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Chris Borland & Four Other Non-First Round Draft Prospects Who Tickle My Fancy [VIDEOS]

| May 1st, 2014

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Chris Borland, ILB, Wisconsin

  • If Borland did not have serious medical concerns surrounding the possibility of a third surgery, I truly believe he could have snuck his way into the tail end of the first round.
  • His size draws comparisons to Zach Thomas and that is EXACTLY who he plays like. There is not a linebacker in this draft who does a finer job at sniffing out the ball carrier and closing on him. When you watch Borland, you see a man born to play middle linebacker. And born middle linebackers belong in Chicago.
  • ESPN’s Brian Bennett did a brilliant profile of Borland in October. One of my favorite quotes: There are times when he’ll make a big play at practice, and then as he’s jogging back, he’ll do a backflip,” defensive coordinator Dave Aranda said. “That’s Chris.” Read the entire profile by CLICKING HERE.
  • Borland’s style of play suggests that even if he struggled at LB he could be one of the best special teams men in the sport.
  • From a human perspective, a rooting perspective, there is not a player in this draft I’d be happier to see in a Bears uniform.

De’Anthony Thomas, RB/WR/KR, Oregon

  • Bears have three “offensive production” needs: Forte backup/scat back, speed threat on the outside and kick returner. Thomas fills all three needs with one body. (Though I’m not sure how many carries I’d give him.)

  • That body is not particularly big and I’d have concerns about him holding up over the course of an NFL season but the Bears would have the luxury of using Thomas in specific situations and not every offensive down.
  • Thomas is one of those players that makes me question the weight put on the Combine and Pro Days. (Thomas and pretty much every other player.) He ran 4.39 at his Pro Day and 4.5 at the Combine. For a guy who is dependent almost entirely on his speed that is somewhat insane.
  • Thomas is a toy. He could end up being those amazing WWF action figures with the plastic ring that occupied years of my childhood. He could also end up being Mousetrap, wherein you spend an hour setting up a game that – let’s face it – sucks.

Watch the cut at the :33 mark.

Demarcus Lawrence, Pass Rusher, Boise State

  • Phil Emery is a scout at heart and scouts tends to keep their eyes in a particular geographic location. We know Emery has spent some time watching Boise and that’s why I think Lawrence is legitimately in play for the Bears in the first few rounds.
  • Here is the breakdown of his weaknesses from CBS Sports:While quick, does not appear to have the preferred straight-line speed for linebacker and does not possess the bulk normally associated with defensive linemen, making him a potential ‘tweener in the eyes of some teams. Struggles to break free once blockers grab hold of his chest plate. Only average balance. Too often gets tripped up and knocked to the ground. Moved around a lot in Boise’s scheme, presenting him with advantageous match-ups.”
  • But here is the next line: COMPARES TO: Jason Babin, Jacksonville Jaguars – Like Babin, Lawrence projects nicely as a LEO defensive end due to his burst, length, tenacity and surprising strength.” With the current make up of Bears defensive ends, a pass rushing-specific left end is EXACTLY what they are lacking if you believe, as I do, Houston will be slid inside on third-and-longs.
  • I understand the competition Lawrence faced is not comparable to the SEC but 20 sacks and 34 tackles for loss over two seasons is PRODUCTION. And when it comes to second and third-round picks, I’m looking for a guy who has made plays at the collegiate level.

This is just one game but look at the versatility and persistent motor of this guy.

Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU

Like most trainers, Marucci spends a lot of time around the players, probably more than most coaches. And given that Mettenberger’s now working back from a torn ACL (and the ensuing reconstructive surgery) aftershredding his left knee in the Tigers’ regular-season finale, Marucci’s spent even more time around the quarterback.

He’s sold. So are others in the program. They’ve seen the kid go from shaggy-haired party animal with a bad reputation to tough, battle-tested team leader.

Yes, Mettenberger still needs to shake his head every few minutes to keep the mop top from blocking his vision. Most everything else has changed.

“It really came down to thinking about what I wanted in life,” Mettenberger said in early April, a day beforeputting on a pro-day display that proved he’d made a quantum leap in coming back from the surgery. “I wanted to be a great quarterback in the NFL. You can’t do that being at the bars every night of the week. I sat down and thought about my priorities and what’s important to me. And I knew what I needed to sacrifice. I’ve done that.”

  • (In that Mettenberger quote you will find the signature clue as to why I am not a great quarterback in the NFL.)
  • Here’s the Jeff Hughes phrase that pays: Mettenberger is Mallett without the Mistakes.
  • Here is why I love Mettenberger as a potential Bears QB, as stated by Mike Mayock:

“Without the injury, I still don’t think he’s going to be a first- or second-round pick,” NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock said. “I think what he is  and what worries me a little bit on tape is I think he stares down some of his intended receivers, I think the ball comes out late sometimes. He’s not a guy that I think can start Day 1 in the NFL anyway.

“So, if you ask me how much it would impact him, the injury, I don’t think quite as much as you might think on the surface, because I do believe he’s got a lot of learning to do. I like his size, I like his ability and I like his arm strength. It’s more just a matter of his footwork, being more consistent with the ball, his feet being lined up, getting the ball out and some of the reads he makes. I think he just doesn’t get the ball out quickly enough and I think that’s something that a young quarterback has got to develop.”

  •  You can’t teach size. You can’t teach arm strength. But reading the field effectively and getting the ball out on time are quite literally Marc Trestman’s two signature strengths as a QB whisperer. Mettenberger, under Trest’s tutelage, could be the starting quarterback of the Chicago Bears in three years and a valuable backup long before that.

If I don’t see pro-style throws when I watch a QB play, I have no idea what to evaluate. Mettenberger makes a million of them.

Martavis Bryant, WR, Clemson

  • Gigantic (6’5-211) and fast as hell (4.42 at Combine).
  • Drops way too many passes and those drops become eyebrow-raising because he’s quite often yards clear of the nearest defender when he drops the ball.
  • Needs to be molded and is there a better head coach/receivers room in the league for that molding to take place?
  • Downside is he’s a dud. But you have to take shots on talents especially in the middle rounds.
  • Upside is he develops into a faster version of Plaxico Burress, without the gun tucked into his sweatpants.

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  • gpldan from Eastern Front
  • Bear Down in Tampa
    • MB30SD

      that’s a smokescreen of a smokescreen. Whatever.

  • MB30SD

    Interesting that they have mosely at 7 before evens!? (put it back in your pants trac)

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20140501/2014-nfl-draft-top-100-prospects/?eref=sihp

    • my prediction is that Mosley and Donald come off the board at 7 and 8 in some order.

      • MB30SD

        reeeaaally?

        Ok, so who do we think will DEF be off the board before 14 (obviously it’s all guessing right now, but…). In no particular order:

        1. Clowney
        2. Manziel
        3. Bridgewater
        4. Mathews
        5. Robinson
        6. Mack
        7. Barr
        8. Evans
        9. Watkins

        The second tier:

        * Donald
        * Dix
        * Pryor
        * Gilbert
        * Bortles?
        * Mosely
        * Dennard

        The link I posted earlier: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20140501/2014-nfl-draft-top-100-prospects/ has Pryor now above Dix (in ranking not projected draft order). Interesting.

        Depending on how this goes down, we could potentially have a shot at dix, pryor, gilbert, and donald at 14. Man, going to be an exciting, up and down draft. Can’t wait.

        • TB and MIN both have new defensive-minded coaches. I think TB goes Mosley, because Lovie loves his LBs and builds his defense around them. Then I think Donald goes to MIN, because Zimmer loves Atkins and can get Atkins 2.0 there.

          • MB30SD

            ok so in that scenario we get dix, pryor or gilbert. Boom!

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

            And do what then? I’d go 1. Gilbert 2. Bucannon 3. J. Ellis

            The rest is gravy.

          • MB30SD

            Dude, we have 2 PRO BOWL cbs that we JUST paaaaiiid to be on the roster!!! TWO!!!

            and Chris fucking cunte… and you want to go Gilbert if dix and/or pryor are there for the taking?!?!

            Dude, you driva me afucking acrazy!!!!!

            Get easly or tuitt in 2 and a decent cb in 3. That’s how our needs are lined up AND how draft depth is too… tell me what I’m missing maings. Please.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

            I know, I know. But Peanut is the glass corner and we shouldn’t wait until his wheels fall off before drafting his replacement (see Brian Urlacher). For me, if we have Gilbert, then Bucannon is just as sweet an addition. We get the FS next year if needs be. Draft good players when you can get them. We mightn’t be in position to draft a top corner next year.

          • MB30SD

            I don’t mind that plan except that you’re leaving our 2nd most critical gap for the 3rd AND using your first early first in years on a position that’s technically not a gap this year? Too risky for my blood.

            I’d much rather go with my strategy and then pick up an extra corner when stuff starts shifting with other teams as the season starts. There’ll bed tons of guys dropping out of ether teams that we can pick up.

            You just don’t send your #14 like that. You go get your franchise player at the position that’s been a league joke for 10 years. Take care of bidniz maings

          • CanadaBear

            Glass corner? He’s missed 22 games in 11 years!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

          That leaves us Mosely or Dennard, unless a surprise or another QB is thrown out there, at which point we should certainly trade down and get another pick for free.

          • MB30SD

            Naw maing. Dix or pryor will be there. No way both go pre 14. No way.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

            But if we go with one of them, how good is the CB going to be? I like the idea of getting Bucannon in the second after we lockdown Gilbert, and then take a chance on a guy like Ellis. Three defensive needs taken care of.

