• Is there an “anybody not currently associated with the Chicago Bears” option? That’s where I’m at right now. After I get back from California (2 days after their last game, hopefully 1 day after the entire staff has been fired), I’ll start looking at candidates.

    • Trac

      Hey J. In your heart of hearts, do you really think that’s going to happen?

      • Until last night? No. Now? I see no way any of these coaches are back.

        • johnnywad

          Agreed

        • JP

          yeah, I thought kromer had a decent shot of being back until the tears, but the franchise is flat out being clowned around the country. Bringing these guys back would demonstrate a level of ineptitude usually only reserved for the Raiders front office.

          • johnnywad

            Well said JP. Bears are Raiders East right now. Sucks.

        • Trac

          A small part of me wants to believe you but I just don’t think moving on from this coaching staff will yield us a long term fix this year. I’m thinking another year of drafting better players is the only bright spot we’ll have until 2016.

          • oh, I’m not saying it fixes things. But it has to be done. The team is still paying for years of bad drafting, and it will take years of good drafting to fully erase that.

  • I’m going to go out on a limb here and guess that “other” is Viva with his write in candidate Dave Toub.

    • BerwynBomber

      Is that whom Viva prefers? I never knew where he stood on Toub.

      • Viva

        I am a broken record.

        • BerwynBomber

          No worries. Most of us are about certain things. I was just being a wiseass.

          • Spoiler alert. He won’t.
            You think Emery wants anything to do with the Lovie era? Imagine if he hires Toub.
            The press will crucify him.

    • Viva

      I like the way you think.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Oh, suuure.

  • BearDown100393

    Nick Saban.

  • Viva

    Jeff,
    Until this poll comes down, you are dead to me.
    Dave Toub fo HC.
    Viva

  • Trac

    Here’s a glass of cold water for ya boys. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO COACHES IN 2015! No coach worth a darn will take this job before the end of the 2015 season. We’re that bad in my opinion. Im tellin ya, Emery has carte blanche from Georgy boy to rebuild with this current crop of coaches.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I strongly disagree with the assertion that “no coach worth a damn” would take on the Bears in 2015.

      • Trac

        I said “darn”. Just sayin.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Misquote corrected.

      • BearDown100393

        Jaime Lannister’s reputation among monarchs is more trusting than Jay Cutler’s with coaches.

      • Trac

        The good ones will think twice about an organization that brings on a new coaching staff like the Bears did when they canned Lovie after going 10-6 who then fires the new regime after only two years. That’s not a good track record for any organization and coaches will be hesitant to take this job because of the instability. Nope, I’m pretty sure we’ll be treading water for another year.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I still disagree. EVERY Head Coach thinks “I can fix that.”

          Even Dick Vermiel thought he could turn Lawrence Phillips around and Jimmy Johnson thought he could fix the Dolphins.

          • Trac

            Ok, I’ll get philosophical on your ass then. Do we really want a coach that thinks he can fix the 2014 Bears? With a less than zero talent pool on D? Hmm. I’d rather draft some more studs in the spring, roll the dice with Trestman next year.

          • BillW

            If emery is still here I think one more down year pays off in the long run as you imply.

            Silver lining:no unfulfilled expectations

          • AlbertInTucson

            Bears drafting multiple studs in one draft. Is that a realistic expectation?

          • Trac

            I don’t know if it is but like my drill instructors used to say, “they better get their ass’s up that hill. Now!!!”.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            Bill Parcels thought he could exist and succeed with Jerry Jones.

    • guest

      Absolutely. God himself could not coach a roster full of bums.

  • Scott W.

    One thing is clear(er); Trestman has no respect in the locker room either. Think Kromer woulda sounded off like that in N.O.?
    It’s coming unhinged.
    But, take heart. The McCaskeys won’t notice until 2018.

  • AlbertInTucson

    I didn’t vote because I think it will still be Trestman but I couldn’t give him a “Should Be”at this point.

    I think Harbaugh is a pipe dream.

    I’d be happy to see Rex on board, but only as DC.

    Bevill? His offense seems to be predicated on A) Great defensive personnel and B) Russell Wilson’s ability to extend plays.

    Bowles is interesting, for sure. That Arizona is 11-3 bespite a TORRENT of injuries, including several on his defense, is remarkable.

    Shanny? Well, evidence is pretty clear that the front office is a circus in D.C. and he WAS born in Oak Park, but…

    Shaw.I think going to the college ranks would be another first for the Bears so, I doubt it.

    I think for the McCaskeys, it’s always going to be “Other” so why bother throwing out brand names?

  • GPLDAN

    Since Irish has vanished into the Burma jungle, I feel the need to hold down the crazy conspiracy wing of things.

    This whole thing is weird and something doesn’t add up.

    Did Biggsy just call Ian Rappaport and ask him who his source was? Did Ian record the conversation? How did Biggs end up with it? Did he threaten to sit on Ian?

    And once the assertion is made, if Kromer thinks he wasn’t on tape – doesn’t he deny it? He opens himself up as the snitch and hurts his career badly. The fake tears, the weirdness of it. It has a Nixon ring to it.

    I think maybe he’s taking the fall here like a good soldier for the Jay comments, but it wasn’t just him. I’d really like to know how they got Rappaport to roll over on his source.

    • John Doe

      LOL!

      Did he threaten to sit on Ian?

      I have watched Biggsy over the last 2-3 years and he keeps getting bigger and bigger.. He is now bigger than a 330 pound O-lineman.

      • Viva

        Dude needs to drop a buck fifty.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Biggs. Talk about a guy who is aptly named.

          • BillW

            No doubt. But he has always avoided the soap opera crap. That he is speculating on things now shows how bad it really is. Wonder if the Mccaskeys see that. Wonder if Biggs will lose respect from them or will they realize it’s an indicator

    • Viva

      The butler did it to the maid with a candlestick in the parlor.

    • The more interesting part of the story was that Kromer was only ONE of the leaks.
      There were/are others.
      So obviously, more than one person is FED UP with Cutler. If Kromer got smoked out, imagine how high up the other “leak” is that he can’t be smoked out yet.

    • DaBearsBlog

      I think Ian had one source: Kromer. And I think he went off on his for the other comments about Tucker, “buyer’s remorse”…etc.

      What cracks me up that FOUR players in the offensive locker room then leaked the confession to Biggs.

      • BillW

        You’re theory fits best. That four players went to biggsy means several things:
        Biggsy will be busy for some time to come
        Players will talk especially since the coach did
        When players start getting cut we’re in for some great stories
        Trestman has no respect from his players (duh)
        Mccaskeys probably hope this all goes away even though it won’t

        • BearDown100393

          I think it goes even further regarding the locker room. I don’t think it ends with Trestman. I think the players are full blown out against management and ownership.

  • BearDown100393

    Odd that the Bears refuse to partake in Hard Knocks yet quite willing to air out the dirty laundry to the same local media that they pretend to hate.

  • Viva

    Can Trestman.

  • BlameAngelo

    Why the boner for OC guys as our next HC? Defense wins championships, Build the D. O is a luxury.

    • BerwynBomber

      I tend to agree. Other than drafting a potential replacement for Jay, I wouldn’t spend a dime more on this O. Build the D over the next two or three years and then you can focus on rebuilding the O into a ball control attack with new personnel. I believe this was template up in Seattle.

