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Chicago Bears Third Round Selection: Defensive Tackle Will Sutton, DT, ASU

| May 10th, 2014

Because I am a nice guy, I am moving Augsburger and Vandermoon into the final day. Both will compete tomorrow and we’ll give tickets away.

From CBS:
STRENGTHS: Has a short, compact build that gives him a natural leverage advantage over most NFL offensive linemen.

Times the snap well, flashing an explosive burst to slip through gaps. Possesses quick feet, balance and lateral agility to avoid cut-blocks. Accelerates very quickly to close on the ballcarrier. Possesses surprisingly strong and active hands to rip free from blocks and to rip away at the ball when he sees it exposed (three forced fumbles in 2012). Experienced at virtually every position along the defensive line. Instinctive defender who locates the ball well and hustles to get involved in the action. Peels away from blocks, spinning to rip away and pursue laterally or downfield, as needed. Good recognition of deception plays, reading and peeling off to blow up screens and draws. Showed his dedication to the program by earning the “Hard Hat” award for his work in the team’s offseason strength and conditioning program in 2010 (year he missed due to academics)… Appears to be significantly heavier, stronger than his listed size by ASU (6-1, 267). Good bloodlines. Father, Mickey, played in the NFL for five years as a defensive back and punt returner with the Los Angeles Rams, Green Bay Packers and Buffalo Bills.

WEAKNESSES: Obvious size limitations and may prove to be just a rotational defender at the next level. Short arms and can get locked out by the longer arms of offensive linemen. Possesses very good short-area quickness but reaches max speed quickly and appears to have only moderate straight-line speed for the position despite his size. Seems to tire easily. Will make a big play and then disappear for long stretches. Only has one season of sustained success at the FBS level.Compares To: Geno Atkins, DT, Cincinnati Bengals — Having increased his sack production each of his three seasons in the NFL, the 6-1, 300-pound Atkins has given hope to all undersized, quick-footed defensive tackles that they, too, can find a niche in today’s pass-happy NFL.

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  • Shady

    Compares to Geno Atkins? I like!!

    • if he’s back to 2012 form (weight suggests he is), he’s the closest thing to Aaron Donald in the draft. If we missed DOnald I wanted Sutton rd 2.

  • IBNO

    So Phil has emphatically squashed the Peanut-to-FS idea, even after 3 rounds of drafting no FS.

    Right now the depth chart says Steltz is the starter at FS, until Conte returns from injury.

    This is a HUGE problem.

    No one drafted after Round 3 can be expected to step in and start at FS. What FA are out there? Because, seriously, THERE IS VIRTUALLY NO ONE ON THE ROSTER WHO CAN START AT FS!

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Gregory.

      • IBNO

        I’m looking at the roster now and I don’t see anyone named Gregory.

        • MB30SD

          Catousse?

          • IBNO

            Un-hunh. Makes your heart flutter, don’t it?

            Hey, the Bears have #29 Danny McCray, who in the picture is wearing a Captain’s C on his Dallas jersey. Anyone know anything about him?

          • MB30SD

            yeah, read about him.

            He was a bad ass STer, but kinda got a a raw deal after he got injured his second year so said a cowboys fan. Dude said we might be able to turn that around. He’s big and fast… but data thinks he’s dogshit.

    • MD JEnnings will duke it out with Conte.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      I think it’s clear now that Phil went into the draft thinking we’re set at safety. Pryor was likely the next name after Fuller on Phil’s list.

  • Shady

    Audio is definitely NSFW Jokey.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    The best S option on the roster is Frey. Let’s do it.

    • IBNO

      Hmmm… you might be on to something.

      Bowman would’ve been a viable candidate, too.

    • IBNO

      #36 Sean Cattouse.

      That’s the new FS.

      Frey’s too small.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      I like that, a nickel is just another safety. Fuller to Nickel, Frey to Free.

    • SC Dave

      I think they are goading you, MB.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    We did it Data! We got one.

  • Now that you douches can’t spoil it for me, I’m back bitches.
    I like BOTH picks. Doesn’t matter what order. Sutton in the 2nd, Ego in the 3rd. Same result.
    Wet got our run-stuffer with a side of 3-tech
    We got our 3-tech with a side of run-stuffer.

