how we do against teams like the packers, panthers, falcons.

        I don’t think we’re good enough to beat the 9ers, broncos or hawks… everyone else, any given sunday.

        And to be honest, I’m kinda surprised at you. Thought you’d give it a bit more time.

        • I was already VERY skeptical about Tucker/DeCamel.
          This game merely confirmed my fears (about Tucker at least).
          I also wanted to see if DJ/Briggs were just dogging it in PS. Guess what, they weren’t. They’re just old. The Bills were picking on Peanut, and he looked old too, which I did not expect.
          Conte is still taking bad angles. Shea is still invisible. Allen looked like Pepp on the Pack, and I imagine the Vike fans were laughing like we were laughing at the Pack. Houston was invisible.

          Only guys who looked decent were Young, Ratfliff, and some Sutton.

          And again, to me this is just the continuation of the 2013 season.

          You can’t win if you can’t stop the run. It’s almost a mathematical certainty.

          We can’t stop the run. We just cant.

          • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

            that´s why the time is running out for both, Emery should hire one with more experience or should promote Huntt if things gets worse.

  • FantuzPhysics

    Two bad throws by Jay. One terrible goal line play by Jared. One Brandon Marshall fumble. Two starting OL down. This does not happen every game. We have to believe we can do better. Also, the Bears had the worst run D in the league last year and weren’t the Bills 2nd in rushing last year? It’s not the end of the world y’all.

    • Good teams figure out ways to overcome.
      I think the Eagles were down 17-0 and came back.
      Obviously, we are not a good team.

      • BillW

        To quote MB30 –
        This!

  • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

    I hope Tucker sends a msg. to all, includes myself, detractors that defense is improving. SF´s game would be ideal.

  • johnnywad

    “Haven’t won in San Fran in 400 years.” Blah blah blah. Worst argument in all of sports. The rosters and coaching staff are nearly entirely turned over in the last five. Hell they aren’t even playing in the same city. (If that matters). Outside of the last few seasons, it just doesn’t matter.

    • CanadaBear

      Well the last beat down was less than 2 years ago. If you want I can link their roster from 2012. Lots of the same names that killed us.

      • johnnywad

        I know. Chris Williams, Lance Louis, J’Marcuss Webb, Devin Hester, Dane Sanzenbacher, Frank Omiyale and Jason Campbell all had great games. Mike Tice and Lovie not so much though. And Bob Babich, boy did he struggle. Give me a break Canada.

        • CanadaBear

          Johnny it’s less than 2 years ago. Yes our O has improved. The D and ST’s are worse. They cancel each other out. It’s not like a couple of plays here and there and we would have been right back in it. They roared up and down the field with almost no resistance from us.

  • GPLDAN

    Did you guys see the Packers Amoeba defense against the SHawks?

    Basically everybody stands up and kind of swarms around like something under a microscope and you never really know who your assignment is – but the Seahawks really had no problem with it using zone blocking. Collinsworth was making fun of Dom Capers for that D by the time Seattle was just blasting it with slants anyway.

    I’m not advocating a return to Cover 2 High Always (the Lovie or Madden 14 stratergy) but our run blitzes can be seen from satellite (or in my case, the All 22. But a Sat would see it too).

    Tucker needs to come up with something else. Blitz Peanut at the corners. Peanut, btw, has slowed down considerably. It’s much more evident on game film. $40. Buy it now.

    • MB30SD

      tucker man. if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, and smells like a duck?

      • GPLDAN

        Shit that pisses me off: Khaseem Greene has a kick ass pre-season, probably ought to be given a shot to take reps from Briggs, and what happens?

        He didn’t even dress for the Bills game.

        He must have fucked Mel Tucker’s daughter or something.

        • When Bostic was interviewed, they asked him if he was surprised Greene was inactive.

          Bostic did some sort of double-speak about ‘they know, they have the best intentions, etc’ In other words, yes, he was surprised.

