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Charles Tillman Returns to Chicago & All is Right With the World (Mine, at least)

| March 16th, 2014

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I remember sitting in that beautiful stadium they’ve got down there in Nashville. Right off the water. Lower Broadway’s honky tonks  audible from my seat. I remember seeing Matt Hasselbeck throw passes to receivers and expect those receivers to hold onto the ball. The silly man actually believed his receivers had the option! He should have known better.  Charles “Peanut” Tillman did not force one or two fumbles that afternoon. He forced four, cementing his legacy as the greatest forcer of fumbles the NFL has ever seen. And in my mind, on that warm November day in Tennessee, Tillman cemented his place in Canton.

For me there are three types of players comprising an NFL roster. First are the brand players. These are the individuals fans associate exclusively with their favorite team and would be greatly upset to see play for anyone else. Second are the mercenaries. These are the players brought in from other teams and the goal of the organization is to get as much production for the price tag as possible. (Mercenaries rarely see out the length of their contract.) Third is everybody else. The role players. The bottom third of the fifty-three.

Tony Fiammetta and Nate Collins are role players. Julius Peppers and Jermon Bushrod are mercenaries. Charles Tillman is the definition of a brand player. But the Bears did not pay him $3.5M because of brand awareness. They paid him $3.5M because he can still play at a supremely high level.

Tillman is not a player physically breaking down, even at thirty-three years old. Last year’s season-ending injury was more of a fluke than anything else. From an article at ESPN:

“I knew something happened in the second half,” Tillman said. “I don’t know exactly what play, I just remember shoving Calvin [Johnson] on one play and I felt something kind of strain, perhaps tear. I just felt a sharp pain.

“Yeah [they told me it was torn], but it’s still being evaluated.”

Despite the apparent torn triceps muscle, Tillman managed to finish the game, recording five tackles and two pass break-ups. He was beaten by Johnson for what turned out to be a game-winning 14 yard touchdown pass with 2:22 remaining.

Tillman refused to say that the triceps injury affected his performance.

“I don’t think so,” he said. “I think Calvin is a good receiver and he had a good game.”

In the nobody-can-remember-ten-minutes-ago world we live in (A plane is missing, what’s Ukraine?!) it is easy to forget Charles Tillman is only a year removed from his best season as a professional. While he had only three interceptions in 2012, he scored three touchdowns. He forced ten fumbles. He was named first team All Pro for the only time in his career.

What was most impressive about 2012 was Tillman’s performance against Calvin Johnson as the monster was in the midst of one of the greatest receiving seasons the league has ever seen. In a year where Megatron caught 122 balls for nearly two thousand yards (averaging 122.8 yards a game), Peanut held him to 3-34 and 5-72. No touchdowns. Little impact. Anyone who thought Tillman a system corner thought again. He was never a system corner. He was a great corner in a system that devalued the position.

And let’s not forget what the reigning Walter Payton Man of the Year means in the city of Chicago. His charitable work is the real deal, forged through the life-threatening heart ailment his daughter faced. His work has aided (at least in part) nearly a million Chicago-area children and their families. One needs only to turn on CNN these days to realize Chicago is not a city that can afford to lose individuals like Charles Tillman.

I understand the difficulties organizations face due to the restrictions of the salary cap. But football, to the diehard fan, is still about investing emotionally in a large group of men you don’t know because they are wearing a particular shirt and hat. Some of those men are criminals. Some of those men are morons. Charles Tillman isn’t just a great football player. He’s a great man. The Chicago Bears are far easier team to root for when he is donning #33.

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  • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

    We love you ‘nut. Welcome back.

  • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

    With respect to forced fumbles, Peanut is #7 on the list, though he is the only CB in the top 20.

    http://www.playerfilter.com/nfl/most-forced-fumbles/#/g,u;ffum,desc,r;deftd;dintc;dsack;tot&s=t&gtf=career&limit=180

    • Johnathan Wood

      take out forced fumbles from hitting the QB when he doesn’t see it coming. That’s just a hit with a sloppy/unaware QB.

      Tillman forces fumbles on WRs/TEs/RBs who know they’re coming. That’s incredible.

      • tobijohn

        Excellent point. And looking at the highlight clips, you can see most of them trying to really secure the ball prior to Tillman getting there.

        • Cormonster

          In response to a post yesterday, I do know a very smart Packer fan. He knows more about pro and college football than anyone I know. He’s an athletic director at a western college. Been friends with him since childhood and went to college together. Haven’t heard from him on the Peppers signing, which is strange.

          Favre was his favorite player until he went to the Vikings. Since then, his favorite player (and his young son) is Peanut. He texted me “made my day when Peanut signed. Where he should be. ” Dude’s a great sport. We both love the rivalry, and talk before and after almost every Bears-Packer game.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Absolutely. 18 of the top 20 are either DL or LBs.

      • SC Dave

        They didn’t keep the stat when Butkus played.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          1991 is when they started recording FF’s, I think. I wonder what Butkus’ numbers were. I’d guess every second tackle was either a fumble or a concussion.

  • Max

    Agreed on pretty much every point

  • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

    http://www.acmepackingcompany.com/packers-free-agency-2014/2014/3/15/5511864/packers-sign-julius-peppers-reactions-packers-players-on-twitter#comments

    They seem to think they’ve hit the jackpot and it was a simple case of “we couldn’t afford him” … then it just turns into a slag-fest on Jared Allen.

    • johnnywad

      Packers fans should worry more about blocking the unblockable Shea than what Peppers is going to do for them.

      • Big Mike

        Spit coffee out when I saw this. Then the irrational optimistic kool-aid drunk part of my brain said “what if Shea isn’t a bust and plays like a first round pic at SAM?” My guess is he doesn’t beat out Bostic or Greene. But what if….. 6’3″ 250 4.6 40yd dash time. Btw this 40 time would be top 5 in this years combine and Shea is 2-3 inches taller and 20-40 lbs bigger than the faster guys. Hmmmm

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Should have been Urlacher’s heir. Straight to the LB room to learn from the best … but Lovie knew better.

          • Big Mike

            If they wanted a DE, why didn’t they draft one? There were a handful of pretty solid LBs in that draft. If they wanted a DE, why not draft one? Shea had 5th round value on some boards. As an OLB, he’s the same size and just as fast as this year’s top OLB prospect Khalil Mack. Oh and I just revisited McClellin’s combine stats page.. 19 reps at 225? For a DE?

            It would be a huge bonus if Chicken Dinner can become an impact SAM LB. Like a free #1 draft pick…

  • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

    Apparently Urlacher had a rule – nobody was allowed to wear sleeves. Peanut checks out of cold games!

  • Viva

    PEANUT!!!!

  • Johnathan Wood

    Brilliant article. Perfectly put.

    I would 10000000000x rather see Peanut in the HOF than Urlacher, even though I think Urlacher gets in an Peanut (tragically) does not. (they both deserve it, IMO)

  • tobijohn

    On a more serious note, anything on how his rehab is going? I haven’t been able to find anything on that..

    • EnderWiggin

      I think he was probable for the playoffs if we made it. So my guess is he is good to go.

      • Johnathan Wood

        they announced sometimes towards the end of the season he was out even if they made the playoffs. I imagine he’ll be full speed by camp.

        But with a veteran it’s often smart to limit practice reps. He doesn’t need them all that much.

        • EnderWiggin

          tru dat.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Tillman must retire as a Bear. He’ll never be a bad player if you know how to use him. I would love to see him play the Charles Woodson role… take on the TE who always kill the Bears and room the field making plays. I want him in the center of the field where the action is because he’s a play-maker. Mare chances he gets, more plays he makes. It would benefit the Bears big time, pitting such a leader in the middle of the field helping people out. We need that… badly.

    • MB30SD

      So bard, you said you’re a redskins fan… why are you here?

      • Come for the Bears, stay for the alien boobs.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Try using his name, brah!

        • MB30SD

          It was a typo. And a real question, not smack. I’m one of the guys who’s already told barb i enjoy his perspective here. Just curious why he’s on a bear’s blog is he’s a redskins fan.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Don’t be silly. It was a joke.. a good one that time. A context shot about the term ‘american’. PS: I dislike the Washington Redskins. That division is disgusting.

        • MB30SD

          thought so. I like your sense of humor barb. btw, I picture you looking like Mirko Cro Cop Filipović.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Bad, bad, bad. He’s croatian. That’s different blood, different religion, different region. Not that I give a fuck about these stuff. Get this…americans used my home town’s airfield to bomb Serbia when these guys where in a bloody war with Croatia. It’s 40 miles from the Serbian border. But I get your point. I will not picture you cause you’re not a hot crazy chick… as in female.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Tillman in the middle, yup. I always felt that Barb, but everybody – including Tillman – thinks it’s a bad idea. Put the cat amongst the pigeons. More INTs and more FFs … doesn’t matter if you’ve lost a step. Sure of it.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        More chances, more plays. Yes, the age is a factor, but the most important trait would be the leadership in in the middle of the field and the unpredictability such move could bring. I know it will not happen cause he doesn’t want it… but the Bears should do it, if it’s the best interest of the team. The bad news is that our DC is Mel Tucker…he doesn’t have the charisma & brains to make it happen, even if he thinks it would bring great success.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Peanut said he wouldn’t do it .. .but I’m thinking … if I’m paying your wedge .. yes you will.

  • MikeV

    “and all is right with the world.” Amen. I would have been more upset with Peanut leaving the Bears than any player in recent memory.

  • In honor of the return of the Jedi, I shall temporarily change my handle.

  • We got insane depth at the CB position. Jennings, Peanut, Bowman, Hayden, Frey. That’s really refreshing.

    Hopefully we blow some ppl out this year so we can rest Nut, Briggs and Ratliff for our playoff run.

    Bear down, Bitches!

    • Cormonster

      Did the Bears sign Bowman yet?

      • EnderWiggin

        Nope.

        • Really? I thought we did. I correct my statement.

          We got sane depth. Jennings, Peanut, Hayden, Frey.

          Bear down, bitches!

          • Johnathan Wood

            Hayden/Frey are both pretty much only nickel guys and are likely competing for one roster spot.

            I expect a rookie draft pick to be 3rd outside CB and a young guy to earn 5th CB/ST role in camp.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Nor Wooten. That means we have Bass, Washington ( OLB now or DE?), Houston and Young as our ends. Likely one of the first two gets cut and hopefully we draft Superman in the first.

          • EnderWiggin

            We need to keep fingers crossed. Injuries up front would do it again to us..

  • EnderWiggin

    Has Eben Britton gotten any hits in FA?
    Having a 6th lineman know the offense makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

    • tobijohn

      This looks like a fairly accurate list of Bears free agents so far unsigned. Some we know will not be back (Podlesh, Bush, Hester) and a few I suppose we hope aren’t back. Not sure why they have Jordan Senn as unsigned. I’m also confused as to why the talk about Blake Costanzo as being gone. I thought he was considered a ST standout. Then again, Tim Shaw was as well a few years back and they got rid of him too:

      http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/nfl/chicago-bears/

      • I think we all assume that Senn was brought in to replace Costanzo, but maybe Emery waits to see who actually wins that battle.

        I would like Britton back too. He’s versatile, and could fill in for whomever goes down (except Garza).

        Not sure how much cap room we have available now. Data?

        • tobijohn

          The guy with the Ed Grimley look over at the local CBS Sports said about $5M but who knows. And for those of you who do not know who Ed Grimley is:

          • $5M. Damn. We’re cutting it close. Draft classes cost about $5M to sign. And most teams leave about $2-3M as emergency funds. (In case injuries take their toll during the season).

          • tobijohn

            There’s that “Top 51” rule plus I think you have until just before the start of the season to actually get straight…

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Yeah, our FA period is over. All draft now. I’m guessing 2 immediate starters – and three moving forward – come out of this draft.

        • Johnathan Wood

          they’re gonna cut Weems and/or Bennett at some point. Weems saves $1.1M, Bennett $2.45M.

          But yeah, FA is pretty much over for them. Minimum contracts only at this point. UNLESS they want to touch Cutler’s deal (can convert salary to signing bonus at will, spreading cap hit out over 5 years), which I don’t think they do.

          • tobijohn

            I guess then that this is the beginning of the offseason doldrums. Nothing to do now but wait for the draft…

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          These dudes seem like some of the best in cap stuff : http://overthecap.com/ . The Bears have 7.7 mil without the Tillman sign. They can free money up with ease.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Lookin’ at you Briggsy!

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I’m more of a Tillman-Corey Gaham mix type of a guy than a Briggs type. I like to keep a low profile…as you can see. Hahaha.

          • MB30SD

            ho ly fucking sheite muslim

            Brandon Hardin – $295,688 in dead salary this year.

            WITF!!!!!! Jesus.

          • NewBearInTown

            Rookie contracts are guaranteed. Nothing you can do about that one.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            And so they should be. Just watched an interview with Terry Crews. He ‘retired’ from the NFL completely broke, after being with something like 7 teams in 8 years (or 6 in 7). Ended up sweeping floors in a factory, before being legendary in White Chicks and Idiocracy.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            It could be cheap one if Emery learns his lesson. Along with that year’s first round pick. I like the ‘taking risks in my first year mentality’ only if you keep it tight every year after that or at least until you win a Superbowl.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Did Mannelly officially retire? There’s Sherrick McManis, Cohen, Bowman …. but no money left.

        • tobijohn

          Not to my knowledge. He had some offseason surgery and both he and the Bears were waiting to see how the recovery went before a decision was made…

        • Johnathan Wood

          anybody signed for a veteran minimum deal-which almost all those guys would be-counts as hardly any space against the cap. Only about $100k, because they’re simply replacing a slightly smaller deal.

          Also: hell no on Cohen.

    • Johnathan Wood

      The longer Britton sits without a nibble, the better the odds he’s back. Would absolutely love that. Almost a must at this point, IMO, but they don’t have much $$ if somebody else tosses more at him.

  • Doc Nitty

    Good post, Jeff. I couldn’t agree more. I just wish they would have given him two years.

    Oh by the way, seeing Julius in packer green is going to be hard to swallow. What an ass-hole move.

    • Trac

      In a way it is proof our opponents feared/game planned for him. That’s a pretty high compliment that they paid as much for him that they did. Also, he went to a winner. What does that tell you?

      There’s so much involved here. Lets whoop his ass on the field, there’s no better way to get even than that.

    • SC Dave

      It’s not an asshole move any more than Cutler, Bushrod, DJW, etc., signing with Chicago.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        None of those guys moved to bitter rivals though. There isn’t a bigger F-you than to move from Chicago to GB, or maybe GB just gets to appreciate what we had more than other teams e.g. Jimmy Mac and Mongo.

      • Doc Nitty

        What Irish said, Dave. If you can’t see that you’re just trying to be contrarian.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Was anyone else interested in Pep? Did he sign with them to make some retarded point?

      • SC Dave

        Maybe because they offered him the best contract?
        Maybe because he thinks that with a healthy Rodgers they can win the Super Bowl?

  • bearsfantillend

    there should at least be a bronze cast of Peanut’s fist in Canton. PEANUT PUNCH!!!

  • MB30SD

    you guys are going to love this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld_tg4W7Hf8

    Maher’s an asshole btw. (ps. was that Salman Rushdie?!)

  • tobijohn
    • Bender McLugh

      of the list of unsigned I want Woot back the most, then J. Anderson and Bowman.

      Unsigned: LB James Anderson; CB Zackary Bowman; OT Eben Britton; DT Landon Cohen; LB Blake Costanzo; WR Devin Hester; LS Patrick Mannelly; CB Sherrick McManis; DT Henry Melton; OT Jonathan Scott; SCraig Steltz; S Anthony Walters (restricted; not tendered); DT Corey Wootton; S Major Wright.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Don’t forget Steltz!

        (ducks)

        • Bender McLugh

          HA.

  • MB30SD

    You guys checking out The Cosmos with ND Tyson?

    Good shit

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Love me some Prof. Tyson. Check out his stuff on stage as part of panels. It gets ugly when the string theory nutters share the stage. He’s great at making comparisons and analogies.

    • Bender McLugh

      Neil is doing an awesome job. I was surprised to see McFarlane being the executive producer. He talked about it on Fallon (or Craig Fergusen maybe), how he was a huge nerd and loved the original series. I’ve been using the book as my mouse pad for the last year…… I know I know, don’t be all jelly.

      • Jokey

        Not a slam, but the book is awesome. I read it then decided to major in Physics.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Good for you Jokey. I read the Dancing Wu-Li Masters every now and then to try and keep the fires stoked.

          So do you teach it now, or do something completely different?

          • Jokey

            I’ve been doing some form of software engineering and/or ecommerce for 20 years since then. I’ll have to check out the book you mentioned. This is great too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bATyoYzlObY

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Ha. I left the world of software for warmer climes and teaching. What a tool.

  • Trac

    Players like Peanut are rare. Much more than a Bear.

    http://www.bcrnews.com/2014/01/08/peanut-tillman-a-bear-with-a-big-heart/czi49mc/

  • DaMurph

    Guys like Peanut are rare these days. He’s a great human being in addition to being a great football player. Best of all he is a Chicago Bear.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Reading that led me to Peanut’s “My Story” .. .which led me to Josh McCown’s. Wow, what a lovely guy. He’s brought to tears here talking about his faith.

  • Trac

    See Cor, Jim Irsay should have taken my advice. He he.

  • gpldan

    Asshole Irsay’s mug shot is precious.

    • CanadaBear

      Definitely fucked up. I don’t take any joy from this. No doubt he’s a jagoff. His wife of 33 years filed for divorce last November so I’m guessing he’s been off the wagon for awhile.

  • CanadaBear

    Speaking of being fucked up, did anyone see where John Moffit was arrested for trying to sell drugs in a Near North bar? They made it sound like he was the re-incarnation of Tony Montana. He had a half ounce of weed, a gram of coke and 4-5 ecstasy pills. Not saying he’s an angel but any doper worth the name could consume the coke in about an hour. Not sure about the X but unless it was very strong it wouldn’t be much of an issue blowing through that in short order. A lot of states don’t arrest people for small amounts of weed. Having written all that, what a dumbass!

  • MB30SD

    Yeah Irsay’s a complete and utter asshole, bit sounds like he’s off the wagon like canada suggests. THat said, I bet ANY of us could have gotten a DUI at some point in our lives. BTW, happy st patty’s day… especially you Irish, our own alien toting mick.

    Be safe out there tonight gents. and remember, green beer doesn’t look so cool coming back up.

    • Bender McLugh

      I don’t know if I’ll ever understand rich-ass people refusing to not drink & drive. You are RICH, you dumbass, get a driver already.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Especially NFL players!