  • Shady

    1:32 – 2:03

    OH MY! YES!!

  • I’ve been saying this since Conte watched the ball sail over his head. Emery LIKES Conte. He was never seriously going to replace him THIS year. MB hated every time I said it, but, truth bomb dropping like a Jerricho

    • IBNO

      Yeah, but even if Emery LIKES Conte, the surgery and the time he’ll HAVE to have off–plus the potential of re-injury–makes it a gamble to rely on Conte as THE FS on the team.

  • Ufficio

    It’s Tommie and Tank all over again!

  • MB30SD

    Emery is slowly salvaging the draft and the fact that we have one viable safety right now.

    One.

    Cook from fsu or the 6’3″ kid from Utah in 4

    • It’s rough, MB. All those safeties left are garbage. There might be a few like Baily from SC, but we’d be better off addressing other positions with superior ballers.

  • Dang, I was one pick off. I predicted Jeremy Hill to be the first HB off the board, and he went 1 pick after Sankey.
    Charles Sims, AKA, Forte JR also went higher than I expected. I guess they do watch film after all.

  • Someone, quick, go to South Beach and pull Rhodes from bar “Manhole”. We got men everywhere. Tobster, you’re the closest I think.

    • IBNO

      Yeah, just tell Rhodes he has to plug a gaping hole in the back of the defense, and he’ll sign for the vet minimum, too.

      • MB30SD

        ohhhhh… biiitch!

    • tobijohn

      I’ll give it a shot. What’s he look like these days?

  • I knew Nix would fall (them knees + fat = pass), but damn, man – cut a brotha a break. He shouldn’t have fallen that much. What drug did he take, blue meth?

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      Apparently Sutton has said he’s lost 30lbs since playing his senior year.

  • Shady
    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      That dude sounds like a less articulate Bill Burr on tranks. He treats meth-head airtime-killers like gurus. Brilliant.

  • Artoo

    Emery has put all of his time and focus the past two years on one side of the ball.

    If he gets this defense back in shape, just imagine what he can do when he can just draft to develop/build trade bait.

    • Shady

      Except for the fact he pretty much rebuilt the O-Line last year. Trying to do the same for the D-Line this year.

      • Artoo

        I didn’t word that very well. Basically, Emery focused on the offense last year and this year, he’s put more focus on the defense.

        Imagine when he’s just drafting to develop future talent and not just for needs.

        • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

          IN a modern cap era, that basically never happens.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

          I feel an offensive player coming in the next though. Running back please.

          To think we had our choice of the best RB in the draft as we so thought at 51. How things have changed.

      • trying? He already has. Look at that damn DL.

    • he devoted more draft capital to D than O in 2012/2013 combined:

      Offense: 1 (Long), 2 (Jeffery), 4 (Rodriguez), 5 (Mills), 5 (Jeffery trade), 7 (Wilson)

      Defense: 1 (Shea), 2 (Bostic), 3 (Hardin), 4 (Greene), 6 (Frey), 6 (Washington), 7 (McCoy)

  • Next on the check list, power HB, ILB, BPA (Safety, why not?)

    Power HB, you all know who I like.
    Andre Williams, 5’11-230

    ILB
    Christian Jones, 6’3 240

    Both are physical specimens and Jones provides versatility too.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      Williams sounds perfect. Beefy banger.

      • MB30SD

        That’s what she said

    • Cormonster

      I personally wasn’t that impressed with Williams. I would rather have James White (homer, I know). Small, but powerful and good between the tackles in short yardage. White is also a lot quicker at the snap of the ball. Williams may be powerful, but he seems to take too long to get going. That don’t work in the NFL. Penetration will stop him before he gets a chance to get going.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

        Why does reading ” powerful and good between the tackles” make me feel dirty ? A catholic reads that and feels shame for his thoughts. Jesus religion sucks.

  • Trac

    I hope Phil doesn’t have a problem trading players that don’t work out before they don’t work out.

  • Trac

    Factoid: Fuller is the first CB taken as early as #14 since Darrelle Revis in 2007.

    • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

      Last Bear 1st Round Corner?

      Walt Harris. Terminally under coached.

      • Trac

        Yeah but he played some good ball anyway if I remember correctly.

        • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

          Mostly for the Colts.

    • Cormonster

      Gilbert was taken before him.

      • and Milliner 9 last year, Claiborne 6 2012, Peterson 5 2011, etc.

        What this should say is Fuller first CB taken AT 14 since Revis in 2007.

      • Big Mike

        Kick
        Returner

  • This pick makes me SO FUCKING HAPPY!!!!!

  • Garrapollo to the Pats the “whoa” move of the night.

    • SC Dave

      Brady is getting up there; maybe the Pats are hoping Garrapollo to Brady is their Rodgers to Favre.

  • MB30SD

    I am coming around to the fact that emery has pulled another bad ass draft. ALL I need now is a kam chancellor like FS pick in the 4th tomorrow.

    Cook or McGill tomorrow might be it.

    Data, who you got? BC? $?

    • I’ll have to check out the remainder, but I’m with you. I’d prefer a 6’1 + S who can hit, but a lot of these later round FS are converted CBs, which is a real turnoff.

      I’d prefer a SS at this point.

      • MB30SD

        again, as data mentioned, the two guys I talked about (cook FSU and McGill Utah) were both FS that moved to corner or the other way around and were really successful at FS… so either one of those sounds like the best option in the 4th

        • McGill definitely has the size. Huff is a little small, but I love how the kid plays, and Emery seemed really interested.

          Also, Pierre Desir-my favorite CB outside of rd 1 in this draft-is somehow still on the board. If he makes it to their rd 4 pick I’d be just fine with doubling up.

          Fuller projects as a Woodson-like role, right? Moving all over the place, nickel, doing a lot of different things. Desir would be a more prototypical big outside CB to replace Tillman. Plenty of room for both of them IMO.

          • MB30SD
          • don’t care. I watch that kid play and he just has that “it” factor to me. Great instincts, great ball skills, very fluid hips.

          • I like Desir too. Peanut ran a slow 40.
            Pyror at S and Desir at CB…alternate reality.

          • I’d go both at CB. Fuller at nickel, Desir outside.

            I like Fuller at nickel. He’s great against the run, matches up with TEs well, and can blitz a little bit too.

          • Cormonster

            That was my first thought on Fuller yesterday after reading up on him and looking at his stats.
            Months ago I thought your were crazy thinking the Bears would switch for 4-3 to 3-4 defenses.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            We don’t really have a nose tackle for a 3-4 – that’s why I was hoping Nix would fall to us, and he did. Ratliff is lighter these days, but we don’t have a fatty. Maybe he nails his colors to the wall tomorrow and drafts Ellis!

            Just to think … we could have had Ealy / Sutton …. Nix/ Sutton … but who knows what their stories are at this stage.

          • Cormonster

            Not a 3-4 in the traditional NFL mode, but a hybrid where DL guys move around to different gaps before the snap, with 1-3 guys standing and potentially blitzing or dropping back in coverage in different combinations from play to play.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            Where did all that 3-4 crap come from anyway?I haven’t heard Tucker talking 3-4 or hybrid.

          • bearsfantillend

            it came from the same people that thought we should kept McCown instead of Cutty, or the people that think Ford is the greatest since sliced bread, or the people that think space aliens have infiltrated all aspects of our lives and are on the verge of taking over the world. you know them its the crazy ones.

          • a 4-2-5 is just a standard 4-3 nickel D. I think we’ll see a lot of nickel 3-3-5 looks, with McClellin as a LB who’s acting more like a DE. This is what SF, NE, DEN, NO, and SEA all do. It’s becoming the new thing in the NFL.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            I’d love to see us get either Desir or Bullough tomorrow.

        • “Lacks the physicality and toughness desired at safety”
          This is why I don’t like converted CBs at S.

    • MB30SD

      btw, I say that because I actually REALLY like the fuller pick, I just wanted a FS. Emery must not have loved the top two, and probably didn’t expect Buchannon AND ward to go so early, never mind both in the first.

