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Dallas Cowboys at Chicago Bears Game Thread Featuring Three Final Thoughts

| December 4th, 2014

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Three Final Thoughts

(1) I was once, as a younger man, in New Orleans for Halloween with the great Lou Casillas and a reverend who used to spend some time around here. New Orleans for any night is the greatest party of your life but on Halloween its a special party. In my infinite wisdom I booked a flight back to New York early the next morning – the worst morning of my life. That was a Saturday. I returned to my friend Lou’s apartment and fell fast asleep, at 3 pm, in the same clothes I’d flown in. Sunday morning I awoke to the knowledge of the Bears playing the Detroit Lions, realized I’d need to be in a bar to watch it and thought, “Ugh.” That was the last time BEFORE THIS MORNING I felt that way the morning of a Bears game.

(2) Twice this season the Cowboys offensive line has been over-matched: against Jim Haslett’s all-in blitz assault of the Washington Redskins & entirely against the Philadelphia Eagles. But both teams were creative with their pressure packages, something Mel Tucker has not been accused of in 2014. If ever there was a night for the Bears to send Shea and Bostic at the quarterback half a dozen times each, this is it. (As for the rumors of Shea debuting at middle linebacker tonight…whatever. My issue with Shea is not that he can’t play. My issue is that he can’t stay healthy. So even if he thrives in the middle tonight, expect him on IR by midweek.)

(3) I’ve reached out to anyone and everyone regarding the future of Marc Trestman in Chicago and the consensus belief is he’s returning in 2015. Still I wonder if that remains true with a few more humiliating losses. My general belief is that a decision has already been reached on Trestman’s future and it will take something drastic to alter that. (Selfishly I find myself rooting for a change because it makes my job here at DBB so much more interest in the deep winter if there’s a coaching search.)

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  • Tom

    Break Romo’s back (Smash Dallas)?

    • GPLDAN

      You win!

      Don Pardo, tell him what he’s won!

      Why Monty, he’s won an all expenses paid vacation to Aruba with Marc Trestman! During this trip, Marc will give you PERSONAL coaching on how you can grow your manhood, manage the game clock of your life, and some inside tips on Bond valuation!

      P.S. Hey Jeff, nice use of the book depository. Because that’s what we go to when we think Dallas.

      • Bears-4-Ever

        I would have preferred a pic of the grassy knoll. Where the actual killer shot came from.

        • DaBearsBlog

          I toyed with the grassy knoll but it’s actually a shit image. And you’d have no idea where it is.

          I will accept smash Dallas. I was hoping for Shatter dallas.

      • Tom

        Just what I’ve always dreamed of

    • Peanut FTW

      Actually, the + for Back is added to the rowboat, so It would me Brake RowBack Mo’s, Shatter Dallas

  • Big Mike

    How can they want Trestman back? Everything about him says over matched. He has great offensive weapons and has produced very little this year. His play calling is ridiculous. His leadership and the culture he’s created is empty. Do you ever get the sense that there is a single Bears player who would rally around Trestman?

    • Bears-4-Ever

      It’s about contracts and money. I’m sure it’s cheaper to keep him around for one more season and give him the ultimatum.

      • GPLDAN

        And that’s sad. Firing him says “we made a mistake”, and the culture is such that it can’t do that.

        • Big Mike

          Not admitting a mistake, is more plausible than the financial scenario. If you don’t can him, you’ve basically wasted 2015.

      • Big Mike

        I don’t believe it’s about money. Doesn’t count against the cap. Even worse results next year if he is a lame duck. Coaches RARELY get to the last year of their contract without an extension. Even when they do, it is usually on the coaches terms.

  • BearDown100393

    I think everyone might be missing the big boat. Kromer/Forte/Cutler have conspired with Marc Trestman to throw Rod Marinelli/Dallas Cowboys defense off guard with all this “need to run the ball more” rhetoric. Jay hates handing off the football. Trestman hates call for handing off the football. He has multiple CFL playbooks loaded with bubble screens to unleash on the unsuspecting Cowboys. And it won’t work at all if Marinelli already anticipates the genius offensive scheme demonstrated this season. After watching multiple tapes of Bears practices, Trestman realized the problem was not being tricky enough with the media. So he planted Kromer/Forte/Cutler with this ridiculous continuous dialogue of running the football. Trestman don’t run. Trestman throws. He is a genius. Look out Marinelli, this will be winless Lions memories all over again.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    I think at this point we are ALL hoping Trestman would be gone Jeff. But the Bears ownership has more of a historical “let down” outcome than actually doing the right thing at the time. We’ll see.

    Let’s at the very least take Romo OUT! His back is weak and it wouldn’t take much to get him off the field at this point.

    BEAR DOWN!

  • CanadaBear

    The only way Nessman gets canned this year is the team does the El Foldo in all 4 games. 3 in a row at home would definitely bring the heat and a bad loss in the land of 10,000 lakes might do the trick. Otherwise, I don’t think Emery has the stomach for it and I’m sure the McCaskey’s don’t want to pay out the staff.

  • CanadaBear

    I’m not a big James Bond fan but I know a few of you are. Here’s some info on the new one.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-james-bond-spectre-20141204-story.html

    • GPLDAN

      Here’s an actual pic of the prototype DB10

      http://liveimages.motoring.com.au/motoring/general/editorial/ge4881731884329754595.jpg?aspect=centered&height=290&width=440

      Pretty nice. Not a big fan of AM, but it’s good for Bond.

      • CanadaBear

        I saw a few pics earlier when I posted the link. Awesome looking car. They said the car would not go into production. As good looking as it was, that’s a shame. I know nothing about English sports cars other than their rep for faulty wiring and lots of maintenance. Are AM’s decent cars or not so much?

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          I’ve always figured that once I can afford a DB9, I won’t care how much maintenance costs. I’ll be out there giving it hot oil rubdowns at that point.

          • CanadaBear

            Holy Crap! I just looked up what a used one costs. No wonder I rarely see one! When I lived in Calgary I’d see Ferrari’s, Lambo’s, Maseratti’s and Bentley’s pretty much every day. I can only remember seeing 1 or 2 Aston Martin’s. Not sure if they just don’t carry around the same cache as the others or they just aren’t popular with the rich folks.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/621906236/overview/
            For a very reasonable 994.49 a month this DB9 can be yours right now.

          • CanadaBear

            I thought it was over priced until I saw the umbrella in the trunk. Less than 4,000 miles/year. If I had that car, I’d put that many miles on it in a summer.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            my brother loves old cars and he and his friend always bought these shit boxes from the 50’s from farms up in Wisconsin and fixed them up. Never made them too nice but serviceable i guess. I told him to think bigger. His buddy bought an old 911 that was fucking beat up, fixed it up, put an Acura engine in it and drives it 20,000 miles a year with no problem as his personal car. It’s not a true Porsche I guess but it’s damn awesome and never breaks down. The best way to describe it is an Acura in a Porsche 911 frame. I’m looking for the same type of situation and agreed to pay him cash to do the same thing for me.

          • CanadaBear

            Acura NSX was my dream car for years. I wanted a Honda S2000 for a few years, too. I had an ’87 Prelude. Best car I ever owned. Wasn’t fast but it could corner like it was on rails.

    • Scharfinator

      Glad to see Mendes getting the next one. Skyfall was pretty good.

  • Shady

    So from the guy who despises fans who “root” for the team lose for a better draft pick, we get “Bears Thurs feels like the worst morning of my life” and “selfishly rooting for another disastrous prime time performance to affect a coaching change.” But we can’t root for a better draft pick?

    Fuck it, I’m watching Christopher Walken in drag tonight.

    • BerwynBomber

      Excellent point … well, except that last sentence. An NFL game in primetime? I’m on-board. One that is being hosted at Soldier Field and involves the navy blue and burnt orange? F yes I’ll be watching.

      • Shady

        I’m sure Jefe is torn.

        • DaBearsBlog

          I find this team exhausting. In the NOLA story that team went to the NFC title game. This team isn’t fun to watch.

          But every on of the draft pick rooters is full of shit. If Bears have ball with 1 minute left, down 2. Tell me you’re rooting for draft pick.

          • GPLDAN

            I have to come clean:

            I would be rooting for Trestman to blow clock management and be arguing on the sideline while the clock ran to 0:00.

            That would be the stake through Dracula’s heart.

          • Shady

            I wont necessarily be rooting against a meaningless Jay Feely game-winning FG tonight. I think it’s the inner homer in each Bears fan to root for the win, regardless of the greater good. But at this point it’s more apathy than anything else. The outcome doesn’t really matter to me anymore. I’ve made up my mind about this team. Honestly I visit this site more for the humor and shit shooting than to discuss this Bears team.

          • CanadaBear

            Your last two sentences sum it up completely for me!

    • BearDown100393

      Christopher Walken “in drag” vs 2014 Bears in “navy blue and burnt orange” with Trestman on the sideline. This is a toss up.

      • GPLDAN

        Trestman as Captain Hook and Cutler as Peter Pan?

        #disturbing

  • Sactowns#1

    Couldn’t find my Bears tie this morning. Not off to a good start.

    • Old broken romanian Jericho

      If they win you can’t ever wear it again though.

      • Old broken romanian Jericho

        or you would have to wear it differently like on your head or as a sash, etc.

        • BearDown100393

          Garter

        • SC Dave

          Thong

          • Sactowns#1

            Jesus. Glad I went home and lunch and found it on my tie rack buried under two other ties.

  • GPLDAN

    So you guys should have some hope. Keep hope alive!

    The Score had a tax attorney on a call, and said that when Ginny croaks, the inheritance tax on the Bears will be about $400M and the respective family members don’t have it. Not even close, and their fractured nature and unwillingness to pool their holdings means nobody will lend it to them, either.

    That’s why you are seeing individual children beginning to sell off their stake. They are taking their money now and leaving the nest. The family is high fractured on the issue and nobody is quite sure what Ginny’s will does, although George will probably take Ginny’s stake but it might end up in probate if he can’t raise the money. He will certainly NOT be able to vote 80% of the stake as Ginny does today.

    All this bodes well for the average fan. She can’t divvy up below the NFL requirements for minimal stakeholding. Pat Ryan, who holds 20%, is 76 years old and in failing health. So his stake may end up in Andrew McKenna’s hands. McKenna who sits on the Bears board and is 82 years old, was chairman of the board at McDonalds for a long time. But he has an appointment with the Cryptkeeper soon as well.

    All this bodes well for a conglomerate entity to come in and start buying it up. I doubt the Bears stay in the McCaskey family past 2020 and that’s a good thing.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      I guess that means we should start pooling our money together. who is in for $20?

      • Old broken romanian Jericho

        done. 20.00 and an old savings bond my grandma gave me which may be worth upwards of 50.00 at this point.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          I have a Wheaties box that’s worth, conservatively, 30 American dollars.

          • Shady

            Where is your little friend hiding?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Hah! I haven’t talked to MB in a bit; I need to harass him.

          • Shady

            Yes. Yes you do.

          • GPLDAN

            You cheated to get that. Admit it!

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Yes, it was part of the grand conspiracy. Maybe that dude was Irish?!?

    • Old broken romanian Jericho

      Maybe Cuban will buy us….and make us sell merch door to door and eat ketchup sandwiches like he did just to stay hungry.

    • BearDown100393

      Even George Steinbrenner had the decency to expire before the
      inheritance tax activated. Long live the Steinbrenner Yankee Empire.