          • el_caney

            I found a problem of what you want, even joking Buchannon won´t last till 51. carved in stone.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

            If we trade down in the first we can get him in the second, if not from 31st.

      • I hope Mosley gets drafted before us. Means other guys will fall to us. Plus, even though I have my reservations about Mosley, I’d still rather not see him in a Pack uni.

  • gpldan from Eastern Front

    ‘Twas nice to see Alan Ford, best known as Brick Top in Snatch, pay tribute to Bob Hoskins. Said that he got many of the ideas on how to play a mob boss from Hoskins, when he played one of Hoskins men in the The Long Good Friday. Good flick, that one.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081070/

    RIP Bob. Dustin Hoffman and Gene Hackman and others do not have careers w/o guys like Bob.

  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

    Hope Borland does well. If he can stay healthy he could be a Keuchly type player. Nose for the ball, solid tackler, great overall football instincts.
    Down sides: injury history, skin color

    • MB30SD

      Yonny, my maingses… he looks solid, maybe even a better bostic, but in the same range.

      Want to see something that will blow your mind? Check out the 5ish steps up luke K is… look at these fucking combine numbers. My god that dude is a football machine. 4.59 40 (3rd fastest safety 40 this year), 27 bench, 38″ vert. damn dude. he’s a MONSTER. the only event he didn’t best in was the bench, and that was only be a couple reps. hotdamn!

      http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/luke-kuechly?id=2533056

      Btw, skin color. Hee hee… careful or you’ll have Rev. sharpton calling you!

      • MB30SD

        btw, check out his ‘weaknesses’ section. It’s the most positive one I’ve ever read. Basically, it said there are no weaknesses except that he shouldn’t be expected to play nosetackle. Hahahaha

        WEAKNESSES
        The major knock on Kuechly is that he had a lot of “inflated” tackle production throughout his career, the idea being that he is indeed a superb tackler but most of those tackles came 5 to 8 yards downfield in pursuit. He didn’t get up into the line of scrimmage to make powerful, impactful plays much, and won’t be relied upon as a pass rusher at the next level and is strictly a tackling, sideline-to-sideline backer.

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        I keep on forgetting how fucking huge and fast Keuchly is. He has great instincts and he’s a huge linebacker.

        • MB30SD

          the dude is a 10+ year monster who should be HOF is he keeps getting better.

          We didnt have the capability 2 (?) years ago to do it, but he’s a guy you seel your draft out to get. I know dave and I were HUGE proponents, but we just weren’t in a position to make a play for him.

          He’d be the next great CHitown LB.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            I was looking at that top 100 list and there does look to be some nice DT/DE/OLB depth into even round 3.
            This is going to be interesting. Why is this draft taking for fucking ever?

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

            If we’re not brainwashed into thinking we need some small nifty 3T there are some big bastards with reputations out there for us in the third.

          • MB30SD

            Or the second. .. but the same can be said for cb in the 3rd

          • SC Dave

            That was SOOO what I was hoping for. The perfect heir to one of the premier positions in all of football, MLB in Chicago.

          • MB30SD

            I know. wasn’t the time dave. Angelo and lovie rapped us for 10 years. We’re just starting to recover now… see corm’s post above

          • SC Dave

            True, but of all positions on defense for which I’d take the best player in the league, it would be mlb. By a *huge* margin. The only thing remotely close is rde or rolb (blindside pass rusher)

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

            Yup, two players I would have sold my draft for at the time were Kuechly and Suh.

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        i simply don’t want to see a white linebacker or safety out there for the Bears. I’ve been scarred by the Dommer, Conte, Steltzy, Shea, Hillenmeyer,etc.

        • MB30SD

          I get it maings. Was/am hoping bostic becomes a solid demarco r/ s.lee/t. spikes type guy for us. Nothing apocalyptic like lach, but solid and steady if unspectacular.

          That said, at some point Chicago NEEDS to have the best IMLB in the sport. Maybe if there’s one like luke k next year we sell out to get him?

          You know how I feel about white safeties. #neverevereverevereveragain, #neverforget, #learnfromhistory

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

            Hard to foresee the texture of next year’s draft without seeing who we get from this one. I’m feeling Defensive End next year though.

        • SC Dave

          So urlacher was to white for you? How about butkus?

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            jo king

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

          Think Urlacher/Butkus, not Hattie H.

          • SC Dave

            Never understood, and still don’t, the HHhate. He started at linebacker for the Chicago Bears for 6 or 7 years and was a strong contributor on special teams. What’s the fucking problem?

            I imagine even MB would be happy if we were, for instance, to get a seven year starter at FS this draft. Regardless of skin color.

    • Keuchly’s the closest thing to Lach, and Patrick Willis the closest thing to Samurai Mike.

      I don’t think either are as dominant though (puts down Bears-tinted goggles).

      Mosley is a notch or two below them. A “B-” student.

      • MB30SD

        with multiple injuries. Pass.

        • Trac

          Not so fast bucko!

          • MB30SD

            Paaaaaassssss!

            Can’t afford that risk this year maing.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

            Yes, two atrocious knee injuries makes him an easy pass. I’m pretty much resigned to Gilbert, then Bucannon, then Ellis.

    • Cormonster

      The Zach Thomas comparison that Jeff mentioned is more fitting. Borland was second in college football history in forced fumbles also.

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        definitely more fitting. Forgot how completely freakish that Luke is

        • SC Dave

          Freakish?

  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

    I know it would be lunacy not to go Defense with the first 2 picks but I had a dream last night that we moved up to get Jake Matthews.
    Bushrod, Slauson, DLP/Garz, Long, Matthews
    You could send Garrett Wolfe to the HOF behind that line

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

      Great or tiny minds? I had a daydream that Matthews fell to us and we obviously couldn’t pass on him, he was slotted in at RT. Mills is a great swing tackle. Sweet.

  • ah. Posting on dead thread. Repasting.

    No fluff, just the facts, mam.

    In a poll of 17 NFL personnel men, Clemson WR Sammy
    Watkins came out as the top vote-getter as this draft class’ No. 1 wide
    receiver.

    Watkins got 15-of-17 first-place votes and two second-place
    votes. The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel formulates a “points” system
    based on votes, and Watkins received 83 points. Texas A&M’s Mike
    Evans finished second with 59 points, LSU’s Odell Beckham came in a
    close third at 55, and Oregon State’s Brandin Cooks was a distant fourth
    at 25 points. Marqise Lee (22) ranked fifth.

    Corresponds
    to (Jeff’s?) rumor that the Lions might draft Odell Beckham. He’s
    viewed only as slightly less inferior to Evans in the eyes of those who
    actually draft. Lions probably expect Evans to be gone by their slot.

    Either way, I get the feeling that Beckham is going to be drafted before us, which is great.

    Watkins, Evans, Beckham are the top tier, and a significant drop off appears after them.

    If
    Beckham does somehow get to our pick, we might field trade down offers.
    The Steelers at 15 or 9ers late might be in the market to get the last
    top WR.

    • And in Captain Obvious news, Ebron is in a tier all to himself.

      In a poll of 17 NFL personnel men, all 17 agreed North
      Carolina’s Eric Ebron is this draft’s best tight end prospect.

      Ebron maxed out at 68 points in the Milwaukee
      Journal-Sentinel’s vote-based “points” system, with Washington’s Austin
      Seferian-Jenkins second at 37 points, and Texas Tech’s Jace Amaro coming
      in third at 33. Notre Dame’s Troy Niklas was a distant fourth with 16
      points. Iowa’s C.J. Fiedorowicz ranked fifth with 11 points. Utah’s
      Jake Murphy (3) ranked sixth, and Georgia’s Arthur Lynch (2) No. 7.

    • DaMurph

      Phil says he has six players targeted. The only way he drops down is if one of those six is guaranteed to be there. He also said the only position he won’t draft #1 is QB. SO that means he’s lying. I say if Ebron is there, he’s a Bear.

    • PIT is rumored to be zeroing in on Beckham or Cooks at 15.

      SF wants a WR. I’m REALLY hoping a guy they love at WR is there at 14. Take their 2nd and 5th to move back from 14 to 30. Done.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

      The Lions could draft Martavius in 2 or 3. They’re getting Donald if he’s there. That’s a scary line if they get him.

  • Nice to know Onobun is dropping medicine balls in FL.

    Bears TE Fendi Onobun claims he is ready for an increased offensive role.

    It’s about to be Onobun season. The former basketball
    player always looks good in shorts and a t-shirt but can never translate
    it to games. Onobun spent the 2013 season on the Bears’ practice squad
    and has taken part in workouts down in Florida with Brandon Marshall.
    The Bears are looking for a No. 2 tight end.

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      lol, Fendi drives teams crazy because he should be awesome but simply is not. When he caught that one pass in the flat and turned into a 260lb fucking sprinter it made you realize that if he could just walk and chew gum at the same time he’d be one of the most dominant weapons on the field.
      Instead, he’s on his 6th team I think.
      He’s fucking 6’6 260lbs and runs a sub 4.5 40yd. His legs are fucking tree trunks but his hands are made of granite. Fucking granite.

      • MB30SD

        he’s the poor man’s Kellen Davis.

        • Kellen has a SB ring? Didn’t he get deactivated for the SB? if so, does he still get a ring?

          • MB30SD

            I don’t fucking care. I don’t ever want to hear his name again… except when I need to use it to make fun of fendi onobuns

      • SC Dave

        Make.him a fullback then

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

        There appear to be quite a few 6’6 TEs in this draft.