      • johnnywad

        Its stunning how quickly this version of Seattle was put together. If there’s a formula there, I hope the Bears can decipher it.

  • BillW

    I wish I felt as JWood does about the staff being fired. Sad to say I feel they won’t. It’s depressing to realize the team is too stubborn to admit mistakes. And more depressing to realize that they’d probably just make another mistake even if they did.

    Trestman said he handled the situation. Nobody including (especially) the players believe that. He “handled” it by trying to end the discussion. His lack of leadership is appalling. But then you look at the people above him and sadly he fits right in.

    It’s going to be tough this off season once we see all three coordinators go but the head coach stay. I suspect that has never happened

    I’ve been a bear fan so long I can’t stop caring. But I will probably not watch them anymore including Monda night.

    • BearDown100393

      Gruden is going to kill the Bears on MNF. I also figure it is a high probability that Jay pulls the chute early in the game to end his season a bit earlier. There is nothing for him to gain being on the field now. ESPN will have dozens of cameras on that sideline.

      • BillW

        I’ll read about what they had to say. Won’t waste my evening on that garbage organization and have my cable box register that it’s being watched in my household

        Family meeting on the psls after the announcements are made. . Definitely selling low if we do so maybe we just keep them and dump the tickets to the brokers.

        • BearDown100393

          Honest question: Did you ever think you would see the day, to express what you just wrote?

          • BillW

            Absolutely not. The Bears have been a part of my life for as long as I can remember. Dad uncle grandpa as I’ve mentioned. It’s just a sport but it is actually somewhat depressing to realize

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    I don’t know who the fuck is that Shaw dude, but I’d rather have Gary Kubiak before Shanahan, Rex Ryan, Todd Bowles, Darrell Bevell, David Shaw.
    Thing is you only have a difference maker in Harbaugh, the others don’t move the needle a bit.
    So I only have Harbaugh as a viable option.

    PS: Josh McDaniels is another intriguing candidate. I’d hire him before any of the ‘not Harbaugh’ pool.

    • BearDown100393

      Jay loves Josh. And Josh loves Jay. Good choice.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Huh? Since when?

        McDaniels shipped Jay, Marshall and a good tight end out of town during his tenure in Denver.

        • BearDown100393

          LOL, uh yes I am aware of the history….

          • AlbertInTucson

            Kinda figured but had to be sure.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          So what ? People evolve.
          Is he a great coach ? Yes he is. That’s all that matters.

        • BerwynBomber

          “McDaniels shipped Jay, Marshall and a good tight end out of town during his tenure in Denver.”

          In retrospect, that is looking like a smarter decision by the day.

          • He also drafted Tebus.

          • johnnywad

            Didn’t he also give up a shitload of picks to trade up to get him?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            You could use that and not give personnel power to him. Which is great, because you want Emery doing that and him focusing on the player side of things.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Retrospect or 20-20 hindsight (?) because nobody thought that in 2011 when Jay had 7 picks in 10 games, the Bears were 7-3 and regarded as the hottest team in the NFL at the time but a busted thumb resulted in a busted season.

          • TheBigCheesy

            Again, the packers were the hottest team in the nfl. They were 10-0

        • Viva

          And drafted Tebow in the first round…

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        1. I don’t give a fuck what Jay loves.
        2. That tension could produce results…like it happens with the Steelers O. We already tried the friendly loving uncle version with Trestman. How that worked out ?

    • AlbertInTucson

      Kubiak? McDaniels? That would be Wrong and Wronger.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Yeah… the first one was sending Matt Schaub to the probowl and getting 1000+ yards from undrafted rookie RBs a couple years ago and the other one is working for years now for Belichick and with Brady.

        I don’t understand why they are the wrong options.

        • AlbertInTucson

          That you don’t understand is not at all surprising.

          • Trac

            Your’e about to be fired upon by a Yugo with a disco ball hanging from the rear view mirror, outfitted with rocket launchers. Hee hee.

          • AlbertInTucson

            You just may have invited a salvo at yourself, Trac.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I look at their work, not at the rumor mill. I like how they coach american football.

        • Can you name any of Einstein’s assistants?
          Bill is the brains behind that entire organization. He may very well be the modern Halas.
          Every single assistant of Bill’s who has gone beyond his radiance has crashed and burned, including McDaniels.

          Now, is it possible McDaniels learned from that? Possibly. But other choices are just as valid, or moreso.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            Pretty sure No Belichick assistants has ever been successful HCs. McDaniels is wrong because he drafted TIM TEBOW!!! and he traded up to get him. then said “He has all the traits you look for. It’s a good pick.”

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            The Huston HC seems pretty good to me.
            Tell me one good McCarty tree HC. Or Dungy.

            PS: Crennel, Mangini and McDaniels are the only 3 that become HC. They had Chiefs, Browns, Jets and Denver. Leaving aside McDaniels with Denver it’s not a huge surprise they failed.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            HINT: right now Chicago is in no better shape than Chiefs, Browns, Jets, and Denver were at the time of there signings of HC, hell the Bears are probably in worse condition.

            As far as good coaches from the McCarthy tree – only 1 of his assistants became a HC so far – Joe Philbin in Miami.

            You are seriously going to question the Dungy tree???
            Lovie, Tomlin, Caldwell, Herm Edwards(not successful but fun to watch),

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Harbaugh excluded… they aren’t moreso. They’re either washed up or rookies.

    • TheBigCheesy

      Lol barb

  • BillW

    Somewhat lost in all this was kromer upset that Jay didn’t check out of run plays.

    He thinks they should run even LESS?

    new theory. Kromer saw he was going to take the fall for the offense and got fed up and talked.

    Many on the blog tried to advance the notion it is Kromer to blame. Maybe it really is. And maybe he’s been set up behind the scenes to take the fall.

    • BearDown100393

      Or perhaps a rat will always be a rat?

    • Yes, but Trestman has implied the opposite, that they did call run plays on a certain drive, but Jay checked out of those to pass plays. Trestman only voiced this once in a press conference, but I doubt that was the only time Jay did so in drives. Just the rare time Trestman aired

      So either way, Jay is checking into BOTH bad run AND pass plays.

      I don’t solely blame Jay for the offense, but this is becoming much more like the Washington situation where the coaches seem fed up with RG3, but the higher ups are too pot committed to dump him.

      However, Cutler was already going to get benched in that Bucs game (and maybe he knew it, and decided to actually perform in the 2nd half), so we might be closer to Cutler getting benched than we imagine (for better or worse).

      I imagine if such a scenario happens, the Bears will use some PR excuse like “we’re saving Jay for next season”. Though what happens if Clausen then comes in and lights it up? No one thought McCown would, afte rall.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      I don’t understand why kromer was upset either. I honestly don’t recall any team that has ever been worried about our run game mainly since we run so little. Numerous defensive players on other teams have stated they were not worried about the run game and would sit back and wait till Cutler made a mistake. I honestly don’t know how often teams put 8 in the box against the run against us, but i don’t think it has been very often.

  • Trac

    Don’t know if you guys have given any thought to the fact that the Bears may have lost the players in the locker room the year Lovie got canned. The players knew Lovie was on the Bubble and rallied to produce 10 wins and almost won the division. If I was on that roster, that would have been a gut punch. Emery created that situation, not Trestman.