      • MB30SD

        ever heard of uber? jackasses

    • CanadaBear

      My dad’s side of the family is 100% Irish. Can’t tell you how many times I overindulged on St Paddy’s Day. However, I never drank green beer. Why in the world would you want to drink beer with food coloring in it? Makes no sense.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        A dash of lime in the old lager is as far as the green should go. Mmmmmm.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Thanks MB. Another sober one for me. The thing about drinking and driving is that one day either your luck or somebody else’s runs out. As the baldy dude in Hill Street Blues used to say, “Be careful out there.”

      • MB30SD

        exactly.

    • SC Dave

      Funny how when someone has money, no one feels sorry for them. Here’s a story to look at:

      http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-needs-to-step-up-and-help-one-of-its-own-182858089-nfl.html

      A fine response to all those (likely including me) that have bitched over the years about these guys not getting a cab:

      “You can always curse a drunk driver – rich or poor – for not just getting a cab or limo, but Irsay was living a lie and the first casualty of addiction is always the truth.”

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Must have been too drunk to know he was too drunk to drive. Rationality being the second casualty.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    Good pos Jeff…could not agree more on all counts. Tillman is a class act on and off the field…damn glad he’s still a Bear…it’s where he belongs.

    As for Peppers, screw him..you think he’ll do any better in GB…doubt it…and yeah going to Gb from the Bears is kinda like giving someone the bird BUT McMichaels did the same thing and you know what Peppers?…he REGRETS it to this day…you’re a douche.

    • Johnathan Wood

      Pep was cut by Chicago and owes them nothing. GB offered the most money (and we heard of nobody else even interested). Why should he be obligated to say no?

      Thanks for 4 (mostly) good years, Pep.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    OK, so commonly misinformation spreads throughout the blogosphere and as we know if any lie is repeated so often, it becomes truth. So I decided to investigate the whole notion that “It takes $5M to sign a draft class.” In looking into it, the cap hits of the players drafted in 2013 in the slots we are set to pick in in this years drafts was $4,824,380 (and remember cap hits can kinda be made to whatever the team wants them to be in some respects but just go with me) but the $5M to sign the rookies kinda holds at this point. My next step was to then add a 10% raise to this years draft class (mostly because that was the amount of the salary cap increase and it seemed like a good starting point. Assuming the 10% increase the $4,824,380 becomes $5,306,818. The next step is to now add these contracts among the top 51 to see how many players at the bottom levels are booted to give us the net increase in cap. Bears current cap stands at roughly $115,812,414 (I can’t find Jordan Palmers contract), The cap after slotting in this years draft picks and taking the top 51 cap hits is 117,691,838 a difference of 1,879,424 and thus the amount of cap room it will take to sign this years rookie class, not $5M. Add in the dead money of 12,643,337 and subtract the cap of 133,006,955 (includes 6,955 of carryover from 2013) and you get cap room of $2,671,780 after we sign all of our draft picks. Bottom line we can still afford to sign guys like Britton and Woot (provided he will accept a realistic deal) without having to cut anyone. The cap situation will remain fluid as guys are cut and whatnot but the Bears will probably approach FA like they still have $2,671,780 in cap room.

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      hmmm, very interesting. You lost me at the carryover, now show me some titties!!!

      • MB30SD

        Exactly!

        Awesome job maings… but I was told there’d be no maths involved. My head hurts!

        Hurrah St. Patty’s Day: http://www.mandatory.com/2014/03/07/33-sexy-photos-of-hot-girls-in-yoga-pants/

        • MB30SD

          Also, not sure if you saw it BC (as in bean counter, yes, that’s your new nickname), but barb posted a link to a very comprehensive cap site below.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            i saw them, they didnt have the nut or palmer, I occasionally use them and spotrac as a reference.

          • MB30SD

            of course. smh.

            Was palmer on a team last year? prob just vet min right?

            Also, not an ass man, but did you see the pic @ #4 above? Holy boobies batman.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            He was with us last year, I would assume the contract is for vet min, but there is a difference between a vet min deal and a minimum salary benefit deal, also not sure if he got any bonuses or whatnot. Just threw it in at $1MM to be conservative.

          • MB30SD

            btw, I’ll think of a better nickname, that one kinda sucks BC.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            BeanerCounter? double entendrererererere? Too offensive?

          • Not because it’s racist (though it is), but because it’s cheeeeeezzzzyy.

          • MB30SD

            never

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          Hahahaha, almost on queue, the math is so that no one will question my process. Bottom line, it’s closer to $2M to sign a draft class and we still have about $2.6M in cap room to do with what we please.

        • Big Mike

          All nice, #4 if your greedy.

          • MB30SD

            I am… I am!

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        I gots da numbers, MB will provide da entertainment.

        • MB30SD

          (see below)

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Get dem titties out, Jorge!! Angelita … mamasita … vamanos !

    • Johnathan Wood

      it’s about a $2M cap hit

      • Johnathan Wood

        bigger deal is that once the season starts the cap includes all 53 contracts + practice squad. need about $3M in space once the season hits just to be able to work (PS constantly changing, bring in guys for roster like Ratliff last year, etc.)

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Peppers could be designated as a post July (or June ?) cut, That gives you 4 mil of his ‘dead money’ back.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Those are all possible, but I think they’ve already decided not to classify Pepp as a 6/1 cut, I think you have to do that when you cut him. Either way, think they are just trying to eat all that dead money this year to have a ton of cap room next year, which will be substantial.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          But it’s the same thing. This year or the next one. The point is that only they know what they want to to. And things can be done in order to free cap space. PS: I think you can name the 6/1 cut at a later date.

      • Johnathan Wood

        they already said they’re not doing that. They’re taking their cap lumps this year (~$13M dead money, Cutler’s deal front-loaded) so they are set next year.

        Gonna end up with somewhere around 30-40M in space next year AFTER factoring in the next 2 rookie classes, re-signing Marshall, and giving Jeffery a fatass extension.

        Only guys of note who will be FA?

        Briggs, Tillman, Garza, Williams, Collins, Conte, Paea.

        Briggs is gone. Tillman may be back on deal like this year, but most likely gone/retires. Garza retires. DJ… who knows. Won’t cost more than $2-3M to re-sign anyway. Same with Collins, Paea, and Conte (who could stick around with a bounce-back year this year).

        They’re gonna have space for 3 Houston-type contracts next offseason without sweating it. So Phil will see the holes the young guys leave this year and plug every single goddamn one of them next year.

        The future is bright, because Chicago finally has a GM worth a damn.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          1) Link where “they said they’re not doing that”?…….2) 13 mil? You sure?……. 3) That makes no sense: Why tale the Cutler hit and the Peppers hit in the same year? You have a Defense to rebuild; if you have a player that can help you why wait for next year? It seems rather stupid to me… a copy/paste of last year when Emery went in without DL and S depth. And paid for it. Big time.

          • Johnathan Wood

            1) I swear I saw an Emery quote last week that said Peppers will not be June 1 cut. But can’t find anything about it now. Regardless, pretty sure they have to make that designation by now.

            2) Dead money for Bears is $12.6M right now. $8M from Pep, $2M from Bush, $1M from Podlesh, $900k from Carimi, some from Evan Rodriguez and Brandon Hardin too. If Weems is cut (likely) would be another $1M so. Full list towards the bottom here. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bears/cap-hit/

            In general, I think Emery is looking to have a good team in 2014, but his primary focus is to be set up for the future (2015 and beyond) the best. An extra $5-10M this year isn’t getting them enough to be SB favorites this year, so he’s biting the bullet now to pay dividends beyond that.

            Let the young guys play on D this year, see where you have holes, and then you’ll have $$ for 3 Lamarr-Houston type defensive players to contend in 2015 and beyond.

            So 2014 the goal is playoffs, 2015 the goal is Super Bowl. Just my $0.02.

    • Sactowns#1

      I was told there would be no math.

  • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

    Ah, finally found it! I thought this clip of Jerrah Glanville paying homage to Wally was in a doc – it wasn’t. My favorite sweetness story at the end of the clip. I’ll need it explained where the golf balls thing came from though.

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/chicago-bears/09000d5d81bd243a/Top-100-Walter-Payton-bonus-feature

  • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

    Are they wearing Leprechaun hats? Is that a pot o’gold on his head? SMH. Whatever.

    The Bennett Bros. talking about not hooking up in Chicago,

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/chicago-bears/0ap2000000334545/Bro-to-Bro-Martellus-on-Michael-rem

    • MB30SD

      Dude! Are they fucking twins?!?!

      …and the bennetts look pretty similar too.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        I was going to ask. Identi-beards too. Orthodox Jews?

        • MB30SD

          Jihadists… I think.

          Dude, martellus is fucking HILARIOUS. Dude is SO funny. Love that guy.

  • NewBearInTown

    Izzy and Wootton would both be nice pickups at vet minimum contracts (maybe even a little premium for Woot). But we need to get younger to make anything happen on D. We also need our anchor on the D-line as right now I see 3-4 roleplayers, but nobody giving coordinators nightmares. It can be an end, it can be a tackle, it can even be a 3-4 OLB, but we need somebody to demand the double teams. Say what you want about Peppers, but that was why he got paid the big money till a week ago.

    Happy to see Peanut back. Surprised its a one year deal and have to wonder which side wanted the shorter contract. I don’t see how it would have hurt the Bears to do a two year deal unless they would have had to lay out substantial extra guaranteed money.

    • Johnathan Wood

      Wootton is 26. He IS young.

      But yes, they need a DL stud to build around in the draft.

      All together now… AARON DONALD!!!

      • MB30SD

        the more I see other people’s input data, I think phil’s going pryor or dix @ 14, and then a tuitt type (you’re welcome irish) in rd 2.

        Just seems like there’s more depth at Dline than S in this draft AND more importantly… I don’t think donald is making it to us. Like you said, he’s seen as the best D player (without ?s) in the draft despite his size. I bet Lovie or dallas does some stupid shit to get him regardless of their needs and what they’ve already done in FA.

        Here are 3 mocks:

        Has us taking Donald: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts/chase-goodbread/195600

        This dude has all 3 of our wanted guys going AFTER our pick. (MURPH!): http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts/matt-smith/190605

        Same with bucky (MURPH!): http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts/bucky-brooks/190604

        Sheit maings. the more I look at it, the more we can’t lose this year. We either get a top 3 DL or we get a top 2 FS. Common phil, please god don’t fuck this up and take a flyer on some fucking unknown undersized white guy that you want to move from TE to CB this year.

        Just take one of the 5 homerun moves offered up to you on a silver platter and cement yourself as a badass GM and a good drafter than can do D as well as O. Please jebus.

        • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

          Sometimes in sales you just have to shut up and take a “Yes”. This is one of those situations. You don’t overthink it and you just select one of the top 3 DL or top 2 S available. Don’t overanalyze it Phillip.

          • MB30SD

            Yep, shut the fuck up and start writing up the order the second they say yes. All you can do after that is fuck it up.

            Donald, Pryor, Dix, Jernigan, Hageman… no lose sitch.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            St. Louis is going to take one of those Safeties at 13 I’m thinking. I’m hoping it’s not another Morgan Burnett/Major Wright result.

          • MB30SD

            I won’t care which we take, although I’m starting to lean towards pryor.

          • Johnathan Wood

            Morgan Burnett is just as bad as Major Wright. Only issue is GB gave him a fat extension before realizing this. Suckers.

          • The Pack jumped over the Bears to draft Burnett too.

            Joke was on you, Fudge!

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            I’d be upset if Hageman was the pick, I don’t like him as much as some of you guys do. His effort/consistency is often questioned, he plays way to high which allows him to get moved around too easily for a guy that is 6’6″ 318 34.25″ arms. I have seen really good tape on this guy, but I have also seen some really bad tape too.

            Order of preference:

            1. Donald, DT
            2. Pryor, S
            3. Gilbert, CB
            4. Jernigan, DT
            5. Dix, FS

          • MB30SD

            I like this progression a lot. We’re going to have our pick of any/all of them according to a lot of ‘experts’. (except for gilbert)

            But as we’ve learnt, in the end, no one knows how it’s going to go down.

          • That’s about my preference. After Gilbert it gets iffy. Hageman and Jernigan are about the same in my book. I’m really not sold on Dix, not at 14 at least.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            I’ve read similar things about Hageman and negatives about Jernigan too.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Don’t like what I’ve heard about Jernigan or Hageman. Want no question marks in the first two rounds. Don’t mind drafting that Mike Bullock later on if there’s off the field worries though.

        • Johnathan Wood

          I’m still not sold on either S being a home run guy. Alabama D players scare me because literally every single one of them that has gone in round 1 has underperformed his draft expectation. Saban makes guys look better than they are.

          • MB30SD

            Yeah, I actually agree with $ I think it was (or maybe it was you), that phil goes with the more physical pryor if he takes a S.

          • It was moi, and that’s another reason why.

            Pryor +1

          • MB30SD

            jes.

            So we’re growing out fucking mustaches for our bet about CD? Snooooore. SMH.

            I don’t know enough about how irving did last year and when he was in. Give me another one and maybe we compare all three just to make sure it’s fair.

          • Movember? Nah. We’ll think of something else, though you with a porn stache will really make you look like the Bod.

            I’m not sure how we can bet. I mean, Shea is not even favored to start, so I’m handicapping myself. Shea would really have to outperform Bostic at strongside to start.

            Dang. maybe I shouldn’t make the bet after all

          • MB30SD

            exactly. You’re picking the horse who came up lame last season and instead of just turning him to glue, they tried something new and did their best to rehabilitate.

            Well, that’s no fun. Wanna bet on whether pep takes cutty out or not… wait… never mind.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Strongside? I’m half hoping DJW gets a hammy and then Chicken goes in and becomes a revelation. Then he grows a beard and we start calling him ‘Country’.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          That’s the thing, the fans won’t be too pissed off if you take Dix and he doesn’t end up panning out because he was the consensus top safety in the draft. But Shea wasn’t at the top of anyone’s anything, hence the anger toward his selection and the “I told you so’s” after the fact.

        • Johnathan Wood

          guy to keep an eye on for round 2/3 if they don’t go DT in round 1: Kelcy Quarles. Was DT at S. Carolina last year with 9.5 sacks. Bears reported to have interest.

          I dunno how good he is without a stud DE like Clowney taking all the attention though.

        • DaMurph

          Jernigan, Jernigan, Jernigan !! You know Emery, we all are probably wrong. He likes rolling the dice, he got lucky with Long and crapped with Chicken. Whos he gonna pick this year that has all of us shouting at the TV, What the fuck!?!?!?

          • MB30SD

            He better not. He can chose one of 4 or 5 guys and be spot on (as spot on as you can be in a draft at least). He can pick any of the following and have made a very solid, no-fault pick: Donald, Jernigan, Dix, Pryor, Grimes. Or a guy like Mack if he gets left behind for some reason. Anything else will be a fucking crime.

            He has zero excuse to do that shit this draft. If he does, he’ll have lost me as a supporter.

          • Trac

            I’m so hoping C.J. Mosley falls to us. It’s time to draft a real Monster of the Midway.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Two words, injury prone.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            and he plays at 232lbs so i’m not sold

          • MB30SD

            I see where you’re going with that trac, but beside BC’s comment below, it’s just not a dire need this year. If we were going to do that, we need a kuekly type who can come in and be a probowler as a rookie. Just a serious KNOWN badass in the LK mould.

            Mosely is good, but he’s not that. You take donald or pryor at 14.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            I’d jump on Tuitt, he won’t be there in round 2 when we pick, and you can’t pass up freaks. Donald won’t be there and that’s too high to take a SS.

            Anyone remember who Pat Kirwan tagged as the white MLBs to watch? They were 3-4th rounders I think

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Max Bullough (sp?) from Mich State and the 5’11” dude from Wisconsin.

          • DaMurph

            I really hope youre correct. The last two drafts were rough but he hit an inside straight with the Long pick, and I fear he may be feeling his oats. Man I hope I’m wrong on this one!

          • MB30SD

            The first draft was rough… but Ashlon kind of made up for the rest (kind of). Especially if he can turn into BMarsh long-term for us. Those guys don’t come along very often.

            Last years was a great draft, I just think the rooks need time. I think a lot of the boys here have been pretty unfair to Bostic and Greene. THey got thrown into the shit last year without any Dline. Lach would have been worse with our dline. ZERO help deflecting blockers.

            You don’t get 9th pick overall possible FHOF luke K. talent in mid rd 2 and 4, you get what we (weren’t supposed to) saw last year. Those guys are solid role players that may blossom (especially bostic in my mind) down the line. They aren’t rooks that come in when your entire D falls apart and save the day.

            Long, and Mills were solid starters. Mills needs work, but I think he’ll be solid. Bostic and greene can def be contributors, they just need the 2-3 years to get better most rookies need. My $.02 anyway.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Think Marquess shows us something this year too.

          • MB30SD

            maybe, but not counting on that. will be a nice bonus surprise.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Pat Kirwan’s points. Found it.

            DTs: Donald – 89 plays behind LOS. Doesn’t like Jernigan though. Likes Sutton at 3T.

            DEs : Hageman – workout warrior, doesn’t play hard. Thinks Tuitt is a perfect fit for Left DE.

            Play calling MLBs : Chris Bowen 5-11, smart – understands the game, gets off his blocks.

            Max Bullock – 6’3 250 , best LB he talked to, similar profile to Kiko Alonso, off the field stuff may drop him down the draft. Like Burfict, we should take a shot on this guy.

            Jordan Zumalt(?) UCLA – thinks he projects as a mike.

            Safety position is not deep in this draft. Likes Ha-Ha. Likes Pryor. Need to study safeties in FA, because you will not find your safety in this draft.

          • MB30SD

            Riiight. If Donald isn’t there we’ll get Pryor most likely. Dix might be gone.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          I will remove my royal Irish langer with a fish knife, fry it with a little butter and some shallottes, and serve it up to myself if young master Tuitt is there at #45. I’d take him over Donald. This isn’t 1985. Donald needs to beef up or he will get pushed around. It’s not like OL guys haven’t faced explosive tackles in their careers – and if he’s that explosive, then you just chip him, sandwich the fucker.

          IMHO a guy like Tuitt is rarer, sheer size and speed combined in a long body at such a tender age(2)) doesn’t come along that often. I don’t care if Donald was the best DL guy in college – this isn’t college. He’s a fast under-sized tackle in the NFL, not tall either. Plus, he won’t be there at 14. No way. So it’s a moot point anyway. The top safety will go in the top 10 … we can draft a safety next year – or grab a decent FA when there’s more cap space available – I just would hate to pass on a freak like Tuitt.