    • TheBigCheesy

      “But he has an appointment with the Cryptkeeper soon as well”

      Considering how late Trestman is to all of his press conferences, it’s a good bet that McKenna could stick around for a little while longer….

    • BillW

      2019 will be the 100th season of the team (and the league?} Even if ginny dies soon I can’t see the mccaskeys not owning the team then.

      But on the same note do they want dozens of stories written about how the Bears were once the class of the NFL in its early years and now just another bad franchise?

    • SC Dave

      If anyone is buying. With the CTE thing looming, I’d short-sell any NFL franchise myself.

  • BearDown100393

    Even George Steinbrenner had the decency to expire before the inheritance tax activated. Long live the Steinbrenner Yankee Empire.

  • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

    Shitty team or not, I still find myself excited to watch the beloved tonight.

    Bear Down!

    • CanadaBear

      You’re right. I’m trying to act like I don’t care but I’ll have my big butt parked in front of the TV for the entire game. Even though it means nothing and it will hurt our draft position, I’ll be happy as a clam if they win.

      • Old broken romanian Jericho

        a catastrophic season could carry over to next season. Ending on a high note makes guys excited to get back at it….I would imagine.

        • Viva

          Dave Toub for HC..

      • GPLDAN

        FUCK ROMO!

        • Viva

          FUCK EVERYTHING

  • GPLDAN

    More natl writers than expected picking CHI tonite, inc @DonBanks. Can’t come up w/plausible football reason for it. Seems more anti-Dallas.

    Hubba also picks the Bears to win. Only Buffone thinks their Tomahta Can pansy asses will get whacked.

    • NewBearInTown

      Folks probably see this as a trap game. The Bears offense has flashed signs of life; the right game against the right team (with a weak secondary) and they could put up 30 points. Plus Dallas is still hurting from their big let down, they might be thinking past this week to the return game against the Eagles. That is the formula for an upset.
      I don’t really buy it myself, but that’s the narrative.

  • http://www.upitpuppet.com/ evantonio

    Sorry I’ve been absent. I know y’all have missed me. But I’ve been honeymooning. Two weeks in Iceland and now in St. maarten. Luckily, though, there’s a bar in my hotel showing the game tonight. Wife is OK to spend the night watching it. Which is nice.

    Jerks better show up for us. Bear down.

    • Old broken romanian Jericho

      you getting pink drink drunk tonight?

      • http://www.upitpuppet.com/ evantonio

        Nah. We’re at an all inclusive. Whiskey, whiskey, and more whiskey. Maybe some scotch for dessert.

        • Old broken romanian Jericho

          lol, in highschool my buddies and I called that going “full black sheep”. We had a tape that we would play at any party we went to when we broke out the cheap scotch we stole from our dad’s liquor cabinets.

          Fucking Black Sheep Squadron.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZaEkJUKRcA

          • http://www.upitpuppet.com/ evantonio

            Nothing like some Clan McGregor to fire up a Friday night.

    • Trac

      How was iceland? Did you go kayaking?

      • http://www.upitpuppet.com/ evantonio

        It was unreal. Other worldly. We didn’t kayak. We did lots of hiking – across lava fields, up a glacier, up to and around waterfalls, down into lava tube caves. I’ll share some pics once I’m home and done.

        • Trac

          Yeah I’ve heard awesome stories about Iceland.

    • CanadaBear

      Congrats on the nuptials! Sounds like an awesome honeymoon. She sounds like a keeper!

  • GPLDAN

    We tried giving Shae Hampton’s old number. Now he has Singletary’s number. Fuck it, next year let’s just un-retire #34, move him to fullback, and try that.

    • Trac

      Personally I don’t think numbers should be retired.

  • Sactowns#1

    You know I actually forgot we played Green Bay twice already this year. Repressed that memory pretty well. Maybe I believe Roseanne now.

  • Hank

    At the start of the year I looked at this game and thought it was one of a few Bears locks. We play them well. Ever since the ’84 humiliation we smacked down on them. Not as confident now, but generally think Romo is a wanker and will always disappoint his fans in long term. Reminds me of Cutler in that way. Hurts to admit that. Go Bears.

    • Trac

      If the Bears win I will be shocked. Kind of in the same way that Global warming is causing record breaking cold temperatures. It just won’t compute.

      • Sactowns#1

        Trac, your blind allegiance to right wing news is amazing. I’m still waiting for that ebola epidemic you promised me.

        • SC Dave

          Being skeptical of research designed to support specific public policy is hardly “right-wing”.

        • Trac

          Hahaha. Very funny Sac.

  • Shady

    I look at this team and I feel like Judge Smails:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0YIJQ1jgEI

    What’s it going to be? Bears or Jeffersons?

  • Shady

    Phucking Phil Sims. Great.

    • SC Dave

      Fortunately, no sound here

  • SC Dave

    Well yonny, tonight it’s foothills torch pilsner, as I’m feeling mildly under the weather and hence a bit lower on the ABV %. To Johnny and Jay… cheers!

  • BearDown100393

    Need to get that Feely jersey.

  • Shady

    Wow. Fuller just got thrown to the ground by Dez with one arm.

    • BearDown100393

      Dez must’ve watched some Martellus Bennett training camp tape.

  • FantuzPhysics

    Willie Young. Thank you for never quitting.

  • Shady

    One eyed Willie Young gettin’ it done!

  • huntinbare

    Was that a run

    • SC Dave

      Without blocking by the looks of it

  • FantuzPhysics

    We need better blocking. From the OL to the WR.

    • SC Dave

      This

  • Trac

    The problem with this coaching staff is they’re spooked. Don’t know whether to run or pass.

    • FantuzPhysics

      I saw a breakdown where the analysis suggested the playcalling is similar to last year. Just poor execution by players and huge regression from OL.

    • SC Dave

      Run blocking is astonishimgly awful

  • huntinbare

    Why screens on 3rd ..

    • Shady

      No Tresticles.

    • FantuzPhysics

      That has to be Jay bailing out of the play right?

    • SC Dave

      Because our ol is totally owmed by dallas dl so far

  • Shady

    Hey Al, it’s your guy Ed Hochuli!

  • FantuzPhysics

    Cowboys have a much stronger OL. We need more from our OL.

  • huntinbare

    Run woulda been nice

  • BearDown100393

    Rod Marinelli must be climbing Everest after the game.

    • huntinbare

      He likes his new billion$ digs

  • huntinbare

    Flinched or blinked

  • FantuzPhysics

    A few games back I posted how Pat O’Donnell was the 2nd worst punter in the nfl in most categories.

    • Shady

      What the hell happened there? If it wasn’t blocked than it has to be roughing the kicker.

      Edit: So it was blocked. Somehow.

    • huntinbare

      Probably shoulda went for it on 4th…how bad could it have been after that

    • BearDown100393

      He might be #1 imitating a whirlybird.

  • FantuzPhysics

    What a hit by Conte. Dude is going to lose a shoulder some day soon. I almost expected him to be wearing a pirate patch tonight after his eye injury.

    • Shady

      Speaking of pirates, Christopher Walken is killing it as Hook right now.

  • Trac

    What a way to pickup 1 yd

  • SC Dave

    Stuff this, dammit!

  • huntinbare

    Blow em up

    • huntinbare

      Well…maybe not

  • Trac

    Kick it!!!

  • SC Dave

    Awww… poo

  • huntinbare

    That 4th down decision is a testament to how scary Mel’s Defense is

    • Trac

      Was thinking that earlier.

  • huntinbare

    JONES

  • SC Dave

    Well, its about quitting time for the offense now

    • BearDown100393

      Steakhouse reservation at 9. Better start killing that clock.

    • huntinbare

      Is it time to ditch the run

  • huntinbare

    How come we can’t pick up 4th and less than a yard…

    • SC Dave

      No o line

      • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

        they convert on 3rd or 4th and 1 most of the time. 15/20 on the season, 75%.

        only 3/7 when they throw on those downs.

        • huntinbare

          That is better than I thought…very good %..thanks for the correction

  • Trac

    I’d love to see a bomb to Wilson.

    • FantuzPhysics

      Agreed.

  • Shady

    Noice catch Marshall.

  • Trac

    Nice juggle

  • SC Dave

    Shades of old brandon?

  • huntinbare

    Positive on that drive by Dallas….goal line hit by Jones…and now a great catch by BMarsh…playmakers making plays

  • SC Dave

    Shall we stop this with penalties now?

  • BearDown100393

    Feely!

  • Shady

    Fuck it’s his hip. Or back.

    • Jack Lacan

      Spleen…

      • Shady

        Yup.

  • SC Dave

    Jay, try throwing to smeone open…. yeah like that.

  • Trac

    Smart move by Trestman. Don’t punt, don’t bother with field goals.

  • Trac

    At least it wasn’t a knee to the nuts. He he.

  • huntinbare

    Cracked to the rib cage…hope his cartilage is o.k.

  • huntinbare

    The unicorn says Payback

  • Jack Lacan

    Bannerman!!!!!

  • huntinbare

    Mr McFeely ….GOOD

  • SC Dave

    Wtg o! Make a habit of it

    • huntinbare

      WTG Marshal…playmaker makin plays

  • huntinbare

    Great kicking game….why give them field position

  • Scharfinator

    Christian Jones is showing up.

    • huntinbare

      He wants to be a starter…nows his chance to shine

      • Scharfinator

        Nope, DJ back in. Unfortunate.

        • huntinbare

          He will play nickel and get his opps.

  • Scharfinator

    So we don’t believe in covering Murray when he splits out? Is that what I’m seeing?

    • Shady

      They literally didn’t cover anybody on that last play.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        That sounds familiar.

    • huntinbare

      Jones drop was too deep…he had his eyes outside towards jennings

  • huntinbare

    One Difference between Bears and Cowboys
    Their false starts do not cause them to go 3 and out

    • Shady

      True. Bears O struggles with overcoming negative plays.

  • Trac

    Wow. A tackle for a loss. I’m shocked.

    • Shady

      Dinner no less.

  • huntinbare

    Where was the pressure Mel

    • Scharfinator

      Yeah…. best OLine in football and you don’t do anything different for them?

    • johnnywad

      Near his anus

  • BearDown100393

    Romo threw that football straight into Witten’s rocking chair.

    • Shady

      Where’s the rush? Allen is garbage at Soldier Field.

      • Scharfinator

        He’s a turf guy. Not a sand crab like you need to be at Soldier.

        • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

          he’s also playing one of the best LTs in the NFL.

          • huntinbare

            They said he might disappear…gotta keep pounding away though…this gamw should cone down to a matter of want too.

          • Scharfinator

            Isn’t he supposed to be one of the best?

    • huntinbare

      We were on the porch with our feet up

      • SC Dave

        Too much time to cover smart receivers. Outta battery, which I’m sure will disappoint you all . Later,compadres

        • huntinbare

          Plug it in….misery loves company…we need you to make us laugh a bit…

  • SC Dave

    Hard toxwin in football when.you lose the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball… sigh.

  • Trac

    A pick would be vunderbar

    • Scharfinator

      Pick 6 for CD.

  • wreckinball

    No rush gotta do something

  • huntinbare

    We blitz on 3rd and short…but not 3rd and long?

  • wreckinball

    Come on put some pressure on

  • Shady

    C’mahhhhhhhn,

  • FantuzPhysics

    That’s not a TD

    • FantuzPhysics

      Swear the knee was down. Ok. Very wrong.