      I think the sutton pick is awesome, I don’t know enough about ego, but I have to trust emery’s eval there since he didn’t take the guys we were thinking that were still available (shocker).

      If he can find a FS in the 4th that ends up being actually good, and wins the starting spot in camp, I will have to give this draft an A… even though it didn’t come about the way I wanted.

      Of course those are all big ifs, and I’m also assuming ego and sutton pan out to be what we think they can.

      • Ego is exactly like Long to me. Still super raw, but has all the tools.

        It worked out with Long, but bombs horribly with many. Nice thing is, at least if it bombs horribly with Ego he’s still a competent body to throw out there a few snaps who can hold up some against the run.

      • el_caney

        No quality at SF unless Bailey comes and Mundy moves to FS.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

          But a shit-load going on at DL rotation, with top corners in residence, and hopefully solid LBs.

          Safety is the only real position of concern on the Bears as things stand, and that’s not a bad thing. How many teams can say they have only one hole?

          • MB30SD

            it’s a hole in a very bad place mate.

          • el_caney

            Ok. Thats why 9 new DL players to cover that weakness.

    • Marqueston Huff. Or McGill. My guess says Huff. Emery reportedly really likes him. Athletic.

      • MB30SD
        • Emery said in his presser he thinks he can land a starting FS in the draft still. IMO That’s one of those 2 guys. But we’ll see.

          • MB30SD

            Erik threw out cook from FSU who played on a great D. Would be nice to get one of them and have him pan out.

          • DaBearsBlog

            I still think we heard an awful lot about the Princeton kid.

          • MB30SD

            you think he takes 3 DTs? And we have one starting S?

          • Reid can probably play S better than these leftover Safeties.

          • MB30SD

            click the link above… I KNOW he’s better than conte.

          • “Projects ideally as a cornerback in the pros”

            Another CB/FS…ughhgg.

          • MB30SD

            he was successful at FS in college.

          • So was Conte.

          • MB30SD

            nope. conte never played FS. he was always a corner.

          • I think he wanted Reid round 3, but then Sutton was there.

          • I’m not sure if that’s a delusional statement, or a totally depressing assessment of our S situation, or both.

          • IMO he meant more long-term starter. I think it will be Mundy and Conte/Jennings (IMO Conte) this year.

          • Mundy and Conte both competent behind a good DL, IMO, and they have a good DL now.

            WOn’t excite you, but won’t kill you either

          • MB30SD

            Did you just say he won’t kill you???

            Let me show you something data: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7em_q-zEeA

          • don’t link that shit on here. No way in hell I’m clicking on that. I know what play that’s gonna be.

          • MB30SD

            then don’t say shit like that. You fucking KNOW we can’t have that guy out there again man.

            He is utter dogshit. Does not belong on the field. ever again as far as i’m concerned. EVER.

            And click the fucking link to remind yourself. watch it and watch it twice. you dave, whoever else thinks it’s ok to keep that fuck on our team. He doesn’t deserve to wear that jersey. it’s a disgrace.

          • tobijohn

            Hey, wait a minute. Didn’t your buddy Chris have a TD saving INT earlier in the game?

          • MB30SD

            yes, if I remember correctly, he actually got that coverage right and rodgers threw the ball right to him. It’s the big plays you totally whiff on that kill you TJ, not the ones you’re gifted.

          • tobijohn

            So something along the lines of even a broken clock is right twice a day…

          • MB30SD

            No, he’s had plays… He’s In The NFL FOR A reason, just should never have been made a fs. He was a corner his entire career… should have stayed there.

            He can’t trusted as your last line of defense. Period. Kinda simple based on 2 years of tape. Sticking up for him is ridiculous

          • tobijohn

            I’m not sticking up for him, I’m just baiting you…

          • MB30SD

            Wasn’t talking about you actually my maings.

            Daaave.

          • tobijohn

            I’m pretty sure Chris is a cat person too…

          • el_caney

            Some vallium??

          • SC Dave

            Lighten up, you just look like an asshole.

          • MB30SD

            fuck you dave. I don’t really give a rat’s ass what you think of me. ; )

            And trust me, I look no where close to the asshole you looked like after you absurd cutty rant.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            See? Scared to watch? Burn your retinas it will …. as ye lies there in the cold water …. lookin up at your past through the riptide….. those dead eyes fixin’ on the light …. waitin’ ….