    • gpldan from Eastern Front

      Onabus… to Ft. Lauderdale to take some reps from the tire machine. Good luck to him.

  • Borland 3 surgeries on his shoulder already + LBs kinda use their shoulder = 5th rounder.

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      that’s going to smart when he’s older. He will have a bionic arm by 2034.

      • It’s like Lethal Weapon – shoulders only get weaker.

        I use to play “park football”, basically a bunch of us went around playing guys from other cities, even in Compton. Our QB had a bum shoulder, and it would get dislocated every so often. He’d pop it back in, keep playing.

        Borland has heart, but his body’s going to pay for it.

        • Cormonster

          I’m gonna miss watching that dude play every week. He is good at everything but dropping deep in coverage. He’s one hell of a pass rusher too. He was also the long range field goal kicker, but never attempted one. Supposedly he had the best hands

        • IBNO

          Disagree.

          I’ve had my shoulder reconstructed, and then cleaned out 15 years later. Took 3 years after the first surgery to get it back to feeling like it wasn’t made out of glass, but ever since then, it’s been tons better than it was before. Post-scope, it took about a year before it felt right again. I’m 10 years post-scope, and it feels so much better.

          TLDR version: yeah, if you don’t get it fixed, a shoulder deteriorates over time. If you get it fixed, it’s better/stronger/less painful, but it takes time to get there.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

            McMahon said his shoulder had never felt better than it did in Green Bay. Just never got the chance to show it.

  • gpldan from Eastern Front

    Shock of the draft, the long con of this year’s draft:

    Bridgewater, Bortles and JOHNNY F all drop below 14. All of them, even the Vikes address their O line first if Lewan is there. Re-mock with that in mind and it’s very different.

    • MB30SD

      I’m gonna go the opposite and say all 3 got top 10. Fuck it.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

      If that’s the case then the best option is trading down. Who is that important that we can’t fail to draft them? I don’t see that person.

  • Big Mike

    On Thursday morning, during a pre-draft news conference at Halas Hall,
    Emery made it clear the Bears have a short list of six players they are
    zeroed in on at No. 14.

    • MB30SD

      in no part. order: Donald, Dix, Pryor, Gilbert, Dennard, some fucking whiteboy nobody from some school no one’s heard of.

      • Big Mike

        I think one of the busted up guys, like Nix, or an LB we don’t talk about. Maybe one guy on offense.

        • MB30SD

          I’m hoping the last spot was not truth, although I’m afraid it is. If all of my list are already gone, I would be ok with emery reaching for a guy like jernigan or hageman or even maybe a buchannon (due to his size, speed, competition in college)

          Just no more projected 2nd round ‘fast’ ‘explosive’ white guys from small schools who didn’t play any damn one again please.

          • gpldan from Eastern Front

            Dream scenario: pick up Gilbert, he runs back the opening kick of a TD against the Bills on opening day, the trash cans at the stadium get littered with old Hester jerseys.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

            Oh no my man, picking Jernigan or Bucannon is a no-no in the first, not at 14 …..

          • MB30SD

            My point was, if emery is going to pull an emery and draft some fucking red herring non sequitur. … wouldn’t you rather it be a simple reach for someone we all know and want later, rather than some random no name who’s prolly gonna bust?

            I would

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

        Might be Ebron … or Hagemann.

    • Big Mike

      Sorry, I saw @damurph:disqus already posted this. 6 and none is a QB. Also agree that QB is a smoke screen. Hope all three go ahead of the bears, more like none will.

      • gpldan from Eastern Front

        In December, Bridgewater was everyone’s #1 overall.

        Yet, nobody thinks he’s anywhere as a good as RG3 – and I think the book is WAY out on RG3. I like Metzenberger with his wideout stare downs better than Bortles, who looks very Tim Couch to me.

  • MB30SD
    • Shady

      Those skimpy string bikinis are no match for those massive mammeries.

      #fapfapfapfapfap

      • MB30SD

        yep. I’d love her fap all night. brrbrbrbrbruuughgfhgbgbrbrbrbrbrbr

        know what that sound was?

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

      I wouldn’t cross the road for her, man, and I’m 42 and look it. You scrape the makeup off that and check it out at four in the morning and get back to me.

      • MB30SD

        Ok now I have irrefutable proof you’re a total fucking nutter.

        Google Kate Upton no make up. Dude she’s 20!!! She’s a forest fairy nymph. Fresh beautiful innocent face, then you look down and your dick goes, “dude… WHOA!”

        YOU CRAAAAZY!

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

          Flatline bro.

          • MB30SD

            to each his own my brother… more fo me right.

            My man Murph would be right there with me!! MURPH!!!

  • SC Dave

    Gotta run, but I watched the Borland video, and it’s awesome to see a highlight reel with that many plays on it. So many of those things have six different angles on every play, because the guy just didnt have that many. Borland had a LOT of plays there. Me likey.

    • Big Mike

      Still have to watch the tape, but a draft choice that can 1) Do acrobatics 2) has an injury risk and 3) is from the University of Wisconsin is three strikes.

      • MB30SD

        to his credit, there was not pool involved.

        • Big Mike

          Demarcus Lawrence looks like a 7th round guy. Yuck

      • Cormonster

        Do you have a favorite college football team? What’s your beef with Wisconsin?

        • I think Wisc LBs have a rep for being ultra productive in college, but flopping in the NFL. I think.

          It’s like USC QBs…makes some raise an eye brow.

          • Cormonster

            Your thinking of Wisconsin running backs. They usually took a beating in college, and never made it in the pros. The only linebacker that’s been pro worthy in recent years is Deandre Levy, who starts for the Lions.

            Monte Ball and James White might be exceptions, because after Alvarez left the carries were more evenly spread out during the year.

          • Maybe I am. I know one of those midwest schools has a knock for flopping LBs.

            Borland looks like a maniac, but for every Zach Thomas, there’s like a 100 Constanzos.

            I’ll root for the kid. I like him and that LB from Standford, Skov. They look like great leaders in there.

          • Cormonster

            Not sure what school your referring to, but I’m glad the Packers drafted AJ Hawk from Ohio State in the top five. That guy sucks. Penn State was always known as linebacker university. Bowman and Tamba Hali both played there.

          • SC Dave

            While Hawk has not been what Packers fans hoped, I’m sure, he *has* started for them for eight years. To me, that’s worth a top 5 pick.

        • Big Mike

          Gabe Carimi

          • Cormonster

            Never understood why Carimi was rated as a 1st round tackle. He got burned all the time against better pass rushers in college.

          • Big Mike

            That offensive line was dominant in college. All you’d prerequisite about was his Wisconsin dominated on the ground. So I was excited we got him. Then he was a bust. Now I don’t like Wisconsin draft picks

          • el_caney

            If that were the case, I hope never draft again Neither a Penn state player (Curtis Ennis) nor Colorado (Rashad Salaam) nor Michigan (David Terrell), scrap players came from those universities.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

            I believe it was because he was friends with Tice’s son.

        • MB30SD

          corm, you sir are an avowed wisc hommer. NTTAWWT

          • Big Mike

            I did not know that about @cormonster

          • Cormonster

            Bears have been my favorite sports team since I can remember, but Wisconsin football is definitely second. I rarely miss a game by either team, minus the college “pre-season” games against chumps.

  • Cormonster

    Here’s a look at each team and how many current players were drafted by that team. Green Bay has the most with 33, and the Bears are dead last with 15.Here’s a look at each team and how many current players were drafted by that team.
    http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/125361/inside-slant-building-with-your-own-draft-picks
    Only six guys remain on the team from Angelo’s tenure; 7 if you count Cutler. Those players are Tillman, Forte, Briggs, Paea, Conte, Briggs, and Steltz. Only one top player, Forte, was drafted in Angelo’s last 4 years as GM.
    Emery currently has 9 draft picks on the team: McClellin, Jeffery, Frye, Long, Bostic, Greene, Mills, Washington, and Wilson. Emery drafted two gems in Jeffery and Long, and two other sta

    • Shady

      Someone should tweet that stat to Angelo… And no, he gets zero credit for Brandon Marshall. That was all Emery. Martz was the one who forced the Olsen trade.

      • MB30SD

        yes!

        Get online

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

        Also … zero credit for the Cutler trade. Orton > Campbell. End of.

    • bearsfantillend

      i don’t know if i should be mad or depressed by how they could have let Angelo fuck things up for that long.

      • gpldan from Eastern Front

        Mad. Specifically, mad at Ted Phillips. An accountant by trade, the man holds the Bears future in his hands for decades all because the “family” likes the deal he got from Daley on the stadium, they think his taxpayer swindle was good. It was: for them.

        • Cormonster

          Is there any stadium deal among the four big sports that doesn’t swindle the taxpayers? That seems to be standard operating procedure, with some deals being more egregious than others.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

          Ted Phillips is a man who escapes a lot of vitriol – he oversaw the whole Clusterfuck. He’s the Prez. He shares the blame.

      • SC Dave

        It is history, compadre. Treat it as such, and let it go

      • yet they still had a better than .500 record most of Angelo’s tenure. Those teams under Lovie ranged from average (7-9) to good, but never really touched great.

  • MB30SD

    So are the HAWKCE aaaaand the BULLCE both out?!

    • Hawks starting round 2 against Minnesota Friday night. Bulls done.

    • EnderWiggin

      Did you post this already?

      • MB30SD

        Last year.

        That thing is insane. And very very fast. 0-60 in 4 seconds, with a top speed of 115?!?!

        …oh yeah, and it flyings.