          But hitting in the top 2 isn’t enough, anyway. Thanks to Angelo, we need to hit on the top 5.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            We pick at #51 not 45. We were one of several teams at 8-8 but we had the worst SOS so we get 14 in round 1 but after that we pick at #19 in the remaining rounds.

      • NewBearInTown

        Wootton is young, Izzy is not.

        If Aaron Donald goes at #13 I feel bad for your television.

        • Johnathan Wood

          I dunno what would piss me off more… Donald going right before CHI picks or Donald being there and CHI not picking him.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            definitely the latter.

  • What are some good Leprechaun day flicks? Boondock Saints? The Departed? Anything with Daniel Day Lewis? The Devil’s Own?

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Gone Baby Gone. The Town

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      State of Grace
      starring Gary Oldman, Sean Penn, Ed Harris, John C. Reilly, John Turturro, Robin Wright.
      Music by Ennio Morricone
      Irish Gangster Movie with one of the greatest ensemble casts of all time.

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        you can thank me later. Puts Boondock Saints and The Devil’s Own to shame.

      • I don’t think I’ve watched State of Grace. But has Gary Oldman ever been in a bad movie? He even managed to somewhat save Dracula with keanu reeves.

        • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

          If you watch State of Grace you will put in in your top 20 of all time immediately. It’s not film. It’s fucking art.

        • MB30SD

          batman

          • You didn’t like Batman!? You crazy.

          • MB30SD

            Batman is my favorite ‘superhero’… they’ve fucked with that franchise so much over the years with all the different characters and directors. Just kind of lost interest. I have to say that ledger as the joker was fucking brilliant and so twisted.

            The latest one I wasn’t all that impressed with… although I did the bane voice while playing MW3 with the boys a lot. Shady loves that one.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            The Bane voice was surreal. Didn’t work for me.

      • SC Dave

        That does look like one hell of a cast.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Irish-American gangster movie, if I may. Irish-Americans are completely American and totally removed from Ireland/Irish-ness. They’re cringeworthy.

        The Departed was good. But they’re Americans through and through. Loved The Town.

        The General is the best Irish Gangster movie by far, in that they”re actually Irish, and Voight is the best thing in it considering he’s not.

    • Cormonster

      The Quiet Man with John Wayne and Maureen O’Hara.

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        Classic. I watched it yesterday with extended family. I was drinking Bushmills like a thirsty camel.

        • Cormonster

          Damn, I wish I would have known. Another good Irish mafia movie is Miller’s Crossing. One of my favorites.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        I’ve still never seen that (I hate John Wayne), and the bridge in the movie is just a stone’s throw from my Auntie’s house!

        • MB30SD

          Go home young man. and take your babies with you.

    • EnderWiggin

      Leprechaun with Jennifer Aniston.

    • DaBearsBlog

      Depends how you view Ireland. For me it’s The Boxer, In the Name of the Father, Bloody Sunday and Waking Ned Devine.

      • Haven’t checked out The Boxer or Walking Ned Devine. I’ll put those on the queue.

        For Daniel Day Lewis fans, I always recommend “The Ballad of Jack and Rose”. Not Irish related, but great flick nonetheless.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Actual Irish movies. They came into my college when they were filming In The Name of The Father looking for long-hairs and I turned them down (facepalm). It was for the scene at the start (I think), where they needed some long-hairs throwing petrol bombs.

        The Snapper/ The Commitments. Good for Dublin vernacular.

        Cal is an older one (1984). Good flick, and you get a flash of Helen Mirren’s minge to boot.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      The Devils’ Own!!! Oh lordy! Worst Irish accent ever out of Pitt, apart from maybe Tom Cruise in Far and and away(?). Julia Roberts wins for the girls in Michael Collins. Horrible.

      Best ever : Jon Voight in The General. He picked a Cork accent and nailed it.

  • Also, Irish songs? Canada, our resident musicologist? Traditional Irish tunes sang by contemporary bands?

    Dont’ say House of Pain!

    • I think the Pogues are one of the most popular.

      http://youtu.be/cXo-X16aRzA

      • Bender McLugh

        Pogues, Shane McGowan……awesome. I also really like the Young Dubliners, though their new album is a bit too pop-ish for me.

        • I think I saw the Young Dubliners live at this small place in Hwood. I emphasize ‘think’ because I was fucking wasted.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            ‘The Dubliners’. End of. Luke Kelly singing anything.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        The Pogues AND The Dubliners !

    • MB30SD

      They have a fucking shamrock and the irish flag right in their logo for christ’s sake: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7IVAH1JauE

      I say BRING THAT SHIT!

      • MB30SD

        I got more rhymes that a cop in a dunkin donuts.

        Bitch.

    • Shady

    • CanadaBear

      Gotta admit I’m not the biggest fan of Irish music. Much prefer Blues, 50’s-60’s R&B, Soul, Funk, Black Gospel, Zydeco, Cajun. I do have a House of Pain T-shirt that was an X-mas present from my nephew. It’s got a pic of an Irish boxer taking one right on the kisser and underneath it says, “Same as it ever was”. Love that shirt!

      A Brother (religious variety) sang Danny Boy at my dad’s funeral (a request from the family) and i still cry like a baby when I hear it. At my brother’s funeral they played Taps and that has the same effect. I’m not exactly the strong silent type.

    • CanadaBear

      For a kick ass Irish singer I vote for Imelda May. Not traditional by any means but what great set of pipes.

  • MB30SD

    I might even be ok with this strategy this year:

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    @RyanProkof412 If I’m the Bears, I take the best defensive player on the board in each of first three rounds regardless the position.

    …as long as the first two players to be taken will be a DT and a FS.

    • Viva

      For the life of me, I can’t get excited about taking a DB in the first round, and it looks like Clinton-Dix will be there for the taking….but if comes down to C-Dix (someone needs to go to work on a nickname) or Donald, I’m on the Donald bandwagon…

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        I hear you Viva but at some point we need to put high level talent back into the defensive backfield. We’ve had mediocrity at the safety position for so long. Effective veteran depth is easier to find at interior Line positions and LB but DB’s seem to be a different story.
        I want a game changer that brings energy.

        • Viva

          I’d take 2 Mike Brown’s in a heartbeat.

          • MB30SD

            I’d take one.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            I’d take the 2009 version at this point.

          • MB30SD

            my dick is better than conte.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            at football?

          • johnnywad

            At everything

          • SC Dave

            We’d need two, so that we’d have one on the field.

        • MB30SD

          THIIIIIIIIIS!

      • Trac

        The cat(Ha-Ha) takes bad angles and has trouble taking down big receivers. No thanks.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Don’t like the sound of that. It’s a bad safety class, we should wait until next year and hit big in the first round.

      • Seymour Dix.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        What’s Donald’s upside ? Is he going to get heavier? Has anybody actually watched the tape on Tuitt? The only reason he’s not #1 overall is that he came back out of shape off a hernia op.

        Donald WILL NOT be there at #14. He’s gone by 7.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Why I should be US Sports Czar: NCAA would not be allowed to keep Larry Brown out of tournament. You’ve got 68 teams & left out best story?”

    Spare us the wailing and gnashing over SMU and Larry Brown.

    The STORY here is that they played a schedule rated 100+. Worse, their non-conference schedule ranked in the 300s.

    Besides, everyone knows that I should be Sports Czar.

    • Cormonster

      Every year we hear the same whining about some team or two.

      I’m getting pumped for March Madness. I been predicting my Badgers to make the elite 8 for well over a month. Now I’m getting nervous because too many “experts” have them going at least that far.

  • MB30SD

    You’ve got my vote Al.

    Building on my post about the cosmos and NDT last night: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/17/cosmic-inflation-theory-early-universe-expansion_n_4979486.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D454769

    Also, if you didn’t watch Irish’s video post to the Bennett brother interview I highly recommend it. They’re funny. Ok, back to writing marketing launch plans for a while (siiiiiigh)

  • FQD1911

    Glad to have #33 back.

    • MB30SD

      FQ!!!!!!!!!!

  • Bender McLugh

    Jeff, completely agree……..bring back Neck Beard!

    • Viva

      The only verticle threat we had during the Orton years was the “Hester Fly Orton Underthrow” to set-up bullshit Pass Interference calls.

      • Viva

        and I like Kyle.

      • johnnywad

        He hit a deep one to Bernard Berrien in a blizzard in Pittsburgh. Once. Best throw of his life

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      If the Cowboys do sign Weeden, then we should absolutely call Kyle. If they don’t, we should sign Weeden.

  • Viva

    Why does Kyle Orton always look like he is throwing into the wind?

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      His style of into-the-wind throwing is perfect for the receivers we have IMHO. Only those getting highest will catch it.

      • MB30SD

        It means that the ball doesn’t go very far, not that it sails high… Although it does that for him too

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD
  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

    I was just doing some mock draft work of my own and am now convinced that both Pryor and Dix will be gone by 14. Detroit and St. Louis both need help at safety. Now it gets interesting. We need help at defense and DT to be specific. Won’t it suck balls then at 14 to have Eric Ebron sitting there at TE just waiting to be the last piece to the most epic offensive set ever?
    Marshall and Jeffrey on the edge. Martellus and Ebron at double TE and Forte out of the backfield?
    That would be instant NFL Football Offensive Prostate milking.
    That will never happen though since we will end up taking Donald or Jernigan since the safeties we want will be gone. Still a good move.

    • MB30SD

      no way are both gone. I think Dix has the better marketing brand because he’s roll tide factory made… so pryor will be there for us, and he’s the guy it seems we all want now anyway.

      If anyone is going to be gone, I personally think it will be donald.

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        Maybe St. Louis will take Donald, which would give them a disgusting D line by the way, and Pryor will be there for us.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          I’m worried about a crazy team (DAL) giving STL a bevy of picks to move ahead of us and take Donald. DAL is hurting for cap room, so I’m sure they don’t want a huge draft class anyway, they could sell out for Donald.

          I’m also a little worried about NYG bringing heat for Donald. They just let Tuck and Joseph go, their only pass rush threat at the moment is JPP (USF alum!!!). They traditionally sink picks into their lines, can you imagine lining Donald next to JPP. Yikes. Hopefully Taylor Lewan is still there and they go in that direction.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          The Rams took Michael Brockers at 14 in 2012. He’s decent, but nothing more. One of many DT taken from Pick 10 to 25 in the last 3 years that don’t really make a big difference at the end of the day. They and many others (Emery included) passed on Chandler Jones…what you call a dynamic play maker !!! PS: The Rams also took Robers Quinn at 14 in 2011. NOW THAT’S THE WAY TO ‘SPEND’ A 14 PICK.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Love where your head is, but we lost a game where we scored 41 points and gave up 54 to the Eagles. All of our opponents scored more than 20 points, we need defense, we know we can score especially in year 2 of this offense. It’ll just be a matter of getting stops and so I hope at least one of our desired defenders will be there for the taking. Worst case scenario is that none of them are there AND we can’t trade down. We may be stuck reaching for Hageman or Ealy. FWIW, I have Ealy > Hageman.

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        agreed, we go D and I guess we’ll just have to get by with Marshall, Jeffrey, Bennett, Forte and either Wilson or Earl. 🙂

        • MB30SD

          Nice emoticon. NTTAWWT

          • MB30SD

            Damn it! Engage! Get back online. Come back to us… bring the emotion back!

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            just saw this. made me laugh.

        • SC Dave

          We better keep earl, damnit

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Wins championships. Absolutely. The premiere QB in the league did all he could to avoid getting shut out in the superbowl. This draft NEEDS to be all about the D.

    • Johnathan Wood

      DT is the primary defensive need right now. they have a 3T-sized hole in the middle of their defense.

      I hope both S are gone. More likely Aaron Donald is there.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        There is no such thing as a 3T. The Bears defense doesn’t exist… no scheme has been set. Say you get a 3T, but end up you playing without one. What then ?

        • MB30SD

          good point barb… so do you look like mirco or not?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Now women have called me many ways, never Mirco. I’m more of a Marco… but enough about the dimension of my dick. I guess if I would be 10 cm taller and with 20+ kg of muscle there could be some sort of resemblance. PS: If you need help getting your hands on Chicago Bears game torrents when busy with family matters…let me know. I’m a beast in this sort of stuff.

          • tobijohn

            Sometime between now and the draft, when it really slows down around here, you’re going to have to explain to me how a guy from Romania not only became so incredibly knowledgeable about American football but also mastered American English, its nuances and its idioms. I”m thoroughly impressed…

          • Cormonster

            He probably knows more about American History than the average American.

          • tobijohn

            I would say he probably knows a LOT more about American history than the average American who in my experience, knows very little…

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            An empire is always more interesting from afar.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            As an English major and a history buff myself, I would also attest that most Americans do not know most proper rules of the English language and American history. However, the “America Unearthed” series on H2 is enthralling me as of now. Love knowing what happened in the Pre-Columbian era of the North American Continent. Great show if you guys are interested.

          • tobijohn

            Man, I would love to watch that but work and DBB seem to take up all my time. Guess I’ll have to cut back on work…

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            TV Shows and sports man. hahah.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I’m not so ‘knowledgeable about American football’ (was it a ‘shot’?), but I do watch team sports from an infant age. Soccer. The rules are the same when it comes to management. I watch the NFL for 6 years now and it’s without doubt my favorite sport. I mean I watch every snap of every game not only those of my favorite team…Da Bearsss. I love the sport. The English is a skill you get when you study it from in school for 4 hours a week from 9-10 years old up until 18. But you should learn it at a decent level as a novice only by everyday hobbies… it’s all in english. PS: The grammar is because of the site..it has auto correct. Thank god.

          • tobijohn

            No shot at all. You’ve managed to learn more about this sport in six years than I have in fifty…

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Thanks mate. But don’t sweat it… it just means you have better thing to do. The truth is if you spend to much time reading about one thing it becomes detrimental to the pure enjoyment of that event. You seem to be alright after ‘fifty’ years. That’s outstanding. I’m currently searching for that sweet spot.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Ah .. .Italia ’90. Pure Sweetness. Timoftei. David O’ Leary steps up …. ah yes …..

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            He reads a lot of English online, and Italian.

          • SC Dave

            Did you mean micro v macro… er.. reverse that

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Come on man… the joke was high quality. Why analyze it ? Yes it was a low level acronym stuff… it’s what makes it pure genius. You’re welcome.

          • MB30SD

            Thanks maings

        • Johnathan Wood

          sorry, three-technique defensive tackle. They need a pass-rushing DT to replace Melton pretty badly, IMO. This team lost their top two pass rushers from a bad pass rushing unit. Their run D should be much better, but they need all the pass rushing help they can get right now.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            They need pass rushing for sure. I just think a 3T makes you very one -dimensional. Today there is not a clear vision of what the defense will be. So that puts you in a position of high risk. I’ll make some examples… Geno Atkins or Randy Starks are not 3T DTs. They still get 7+ sacks every year. Now I don’t think Emery will get a DT at 14 (personal view), but if he does a 3T is even less probable.

          • Johnathan Wood

            A pass-rushing DT would be able to play DE in a 3-4 hybrid look as well.

            And any DT is playing 60% of the snaps most likely, so it’s not likely you’re locking him in for eery play.

            And Geno Atkins is definitely a 3T. But if it helps, I can say “pass-rushing DT” instead of 3T

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Geno Atkins plays and dominates all over the OL. The 3T rushes from the under tackle slot. I mean it’s a big difference. I’d rather draft a DE that can play in a 3-4 hybrid then a DT who can do that. I say that because logic make me think in such a way… the 2 best players in that role are JJ Watt and Calais Campbell. They where DEs at birth. PS: Wooton and Houston are build in that mold.

          • Johnathan Wood

            Aaron Donald played and dominated from all four DL spots for PIT last year. He would just primarily be that “3-technique” pass rushing DT in the NFL. Has strength and athleticism to be 4-3 DT and 3-4 DE in passing situations.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Again, he ain’t gonna be there at #14. And I’m glad. Options are limited when you’re under-sized. Tuitt could do so many things for us.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I heard so many things over the years… I don’t trust these rookie DT. Look, Emery never drafted a DT as a GM. He did draft at all the other positions bar QB. Now he goes and picks a DT at 14 in the first round ? Highly doubt it.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Detroit need a DE more then a S.

    • AlbertInTucson

      The Bears not drafting to help their defense in round one seems more than a bit far-fetched to me.

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        agreed sir, they are definitely going D. I just briefly enjoyed the vision of a 6’4 245 pass catching TE lining up inside of 6’5 235 Brandon Marshall and having 6’6 265 Bennett lining up next to 6’4 218 Jeffrey.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      No to a TE. No to Jernigan. Fucking YES to you-know-who.

      • MB30SD

        Pryor?

  • AlbertInTucson

    Orton back as Bears backup? Works for me, too.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      He is under contract with Dallas. Big money too.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Big money for a backup. Sorry, the CAP just mitigates against that these days. Figures that Jerra doesn’t understand that concept.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Well, it was smart at the end of the day… Orton started their last game… a win or go home final divisional game. Typical stuff in that division. Plus it would help them this year with their starter injured again. They signed Weeden because Orton might retire. He’ll be in Dallas if he plays…has one more year into the deal. 2 years 5 mil if I remember exactly.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            So what’s to stop us buying his contract? Give us Orton and Miles Austin, we’ll give you Briggsy. (Or is miles a FA?)

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            He is a FA and we don’t need him.

          • Trac

            Money?

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            A girl can dream. Disagree that we don’t need him though – we lose either BM or AJ and the opposing defense can scheme the other guy out. Would have loved James Jones too. That dude is not far-removed from a 14 TD season.

          • MB30SD

            And he threw an int on the what could have been the winning drive if I remember correctly.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Yes. A brutal one.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Yeah, I don’t think they can afford to keep Orton if he’s #3 on 3.5M!

  • Sactowns#1

    So I saw a few St Pats questions and suggestions on here and had to chime in.
    Waffle I have to agree that State Of Grace is by far the best St Patricks day movie. Sean Penn and his future ex wife are great. Gary Oldman is simply incredible.
    Quiet Man is ok, I’ve been to Ireland a couple of times and even went to see the house etc. But what the hell is the story arc in that film? Dude doesnt want to give a dowry, the girl wants it, her fiance doesnt. Idk. It all becomes quite tiresome.
    Far and Away is pretty laughable at times but all in all it’s good craic.
    Which brings me to my next point…try and use the term craic as often as possible today. Its really utilitarian. You can use it in place of fun, or in place of party ie Where’s the craic? or That was good craic. etc
    As for music for today…. depends on if you want traditional (usually either really sad or really funny tunes) then Clancy Brothers and Chieftans are both pretty good. If you want the more Americanized drinking and fighting stuff then I’m a big Flogging Mollys fan as well as Dropkick Murphys.
    But most importantly remember that today celebrates a man bringing religion to a pagan people.. a people who were then subjected to violence, discrimination and robbed of their lands in the name of racism disguised as religious war.