          • BillW

            So was Brad Biggs.

    • BillW

      Great observation. I remember being at a GB game (Monday night I think) when the Bears sealed the game with a Peanut Punch (before he got known for that).

      Anyway, Capers ran what one reporter called a “Times Square Defense”; sort of the same thing – just milling around until the snap. The offense beat that easily. It was obvious that the guys standing around had no momentum or leverage and were easily blocked or avoided. It was plain dumb – and an example of a coach thinking he’s the smartest guy in the room

  • bearsfantillend
    • GPLDAN

      Your avatar now makes sense.

    • MB30SD

      thank you sir may I have another. Uplifting indeed.

  • OK, I’m reposting this on it’s own. Check it off yourself.

    Here’s the thing, to believe we can even be competitive (much less triumphant), you must believe:

    A. That Briggs (who looked like dog shit) will be fast enough to cut off Kap.
    B. That Allen (who looked like dog shit) can be stout enough to set the edge
    C. That DJ (who looked like dog shit) can shed blocks and make a tackle.
    D. That Shea (Did he even play?) Won’t get pancaked by a TE.
    E. That Bostic (Did he even play?) won’t fall for the inevitable PA off the read
    F. That Conte won’t whiff or get trucked by Gore/Hyde/Kap
    G. That someone, anyone, can actually cover Davis in the seam.
    H. That our DTs can penetrate (Only thing that can disrupt Kap).
    I. That ANY of our defenders plays with balls or smarts (outside Peanut, who looks slow)
    J. That Tucker can actually call a competent game plan.

    And that’s just on Defense.

  • MB30SD

    How bout dem apples motherfuckers?!

    L – 49ERS

    W – JETS

    W – PACKERS

    W – PANTHERS

    L – FALCONS

    W – DOLPHINS

    L – PATRIOTS

    • BillW

      You know what – that’s the best thing I’ve read today. That is in fact very realistic. The toughest may be the Packers but that also is the key game. I do believe they can beat them (the two Packer games are those that my upbringing makes it impossible to concede) and if they do win that one then they are poised to stay in it the rest of the way.

    • I actually think we can beat all those teams, except, ya know, the 9ers.

      Jets (and Geno) are better than the Bills, but definitely winnable esp since their secondary is banged up.
      I already stated we’re sweeping the Pack, and I still hold to that.
      The Panthers will be tough, but again, a winnable game.
      Falcons will be a shoot-out, but that’s fine by me.
      Fins still suck. They always play the Pats tough, but they’re not scary.
      Patriots have owned us, but their Oline is very suspect, and Gronk might be on IR by then.

    • Big Mike

      4-4 after 8 is a good spot for the Bears. 10-6 still at hand hitting their peak at the end of the year, rather than in Oct.

  • MB30SD

    Rice’s wife speaks: http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/09/us/ray-rice-nfl-janay-rice/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

    And for erraone crying for ray rice’s loss of ability to earn: http://money.cnn.com/2014/09/08/news/companies/ray-rice-contract/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

    Uhhhh, yeah. Just go away dude.

  • For your consideration….

    i’m tapping out. I expect all of you fags to turn in your cards on your way out. Do me one favor though. Watch another teams game once in a while to get some perspective about what every team goes through both good and bad. Watch an elite quarterback or one that you deem to be and make sure to use the same litmus test for their performances that you do for ours.
    One game and you call it in and prejudge the other 15. lol, go fucking die somewhere alone.

    • GPLDAN

      I love it when the LuftWaffle uses scorched earth tactics. It’s so late ’45 of him.

      • I would argue, more vintage ’44’, or before the debacle at StalinGrad.

        • SC Dave

          That would be vintage ’41 then. Unless, of course, you were referring to the RAF or USAAF.

          • MB30SD

            Mmmmm, yeees…. quiiite.