  • SC Dave
    • Big Mike

      But yet they won zippo. Still don’t know how you have the best defensive player, the best offensive player and jack shit to show for it. Oh wait. George Halas was cheap.

      • SC Dave

        It’s a team sport.

  • Drroy

    Born and raised in Chicago, living in Oregon for over 30 years. DeAnthony Thomas is the real deal. Use him sparingly as Jeff suggests, and he’s a gamebreaker — great game speed and unteachable natural instincts, cutting and moving. Little known fact, he also had the best hands on the team — great receiver. Chip Kelly knew how to use him. His successor, Mark Helfrich, did not. In his highlight reel, notice how many of his great plays were on the big stage — Rose Bowl against Wisconsin, following year against K State. Mid to late round, a real winner.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

      Welcome Roy!

    • he or Dri Archer would both be great fits for the Bears in round 5 or so.

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      Welcome to the blog you damn hippie.

    • Big Mike

      Shea McClellin 2.0. No thank you.

  • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

    There’s no way we could draft Borland or Martavius. You’d need to use your second on either, and we can’t afford to do that. Both are interesting though.

    If we get Gilbert then we need to go safety in the second (Bucannon over Ward purely based on size) and a DT like Justin Ellis in the third. Bullough could be had later on and he’s built more like a mike at 6’3 250.

  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

    morning boys, quick thought. I really like the moves Emery has made this offseason and am excited for the draft. I think i would have really liked to have Bowman back at backup corner. I feel that if Peanut goes down we could be in for some frustrating moments. Bowman was servicable and can’t believe he signed a one year offer with the Giants. Did we offer him less ham on his sandwich???

    • It seems like the Bears were going Tillman or Bowman. I would have gone Bowman over Hayden, personally, but I guess they like Hayden’s ability to compete with Frey at the slot and play outside.

      They’re looking at big CBs in the draft, so whoever they draft will basically replace Bowman.

      • MB30SD

        dude, 100%. You guys all know I am NOT a Hayden fan. Dude sucks.

        • and he’s always hurt. I would have MUCH rather kept Bowman, but they wanted versatility. Jennings can be the versatile one to slide into the slot IMO, but whatever. Financially they could have brought both to camp pretty easily.

          I hated it when they let Idonije walk last year in favor of Ellis, and I hated Hayden over Bowman this year. Hopefully this one doesn’t bite them in the ass as bad as that did.

          • MB30SD

            but there’ll be plenty of guys falling out with other teams as the season starts. We can pick onea thems up right?

          • we’ll see. Right now it looks like the 5 CBs will be Tillman, Jennings, Frey, Haden, and a rookie. McManis is also back to push for a spot on special teams, and they have CJ Wilson, who spent last year on the PS and could be looking to make a Frey-like push in year 2.

            So there are a lotta guys fighting for probably 5 spots in camp.

          • SC Dave

            Letting Izzy walk was just stupid

          • To be fair, Ellis replaced him. Or was supposed to. Impossible to know he would retire at 28.

  • Shady

    http://www.suntimes.com/sports/27179632-419/bears-gm-phil-emery-has-narrowed-his-list-to-players-who-can-start-now.html

    And then there were six…

    Any guesses? Any chance an offensive player is in the mix.

    • MB30SD

      $10 blog dollars please. Please just hit murph up and arrange a time to meet at portillos and buy him the beer you never bought me. SMC.

      Here were my guesses (about 2 days ago):

      Dix, Pryor, Gilbert, Donald, Dennard, some random white guy from a shitty little school… with a great highlight tape making plays on what amounts to high school kids

      • I would be shocked if Ra’Shede Hageman isn’t one of those 6. Also perhaps Mosley and Kyle Fuller.

        I kinda doubt Dennard is. Just doesn’t seem like an Emery guy.

        • MB30SD

          you might be right on dennard… I just forgot about fuller to be honest.

          Really, hageman is total boom or bus…. ahhh, right….. emery. Yeah, you might be right again.

          DAMN YOU EMERY!!!! JUST TAKE THE LOGICAL GUY!!!

          • Hageman reminds me SO MUCH of Kyle Long, it’s kind of scary.

            Raw at the position with only a few years’ experience (flipped from TE)
            Extremely rare combination of size and athleticism with incredible upside
            Off-field issues in the past, but those seem to be a few years’ behind him

          • He’ll also be a 24 yr old rookie.

            Hageman has “motor” issues though. Long on tape looked like the energizer bunny. That’s a huge difference.

            If we had a Dline coach like Marinelli, I would feel more comfortable drafting a guy like Hageman, esp at 14. Our current coaching staff on D…not so sure.

            But Hageman vs Long practices would be epic.

          • I’m not saying I want Hageman, I’m just saying he seems like an Emery type pick. I would not be at all surprised to hear his name called at 14 next Thursday.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

            Fuller looks special. And he des Polamalu’s dive into the backfield at 0:21!
            No need to mute, either.

          • starting to hear speculation now about taking a big CB like Fuller and putting him at S. This is based on something Emery said yesterday, supposedly.

          • Big Mike

            Gaaa, because converting CBs to Safeties has worked out so well for the Bears.

          • MB30SD

            THIS!!!!

            Please GOD NO!!! Just pick a fucking safety emery.

            I swear I will fucking destroy my huge TV is he even fucking tries that bullshit.

          • Might move him to S while learning CB? That way, he plays S this year, but if Peanut doesn’t return next year, he takes over there?

            It’s sort of dangerous making rookies learn two positions, but if we draft a CB, it’s for an eye for next year anyways.

      • Trac

        C’mon now, you KNOW Mosley is in that mix.

        • MB30SD

          nope. too many injuries already. Not emery’s style.

  • gpldan from Eastern Front
    • Biggsy reaalllly needs to cut down on those Italian Subs. He’s the only Bears’ journalist worth a damn. He owes it to the city.

      Pompeii is now elsewhere, and though he was interesting, he was also a slightly douchy.

    • hmmmm…””Players that play safety, ideally they are interchangeable,” Emery
      said. “You have to have physical toughness and the ability to get backs
      on the ground. That part of it hasn’t changed, but people are
      sacrificing a little bit in the size area in terms of getting players
      that can be more active and successful in coverage.”

      That sounds like Pryor, OR, Emery Jedi-mind-fucking a team to select Pryor ahead of us.

      • MB30SD

        I thought the exact same thing. Pryor @ 14 is he’s there… 100% sure of it. (well, maybe 50/50)

  • gpldan from Eastern Front
    • I think Pep could be in for a bit of a bounceback year, or I did until he signed with a 3-4 team (just made zero sense to me). Have to see how he fits in their defense.

    • Big Mike

      Of course he said that.

    • MB30SD

      did they fly over down town green bay and drop pamphlets?

      nice propaganda campaign ted.

  • Big Mike

    I want that guy from Clemson. Oh man… I’m going to the dark side. Fantasy Football offense…

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD

    in our marketing commercials bit, I have a total WTF filing

    Sprint… What in THEE fuck is this.

    (although I give massive props to the girl singing home sweet home in french)

  • Trac

    I really don’t think the Bears will draft a DB in the first round if Dix, Pryor and Gilbert are gone. I’m also not sold that Giants aren’t gonna draft D. They’re the wild card ahead of us in my opinion. They could try to go OL or D very easily. Ebron would be a luxury pick to them I think.

    • MB30SD

      if dix pryor and gilbert are all gone, something has gone very weird and we’ll have a shot at a guy like a barr or a donald.

      • Trac

        I could see some trades causing that to happen. More teams looking to trade down that normal this year. Ya never know.

        • MB30SD

          you do indeed never know trac. But I think it’s going to be unlikely.

          I think the most likely scenario is that we’ll have our pick of either dix or pryor… and maybe gilbert. I would be pretty happy with any of the 3 to be honest, although if he choses CB over one of the available franchise FSs I will be baffled.

      • el_caney

        It would be teeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrific!!

    • el_caney

      don´t discount Jerry Jones moves upward for Donald

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD

    btw, District 9 was on the Esquire network last night. Had to watch it again (for prolly the 10th time)… what an awesome movie. See it if you haven’t already. Trust me.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

      Oi hate focking prawns boot!

      • MB30SD

        yussslike, focking prawns!

        (oi is more an ozzie thing btw)

  • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

    Mayock musings:

    » Defensive end Will Clarke is one of the fastest risers in the draft. Mayock has him as a third-round pick.

    » Had Oklahoma corner Aaron Colvin not torn his ACL during Senior Bowl week, Mayock believes he could have gone in the first round and thinks he will probably wind up as a fourth-round pick.

    » The San Francisco 49ers won’t be sitting around with the 31st pick and will likely move up, said Mayock. They need a starting corner and Jason Verrett could be an option for the club despite being a bit on the smaller side.

    {note – the niners hold the 24th (from KC) and 29th second round picks. They have three picks in the third round – 13 (from TEN), 30, 36.

    We trade down with the niners to 31st pick, we get their 24th pick in the second round and maybe a 3rd rounder? We’d get essentially five second and third rounders.

    • MB30SD

      Phil Emery, “hold up, hold up…. i’mma let you finish… but right now, I’m just gonna take Calvin Pryor and then sit down till round 2.”

    • el_caney

      all depends on what happened before bears pick

    • DaMurph

      He is not trading down unless one of his six is guaranteed to be there. That’s 17 spots my man, no way is there a guarantee one of the six will be there. If his 6 are on the board he would entertain trading down a max of six spots. No way I trade down 17 spots.

      • Trac

        I’d do it for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd in a heartbeat with Dix, Pryor, Donald and Gilbert gone. We’d prolly still have Mosely fall to us.