    • BillW

      If I remember they didn’t rally. They actually lost several games at the last part of the season

      • BillW

        I guess we are both right. Lost 5 of 6 before winning last 2

      • Scharfinator

        This was kind of a Lovie trait. Good first half the season and then it all crumbled. I imagine it was due to his inability to adapt to situations, seen in the second half of games and probably the second half of the season.

  • Viva

    I think Josh McDaniels’ tenure in Denver can best be described in one word: sabotage. That is what his decisions did to the Bronco organization.

    • Trac

      It was pure D arrogance.

    • AlbertInTucson

      “Don’t these folks know I’m a Genius?”

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      They traded Cutler and Marshall and got with those picks Orton, Robert Ayers, Orlando Franklin, Tim Tebow and Richard Quinn a TE bust.
      Their own picks in those 2 drafts were: round Knowshon Moreno, Demaryius Thomas, Zane Beadles

      It seems like a good plan to me… restock the Offense and get a solid system friendly QB and draft a young QB to grow behind him.

      These are the 2009 and 2010 Drafts QB classes:

      http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/positions/_/year/2009/quarterbacks
      http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/positions/_/year/2010/quarterbacks

      Now I know Tebow is a bum… but show me any other QB worth picking in those 2 drafts. If any he’s the only one that has a playoff win. And he was the 25 pick in the draft. You can now go trough these guys like butter. The cap hit if you cut them is minimal.

      Again… I think you have to set aside the actual player values and look at the plan. I think you have to judge the plan. But you could analyze the value of the players also… bringing in Kyle Orton, Robert Ayers, Orlando Franklin, Knowshon Moreno, Demaryius Thomas, Zane Beadles isn’t sabotage by any means. Manning used those weapons pretty good.

      And they all got great money this offseason 5 years later… Ayers from the Giants, Moreno from Miami, Beadles from the Jags, Orton from the Bills. They are all starters this season.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Blogfather tweet: (Joe Buck’s voice on golf. No. No. It doesn’t work.)

    Joe Buck. I will always maintain that he rose thru the ranks WAY quicker than he might otherwise have (like the even less talented Thom Brenneman and Chip Caray) because of who his Dad was. Frankly, I think JACK Buck is highly overated as well, especially what has become his signature call, the overblown “I don’t believe what I just saw” call on the Krik Gibson WS Homer. As usual, Vin Scully nailed that with “It. Is. GONE!” followed by silence to let the no-words-needed-here scene play out. Jack Buck is another play-by-play (Sorry, Harry Caray fans but I include Harry too) man who “stayed too long at the fair”. His last 2 seasons with Hank Stram doing MNF on radio were almost unintelligible listens.

    • BerwynBomber

      Agreed about Jack Buck, though I will admit by the time I heard him he was up there in his retirement home years. Btw, didn’t he actually blow the Gibson homer call by saying the Tigers (or Detroit) win the game when Gibson was rounding second?

      I actually like Joe calling football and baseball (though I don’t think Fox should, otherwise, go anywhere near baseball as their coverage sucks). The golf thing? Who knows. I only watch the majors so I guess I’ll check out their coverage next summer during US Open time.

    • As an L.A. resident, I’ve been blessed with Vin Scully calling Dodger games growing up (when I was into baseball). He is the best ever in my book, though Chick Hearn for the Lakers was pretty entertaining too. He was a bit more like Harry Carey, more of a personality, but a good one.

      • BerwynBomber

        But wasn’t Chick Hearn ten times better than Harry Carey? Chick was actually a masterful play-by-play guy (at least the few times I ever heard him). Carey was a mascot.

        • Well, in Carey’s defense, he was blasted most of the time. Though yeah, as a play by play, Hearns was excellent and wasn’t afraid to call out even Pat Riley if the games were going bad.
          I actually just worked with someone who said Carey gave him beer at Comisky Park when he was little. He was only like 12 and Carey was passing him beers!

          I’m sure there’s lots of those stories, but that was pretty funny.

          • AlbertInTucson

            We were in the Centerfield bleachers at Comiskey when Harry did his first broadcast from there. I still have the cowbell that he autographed the strap for. “It might be…it could be…it IS!” over 40 years ago,boys and girls. “Holy Cow!”

          • johnnywad

            That’s pretty cool Al. Is it just me, or are moments like those becoming extinct?

          • AlbertInTucson

            Well, for ME they are.

        • AlbertInTucson

          The booze made Harry pretty much unlistenable for radio YEARS before the stroke.

      • huntinbare

        Lloyd Pettit could call a game …he coined this phrase….shot….AND A GOAL!

        • AlbertInTucson

          Lloyd was terrific. WGN refused to let him do the games nationally and the job went to St.louis’ Dan Kelly. He left the WGN fold when his contract expired which is why he wound up only doing the hawks on thier “last two periods only” BS radio coverage onold WMAQ. He’s the only Hockey play-by-play man I ever heard NOT use “HE SCORES” to call goals.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Never was a Dodger fan but before the D’Backs were born, Tucson carried Dodger games on local radio and I’d listen just because Vin Scully was doing the games. Also got a good taste of him back in Oak Park because he did Game Of The Week and World Series calls back then. Vin goes on the Mt. Rushmore of Play-By-Play. He is the measuring stick for all others.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      i have always loved Jack Buck, grew up listening to him do Cardinal games on the radio. I will admit he stayed around a little too long and should have retired. But growing up listening with my Dad or on occasions my Grandpa, are some of my best memories.

  • Trac
    • Never Fales!
      Maybe they all know they’re getting fired, so one big last FU to Cutty? lol

      More intriguing part of that report was that they moved Sharpton to injured reserve. Fuck. Wanted to see if he had anything before wasting our time on him next offseason.

    • BerwynBomber

      I called this a week or two ago. Might wanna give the kid some snaps just to see if he is worth carrying a clipboard next year.

  • bojo1944

    I FEEL THAT UNTIL THIS LATEST FIASCO, TUCKER AND POSSIBLY THE SPECIAL TEAMS COACH, WERE THE ONLY FIRINGS! IF,EMEREY IS ALLOWED TO REMAIN AS GM, HE WILL HAVE TO FIX THIS MESS,WHICH MEANS DUMPING THE COACHING STAFF! HE ALREADY IS UNDER FIRE FOR THE LUDICROUS CUTLER CONTRACT,SO HE IS ON ROCKY GROUND!

    • GPLDAN

      AWESOME!

    • Scharfinator

      THIS IS A STATEMENT IN A BLOG. ME LOVE BEARS. ME TYPE CAPS CAPS. LISTEN ME!

  • Cormonster

    Pink Floyd fans might like this cover of Time. Pretty bad ass.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyFfm0KvGHg

    • I’ll check it out. You on Gordon watch?
      I’m pulling for him. If he gets it, it might help him in the draft. Mariotta’s going top 5 either way.

      As long as he doesn’t end up on the Vikings! (they might as a sorta symbolic gesture once they flush AP)

      • Cormonster

        Every report I’ve read said Mariotta is a lock to win the Heisman. Ohio State held Gordon to 71 yards rushing in a 59-0 blowout last week, which pretty much stopped any chances for Gordon of winning.