  • wreckinball

    Every fucking game TD at end of half

    • GPLDAN

      every one

    • SC Dave

      As reliable as zero point first quarters from the o

  • SC Dave

    Nothing like the good old prevent ( victory) defense

    • wreckinball

      Have to get a fucking pass rush come on man

  • huntinbare

    We were scrambling to get in position…no time out?/ .how long were we on the field with our D…and please why did we play that stupid kickoff crap right after a score…try and give them a longer field

    • SC Dave

      Maybe feely cnt kick it to the endzone?

      • huntinbare

        He didn’t even get it airborn…gotta at least try for the 5

  • Scharfinator

    Today, Mel Tucker confused prevent defense with prevent unemployment.

  • wreckinball

    We can’t cover for 5 seconds or more so tucker and the brain trust LOLneed to figure something out

    • BerwynBomber

      Bears had a decent pass rush for a quarter and a half. Not only Young’s sack but Romo had to dump off a few passes in a hurry. Their O-line did a better job on that last drive.

      Our rush D has been gashed.

  • Scharfinator

    One day these dumb motherfuckers will learn it is JEFFREY.

  • huntinbare

    WILL THERE BE ADJUSTMENTS FOR THEIR ADJUSTMENTS….THE CHESS MATCH IS COMING

  • Trac

    I’ve been watching Bostic.

    #forgettaboutit

  • huntinbare

    Put Long on defense

  • huntinbare

    Ghost of Marinelli

  • wreckinball

    Shame

  • wreckinball

    Our O just sucks sorry needed to drive down and tie it

  • Shady

    Horrible. Exactly what the Bears couldn’t afford.

  • BerwynBomber

    Sucks when Forte makes a mistake. He makes so few.

    Btw, remember when it seemed like we were the only team in the league that knew how to strip the ball? Ah, the advantageous days.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Ugh. But can Long play DT?

    • johnnywad

      That was one angry tackle

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        That might be the next jersey I buy. Kid shows heart even on this train wreck of a team.

        • johnnywad

          He’s got to be the Olin Kreutz style leader of this team in the future. There’s nobody else on the roster that seems cut out for it.

  • Trac

    7 rushes for 7 yds for Mattay.

  • wreckinball

    Absolutely need to hold it to 3

  • huntinbare

    Hope fully this doesn’t break our spirit…they gotta play for Marshal…he was balling…somebody else STEP UP

  • wreckinball

    Can wegetastop

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Mike Carey is a fucking moron or blind or both. I’m tending toward both.

  • wreckinball

    Unfucking believable

  • Shady

    smfh

  • FantuzPhysics

    Romo. Conte. Tears.

  • huntinbare

    Shoulda picked that duck

  • Old broken romanian Jericho

    Lol, Cutler talk officially fucking stops right fucking now.

    • wreckinball

      Will he fucking answer if not it starts up again

      • Old broken romanian Jericho

        Well, as we know and have just witnessed, other guys need to fucking step up and do their jobs.
        How fucking hard is it to get 1-2 yards deeper on fucking dump off routes? Why does forte have to get 3yds on dump offs when Murray gets 5-6?
        Forte 1-2 yds on first down runs, other teams 4-6

  • Trac

    Let the whoa’s begin

  • BerwynBomber

    Big time play by Romo. He always has had the ability to make those gym-rat type ad-libs.

    • huntinbare

      He should not have a receiver that open at the goal line…especially on a duck

      • BerwynBomber

        Long time to expect suffocating coverage. That play was extended by a scramble. Young was damn close to getting him.

  • wreckinball

    Ok will the vaunted O answer ? If not really what’s the fucking point back the truck totally up

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    That’s the non coverage we know and love. That ones on willie young though. He gets paid to get there.

  • RenoBear

    Nothing profound I know… But damn we just suck… Nothing ever really ever goes right for this Bears team. Little bit of good gets overwhelmed by very bad. And that pretty much sums up this team. Damn

  • wreckinball

    What’s the point of reviewing muscles is a terrible official

  • Scharfinator

    I’m much more concerned with Brandon Marshall’s health, rather than the game.

    • Trac

      yes, no way we can trade him if he’s damaged goods.

      • Scharfinator

        Only way that happens if we jettison Cutty too.

        • Trac

          we need to rebuild. this team is joke.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      I missed the first half; what’s up with heart monitor? Blow to the chest?

      • johnnywad

        In the back. Hard knee just under the pad

      • Shady

        Hopefully the trip to the hospital was just precautionary, he took a knee to the back/spleen on a big 4th down conversion.

  • huntinbare

    We nust be about 90% on giving up points after turnovers

  • wreckinball

    Cole fucking Beasley

  • wreckinball

    There we go

  • Cubs_Questions

    Time to end these screens. So predictable.

  • Shady

    So fucking predictable.

    • GPLDAN

      tiny bubbles….

  • wreckinball

    WTF

  • huntinbare

    We are soooii bad at recovering after penalties

    • Old broken romanian Jericho

      It was 3rd and 15 from the 6

      Also, McCray fucking sucks

    • Cubs_Questions

      Penalties have been death sentences for Bears drives.

  • RenoBear

    Man the offense kills itself consistently. Same old song and fuckin dance.

  • huntinbare

    Clip

  • wreckinball

    Ok zebras wake up

  • BerwynBomber

    We have no intermediate passing game. Or at least a very weak one.

    • Cubs_Questions

      The Bears have all but stopped throwing anything but short passes and screens. Can’t figure it out.

      • BerwynBomber

        No, we throw bombs too. Just nothing in between screens/dumps and bombs.

  • wreckinball

    Need a stop and then the O needs to get their head out of their ass

  • SC Dave

    A penalty against dallas? Miracles do happen

  • Scharfinator

    Trestman, the Ron Turner of short passing.

  • huntinbare

    1st drive…done in by fumble
    2nd drive…done in by holding
    3rd drive after half?????

  • Big Mike

    Trestman is a fucking embarrassment. 3rd and 15 screen ? Just punt in 3rd if that’s all you have

    • FantuzPhysics

      I am still not sure it isn’t Jay bailing out of plays. Can anyone convince me otherwise?

      • Scharfinator

        That part is hard to say. We may know when someone leaves the team and talks.

        • FantuzPhysics

          True. Whatever is going on it ain’t working, but I think it is the whole team playing like crap together.

      • Big Mike

        At first I thought he was bailing out on runs. But looking at the ALL 22 views from the last few weeks, nobody is open. That’s why all the check downs. Not open, because the routes are predictable.

      • Big Mike

        And a screen is never a check down play.

  • Old broken romanian Jericho

    Lol, I can’t believe my cole Beasley prediction is coming true

    • wreckinball

      Yes he’s welker tonight

  • Big Mike

    Goodnight gents.

  • Scharfinator

    And the team has quit.

    • GPLDAN

      totally

  • BerwynBomber

    Fuller getting worked over pretty well tonight.

    • GPLDAN

      Dez is waaay too much for the kid.

      • BearDown100393

        And Megatron.

      • Scharfinator

        Yeah, normally you have a scheme in place to help out a rookie CB against a household name WR.

        NOT TONIGHT.

        • johnnywad

          Not just rookies. All but a few Corners get scheme help with these guys

          • Scharfinator

            Agreed, I figured I’d add rookie to further make Tucker look incompetent.

          • johnnywad

            He’s proving quite proficient on his own but I do appreciate the extra effort. Hopefully he shows up tomorrow to find the locks on the office door changed and Trestman loading their shit into the trunk of his Buick.

      • BerwynBomber

        I said this a couple of weeks ago but I still think Tiny Tim is our best CB. Fuller flashed early and I really like the kid but Jennings is a ten year, semi-accomplished vet and it has show as the season has worn on.
        Still feel good about our starting CBs going into next year.

  • wreckinball

    We are a joke

  • huntinbare

    That was weak

  • Shady

    Fire everybody.

    • wreckinball

      Agree really could it get worse

  • wreckinball

    And now the lay down

    • GPLDAN

      now it’s easy…

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Soft, Passionless&Clueless’14

      Any time they’re down two scores they lay down faster than a tj hooker

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Soft, Passionless&Clueless’14

    No pass rush whatsoever. Allen is getting stonewalled

  • wreckinball

    No one can cover Dez and Tron man up Tucker is a retard

  • wreckinball

    Oh those tricky Bears

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Soft, Passionless&Clueless’14

    Time to pad the stats

    • Old broken romanian Jericho

      Dude, this is on the D, stop it

    • Old broken romanian Jericho

      It’s the middle of the 3rd quarter pal

    • wreckinball

      You’re right

      • Old broken romanian Jericho

        It’s the middle of the god damn 3rd quarter

    • BearDown100393

      What stats? Bortles might be getting nervous.

  • Cubs_Questions

    Part of me wants to see an awesome comeback win. And part of me wants Dallas to score 21 more points and blow us out so that everybody gets fired on Monday.

    • FantuzPhysics

      I’d rather lose Jay first. I don’t dislike him, I just think he has lost his way completely.

      • Cubs_Questions

        Jay actually has better numbers with the lead than behind this season– 68.1 completion percent, 6 TD and 3 INT with a 92.6 rating with the lead, and a 65.5 completion percent, 14 TD, 10 INT, 87.0 rating when playing from behind. And he has a 105.6 rating when the Bears are tied.

        The problem is that they’re more frequently playing from behind than anything else (267 of 448 attempts coming into tonight). I think if the Bears had a decent defense, this offense would look much better. I would like to see the defense play well before deciding how I feel about Jay.

        Especially when he makes touchdown passes like that!

    • wreckinball

      No one gets fired on Monday ever

      • Shady

        Luckily tomorrow is Friday. Everyone gets canned on Friday.

      • Cubs_Questions

        The Raiders fired Dennis Allen on a Monday after falling to 0-4 earlier this season. There have been more than 20 coaches fired midseason since 2000, and I would bet that most came on Mondays.

  • wreckinball

    Well open and ?

  • FantuzPhysics

    First time they tried Wilson deep. Not quite there.

    • BerwynBomber

      Beyond some Forte plays, PI calls on our deep throws have been our most productive O plays this year.

  • wreckinball

    What a time for a fumble

  • Trac

    Can anybody think of something productive to say?

    • wreckinball

      No clown show drink

    • BearDown100393

      Jay would make a great Running Man?

      • Trac

        haha. I can’t remember ever seeing a Bears team with this much potential tank so fast. 10-6 to this in under two years with some pretty good talent on the roster. Nobody saw it coming.

    • underway

      Turf is holding up well. Chicago Park District has figured something out. They have adapted.

  • Old broken romanian Jericho

    Our linemen got beat directly off the fucking snap. Immediately. Who the fuck is number 79?

  • wreckinball

    Big time QB hits that throw

  • huntinbare

    I thought our 2nd half adjustments were ..
    Take care of the football…no penalties…and fundamentals

  • wreckinball

    Their O line owns us

    • huntinbare

      Try something new

      • wreckinball

        Like what dude really

        • huntinbare

          Just frustration that we have no “new” or other…Just sarcasm cause we are about to break another team record for D futility

      • wreckinball

        Ok get real

  • Old broken romanian Jericho

    Forte dump off 3yds
    Murray dump off 12yds

  • BerwynBomber

    Our D sucks but DeMarco Murray is a beast.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Soft, Passionless&Clueless’14

      Our run d is middle of the pack. Murray broke Jim Brown’s record this season

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Soft, Passionless&Clueless’14

    Why is dj still out there?