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            I love that commentary. That’s class. And truly brutal by Conte. Playing a different sport. Be gone. We should have gone with Pryor – ended this once and for all – grabbed the corner in rd 2 and Sutton in three. Who’s with me? TO THE TIME-TRAVEL-DRAFT-MACHINE !

          • MB30SD

            fuuuuuuuuuck

  • 9ers are like a 500 GTO. Gonna power run it down your throat.
    Gore, Hyde, and oh yeah, Lattimore.
    Good thing we got some beef up front to deal with teams like that.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      But nobody at Safety to wrap them up and stop the long ones.

  • Viva

    DA HAWKCSE

  • Did every team draft a WR or TE except us in the first 3 rounds? Data?

    • I highly doubt that. Not 32 of them combine, and some teams (Jax/Phi) doubled up.

    • Shady

      I know BAL went all defense.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Baltimore got one TE…they had a lot more picks.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      The patriots didn’t. The Vikings didn’t. The Texans didn’t .From the top of my head.

  • Viva

    Something tells me we end up with McCarron

    • MB30SD

      like that kid, but would rather take a flyer on a FS.

      VIVA!!!

      • I like his GF better.

        • MB30SD

          me too

          • tobijohn

            Except her breasts are, you know…

      • el_caney

        Dion Bailey & Skov, and Job will be done..

    • I like the kid from Wyoming-Brett Smith-or David Fales from SJSU. Think they’re both good fits for Emery’s offense.

      But I think McCarron fits the system pretty well too.

  • MB30SD

    just listened to a guy on the score. Said emery stuck to his board 100%. Liked fuller much more than any of the safeties and stuck to it doggedly. Thinks he did a great job and that we should all be fired up.

    Thinks he wants a bunch of dbs who can move around in creative D schemes.

    • Shady

      It’s all about…. Matchups.

    • BerwynBomber

      The DB take to me make sense as Fuller looks super versatile. Still, who knows what PE would have done had Donald been available.

      • MB30SD

        I think he might have gone:

        Donald
        Buchannon
        Ego
        CB

        if he’d had his druthers… or, Fuller, Buchannon, Ego, Sutton… this last version would have been my draft wet dream.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          I had and still have many doubts about the fact that Emery would have drafted Donald if available. The undersized one dimensional 3T has almost nothing to do with The Plan above “he wants a bunch of dbs who can move around in creative D schemes”. You know ? If you use such a 3T you can’t be very creative… it’s pure Tampa 2. And can’t use lots of dbs, because you can’t stop the run. I think he had a vision and drafted based on that… a pure 3T isn’t part of that vision. So I doubt he would have drafted Donald instead of Fuller (or Gilbert).

          • MB30SD

            I’m with you but i think he might have wanted him. Just a gut feel maings

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Bingo !!! Have run stoppers on DL, play nickel and mix shit up. He drafted physical, strong, versatile players. I called it and love it.

      • MB30SD

        you did maings. impressive.

  • Guys left that I really like, in no particular order:

    CB Pierre Desir. Not a need by any stretch of the imagination, but I freaking love this kid and think he’ll be a star. Was dreading MIN/GB taking him at end of 3rd round

    LB Jordan Tripp. Size of a LB, moves like a S, tackles like a LB. HUGE sleeper at 4-3 OLB IMO. May be the best run and cover LB in the draft. (also like LB Shane Skov)

    QB Aaron Murray. Just seems like a perfect fit in that Trestman offense. Would be thrilled if he’s somehow there in round 5.

    RBs…. so many RBs. Kadeem Carey from Zona is a beast. Seastrunk is a shifty little bugger. De’Anthony Thomas is Darren Sproles 2.0. Isaiah Crowell is a specimen.

    S… don’t LOVE any of these guys, but I think Marqueston Huff and McGill are the best S left. Dion Bailey is intriguing, but LB going to S scares me.