        • GPLDAN

          Hmmm…yes…quite…. (puffs pipe)

  • I say, fuck it. Start Bostic at Will. Jones at MLB. Greene at Sam.
    Put Young instead of Allen.
    Sutton instead of Flatbread.
    McCray instead of Conte.

    Make Peanut shadow another old physical WR in Bolden.
    Have Fuller on Davis.

    If we’re going down, might as well try something radical.

    • GPLDAN

      Greene’s been training to play WIll all PS. You wold use Christian Jones at Sam. Tucker blitzed Shae a bunch of times, but each time Shae was stoned by a tackle or by a back.

      Jones has a shot at beating a block. Shae does not. Shae is blockable with a well placed Ottoman.

      • MB30SD

        jes

      • Yeah, the thing is, I still see Bostic as a natural Will (much like I see Shae as more of a MLB).
        Jones played MLB in college, though I can see the argument for Bostic there.
        Greene played some S, so I think he can cover, which is crucial at SAM.

        That’s just my take, though I am aware the Bears cast them differently, but WTF do they know? Obviously, not much when it comes to LBs.

        These are the same Geniuses who were telling us Shea was a DE.

        • MB30SD

          look up. thats the right line up if you’re taking DJ, Briggsy, and conte out.

        • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

          You can move all pieces as you want but Tucker is who sends plays. it is supposed the new scheme was set according to LB strength, right? if so why are they still thinking instead of reacting?

    • FantuzPhysics

      Conte is fine for now. I do expect to see some DT shuffling sooner rather than later though.

      • MB30SD

        Chris conte is not… as they say…. fine.

        McCray is a safer choice. Not a better athlete, but a safer choice. jes?

        • FantuzPhysics

          I want everyone to realize that Conte is the FS…literally the last line of defense in our system…and yet he is 2nd in tackles? This was similar to last year…no help from the LBs…terrible LB play.

          • MB30SD

            I get it… but when a dude is your LAST LINE OF TACKLING DEFENSE… don’t you want a guy who can do just that.

            We’ve already all agreed, conte isnt that guy, so put in McCray.

          • FantuzPhysics

            I have no idea why we can’t tackle. It isn’t just Conte, but he is terrible at tackling too. Do they not teach tackling anymore?

          • MB30SD

            I don’t know or care why… i just want someone back there who’s better at it.

          • FantuzPhysics

            We’d be better off fixing the LB corp first.

          • MB30SD

            and how, pray tell, do you suggest we do that?

          • FantuzPhysics

            Not sure, but your suggestion of “Jones Bostic Greene” may be a good start.

          • MB30SD

            I think jones is too green (see how I did that), and briggsy and dj just have too much experience not to keep in… no matter how slow.

          • When Kap turns the corner like a gazelle, and Briggs and DJ run after him like a toothless 13 year old Lion that stops running after a few strides, you’ll change your tune.

          • The Butch Plan.

          • johnnywad

            Nu uh. Dave didn’t.

          • MB30SD

            damn it dave (and mike)! Why are you guys being so difficult!?

            I’ve already conceded that conte’s a decent athlete and mediocre in pass protect.

            Can’t we all just get alongs?

    • MB30SD

      You’re bassackwards maings. Here’s my bizarro-world lineup:

      Allen Ratliff Sutton Young
      Jones Bostic Greene
      Nut | TimmyJ | Fuller
      Mundee McCraycray

      Boom!

      • Like I said, I can see Bostic at MLB, and Jones at Will, esp since Bostic is a bit more familiar with the system. I was thinking Bostic more on the edges to contain the read (since I think he might be a smidgen faster than Jones) and lay fools out, but I can see him at MLB.

        We need to get younger and more athletic to stop these pistol-reads, and we might as well start now.

        Also, you’d rather have Allen instead of Houston? Houston is like 300 pounds. He might not pressure, but in this game, I think he can set the edge/contain better than Allen, though Allen is a bit more savvy.

        • MB30SD

          in reality, this ain’t gonna happen anyway.