  • wreckinball

    I hate that fucking guy

  • madscout12

    Fuck you, muscles

  • BearDown100393

    Apparently Emmit Smith has been reincarnated.

  • Shady

    Another fucking Jeffersonian performance tonight.

    Peter Pan time. There bastards have forced me to watch Peter fucking Pan.

    • Scharfinator

      Lol

    • BearDown100393

      Allison Williams is performing live. There is no quit when you are performing live. Right Bears?

  • underway

    No more primetime games. No MONDAYS,THURSDAYS OR SUNDAY NIGHTS. NFL cant afford to lose the viewers because of our team….

  • Trac

    Goodnight boys. I better go night night before the boggie man gets me. Ugly, ugly, ugly team.

  • wreckinball

    Will we see the backup QB

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Soft, Passionless&Clueless’14

      Nope. Bears dont believe in logic

      • wreckinball

        Actually I meant the Boys backup

      • Old broken romanian Jericho

        Why would we see the backup?

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Soft, Passionless&Clueless’14

          To save cutty and forte for a real game?

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Why? As with Rodgers, it’s not like we’re going to tag him.

  • underway

    As long as fans come to the circus the show will remain in town.. empty those stands and no beer money… change will happen

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Oh fuck me. Now we lose black unicorn? Just roll out our 2nd stringers the rest of the season so we’re not picking through FA garbage on o next year.

    • huntinbare

      Every thing has gone wrong this year….

      • SC Dave

        True, especially since Cutler will still be our QB. The man has ZERO leadership skills. In fact, zero is a ridiculous overstatement, since his rating there should be negative.

  • huntinbare

    In hockey the Kings fans love to call out Crawfords name nice and slow…especially after goals…I cannot believe the fans do not do this with Tucker after every score

  • BerwynBomber

    PI calls are our most productive pass plays.

    • Old broken romanian Jericho

      if he doesn’t interfere it’s a god damn completed pass. Wtf is with you guys?

      • BerwynBomber

        Chill. I’m not hammering on your precious Cutty. Just an observation over the course of the season. Those are generally our biggest chunk plays.

        • Old broken romanian Jericho

          Jesus dude, cantfucking win. If its a deep pass and they interfere it doesn’t count with you. If the guy doesn’t catch a 40yd bomb in stride it doesn’t count with wrecking ball.
          If the D gives up td’s and we take over on offense in the 3rd qtr it’s padding stats somehow. Fuck you guys

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            You guys are out of fucking control, don’t bother responding

          • BearDown100393

            Is euthanasia legal in Romania?

      • SC Dave

        The Chicago Bears will be circling the drain so long as Jay Cutler remains the QB. I’d rather have Rex Grossman.

        • Old broken romanian Jericho

          Did you even watch this game? It is un fucking acceptable that the quarterback is even being mentioned right now.

  • wreckinball

    Ok flag but didn’t hit him in stride would have been TD

  • Old broken romanian Jericho

    If they don’t interfere it’s a god damn catch. Seriously, look at your fucking comments. Jesus

  • BearDown100393

    I feel bad for the suckers in the stands who paid $7 watching this mess.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Beautiful pass.

  • Jack Lacan

    Bannerman!!!!

  • huntinbare

    Finally another playmaker steps up

  • wreckinball

    Ok

  • underway

    ??

  • Shady

    Tucker GONE. DeCamel GONE.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    SMH. Oh well.

  • wreckinball

    Block somebody?

    • huntinbare

      These plays make us look so undisciplined

      • wreckinball

        Yea it’s a total dumpster fire Cant even think of any straws to grasp on to

  • Jack Lacan

    Watching this game is like an evening with the Marquis de Sade.

  • wreckinball

    Good kick by Feely should have covered

  • Old broken romanian Jericho

    Bostic?

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Jeff not even tweeting. My phones dying and this team quit on D months ago.

    • SC Dave

      What team are you watching? The OFFENSE are the quitters, led by our “franchise” QB

      • Cubs_Questions

        I don’t see Cutty quitting. But honestly, wouldn’t you be fed up if you had to play from ( very far) behind as often as this offense has?

        • BearDown100393

          13 points. 4th quarter.

          • Cubs_Questions

            Yep, we’re watching the same game. But I think Jay has been one of the lone bright spots tonight. He was great before the Bears fell way behind; he started off 10 for 13, 100 yards and 1 touchdown, no INTs.

            Still tonight he’s 24/35, 252 yards and 2 TDs.

          • BearDown100393

            Marty Bennett is turning in a very good performance tonight against his old team. Alshon is giving what he can. Same goes for Matt. Looks like Jay and the offense are going to get another series after recovering the onside kick.

        • SC Dave

          The offense has REPEATEDLY been shut out in the first half this year. Tonight, Dallas had the ball three (or four?) times before they scored. Between, the Bears offense did NOTHING. NOTHING. AGAIN.

          So, ask yourself where the problem lies.

          Tonight was, for the first time I remember in a long time, when the offense actually RESPONDED to a score by the other team (to make it 7-7). Yes, Dallas then scored to end the half.

          So what does the offense do, down 14-7 to start the second half? Give Dallas the ball about the Bears’ 30 on a turnover.

          And you want to blame the DEFENSE for putting the O in the hole? Really?

          Go here, and look at how the offense has done in the first half this season:

          http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/chi/2014.htm

          Remember, this was a team that went “all in” on offense, most pointedly by rolling the next three seasons with Jay Cutler.

          • Cubs_Questions

            Okay, we’re not on completely opposite sides here. The offense has been bad, absolutely. But my point is that I think Jay has actually been pretty good, and hasn’t quit.

            I wouldn’t blame Cutler for Forte’s fumble at the beginning of the third quarter on a pass that would have gone for a first down, by the way.

            And it doesn’t matter that the Bears held the Cowboys scoreless for three or four possessions when the end result is giving up 38 points, including an 8/10, 125 yard, 3 touchdown stretch for Tony Romo.

            The offense AND defense have been abysmal. I think part of that is the play calling, and I think part of it is a lack of discipline. And yes, he has made mistakes. But I simply don’t believe that you can blame it all on Jay.

            The Bears just score two touchdowns in two minutes to make it a 10 point game and the defense immediately gets burned on the ground by Murray. It goes both ways.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        You must be joking.

  • wreckinball

    The Jeffersons actually in future years bad Ds will be called a “Bears”

  • Shady

    What did the people of Chicago do to deserve a team like this?

    • FantuzPhysics

      The failings of the previous regime are coming to light here. They did not build for the future.

      • NewBearInTown

        Give me a break. How many players from the previous regime are on the field right now? Trestman leads this group, Trestman is responsible for their shortcomings. Same for Cutler.

    • BearDown100393

      Payback for Oprah.

  • SC Dave

    Stopped watching the latest shitshow in the 3rd quarter.

    I have been really, really, reluctant to join the peasant mob with pitchforks and torches looking to burn Dr. Trestman. And I won’t – I’d give him the pardon as we usher him somewhere else.

    And it really has less to do with him than a bunch of prima donna quitting pieces of shit on the offensive roster. ESPECIALLY the QB. The least inspiring QB I’ve seen in my life

    • BearDown100393

      You just declared war on Romania for insulting its beloved son.

      • BerwynBomber

        Dave and Waffle go way back on the Cutty Debates. I think they once whistle-stopped thru most of Illinois a’la Lincoln/Douglas.

        • BearDown100393

          Rather indicting of the team’s performance when diehard fans argue vehemently over which aspect of the team is the worst and most responsible for losing.

    • wreckinball

      You’re right

      • Old broken romanian Jericho

        No he’s not

    • Old broken romanian Jericho

      Dave the cowboys scored on 6 straight drives. That’s not real football. What does the qh have to do with this at all?

      • Old broken romanian Jericho

        They blocked our extra point

      • wreckinball

        And what did the O do In between?

        • BearDown100393

          They exercised.

      • BerwynBomber

        Well we were supposed to win shootouts. Remember? That was the whole idea behind this O. Putting up seven points (against a crappy D) in three quarters is not going to get it done.

      • SC Dave

        Simple, where the D stopped them three (or four) times in a row to start the game, the offense DID FUCKING nothing in their Cutleresque manner. Jay has ZERO killer instinct, and ZERO leadership ability.

        But “Jay is our QB”. I’d rather have Rex.

        • Cubs_Questions

          A fair amount of that is the play calling, in my opinion. The offense has become terribly predictable.

          • SC Dave

            If you make bad throws, don’t find open receivers, miss blocks, fumble, move before the snap, and hold, play-calling doesn’t mean a fucking thing.

        • Old broken romanian Jericho

          This comment is baffling

          • SC Dave

            Truly a mind-numbingly idiotic response, Johnny. Far more pathetic than usual from you.

  • wreckinball

    Nice catch !

  • Old broken romanian Jericho

    Break a god damn tackle

  • wreckinball

    Doesn’t go through the progression receiver open over the middle

    • SC Dave

      You mean Cutler, of course? He has no vision.

      • wreckinball

        Of course

  • huntinbare

    Go for 2…

  • Jack Lacan

    Bannerman!!!!

  • huntinbare

    GOYYYYYYYY for 2
    The next “kitchen appliance to keep food cold”

  • BerwynBomber

    Why do I think these garbage time TDs will save Trestman until the season is over?

    • Scharfinator

      As long as they axe him, I’m okay with it being by the end of the season.

    • Old broken romanian Jericho

      They’re competing , are they supposed to kneel it?

      • BerwynBomber

        Did I say they should quit? You are so damn sensitive.

        • Scharfinator

          He’s so mad his reading comprehension has dropped.

          • BearDown100393

            Romania rejoices!

  • wreckinball

    Wow Feely is good at this

  • huntinbare

    This game turned on the fumble…that was a possible 10 – 14 pt. swing

  • FantuzPhysics

    We need to play hurry up.

  • BerwynBomber

    Here we go. I assume Trestman will kick now but who knows. Maybe he will keep on-siding.

  • huntinbare

    Cutler coulda got blown up at the goal line…nice spin-o-rama

  • wreckinball

    Nice run actually he needs to do that more

  • GPLDAN

    do it again Feely

  • Jack Lacan

    Could this be a Festivus Miracle?

    • GPLDAN

      no

      • Jack Lacan

        Yah, eh…

  • wreckinball

    God do I hate this guy

  • Old broken romanian Jericho

    Lol

    • EnderWiggin

      First and 10 for the Girls.. 20 yard run. Geez, that must mean Cutty sucks.

  • huntinbare

    Shoulda kicked it deep…onsides made it a 3 possesion game

    • wreckinball

      Agree just play straight up

      • SC Dave

        That would be that Feely magic kicking it out of the endzone?

        Why does this so remind me of the Doug Flutie bullshit that Ditka pulled?

        • wreckinball

          Dude onside kick focus

  • huntinbare

    Lovie would have been trying to take the ball away after the touchback

    • BearDown100393

      Lovie would’ve had a lineman fall on Murray’s knee sometime in the 2nd quarter.

  • Old broken romanian Jericho

    7 straight drives with a score?

  • wreckinball

    Ok score now and let Feely do his Magic

    • SC Dave

      What’s with the Feely bullshit? I’m so confused.

      • BearDown100393

        Lifting the Onside Kick Curse circa 2003.

      • wreckinball

        He’s good at onside

        • SC Dave

          Got it…

  • SC Dave

    BTW, I hope you got what you wanted in the rushing game tonight. We cannot run block, at all, and you all bitch because Trestman wants to throw.