        • DaMurph

          I would too if we had a totally shit team We dont, We need a playmaker or two. Getting a difference maker is more probable at 14 than 31

          • MB30SD

            thiiiiiis!

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

        We give give up the six when we trade down no doubt.

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      Irish, we simply do not need 5 rookies between the 2nd and 3rd round. We need 1 guy that can come in this year and contribute immediately and maybe 1 more guy to provide some rotational depth. The rest is filled out with NFL vets playing for minimum deals..

      • MB30SD

        thank you sir. May I have…. another.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

        Any safety or corner we draft in the top three will be starting at some point int he near future (even if it’s at nickel). One has to assume he’s drafting a 3T. I’d expect three starters out of this draft that play this season.

    • 3rd round risers scare me. Those are the guys Emery seems to fancy. Heck, they might be rising BECAUSE Emery likes them. Mind-blown.

      • gpldan from Eastern Front

        The best, and truest, part of that Costner Draft Day movie was not the fact the camera always stayed about 6-8 feet from him and did no close-up work because he looks like the tanned hide of a late-1990s Porsche 993 seatback – no…

        The best part was the way everybody else in the NFL thought he was a dunce YET – when he trades up and then DOESN’T take the QB – it spooks everyone else. Fear CASCADES through every other team and they all pass on the Badger QB as well. Sorry, that was a spoiler.

        No REASON is given – just somehow everybody PANICS. Good stuff.

        • Thanks for the spoiler alert AFTER the spoiler.
          Jerk.

          • MB30SD

            You’re really going to watch that pos?

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

            It was a good story. The ‘love interest’ was a parody, but it was a good draft day.

          • MB30SD

            but it’s got kevin costner in it maings. (shrugging with very puzzled look on face)

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            He’s been in a lot of good movies. He’s a tool, but he has.

    • As for the trade with the 9ers, if Gilbert is there at 12 (and Donald is gone), that might be bait enough for the 9ers.

      We can get their 24th and a 3rd. Hopefully, either Pryor or Dix will fall there – if not, someone like Hageman or Tuitt would be quality.

      In the 2nd, best case scenario, Ward or Bucannon.

      Two 3rds we can draft someone like CB Desir or LB Bullough/Borland, and HB Andre Williams. We can either stay pat and provide further depth, or maybe even be able to trade up and draft someone who’s fallen.

      • Also, with two 3rds, we can move up from the 2nd to nab either Ward or Bucannon.

        So we can realistically draft Hageman, Ward in the first two rounds, and still have a 3rd for CB.

        Not too shabby.

      • el_caney

        The more I read about Donald more sure I ´m he will be gone before bears pick.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

          Yeah, he has too much upside. If he does that in the NFL, he’s worth a top five pick.

  • MB30SD
    • CanadaBear

      He’s a dandy. Supposedly going to Chi-Town for rehab. Somehow that doesn’t seem like a good idea.

      • MB30SD

        Haha, guy is a fucking one-man circus train wreck. Can you imagine that shit down here? He wouldn’t be the mayor after 5 seconds.

        He’s going to lose anyway, see his new running mate? http://www.modelmavens.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Screen-shot-2011-10-07-at-8.38.55-AM.png

        She’s got my fucking absentee vote!

        • CanadaBear

          Yeah, I could get behind his running mate! The city council has essentially stripped him of any power but he just won’t step down. There are so many pics/vids of him smoking crack, being hammered in public, etc it’s crazy. I’m sure most Torontonians are proud!!!!!!!!!!

          • MB30SD

            It’s all very funny, but in reality, not at all.

            The guy is a total train wreck and a national embarrassment.

            That and his heart is just going to explode out of his chest any second. Sad.

  • MB30SD

    From jeff’s twit account

    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Competition-for-safety-jobs-wide-open/0cb0c5b3-208c-4912-95b3-5ae9de7d42be

    QUESTION: Why are we wasting one fucking iota or effort/money/time on anything to do with chris fucking cunte!?

    (yes, I know why… it was a dig on how abjectly turrible a safety he is, but you knew this.)

    • gpldan from Eastern Front

      This is Steltz break out year. Pro Bowl fer sure.

      • MB30SD

        hahahahahaha

  • el_caney

    Borland would be fine but Bullough or Skov would be terrific

  • el_caney

    I think “the move” of the draft, would be picking Telvin Smith and Emery convinces him to turn to SS

    • MB30SD

      NO MORE FUCKING PROJECTS!!!!!

      • el_caney

        hahaha Dude even in it´s moment Ulracher was a proyect, a man without position. fortunately you, and even me, are general manager of this team.

        • MB30SD

          naw, not really. people love to make that argument, but I’ve never seen a 6’4″ 260lb safety in any football league.

          • el_caney

            good point. but I´ve never seen a 6’2” 218lb LB pro football with range and good to read plays neither. not since 80´s

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

            Who was that?

          • el_caney

            It was Jerry Robinson of Philadelphia, I remember him because the first game I watched was the super bowl between Raiders vs. Eagles. he was a pro bowl in that year.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

            Brian Urlacher!

          • MB30SD

            no irish, he wasn’t a safety at NM, they made up a completely new position specifically for him because he was such a freak. He was never going to be a safety in the NFL and again, he wasn’t one at NM.

            That and the DC for new mexico was basically doing everything he possibly could to use brian everywhere since the rest of that d was such dogshit and lach was such an animal. Did you not read the thing I posted about it a few weeks ago?

            You and dave need to let go of this, it’s a horrible example, and urlacher is a once in a decade talent. You just can’t apply the rarity to the entire field. What’s the norm, regress to the mean man… moving guys around gets you conte, hardin, CD… at least for us. So why keep trying this when at the very least we’ve been miserable at it, and at most, it hardly ever works for anyone? Moving a dlineman from inside to outside and back isn’t a big deal, moving a safety to LB or vice versa is much harder at the nfl level if the guy’s never played the new position. In HS it’s easy, sometimes in college it’s not hard. Once you get to the nfl, playing a totally new position well takes a biiiiiiig talent.

            What’s the saying about the definition of insanity (or buffoonery)?

  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!
  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

    I know I sound a little like Hub here but a friend in Minnesota just texted me that he heard that Kevin Williams is a possibility as a Bears pickup for rotational depth if the hour draws close and he comes down in price.

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      take it with a grain of salt though because I was also the guy that said that we were thinking of Plaxico Burress…..

      • el_caney

        you said it

    • EnderWiggin

      That would change everything.

      • MB30SD

        can you imagine? That would open the way for a pryor, buchannon, CB in the third option if the right DT wasn’t there. Whoa..

    • that would be a great move, but I’m imagining no DT depth moves will come until after the draft.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

      The man is unemployed, they must be interested, regardless of who we draft. This isn’t the eighties, we need a rotation.

  • MB30SD

    wtf!??! Can someone please curb this turd

    Jerry Angelo @RealJerryAngelo
    Have I ever had @Publix crab legs, @minnickgregory asks?
    Yes, and I love them, but I’m not going to jail for eating them!

    Are you fucking kidding me?!?! My god what a useless fuck. No jerry, you should go to jail for the rape and fraud you perpetrated on the bears org and the great halas name for more than a decade. The penalty should be life… hard labor.

    • gpldan from Eastern Front

      • MB30SD

        love that guys voice.

        Yeah, man $6M a year. Just crushes my soul. It really is about who you know. smmfc.

      • Cormonster

        That is one of the best movies ever. Here’s a classic scene of the warden in a different movie.

        • CanadaBear

          I loved Strother Martin in this movie. One of my all-time faves.

          • Cormonster

            One of the top 5 sports movies of all time. Plus, there’s a long scene where Ralphie’s Mom is in bed with Paul Newman showing off her sloping, yet argumentative boobies.

          • CanadaBear

            I think that may be Suzanne of “Suzanne sucks pussy” fame!

  • MB30SD
    • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

      Gimp.

  • MB30SD

    well, looks like I will indeed be going to vegas for Memorial day.

    $, haven’t actually booked yet, but I’ll let you know when, where, etc… if you’re still interested. Might be a bit smaller group, but who cares, we’ll pick up groupies there no matter what.

    Anya you other guys interested? Trac? Hahahahaha!

  • OK, I don’t wanna spam all of you too badly, but the new site I’m writing for just launched today. It’d be awesome if you guys check it out (don’t worry, Jeff, I’m not trying to steal anybody. It’s not a site with any comment section, just one you go check out articles. Always room for more Bears content!). It’s gonna be really great in the next week with draft preview; we have a former NFL scout writing for us.

    I’ve got a piece on there breaking down the draft needs for the Bears based on their roster, and the scout has a piece looking at who he thinks the 6 people Emery is considering in round 1 are (great piece).

    We’re also gonna have a couple series coming out before the draft in which we examine potential Bears targets at CB, S, and DT for the first 3 rounds (I’m writing that) and targets at RB, TE, and QB for round 4+ (the scout is writing that). So check it out for all the draft content you’ve been begging Jeff for.

    http://www.bearsdraftontap.com/

    • MB30SD

      congrats data.

      Good start. Still some bugs. The poll is a liiiiittle difficult to use.

      • yeah, they have a guy working on web design. I’ve raised a couple issues with him, including that one.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

          Woodsy – have you looked into who would be interested in drafting Donald before us, and what is their other primary draft need by position?

          • other teams who could show interest include TB (DT not a huge need, but Lovie loves him some pass rushing DTs), MIN (new coach who just had Atkins; D is biggest need in MIN), TEN, STL.