        I DO NOT want Gordon in the North. I think he’s going to be a great pro. Earlier I said he might be the best back since AP. Hell, that might be Le’Veon Bell, the way he is playing this year. Bell was great in college at Michigan State, but I never thought he would be this good in the pros.

        The video I posted is from a Gov’t Mule tribute show on Halloween 2008. The second set was 1.5 hours of Floyd music. The backup singers actually toured with Floyd in the past.

        • BerwynBomber

          Yep, Mariotta will win in a landslide after the Big Ten championship game.

          Good point about Bell. He is an absolute beast this year. I assume he will be rewarded with the highest honor for individual play outside of MVP, which is being named first-team All-Pro.

        • Bell lost like 15-20 pounds.
          I heard an analyst say that Bell’s probable last year (he only avg like 3.3 yds/carry) was that he ran like a small back in a big back’s body.
          So, he remedied it.
          He became a small back running like a small back. (though he’s really not all that small)
          It’s done wonders for him.
          I’m hoping Carey does something along those lines next offseason.

    • huntinbare

      Hears that on XM deep tracks the other day…Warren has a great band for the Pink experience…”all you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be”; said the flying pig.

      • Cormonster

        Mule had a great Floyd set list that night.
        1. One of the Days 2. Fearless 3.Pigs on a Wing part 2 4.Shine on you Crazy Diamond pts. 1-5 5.Have a Cigar 6. Speak to Me 7. Breathe 8.On the Run 9. Time 10. Great Gig in the Sky 11.Money 12. Comfortably Numb 13.Shine on you Crazy Diamond 6-9
        14. Wish you Were Here

        Huntin, if your a Warren fan, you might want to check out this internet show on Sunday mornings.

        http://deepjams.net/the-house-of-haynes-with-rich-granaas/

        • huntinbare

          Cool ..will do thanks for the tip…on sunday a.m.’s I am usually at BB Kings Bluesville listening to ” back porch ” acoustic blues…
          But, maybe I need to put a little “Mule Kick” into the morning….probably get more chores done throughout the afternoon…the blues pace only allows the lower slower gears…

          • BearDown100393

            Gov’t Mule is releasing a P.F. cover LP next week.

          • huntinbare

            I already told Santa about that along with The Band and Dylan’s collaborations…He better deliver….he also was asked to “fix the Bears” but that’s when he shoved me off his knee and began kicking me with his leathe Lombardi’s

          • Cormonster

            I seen a phenomenal Mule show for Halloween this year in Madison. They just tore it up in the first set. Just that set alone puts it in my top 5 Mule shows. The second set was 2 hours of Neil Young songs with Jackie Greene on guitar, banjo, vocals, and harmonica.

            Mule is touring with John Scofield starting early next year. Got tickets for a show in late February. Can’t wait.

          • BearDown100393

            Roger will reunite with P.F. before the Bears are fixed.

  • huntinbare

    Watching the Cubs re-tooling is a model for any pro franchise if you go the “blow the whole thing up” route.. First..the owner has to be succesful at creating success.. Rickets was that in the business world; so coming in he knew how accomplished/polished front office personel should should operate; and the qualities to look for in them to match the problems to be faced. Hence

    • BerwynBomber

      Cubs have a singular advantage that is unique in sports — and beyond patient fan base that cares more about the ballpark than the team and is willing to wait ten years for a GM’s plan to come to fruition while continuing to enrich the owner’s coffers.

      Most teams can’t go that route. They would be eviscerated on many levels.

      • huntinbare

        I been a follower since the late ’50’s and they never have had such a calculated aporoach. The leadership has the chops…not so sure about the football group…they seem to be holding their cards too close and they can’t see their face value. Epstein and Hoyer spelled this process out and everyone has been able to see their cards. The fiotball group seems like the CIA …They do not wan’t anyone to know how they are getting things done…and the results speak for themselves.

        • BerwynBomber

          You missed my point. The Bears can’t say “hey everyone, we’re gonna suck the next six years because we have a boy genius who will eventually deliver us world championships, so keep coming to Wrigley, have fun, get drunk and check out the chicks.”

          The Bears would be scorched if they asked that of the fans. Or at the least laughed at. Hence, the Cubs comparison doesn’t hold water. It’s an ideal situation for a GM. The vast majority of sports franchises, including the Bears, are not run in such ideal circumstances.

          • huntinbare

            I know what you are getting at; but the intelligent fan will be willing to give up the losing years if they can see that in 4-6 years we will become relevant for a decade. Think Yankees Canadians Celtics. All this started with current Cub ownership that knew how to create success and brought these qualities and plan into the arena of professional sports..they departed from the same old model that had been tried for decades. George Halas was such a man…but this franchise has lost it’s way…The offspring of genius inherited wealth but they did not get the genius of how to create and sustain the signature attitude. The Wrigleys could sell gum but they failed mostly at putting smart baseball people in charge; same with the Tribune. If the Bears ownership would have gotten the proper people into the front office this franchise would not have fallen so far since the 90’s. Ricketts brought in proven genius and I am sure that is where his genius lies. The Halas family has yet to get this right and that is why we are just average year in and year out. Get a football mind in the presidency and open up the checkbook or just keep swinging and missing like pretenders paying overpriced used talent to fix the oroblems.

          • it’s been hilarious to see some of the Cubs fans the last 2-3 years, especially on ESPN, which doesn’t exactly attract the most intelligent fans.

            So many people bashing the losing and failing to see what was going on in the minors. Now all of a sudden the corner is turned and those same people swear they always knew it would work and the Cubs will win a WS in the next year or two.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            I got a lot of friends/family that are Cubs fans, so i get to hear about the moves they have been making and the process Epstein has put in place. It is been fun taunting them over the years as a Cardinal fan, but i am actually looking forward to the stage that the Cubs and Cards are an actual rivalry. I am excited that there could finally be a Red Sox/Yankees type rivalry in the playoffs between the 2 teams.

          • huntinbare

            I would say that I do not know how to create the winning formula in any sport; but he brought in the people who did this before and as a logtime sufferer the plan looked different than anything before. That is what helped eliminate the doubt that some felt and they kept trotting out the same old B.S. lines and sentiment…This is the nature of our love for our teams; it strangles up our thinking and I hate to say it but I have fallen into many a foolish trap …only to get back on the bandwagon redfaced as I take my seat quite sheepishly and resume the ride.

    • baseball is different than football though. In the context of a rebuild, this is specifically because of the minor leagues. You can deliberately lose at the top level, trade your veterans away, and still put your stud youngsters in position to develop and learn how to win in the minors. Can’t do that in the NFL.

      A hockey team could follow that model. A football or basketball team can’t really, because their draft picks show up and play in the big leagues right away.

      • huntinbare

        That is true the contexts are different; but Ricketts understood the baseball context and by disecting it he re tooled each disected part with excellence; putting each segment in order with the best possible component available at that time. The team used to buy/hire a segment here or a segment there; and then expect the rest of the components to somehow improve because of that one ” golden” acquisition. He disected his understanding of the baseball process and found that it all starts with a belief going back to the begining and then getting each stage of development corrected by knowing what to “get right” before moving on to the next phase.
        I think that the football process when examined has different dynamics; but we (the bears) do not have an ownership that can divest itself from it’s clouded/egotistical/crony thinking. They have the wrong person running the operation and we are subject to a leadership that cannot get out of it’s own way. We do not have people at the top who know the game as it is played today in position to succeed. Therefore the disjointed group dynamic throughout. I think one guy is an accountant…one guy is a family member of a the creationist…other folks with limited succesful moments in their carreers that are making key decisions. None of them fully aware of being the championship creators with past chamoionship pedigrees.