    • BearDown100393

      Throw every down though?

      • SC Dave

        We cannot run block. 26 yards on 13 carries for Forte.

  • BearDown100393

    Quite a competition on the Dallas sideline for the Dickhead Award between Scandrick and Bryant.

  • huntinbare

    O line stepping up

    • SC Dave

      They could try that in the first quarter for a change.

  • wreckinball

    God I hate this guy

  • SC Dave

    Is it possible that Dallas could still fuck this up?

    • BearDown100393

      Any given Thursday.

    • BerwynBomber

      Garrett has had poor game management at the end of games. He has a history of it.

    • SC Dave

      Guess we fucked it up first.

  • Scharfinator

    We can’t keep dinking and dunking. No time.

    • SC Dave

      Must be banking on the onside.

  • Old broken romanian Jericho

    Gotta roll out

  • Old broken romanian Jericho

    Hit Alshon for 3

  • wreckinball

    Nice lets go

  • Jack Lacan

    No Festivus Miracle tonight…

  • wreckinball

    WTF was that !

  • BearDown100393

    LOL, perfect ending.

    • huntinbare

      Sums up the whole year

      • BearDown100393

        #21 for #6.

  • wreckinball

    Competing with Bortles advantage Jay

    • SC Dave

      Everyone wants to fire Trestman, but that wont fix this shit.

      • Scharfinator

        The Bears with Jay were better with Lovie than Trestman – so far.

        • Old broken romanian Jericho

          Because our D didn’t let teams score on 7straight possessions. Our special teams scored tds and we had a running game

          • wreckinball

            What is up with you yes the D sucks but Jay is supposed to be Brady Manning guys who won shootouts even when their D sucks He hasn’t got it done not even close

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            Sucks? No dude, historical

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            Brady and manning have NEVER had to endure D performances like the last 2 years. Fucking never

          • SC Dave

            I call bullshit. How many times have Brady, Manning, etc been shut out in the first half? Its quite possible fewer times IN THEIR CAREERS than Cutler this season.

            And those bastards have been in the league a looong time.

          • SC Dave

            No, Jay is supposed to NOT be the guy that fails to lead the offense to points in the first half so fucking often.

          • BerwynBomber

            Because we didn’t throw all our money behind our QB and all his O weapons. We decided two years ago to build the team around Jay.

          • SC Dave

            And what a mistake it has proven to be. So far, anyway.

            Maybe if we could get an OLine back together? Oh, never mind. We’d still have Cutler.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            Why is it so bad that we got a number 1 WR, drafted a WR in the 2nd round and installed an actual TE and OL pieces? The D disintegrated 2yrs before they thought it was going to. We’ve fucking covered this

          • SC Dave

            Nothing, except that we don’t have a QB that sees them when they are open often enough.

          • BerwynBomber

            Because we are NOT scoring and there is very little money to play any big time D players.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            What in thee fuck would 3million extra on the cap do? Curlers contract didn’t get in the way of shit this offseason

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            Please god someone address this post

        • SC Dave

          The Bears with Rex under Lovie were better than the Bears with Jay under Lovie.

          Thanks for setting up the comparison. Are you reading, Johnny?

          • Scharfinator

            So shit can them both? Your argument doesn’t hold water for retaining Trestman. Only for jettisoning Cutler as well.

          • SC Dave

            Fair enough, although my real point was I’d rather have Grossman than Cutler. But “Jay is our QB”, so we are stuck with this crap for at least two more years. Let’s at least hope they go down in flames together, so Cutler cannot get ANOTHER coach fired and lose MORE seasons for the beloved.

      • SC Dave

        Whatever, JOhhny (anticipating your response). Cutler and the O, once again,did NOTHING in the first quarter while the D fought valiantly. Story of tonight.

    • Old broken romanian Jericho

      After all this that’s what you decided to post

      • wreckinball

        Yes it is make a fucking play for christs sake you are the highest paid player in the league

        • Old broken romanian Jericho

          It’s not a movie or a video game. No team survives 7straight scoring drives given up

          • Scharfinator

            Johnny must be Cavallari in disguise.

          • SC Dave

            You truly are hopeless, Johnny. Had the offense bothered to not put the defense back out on the field three times in the first quarter, and given them a glimmer of hope by SCORING SOME FUCKING POINTS, maybe it would have been different.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            Dave, it was 7-7 before the cowboys went for 28straight

          • SC Dave

            The defense stopped them 3 (or 4?) times to start the game. The offense scored zero points. UNACCEPTABLE.

            Guys like Rodgers, Brees, Manning, Brady, Rivers, Luck, etc, would, with the “weapons” we have that you all love to extol when bashing Trestman, be up at least 14-0 by then. And the other offense would have to change their game plan and throw like we always do. With the same results, EXCEPT WE would be on the winning side.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            Dude, they stopped each other and another special teams gaffe started the scoring. Then we came back and scored right after. It was football Dave. Penalties and the inability to get more than 2-3 yds per run kill drives Dave. That’s what the O does. Penalties and no running game.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            Blocked punt set up a score, fumble set up a score, multiple 80yd drives, Murray with 230total yds, romo 5 incompletions, Beasley 2tds, wtf

  • BearDown100393

    DeMarco Murray is not on Brennan Clay’s Christmas card list. Check Deadspin.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Soft, Passionless&Clueless’14

    I’m sure that’s the olines fault. Or the receiver for running into double coverage. Or the field . Yeah, blame it on the field
    #Bortles

    • Old broken romanian Jericho

      Cunt

      • Old broken romanian Jericho

        When did you become such a fag?

        • BearDown100393

          Seriously?

        • TheBigCheesy

          Reply fail

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Soft, Passionless&Clueless’14

          I’m just done with Cutler. Gave him the benefit of the doubt for longer than most, but that last drive pretty much epitomizes him. Looks great at times, then kills team when it counts.
          Even u can’t excuse that last int

  • BearDown100393

    Jim Nantz informs us that there is still a chance.

  • huntinbare

    Hey we got to 28…is that a possible positive

    • Scharfinator

      No, that rally with a loss only prolongs the decision of Bear’s ownership. 🙁

      • BerwynBomber

        Exactly. Those late points saved Tresty for another week at least.

        • SC Dave

          Worst of it, by far, is to allow all the retards to blame the defense for this loss.

          • huntinbare

            Mistakes and no discipline….clean the game up….play together as complete units and this game would have been close…we have to get our hearts back…lack of leadership = no heart…and it has translated to the play on the field all year

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I’m not going to dignify that fucking comment.

      • huntinbare

        We had a good 4th qtr. stretch to make it a game…but we need a 4 qtr. game…too many mistakes…the gods have punished us all season…no where to go but up…but HOW DO WE DO THAT?

        • SC Dave

          The offense failed utterly for 3/4s of the game. THAT is the story, not some garbage time scoring.

    • BearDown100393

      Actually for this team, it is. The offense did not quit, especially Bennett. Odd that the Bears held it together better as a team tonight than a lot of what has transpired here. Yowzers.

      • Scharfinator

        That’s a fair point. Maybe the actual interteam chemistry will survive the season.

      • SC Dave

        I left that shit show at the end of the 3rd Q, as I was out and needed to get home whilst reasonably sober. While it seems, for the first time in months, the offense did not quit, the real question is why were they SO FUCKING BAD before garbage time? Why is it, when the defense plays well in the first half, that the offense NEVER supports them by scoring points?

        I just dont get it. They are so NOT a TEAM. TEAMS pick each other up, and the Bears don’t do that.

        All the successful teams I was on did that from within, The PLAYERS did that. The coaches taught you about the game, but the PLAYERS made the team.

        The Bears just dont seem to have that. I kinda wish I”d seen the rest of the game, because maybe they showed a glimmer of it late tonight. So exactly how do they do it from the START of the game? That is what is needed.

  • BerwynBomber

    D sucked. O sucked (until it was too late). Black Uni and the pass protection were the high points. We also had a pass rush for most of the first half and then it disappeared.

  • huntinbare

    Did I hear the next passing touchdiwn against Tuckers D will set a new record for the futility record book?

    • BerwynBomber

      Yeah, but I think it was a Bears record. Not an NFL record.

      • huntinbare

        Tuckers D will be all over that negative Bears ledger

      • Scharfinator

        Oo, something to shoot for the end of the season!

    • SC Dave

      I’ve grown so tired of the complaints about the defense. They tried to keep us in the game in the first half. Shockingly, and for the first time I can remember in months, the offenses actually answered a score by the other team outside of garbage time. But that does not excuse the fact that in four possessions they did nothing to GET a lead.

      The GM banked on offense. And the offense is failing. Miserably.

      • huntinbare

        I think all phases have regressed this year…fir whatever reason

  • BerwynBomber

    Btw, Dallas is going nowhere. Their D still sucks.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    The team as a whole sucks…a few silver lining here and there, but we have to use that as potential draft picks for some and rebuild with a new coach if we want any semblance of a championship direction. Cutler is way too inconsistent but the entire team has too much fault going around, but most just naturally like to blame one guy or figurehead. Even with no interception and that was a score, Dallas would have ran the ball down our throats and we would have still need another march down the field on offenense.

    • BerwynBomber

      Jay didn’t play horribly but with a few minutes to go in the third Dallas had scored 35 points and we had scored 7. Sorry but when you have the highest paid QB in the league (at least for this year) and you’ve built the team around him and you are playing a rather crappy D … your signal caller has to produce more than a lone TD.

      But yes, there are huge problems team-wide.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        I feel like theres some weird “poison” going around the team and I feared that it would occur after the Lovie firing. Just hoped that it would have been cleansed out sooner than later

        • SC Dave

          Briggs *is* on IR. I’d kick his and Tillman’s and whoever elses “lovie-butthurt” asses out of the building. Let Willie and Jarred lead the defense now.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Urlacher cohosting on Mike and Mike today…that poisonous crap still spewing about the Bears

          • SC Dave

            Who is Urlacher? Does he play for the Bears?

          • burntorangenavyblue

            I think he is the ahole whose nickname should be Genghis Kahn if you know what I mean

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            i watched some of it this morning not all. He made some fair points, and really did not say anything that was flat out false. what did he say that you would concider poisonous crap?

      • Old broken romanian Jericho

        oh, you mean 9 minutes to go in the 3rd? it was the middle of the game. That’s what blocked punts, 80yd drives on 9 plays, converted 3rd and 19’s, fucking fumbles converted to TD’s, etc does. what they fuck dude

        • BerwynBomber

          It was 35-7 at the start of the 4th Q. WTF are you talking about? Were you watching the game?

          • SC Dave

            Clearly, BB, 7 points going into the 4th quarter was a sterling performance by Jay and the O! And the fact that the defense gave them the ball three (four?) times with the score 0-0 means the defense was entirely responsible for this loss.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            I was watching our D get raped, our guys kill drives with penalties and the QB getting blamed for it. Groy gets beat within .1 second of the snap to force a punt no one says shit, Ola holds on a converted 3rd down to Bennett on a beautiful play and no one says shit. Forte gets arm tackled all game and the line run blocks like vaginas all game to give him no support and no one says shit. Forte gets 3yds on dump offs because he doesn’t get depth and Murray gets fucking 7 and sometimes 12 and no one says shit.

            COLE BEASLEY??????????? are you fucking joking?
            Blocked punts? Blocked extra fucking points? And we’re talking about Cutler AGAIN??????