            People say NYG too, but I don’t see that. They lost a nose tackle and drafted his replacement in round 2 last year.

          • in terms of other needs, MIN has need at QB, CB, LB.

            TB needs WR, QB(?), maybe DE

            TEN needs QB, OL, WR, CB, S

            NYG need LB, CB, S, OL, WR

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

          Not a good sign for the designer Woodsy, if he needs to be told about that poll window …. I wouldn’t have gone live with that as a programmer. FUBAR GUI.

          Looking through the site now. The top 5s are interesting. Gilbert at #3 CB. Bucannon #2 S. I’d love to see us grab Terrance West in the 4th or 5th.

          Here’s a good look at Phil’s six players he thinks will be there at 14.

          http://www.bearsdraftontap.com/#!How%20Does%206%20Go%20Into%2014%3F%20/c182g/6FC97596-AE68-4597-9D1B-455C86F157CB

          He talks about Pryor in the same terms as Mike Brown and Tony Parrish as a tackling safety. There’s that word ‘tackling’. Isn’t that what we’re missing? That’s what we need. It’s going to be tough on Emery if Pryor and Donald are there.

          I don’t understand why there is talk of 195lb Fuller projecting to safety. Some 6’3 230lber pass-def LB, yes – but why Fuller?

          Interesting that two of the six are Tuitt and Bucannon. We all bought into the initial ‘expert’ mocks that he’s a 2nd rounder, and available a 51. He might be gone by 21 if he’s the second best safety – and who’s this Verret guy who’s name is popping up now as a top corner?

          And the mystique of Tuitt. The only player who wowed me on tape. He’s been talked out of it. A player that missed significant time off for hernia surgery, and had weight probems during his recovery, which he played this then his optimal self. The upside is obvious. He’s just a powerful looking force with amazing top end speed for a man his size, not ideal for DE, but doesn’t rely on speed and quickness like Donald – attributes which can be countered by veterans. There is an answer to Donald. There is not for Tuitt. Donald disappears under an NFL double-team, guard and center .. but with Tuitt you’re dealing with the simple laws of motion and momentum. He’s a smart player by all accounts. He reads games. Once he decides to split a double team, and use their weight against them, it’s all one way traffic. If Donald can beat his man, or men, purely on speed terms, then great. Would you bet your first round pick he will? Your house?

          I feel 2 things about this kid.

          1. Tuitt will move into the O’s backfield consistently – and if he doesn’t, it’s because they have three men on him. He will disrupt the opponent’s plans, often, not because of skill, but because of physics.

          2. Nobody has seen the best of him yet, nor at his most athletic, yet he has already done freakish things. I’ll never forget the sight of him recovering a fumble on his own 25 yard line and sprinting away from DBs all the way to the endzone. A 310lb sprinter with no body fat swinging around. This kid is only 20 years old.

          We might trade down to 24 to get him and find he’s already gone. If Phil drafts this guy at 14 I would cheer him, and he’ll be hailed as a genius if this guy is as productive as think he can be.

          I’m changing my handle back, sorry for temporarily losing faith in you, but Irish Chocolate will always be welcome.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            I love Tuitt Irish don’t get me wrong, always have since I do follow ND more than other teams i guess. We can’t take him at 14 and he won’t be there by the time we pick in the 2nd. I promise you this, if we pick a Safety in Rd 1 i guarantee you we move up in the 2nd to pick Tuitt or Ealy.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            or maybe Justin Ellis

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            All good guys. I’m just hoping Emery pulls some Costner moves and gets us three of them instead of two.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            Nice.

          • MB30SD

            this.

            pryor @ 14, then do what it takes to move up and get phil’s DT (whomever that might be)

    • Be shameless, like me.
      I might actually do a mock draft of my own. Why not? I might make a “worst case scenario” mock mock draft. For example.

      And at 16, the Cowboys select, Johnny Manziel, quarterback, Texas A&M…Jerry Jones explains his selection,”Y’all need to simmer down, boys. This isn’t a CRITIQUE of Tony Romo. If anything, I like Romo so much that I wanted another one.”

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Irish Choc

        I’v seen those DIY mock drafts online – haven’t invested the time … but if you know each team’s primary and secondary needs, it should give us a picture of who will be gone by our pick.

    • tobijohn

      Good stuff. I liked your piece as well as the three parter by Aaron Leming. What’s your take on his conclusions?

      • he does a great job breaking down Emery’s picks through 2 years. There are definitely a lot of things in common with many of them, and not necessarily what people first think of.

        Biggest thing I got from that series was to pay attention to pre-draft visits.

    • CanadaBear

      Nicely done JW. I’ve bookmarked the site.

  • MB30SD

    Jeff, can we please have chat on draft day?

    • Trac

      How bout we have a live conference call with these guys. Hee hee.

  • gpldan from Eastern Front

    MB –

    I need a grade on Ladler

    • MB30SD

      Pros:
      * good frame size
      * Ballhawk
      * Good open field tackler
      * Isn’t afraid to get dirty
      * Played big opponents
      * Strong and good leaps

      Cons:
      * Kinda slow
      * Hips looks a liiiittle tight
      * Didn’t seem like he had great instincts

      I’m going to say, maybe a late 3rd/4th rd back up… much better than conte, worse than manning

      OK, I didn’t read his combine summary first, let’s see how ol’ MB did: http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/kenny-ladler?id=2543875

      Hahaha… some spot on, some off.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

        Strange report. Questions his open-field tackling and instincts/anticipation, needs to bulk up – then they tab him as a SS? SMH.

        On that tape, all you can see is anticipation – because he’s watching the ball. Even if he bulks up, free safety for a decade.

        • MB30SD

          common maings, really?

          I saw a little bit of laziness most. he was in the right place for 4 of those INTs where the dude basically just threw them right to him. The other one was really good hawking.

          Buchannon I can see being a Kam Chancellor like find, this kid strikes me as a manning type, MAYBE there’s potential for a solid career, but most likely he’ll be a mundy. decent FS and good STmer.

          • gpldan from Eastern Front

            Thanks.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      Wow, that’s insane. He starts at FS tomorrow for the Bears. Watches the ball not the player, he gets it. Great anticipation. 5 INTs / 5 FF / 91 tackles in 2013.

      • gpldan from Eastern Front

        Rumor Mill (from Hub) says Emery has his eye on the kid. The Bears-Vandy thing.

        • MB30SD

          this would not surprise me…. and I’m ok with it in the 3rd or 4th… as long as we take Dix/Pryor at 14 first.

  • Was watching a little Mooch with the RBs. I love the RB position. Such a shame God-ell practically legislated it out. Is there anything more exciting in football than a great run? I don’t think so (and I played WR/CB). Everyone can still see Beast Mode face palming Saints in that playoff game. How about when Sweetness refused to go down in that Chief’s game? Or Bo Jackson running into the tunnel?

    If all the great athletes indeed choose another position because HB has been so devalued, it’ll hurt the NFL experience overall.

    On a draft note, Jeremy Hill’s idol is…Matt Forte. Maybe it’s the Louisana connection, but Hill said he likes big backs, like himself (6’1 233). Hill’s running style is not Forte-ish at all though. He might be the best back in this class, even if he was a bit of a bonehead (does getting in a bar fight qualify? If so, I’m a bonehead too).

    http://youtu.be/4_67w8sjuo8

    • If you want a fresh Forte, Charles Sims is your guy.

      http://youtu.be/4Xhlmlhu3TU

      • I would be thrilled if they can grab Sims in round 4, but I think they’re either looking for a bruiser back or a Sproles-type guy

    • Trac

      Yes, little puppies are trampled to death in N.Korea as well. What a turrible world we now live in.

    • I like big backs and I cannot lie…

  • I don’t know what genre of music this is, but it accurately recreates the L.A. experience. (NSFW?)

    • Trac

      People joke at the thought of there being a real satanic church but guess what, there really is one and they really do practice human sacrifice. Anyone can do the research on this if they have the stomach for it.

      http://flowofwisdom.com/2011/12/19/the-occult-human-sacrifices-are-performed-during-8-major-sabbaths/

      • gpldan from Eastern Front

        People believe in many silly things: Global Warming is fake, Elvis is alive, The Tampa 2 is still relevant. It doesn’t mean they are true. In many ways, the church itself only can look inward for teaching people shit like hell and Satan exist and then have the weirdos with anti-social tendencies embrace and buy into it. For every force there will always be those idiots who set up a counterforce.

        • Trac

          What’s your honest assessment of Al Goreleoni?

          • MB30SD

            he’s only interested in power and money like the rest of them… his platform is almost immaterial.

          • gpldan from Eastern Front

            what MB said.

          • Trac

            See, you and I ain’t so far apart. Lol. I can’t believe I just said that, must re-assimilate…….mmmm…..assimilate….must resist……mmmmm….assimilating….mmmm….

        • MB30SD

          this.

    • MB30SD

      who fucking cares?

      Honestly, who cares. This is all fairytail shit anyway. They’re just doing it to piss of the religious right, ignore it and you’ve won. Get all flustered and they’ve won.

      Again, who fucking cares?

      • I thought it was funny that they were going to use the destruction insurance to create more statues. Satanists filling out insurance forms…

  • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

    First actions after coming into billions of dollars.

    1. Purchase Chicago Bears.

    2. Audition new Honey Bears. First installation – this chick who was under the Jared Allen shot in his Bears Uni.

    http://instagram.com/JulieSomerson#

    • gpldan from Eastern Front

      Spicy!

      • el_caney

        Agree about Spicy!!