  • huntinbare

    Watching the effort on the field this year is becoming a bit more comprehendible based on the revelations of the past week.
    For me this team has taught a great course in the “degrees of futility”….I had no idea futility had so many levels and could be so deep. I just want to caution everyone not to surface too quickly…from this depth we are in danger of a case of the bends….

  • Trac

    Warning!!! When Christmas shopping, never buy clothes for a wife or daughter. Not even a sweater.

    • Scott W.

      Wow. You are just now plugging into that? Thought you were a seasoned vet, Trac.

      • Trac

        Just a friendly warning to the boys Scott. Tis the season.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I have been married approaching 34 years now and I can truthfully say that I have never, repeat NEVER, gifted my lovely bride an article of clothing that she didn’t specifically drop an obvious hint for. Same goes for purses.

      “Santa” HAS never put any household appliances under the tree for her, either.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Blogfather Tweet: “Pause the Mariota NFL love for a second. Let him enjoy the Heisman. He has four months to be scrutinized (and he will be).”

    Not to take anything away from him as a great college player but I’m not sold on his transition to the NFL with so much of his success based on completions after he avoids a sack and the play breaks down or big gains as a runner.

    • Oregon’s offense is so QB friendly. So little of what he does there will be similar to what he does in the NFL.

      Doesn’t mean he won’t be able to do it in the NFL, just means it will be tough to evaluate him for an NFL offense.

      I’d love to see Chip Kelly somehow trade up to get him though.

      • NewBearInTown

        The Heisman is a historically bad indication of success for quarterbacks in the NFL. Jeff is right. Why bother talking about the kid’s NFL potential right now. Let him enjoy being convincingly voted the best player in college this year.

        • I still think it should have gone to Gordon. Mariota had a great year, but not indisputably the best QB year in the last 5-10 years.

          Gordon had a HISTORIC year. No other RB has done what he did in terms of the combination of volume and efficiency possibly ever.

          • NewBearInTown

            I agree. Unfortunately the state of football today is all about the QB. They almost need to create a new award for the best non-quarterback just to eliminate all the noise.

  • CanadaBear

    Up until this latest disaster, I thought it was just going to be Tucker and probably the Camel (even though he’s been saddled with the worst talent in the league). Now I think even Ted might be moved over to the biz side and everyone below him fired. These last 3 games could be fascinating in a train wreck kinda way.

  • NewBearInTown

    Quick chime in from California.
    Trestman – I understand the desire to give him a third year to get his act together. I have been very unimpressed with his willingness to acknowledge mistakes and make changes during the season. I am not confident that changes in the off-season. He may be a great head coach in the NFL someday, but for now he needs to go.
    Harbaugh – I can’t disagree with Jeff’s arguments in favor of this hire. But I worry that Emery will not coexist with him, and I like Emery as a GM (good drafting, good FA pickups, good cap management, good media presence). I also worry that Jay will not coexist with him either. If I’m wrong on both counts, he would be a stellar pickup.
    Rex Ryan – I really like Rex Ryan, but I worry Rex to Chicago will look like Lovie to Tampa Bay. He’ll build a good program, but there will be some serious growing pains as the team transitions. This is not a team looking to transition.
    Mike Shanahan – I know that Cutler liked him once upon a time, but this guy will poison this team. Plus I think the league has passed him by. Time for younger blood.
    Todd Bowles – If all of my above concerns about personalities are well founded, this is an awesome option. My biggest question mark here: who’s his offensive coordinator going to be?
    Darell Bevell – Has people calling Wilson elite even though they throw the fewest passes in the league. Cutler can extend plays just as well as Wilson and has a better arm. Forte meanwhile is not built to run the same offense as Lynch. Plus we aren’t big enough up front yet, though that is improving. Bevell plus a tackle and a RB in our top 3 draft picks could be the start of something good, but its hard to say. Plus, need to know who his defensive coordinator would be.
    David Shaw – Don’t know enough about him. Not against bringing in a college HC. Chip Kelly and Pete Caroll have obviously shown it can work. Just no clue if Shaw is really the next big thing.
    Other – A guy who really deserves a shot and hasn’t gotten one. Ray Horton. Possibly the best DC in the league right now and nobody talks about him. That defense that Bowles is doing so well with? Built by Ray Horton. The Browns are similarly indebted to his for his efforts. Not doing great in Tennessee this year, but who would be? Bad team means no love for a job next year, but I’d interview him anyway. He’s that good.

    • Trac

      The Bears are formless and void. It’s gonna take more than a new head coach.

  • CanadaBear

    I’m not getting all the cries of I’ll never watch the Bears again, or I’m giving up on the Bears, etc. Really? Yeah this team sucks and is tremendously disappointing. Any Bears fan over the age of 40 has been down this road of disappointment and disfunction more than once. It’s not like this group is going to be around much longer. I get the feelings of we’re never going to get this right but that’s sports. Either you’re a fan for life or you’re not.

    • GPLDAN

      A fair cop.

      As the NFL Network moves to a streaming pay-to-watch model, we’ll see if that holds. For now, it’s on free tv.

      • CanadaBear

        I totally understand if people won’t pay to watch it. I’m over that now but years ago I swore I’d never pay. The NFL is a license to print money. Until the climate changes a lot, I just can’t see them walking away from the current model.

      • BerwynBomber

        That is largely what killed boxing. Sure, they were a myriad of problems with the sweet science, but once they went to the “every title fight will be PPV or at least on premium cable like Showtime” model is when the sport headed south.

    • BillW

      Somehow this year is worse. I can’t articulate it well. I’m just exasperated in ways I never was before. Maybe because they went from a bad situation and it looked like it would improve but it’s clearly worse. I love the legacy of the Bears. This regime is an insult to that legacy.

      I want to care but I can’t support this organization any more

      • Old broken romanian Jericho

        Bill sell me your season tickets!

        • BillW

          As I said a day or two ago the family is going to decide after we see what team decisions are made. Likely we will keep the psls in large part because their value probably has dropped significantly. The tickets themselves may all end up on the exchange.

          If they fire trestman we will likely keep them unless they hire Kromer or Tucker.

          If they hire Toub we will start making our super bowl plans! . (You’re welcome, Viva!)

  • BerwynBomber
    • CanadaBear

      Personally I like the way the playoffs are set up. No need to expand them but it’s been coming for a few years. Oh well. It’s not like it would hurt the game. Just lead to a few playoff games that are complete blowouts.

      • BerwynBomber

        Largely agree. I’m okay with the expansion so long as it does not lead to a drawn out schedule/extra weekend. Hence, if Wildcard Weekend becomes six games rather than the existing four, I’m all in.

        • CanadaBear

          Good call. Pretty sure that’s their intention.