    WR… this one is a big-time sleeper, but Michael Campanero. He does a little bit of everything and would be a perfect slot WR in Chicago. Small, but fast (and more quick too) with great hands. Good ST guy too. ANd some think he might go undrafted. Would love him as a UDFA, but rd 6 good too.

    • no TEs left that I absolutely love, but AC Leonard, Tre Burton, or Colt Lyerla could all be solid IMO. Lyerla scares me with drugs, especially coke. That’s addictive. Would love him as high-upside UDFA though.

      • What would be your ideal 4, 5, 6, 6?

        • honestly, it would probably go like this. Don’t hate me, but it ignores S:

          4-Pierre Desir (just too good to pass up at this point, IMO. only have Jennings, Frey, Fuller under contract for 2015 right now)

          5-Aaron Murray (if he falls this far)

          6-best RB available (most likely Crowell)

          6-either a sleeper S you like if one falls (maybe Sunseri, the other Bama S?) or a TE (AC Leonard or Burton would be good here)

      • el_caney

        Remember Fendy ..??

    • BerwynBomber

      I like Murray too. Would like to see Trestman QB whisper to him. Kid carried GA. Probably did more for his team than any major QB beside Manziel. And yes, Winston included. He’s small though and I’m not sure about arm strength.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      Kadeem Carey – I’d love it. Great fourth round pick for us.

    • el_caney

      I Think it’s time pick Dion Bailey, a former LB. McGill is a proyect that needs couching to learn to tackle, besides of that it’s time to look to LB or RB Skov, Bullough, storm and so on…

  • Here’s my one BIG worry with our defensive acquisitions thus far.

    THEY GET PRESSURE, BUT NOT SACKS.

    Houston, Young, Ego (pressures, not many sacks)
    Paea, Ratliff and Izzy aren’t really here for sacks.
    That means that the “closers” are Allen, Collins, Sutton (Shea?).

    Now, scheme and coaching could go a long way, but aside from Allen, we really don’t have anyone who’ll command a double team, or who teams will have to game plan against.

    Hopefully Houston and Collins can make their potential a reality, but right now it’s merely potential, at least in the sacks column.

    • I’m reserving judgment on Houston until we see him playing with an NFL defense around him. OAK D has been shit. Tough to get more than pressure when you’re all the opponent worries about.

      But even if you simply have enough guys getting pressure, that can disrupt QBs. Force them to pass early. Or mess up their footwork. Or push them into somebody else for a sack. I’m fine with getting a lot of pressure on a QB. Sooner or later sacks will follow.

    • el_caney

      Sacks is overrated, if the QB has 3 seconds left to throw, it’s probable he glambles or forces plays.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      We’ve got Bostic, Greene and Fuller that can blitz for us. I believe we’ve already laid out the cash for our sacks in the shape of Mr. Allen. The guy that we took instead of Jairus Byrd and TJ Ward..

  • BerwynBomber

    After watching more film on Fuller, I’m sold. Kid looks like he can be a stud. And perfect CB build too, other than some 6’4″ badass CB who does not exist. Ferguson seems like the reach so far. Don’t know enough about Sutton to offer a worthwhile opinion.

    • Fuller is our version of Vaccaro, minus the FS, though he might do some of that too.

      I think Ego has thrown some for a loop because we’re not used to drafting DTs like that.
      He’s a two-gap DT, and often they don’t have huge sack totals (like Ratliff).

      I like both of them.

      So far, I like this draft. I’m glad Emery didn’t reach for a S in the 2nd or 3rd, you know Angelo would have drafted some bum.

      • BerwynBomber

        Fuller will be better than Vacarro. I think it would be a mistake to convert him to S, even if that is our more immediate need. He’s built in the Tillman mode. A rangy guy who can cover almost anyone and also give badass run support from the CB spot. In fact, he might be a better pure athlete than Peanut was and a more versatile cover guy. (If Peanut had one weakness over his career it was against smaller, speedier guys.) Anyway, he’s the heir apparent to #33 aka the best CB in Bears history. And given Peanut’s injuries last year, I wouldn’t be shocked to see Fuller start a few games in ’14.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

          Fuller will start from day one as Nickel, and they’re basically safeties anyway. Like the pick but you know Pryor was the name below it. FS was more of a need at that point IMO. i wanted to see DT / S / CB addressed in the first three. But if he goes S in the fourth then we’re ignoring the offensive side of the ball, the last 3 picks should be on offense if we grab a safety.

