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Audibles From the Long Snapper: Emery Interview Tactics, Mills to Guard, Stats!

| November 5th, 2014

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PHIL EMERY DID WHAT?

Bruce Arians is a cool guy, a terrific hat wearer and his personality would have been a perfect match for the city of Chicago. (Look at how “beer and a shot Maddon” was universally beloved by Chicago media Monday.) To assume, however, that his not being hired by Phil Emery was some kind of administrative debacle is second-guessing of the worst kind. Yes, Arians won Coach of the Year. But he won that award less because of his work and more because his head coach that season was sidelined due to intense cancer treatments and he was put in charge of Andrew Luck. You know who else is going to win a lot of games as a head coach of Andrew Luck? Every single head coach with the luxury of having Andrew Luck as his quarterback.

Bruce Arians would not be any guarantee to make Cutler and this offense better. And his defensive coordinator of choice, Todd Bowles, would be no more successful with this absence of defensive talent.

Less his final decision, Emery’s approach to hiring the head coach has come under scrutiny recently and seems to have been something of a masterclass in weirdness. Think that’s too harsh? Let’s look at the two major elements revealed in various reports:

  • Arians was asked to do a mock press conference less than a month removed from doing multiple press conferences almost every single week of the 2012 season. I can understand a general manager wanting to evaluate the media savvy of a potential big market head coach but it wouldn’t take longer than nineteen seconds with Arians to understand he’d be just fine.
  • Arians is quoted as stating it was “awkward” being told he’d need to keep certain assistant coaches (including Rod Marinelli, who didn’t stay) and said in no uncertain terms it was not going to happen. Why would Emery insist on a head coach keeping a defensive coordinator who had yet to commit to the organization for the following season? Maybe before telling Bruce that Rod would be his defensive coordinator he should have asked Rod? The whole thing is, just, weird.

Also, was Marc Trestman so desperate to be an NFL head coach he would have accepted any terms? Does a man so desperate for his shot have it in his system to take over the leadership of a locker room?

JORDAN MILLS TO LEFT GUARD

Nobody could argue Mills has been productive and the move inside to left guard can not be seen as anything other than a demotion for last season’s sixteen-game starter at right tackle. But Bears fans should be hoping Mills finds a home inside and thrives as one of the anchors of the rushing attack. If Mills plays well the Bears will have the guard position under control (and under cheap control) for the next several years.

The pressure is on Michael Ola, now thrust into the pivotal role of blocking Julius Peppers and company in primetime with his offense under siege from the local media. Ola will be walking across the skyline without a net. Eben Britton will be unable to provide insurance as he is week-to-week, recovering from am appendectomy. The more Ola is mentioned Sunday night, the more lopsided the score is in the Packers favor.

EBEN BRITTON INTO LOCAL HALL OF FAME

Tim Berger Staff Photographer / October 31, 2014

Tim Berger Staff Photographer / October 31, 2014

Here is a majority of a piece written by Andrew J. Campa for the Burbank Leader:

Eben Britton and Jay Gudzin were inducted into the John Burroughs High Hall of Fame, joining an already illustrious group that includes community icons, Olympians and professional athletes.

The pair was formally recognized in a private ceremony in the school’s gym and then introduced to the home crowd before the start of Friday evening’s Pacific League contest pitting visiting Glendale and Burroughs.

“It’s just such a huge honor to be back here, to walk through the halls of this school, to see people who were teaching here when I was here,” Britton said. “This was just touching and special. The nostalgia and love I have for this place, I feel all that.”

Britton returned to Burroughs as one of its highest-profile athletes, as the 27-year-old is in his sixth year in the NFL and second as an offensive lineman with the Chicago Bears.

The timing of this year’s hall of fame ceremony was more than serendipitous for Burroughs and Britton as presenter Terry Scott made that known.

“You might think this just happened to take place this week, but the plan was to see if we could line this up for Eben’s bye week,” Scott said in reference to the Chicago Bears’ week off.

“While most guys would have their feet up, Eben decided to come back home and be with us.”

Britton was joined by his wife and daughter along with an assembly of extended family members, many whom wore red Britton No. 77 jerseys, his number at Burroughs.

“My experience at Burroughs is so fundamental to who I am,” Britton said. “Everything I learned from coach [Keith] Knoop and coach [Mike] Reily. I know it’s a small compliment, but everything I am as an offensive lineman can be attributed to them.”