  • BerwynBomber

    This franchise has been built around Jay Cutler. That was PE’s grand vision when he succeeded Angleo. Unless you are going to blow that up now via roster moves — and I don’t see how you do it — then the two best choices are probably Shanahan who loves Cutty or Rex Ryan who will presumably focus on the historically bad D.

    I don’t see Harbaugh being a good fit for this team. Even setting aside his strong CA roots, he works best with young, talented teams. My sense is Harbaugh would lead to a ton of friction, both with players and management and more in a frustrated than productive way. If we were two years down the road, and the Cutler Era was over, then Harbaugh would be ideal. But with this bunch? I don’t see it.

    • Viva

      Well said BB.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      The Bears aren’t an old, not talented bunch. Plus how could you say Harbaugh is a good or bad fit based on his history ? He only coached one NFL team.

      PS: Phil Emery didn’t have the ‘grand vision of building the franchise around Jay Cutler’. What does that mean anyway ?

      • BerwynBomber

        Of course PE did. Even the last year of Lovie, PE began heading in that direction. What do you think PE’s vision was? To build the team around the D? He went out and got Jay’s bestie in BM. A Pro Bowl-talented TE in Black Uni. Drafted a huge WR in Jeffrey. Rebuilt the O line via draft picks and FA.

        In terms of Harbaugh, he also coached two college teams. I believe he would feel frustrated and hamstrung by this roster (and potentially by PE), which is why I think he will pass on the gig if other viable options are open to him.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          So the GM that wants to build a solid OL and acquire weapons at the skill positions has a ‘grand vision’ ? I think that basic stuff.

          I don’t know shit about college teams, but doesn’t that mean those players are young ? What college has old, not talented players ? Maybe Weeden’s college.

          • BerwynBomber

            It was more than the OL, Barb. No reason for the selective ignorance except for a weak counter-argument.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Saying that a GM who wants an NFL type Offense has a ‘grand vision’ is not even an argument. How can I give a counter-argument to such a naive statement ?

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            Emery brought in the first bonified #1 WR and got him for 2 third round picks.
            Emery brought in veteran Guard in Slauson on a one year deal for a Million.
            Emery brought in a veteran Guard/Tackle in Britton on a one year deal for less.
            Emery brought in a rookie 1st round pick in Long.
            Emery brought in a 5th round pick in Mills.
            Emery held onto Garza.
            Emery signed an established veteran Left Tackle in Bushrod.
            Emery signed a 2nd round WR in Jeffery.
            Emery signed a talented and well priced TE in Bennett.

            He did these things because the entire salary of the O fucking Line until that point was exceeded by Briggs and Urlacher ALONE!!!!!!!!! He replaced dogshit and sub par talent with rookies and vets on minimum deals.
            He replaced KELLEN DAVIS with a weapon in Bennett that could be an inline blocker and stretch the field. Hadn’t had that since Des Clark. Got rid of Olsen because brass was a bunch of fucking morons.
            He signed Morgan for a song to replace Earl. He signed a 7th round pick in Wilson because he had 2nd round skill but quit his fucking college team.

            He made moves to make the Bears offense competitive with the rest of the teams in the league. By no means were the signing of Slauson, Long, Mills, Britton, Jeffery, Bennett and Morgan done in a way that would stop the Bears from acquiring D talent. They just didn’t think the entire fucking D would melt down in less than a year after Emery took over.

            Nothing crazy or out of the ordinary was done here. It was just a team rebuilding and upgrading positions that had been neglected or mismanaged for year after year.

          • BerwynBomber

            Ah, there you are. How are you today, Kristin?

    • BillW

      Of course that was emerys vision. Everything points to that. Defense and specials were relegated to afterthoughts. He wasn’t try to just improve the offense. He was trying to make it a top 5 offense.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        That’s pure insanity !!! He had to rebuild the entire team. Tried to go with another year of Lovie D while rebuilding the O.

        Everything starts with the decision to force Emery into keeping Lovie for another year. He then had to delay the rebuild on either side of the team.
        And so he lost the last year of good/great Defense.

        • BillW

          I respectfully disagree with you but do admit forcing lovie on Phil was counter productive at best

    • BearDown100393

      Just name Cutler the head coach and offensive coordinator. Gandhi wouldn’t be able to coach him up.

  • Viva

    Jeff,

    Please send out a Dave Toub for HC tweet for me.

    Thank you in advance for your prompt compliance,

    Viva

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    I keep hearing this nonsense notion Emery should have franchised Jay Cutler. That’s stupid and ignorant. No respecting GM would do that. You lose control when you go that route and you aren’t a GM if you don’t have options.

    So, what it means is that if Emery gave him a contract that doesn’t mean he was in love with Cutler. It was the smart move, period.

    PS: The only risk Emery took on Cutler was on the health side. Is he an injury prone player and can you sign him to a long term deal ? That’s it… it’s not the money or the length.

    • BerwynBomber

      It is NEVER smart to give an average player a max contract. Not in any sport. Not for any position.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        There isn’t such a thing as a MAX CONTRACT in the NFL.
        Plus, we aren’t talking about a player, we’re talking about QBs. And Cutler in particular. Let’s keep focus on the subject.

        • BerwynBomber

          Cutty’s the highest-paid player in the league this year. Over the next two, he will be up in the highest paid bracket. $20M per pretty much goes as a max contract but I get your point that, technically, there are no max contracts for veterans.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Who gives a fuck ? You can always trade or even cut him.
            What changes if you franchise him 1 year ago ?

          • BerwynBomber

            You don’t get stuck with the back-end of the contract?

  • GPLDAN

    Conte too injured to go Monday.

    Contain thy shock

  • BillW

    In response to trac yesterday

    Warning: whatever you buy your wife for Christmas she will have wanted something else. Even if she said she wanted what you got her. . “You should know me enough to know what I REALLY want. I shouldn’t have to tell you”

    • jewelry. You can never go wrong with something nice and shiny, as long as it doesn’t look cheap, isn’t something she already has, and is of the general style she likes.

      • BillW

        I have been married nearly 40 years. . Even jewelry is a shaky proposition. When I opt for that on special anniversary dates like next year, I take a friend or two of hers along. Then I can blame them

  • BillW

    Jeffs tweet on Rodgers overblown td int stat due to never attempting a difficult throw.

    Why should he? Maybe that’s the “secret”? Scan all options, quickly determine which has the best reward to risk ratio (sort of a Sharpe Ratio for qbs) , make the throw., continue down the field.

    Makes sense to me.

    • He plays like Alex Smith in that he never forces passes. Except he’s willing to throw the ball more than 2-3 yards down the field, which combines the best parts of Peyton Manning and Alex Smith.

    • BerwynBomber

      That tweet made no sense but Blogfather often tries to belittle Rodgers’ stats. Before our tilts with the Cheese, he was pimping Cutty’s stats in comparison. Insane.

      All that said, Rodgers looks awful today. Credit Bills D, though. They’re a monster at home. They might very well win today if Orton generates anything.

      • Rodgers was not himself the last 2 games last year (CHI and then SF in playoffs) and first 3 games this year.

        He looked scared of getting hit after the shoulder injury. Snapped out of it against Chicago and has been on fire ever since (until today).

        Funny what a good DL does… in that 5 game span, he played SF, at SEA, and at DET. Now at BUF. On the road against a top pass rush is a nightmare for a QB.