            The same lame comments about the Qb don’t play when the other shit happening is so fucking bad that NO QUARTERBACK EVER COULD DO ANYTHING. can Brady somehow transcend penalties? Brees can convince our shit OL not to hold? Backup running backs look like John Riggins compared to Forte?

            Jesus.

          • BerwynBomber

            Stop. You’re looking silly now. If Cutty was as good a QB as Forte is an RB, we would be printing playoff tickets. Matt had an off game. Marinelli decided to scheme toward him and dare Cutty beat them.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            absolutely not would we be printing playoff tickets. That is fucking outlandish.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            our D set records AGAIN. Gave up 230yds to one fucking dude. We got a punt blocked that gave them the short field, we got an extra point blocked. We gave up multiple 20yd RUNS!!!!! not even passes…fucking runs!

          • BerwynBomber

            Fair enough about the D but you’re still out of your mind to bash Forte.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            we can’t let him be bullet proof. He could easily get another yard or two or depth on most dump offs. Did you notice what the cowboys dump offs looked like tonight? MINIMUM of 5to 6yds depth on the route and falling forward = 7yds minimum.

            That’s drive changing shit right there. It’s brutal that it happens every time. People would have no problem with dump offs if they were 5yds or more and not the 3yd bullshit that Forte runs. Sometimes he breaks it and that’s great but why run a 3.5yd route on 3rd and 5? why get depth of 3yds when you can get 4 or 5 and have a fucking 3rd and 3 once in a fucking while?

            We get 3 to 4 and it doesn’t need to be that way. Forte got no help from the line because they suck cock at run blocking but was also caught up almost every time by one guy who got a hand on him. Murray made him look average today.

          • SC Dave

            I agreed until the end. The OLINE made him look average today.

            I’d take Forte over Murray without a second’s thought.

          • BerwynBomber

            That’s not on Forte. That’s on tendencies. Every team in the league should know our dump offs now. Marinelli schemed for it. Even Simms was in on that. No secret.

          • SC Dave

            Romo gets rushed, runs out of the pocket, and throws a perfect ball to a guy between ;layers of the defense for a TD. No excuse required.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Perfect? That was a bigger floater than what I left in the toilet tonight. Our secondary can’t cover shit.

          • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

            that was a great play by Romo all around. Great job avoiding Wilie Young with nobody to block him, pinpoint pass 35 yards downfield on the run.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            It looked like he punted it.

          • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

            that got it over the defender in front. Dropped from the sky between two defenders right into his receivers’ hands. He couldn’t have thrown that pass any better.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            You hardly have to do that to beat our coverage. It had more hang time than Podlesh.

          • BerwynBomber

            I think you just have to give Romo credit on that play. Short of a Revis or a Sherman, no DB is going to maintain lockdown coverage on a wideout on a broken, extended play like that. It was a lofted pass, sure, but it was perfectly placed. And for all of Romo’s flaws, the one thing he has done exceptionally well, even HoF well over the years, is improvise from a busted pocket.

        • Old broken romanian Jericho

          it’s like you guys didn’t even watch the game. They were ripping off 14 yds per screen, converting 3rd and 4th downs, multiple times

        • SC Dave

          No, we mean shitty throws, bad decisions, poor blocking, false starts, and myriad other fuckups that told the defense that despite multiple stops in a row in a scoreless game, the offense was doing NOTHING to help win.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            i want you to name the shitty throws in the beginning of the game that somehow stopped drives. Be careful. He was at 69% completion despite starting 2nd and 3rd downs with an average distance of 8-15 yds to go.

          • SC Dave

            68% does not get first downs. If I wasted money on that replay shit, there is no doubt I could point out two or three shitty throws in the first quarter. You don;t want me to have the all22 to show how many times Cutler fails to find open receivers.

            But none of that actually matters. You will, of course, never take the challenge to go actually LOOK at how pathetically bad the Bears offense has been in the first half this season. Closing on HISTORICALLY bad,

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            68% is top 2 in the league. 70% is HOF caliber. Rodgers caliber.

  • GPLDAN

    Doug and OB love this team.

    • huntinbare

      Yep…they want to blow this up…all the way to Emery…funny stuff though

    • Viva

      What’s not to love?

  • Viva

    This team has no soul.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I agree…reflects my “poison” comment earlier about the team. Weird how it rears its ugly head in the second year of the regime.

  • Viva

    Jay Cutler kept us in this game. Then he went to Josh Morgan instead of Martellus Bennet (who was being raped on his way to the end zone) and threw a pick. Bad decision, in an otherwise very good game.

    We can’t play D. They punted the ball twice.

    • BerwynBomber

      We can’t play much O either. We had 7 points by the time the fourth quarter started against a pretty crappy defense.

      Cutler was, at best, okay and mostly ineffectual until the game was out of reach.

      D sucked and got gashed but let’s be honest. We built this team around our QB and our O and it ain’t happening.

      • Old broken romanian Jericho

        No offense in the league could have outpaced the Packers, Patriots, Lions and Cowboys. Not possible.

        • BerwynBomber

          Maybe not but for all the money we dumped into this O I’d like to see more bang for the buck.

          • Viva

            Me too. Hence, Dave Toub for HC.

          • BerwynBomber

            Maybe but as bad as Trestman and company are I’m beginning to think the issues go beyond coaching.

          • SC Dave

            In the end, “playmakers” have to make plays. And ours ain’t

        • SC Dave

          Josh McCown would have won for us tonight. But we don’t have him this year, unfortunately.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Bwahahahaha

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            now i know you’re just fucking around.

      • Viva

        In other words: we were down one possession going into the half. Agreed. Then we turned the ball over, and our d got steamrolled.

        • BerwynBomber

          No, in other words our O put up a whopping seven points against a crappy D over the first three quarters of the game.

        • SC Dave

          STARTED BY THE OFFENSE TURNING THE BALL OVER.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            first score came from blocked punt

          • SC Dave

            Wasn’t it Forte’s fumble on our first possession?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Jay has no feel for long snapping.

          • SC Dave

            So, the fact that we had to punt was a problem with the defense?

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            huh?

        • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

          this team just quits at the first sign of adversity. It’s pathetic.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            is not having talented players on D the same as quitting?

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            our D line got worked, our LB’s sucked, our safeties were laughable, allen was invisible. our specials suck and allow extra points to be blocked.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            i’m being serious. I can’t tell when a guy quits or if he’s just outclassed.

          • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

            they somewhat held together in the first half. Then that TO comes and they gave up 3 TD in 10 minutes. Dallas ran all over them after that. The entire team did nothing in the 3rd quarter after that fumble. It was like they just accepted the loss in a 7 point game with an entire half left.

          • SC Dave

            This.

    • Old broken romanian Jericho

      Bennett was completely tackled

      • Viva

        That penalty was overlooked.

        • Old broken romanian Jericho

          and why did they have Alshon running that bullshit route instead of driving inside for a slant. He didn’t even run his route.

          • Viva

            Fuck if I know. How is the new job?

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            it was going well until i decided to jump on this site from my phone and got sucked into this pussy fest.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            lol, i’ll just jump off for another 4 or 5 days and will be ready for another round next week.

          • Viva

            roger that…

    • SC Dave

      I have to call bullshit again. GOD I hate this crap. The offense did nothing to get us a lead when the defense gave them the ball repeatedly in the first half of a 0-0 game.

  • Thegreatbeefness

    This is all I have to say… http://youtu.be/jgcP3U7CYFE

  • BerwynBomber

    Well, I assume mathematically we are now eliminated. Next week Brees and the Saints. Will be interesting to see if both Marshall and Bennett are available. Or for that matter Robbie G.

    • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

      they’re still technically in the hunt until DET or SEA wins on Sunday.

      DET is hosting TB.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        So you’re telling me there’s a chance.

  • Viva

    41…34…55…51…

    The last four times we’ve been beat, we did so giving up those numbers. This ain’t fucking college.

    • BerwynBomber

      Yep, the D is historically bad. Weird thing is they had a pass rush for most of the first half but then it all fell apart in the third Q. That TD with seconds to go before the half was deflating too.

      • Viva

        the 3rd and 15 conversion killed us. I was perplexed at the fact we did not dial up a blitz. It was an ideal time to do so.

        • huntinbare

          Me too…but we blitzed on 3rd and short later in that drive

        • BerwynBomber

          Yeah, that was a back-breaker on that drive. Btw, they split Young’s sack between him and Allen. I didn’t see Allen in that play at all. Seemed like all Willie.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          That’s tucker ‘ s MO. He absolutely has no idea what a blitz is. Leaves a bad to mediocre safety crew out to dry.

          • Viva

            Totally agree…How does he not know that when you apply pressure you force bad/quick throws that come up short on 3rd and 15…

          • Big Mike

            Tucker is not good. He either has a terrible scheme, or cannot communicate /coach it at all. His players look lost. The only time they look right, is on the most basic plays.

        • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

          I predicted that exact thing on Twitter pre-play. Said there would be a wide open target 18 yards downfield. Lo and behold…

          This team is predictable pathetic. Or pathetically predictable. However you want to look at it.

      • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

        they really didn’t have any pass rush all game outside of the occasional play here and there.

        • BerwynBomber

          I disagree. Romo looked rushed/harried until that last drive of the first half. We were creating a little chaos in their pocket. He was skittish until that 3rd and 15 and then seemingly pretty clear after that except for that one scramble TD to Beasely in the third, which was a big time play on Romo’s part.

    • Viva

      or the arena league…

    • SC Dave

      First half points scored 2014 for a team theoretically predicated on offense.
      7, 7, 17, 17, 21, 13, 0, 7, 0, 14, 0, 14, 7

      • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

        the Bears have been awful in all 3 phases this year.

    • SC Dave

      The last four times we won, we scored 27, 27, 21, 21,

  • Viva

    Waffle

    Please don’t scroll down and read Dave’s (“retard”) comment. You will abandon us again. Let me handle this.

    Dave – FUCK YOU for making that comment. Sober up – and apologize tomorrow, asshole.

    • SC Dave

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Don’t be coy, bitch.

        • SC Dave

          Whatever.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Lol ok.

      • Viva

        Is that your apology?

        • SC Dave

          Johnny knows better than to pursue this. Take a lesson, Ms. Manners.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Dave will start reading you chapters from “The Fountainhead” if you don’t stop. That may not annoy you, but it drives me bananas.

    • Old broken romanian Jericho

      i’m not going to get into it. I’m guilty too i guess. i called Butch a cunt when what i really meant was that his demeanor has been increasingly cuntish especially when using hashtags referencing Jay to a guy with 7td’s and 16int’s like bottles. it’s just lazy. it’s disrespectful and lazy to guys that have actual talent even though they aren’t playing up to their potential as a group.

      • SC Dave

        Maybe we are too enamored of “potential” Johnny. And so we get too frustrated. Maybe they’re just not any good. Defense or offense.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Soft, Passionless&Clueless’14

        Cuntish for pointing out that Cutler is in a neck and neck race fir turnovers w a rookie jag qb? How about Cutler stops turning it over, and I’ll stop bringing it up?
        I think it’s cuntish always blaming everyone but Cutler.
        Btw, if Eli was our qb I’d be saying the same. Can’t turn it over at qb esp when the d is nit stout.,
        But therein lies the rub.
        We either get constipated checkdown Cutler who stalls offenses.
        Or cutthroat badger chucking it into double coverage, badly, like w that int

        • Old broken romanian Jericho

          it’s the handle and the hashtags and the laziness that gets me. Why even bother?