    • MB30SD

      Sac I thought you are an american indian?! Are you irish too?

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      So anti-american. Will you be able to fly in the future I wonder?

    • SC Dave

      The way of the followers of christ. History is overflowing with examples of their tender mercies.

      • tobijohn

        I love that quote from Gandhi which paraphrased went something like “I like your Christ very much. Your Christians, not so much”…

        • Cormonster

          How ironic is this? The founder of the Westboro Baptist Church devoted his life to hating fags and tormenting people at their kids funerals, but now as he’s dying he has been ex-communicated from his church and has no one on his side, aside from maybe some warped family members. He disowned a couple of his kids years ago probably because they didn’t hate enough. I hope thousands of people protest his funeral.

          http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4974584

          • tobijohn

            I just love it when “Reap what you sow” comes back to bite people like that in the ass…

          • Trac

            I wouldn’t say ironic. Judgement and justice maybe?

        • Trac

          A very self serving comment tobi. Gandhi might get it right in 10 or more incarnations. He he. Not very tolerant was he?

          • tobijohn

            Not bad for ten reincarnations. I’ve got to have been through twenty and
            judging from my progress so far, I’ve probably got twenty more to go. I
            know there’s hypocrisy in all religions but being Christian myself, I’m
            more sensitive to it when I see it practiced in my own…

          • Trac

            Just having fun my man. Seriously though, statements like his are often not examined as closely as they should be.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Is it all Paddies and Jews on here or what?

      It was wall to wall green on Fox yesterday as they peddled their woefully misinformed bullshit on the Crimean situation …

  • Shady
    • tobijohn

      Did you notice the related Steve Smith tweets at the bottom of the article?

      • NewBearInTown

        I didn’t watch the video, but based on the article Gavin’s Dad sounds like a real winner.

        • tobijohn

          Not compared to my old man. I still vividly remember a trip to Mount Rushmore where he threatened if I didn’t behave myself, to turn me into a Johnny burger and feed me to the bears that wandered up to the tourists’ cars driving through, waiting for handouts. Imagine a three year old pleading for his life…

          • MB30SD

            Wow. Sorry tj

          • tobijohn

            He still gets a chuckle out of that when I mention it to him. That’s OK, about ten years after that, a couple of my sisters and I stole one of his favorite tennis shoes, leaving the other one. To this day, he’s still trying to figure out which one of us did it…

          • MB30SD

            Hahahahaha… sounds like it was more of a joke for him than him being a cunt. Which is good.

            Very luckily, I came from ultimate unconditional love and sacrifice from both of my parents… something I am 10000000% passing on to my kids. I’m stern with rules, but man those kids get kissed and hugged pretty much constantly.

            I can’t imagine it any other way and I always feel shocked and terrible for people who had rough upbringings. On the other hand the almost constant struggles and difficulties of real life came as a bit of a surprise to me, so there’s that downside.

          • tobijohn

            Yeah, my father’s sense of humor can sometimes tend to be a bit insensitive. A while back, our longtime next door neighbor who was also one of my old man’s hunting buddies ( and the very one whose backyard Ferris Bueller ran through that I mentioned in a previous thread) decided that chronic pain and not being able to physically do all the things he used to made life not worth living anymore. He put a sign on his front door saying “don’t come in, call the police” and went upstairs and shot himself. My father’s response on first hearing of this tragic incident: “Christ, I hope he didn’t use one of the guns I sold him”….

          • tobijohn

            Yeah, my father’s sense of humor can sometimes tend to be a bit insensitive. A while back, our longtime next door neighbor who was also one of my old man’s hunting buddies ( and the very one whose backyard Ferris Bueller ran through that I mentioned in a previous thread) decided that chronic pain and not being able to physically do all the things he used to made life not worth living anymore. He put a sign on his front door saying “don’t come in, call the police” and went upstairs and shot himself. My father’s response on first hearing of this tragic incident: “Christ, I hope he didn’t use one of the guns I sold him”….

  • Cormonster

    I’ve been reading about and seeing more articles the last few months regarding the Chicago and Illinois debt crisis. Just going off memory, but read Moodys recently downgraded Chicago’s debt 3 levels to 3 spots above junk status. Chicago has a more vibrant and diverse economy than Detroit, but is seemingly in worse shape. Pension shortfalls alone are mind boggling, accounting for about 35 billion in debt between city worker and teachers union pensions. According to one article the pension crisis is 8x worse than Detroit. I read it’s over $7,000 per resident, and the city is required to put over 1 billion dollars into the fund this year.

    Politicians have obviously dropped the ball. Any of you local guys have some insight into this issue? Causes and solutions? Tax the shit out of property owners was one solution I heard. Cut benefits? Throw more politicians in jail?

    • SC Dave

      Get rid of unions, and democrats. But that wont happen

      • Cormonster

        Pensions need to be 80% funded to be considered “adequate” or “sustainable” or some other euphemism, and in Chicago it’s under 40%. Big, big trouble is brewing on the horizon in the next couple years, and it’s not going to be pretty.

    • NewBearInTown

      There’s no good answer man. Our entire state is overextended financially as it is. So the easy answer is to just cut funding to the pension plan, but then you’re doing two bad things: (1) Screwing over a lot of good people who gave their professional lives to make the state work; and (2) putting the burden on precisely the people who are vulnerable because they can’t work and don’t have time to plan.
      So you say fine, fund the pensions. But then everything else suffers: the schools, the roads, the police, the arts, everything. And the worst part is, one solution is to not fund the current pension plans, so we just make the problem bigger for the future.
      What. A. Mess.

      • Cormonster

        People have been predicting this type of crisis for over 20 years, yet politicians have done nothing. In fact the politicians just kept making bigger promises. It boils down to just math in regards to demographics and health care costs. Actuarial Tables. People are living longer, the baby boomers are retiring en masse, and health care costs keep going through the roof.

        Providing full pensions for people after 25-30 years of service is just not feasible anymore. In fact, it’s ludicrous. Some people might call it bordering on larceny by politicians that make those type of promises, and I don’t expect them to change anytime soon.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          You guys always point at the specifics, the minutiae. They’re just the results of a nation that allows private banks to control its wealth. Look at a graph of the actual value of a dollar since about 1913. All becomes clear.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      I’m against the death penalty in general, but I would have no problem with public execution of public servants who abuse their positions, and put companies/corporations/their own pockets ahead of their citizens. Fuckem.

      I’d start with the criminals in Congress, for either being too ignorant to understand the Fed scam, or understanding it and being complicit by sitting on their hands.

  • I always wonder if players actually keep track of FA. I thought Briggs would be too busy eating a gigantic chimichanga.

    “Appearing on ESPN 1000’s “Carmen and Jurko Show,” Briggs said that he
    was convinced that Tillman was going to sign with the Buccaneers and
    former head coach Lovie Smith. Tillman visited Tampa but ultimately
    agreed to a one-year deal with the Bears.

    “When he told me he
    had a trip to Tampa and then I saw [cornerback] Darrelle Revis got
    released, I thought it was pretty much a sure thing,” Briggs said. “I
    actually sent him a text saying that I wished him well and tell Lovie I
    say hi. I thought it was, and then the next day I get texts on my phone
    saying Peanut signed. I’m over here screaming. I’m just happy he’s back.”
    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Briggs-happy-Bears-re-signed-Tillman/e8be5623-52cf-4858-a1f2-b271f145f00c

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I call b.s on Briggs “screaming” about Tillman’s return. As a captain, he should have been motivated to convince Tillman to stay. It just says to me “Nah, I was happy to see him go to TB…actually, I was actually jealous that he was going to greener/warmer pastures to our man Lovie. But I screamed because I was happy that I don’t have to be one of the last guys on this team that wishes to not be here”

      • Shady

        I’m sure he was thirlled to have his classmate back. Seems legit to me mane. I thought the same thing when Peanut went to TB, but apparently all the begging on the blog worked and he came back to sweet home Chicago.

      • NewBearInTown

        I feel like Briggs gets beat up on a lot unfairly. He’s a good teammate and he’s honest with the media – can’t blame a guy for honesty.
        He’s not bitter, but he’s up front that this is a cut throat business and that good players and good friends move on every year. He’ll give 100% with whoever is lined up next to him, but its still sad to see Harris, Lach and soon Peanut go.
        I imagine Trestman would be right there with him. Trest has said more than once that the relationships you forge with the guy in the locker next to you will stay with you longer than all the money and fame.

        • Cormonster

          I agree with you.

          Briggs has been a complete professional with the Bears. He made a few comments that got blown out of proportion when some of his friends got fired. I’m sure most of us have been there. He was also disgruntled with his contract a few years ago, and rightfully got paid.

          He never let those situations affect his work ethic and play on the field. He’s earned everything he’s made with his production on the field. The media garbage reminds me of how Scotty Pippin was treated by the press.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Lac got treated unfairly, NBIT – by the fans. I cannot believe the degree he got shat on, particularly here on this blog. After all he meant to us for 12 years. The fans collectively booted him out the door like he was a thieving hooker.

          • johnnywad

            Its because he’s an asshole.

          • MB30SD

            He was being a thieving hooker… A thieving hooker that we had paid over and above his nightly asking price plus for years. And now that he was old and his titties were sagging and his vagina was loose… even though we were his last and only customer he still wanted to charge us what the super hot 25 year olds with huge beautiful tits, an ass you can bounce a quarter off, and a tight vajajay were getting. Then screamed to everyone on the street who’d listen about how we tried to stiff (see..) the whore we’d been paying for for years.

            That make more sense now? He was a thieving old whore man. A whiny bitter broken down thieving old whore… Who thought he still had all the goods and should be paid like it.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Ooooooooooh. Saucer of milk for table two!

          • NewBearInTown

            Even if Briggs agreed with you Irish, he still acted professional about it. You don’t see Briggs saying Lach got screwed by the organization, or insulted by Emery, or really even that the organization made the wrong decision. He just said it sucks to see my team-mate not brought back.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            I hope we draft that Max Bullough to replace him – not often you’re looking at a late round draftee that could do that. I’m pumped about that shut-out Kirwan gave him. This year’s Burfict. Smartest ‘backer he talked to, and built to bang. 6’4 250. Sit him behind DJW – teach him up.

  • Some in depth scouting on DT/DE Easly. With his knee issues, I don’t see E drafting him until the 2nd.

    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFL-prospect-focus-Dominique-Easley-and-Joel-Bitonio.html

        • NewBearInTown

          He’s my favorite cornerback that we’re guaranteed to get a shot at. But I seriously doubt he makes it out of the second round.
          Which is why I want us to grab him with our second round pick. Depending on the board, I wouldn’t even be upset if he went in the first round (say we trade back 5-10 spots for an extra third rounder).
          In a defense heavy draft that saw the following taken before our pick: Clowney, Mack, Gilbert, Donald, Jernigan, Barr, Dix, Pryor and Hagemon. I could see us letting some teams trade up to fight over the likes of Ebron, Watkins and the QB class. If we dropped back to #25 and got an extra second rounder, I suspect Fuller would still be there.
          And that would be awesome.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Ah … I like it … drop to #25 and draft Tuitt. Our DT/DE problem solved in a single stroke, plus an extra pick.

        • Johnathan Wood

          I really like Fuller, but he’s not in play at 14 and I doubt he lasts to 51. Like NewBear said, could be a target in the event of trade maneuvers.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Stopped reading after ‘surgery’ ….

  • tobijohn

    For all the scheit Jared Allen gets around here, I think it’s only fair to give credit when it’s due:

    http://jaredallen69inc.com/

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Over 10 years he’s averaged 13 sacks a year – that’s impressive. For a cracker.

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        lol, fucking cracker ass crackers

        • Bender McLugh

          was going to name a new band friends and I were forming “Premium Saltines”. Why? Cause we all crackas

      • johnnywad

        And he doesn’t appear to be all roided up.

  • Shady

    OK, Bracketology time boys. Who ya got?

    • Johnathan Wood

      my final 4 is Florida, Michigan State, Louisville, and Wisconsin.

      MSU beats Louisville in final.

      Recent history suggests you should be very worried if you have similar picks.

    • MB30SD

      Hi shady… here’s my final four:

      I
      Don’t
      Givea
      Fuuuuck!

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        you mean you don’t want a 1 in 5,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance of winning a billion dollars from Yahoo/Warren Buffett?

        • MB30SD

          Yes. That is EXACTLY what I mean. And I couldn’t give a smaller fuck about basketball if I was a midget

      • Shady

        Oh, OK… Fuckface.

        How about a fart in your general direction?

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          And your father smelled of …elderberries !!!

      • Five Yards for counting 2 words as 1.

  • C Jeremy Zuttah, anyone? Lovie’s Bucs apparently are having a fire-sale.

    Zuttah’s only 27, and can play guard too.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/17/report-bucs-will-listen-to-trade-offers-for-jeremy-zuttah/#comments

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Do we want our Centers to play guard? Is that a benefit?

      Looks like Bucs fans aren’t happy about this. Lovie dumped the LT, now the long-time center .. versatile and solid.

      • but he gave Josh McCown a chance to earn $15 million in 2 years. so screw the young bucs! in with the old!

  • savvy.
    “The Bears have faith in Collins, who tore his left ACL in Week 5 against
    the Saints. Collins, 26, signed a one-year deal worth $730,001. The
    extra dollar is important. It means it’s not a minimum deal, which
    allows the Bears to re-sign him before free agency opens if they have
    the available salary cap room.”

    http://www.suntimes.com/sports/26274597-419/rehabbing-bears-dt-nate-collins-does-know-squat.html

    • Trac

      First names please. For a moment there I was thinking “Tod Collins”. Cold sweats and trepidations. Bad, very bad.

      • MB30SD

        Collins….. nick, collins.

    • johnnywad

      Cliff

      • Viva

        Steiner!

  • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

    Haven’t followed the Irsay thing, but I want to know this – what would happen to a normal person in that State caught in the circumstances he was?

    • Trac

      The aim should always be to restore, rehabilitate. That should always be the target. Hopefully the dude gets the courage to turn his life around and he pulls his life together. The man has to be in a living hell to be so far gone.

    • NewBearInTown

      Roughly the same thing so far. Some folks can’t afford that level of bail, but those folks wouldn’t have bail set so high.

      • Trac

        People with money have advantage for sure but the problem is still the same.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          So does Irsay get a slap on the wrist, where Joe Public would get banged up?

          • Trac

            I try not to envy anyone but sometimes it’s easy to become cynical no matter how hard I try. I just hope I never end up like Flight 19.

  • anyone have any word on melton? have the bears 100% closed the door on his return? he keeps visiting teams and not signing contracts, so i’m not sure what’s going on.

    • Trac
      • MB30SD

        • Trac

          Lol

    • johnnywad

      He’s coming off a nasty injury that may never be right, played below average before getting hurt last year, was overrated prior to that as he was playing alongside a healthy Pepp, and he bit some guy in a bar and resisted arrest.

      • MB30SD

        yep, this

      • played below average? i know it’s only a 3 game sample, but the bears gave up like 250 yards total rushing in those games. then they gave up 250 yards average for the rest of the season.

        • johnnywad

          Melton was disappointing prior to the injury. He looked nothing at all like a franchise tagged DT. You were wondering why he hasn’t been snapped up. Its because he’s an average to above average player, that’s hurt and stupid. I felt the tag was silly a year ago. Apparently the NFL concurs.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            When the 6’7 monster beside you is getting doubled you’re always going to have inflated numbers. I never got the Melton love … but the tumescence in my footballing cock for Stephon Tuitt is about to explode.

            Melton doesn’t belong on the team.

          • i think it may be closer to what waffle (i think doooooon’t care is waffle? i know he was cutler’s flesh rod of doom or something… anyway) was saying – melton wants the multi-year, his agent is probably promising he’ll get it, so he keeps looking.

    • Johnathan Wood

      Emery hinted last week that Melton had waited too long and they weren’t reserving money to bring him back. Makes me think they gave him a contract offer, he declined and decided to shop around, and they didn’t hold it for him. Now they don’t have the $$ anymore.

      • NewBearInTown

        Probably the cash they gave Willie Young. Cutting Peppers gave the team money for two good sized D-line contracts. It could have been Houston and Melton, but it turned out to be Houston and Young because Melton wanted to spend more time working the market.

        • Johnathan Wood

          I think Young’s deal was going to go to Wootton before the hip surgery, but that’s nothing more than a guess.

      • Johnathan Wood

        here’s the exact quote: “We pretty much left it with Jordan (Melton’s agent) that he was going to go through this process, and when he got through it and he had a pretty good idea of what his market is, we could talk at that time. Of course, the clock is ticking. So our resources or what we have at the time may have changed. But we’ll see where we’re at when that’s all finished.”

        http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4691061/melton-return-seems-uncertain

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      he keeps going to new teams to get told the same thing. “ONE YEAR PROVE IT DEAL is all we can do at this point Henry”

      • which is really all he should get. the man just got 8 million to go to physical therapy 5 days a week. i’d like that life for a year.

  • Johnathan Wood

    FYI, I re-discovered this morning that saying anything but “Eddie Lacy is the best running back in the NFL” is a sure way to piss GB fans off. Apparently “good but not yet great” isn’t a fair descriptor for a RB who was good but not great last year.

    • MB30SD

      I sat next to a couple at dinner last night… they were from wiscaaaansin, and the man ended up being a packers fan since ’64 (of course). Super nice people. I told him their reign of terror is close to being over now that we’re getting rid of the last vestiges of lovie’s cancerous influence.

      He laughed and told me he remembered watching lovie’s incoming presser about his only goal was to beat his pack. Looking back over his tenure he said he just had to laugh.

      how about them apples you lovie lovers on this board. If that doesn’t make you angry you don’t have a pulse. And this was from such a nice older guy. He didn’t say one mean or derogatory thing to me all night while we talked about the rivalry.

      • Trac

        No telling what Lovie could have accomplished as the Packers head coach. Very intriquing indeed.

        • MB30SD

          Ha. well played.

          You’re in a jovial mood this week.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        That was always the warning sign with Lovie. Your goal isn’t to win the superbowl, it’s just to win two games a year?

      • CanadaBear

        Blah, blah,blah. Lovie was just throwing red meat to the masses. I’ve never seen anyone that gets more mileage out of nothing than you do.