    • MB30SD

      very cute… 7.5 – 8

    • Shady

      Looks like a man.

      • She’s a man, baby!

        • MB30SD

          Don’t knock it till you’ve tried it?

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

        Exactly.

  • gpldan from Eastern Front

    GP’s Chicago Top Tips: Today’s note is pizza

    I like Cold Pizza. It’s a thing with me. I find a pizza has two distinct states: that which it is in fresh out of the oven and that it is in after a night in the fridge.

    Some pizza which is a outstanding fresh has ingredients and dough that makes it taste like eating rubber cheese and the veggies just don’t hold and certainly don’t ferment to taste better. I have had fresh/cold scores differ by as many as 7 points. Hot: 9 Cold: 2. Combined score: 11.

    I am here today to tell you about a pizza that scores a 19. It’s amazing but true. This pizza is a solid 9 hot and actually is much better cold. All the way to being the best cold pizza I have ever had, which forces me to give it the elusive 10.

    It’s important to note I don’t distinguish between deep dish and thin here. Some of you may despise deep dish cold, it can be a rough going and when deep dish is bad cold, it’s very bad. Thin tends to make better cold pizza, but I don’t distinguish.

    Today’s dish is: Thin, mushrooms, basil and tomatoes with garlic from Piece. Just off the corner of Damen and North Ave. I visited last night, first game of the HAWKCE against the Wildings, so it was a zoo. But, incredibly, the kitchen was as en fuego as Al on a Burma Shave bender.

    This pizza today is completely sublime. Piece usually fights for a Top 3 spot in most Chicago surveys of pizza: red Eye, Reader, Trib, Chicago Magazine,Crain’s Capitalist Rag, whatever. But there’s a reason for this. I grew up South Side and there are many great mom and pops south of 87th. I know. But you gotta hand it to Piece, it is that good because it holds it’s awesome after a night in the fridge.

    Check it out.

    • Trac

      I had a Chicago style (as good as Lou’s) last night. Mmmm. Was excited to have some cold left overs for lunch today and went to check on it when I woke up. Sadly, my son beat me to it. Ze pain, ze pain.

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      GP, i hate/respect/love you depending on the strength of the breeze but i will tell you this:

      PIECE is absolutely the best pizza on the market today. It’s great when you dine in and they brew their own high quality craft beers, it’s great when you carry it out, it’s great when you mow it down the next morning in a hungover stupor after Kane makes the Wild his bitch.

      I’m a northsider that now lives on the southside. i know pizza like i know the back of my Powers and jizz stained hand. PIECE is the fucking real deal. Preach on my man.

      • MB30SD

        Hate to say this, but… Fuck Chicago style. It SUCKS.

        No thin and flat and big ALL the way.

        • gpldan from Eastern Front

          “Chicago Style” is an important part of the history of Chicago. It would appear that the true story is that Rudy Malnati invented the pizza in 1943, and it’s based on the pie traditions not only of Italy but of other influences of ethic Chicago at the time.

          So, you of the SoCal carb hater clan may dislike it, but don’t say Fuck it. It’s rude, darling, and you know that rudeness is rooted in fear, the fear of not getting what one wants.

          • MB30SD

            Hahahaha. .. well put lovey, well put.

            It’s true, I probably have ZERO cred or ability to comment on this topic. I’ve made lifestyle choices that should preclude me from even providing my view here.

            I’ve edited my post above accordingly.

            But for the record, when this salad eating fitness freak does indulge in a pie… it’s the flat, floppy kind… or the true Italian style that I make myself… from all organic, gluten, sugar, and wheat free crust, fresh crushed tomatoes from my garden, and soy cheese. (Just kidding)

            I will say the my favorite type/style of pizza is found in any tiny hole in the wall mom and pop restaurant in Tuscany. Man that shit is amazing. Smallish weirdly shaped pie with just some fresh homemade tomato sauce, real mozzarella ones some basil. Boom!

  • MB30SD

    can one of you guys who gamles explain this to me?

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/02/showbiz/ben-affleck-casino/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

    How in thee fuck can they do this? To a star no less. I don’t get it (I mean, I get it from a legal perspective… their establishment, they can do whatever they want… I mean from a wtf standpoint)

    • CanadaBear

      That’s just how fucked things are. He can gamble there forever as long as he loses. But if you happen to be good at Black Jack, C-Ya. Just one more reason why I hate organized gambling.

      • MB30SD

        totally ridiculous. and to do it to him.

        SMFH… instead of using it as a marketing tool and driving that much more traffic to their establishment, they pull this bullshit. Absurd. The vast majority of people really aren’t smart.

        • Trac

          I just watched a show on Netflix about this. Casino’s target players like Afleck(called Whales) who have a lot of money. They even give them 10s of thousands of dollars of house money and a discount on losses to entice them to play at their establishments. Most of the time this strategy works but occasionally they get a player who beats them at their own game and eventually they tell them to get lost. When a player is able to minimize the houses advantage to the point that they have a better than 50% chance of winning by working out special rules, it’s easier than you think to win big. Specially if for instance they let you play million dollar hands.

    • Trac

      Vegas and Casinos in general are hurting. This is not new by the way.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      Wins oscar as a young man for writing, banged J-Lo, gets banned from casino table for being too good … this guy is a legend.

      • MB30SD

        used to think he was a dbag… but he and damon have grown on me. Both studs.

        If you haven’t seen runner runner, check it out. Good flick. Timberlake is a better actor than singer (but I’m not into his music, I’m sure he’s a very talented singer)

        • Cormonster

          I have to see that movie.

    • Cormonster

      One of my best friends from college used to be a professional gambler. He used to travel all over the US and Caribbean countries playing blackjack. He basically got blackballed in Vegas and wasn’t allowed to play blackjack at the casinos.
      He switched to Texas Holdem and was really good. Poker Stars used to sponsor him in the World Series of Poker tournaments in Vegas, Bahamas, and Europe with his buy in and all expenses paid. When online gambling got banned in the US, he switched to high stakes games. He used to play in big games in LA against Affleck and some other Hollywood stars, among others. My buddy doesn’t say a lot about his gambling, but he did say Affleck was a really good player.
      It takes a certain kind of person to be really good at gambling. My buddy had balls of stone, but also had a disciplined system and never got emotional. My brother was with him in Vegas before he got banned from Blackjack. He was up over 10 grand and my brother wanted him to walk. He said he wasn’t done yet. A couple hours later he walked down over 5 grand. According to my brother, afterward he just shrugged and said some days you win, some days you lose like it was no big deal.
      I think he moved to a regular job because no one would play against him anymore in big enough games except for other really good players. I don’t know how he did it when he played online. He had 3 big monitors and played 8-10 games at the same time between Texas Holdem and Omaha, with 1-2 games being large tournaments and the rest cash games. He’s a really smart guy, but I still don’t know how he could process all that data at the same time.

      • tobijohn

        He should be day trading. He’d probably excel at that….

  • Hawkings wear of Terminators…the article actually isn’t all that illuminating, but read the comment from PV, the long comment. Verry interesting….maybe your laptop is more aware than you think (put down the lotion)

    http://io9.com/stephen-hawking-says-a-i-could-be-our-worst-mistake-in-1570963874?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

  • gpldan from Eastern Front

    Modern society has waited and waited… for this moment

    • MB30SD

      Hahahahah… you and me are mind melded right now. Almost posted this yesterday, but didn’t want to spam you guys.

      Classic.

    • Shady

      heeheehee

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      Bravo Chef!

  • MB30SD

    wtf!?!?

    http://www.aol.com/article/2014/04/30/could-eating-chicken-on-the-bone-make-kids-more-aggressive/20878371/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl18%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D470900

    wait, their sample size was….. 12? What were the other mitigating factors… like fucking personality!?!?

    Is this even real scientific method?!

    • Cormonster

      No, it’s a stupid study. It’s about as scientific as computer models projecting future man-made global warming from a minor greenhouse gas.

      • IBNO

        Don’t let the 99% of scientists who agree that the “minor greenhouse gas” is driving global warming dissuade you from your head-in-the-sand denial

        • Trac

          Climate change is a fact. Global warming as it’s argued by the political hacks trying to sell carbon credits is an entirely different issue. Should we be the best stewards of the earth that we can be? “You Betcha” but try not to confuse good science with ideology IBNO. When talking about global warming, it’s best to define exactly what you mean.

          • IBNO

            I’m not talking about political hacks.

            And I use “global warming” instead of the better term “global climate change” because the effect of the increased concentrations of long-wave absorbing gases (CO2, CH4, H2O, O3 and CFCs) is a retention of heat in the system.

            Computer models projecting global warming are stunningly scientific. They’re based on observable data and hypotheses about how global climate works. When a model doesn’t accurately predict, it is changed or tossed in favor of a better model. That’s science.

            Carbon credits? Absolutely a political issue. “Political” comes from “the process of creating policy,” which is what a global climate change demands–new policy to address an environmental issue.

            Personally, I think carbon credits are fucking bullshit. But that doesn’t mean that someone can’t make them work. You’re right. It’s a political sell. But it is neither here nor there when addressing climate change that is already baked into the system.

    • IBNO

      Dumbshits. The study was published April 1st. It’s a hoax.

      Another clue–anytime a “researcher” makes definitive conclusions about causation (in this case, the guy recommending not ti let kids eat stuff with their front teeth).

      • Cormonster

        You sir, are the dumb shit. If you would have spent 1 minute hitting the links you would have realized that this was an actual published study. The head researcher was out of Cornell, which makes total sense.