          You simply can’t believe that Cutler stalls this offense. i won’t allow it. You can’t be that obtuse. It’s not possible. The crushing idiotic penalties, the 2yd runs, etc
          Jay threw the only INT of the game on the last play of an 80yd drive with 1:15 left. it wan’t double coverage, it was fucking zone and Scandrick made a good play to get underneath it. Alshon loafed on his fade route, Bennett got fucking tackled, etc. you do know that other things happen on the field during a play right?

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Soft, Passionless&Clueless’14

            Ur telling me that Cutler hasn’t stalled our o this entire year with all those turnovers and checkdowns?
            Tonight he dud ok esp when the cowboys essentially went prevent.
            But then he did what he does best and threw a boneheaded int when it mattered.
            He didn’t like the play unfoldung? Throw it into the stands
            But whatevs. U still think we can win with Cutler and I don’t. No amount of personnel or coaching or scheme will prevent him from turning it over or making idiotic decisions. That’s what I’ve concluded. But we’ll be stuck w him for two more years likely, so what does it matter?

          • Big Mike

            Until a better option is presented Cutler is a decent QB. Stop waiting for elite, and you’d be happy with him. He’s better than Orton ever was, better than Grossman, better than McNown, better than 15 other guys in the NFL right now. He could be good. He has good to very good within reach. The whole team is a cluster fuck right now. I wish Cutler was Rodgers too, but he’s not. When I accepted that he’d never reach those heights, I saw a guy who didn’t suck. But was just a decent qb, prone to make mind rattling errors and great plays.

          • BerwynBomber

            Forget the Rodgers/Cutler comparisons. They’re ridiculous. And yes, I agree: Jay is better than either Orton or Grossman. The problem is a) how much better, and b) his contract.

          • Big Mike

            His contract is big. But replacement cost on QBs is outrageous. The only way to win that game is to luck out on a rookie. Then you’ve got 4 years before you have to pay. The QB treadmill is an absolute crap shoot. Free Agent’s cost way more than they are worth. BTW, I’m not happy Cutler, or dreaming about his potential. This was his year to shine and the whole thing blew up.

            The only solace is knowing that very little that happens this year, impacts next year. Just like very little that happened last year impacted this year.

    • BerwynBomber

      Are you, Waffle’s bodyguard? The Olin Kreutz of the DBB?

      • Old broken romanian Jericho

        i wish my old romanian missile system still worked. i’d fire one off at your dirty, dilapidated berwyn bungalow.

        • BerwynBomber

          Well, given that you’d probably take after your hero, I’m guessing said missile would be intercepted or hit a house two streets over.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            lol, that was actually funny.

          • BerwynBomber

            Well, end of the day … all in good fun.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Hah!!!

  • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

    On the bright side: this was possibly the best offensive showing all year.

    On the down side: this wasn’t really a good offensive showing.

    • Viva

      Honestly, I liked Dallas’ game plan. They got off the bus running…and they ran pretty fucking well.

      • SC Dave

        Did you see the graphic on their Oline? Three first round draft picks. We tried that … Williams, Carimi, Long. Well, I suppose we got one.

        So Forte had 26 yards on 13 carries when I went home, Not the best of averages.

        • BerwynBomber

          Actually Dallas whiffed on a few over the years too. Jones’s track record in the draft hasn’t been above reproach.

  • BerwynBomber

    Here is a funny or scary thought (depending upon your attitude). But are a lot of these points being rung up on us when Conte is out of the game?

    • SC Dave

      Don’t mention that, BB. The simpleton “Conte sucks” meme could be disrupted by that.

      • Old broken romanian Jericho

        Cole Beasley.

        • Old broken romanian Jericho

          not saying it was all Conte but it was bad. Someone needs to be held accountable for guys lining up 7yds in the end zone, covering no one 7yds in the end zone, letting UFA’s catch 2 TD’s like they are all pro’s

          • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

            when the entire defense is doing that, starters and backups, I don’t know how you can hold anybody but the coaches accountable.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            like fucking hit witten off the line just once so he just doesn’t convert a 3rd and 8 like he’s reading the morning paper.

          • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

            or a 3rd and 15, for that matter

          • SC Dave

            A pass rush would help maybe, but I share your frustration.

          • Big Mike

            They play like they aren’t coached at all. Special Teams, Defense, Offense. It looks like a pick up squad. Undisciplined, constantly out of position on defense, special teams can’t block, kick or tackle.. WTF

          • BerwynBomber

            If you’re talking Beasley’s second TD I can’t get on Conte (or for that matter any DB) for that. That was about Romo’s spin and scramble — the one thing he has done throughout his career where he has looked like an HOFer. Anyway, no one but the Revises or the Sherman’s of the world are going to be hold lock-down coverage on an extended ad-lib like that. Especially a safety like Conte.

  • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

    I liked what I saw from Christian Jones tonight. Makes some mistakes, but he also jumps out for good reasons. You can accept mistakes from a rookie learning the ropes.

    He’s like Shea McClellin (great size/speed combo for a LB), only one who’s not afraid of contact and understands how to play football.

    • BerwynBomber

      Black Uni and the O-line’s pass protection stood out. I don’t know if much was done on Jennings either but would have to watch the tape.

      • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

        yeah, I think what we saw tonight is how dependent Cutler is on good pass protection. He’s been very skiddish in the pocket for most of the season (with good reason), and it really messes him up. He was that way most of the first half, but settled in some in the 4th quarter after not getting hit much through 3.

        Not a coincidence that his best season as a Bear came last year, which also happened to be the only time he had a decent OL.

        • BerwynBomber

          Yeah, but it still (at best) only leads to slightly above average QB play which is a huge problem considering all the investment in Cutty and his toys.

          • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

            anybody ever expecting him to be elite was out of their minds.

          • BerwynBomber

            Agreed. I was for the franchise tag or even letting him walk and paying an Orton or someone of that stripe to hold the fort down if there was a QB they liked in the draft. Building a team around Cutler seemed foolish to me. But oh well. It is what it is at this point. I suspect we will ride it out for another year.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            on other teams they’re just called Wr’s and Te’s but on the Bears somehow they’re special toys and it’s somehow Cutlers fault that we have good players at those positions.

          • Old broken romanian Jericho

            i mean god forbid if we have fucking talent like other teams at specialty game changing positions like WIDE RECEIVER, TIGHT END and RUNNING BACK.

      • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

        and I love the fire Martellus Bennett plays with. It also unfortunately leads to a lot of big hits and injuries.

        • Old broken romanian Jericho

          i feel like he gets hurt sometimes because he’s always trying to avoid contact and get’s tangled up trying to dance. Sometimes it’s better to use your pads and momentum to just ride it to the ground and save your ankles and knees from guys dragging and riding up on legs.

          • SC Dave

            And maybe just use his size to pound the smaller guys into the turf. At least early in the game. Then do the YAC crap later when they are trying to protect themselves rather that hit Marty.

            On the other hand, maybe he’s trying to do his thing to put that fire Data mentioned in the offense. They need it. The whole team needs it.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            totally agree on the first part. he should hit em hard early. make them think twice about tackling him again. hesitation will allow his dancing moves to be that much more effective later in the game

  • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

    Also saw some good things out of Ryan Groy when he came in to replace Ola in the 3rd. Horrible first series, but was solid after that. Mainly liked his attitude. Loved how he rammed Forte into the end zone on that 2 point conversion. Seemed to have a bit of an edge on that play like I only see out of Kyle Long from the OL.

    • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

      I don’t think Groy ever becomes an NFL starter, but I like him as an interior reserve who can play G or C (he’s the backup C now, I believe).

    • Viva

      He was playing to play again. Scrappy. I like it.

    • Big Mike

      Have to look for positives somewhere. Might need to shave the mustache.. .

  • Big Mike

    Well the pressure is off 5-11 here we come. No tanking, it’s just inevitable. The only thing to discuss is whether or not Emery should stay.

    • Trac

      It is possible for the Bears to win a bid to join the CFL? Cause what I’ve been watching these past 13 weeks is not an NFL caliber football team.

      • Big Mike

        There are worse teams in the NFL. But none spiraling as badly as the Bears. I’m passed being pissed off about it, passed being disappointed, last night took me passed embarrassed, now I alternate between feeling bad for the players and enjoying how pathetic they look.

        I’m a company man when it comes to the Bears. Support the regime etc. I’m not a guy who yelps when a player makes a mistake, or a guy who calls for a coordinator’s head after a loss. But Trestman and crew have to go.

        1) He’s a terrible, terrible leader (that should be enough)

        2) He’s getting less out of his talent, rather than more (which is really the only job of a coaching staff – whether it be motivation, scheme, teaching technique, and so on)

        3) His play calling is bewildering
        4) His so called route tree is limited and simple to solve.

        5) He looks stupid.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Emery is Bears best asset. What kind of question is that ?
      If anything this season should mean more power to Emery, rather than less or none. And he needs help dealing with his weaknesses. He either changes his good guy ways or hires a HC that does that.

      • Big Mike

        It is the only question remaining. Trestman and his staff are a complete disaster. They absolutely must go. I put the question of Emery staying or going, to hear opinions. I’m nearly positive he will stay, but should he?

        Like you, I believe he should stay.

        I’m interested in the conversation..

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          the conversation does no good. It’s polluted.

          • Big Mike

            I don’t understand. This is a place for informed discussion about all things Chicago Bears.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            “Because he picked Trestman. And his drafts are a C+”

            Did you say informed ?

          • Big Mike

            I believe there is more informed discussion here than elsewhere. Yes. Your opinion is that his drafts are a C+. Mine is that they are better than that.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I was quoting another man’s post. I disagree with those statements, at least in part.

          • Big Mike

            I get it.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            question for you Big Mike: do you think Emery had free choice in choosing any head Coach he wanted or did he have free choice in choosing any Lovie like Head Coach ?

            I find it so much of a strange coincidence the Bears hired a Lovie like HC after 8 years of Lovie 1.0 that I think you can’t ignore it. It’s an obvious 10 year pattern and Emery had nothing to do with the first 80 % of it.

          • Big Mike

            Trestmann and Lovie Smith are nothing alike. Lovie Smith excelled at all aspects of being a head coach, with the gigantic exception of offense. Before you dismiss this. There are quite a few things a head coach is responsible for Special Teams, Defense, Leadership, Motivation, Character, etc. Smith was also crippled by Jerry Angelo. Now before you think I’m just a revisionist, I also thought it was time for him to go, because he was never going to get the Bears back to the Superbowl.

            Trestman has excelled at nothing. Maybe he’s better at managing the Chicago Media..

            To answer your question, I think like any high level hire, Emery was accountable to his bosses. So the answer is no I don’t think he had 100% free choice. I don’t think the guidelines were to be “Lovie like”

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Understanding how a clock works…also not a strength of Lovie.

          • BearDown100393

            He seemed confused when to throw that challenge flag also.

          • Big Mike

            Overblown stat. Look it up.

          • BearDown100393

            Not necessarily just a stat for “wins/losses” on challenges but when and during what circumstances. It goes with clock management. And that gets compromised when timeouts are gone because of futile challenge reviews. Might of seemed even worse at the time because of O-Line false start penalties, delay of game, etc.

          • Big Mike

            Bigger problem was the Bears offense had no margin for error. What I remember is that after he had a couple bad challenges within a few week time span, it became something for fans to focus on.