        • MB30SD

          beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee…..

          Can we get a AED over here!?!? Does anyone know CPR? Help this canadian man, please!

          Hahahaha

          • CanadaBear

            I stand by my statement. You and I both know he was just preaching to the choir and you bring that up, oh maybe, 300 times/year. Let it fucking go.

          • MB30SD

            I told a story. it actually happened. Last night. The packer guy brought it up, not me. I simply relayed the story to you guys and exaggerated my reaction a bit for maximum entertainment value for you guys to enjoy.

            That said, I do dislike lovie’s coaching style and I am very glad he’s now the bucs problem.

            furthermore, I will continue to bring it up when and as I see fit my maings (think of it as my therapy to try and move through the years or torment).

            so feel free to skip the post, or to smack me down every time. I’m ok with either. Still love you… and that tattoo of yours. We need a pic for the blog please.

          • CanadaBear

            If i can find a decent pic I’ll post it. There is no doubt in my mind you will continue to beat that dead horse long after I’m dead.

          • MB30SD

            thanks!

            …uhhh, wait…

  • MB30SD

    Still shopping to be done: http://nfl.si.com/2014/03/17/2014-nfl-free-agency-best-remaining-defense/

    “Clemons was a do-it-all guy for the Dolphins last season, putting up 62 solo tackles, a handful of quarterback hurries and an interception. He’d be a fine fit for any team looking to add a deep safety who can also fly around against the run a bit.”

    Uhhhmmm… YES PLEASE! Why not move some money around and make this happen. It would give us ultimate flexibility in the draft. Data, $, BC, NB… thoughts?

    • Johnathan Wood

      I would actually love this move. Clemons was a guy I had my eye on when FA opened. The longer he sits on the market, the more his price comes down, the greater the chance CHI could swoop in.

      But I kinda doubt it happens. I think they’ll go for cheaper guys. I honestly think Emery would be ok with Conte/Mundy at S, and he’ll likely add a rookie to compete in first 2 rounds too.

      • MB didn’t want to believe me that Conte will prob start again this season.

        Listen to the Oracle, MB. And for god’s sake, don’t take the red pill.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          I saw ratings from PFF over on WCG … the two safeties we brought in were significantly lower rated than Wright/Conte, if they were accurate, or arrived at intelligently. I’m feeling STers or camp bodies moreso than signed as answers to prayers. It’s not without possibiity that Emery drafts a FS and a SS who end up starting, especially if he trades down out of the #14 spot and drafts Tuitt.

        • Johnathan Wood

          I think Conte could well be the starting FS. Have said that since last year.

          IN terms of PFF, Mundy was an upgrade over Major, Jennings about the same as Conte. But I don’t really trust PFF all that much.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Nah, the figures I saw for Mundy and Jennings were 37, 69 – don’t remember which was which. Conte and Wright were 86, 87 … like that. According to some guy on WCG .. .alleging these figures were from PFF.

            Unless we draft a FS in the first, it does look probable Conte is the man.

          • Johnathan Wood

            Conte has been solid in the past. If you put a solid front 7 in front of him he won’t kill you. Won’t be a stud, but won’t kill you either.

        • MB30SD

          I refuse to believe this.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      I had also been harping for Clemons, i think he ends up signing a 1-year deal w/MIA when it’s all said and done. I really would’ve preferred him to Mundy to be honest.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Liking what I’m hearing about Deone Bucannon, MB, Why spend money in FA, when we can get these guys young and cheap. Build teams how they’re supposed to be built.

      4.49 40 yds, 6’1 211lbs

      STRENGTHS: Boasts an imposing build with broad shoulders and a thick, muscled-up top half. Best attribute may be his explosive hitting, as Bucannon at times appears as though he is shot out of a cannon, unloading on runners and receivers crossing the middle and forcing fumbles. Doesn’t only rely on his big hits to create fumbles, also demonstrating the wherewithal to rip at the ball as he’s making the tackle (career-high three forced fumbles in 2013). Also showed improved range and ball-skills in 2013, recording a career-high six interceptions in 2013 to give him 15 for his career… Enjoyed a solid week of practice at the Senior Bowl.

      WEAKNESSES: Has a high, choppy backpedal and is stiff in the hips, limiting his ability to change directions fluidly. This leaves Bucannon vulnerable to double-moves and ball-carriers with the agility to cutback against the grain. While a big-hitter, too often Bucannon will lunge at ball-carriers, occasionally resulting in some ugly whiffs. Struggles a bit with tunnel vision, focusing strictly on the ball-carrier and losing sight of would-be blockers, who take advantage of his lack of spatial awareness to seal him off from the play.

      First-team All-American whose dependability near the line of scrimmage with 78 solo tackles (tied for 11th in the country) and three forced fumbles and in coverage — six interceptions — underscores his all-around ability.

      Bucannon’s ideal size, hard-hitting style and fierce competitive nature are exactly what teams seek at safety. However, his limited flexibility and poor awareness and reaction time in coverage are measured shortcomings.

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        because you need guys that know and excel at the PRO game. Too many rookies equals getting ass blasted on D from professional offenses designed to exploit mental lapses.

      • MB30SD

        Irish, this is the death knell for a DB (much more for a corner, but still)

        “Has a high, choppy backpedal and is stiff in the hips, limiting his ability to change directions fluidly.”

        It’s not the end all for a S, but still it’s pretty much exactly what a DB needs to do, Its the core of his movements. Stiff hips and a shitty backpedal pretty much exactly equates to getting smoked. Also, he sounds like a SS not a free. I’ve tried to tell you the diff maings. We need a rangy FS with size and aggressiveness who can cover the deep ball, but also take great angles on runner and bring the wood. Basically, chris clemons is a day-1 starter at FS.

        If DT is gone @ #14, pryor is our man to come in and be our franchise FS of the future (assuming clemons gets a short term deal)

        Oh, and what yonny said.

        • MB30SD

          STRENGTHS Very good instincts. Physical, lights-out hitter (see second defensive snap of UCF game). Very aggressive running the alley and seeks to make his presence felt in the run game. Sacrifices his body. Defensive tempo-setter. Made a spectacular, one-handed INT vs. UCF. Good pre-snap recognition — makes adjustments. Explosive tackler. Can leverage the field off the hash and cover ground. Good zone recognition. Rangy enough to play center field. Carries a swagger and plays with confidence.

          WEAKNESSES Plays with too much reckless abandon and lacks discipline playing the cutback. Takes some bad angles and can be outflanked to the perimeter. Average production on the ball. Is not asked to play a lot of man coverage.

          BOTTOM LINE A big, physical, hammering run defender brings an enforcer mentality to the box and an intimidating, punishing presence to the back end. Is arguably the most violent hitter in this year’s draft class and should make his presence felt readily in the pros.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          We don’t/won’t have a lot of rookies though, not starting anyway.

  • MB30SD
  • Trac

    I need to add the 4th type of player you sometimes find on a roster. The “Cancer” player. Can’t remember the last one we had? Me niether, lets keep it that way.

    • Bender McLugh

      I vote for Cedric. Dude sucked and complained and no one liked him.

    • Even Tony Montana Hurd wasn’t a distraction or douche about it. He just did his thing low pro, so thanks for being a pro (both off and on the field), Hurd!

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Welcome back Izzy!

  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

    Izzy back in the house. Solid depth and vet leadership.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      And kicks’ be gettin’ blocked !

    • He’s pretty much an older, cheaper Woot. Can play DT in a pinch. Good run defense, so-so pass rush.

      So now we have Houston, Young, Izzy as DEs. This should improve our LB and S play dramatically, in theory.

  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

    Earl declines pay cut and is expected to be released.

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      FUCK. There goes an incredible 3rd down conversion machine. All that guy does is play football well.

    • Shite. I guess he figures he took one last year and can get more playing time elsewhere (like the Panthers).

    • SC Dave

      🙁

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        fucking pissed right now. If he’s cut I guarantee you it will bit us in the ass.

        • SC Dave

          Hopefully, he goes out of division. He would be an upgrade for any team in the NFC North.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Lions make the most sense and that scares me.

          • SC Dave

            *sigh* Maybe the 49ers will take him. Or Tampa for that matter.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            I could see the Bucs in play, the new regime isn’t in love with Mike Williams and it would be a familiar target for Josh.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Tampa!

          • NewBearInTown

            Golden Tate took that spot. There are a bunch of teams that don’t have their two starters yet. That’s where Earl will get the best paycheck.

          • That’s why I went him as far away from us as possible. Steelers, Ravens, maybe SD so I can still see him from time to time.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Dude, it’s Earl Bennett here, not Jerry Rice.

  • Bear Down in Tampa
    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      it just doesn’t make football sense. If Alshon or Marshall goes down you need a guy like Earl to step in and make plays. He’s fucking money when you need him. there has to be a way. Cliff god damnit make it happen.

      • This might mean they’re trying to clear cap space for one more guy, maybe Clemons.

        This also means Wilson better fucking step up.

        • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

          Earl’s always been my guy. He makes plays and people just can’t understand why. Because he’s the definition of football player. If he gets cut they’d better sign Clemons. They’d better do something impactful with that money. Having Bennett on the team is important. Tough yards, tough TD’s, backup punt returns, etc

          • emergency QB too, isn’t he? Oh, I probably shouldn’t have reminded you of that lol

            He’s a baller. Hope he goes far away from the NFC. He would make a good Steeler/Raven.

          • MB30SD

            carolina would be a great fit for him. He’s a stud, just tough when you now have potentially three 6’4″ guys, two of whom are/going to be perennial pro bowlers.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Surgery Cam? They need receivers bigtime – I wonder if they’ll make a play for DeSean.

          • NewBearInTown

            Just read about Cotchery choosing between Pittsburgh and Carolina. I could see either team take Earl as a consolation prize. Pittsburgh actually makes a lot of sense for him. Denver too really.

          • MB30SD

            agree. If we get clemons it will make sense. That AND wilson better step the fuck up after one of our favorites is leaving because of it. Thanks Earl, love you maings.

          • Big Mike

            Sucks when it’s your guy. Even though he wasn’t around as long as Earl, my guy was the fullback Tyler Clutts. I loved that guy. Then the guy we got to replace him Fiammetta, cost the Bears two ballgames. .

          • Cllluuutsss!!!

      • SC Dave

        Emery, in his post-season presser, admitted he made a mistake by not providing enough depth on the defense. Let’s hope he’s not saying the same thing about the offense after next season.

      • Big Mike

        Earl doesn’t step in for either of those guys. There will be plenty of depth. Emery’s going to shock the world on draft day and take an WR in round 3. (who knows, I’m just saying shit now.. 🙂

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Earl is no replacement for either – he’s a born and bred slot. Wilson would have to stp up – or Tolliver off the PS.

    • NewBearInTown

      Earl is a classic cap casualty. We like him a lot as a player, we recognize his contributions in the locker room and on the field, but his being cut has nothing to do with his own skills. It has to do with Alshon and Brandon being monsters. Earl wasn’t getting enough snaps or enough targets to justify the money we paid him, simple as that.

      But Earl will probably land on his feet and might even see himself get a pay bump. The Jets and the Panthers are both in need of a lot of WR help. Earl is a great option for those teams. A true safety valve for young quarterbacks to pick up short yardage.

      I suspect Earl agrees with me, and that’s why he didn’t take a pay cut.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        It’s interesting that everyone is wishing him well for doing exactly what Brian did, when he didn’t provide anything close to what Brian did. The whole defense – and the team – revolved around Brian. Earl was a slot receiver, and an afterthought mostly.

  • Bear Down in Tampa
    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      I think earl dropped 2 passes in 4 years. Or that’s what it seemed like anyway.

      • Big Mike

        Earl is a good man. Bears are getting younger. Bad timing for him. He lived through the junk offense years. He’s the right guy at the wrong price. A hungry rookie or 2nd year guy, fighting for his 2nd contract… who is on his rookie contract is what we need. You can chalk this up to putting more money on the D side of the ball.

        Here’s hoping Earl can get paid somewhere south of Wisconsin.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          You watch. I’ll bet that’s EXACTLY where he goes.

    • Few observations:

      1. That chick. I would TOTALLY boink her. Just my type. Brunnette. Skirt. quasi-intellectual.
      2. Anthony Adam’s suit looks like it’s going to explode from the seams like Bruce Banner’s shorts.
      3. How god damn tall is is Wilson? When he was next to Alshon, Alshon looked short!

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        Wilson is 6’4. Emery said he has Alshon type ball skills. That is a huge compliment. They have to put weight on him though. His Youtube video is nice.

        • Johnathan Wood

          he better be ready.

        • Big Mike

          His change of direction speed in the three cone drill was in the top three and was best for “tall” receivers. Where that comes into play is a double move. Sprint, stop, spring again. Hopefully he comes back to camp at a bad ass 190-195lb.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          He’s nowhere near as tall as Double-T, and he’s built like an Ethiopian. Wilson is 6’3. Tolliver is 6’5.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Her and Sarah Spain.

      • MB30SD

        1. 7
        2. Love that he got that gig. Good dude.
        3. Skinny maings. skiiiiinnnyyyyy.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          1. If you’re a 6, then that’s a 3-pointer from the half-way line!

          • MB30SD

            more importantly, you can instantly become an 8 with DD fake boobs. Fact.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            No. If YOU are a 6, and she’s a 7 … then it’s a 3 pointer …..

      • 4. You can’t teach Bmarsh’s passion.
        He’s saying shit that these college draft prospects are trained to say by their agents, only, Bmarsh has been in the league for 6 years. HUNGER. PASSION. EYE OF THE TIGER.

        • MB30SD

          dude, I fucking LOVE bmarsh. He is the epitome of a fucking complete package badass. Great attitude to go with superhuman skills. Fuck megatron, I’ll take bmarsh every single day.

          • Big Mike

            Although Calvin Johnson is also a class act.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            My favorite Bear since Lac ‘retired’. Izzy was a fave too, though, glad he’s back, and glad Melton’s gone to the worst D in the league.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          Which is why the groundswell will be massive if he is allowed to leave in FA, no excuses, get that man an extension NOW!!!!

    • Big Mike

      Warms my heart to see Marques Wilson working out with the big boys. Man.. can you imagine If Marques takes off like Alshon did. Praise Jesus…

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Why is everyone so high on a skinny 7th round draft pick no one has seen play?

        • bearsfantillend

          same reason people like Ford. they see some bizarre potential from him playing against 4th and 5th string players in preseason games

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Receivers are different. Apples and oranges.

            You can look at one particular run from a back, just one, and tell if he’s got it or not. You show somebody who knows jack about football that KC run by Walter. Tells you everything you need to know about the man. The opposition is irrelevant when looking at a back making moves. Is he jinking like a stud? Does he have even have moves? Can he it bang it up the middle? Ford has it.

            How long do you need to look at somebody before you decide if they can dance or not? Does it matter if the people beside them can dance? Do I need to look at them night after night? Ford’s a baller, and the Chicago Bears don’t pull dudes in off the street to pound the rock. Receivers are works in progress, but runners are pretty much the finished article by the time they pull on a Bears jersey. Running is pure instinct, receiving is a lot of different things that have to come together first.

  • MB30SD

    btw, while we’re all hurt and pissed that one of the board favs in Earl the pearl is all but gone now (I don’t blame him… this would have been his what, 3rd pay cut after having done nothing but ball for us), I have to throw something out there on a VERY positive note.

    IF he does leave and we use that freed up $2.5 to get clemons in at FS… along with Izzy back today… think about the total and complete flexibility we have in the draft to pick the best possible guy available to be a day-1 starter somewhere on D.

    …AND, just how much better our D is RIGHT NOW before we even pick up that assumed franchise D starter @ #14… along with another potential 2nd rd starter if emery does well. I mean, we probably already have a top 20 D today (barring catastrophic injuries again)!

    In rd 1 I’m convinced we’re going pryor (since donald and dix will be gone)… unless grimes is still there, then we’ll take him. And then get a tuitt type in rd 2

    If that all happens, and with FA and our huge cap next year plus another draft… emery will have cemented his spot as a complete and total bad ass. And this team will be young and scary again… finally.

    Now…. emery just has to deliver. (please god no reaches emery, there’s absolutely zero need for it this draft)

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      if he reaches, he dies.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Trestman has to become a leader on that side of the ball also.

      • EnderWiggin

        How so? I mean sure, we want the whole team believing the same philosophy. But as far as that side of the ball is concerned – Tucker HAS to become the leader.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          So… let’s do it like last year ? Trestman has to be the guy, he is not just a coordinator, he is the head coach of the Chicago Bears. Plus Tucker can’t do it on his own. It’s obvious. We really don’t need another Lovie, Trestman has to step up PS: I do think the lesson has been learned. The ‘new’ position of Aaron Kromer is the proof that we are going in that direction. This could have been the plan from day one… take a year to teach the offense, then become more balanced in the management of group.

          • EnderWiggin

            Maybe. I just don’t want the offense to suffer AT ALL to make the defense a little better. If Trest wants to make the D guys buy-in to his “win the day” mantra or whatever, I’m OK with that. But as far as leading the defense, and running the show defensively – I really believe that has to be Tucker’s gig. 100% his.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            This is not about ‘running the show on defense’. It’s about being a presence and leader for everybody. It’s in the little things. Trestman isn’t stupid…you’ll see the difference this year. It’s going to be different.

          • EnderWiggin

            Good. I’m all-in too!

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            What does Tucker know about hybrid defenses? Bueller?

          • EnderWiggin

            He ran hybrids in Jacksonville and Cleveland.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            That’ll do it.

        • Tucker resembles Bubba Gump. Can a defense respect that? I guess we’ll find out. All aboard the shrimp ship…

    • Big Mike

      Is Clemons in the $2.5 million range? I really hope the Bears don’t need to draft a safety. Right now the group they have are a bunch of “show me something” guys. I don’t want to take a Safety with the #14 pick. I want a DT. Donald, or Jernigan,will be there. But the guy Emery takes, probably hasn’t been mentioned yet. Isn’t that what he does? Let’s just hope its more Kyle Long than Shea McClellin.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Donald won’t be there if he’s the consensus best DL guy from college. He won’t make it out of the top ten, likely goes in the top 5 IMHO. And then we won’t hear from him as he gets swallowed up by men-sized men until he gets his shit straight. Haven’t heard anything good about Jernigan. As you say, maybe Phil drafts some guy nobody has even mentioned.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Is Clemons your starting FS for the next five years – you happy with that? Or do we just built an awesome DL, rush Greene and Bostic, and then hold out for one more year until we can draft the best safety available in round 1 next year (kind of hoping we go 6-10 this year after Cutty goes down in week 4). We get the best safety in the class in that scenario, plus other top picks to cement the Lombardi run in 2015.