Britton surprised the Burroughs locker room and gave a pre-game speech, much to the appreciation of Knoop.

“The fact that he came back, he came into the locker room and talked to the guys before the game, that was really special,” Knoop said. “He really understands where his roots are and where he got his foundation in football. I was really glad to have him here.”

Britton was a three-year varsity starter in football and graduated in 2005 after earning All-Area, All-CIF and All-Foothill League honors as a two-way player. Britton also holds the school discus record of 160 feet, 6 inches.

From high school, Britton stared at the University of Arizona before being drafted by the Jacksonville Jaguars in 2009 and spending four years there before eventually joining the Bears in 2013.

“While this is a big night for the alumni inducted, it’s also means a lot to the coaches here,” said Burroughs co-athletic director Marty Garrison. “To have Terry Scott here to induct them too, it was a great night.”

Makes it easy to enjoy Britton’s tenure in Chicago.

YOU WANT STATISTICS? HERE THEY ARE!

  • Only 7 quarterbacks currently have a better TD-INT ration than Jay Cutler’s +9.
  • Only 5 quarterbacks have been sacked more times than Cutler’s 20.
  • Jay Cutler and Aaron Rodgers both average 262 yards per game.
  • The Bears don’t have a receiver in the top 17…top 17…in yardage. Packers have two. The Bears have Brandon Marshall and Alshon Jeffery on their roster.
  • Bears defense is 21st in yards per game and 29th in points per game. (But the defense has actually be saddled with short yards field too often.)
  • Bears offense is 13th in yards per game and 19th in points per game. (But the Bears have struggled to score when they are NOT on short fields.)

SCOTT WRIGHT PODCAST ADDENDUM

After recording this incredibly informative draft podcast with Scott Wright I spent some time watching YouTube videos of those mentioned. I must have watched this hit from Landon Collins ten times. Bears fans will be desperate for Collins this spring.

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  • Shady

    First to say… Fuck the Packers.

  • Trac

    That Landon Collins is too violent Jeff. He’ll never make it in the NFL.

    • Bears-4-Ever

      The way the refs are flag happy these days that hit would have drawn a defenseless receiver penalty no matter how clean.

  • johnnywad

    Stats 1,3, and 4 confuse me deeply

    • BerwynBomber

      QBR or QR is probably a better rating for QBs than selectively picking out favorable stats (or unfavorable stats) and I kinda remember Blogfather pimping Cutty before the first Cheese game. I could see Jay having a big game against the Pack. Lord knows he’s due.

    • NewBearInTown

      Cutler’s numbers are padded a bit because Forte has been an absolute monster this year. Likewise Marty. Our top two receivers are not accounting for as much offense as we had hoped, but I don’t view that as our biggest problem on offense. Our biggest problem on offense is that the four players I’ve just mentioned are the only weapons Cutler or Trestman seems to care about.

      • BerwynBomber

        My theory is that “ball security” has been so drilled into Cutler by the coaching staff, media, fans, etc., that it has led to all the conservative dump-offs to Forte. Again, just a theory but I’m sticking to it.

        • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

          Bomber, not true my man. Cutler has used the fuck out of Forte ever since he’s been with the team no matter what system they were in….because Forte is a dangerous weapon.
          There have been a handful of 3rd down dump offs that were well short of a first down because the last thing they needed was turning the ball over on their own 35.
          It’s not like Cutler can just take a 10 step drop on every 3rd and 15 and bomb it up to Alshon to try to get a PI call. The protection would give up that sack 7 out of 10 times…and fumbles could result, then you guys would be bitching even more.
          Like I said before. 2 INT’s and this season is much different. All of this trade talk, club implosion talk, coaching change talk, heart talk, is bullshit.

          In my humblest of opinions.

          • BerwynBomber

            Waffle with a humble opinion on Jay? I don’t believe it. Kidding aside, you and I disagree about Cutty, but at the same time I attempt to be fair in assessing him. In terms of the Forte dump-offs, that wasn’t really an indictment of Cutty himself but of all the voices he is hearing (and i agree Forte has always been valuable safety valve).

            I said last week that the attempt (or hope) to turn Cutler into Peyton/Brady/Rodgers (highly productive guys with excellent ball security) is a mistake. A better template for Jay would be something along the lines of Favre/Brees/Luck — highly productive dudes whose TOs their teams, by and large, live with because of the high production. In other words, if Jay was on pace or 38 or 40 TDs and the O was clicking then the 12 TOs (right now) wouldn’t look as bad.