        • MB30SD

          easy now big fella

        • IBNO

          OK, you’re right. I was wrong. I saw the “study published on April 1” and that was a red flag. So, it’s not a hoax. But it reads like one.

          Particularly this line:

          The study’s lead author Brian Wansink says he and his team found that the children who ate the chicken on the bone were twice as likely to disobey adults and twice as aggressive toward other kids.

          “So think twice if you have an option of giving your kids forks and knives to eat with, or hands. That’s one road, one step, toward better behaved kids.”

          Brian Wansink is a fucking idiot if he said that. ANY researcher knows the mantra: correlation does not equal causation.

          The kids might eat chicken on the bone because they’re more aggressive, not that the kids become more aggressive because they eat chicken on the bone.

          But then, I looked up Brian Wansink and he’s a Stanford PhD and former bigwig in the USDA.

          It’s still horseshit, and bad science. Expect a shit-ton of scientific scorn.

          In my field, a respected academic put his name on a complete piece of garbage and he caught so much crap for it, his reputation took a pretty serious hit. Methinks Wansink should be prepared for the same.

  • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

    http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/27179632-606/bears-gm-phil-emery-has-narrowed-his-list-to-players-who-can-start-now.html#.U2U_bYGSwUM

    Emery’s drafting a DT in the first – he as much says it here. Has to start now, also, so that crosses out CB. D-line is the most important part of the Defense he said. So Donald if he’s there, and Nix or maybe Hageman. If Pryor/Dix are higher on his board, then he’ll probably go with them as his BPA comment suggests, then grab Justin Ellis in the 2nd? If a draft is considered strong in CBs then the third round is a nice place to find one, considering that the need is not as great as the need for DT/S.

    • MB30SD

      Right. Sooo… fs, dt, cb.

      Not sure why we had to fight. I knew you’d eventually end up here.

      Hee hee

    • el_caney

      it is said that Emery is looking for hybrid CB-FS rounds 3-4, depends on the picks before,
      names of McGill , Hampton & Huff are starting to sound louder I think it was Hodge of CBS who report this.

      • MB30SD

        Honestly, I couldn’t give a smaller fuck if I was a midget about what happens in 4 on… as long as he nails 1, 2, and 3.

        • el_caney

          that´s why a month ago posted trade back, pack 2 and 3 rounds and fuck off the rest of the draft all defense and Forte´s bench.

    • there’s also a lot of talk about them loving Caraun Reid, a 3rd-4th round DT.

      I think Phil is keeping his options open. Don’t trust too much you hear in the week right before the draft.

      IMO it’s either Donald or Pryor, but I wouldn’t be shocked by Hageman, Bucannon, Mosley, or Fuller either.

  • Trac

    The draft was scheduled for May 8-10 rather than late April due to a conflict at Radio City Music Hall in New York. Interestingly, the event that necessitated the move was canceled in March.

    Emery said that the extra two weeks has been “very beneficial” for the Bears.

    “It’s allowed us to have less rushed conversations and to look at things from all different angles and to think future and now and to have those conversations and to come back and revisit and to try to look at fitting this piece of the puzzle from all different angles,” Emery said.

    • MB30SD

      Niiice.

  • el_caney

    It´s Draft time coming… BEAR DOWN!!

    http://youtu.be/f-eM_FPYOgg

    • gpldan from Eastern Front

      As M. Gustave would say, “what is that film about, darling?”

      • el_caney

        A hipster display of support..

  • AlbertInTucson

    NOT high on DeAnthony Thomas. Saw a LOT of him here in Pac 12 country and he was often a spectator at times you WOULD have thought him to be a prime option.

  • tobijohn

    Phil almost always says what he means and means what he says so those of us hoping for Jay’s eventual successor being picked in the later rounds better sober up:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/04/phil-emery-developing-late-round-quarterbacks-doesnt-work/

    • MB30SD

      #scienceworks

    • he’s also said in the past he wants a QB every year in the draft, and no way in hell he drafts a QB rd 1/2 every year. This one smells like BS to me.

      They don’t need to draft a QB, but I wouldn’t be shocked if they grab one in round 4 or later.

      • tobijohn

        Perhaps if a QB they have rated as a 2-3 rounder falls into the bottom half?

        • we’ll see. I think his thing about not drafting a QB outside of first 2 rounds is BS. I think he wants a QB here and just doesn’t want to tip his hand. Otherwise they sure wasted a lot of time meeting with some QBs who sure aren’t going in the first 2 rounds.

          There are a couple intriguing guys who fit their system pretty well outside the first 2 rounds. McCarron of Bama, Murray of UGA, Fales of SJSU are three that come to mind.

  • MB30SD

    http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2014/05/04/nd-snl-clippers-drama.cnn.html

    wow… just…. stop. Just please… end it now. Please. Continuing this garbaaage just sullys, well, this: http://www.criticalend.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/chevyandjon.jpg

  • Doc Nitty

    Chess anyone? Download chess by Post app on your phone. My username is docnitty. A while back some if us were talking about chessin it up. Cor? Was that you? Can’t remember who else. Who’s my Huckleberry?

    • Cormonster

      Are you using an android? What’s the app called? Can you make moves at your leisure, or do you have to play entire games at once? I would be up for it.

      • Doc Nitty

        It’s called Chess by Post. I use an iPhone but my cousin does not and we play all the time. Look for it and see. My cousin and I sometimes take a month to finish a game. If that app doesn’t work for you, find one that would work on iPhone and your phone and let me know.

        • Cormonster

          I just made a move. Gonna get my ass kicked the first few games. I’ve played very little in the last 5+ years. Name is the same as here.

        • MB30SD

          Put down the virtual wooden toy pieces and pick up the virtual cold hard steel again.

          Do it… do it.

          • Doc Nitty

            I’ve been playing ghosts online a bit lately.

          • MB30SD

            Really? You bought it?

            Come back to us doc. I’ll be on tonight after the kids go down at 8

    • Cormonster

      I know NewBear was game for some chess, and someone else. Maybe SCDave?

  • gpldan from Eastern Front

    Very odd simulation tool that shows the Texans should take Donald #1 overall, ahead of Clowney.

    http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2014/5/4/5680878/2014-nfl-mock-draft-chaos-theory-mock-draft-2-0-eagles

    • Trac

      That’s interesting. That simulation has the Bears selecting C.J. Mosely by a wide margin.

      • MB30SD

        Yeaaaaahhhhhh….

        • Trac

          You know it’s gonna go down. Will be great to have him on the Bears roster. He he.

          • MB30SD

            yeah, he’ll be super awesome for 4-5 games a year in his first 2 years before he completely breaks down and get’s sent to pasture (glue factory).

            Pass.

            (man I can just taste all the S’African goodness I’m going to get in my winnings! Mmmmmm biiiiiltooooooong!)

          • Trac

            If both your guy and my guy turn out to be beasts, which position would you rather fill? I’m trying to remember if I ever heard of a FS or CB being the heart and soul of the D? Help me out.

          • MB30SD

            Yes. Mike brown. If he could have stayed healthy.

            In seattle, who are always talked about as the heart of that d. Can you even name any of their lbs? I bet you know every one of their dbs though. Read any of the articles on thomas’ renewal? Him and a corner are considered the heart of that d.

            I’d MUCH rather have that set up in the league these days. Without even thinking about it for a second. In fact, it’s a pretty amazing change.

          • Trac

            I had a feeling you’d say that. Lach “was” the man, man.

          • MB30SD

            Yes, but on any other team (without a HOF game changing once in a decade IMLB) brown is the man.

            And you didn’t address my seattle proverb.

            He. He.

  • tobijohn

    FWIW, in his mock draft, Biggsy has Lovie grabbing Donald and us taking Pryor…

    • My best guess is round 1 goes like this (assuming no trade back):

      Donald if he’s there
      Pryor if Donald is gone
      Bucannon if Pryor/Donald both gone

      And there’s basically no way in hell all three of them will be gone IMO. So unless they trade back I’m expecting one of those three, most likely Pryor.

      Of course, this is Emery, so it will probably be some guy none of us have ever heard of.

      • tobijohn

        Yes, I hope he’s still smarting from his McClellin pick instead of being emboldened by his Long pick. True, different needs and circumstances then but this year there’s no reason not to do the obvious…

        • Hageman is the guy who could be the wild card in all this. I could see him falling in love with Hageman’s potential like he did Long.

  • BTW, my prediction for Bears picks first 4 rounds. What do you guys think? Who do you think they take?

    1: Calvin Pryor, S, Louisville
    2: Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood
    3: Caraun Reid, DT, Princeton
    4: DeAnthony Thomas, RB/WR/returner, Oregon

    rds 5/6 too hard to project individual players, but I think a TE is extremely likely at some point.

    • MB30SD

      think rds 2 & 3 are flopped and we don’t take some ivy league hero. I know you have a hardon for that guy data, but seriously maing. Him over an ealy or ellis? really?

      I would be pissed. Can you tell me the last ivy league guy to do really well in the NFL? I’m not being facetious, just never really heard of one *cough* Fits *cough*

      • I don’t have a hard on for him. I would MUCH rather have a guy like Will Sutton. But I’m hearing the Bears really like him.

        You may be right though. Entirely possible they go DT rd 2 and CB rd 3.

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      I can’t see them taking Desir with 2 and Reid with 3. To pass up a starting rotational DT in Rd 2 would be folly. To pick a Ivy League DT in Rd 3 instead of a CB or proven badass LB like Borland would also be out of place.

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD

    hey Corm, check THIS shit out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvsN0SoC9lU

    Boom.

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