      • MB30SD

        jesus dude. We can get the best safety in the draft this year man. In fact, there’s a chance we can have our pick of the top 2. smh.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          So why sign Clemons?

          • MB30SD

            Why not. Go from zero good safeties for the last 10 years to 3 in one off season. Yes please

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Chris Williams looks like he could be a nasty little slot guy.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    The amount of cap room with Earl and Weems gone, plus Izzy signing today (assuming its a min salary benefit deal) is: $7,167,329. That’s enough to sign our draft class and Clemons and have some left over for emergencies.

    • MB30SD

      yes please.

      How about JMK instead of BC btw?

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        JMK? I might’ve missed a post, once I leave work I rarely get a chance to come on here. Got a 3 and 1 year old and they take up most of my free time.

        • MB30SD

          figure it out.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Ah, prefer bean counter, not a fan of Keynesian economics…I’m an Adam Smith guy (although not pure Laissez-faire policy, some reg is necessary). It is a lot of work, but it’s great, got another one coming in August.

          • MB30SD

            Yeah, you gotta pick one right… I just chose the most ‘popular’ brand.

            holy fucking shit dude. Are you crazy? Irish twins almost. My god… congrats (and better you than me. ha!)

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Haha, thanks! That’s too funny because my wife is of Irish decent, so it is completely applicable in this case.

          • MB30SD

            man, lot of work… and diapers. best of luck

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            WTF? Is there anyone on here who is NOT Irish or Jewish? Or black … like me.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Total regulation of the banks is necessary. If we figure that out, then economic systems are all just intellectual fodder. Reagan’s administration started the landslide and handed the globe over to the Banks. An Irish Prez tried to take it away from them, then an Irish Prez handed it all back.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          I’ve got twin 3 year olds mang, they MMA each other while I’m connected to the matrix. Ones-ies. Jesus.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    With the possibility that Weems and Earl are gone that leaves Beast, Beast Jr., Marquess and Hixon as the wideouts.Who is the 5th WR? Is it Chris Williams, 5’8″ 175 4.39 40? or Terrence Tolliver 6’5″ 204?

    • Johnathan Wood

      Joe Anderson? Just cut by PHI, could be back in camp looking to earn 5th WR/ST role Weems had.

      But my money is on Chris Williams as WR/return man.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        TT highlights, can he play specials?

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Could never understand how he’s not on the full roster. Alshon’s hands, plus he’s taller. Everyone’s in love with the skinny 7th rounder (though Tolliver was undrafted).

      • NewBearInTown

        Was just about to mention Joe Anderson as a half joke, but he’s the kind of game teams like to bring back. Kind of like Idonije.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Chris Williams CFL highlights.

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        watching those Canadian highlights I can’t help but wonder how our beasts would do with 20yd deep endzones.

      • tobijohn

        Burris became a superstar in the CFL. Really.

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      lol, don’t bring up Tolliver. Irish will want to cut Alshon to make room for him.

      • alshon is garbage now that jay is his quarterback.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        We’ve got room now! BM, AJ, CW, MW, TT. Love it. One more slot guy and that’s that. Is Weems still there?

    • Big Mike

      Does the 5th receiver ever play offense? It matters not who the 5th receiver is. More important that the 5th receiver is a top 11 special team guy.

      • NewBearInTown

        Two injuries in the WR group and the fifth receiver is your slot guy. With Marty on the team, we won’t play too many 4 WR setups, but you do need some depth at the position.

        • Big Mike

          If the two injuries are you know who and you know who, the whole thing is moot and the Bears are playing for draft position again.

          Earl is a class act, reliable, reliable, professional, productive and tough. It’s clear to me that the money is going to the other side of the ball It’s also clear that they like Wilson. What this move might do, is allow the Bears to draft a receiver in the 3rd or even the 2nd round.

          • SC Dave

            *sigh* Drat someone that wo’t be in the league to replace Earl. Brilliant!

            Gee, sure makes me fucking hopeful.

            Sure hope all you Wilson fans are right and he’s worth losing Earl. I really, really, really fucking doubt it.

          • Big Mike

            got to let go of the past to move forward. Need to allocate salary based on reality. Earl’s production wasn’t work 2.5

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            exactly. I loved Earl more than anyone but he is going to see exactly what other teams are willing to pay and that is going to be exactly what the Bears wanted him to play for.
            Except maybe Carolina who just fired their whole WR corps.

          • NewBearInTown

            Disagree Johnny. I think Earl will get more than the $2.5M the Bears were set to pay. Two reasons: (1) He’s the #2 receiver and punt returner on a lot of teams, so he gets starter money; (2) teams like Oakland the Jets are running into trouble getting over the minimum salary floor.

            I think Carolina will offer him the same $2M or so the Bears would have paid, but if the Jets or Raiders come calling, he’ll probably get $3-5M average on a multi-year deal. Think about it, if you’re New York and you need to spend $20M+ between now and the start of the season, why not give a known quantity like Earl some up front money and solidify your WR group.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            We have receivers up the kazoo (incl. Forte and Uni), can’t lose any sleep over the #5 guy. Just can’t. He built up a rep and now he wants the Benjamins. Good for him.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Martellus needs to step the fuck up, whatever was going on with him last year. We shouldn’t be concerned with what our WR3 is doing.

            On this team in terms of receiving, it goes : 1. BM 2. AJ. 3. MF/MB 5. Fkn whoever …. can’t pay that #5 guy multi-millions. This is football, not a welfare office.

          • Big Mike

            Only so many footballs, I was happy with Martellus Bennet.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            If Wilson becomes a Jeffery type of player…then what ?

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Big ‘if’ my friend ….. and not a bad problem to have if it should transpire that way!

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            If we draft a WR in the second or even the third, then Emery deserves a 2 Wood straight in the nutsack.

          • Big Mike

            I said it opened the possibility. If there is huge value on the board, he just might. He hasn’t gone by the “book” yet.

            BTW, who uses a 2 wood?

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            I was considering the 5, but there’s a lot of loft on that …. might catch the sack more sweetly though ….

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        They do. That Wilson kid played an important number of snaps. Without any injuries. If chages if you see Weems as the 5th guy. Or Hester.

        • Big Mike

          He was their 4th receiver last year and he had 2 catches.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Why throw to the rookie when you can use the other 4 beasts on Offense ? The snaps are important. They where clear routes and it was run support or screen support. In this offense everything is connected, very role is crucial. They say the kid did his role in satisfying manner so he’ll get more targets. It’s how you have to do it. I’m excited for him…loved his rebel outburst against the Man when he was at Washington State.

          • Big Mike

            Exactly why it doesn’t matter that much. You need good soldiers. Nothing spectacular, can’t burn up cap space. I believe Wilson will do fine.

      • Johnathan Wood

        injury depth. Thin if Marshall or Jeffery get hurt

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Which is why we need to keep the bigger receivers on board. Can’t lose AJ or BM and then throw in Earl – he’s just not that guy.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Double-T has always been my vote. Man-sized.

  • CanadaBear

    I was travelling the last 2 days and wasn’t online. Had to laugh about all the Irish stuff yesterday. Full disclosure; I have a Leprechaun dancing a jig on a cliff tattooed on my left leg and a pot of gold sitting on the opposite cliff tattooed on my right leg. There is a huge rainbow (with clouds) connecting them. Total needle time was 20 hours. I can’t tell you how many times my wife has had me drop trou to show it off. Mostly to women! My wife loves the prevailing comment from most women, “It’s so big” as they stare at it. Oddly enough I could probably drink for nothing every St Paddy’s day just showing it off in bars. Why is that odd? I got it after I quit drinking.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    https://twitter.com/ESPNChiBears

    Craig Steltz and some other dude (a safety) have agreed to deals, contract terms coming…I assume at the minimum.

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      Danny McCray is a huge safety. He’s a pretty solid special teamer and plays a bigger run support safety type game.

    • NewBearInTown

      Steltz isn’t a starting quality safety (or at least he wasn’t when he started here). But he’s a good backup option. Lovie used to line him up like 30 yards back, and he was decent at keeping the play in front of him. That’s not what you want from a starting safety, but its better than putting a guy back there that’s just getting torched.

      • MB30SD

        you mean like conte

        (that was for dave AND canada)

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Yup, if you dn’t know shit from shinola, just keep it all in front of you. Peanut kept handing off to MW/CC last season except they never got the memo.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Just tell me that cock Walters is gone. Steltz is okay. That means we are definitely not drafting a SS. And if we don’t draft either of the top 2 or 3 safeties in the first 2 rounds then we’re reaching bigtime if we draft anyone else. I’m smelling a CB in the top 3 rounds, hopefully with a DT and a DE. Somebody like Ikard in the 4th, nicking Max Bullough in the 5th or 6th and Emery hits this one out of the park.

  • Johnathan Wood

    Whole lotta moves today but nothing big. Expect that to be the norm until the draft.

    Bennett officially released, BTW.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    My favorite thing of the FA period so far (other than the guys we signed) is the fact that MJD is still looking for work and Jay got a fat extension. Karma is a heartless thing ain’t it Mo.

  • gpldan

    Hot war in the Ukraine. Bang bang!

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26637296

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Two of the professors I’m friendly with are Russian and Ukrainian/Crimean. It’s a very long storied fucked up situation. The west of the Ukraine has historically been occupied – or attempted occupancy – by Turks, Poles, Brits, Martians, the whole-nine yards. A minority ultra-nationalist party gets into government (!), and now 97% of the country wants to get back under the safer umbrella of Putin’s Russia as an ‘independent state’ – better the devil you know!

      After WWII the buzz there was #1 Kill the Jews. #2 Kill the Russians. #3 Kill the Communists. Given that half of Russia is filled with Ukrainians, half of the Ukraine is filled with Russians, with plenty of Jews… and everybody is inter-married to everyone else (lots of half-half families) – it doesn’t leave a lot of room for maneuvering. The ‘news’ coverage in the States is laughable – well, Fox’ is anyway – they spin it like Putin is invading the Ukraine! He’s trying to protect the overwhelming majority of folk who are scared of the nutters running their country, and think Putin is the lesser of two evils.

      Fucked. Up.

  • gpldan
    • MB30SD

      man, now all I need is $33M to piss away on a car collection.

  • CanadaBear

    In memory of Earl.

    • Shady

      Jon Ryan spent the rest of that season on IR with a broken soul.

      • CanadaBear

        I didn’t spend any time looking but the entire play at full speed, when Devin was taking one to the house, was spectacular!

  • SC Dave

    Cutler *better* fucking be worth all we’re losing for that big ass contract

    • johnnywad

      Who? Our third receiver, a washed up return man that did nothing else, a washed up running back, Major Wrong, and a Julius Peppers that was set to make more money than most of the quarterbacks in the league to show up for three games. Conte is the goat but Peppers lost the Packers game by losing contain. The team is better today than it was in December.

      • MB30SD

        I like you son. Hell, you can come over and fuck my sister.

        THIIIIIIIIIIS!

      • SC Dave

        We’ll see what you think when Peppers kills Cutler.

        • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

          They didn’t even offer Pep any sort of deal. The brass think he fucking mailed the entire season in because he was pissed about Lovie and Marinelli. It showed too.

          • SC Dave

            If you knew so well how these guys think, perhaps you can explain why you did not tell us that emery was going to draft McClellin?

            And I tell people *I’m* full of shit?

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            why are you getting all crazy all of a sudden dude. Dave, think about it. They didn’t even offer him 5 to 7.5 Mil a year which is less than half of his salary. They didn’t even call him. It’s not like they offered him 8 mil and he said no do 10 but they couldn’t because of the cap. they did not offer him anything. they also signed his replacement before even letting him go.

          • SC Dave

            Fine.

            I’ll leave it saying Peppers is now a Packer with something to prove, and I don’t like that idea.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            it sucks but it has nothing to do with anything except for how they feel about Peppers and their views on how he did or did not fit in with the Bears future plans.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            He wasn’t all that effective last season. I don’t see how he finds the fountain of youth this season. I’ve got Plantar Fasciitis now myself I think, I can hardly walk, never mind overcome an offensive line at speed. It’s the Lions front that we should be worried about. But a pissed-off Pep, yeah …. Cutty will be thinking about that.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            Dave, I can’t tell the future so that’s why I couldn’t predict that Emery would choose McClellin over Chandler Jones. I can however deduce from recent events and the fact that an offer wasn’t even extended to him that people inside the organization (coaches, gm, upper management) were thoroughly unimpressed with the on and off field contributions of Julius.

        • johnnywad

          So they should have paid Peppers $18M this year to prevent that? So you’re cool paying $18M for 6 sacks but not for the guy the widely proclaimed “Quarterback Guru” said is THE guy?

          • SC Dave

            Then Cutler better be top five then, eh? I mean, McCown was under Trestman.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          No worries. Then Josh goes in …. oh …. wait ….

          Here’s a fucked up thought. Dallas need to off-load Orton. Chi-town is a very likely landing spot for him. Edging toward the playoffs, Cutty goes down and Kyle takes us there .. .the guy we packaged with two firsts and two thirds …in order to get Cutty here in the first place. Ain’t life keen ?

      • SC Dave

        Oh, and fuck off on your idiotic parroting of the drone sportswriter line on Peppers not “showing up”. In four years, he started 64 games. And your golden boy QB started how many?

        • johnnywad

          You fuck off Dave. Your comment is stupid. He had six fucking sacks in 16 games dickhead. Cutler ran the number 2 offense in the NFL. Who gets the money? Surely you’re smart enough to see that.

          • SC Dave

            Are you fucking serious?

            JOSH MCCOWN split the number two offense and as far as QUALITY goes was BY FAR the bigger contributor last season.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            well that is just not correct.

          • SC Dave

            Perhaps you’d care to explain why? McCown had better numbers in:

            completion percentage
            touchdown percentage
            interception percentage (absolutely no contest)
            yards per attempt
            yards per completion
            rating
            sack percentage

            In other words, Josh was better in EVERY qualitative passing statistical category there is. Oh, and win percentage too.

            http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/chi/2013.htm

          • MB30SD

            can he do it for a full season (or most of one I guess), or multiple seasons… without a competent oline or bmarch, ashlon, bennett?

          • SC Dave

            Don’t know, just as we don’t know whether Cutler can.

          • johnnywad

            Well, not for any of the last thirteen for six different teams. But certainly for a 2-1/2 game stretch surrounded by top tier talent.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Cutty had the same talent there Johnny ….. still forces it in there where it doesn’t belong. Has to show off the cannon every single time, and touch isn’t his thing. I’ll take Josh’s style every time. Substance over style if you will.

          • johnnywad

            I’m aware of that. He was also a first round draft choice that went to the Prow Bowl at 25. He set Bears passing records in four seasons while protected by JWebb, throwing the ball to Devin, Kellen Davis, Roy Williams, Johnny Knox and being coached by Mike Tice and another guy that got rid of Greg Olsen in favor of Brandon Manufatass. Let’s all just ignore history. Let’s ignore that Josh couldn’t catch on anywhere for 12 years. Let’s forget that this supposed “starting quarterback” was coaching high school football when he should have been playing at his peak. Let’s just assume he was the league’s biggest mystery and well kept secret. If you really want to see who Josh is, go back and watch the Vikings and Rams games. That’s who he is. He played GREAT against Dallas. I’m glad. Dallas was awful and checked out. GI back and look at the play the Bears beat the Bengals with. Ask yourself if Josh makes that play. Ask yourself this. If he’s as good as Jay, why is it that he’s playing for UP TO $5M for a fucking offensive retard, in a league absolutely starved for quarterbacks. Because he’s Kyle Orton without the arm That’s why. And as far as touch passes go, you’re nuts. Watch the games dude. Jay can make throws that maybe 5 quarterbacks in the league can make. He can throw any ball. I will acknowledge he has his warts. But good look finding one that doesn’t. He played a shit game against the Lions last year. Worst game of the season. That said, the rest were good to great. You know who else did that last year? Drew Breeds, Payton Manning, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers. And yes, I know they’re all better than Jay. Everybody knows that. Next January, we’ll look at Josh’s stats and Jay’s stats. And we’ll all see who they are. And you’ll be wrong.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Don’t get me wrong. I wanted them BOTH, that’s the thing. But McCown’s history is irrelevant – he looked pretty good with us, and that’s all that counts. I have no idea who Jordan Palmer is or what he can do. Have to disagree on Jay’s touch though – he does lots of things that few can do, yes – but his default position is the laser cannon, and that keeps it low for hungry DBs who know what’s coming. Get in his face, and then sit back the DBs and wait for the present. Josh didn’t have the cannon, so he had to be safer – dink and dunk, nice rainbows for the beasts to go up and get. It’d just be nice to have both guys. Emery probably wants something more long term behind Jay rather than the one-year fix of McCown, and maybe that’s the right thing to do. We’ll see.

          • SC Dave

            You go Johnny. Perhaps you look forward to thumping your chest about being right when Jay gets better numbers playing in a top-tier offense with the “QB whisperer” and Josh is playing with inferior weapons for a coach you have repeatedly pilloried for not understanding offense.

            And perhaps overlook the irony of calling my comparison of two guys playing in the same offense on the same team “out of context”?

          • johnnywad

            He played with those weapons in the Vikings and Rams games Dave. Why couldn’t he score?

          • johnnywad

            Never mind. The entirety of the football universe with the has spoken on this matter. With the exception of you and Irish, it decided Jay is better. Furthermore, you spent the season defending the safeties when everybody could see what they were, clamoring on and on about Devin, hating the best quarterback to ever play for the Bears, and now pissed about Earl being gone as it relates to Jay’s contract when the two are not connected. Now Jay is getting paid fair market value for what may turn into seven years, and all of your guys are gone. You’re just wrong and refuse to entertain that option.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            Dave, i would have to turn in my man card and my football badge if I was going to start breaking down statistical categories like completion percentage, TD percentage, yards per attempt and yards per completion and taking them completely out of context to compare two different guys playing different teams on different days under different conditions. the fact that some of them are within fractional amounts of each other and others like completion percentage are both among the best in the league is besides the point.

            I’ll just say that these “categories” are definitely real and the numbers are calculated using real plays. I won’t give them much more credence since we’re talking 11 men on a side.

            Win percentage bro? Do you want to talk about the second Detroit game and the last Packers game? Games that transcend “stats” and could have gone down in fucking bears lore because of guys playing hurt, stepping up on the biggest stage, etc.