        • BerwynBomber

          He played well in that post-season game against SF. I just sensed SF was the better overall team and their talent eventually won out (Plus, the Cheese have always made Kap look like an HoFer.) But yeah, Rodgers looked edgy against us until that final, killer drive. Conte even got an RZ pick off him.

          Agree about BUF. They’ve got him completely out of sorts.

        • BlameAngelo

          Buffalo completely shut down Manning and Rodgers, arguably the two best QBs in the game. Can we just build that DL and start down the road to being Monsters already?

  • RenoBear

    Boy you throw a little defense at Rodgers and he looks very skittish back there in the pocket. Gets pretty pissy about it too…Love it!

  • GPLDAN

    Oh Johnny Foooooooootball….

    • Trac

      I did see one play where he was Tarkentonesc in avoiding a sack but then threw an interception.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    73 consecutive(?) games won by the Patriots when leading at the half.

    Fuck me !!!

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      thought you would be happy about that????

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Of course I am. And so is my brother who’s a Pats fan.
        But that’s beside the point. That stat is awesome.

    • BlameAngelo

      GB have never won a game in Buffalo, there’s another one.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    How stupid are the Browns ? Setting aside the fact Manziel is a loser, did you really have to get him in against the Bengals Defense ? Those dudes eat bad QBs like it’s free candy.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Remind me again… why not McDaniels as the OC/HC ? I look at his Offense and ‘I like’.

  • BerwynBomber

    Horrible decision by Rodgers. First INT in 203 attempts. Nelson was wide open deep.

    • Old broken romanian Jericho

      3other picks dropped today as well. Rough day. Luckily the Bills offense is fucking disgusting. Rodgers will gt the win no matter what.

      • BerwynBomber

        I think the Bills might pull this out. All kinds of horrible going on with the Cheese’s O — not only Rodgers but killer drops by their receivers too. Would be weird if Seattle ends up with home field throughout the playoffs after what their season looked like four or five games ago.

        • Old broken romanian Jericho

          The beauty of football

          • BerwynBomber

            Yep. Everyone can look mortal and shitty at times. Even fucking Rodgers.

  • Old broken romanian Jericho

    Did the refs have the audacity to call a hold on Kuhn on that play?

  • Shady

    Suck it Packers.

  • BerwynBomber

    Kinda why the Cheese won’t win an SB this year. They can’t grind out wins when having an off day. Teams like Seattle, NE and Denver can do that. Cheese can’t.

    • the book to beat GB hasn’t changed. Pound their defense with a physical running game.

      In order for that to work, you have to limit their offense and keep it close, which means you need a DL that can dominate their OL (which just got easier if Bulaga is out for a while).

  • Old broken romanian Jericho

    Nfl media in a nutshell.

    After the fucking debacle that was the Packes offense today including 4 for 16 on third down and at least 3 dropped INTs by Rodgers, a safety and the inability of the Bills to tackle the packers once in bounds insides 5 minutes, Bradshaw points to Jordy Nelson’s drop earlier in the 4th quarter as the reason they lost.

    Go fuck yourself Terry

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Relax, man. R-E-L-A-X.

    • Trac

      Yeah Johnny, I’d take the Buffalo’s D any day. hahaha

  • Trac

    LE’-VE-0N B’-ELL! This dude has kept Pittsburgh rolling this year.

  • I think I’ve figured out the worst part of this season:

    The first 2 series of the Bears’ season.

    Think about it. We’re playing the Bills, a team we thought we’d stomp when the game began. There are questions about our defense, and overflowing confidence in our offense.

    We kick off to start and force a 3-and-out. So far so good, defense, as 3-and-outs were few and far between last year. The Bills punt and we start our drive on our own 35. Not really a “short field,” but good field position.

    Forte runs for 2.
    Cutler to Marshall for 8 and the first down.
    Cutler to Alshon for 44. 1st and 10 at the 12.
    Next play? Cutler to Bennett for 12 yards and the touchdown.

    4 plays for 66 yards, which every playmaker touching the ball. Certainly, we all thought (and pardon me for speaking for you, but come on), this was just an appetizer for the delicious feast that 2014 was sure to be.

    Well. We all know how the story played out.

    Maybe if they’d gone 3-and-out, or Jay threw a pick-6 on his first pass, we would have been more prepared for this sh*t show. But they got us on the bate-and-switch. They promised the stars but delivered the leaky air conditioner hanging out of the 2nd story window.

    Blech.

    • BillW

      I agree. Expectations fulfilled or so we thought. Then dashed soundly. We kept looking for the feeling of the first two series all year

    • BearDown100393

      There are many “worst” parts to the season. Briggs showing up to camp disinterested and out of shape. Urlacher still bitter. Bennett getting suspended after body slamming Fuller in camp. Marshall prattling nonsensical bravado about Cutler winning the MVP. The team itself insinuating a Super Bowl appearance. Long bitching about booing fans. Lamar Houston throwing down a backup quarterback in garbage time and tearing his ACL with a celebratory dance. Conte getting hurt every game. Mega punt not proving it on the field or on the stat sheet. Briggs opening a rib joint and skipping practice. Trestman claiming ignorance to Briggs’ reason for leaving (but granting permission anyway). Marshall engaging in a Twitter beef with a Lions fan. Cutler leading the NFL in turnovers. Alshon getting injured. Marshall collapsing a lung and breaking his ribs. Robbie missing routine (for him) FGs. Jay Feely in a Bears uniform. Special teams reeking in the 1st half. Fuller getting banged up. Trestman talking about practice. Peanut getting shelled and going on IR. Losing an entire LB corps to injury. The locker room complaining about the “negative media” after losing to Buffalo. Marshall and Gould getting into a hubbub. “The Lance Briggs Show”. “The Jay Cutler Show”. And Jay skipping his own “The Jay Cutler Show”. Marshall on “Inside the NFL”. Briggs spooning with Lovie during an injury timeout. 106 points given up by the defense against Green Bay and New England. Smokin’ Aaron Rodgers at the Bears sideline. Being swept by Green Bay. Soldier Field booing at half-time. Losing to Detroit on Thanksgiving and looking horrible in the process. People actually excited to watch Marquess Wilson. Forte being limited on carries per game. Dump offs. The kneel down. Fans actually believing (and wanting) Terrell Owens had been signed. Tucker getting a vote of confidence. Doug and OB being the best form of entertainment in the season. Jared Allen losing 100 lb after a respiratory illness. “Buyer’s Remorse”. A bromance dying. The disappearance act of Emery, Phillips and McCaskey. Ian Rapoport turning into Woodward and/or Bernstein. Kromer busted out as Deep Throat. Crocodile tears and clemency begged to a head shaking #6. Trestman claiming to handle things internally. Bears players having Biggs’ # on speed dial. Tomorrow night’s game against New Orleans….

      • right. but if the bears gave up a TD and then went 3-and-out, we would’ve been ready for all of that. =]

      • Trac

        Thankfully the Bears are just a small part of my life experiences. They certainly have not made it a pleasurable one this year. Epic fail. For me, the only bright spot of the season was the niner victory.

        • Scott W.