          I’d rotate allen/houston depending on down/sitch. Also as I said below, briggsy and dj ain’t coming out cause they’re just too experienced, no matter how slow/don’t care they are.

          The most realistic changes will be McCray or the dude we just picked up off the practice squad in for conte, the dline shifting a bit, and MAYBE greene suiting up and getting a shot for a few plays.

          Again, it’s been ONE game and we’re not the only ‘better team on paper’ that lost… the pats, chargers, baltimore, almost pit… etc…

          They’re going to see what was first game jitters/slips and see how we do in the next 2 games. SF is a bit of a wash since it will be a miracle if we can beat them in their new stadium home opener.

    • SC Dave

      I doubt Conte comes out, but who knows?

      • If we had Caroll or Harbaugh at HC, I think all these moves would be in play.
        But we don’t. So, we’re going to roll with the same exact D that the Bills defeated.

    • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

      If something radical is need to… fire Tucker if season goes to the drain after 0-4 and promote Herring. meanwhile a big fish is searching.

      • I have no problem with this, after the bye.

        • MB30SD

          love the idea… who do we bring in?

          • is this the year the panthers go 1-15 and we get our ron ron back?

          • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

            how my grand ma says: “from your mouth to god´s ears”

          • MB30SD

            that was my first thought my semitic brother… but didn’t they JUST reup that mofo? At least that’s what stopped me from pondering the same out loud… that and do you think he’d come home? I’d hope so, but not sure now that he’s been an HC.

          • Don’t depress me.
            It must have been sweet for Ron to beat Lovie at his home openor with Derek Anderson.
            DEREK ANDERSON.

          • MB30SD

            this…

            Trac, are you listening… DEREK ANDERSON!!!!

            Hahahahha

            (mmmmmmm… biiiiiltooooong)

          • Ron thought so much about a Lovie team, that they asked him, “Are you going to play Cam?”
            Ron, “Cam? Why would I do that? Lovie’s still coaching the Bucs, right?”

          • wonder what he said in the postgame handshake. “still can’t run an offense, i see.”

          • johnnywad

            Man if so, Lovie is a heaping pile of dogshit. Keuchly alone gets you two wins doesn’t he? Has to.

          • Realistically, At this point, we gotta promote from with-in, maybe Clint Hurtt just so I can say “Clint Hurtt”.
            All the good DC candidates will be fired HCs, like maybe Rex Ryan, or “promoted” HCs from college.
            Just as long as we get rid of Tucker (If we continue sucking); it’ll be a sign that Emery and Trest are proactive. Don’t need the defensive equivalent of Ron Turner.

  • BillW

    This is too far up the thread to respond to there:

    “in the last 2 days you have insinuated several occasions that many of us are idiots and don’t fully understand the game. The i’ve been a fan for 50 years so i know everything bullshit gets old. You come off as a cynical old man that keeps saying back in my day i’ve seen shit man, lots of shit man, so i know what gonna happen and nothing is surprising. Quite frankly it’s off putting, and I really understand why many of us would insult you. It’s not what you are saying, its how you are saying it. Its the backhanded insults like “bunch of well meaning Bear fans that just haven’t seen enough football to know contenders from pretenders”.that are the problem.”

    I get that and you have a valid point.

    My “defense”:
    If you read through ALL my posts the last two days, I MANY times said things like “I could be wrong” or “my 50+ years doesn’t make me right”. I can take insults jsut fine – just try to be more accurate.

    “Back in my day” includes many of the teams you guys have seen. Not ALL of it is that long ago. I can easily look at all the post Ditka years and say the same thing. The common factor – the McCaskeys.

    I don’t think any of you are idiots or dumb etc. I will admit to believing that some of you don’t understand the game. I base that on refusing to see how critical Cutler’s INT was . Many of you of course do see that. So it was wrong to say “bunch of Bear fans that don’t know”. That was wrong and you’re right for calling me out on that generalization.