          • SC Dave

            Hmmm… two guys playing for the same offense with the same guys around them, in NFL regular season football games. What would you characterize as “in context” Johnny?

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            Dave, you can’t cite a stat about TD percentage and then ignore dropped, game winning TD passes.
            You can’t cite win percentage when the starting quarterback leads us to victory over the Packers to go to the playoffs and the D gives up a 90yd drive including 4 fourth down conversions to lose it. Then you say Cutler “just can’t beat the Pack”. It’s fucking nonsense.
            You can’t cite 66 to 63 completion percentages as some rationale of success over failure when the difference between the two stats is like 4 fucking catches and both are near the top of the league any way.
            Context is the exact game that is being played and those games change from week to week. Perspective on the success of one guy amongst 11 is needed. It’s a team game and it’s played against different people every fucking week.
            To say that Cutler can’t beat the Pack is fucking lunacy. To say that the Bears TEAM can’t beat the Pack is true. It’s a fucking team game and “elite” players are surrounded by “elite players and coherent scheme”. No quarterback has overall team success by himself. Not one. you can’t name one quarterback that has beaten another team by himself. You can’t take a 5 fucking game sample size for a guys whole career and say he’s the second coming just like you can’t take a guy that played in a completely different offense for 5 years with a much different complexion and base his future success off of his struggles and successes in the past.
            I’m done with this line of posts. The Bears have a franchise quarterback, an offensive minded playcaller, a solid O line, great skill position players and a real plan for the future. That is vastly different than what we’ve ever had. Now the D gets fixed because it was ignored and mishandled for so long in the draft by Angelo. The Bears have their guys in place and that’s a good thing.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            I’m with you on this one Dave. My feeling was that the offense was more fluid under Josh. Stats aside (except maybe INTs) …he wasn’t giving the ball away. Drives happened. We ate up the clock. With Cutty our offense feels more like punt, punt, punt, Crazy TD …. or punt,punt, INT, punt, punt, Crazy TD.

            But it’s not about who’s better – it was just great to have two QBs who could get it done. That’s what a dangerous roster has. Now? We put all our eggs in the one basket.

            Getting Orton back might redress the balance. I think hindsight has shown us Orton PLUS the draft picks was too high a price to pay for a gunslinger IMHO.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Yup. I would have offered Jay 17/18 Mill, with Josh the other 4M. There’s just too much of a discrepancy between the two salaries when the guy on the smaller salary outplayed the big gun. You need to cement the position, not the player. Right now the QB position is fucked. Maybe we get Orton. Maybe we don’t.

            Apologies if we have Steve Young sitting on the bench, but we don’t know much about Jordan Palmer.

        • MB30SD

          Eeeaaasy guys.

          You’re both great contributors, let’s try to keep it friendly. I didn’t like canada’s post to me earlier, but not worth the regs getting at each other. WE’re going to disagree, and change is hard for everyone.

          None of us knows how this will all turn out, we can only hope it ends in Feb.

          • I leave the blog, and this is what happens.

            Are you guys still downing leftover green kegs?

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            I think the argument is ultimately pointless. We like Jay, we like Josh. We wanted both. Not happening, but it could have. Emery went with what was best for Jay, not the team IMHO. We could have robbed a little from Peter in order to pay Paul. We could have.

          • MB30SD

            I don’t get it man. You have a 4 game sample size. He’s 34. He almost retired. Did you not watch and learn from the sagas of Matt flynn and Kevin kolb??? Guys who came in mid season for the injured franchise, had a great 2-4 game run in a SYSTEM and then went on to get huge contracts and return to utter dogshit with sprinkles of one or two game flashes?

            That will be Josh McCown next year without mark trestman and kromer… without our line and bmarsh, ashlon, black uni, matty… and lovie fucking Smith as head coach.

            If he’s a star all of next year not only will I be shocked, but guys like Phil sims, jaws, and Chucky will be too. I promise you. This isn’t fantasy land where dreams come true my man it’s the what have you done for me lately. League

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            But what he achieves in Tampa is irrelevant homie. It’s what he could do on our roster for us … if the golden boy goes down. I agree though, his options in Tampa are quite different

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      Dave, we haven’t lost shit with that contract. We’ve added much needed depth and youth and energy. I don’t see Pep’s dead money irking you one bit. Or Bush’s, or Devin’s. That’s fucking 11 Mil right there man. You’re worried about the hit for a current franchise QB that is actually playing. I wouldn’t be surprised if we are still paying for a couple of more guys as well that we are not even talking about right now. Priorities.

      • SC Dave

        We lost quality depth. Losing that last year on defense is what kept us out of the playoffs.

        Don’t believe me, ask Phil.

        • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

          Dave last year we suffered catastrophic injuries to the defense. We lost :

          Ellis (starting rotational DL to fucking retirement the same day as camp)
          McBride (starting rotational DL to injury)
          Melton (starting pro bowl DL to injury)
          Collins (Melton’s fucking backup and DL rotation)
          Paea (played on one leg)
          Wootton (played with a torn labrum)
          Briggs (Pro Bowl LB and possible HOF to injury)
          Tillman (Pro Bowl DB and Bears all time player)
          Williams (STARTING MIDDLE LINEBACKER)

          Nothing could have changed last years outcome unless we somehow stop fielding punters, kickers, DB’s and linebackers and just dress all Def Linemen while assuming that every single guy on the team would get fucking hurt. Don’t get all extreme on us now and forget what the fuck happened. It was Catastrophic.

          • SC Dave

            I merely pointed out what Emery said.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            no, you just said that signing Cutler to that contract somehow has affected our quality depth even though we are on the same pace to have the same type of depth prior to last years murderers row of injuries. We also added FOUR safeties to compete while dropping the WORST RATED SAFETY in the league in Wright. We added TWO brand new Defensive Ends, re-signed a bunch of our own guys already, extended the best kicker in the history of the team, signed a franchise QB and let go of Julius Peppers who was due to hit the team for 18.5 MILLION. Then we signed Izzy back today and added a KR that they think could be special from Canada and in Hixon. In regards to Pep, There were games last year where he did not record ONE SINGLE TACKLE. That is indicative of some sort of issue.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            Also, they easily could have designated Pep a post June 1 cut which would have lessened his cap hit this year even further by about 4 million i think but STEIN, who is smarter than both of us combined with an Pakistani spelling champ, feels that we can execute the strategy without letting Pep affect next years cap as well.

          • NewBearInTown

            This reminds me of a question I had, I will post up top.

          • SC Dave

            Some numbers (tackles/sacks/FF/int) from 2010-2013:

            Peppers 139/38/10/3
            Houston 171/16.5/4/1
            Young 46/6/1/0

            So, Peppers has almost twice as many sacks, twice FF, and three times INT as those two PUT TOGETHER. Yeah, between them they have more tackles, but I won’t add in whoever was playing the other end with Peppers as it would get too embarrassing for the new guys. Or of the fact that for most of last season, no opponent had to run outside since they could get nine yards a pop straight up the middle.

            Th Gould comment is not relevant, as Gould was signed before Cutler, took a pay cut, and is a far better kicker than Cutler is a QB – a point only the most myopic Cutler fan would even consider arguing against.

          • MB30SD

            34/26/28

            those are the numbers you need to focus on dave. pep is a super star, but he was done with us one way or another.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Only if she’s 5’3″

          • MB30SD

            Bang! Bang! (no, I mean literally)

          • SC Dave

            Yeah, a shade narrow at the hip otherwise.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            Dave, I would have liked to see Julius be a Bear for 8 Mil a year. There was a reason why he was not even offered a contract. His awesome stats prior to last year are not in dispute here. His 18.5 Mil cap hit and atrocious overall performance is what the Bears had the issue with. I watched Pep get manhandled in one on one situations. I watched him get outrun, I watched him fail to record a tackle in multiple games. I don’t know why that happened but I know there are probably a couple of reasons and not one in particular.
            The Gould comment is fucking super relevant. You talk about Cutler taking up cap space to sign some mysterious “quality depth” and at the same time have no problem with the Bears, who had 1.6 in cap space left and needed it in case of injuries at the time signing Robbie to a 4yr extension worth about 15 mil with 9 million guaranteed. Pay cut my ass. he was the highest paid kicker in the league in 2008 when he signed that extension then they threw 9mil in his pocket. You’re in weird angry mode so I can’t even address the last comment which is just you lashing out with a weird apples to kittens comparison.

          • SC Dave

            Your problem is you never see that Cutler has yet to demonstrate he is worth what he is paid to date. Believe me, I hope that changes with some stability in the offensive system and a competent line.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            lol, I typed it but I deleted it. I just couldn’t bear to press send.

          • johnnywad

            It appears the reform is sticking.

          • MB30SD

            shady and I were just talking about how impressed but also saddened by his reformation we are… all while he killed me repeatedly by stabbing me in the back with a knife from 40 feet away… while he ran towards me, running directly into a full stream of my automatic 7.62 fire. SMMFHVV!

          • johnnywad

            This is Shady. He’s “The Rooster”.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            THIS !!! OHHHH THIS!! His salary is standard fare …. but what he cost us initially, that’s the key. Not just four high picks …… but a decent QB to boot. That’s a lot. We traded in our kids, paid for a high-class hooker and we haven’t had so much as a BJ yet.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            that is the rationale of someone that doesn’t realize that NO QUARTERBACK could have sustained success under that old 2009 to 2012 shit show that we had going on.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            How is Pep worth even 8M if he can’t play football? Damn, I’d rather give that to Cracker-boy Duellin-banjos than a one-legged gimp like Peppers.

          • johnnywad

            You know Houston was a rookie in 2010 right? So you’re throwing his first couple of years in the league into the mix and stacking them next to Peppers in his prime as he was signing a $100M FA contract. And Houston still has more tackles. They had the same number of sacks last year.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            don’t you dare put actual football logic into this argument. we’re fucking talking statistics here.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            In fairness to both players, Pep is a pass-rusher primarily, Houston a run-stuffer, but I did find Pep’s game stats almost non-existent last year. He’d do something one game, disappear the next two. He was the defensive Greg Olsen.

          • SC Dave

            Let’s see…. Peppers was in his prime for this particular argument, but his best days were at Carolina in others.

          • johnnywad

            I’ve never made this argument or any other argument regarding Peppers’prime in Carolina. This is the first time I’ve mentioned it on this blog.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            The two boys were also green then, Pep had the benefit of experience on his side, so there’s that. But there can be no disputing that Pep was a different animal with Carolina, and we were overpaying him. We paid Pep based on what he used to do. Young and Houston are no stars, but they’re on the up, and I swear to you – I feel it in my waters – if we draft Tuitt, we’re going to party like it’s Nineteen Eighty Five, and Julius will be long forgotten. Lombardis are great for making amnesiacs of us.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            It really does sound like they’ll give Conte another year, then we draft his replacement in the first next year. We could easily have found the 5M for McCown elsewhere, they just decided not to for some reason.

          • Hayden, starting nickle CB.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            You could add Pep in there with his foot – he was playing injured and they din’t have the balls to call it by replacing him with somebody lesser-talented but firing on all cylinders e.g. Bass /Washington.

            Think about it. We lose an OT or a Center in week one or two. A receiver. What kind of shape are we in offensively moving forward? Then .. God forbid …..it’s the QB …. how much would a Josh McCown be worth to us then ?

            Please God/Nature .. we’re relatively injury free on BOTH sides of the ball this year. That almost guarantees you a superbowl run no matter who you are.

      • MB30SD

        Brandon Hardin…… $300,000 THIS YEAR.

        Fuck me man. $300k for being injured and shitty. amazing.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Exactly, Devin cuyld have paid for Josh. It’s swings and roundabouts ….. UNLESS … they know something about Jordan Palmer that we don’t .. .and I hope they do.

  • johnnywad

    Earl had 234 yards last season. The sky is not falling.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Ed Zachary. Our #5 target.

      Joe Cool did a lot with Rice and Craig. Who was their #5?

  • gpldan

    Jarrett Payton was on the radio this afternoon, a low end FM station 87.7.

    He told a good story about his father. His dad, when he and his sister were just pre-teen, he took them to Toys R Us after hours, he had the place closed and he and his sister were to pick out everything they ever wanted about 2 weeks before Christmas. He told them to go wild, they could have as much stuff as they could pack into his car and he brought a SUV like vehicle.

    So they go crazy, fulfilling every wish and bringing shopping carts full of stuff, every single toy Jarrett ever wished for, model cars, RC stuff, whatever.

    And then he takes them home and tells them that night they need to wrap all their presents, to go under the tree. They don’t want to, because they are just going to unwrap them, so they plead but he says they have to. So they do.

    The next day he gets them up and they spend the next 12 hours in the car, with about 5 other cars full of stuff, driving around Chicago to United Way families. Walter makes Jarrett put the toys he and his sister picked out, he makes them put them under other people’s trees for other disadvantaged kids. Jarrett sees a lot of these kids, sees how they look at him and his dad. And he says he was never the same after that.

    • MB30SD

      awesome.

    • SC Dave

      Good story.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Got to say … if I’m Jarret … and this guy isn’t my football hero … and just my dad …. I’m thinking …… Dad …… you fkn prick !

      But …. class.

      My favorite story was Glanville’s. Oilers are playing Chicago and kicking their ass. Fans are throwing golf balls at Glanville (I don’t know the significance of golf balls). Walter walks around to the oilers’ sideline and stands beside Jerry. Glanville goes “What are you doin’?” … Wally goes “Coach, as long as I’m standing here ……they won’t throw any golf-balls……”

      Class.

  • tobijohn
    • Barb UMihai Mar

      And Marinelli got Melton.

      • tobijohn

        And that is that. If Woot doesn’t come back then we’ll have an entirely new defensive line. Well, almost…

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          I’d like him back. He deserves to be a Bear.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            After hip surgery ? Dunno about that ….

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            The cynical fan view here is that he’ll be cheap to sign. Hah. He had 60 tackles, 10 sacks, 6 pass defended in the last 2 years. And he is a proven multi dimensional lineman. It’s could be a bargain. I’d take a 1st round rookie DE also. I dont’ know if you can do that, but a 3rd down pass rush unit with 1st round DE-Wooton-Houston-Young would be my dream unit. Getting shit done.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            That sounds like a DE roster to cream over.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            No old cat or a former 99 type there. Very cheap cost also.

        • Big Mike

          Worked ok last year for the oline

          • tobijohn

            I had the exact same thought…

      • Big Mike

        And now I hope he turns into Tommie Harris

        • johnnywad

          You’re talking about post torn muscle Tommie, right?

          • Big Mike

            Not to be a dick, but yeah

          • johnnywad

            Me too.

  • NewBearInTown

    I was actually surprised that Peppers wasn’t designated post-June 1. The team’s cap right now would be the same, but we would get some relief (like $4.5M) after June 1. At a minimum, there’s your emergency fund for mid-season FAs.

    Now, if we want the cap in 2015 to be clean of dead money, don’t forget that we can carry over any unused cap space from 2014. So whatever space we clear with the post-June 1 designation and don’t use… we don’t lose either.

    I could understand if Emery didn’t trust himself not to spend the extra money, but really? I think Cliff and Phil are both more disciplined than that.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      I said the same thing yesterday. It makes no sense doing such a thing. You can have the money and not spent them. Just in case. But from what I understand, you can designate a post-June 1 cap hit at a latter date. PS: I see it as a sure thing they re-sign Marshall to a longer deal. You can use those post July money for that.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        When the season after next starts, Brandon will be 31. He already earns 9M a year. How much more can he want at that point in his career? With that hip ….

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          It’ s not about wanting more. It’s about getting THAT (or little less) for other 3-4 years. An extension. Another 3 years, 25 million to go along his 9 million from this year. Emery will do that contract before the year starts. I’d be stunned if he lets Marshall play his last year and test FA in a year. You can go big with the cap space numbers, so you’ll have space for Jeffery when his moment comes.

          • NewBearInTown

            Emery has actually shown himself to be remarkably patient when doing deals. He let Melton play under the tag. He waited until the off-season to sign Cutler and either of the starting Corners. And he let Forte hold out for an entire summer before getting the deal he wanted.

            Plus he let guys like Tillman and Lach test free agency to decide if they wanted to come back. One did, one didn’t, but the team hasn’t blinked.

            There’s a chance Marshall signs an extension before this season, but I could also see that deal getting done at the start of the off-season like it was with Cutler.

            There’s also a chance Emery is willing to let Marshall walk if he feels that Cutler is too zoned in on him. But I have a hard time believing that will happen. Forte, Jeffery and Marty are good enough to convince Cutler to spread the ball around.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            You must be out of your mind letting Marshall walk for ‘football reasons’. He is a beast and must remain a Bear. He is a leader on the field and off field. If you don’t resign him this off season you invite ‘distractions’. Everybody will try to rattle Marshall and he is your number one player spokesman….he does more interviews in 1 month than Tillman in 2 years. Tillman and Lach are different situations. Wayyy different.

  • NewBearInTown
    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      Melton just tweeted he’s a Cowboy

      • MB30SD

        fuck melton.

        • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

          lol, fuck’em

      • Melton elaborated, “I mean, when a bite someone now, I’ll get a smoky bbq aftertaste. That was a big sell.”

  • RenoBear

    Ok, I loved Earl just as much as everyone, great great hands, tough yards after catch, etc… But c’mon guys (Dave) he wasn’t infallible. It’s killing me I can’t remember which game it was but he cost us on a 4th down conversion on a potential game winning drive (help me out guys, what team were we playing?) this past year. He’s a good #3WR, but not irreplaceable. Others will step up… Bear Down fellss

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Saints game.

      • RenoBear

        Ok maybe there’s two game… Saints and I could’ve sworn one of them was way later in the season?

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Fucking bean-counter memory on you.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Yeah, I still marvel at that remarkable TD catch (of a great throw) against the Steelers in Pittsburgh last season when they really needed it but how much can you afford on your #3 wideout who will often only be your 4th or 5th option as a receiver?

      • Johnathan Wood

        rumor is he was gonna be #4 WR this year.

        They’ll be fine without him at full strength. My fear is what happens if Marshall or Jeffery go down for an extended period. Need Wilson to be ready, and Hixon ready to step up.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          The hands on Tolliver !! Hasn’t anyone seen the tape on this guy??? Six five to boot! Plus he doesn’t need to run around in the shower to get wet … like Mr. Wilson.

          • Johnathan Wood

            Toliver looks like an NFL WR but, to the best of my knowledge, has never played like one.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            He’ll get his chance bigtime if one of our two goes down with something serious. Love to see Chris Williams get a shot in the slot. Looks like a slippery little dude.