          • Big Mike

            Under the category of offense…

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Lovie=Trestman=losers.
            Lovie Smith excelled at all aspects of being a head coach, with the gigantic exception of offense, meritocracy and the constant firing of assistants.
            His system was a Defense that had 4-5 sets every game and horrible Offense by design.
            He’s the dude that after his 7th year as the HC lets Greg Olsen leave and goes with Kellen Winslow. That’s bad 101. That’s so bad on the Offense, Leadership, Motivation, Character traits you can’t ever convince me otherwise.
            He wasn’t just bad at offense, he was damaging to the offense. He was constantly selling out the O in order to keep the D on the highroad. He traded Cutler’s favorite weapon and close fiend so that everybody understood Urlacher is still the Man, not the puffy QB.
            I don’t think Trestaman would ever sell his team in order to keep his job. He didn’t do it with Tucker. So maybe Lovie was a slightly better HC, but he was much more of a cunt as a man… so they’re at the same level when you count everything.

          • Big Mike

            You and I will disagree forever. Hindsight is perfect vision. Olsen was let go because he hired Mike Martz, because nobody else would take the job. No need for Olsen in that offense. Olsen’s good, but he’s not that good. Lovie Smith is not a loser. He didn’t sell out the offense. He simply believed you could win on special teams and defense. Angelo sold out the offense with terrible picks. Bad luck messed up the offense with Carimi and Columbo both washing out for the Bears.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Olsen was the best reviver the Bears had, period. The fact no other OC would take the job, the fact that the best reviver wasn’t part of the ‘new’ offense… aren’t these signs of the weak ass HC he was ?
            Usually a HC in his 7th year has a certain level of power. Lovie had that…blaming Angelo is naive.

            What does ‘hindsight’ have to do with anything ? These were known fact from the beginning.. and you can see them in Tampa now. He’s going to end up with a worst record than last year… a total disaster year for the Bucs all around. Worst record than last year’s Schiano Bucs ? Are you fucking kidding me ? After all that cash spent this offseason.

          • Big Mike

            The Bears needed an Offensive Coordinator. They chose Martz. BTW Cutler had one of his better years with Martz without many weapons. Maybe taking away the audible was right. They were 18-8 with Martz while Cutler was healthy. So maybe that wasn’t such a bad choice. When I refer to Angelo it is based on him having the final say in the draft. Sure Lovie had input. Maybe quite a bit. But Angelo stocked the team with guys who underperformed vs their draft slot for the last 5-6 years he was there. One theory is that the Bears got caught fighting the natural rebuilding process trying to squeeze more time out of what they had.

            Naive is not a word that you can use when discussing football with me. I’ve seen more, done more and analyzed more than you can hope to. So just cool it with the self righteous all knowing act.

            We will disagree on Lovie Smith. He is an exceptional leader and a very good football coach. Something the Bears do not have right now.

          • Ginny

            He’s a Patriots fan ….

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I’m a Patriots supporter. I like the NFL as a hole, so I have to root for somebody in the playoffs. It’s not like the Bears qualify for that stage more than once every 5 years.

            Being a Patriots supporter gives me an edge. I understand how elite clubs do it. I also am a fan of other elite clubs in other sports, so I’m pretty informed.

          • Big Mike

            Who is?

      • Trac

        Glad to see you’re back barb cause I was beginning to think you’d had to sell off all your assets to cover your patriots bet.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Fuck you… you spoiled brat.

          • Trac

            You are a complicated man.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            just having some well intended fun. don’t go asking your priest for forgiveness. save it for serious stuff.

          • Trac

            You are a wild and crazy guy.

    • BearDown100393

      Should he? IMO the answer is no. Not if a fire sale is inevitable. Will he stay though? Yes.

      • Big Mike

        I absolutely think Emery will stay. I also think he should stay. Emery’s done a B to B+ job drafting. I think he’s improved in each of his 3 drafts. He seems to have a very methodical approach.

        The question is whether or not he should. Why do you think he should go?

        • GPLDAN

          Because he picked Trestman. And his drafts are a C+.

          • Big Mike

            Those are good reasons. I think his drafts are better than a C+ and getting better as the Bears can be less one-sided in the draft.

            The corner has been turned, this is now a team that is rebuilding. I think Cutler is here for the next 2-3 years with diminished expectations.

          • BerwynBomber

            Don’t forget the Cutty decision. That and the Tresty hire are PE’s two biggest decisions as GM.

          • BearDown100393

            Failed to mention that Cutler point. He should have been franchised tagged. No question.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            That’s not true. If you want to criticize Emery for how he handled the Cutler thing do it for the money he paid, not for the contract per se.
            You can’t franchise. You do that you lose control. You have to sign him to a contract, it’s the only way to have options.

        • BearDown100393

          I simply do not trust Phil Emery. He took the job contingent upon keeping Lovie Smith as Head Coach. That arrangement is handcuffing, undermining the position and soft. It is a show of submission to ownership. Why bother firing Jerry Angelo in the first place, if the successor is not free to make the changes he/she seeks fit? That was the 1st warning shot over the bow for me. As for drafting, that 1st year is not stellar – McClellin, Jeffery, Hardin, Rodriguez, Frey and McCoy. The jury is out for the next 2 years. Drafting O’Donnell is not looking too hot a decision right now. So for 3 drafts, the Bears have Jeffery, Long and Fuller. The rest are up in the air. Depth on the team has not improved but horribly regressed. The Trestman hire is indicting on judgment. Double downing on the vote of confidence in the coaching staff is even dumber and an acknowledgment that saving face and job preservation are prioritized over winning. The Bruce Arians interview process was farcial. Saddling the coaching staff with Mel Tucker was absurd. Firing Phair and Tibesar after last season and sparing Tucker the axe looks even worse. George McCaskey brayed about a new era of winning and accountability. How can that be possible, if Emery is spared and everyone below is (deservedly) axed? It can’t. Doesn’t really matter though as all will be back for another kick at the cat next season. And it will be at our expense yet again.

          • Big Mike

            These are all exceptional points. I believe his drafts are improving a great deal. The 1st draft had Lovie Smith and desperation written all over it, no? So much attention is paid to McClellin, thanks for reminding me how shitty the back half of that draft was.. SMH.. But still, I see Lovie there… Trying to get back to the mountain and save their jobs. 10-6 wasn’t horrible. But Emery didn’t want Lovie so he was able to get rid of him after a redshirt year as GM.

            By your standard, nobody will be the right GM until the team changes ownership.

            I don’t agree with you that depth has not improved. The last 2 offseasons (draft and FA) rebuilt the offense .. which for some reason blew up this year. Brought in nice parts for the defense. Some of which have worked beyond expectation, some of which have not. My opinion is that the talent is there. It has simply been mismanaged (coaching). The Bears have 6 LBs I think at some point they are all playing out of their natural positions. At least is seems like that. Who the fuck does that? Oh wait, I know a leaderless, gutless coaching staff.

            Mostly I agree with everything you said. Arians, Tucker, Phair, Tibesar, But I like Phil Emery. Mind you I’m not putting a campaign sign for him in my yard. Quality GMs aren’t just sitting out there.

            My hope is this shit bomb of a season, loosens the Mcaskey’s grip on Emery and he can continue to develop into a top GM.

          • BearDown100393

            I think you nailed it with the (surmising) comment regarding ownership/Phillips (?) meddling with GM responsibilities. And IMO, it is meddling setting a condition such as keeping Smith. Whether a coach stays or goes should be the GM’s decision. The reality is that an accurate gauge for GM quality may not possible.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Do you know how I know that first draft reeks of Lovie, Frey and Rodriguez now play for the Buccaneers and Hardin and McClellin are prototypical “Lovie” guys. Phil had his hands tied in that draft. The 2013 draft looked better in year 1, but those guys (aside from Long) are just experiencing a sophomore slump (which I believe is what is happening to Trestman). The 2014 draft looks good so far too. Emery should definitely be retained, Trestman should maybe be retained, Kromer and the rest of the Offensive staff can stay. Tucker has to go, bring in Wade Phillips and let’s see how this thing goes down.

          • Big Mike

            I knew Frey was there. But that puke Evan Rodriguez is still in the league. WTF. The sophomore slump for players, playing without leadership is not surprising. They need to know how to act. Alshon (who is a 3rd year guy, but he missed his entire first year), has Brandon. Say what you will, but Brandon Marshall is a quality individual, mentor and player.
            Bostic and Greene are out of position and poorly coached. Jordan Mills is performing way above expectations Cornelius Washington is showing signs of being better than a 6th round pick. Marques Wilson is a pure bonus if he’s on the field.

            You are optimistic about Trestman having a sophomore slump. More accurately, Trestman had a Freshman splash and is regressing to the mean. Look at these stats courtesy of Sports Mockery.

            1998 Arizona Cardinals – #13 in total yards, #15 in points scored
            1999 Arizona Cardinals – #29 in total yards, #30 in points scored
            2002 Oakland Raiders – #1 in total yards, #2 in points scored
            2003 Oakland Raiders – #25 in total yards, #26 in points scored
            2013 Chicago Bears – #8 in total yards, #2 in points scored
            2014 Chicago Bears – #20 in total yards, #21 in points scored
            Here’s the entire article with 7 red flags that were ignored when the Bears hired Trestman

            http://sportsmockery.com/2014/12/7-red-flags-chicago-bears-ignored-hiring-marc-trestman/5/

          • Big Mike

            BTW, great catch on Rodriguez..

  • Viva

    Dave Toub for HC.

  • BerwynBomber

    So here is one semi-logical/semi-twisted reason for retaining both Tresty and PE for 2015. Maybe Phillips and higher brass know they were a big mistake but because of the restrictive nature of some player personnel contracts they also know that no huge, wholesale changes can’t be made until 2016. Hence, give Tresty and PE one last year, but short of an NFC title game appearance, blow the whole thing up in ’16 and let a new GM build a team from virtual scratch.

    • BearDown100393

      Emulate Tarkin. Blow up Alderaan now. Fire when ready.

      • BerwynBomber

        Can I interest you in a Mike Shanahan Loves Jay Cutler two-year HC contract?

        • BearDown100393

          Who is the GM?

    • Big Mike

      Interesting. Trestman has to go. If he stays, don’t they have to extend him? Coaches never get to the last year of their contracts.. If Trestman doesn’t go, we are left grasping at straws and your position becomes the only one that Bears fans can hang onto. Basically, you’re saying its a 2 years search for a GM. Because I can’t think of how Trestman takes this team to the NFC title game.

      • BerwynBomber

        I’m not supporting the thinking. I was only trying to figure out (potentially) one side of it.

        • Big Mike

          Understood. It’s an awful situation. Trestman has to go. Or else we’re the 2011 Cubs, looking at 5 years of fuck all.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yep, Cubs have Wrigley and the world’s largest beer garden (Wrigleyville) to get away with it. Otherwise, 99% of other professional sports franchises can’t tell their fan base (or the media) to sit tight for ten years while the new regime’s plan goes into effect. It’s a tremendous luxury.

          • Big Mike

            The Bears have a similar luxury. Smallest stadium in the NFL, Biggest Market for one team in the NFL. Per seat, the Bears have a potential fan base of 153 people. NY is second,they have a potential fan base of 114.

  • Big Mike

    Here’s a new game. What can Trestman possibly say today at his press conference that wouldn’t piss you off? I can’t think of anything…

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