    It really is a generational thing and I get that. However it works both ways – I get generalizations like I’m new to the internet etc. and get off my lawn (which by the way I said last thread making fun of myself). It comes across as if you’re saying my points are useless because of my age too.

    I don’t think certain points made here are useless BECAUSE of your age – I am simply saying that in many cases it takes seeing the same thing several times before you can see the pattern and I’m acknowledging that many of you haven’t seen it enough to get that.

    I will stand pat on one observation – if you don’t see that Cutler’s INT was a major contributor to the loss, then you don’t understand football. Of COURSE they still could have won. Of course he made great plays that put them in a position to win. But the INT was a major contributor. Even he owns up to that.

    Another one is calling out Jim Miller for his observations and using his statistics as a player as the reason. I’m not going to waste more time pointing out how ludicrous that is.

    I have acknowledged and taken responsibility for errors I’ve made and when I feel a valid point against me was made. Maybe that’s a generational thing too, because I seem to be the only one here who does that.

    • GPLDAN

      Hey Bill, I had a CompuServe account via dial up in 1982. Granted, I was only 12 years old.

      Do I win? In college I used the original UM-Merit Network to connect to a friend’s machine at a different Big Ten university. Do I win yet? Do I beat you as “been using the Interwebz before you”?

      • That crappy dial up thing that’s a pain in the ass…I thought that was for nerds!

      • BillW

        Technically Compuserve and the like were not the internet – but I am duly impressed. The concept was the same but it was one machine to another – not a true “Web”. When I was in grad school at U of C in the 70s I was able to do sort of research in the library that connected to other university libraries. Now maybe I’m wrong and that wasn’t actually the internet either but my recollection was sitting at a CRT type arcane looking numbers to connect to another computer and then doing primitive searches for journal articles that our library didn’t have.

    • bearsfantillend

      Since you brought up my post against you, i think i should respond. i think we are somewhere on the same page, not on the same paragraph but at least on the same page. I only brought out the generalizations against you after i felt my knowledge and many others were being insulted by your generalizations. There are a lot of very smart and insightful posters here, not just pertaining to the Bears but Football overall, and to show up after being away as long as you were, and making generalizations against posters is not going to sit well with many of us. I do think you have some valid points, but maybe it is something about your writing style that is off putting. FYI,I have been called out on my style also, been accused of being too argumentative even when i am agreeing with people, i’ve been working on it. By the way I read every post anyone makes, so when i made that post it was more about your style than content. Your style comes off as preachy in a sense. Everyone has the right to their opinions, even you.(LOL) I even agree with some of what you are saying, which is hard because like i said earlier, it is not what you are saying, it is how you are saying it.

  • MB30SD

    open letter to Bill….

    Bill,

    Please stop. And then go away again.

    You are a dark, unhappy, and troublesome force on this blog. Please call your therapist and schedule an apt post haste. Tell him you’re sorry (for whatever happened) and that you’ll start seeing him again regularly starting…. now.

    Go to your medicine cabinet and take a double dose of prozac, and then stay on your doses as prescribed by your doctor.

    Finally, maybe take up a martial art, or tai chi, or possibly yoga to lift your spirits, demeanor, and self-worth.

    I hope all this helps. Signed,

    ~ The not crazy people on this blog

    • MB30SD

      honestly, I’m a nice guy in real life, and I try not to be this brutal… but your style and the way you’ve come on now in over a year and hijacked the blog with your negativity… like you always do… just sticks in my fucking craw bill.

      I’ve never liked your style, and yeah a lot of people dont like mine either, but dude… your all-consuming negativity about everything, and that’s all you bring (not even boobies) sucks. I’m sorry. but I’m not really sorry.

      • BillW

        OK

        • MB30SD

          I’m not saying you’re not a great guy, dad, grampa(?), I’m sure you are. You don’t seem like an asshole like some of us… but the all-encompassing negativity is just too much.