          • BerwynBomber

            As much as we have a more pressing need at the safety spots, I still think a guy like Fuller – a top-notch CB with reach — is harder to find.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            Or if you’re Johnny Football …. a WR is harder to find. Ouch Johnny! They could had Watkins!

  • My ideal day 3.
    4. HB Andre Williams. If Forte goes down, are we really all-in on Ford? If that happens, Williams can come in and bulldoze, and Ford can be 3rd down back. Also, he would spell Forte on those short yards/goaline, and preserve his body. All it takes is one awkward hit. 9ers have 3 starting HBs on cheap. That’s smart.
    5.QB. Boyd. At this spot, he’s value. Plus, none of that crazy talk about a 5th rounder replacing Cutler. This is with an eye toward that $100M.
    6. LB Christian Jones. Just a 6’3 240 LB from FL who can fly. Can learn while contributing on specials.
    6. S. Pick one out of a hat, or Dion Baily, USC.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      Solid. But why waste a pick on S? Is Dion starting one day? Camp bodies we have at S.

  • BerwynBomber

    Btw, I’m not sold on either Minny’s or the Kittens’ drafts. Bridgewater could be a game-changer, though, and the Van Noy kid from BYU was a big-time playmaker the few times I caught a BYU game. The Cheese draft seems like ours: solid.

    • The Cheese always draft oddly. Dudes that totally fly under the radar. Recently, it hasn’t worked out as much, but they tend not to bust.
      Bridgewater is a very odd pick. Not because of Bridgewater, but because Norv Turner LOVES Big Framed/Big Armed gunslingers like Rivers. Bridgewater is antithetical to that.
      But my guess is AP makes them more conservative. Basically they want a game-managing QB.
      The Kitties are the kitties. They’ll find a way to fuck it up and wind up 3rd or 4rth in the division.

      • BerwynBomber

        Ebron, IMV, was the one first round pick of the NFC North that seemed questionable. Fuller, Dix and Bridgewater all make sense to some degree, even if the latter might be a reach. But the Lions drafting a hybrid TE that early? Sketchy to me. And hardly seems like a pressing need for that team. But who knows, maybe he works out and much as I think Caldwell is just another HC it would not take much to be an improvement over Gym Shorts.

        • SC Dave

          The idea is to take pressure of Megatron. Just like Jeffery did for Marshall,.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

        Having AP retards them, which I like. They build around him instead of around a QB.

  • BerwynBomber

    Anyone else think St. Louis is about to become a load? Guess it comes down to Bradford, but damn, they seem to have a lot of decent parts on that team, especially on D. Helluva division.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      And there you have it. Sam Bradford. The weakest link.

      • SC Dave

        Perhaps so, but he has played behind some pretty shitty Olines.

        • MB30SD

          Always sticking up for the shitbird… were you beaten up a lot growing up… or still today.

          Wouldn’t be too much of a shock to be honest. Smh.

  • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

    The Falcons drafted that idiot Hageman. The man that said this : “”It takes a man to know his flaws. I’ve known since Day One, playing D-tackle, my pad level sucks. My hip mobility, my ankle mobility … sometimes I take plays off,” he said.

    Way to sell yourself brah.

    • SC Dave

      Depends on whether he’s motivated to *fix* them.

  • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt
  • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt
    • he’s already back down to 290, which is what he played at in 2012 when he was Aaron Donald.

  • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

    Oh MB you’ll love this.

    5th round : LB Telvin Martin. 6’3 213lbs. 4.41 in the 40. There’s our strong safety.

    If McGill is there then absolutely steal him. Also 6’3 213. Peanut goes down, he goes in, Fuller stays at Nickel. I like.

    Martavis Bryant anybody? 4.34 in the 40, 6’4. Insurance for the Beastlies/ I’m not in the Marquess Wilson boat.

    • MB30SD

      Sure, we can give that a shot… DL is ‘fixed’

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    wrong topic

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