  • Mullet Man looks like the last rodeo clown who couldn’t be squeezed into the car (see what I did there?)

    He should sign with the Bears for vet min just to spite the rest of the NFCN.

    The Vikes for dumping him.
    The Pack for paying Peppers instead of him.
    The Lions because they have a fat lesbian for a QB.

    C’mon, Allen. Time to get petty, and I don’t mean Tom Petty.

    • tobijohn

      Do we have any clues as to what he wants money and years wise?

      • Word from Vinny was that he wanted a contract comparable to Ware-Pepp.

        I imagine a contract somewhere in the 3yeard-$30M range, which he is not going to receive.

        Teams saw the tape of him selling out to get sacks at the expense of run D. The gig is up.

        Seahawks will most likely only want to sign him on a 1yr deal, and other teams will view him more as a situational pass rusher, unlike Peppers or Ware.

    • EnderWiggin

      Seriously, Allen runnin’ down a dream in the North would be heartbreakers for the rest of ’em.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Never been a fan of Allen because of the ridiculous calf-ropin crap (and you all know I think ALL of those sack celebrations should be classified as taunting and rendered extinct and piss on you, Mark Gastineau, for starting it all) but I DO think he a viable option for the Bears.

      1) He’s Younger than Peppers

      2) I think he’s healthier than Peppers

      3) At this point, he’s gotta be cheaper than Peppers.

      This morning, NFL Radio guys were wondering out loud why Allen hasn’t garnered more interest.

      He did sound off about either only playing at a price HE considered worthy of his services or retiring.

      Maybe he’s asking too much.

      I agree with Ender that if he wants to stay in the NFC North, the Bears would seem to be HIS most viable option and with PPunch that nobody is interested in a 3 year deal and teams may now view him as a situational player.

      • NewBearInTown

        Allen probably has a short list of teams he’s willing to play for (contenders), and is trying to get something like Peppers’ $7.5M If he was willing to play for $2M, he’d have 32 teams looking to sign him. If he was willing to play everywhere, he’d get the $7.5M probably without an issue. Its the happy medium he’s looking for.
        But if he’s too patient, the market will pass him by.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        It was the film of him up a tree with a bow and arrow shooting deer that did it for me.

        I don’t see how we could afford him at this point anyway, when there’s a certain young man that could run amok for us much cheaper ….

        I think Emery is trying to (a) build a young roster … and then (b) build on that with each successive draft. He’s trying to build a dynasty rather than win popularity polls with the meatheads every season.

        Like Angelo should have done. The tool.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      He’ll end up a Bi-Queen.

  • Big Mike

    Melton gone to Dallas

    • tobijohn

      I wonder what his deal is…

  • tobijohn

    Interesting tweets from Biggsy: Melton was the last of the Bears draft class of 2009 and Wooten/Wright from 2010. Curious as to how many of JA’s picks are still with the Bears or even still in the NFL…

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Bears: Paea, Conte, Forte, Briggs, Steltz and Peanut are the only ones that are currently under contract, we’ll see what happens with Woot and Bowman who are the last two with any real shot to resign. Out of 82 picks in 10 years, only 6 remain.

      • tobijohn

        Wow, you had that down! I wonder how it compares to other teams over the same period of time…

        • Johnathan Wood

          not favorably, I can tell you that much.

    • NewBearInTown

      Briggs points out though that the Bears lost out not getting Melton on a long term deal last year. We paid him franchise tag money to sit in rehab and then got nothing for it with a comeback season.
      But Melton wanted too much money, you can’t get around that.

      • Big Mike

        I think the Bears won out not giving him a long term deal. Bears would have paid for pro-bowl level DT. Is he going to be as good as we has before he got hurt? Is his play still ascending as was the hope? Or is he Tommie Harris?

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    I’m pissed that we haven’t signed another DT, we got gashed up the middle after we ran out of competent DT’s and we are gonna go to bat with Donald (assuming he is the #14 pick), Ratliff, Collins and Paea???? It’s great to have DE’s that can stop the run but that doesnt matter if teams can stick it down your throat, we need another DT and if Melt just got $4MM we should be able to get Pat Sims for that much or cheaper, go get him Phil, even at the expense of Clemons (Sorry MB).

    • tobijohn

      How many years did he get?

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Rapoport is reporting 1 year with an option. I think I jumped the gun with the $4MM though.

        • tobijohn

          Jeez, I wonder what the Bears had offered him?

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            From what I read there was no offer, they told him to go out and find a price and come back.

          • tobijohn

            Now I wonder if he gave the Bears a chance to match it…

    • SC Dave

      btw, I posted some near numbers below on where the years game against us last year and while it is bad all over, it was decidedly worse to the strong side.

    • You must remember that both Izzy and Houston can also play inside. So really, we got Ratliff, Paea, Collins, Izzy and Houston as DTs (on top of whomever Emery drafts).

      I really believe the Bears are banking on Collins to progress, and if not, see above.

      • Johnathan Wood

        Yeah, they have 2 DE who can duck down and teams rarely keep more than 4 DTs. So if you draft a rookie, you then keep rookie + the three you mentioned. What’s the point in paying for a guy to cut him in camp?

        Last year was a fluke in that of their 4 DTs 1 quit day one of camp (Ellis), two out for season in first 5 weeks (Melton, Collins), and 1 in and out of lineup with turf toe (Paea). So their entire DT rotation was down at points, meaning they were starting a 265 pound DE (Wootton) and a guy signed off the streets (Cohen) mid-season, with an undrafted free agent rookie (Tupou) as the top backup.

        Houston and Idonije are both bigger and better able to hold up at DT if need be, but really nobody can prepare for losing their entire DT rotation.

        • Big Mike

          Can’t make the mistake of fighting the last war. Losing 4 DTs was an anomaly. I like the moves so far. I would like to point out that signing Melton is the type of move JA would have been persecuted for. (He’s an injury risk, He will never have the explosion, etc. etc)

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Then it smells like a DE coming. My guy is a DT that could play end, and Emery’s a smart guy who will pass on Jernigan and Hageman. What value n a guy who has the physical attributes to play any position on the line? That guy is under everyone’s radar because he was invisible his junior year and is skipping his senior. We may even get him in the second, after drafting say Pryor or Dix or a top CB … and if we do that we’re on our way to the draft squad of the year.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      El Drafto, hermano. El Drafto.

      The FA stuff seems like the application of make-up, the draft will be the boob-job.

      • MB30SD

        Yay boobs jobs!!!

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      My dream signing is not Melton. My dream signing is Kevin Williams. KEVIN WILLIAMS is a beast. It would be a big time DT pairing with Ratliff. Resign Wootton also.Play Houston-Ratliff-Williams-Young on first down so you can stop the run. Maybe play nickel behind it like the Saints did. Then go with Houston or Wootton inside on 2nd or 3rd down and long.

  • Random music shit of the day.

    Amoobea Record’s in Hollywood is iconic. According to them, these are the hottest new albums coming out. So if you’re wondering, “What are these kids up to now a-days anyways?” Click on this link (the first video ought to clue you in). If you didn’t feel old before, now you will.

    http://www.amoeba.com/blog/2014/03/pst/12-albums-to-look-for-in-spring.html?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Post&utm_campaign=12SpringAlbums

    • NewBearInTown

      First few didn’t do much for me. First band was very forgettable. Second band hand good riff, lousy vocals. Third band started strong, but I was waiting for a hook that never came.
      Cloud Nothings is a little too punk for my taste, but I would listen to them again. Good “drown it out” music, when you just want to de-stress with a little sensory overload.
      Mac DeMarco was like the third band, but he had a solid hook. Nothing amazing, but I’d listen to him again as well.
      Off! was not worth the 4 minutes of video before the song started.
      EMA is just not a style I enjoy (kind of like Beck).
      The Faint sound great, though I don’t enjoy the intentional headache inducing distortion to start the track.
      The Mary Onettes also sound nice. Probably the best so far.
      Thee Oh Sees were a sound that I wanted to enjoy, but I just didn’t like it.
      Avey Tare’s Slasher Flicks reminds me of the Talking Heads, and they grew on me as the song progressed (and the vibrato on the vocals calmed down).
      And Coldplay sounds solid.
      Excluding Coldplay, who will get a lot of radio play and are clearly the best produced of the bunch, I’d probably go looking for more Cloud Nothings or Mary Onettes out of that group. But there’s nothing that I immediately want to listen to again from the first 11.

      • I am utterly surprised you even got passed the first video, NB, considering the free basing and homo-erotic grappling (NTTAWWT?). You sir, are full of surprises.

        I think I liked the Faint the best, and some of the distortions were ok. I sorta like bands experimenting (like the Beatles, NIN, etc).

        The punk vid was interesting, but I can’t listen to punk for very long.

        • NewBearInTown

          First video was terrible, I got about 90 seconds in, and that was because I was reading down before I turned them off.

          • I never heard of “southern scuzz rock”. Maybe Artoo or Ender could fill us in on that – in an odd way, they remind me of Primus. Their style, more than their sound, but they’re edgier.

        • NewBearInTown

          Speaking of bad videos, the Faint’s video was an interesting concept, but visually gave me a headache. They’ve got a solid foundation, but whoever is producing their finished product (visually and musically) is just too into the piercing sounds. Wouldn’t be surprised to see members of that band do well on other projects.

          • I listened to them before, and they were a bit more electro-pop if I remember correctly. I guess they’re trying to do new stuff.

      • NewBearInTown

        Edit: Upon finishing the War on Drugs (third band), I can get behind them. A little Springsteen, a little Kings of Leon, but they do need to build in a stronger hook.

      • Cormonster

        NBIT, check out the band Lake Street Dive. Top five new band for me in the last five years. Seen them last summer and they are the real deal. I know Irish loves them and Canada liked a couple songs.

        http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=nCHiB1IymBQ

        My links haven’t been working. Just you tube them on Letterman or check out a few songs.

        • I actually heard them today on youtube on some live Seattle program or something. She’s talented, and hot.

          Boy, your youtube links really are whacked Corm. Did you piss off the NSA or something?

          • Cormonster

            Not sure what happened with my links, and it’s starting to piss me off.

            KEXP in Seattle has tons of great bands and videos on YouTube. I originally got hooked by Rachael Price’s voice about two years ago, but the rest of the band is sneaky good. I’ve had many days where I woke up with one of their songs in my head. It’s not the type of music I normally listen to, but at least one of their albums has stayed in my 6 CD changer in my car for well over a year.

            BTW, I met the band last summer after a wonderful show in a Madison park. Rachael is hot! She is a petite young lady who looked like she was transported from the 50’s. Her summer dress and shoes were totally retro. Her hair style was from wearing rollers, and she had bright red lipstick. It was a totally sexy look.

        • NewBearInTown

          I heard about them a few weeks ago, listened to everything I could find online. Awesome sound.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          LSD’s “I want you back” is still the intro video on my YT channel. She has a great voice.

          True story. I realized I had 33 subscribers .. so naturally assumed it was family etc. I only posted vids on there for my mom, so that she could see her grandkids grow up half the world away. I guess there was a few of the twins naked around the water etc. so they wouldn’t have been three yet. Anyway, I decided to check out who these subscribers were one day – it’s not too obvious how to check who they are – and these subscribers are NOT familly/friends. This one subscriber jumps out at me … I kid you not, his channel name was ‘Israeli pedophile’, like he’s proud of it!

          Oh what a wonderful world.

  • MB30SD

    random movie shit of the day.

    Grand Budapest Hotel anyone?

    New Wes Anderson. Booyah!

    • NewBearInTown

      Looks funny. Thinking about taking the wife for a date night. There haven’t too many good date movies as of late.

      • MB30SD

        I think it’ll be a winner NB. I want to see it this weekend as well. And as usual, the cast is amazing.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Ah, I’ve heard of this. Must watch. Also the new Jim Jarmusch movie … Only Lovers Left Alive. He’s the dude that did Broken Flowers (Bill Murray and that Ethiopian Jazz track). He makes a movie about every five years.

      Just watch Eyes Wide Shut again for the Nth time. The layers in that movie! Was his wife (Kidman) somehow drugged and brought to that party at the house? Was she really there and fucked by everybody? She didn’t just dream it, but she was actually there?

      Aside: The far-out mansion shots were filmed in Nathan Rothschild’s gaff near London. Kubrick died suddenly five days after he showed his cut of the film to Warner execs. There were heavy cuts to the movie before it was released months after his death. Apparently the full movie has been released on DVD. Anyone seen that version? Were there satanic scenes filmed in the mansion?

  • AlbertInTucson

    Allen visited the Cowboys today. Plans to visit Seattle.

  • Trac

    After reading Dave and Waffle’s comments, let me say this. Dave, Cutty is here to stay, get over it. Can’t believe I’m saying that because I hate it when my wife says tells me to get over it when I’m miffed about something. lol. We could not afford Peppers, period. Trestman is the new GM and he will build HIS team. Like it or not, new GM’s want their guys, their plan, their vision. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, we are in rebuild mode. The offense is almost finished, it’s the defenses turn to be addressed. This year may not produce a playoff team but next year probably will. At least I hope so.

    Wait until after the draft and then we will have a much clearer picture.

    • johnnywad

      Yeah but Cutty drowns puppies when he’s not beating up homeless dudes. Did you think about that?

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Nothing wrong with beating up homeless dudes, Johnny. What are you, a hippy?!

        • johnnywad

          Its like exercise

        • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

          classic.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Damn, we fired Emery already?

  • CanadaBear

    Don’t get the Pep love. I read two different pieces about Pep. One said the Bears brass didn’t think he put in the effort last year and another where scouts were quoted saying he only went all out on about 8-10 plays/game last year. He literally didn’t show up on the stat sheet in 5-6 games. When you can’t even get an assist on a tackle in 5-6 games you really aren’t putting forth the effort. I have no doubt he will bring it against the Bears next year. That sucks for us but if he mails in half his games for the Fudgies next year, that will suck for them. The Bears brass didn’t even try to get him to reduce his contract. Pretty much the same deal with Melt.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      It’s the 8/10 plays he puts up twice a year against Cutty I’m worried about

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Emery could still get things done in FA. At DT my man would be Kevin Williams. At DE Correy Wootton. At S there are Cris Clemons or Steve Gregory. I’d love myself a Kevin Williams-Cris Clemons pairing to go along with the best FS in the draft at 14. PS: I don’t get why they refused the 4 mil in Peppers dead money. Now that’s a pussy move.

    • CanadaBear

      I think they are trying to make next season’s cap as clean as possible since they will have to re-sign Brandon and Alshon. Not sure who else is up next year. I’m guessing they don’t think some of the guys that are left are worth the money so they aren’t going to create the room. Cutler’s guarantee can be spread out if they want more room.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Brandon is due to resign this year. Letting him play a contract year is bad for him and bad for the Bears. I don’t get the idea ‘let’s make next season’s cap as clean as possible’. What’s the reasoning behind it ? If I can do deals this year why do it next year? You don’t know what the market will be next year! The only sure thing is that it will not get cheaper because the cap in going up, again. Plus it’s always a bad thing when you resign 2 starters at the same position, at the same time…. even if Jeffery is a different situation…he has 2 years left and there is the franchise tag option for another year(basically you can have him for the next 3 years for 15 million).

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          I guess they’re waiting to see if Marshall breaks his leg this season. Something like that. Don’t pony up unless you have to ,… the wait and see approach.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Thats’ just awful. Nobody thinks like that. If there’s a guy with an impressive health track record and production that’s Brandon Marshall.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        The only ones that are ‘up’ next year are Marshall, Briggs and Tillman again. Marshall is the only one on O. On the D side the players signed for more than 1 year are Houston-Jennings-Young-Ratliff-Bostic-Mundy-Green-Frey-McClellin-Bass.

      • Johnathan Wood

        even if you factor in $10M a year each for Jeffery and Marshall and the next two rookie classes, Bears will be about $35M under the cap for 2015. Only players who might be worth re-signing for more than vet. min. are Collins, Paea, Conte, Williams.

        I will be shocked if Briggs is back after next year, and Tillman could retire depending on how this year goes. Garza will also retire. So they will have some holes to fill but plenty of $$ to work with. Emery can use this year to figure out what young guys are starters for 2015, and probably find three Lamarr Houston-level players in FA to help fill out the D.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Wow. We pay the Beastly brothers 10M each and STILL have 35M left? Really?

          • Johnathan Wood

            yep. I’m factoring that in as a high-end. Likely combined year 1 cap hits will be much lower than that. Just saying they will be able to hand out sizable extensions to both of them and still have a lot of $$.

            Could see Emery front-load one or both of their deals too. No bad contracts going forward after this year. Nice.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Jeffery can’t get $10M a year. He has no leverage. The Bears can pay him $15M for 3 years if they use the franchise tag at the end of the contract. And Marshall has $9M a year now. He will not get more money at 31. I don’t think he wants more.

          • Johnathan Wood

            Cap going up, inflation of deals. Look at recent top WR deals handed out. Marshall will be looking for $12M+ a year.

            Remember his last contract was over $10M a year, it’s just the signing bonus stayed with Miami after traded. If that same contract would have been signed with the Bears his cap hit would have been over $10M all 3 years in CHI.

            As for Jeffery, if he has 1400+ yards again this year he will command a hefty deal. Market would say $13-14M a year (Percy Harvin and Mike Wallace got $12M per, Jeffery better than that statistically if he has another year like this year), so $10M would be using Bears leverage to drive that down. Down year this year could drive that price down though.

            I’m not saying these will be exact terms. Just saying they can give huge extensions-throwing out nice big round numbers to indicate that-without it hurting them at all.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            If Jeffery wants 12 mln a year and the Bears can have 3 years of Jeffery for 15 million or 4 years for 30 million…. he can’t demand 12 million. He does not have the leverage. Usually things get done at the average. So if he wants 12 and the Bers can pay 7, you’ll sign him for 8-9 million is you resign him into his last contract year. That’s how they do it in the NFL. If you don’t have leverage and want a big contract as soon as possible you’ll have to accept less money. That way you can hit FA at 29-30. Jeffery would be 25 if he signs a 5 year deal next year. At 30 he’ll hit FA again and make another big contract. PS: Brandon Marshall doesn’t want 12+ million from the Bears. That would be shocking.

      • SC Dave

        Alshon does not become a free agent until 2016, so they could wait another year. I would not recommend it, but they waited with Forte…

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          They waited with Forte because Forte had issues with the money and shit. It was his first important contract. I don’t think Brandon has such problems at the moment. I think he wants to win as a Bear where he in happy. It’s different. Also… the RB are dispensable so you can risk losing Forte. You can’t risk a 1000+ big time WR.

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