          Just stop that and everything will be ok. I’m not basing this on today… I’m basing it on the pattern over the last 3 years.

          You are a smart guy Bill, but this isn’t the place to come to vent only in losses. Just change the tone a bit and don’t make every single post a negative.

          that’s my take, and I’m not the blog mother (kind of), but it just gets hard to stomach after we’ve all been here all off season and then all of a sudden boom… I felt compelled to voice my opinion maings.

          All is not lost. If we are 0-8 at the bye and we’ve shit the bed in everything, the blog floor will be ALL yours. But when 5+ year, all year blog regs are bailing out because of all the negativity, something’s broke where on sat it wasn’t.

          • For your consideration….

            MB, when I bail it’s usually for a day or two because I’ve become too frustrated with what I believe to be incredibly critical and unrealistic fans.
            I saw a lot of good things on Sunday and a really frustrating couple of plays. I’m still tapping out for a couple of days this week because I really don’t want to be hurtful to anyone and I felt like it was getting to that point. I know I told certain people to die but I wanted to go even more negative. I wanted to Jericho but will remain steadfast in my belief that things will work out this year. Nothing will make me happier than to see us go 10-6 or better and go to the playoffs.
            A lot of people look at our schedule and say how can we win. I spent the money on the packages, actually watch the other fucking teams play and say, that’s how.

        • BillW

          One or two corrections and then I’ll take your advice (most of it; well some of it. Well just the go away part.)

          It’s pointless to go back and check but I know I don’t “always” come on here negatively when the season starts. Not even usually. I certainly was very optimistic at the start of last year.

          But that’s your impression of me – and so that explains a lot. Especially on the internet, impressions are impossible to prove wrong.

          If we had won the Bills game and lost to SF (as most expect) I would not have come on after the SF game. Seriously, I hoped to never come on at all this year until the end. And I hoped I’d come on and say I was dead wrong at the end of last year.

          But last Sunday happened and as someone else said it smacked of a continuation of last season. So I jumped the gun and said that confirmed my worst fears.

          That’s it. Except first on the new thread.

          • MB30SD

            i get it bill… let’s just try to keep things a bit more positive till we’re all sure we suck ass and the season is totally lost.

          • BillW

            Peace “maings”!

  • beninnorcal

    Bill, I fail to see how Cutler’s late INT was anymore critical to our loss than the other turnovers. All of the turnovers resulted in points. Take any of them back and we win.
    But WTF do I know about football?

    • Big Mike

      Cutler is expected to win games. The offense is the strength of the team. Their bar is higher. Its been talked about all off season. The Bears have a top 5 offense. If their defense can be average this team has a shot. The defense hit their mark. The offense did not.

  • PFT power ranking has Bears at #19

    “19. Chicago Bears (No. 12; 0-1): The Bills don’t have to worry about
    moving to Canada. With more performances like Sunday’s against Buffalo,
    Bears coach Marc Trestman may need to.”

    The funny part? They ranked the Bills #26. Not sure which is worse. Us being ranked #19, or losing to a team that is still ranked much lower than us even though they beat us.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/09/week-one-power-rankings-5/

  • Britton package unleashed. I guess we can win at SF after-all.

    The Bears are expected to re-sign free agent G/T Eben Britton.

    The Bears are dealing with injuries to C Roberto Garza
    (high-ankle sprain) and LG Matt Slauson (ankle). Britton will provide
    depth for Week 2. – RotoWorld

  • Oh, PLZ baby jebus, let it be us…

    “ESPN’s Adam Caplan reports Ravens ILB Arthur Brown has been the subject of trade discussions.

    Brown is buried on the Ravens’ depth chart after losing his
    starting job to rookie C.J. Mosley. He played zero defensive snaps in
    Week 1, and doesn’t contribute on special teams. Brown has tons of
    talent though, so it makes sense teams are interested. The
    linebacker-needy Cowboys could make sense as a landing spot.” – RotoWorld

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