          Bears are a big part of my life, and I’ve lost all hope. I have zero confidence in the coaches, the admin, and our high powered offense.
          But it disgusts and disappoints at a high level. So they’ve rented space in my head win or lose.
          It’s the slum part of my head. Rats, bedbugs, crack whores that are too indifferent to shoot up…

        • BearDown100393

          49ers officially eliminated from the playoffs.

      • BillW

        I hope you had to look some of that stuff up. I hope that whole litany didn’t flow without thinking

        Myself I’m finally finishing digitizing my family videos and putting them on our home network pc so they can be called up on our Roku like Netflix

        I’ll be doing this tomorrow night. Probably check the score every so often but not watching any more

        • BearDown100393

          I excel at banging on a keyboard without thinking 🙂

      • Scott W.

        Too good. Just too good.

  • wreckinball

    The cheese losing brings joy to my heart

  • wreckinball

    God is muscles an awful official

  • Cormonster

    The Lions – Packers game in two weeks should be exciting to watch. Winner takes the division. Packers have beat the Lions 23 straight at home, going back to the days when they still played 3 home games a year at County Stadium in Milwaukee. I hope the Lions take it to them and end the streak. Fuck Green Bay.

    • BillW

      It’s a lost season for us. So I agree. Love to see the Packers swept by SOMEBODY

      • Trac

        Meh! Both the Lions and Cheese will be poison to us until the Bears grow some testosterone.

        • BillW

          I hold out bizarre hope that if the kittens sweep the cheese the mccaskeys will wonder why the Bears can’t. And maybe figure out the reason

          “Ah but I may as while try and catch the wind. ”
          Donovan Leitch

          • Trac

            Yeah, it’s called “defense”.

  • Scharfinator

    Just watched the Cutler presser. Pretty impressed with it actually. Hopefully he also has a wake up call that he needs to fix his game.

    • Trac

      I’d love to see the Bears beat the Saints tomorrow.

      • Scharfinator

        12 TD’s, 0 Ints and an 80% completion rate to end the year. It’s time for him to transform!

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X25-E_wKaHQ

      • BillW

        I’ve sensed they have a break out game in them. Thought it would happen against the Lions and or Cowboys. This one sets up that way too.

        Note that doesn’t change anything and might even lead to solidifying trestmans position

        • Trac

          Don’t forgot, Marshall is out. Sorry I had to remind you.

          • BillW

            So cutty is forced to survey all receivers

          • You do realize the “Cutty locks in on Marshall” narrative is beyond stupid, right? Let’s look at total targets this year:

            Jeffery: 539 routes, 107 targets. 1 target every 5.0 routes
            Marshall: 512 routes, 101 targets. 1 target every 5.0 routes
            Bennett: 478 routes, 94 targets. 1 target every 5.1 routes
            Forte: 447 routes, 98 targets, 1 target every 4.6 routes

            The balance between those 4 has been incredible this year. Basically identical usage.

            Of course, the bigger problem. Everybody else combined: 710 routes, 56 targets, 1 target for every 12.7 routes. Why bother covering anybody outside of those 4?

            Another big problem: those 4 have combined for about 32 targets a game. That’s too much throwing. Factor in the Cutler scrambles, targets to other people, and sacks, and Bears are throwing almost 40x a game. TOO MUCH.

          • johnnywad

            Beat me to it

          • BlameAngelo

            Marshall played on a bum ankle for a lot of this season and Cutty knew it. If BM was good to go, he was the guy. Listing targets and saying the spread is even disguises the fact that Cutty never looks off the safeties or pumps. Cutty doesn’t lock in on ONLY Brandon, he locks in on the #1 WR on that play, doesn’t do his progressions either … it’s either #1 or straight to Matt.

          • BillW

            I think it was the cbs guy who showed several clips of Jay not seeing wide open receivers which indicates he may have an issue with locking on the first option

          • yes, Cutler has a problem with progressing through his reads. Especially when he doesn’t trust his protection, which is definitely the case this year.

            That still doesn’t mean he throws it to nobody but Marshall.

          • after Jeffery’s breakout game in week 4 of last year, he had 81 targets from Cutler to Marshall’s 84. That narrative has been dead since the Bears have had more than one competent WR.

          • BillW

            Well, if you’re going to get technical about it…

            Great analysis as always.

          • BerwynBomber

            Not really. Good research but the analysis is bit lacking. For one, it doesn’t take into account how often the Bears were trailing by a score or more. Guess what happens when that is frequently the case? Yep, you pass more.

          • BillW

            His analysis was on distribution, not frequency.

            However a banged up receiver squad (and not just BMarsh) may be the reason for that distribution.

            Still I found the “targets per route” stat fascinating and contrary to my preconceived notions. I actually like being proved wrong because I learn something along the way.

          • BerwynBomber

            “Of course, the bigger problem. Everybody else combined: 710 routes, 56 targets, 1 target for every 12.7 routes. Why bother covering anybody outside of those 4?”

            Heavy distribution confined to the top four targets is hardly specific to the Bears, especially when those four are Pro Bowl level talents. A third WR never really emerged but even if one had it would not have changed the #s much.

      • BlameAngelo

        Win meaningless games to worsen our draft picks ?

        • Trac

          To me, it’s a toss up. The struggle within!

  • Trac

    I never thought I’d see “this” Tony Romo. Gives us hope for Cutty.

    • BearDown100393

      Romo turnover helps cap an Eagles comeback after being down by 21.

  • beninnorcal

    Wtf happened to the Pack? Cheesy?

    • johnnywad

      He’s going to lay low for a few days like a little bitch. Well except for tomorrow night.

    • BillW

      Still set up to win division last game. Like last year. If I were a packer fan, well I’d have less than a full mouth of teeth. And I’d not be concerned

      • beninnorcal

        Losing to the Bills doesn’t look good, division or not.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, but they are in trouble. No home field throughout. No first weekend bye. Cheese might win one round but that will be it. Buffalo exposed them.

  • Shady

    Butch is in a fight for his FF life right now! He needs a solid 4th quarter from Sanchez to advance to the Championship to face my team: Multiple Scoregasmos.

    • I lost my fantasy matchup by 3 points. Went into SNF tied, I had Shady/PHI K and he had Murray.

      Murray got both DAL rushing TDs, while Shady had 3 of them poached. Just get 1/3 and I win.

      RRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEE

      • Shady

        Brutal. Well, at least you got the Bears to cheer you up tomorrow.

    • Sanchez went full Sanchez in that 4th quarter.

  • BerwynBomber

    Worst game of Rodgers’ career. Methinks the Cheese are in major trouble. A first round win might be their ceiling.

    Gutty win by Romo and Dallas tonight. Still don’t believe in them because of shaky defense but props for their performance tonight.

    Most annoying thing is Cincy winning. They’re gonna take the AFC North and then Dalton will fold like house of cards in the playoffs.

    • Cormonster

      Cincy still has to play Denver and at Pittsburgh. Not easy.

      • BerwynBomber

        Good point. That division might end up with three teams qualifying — the anti-NFC South.

        Still comes down to NE and Denver over in the AFC but with R-Berger and Flacco there’s a puncher’s chance. Maybe even Luck too.

  • BillW

    We score ONCE. But not cutlers fault. Without a doubt we are getting full value out of him. After all its not like we have other needs to use that money on.

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