  • wreckinball

    Rumor has it Arians wasn’t excited about having Cutler at QB

    • He chose an old inj-prone Palmer instead.
      That ought to say something.

      • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

        I am about 102% sure that was not any of the top 20 reasons why Arians “chose” to not get hired by the Bears.

        • wreckinball

          So you know Bruce because that would be the only way to get to 102% certainty

          • Donnnnn’t Caaaaarrrrrre!

            Hi TJ!

            Let’s agree that Arians didn’t take the AZ job because Carson Palmer was the quarterback.

      • wreckinball

        I Agree not a big Palmer can but he’s playing well and they are 7-1 .

        Guess he chose right. It’s a rumor but of course I didn’t make it up. I think I heard the rumor on Sirius NFL but it could have been Mad Dog

        Cutler is a negative outside the blog here. I know you guys hate it but it’s the truth

  • BerwynBomber

    Fans seem very afraid of interceptions. You know who isn’t? The league MVP this year. Andy Luck.
    @DBB

    When your passing offense has that type of productivity and you are winning games Luck’s 9 INTs are, for now, mitigated.

  • TheBigCheesy

    Stats:

    Jay Cutler: 1
    Green Bay Packers: 10

    • beninnorcal

      Actually looked at his stats for this season and he and your boyfriend Rodgers #’s are nearly identical.

      • TheBigCheesy

        Rodgers’ passer rating is nearly 20 points higher, you muppet.

        • beninnorcal

          Fuck you.

          • TheBigCheesy

            thank you ma’am may I have another?

          • beninnorcal

            Fuck you, all day, with a lawn chair, sideways. Fuck you

        • BillW

          Passer rating is a flawed stat. Here is proof:
          Two identical 10 play TD drives of 80 yards;
          60 yards from 4-6 completions
          20 yards from 4 rushes.

          Drive 1 finished with a run for a TD
          Drive 2 finished with a TD pass.

          Again – same number of plays; SAME PASSING STATS; same result but from a different order of plays.

          Drive 1 passer rating – 99.31
          Drive 2 passer rating – 138.89

          40 more points???

          It’s a flawed stat. The goal is to SCORE.

          • TheBigCheesy

            passer rating is a composite statistic of all the other passing statistics.
            Passer rating is as flawed as all the other statistics are. However, statistics are what we’re talking about here, aren’t we?

            The genius above said that Rodgers and Cutler have nearly identical statistics. Now how can that possibly be if their passer ratings are so much different?

            My comment had nothing to do with the legitimacy of the statistic itself.

            However, you wanna look at a more subjective statistic, QBR? Rodgers is 81.6 and Jay is at 62.4.

          • BillW

            I’m not trying to say Cutler = Rodgers. I’m not stupid.

            In fact, I contend there is NO good QB stat out there. Other than W/L that is.

          • BerwynBomber

            I would contend that QR and QBR are pretty accurate/indicative 85% even 90% of the time but there are games they miss and even miss wildly. I brought up an example of it last week concerning QR between Cutler and Stafford and their respective games, though QBR got it right. But I’ve seen it work the other way too.

          • BillW

            Yeah – I thought it had promise until I saw it rating Tebow higher than Manning or Brady or someone.

          • BillW

            I think Jeff and others are just trying to say that Cutler isn’t as bad as so many make him out to be. That many of his stats are comparable to those considered top in the game.

            But as a Bear fan, I’ve grown tired of that. OK – he’s the “tallest midget” (best Bear’s QB in a decades) – that’s not getting us to the playoffs.

            (And apologies if anyone took offense to the term “midget”.)

    • beninnorcal

      I’ve never been to or commented on any Packer blog. I always wonder exactly what this does for you. Bears don’t look so hot this year but I still say fuck you and your packers anyway.

      • TheBigCheesy

        I’m sure there’s nothing you do that I haven’t done and therefore would make me wonder what it does for you. What a luxury!

        • beninnorcal

          Wow, you seem to know so much about me in our limited internet interactions. Again, fuck you.

      • BillW

        As a Packer fan (who may live in the Chicago area?) I can only assume what he gets out if it is the “pleasure” of seeing Bear fans so dominated by the Packers that all we can say to him is “F-you”. Not “let’s see what happens Sunday” or see you in the playoffs” or anything resembling that.

        I don’t curse strongly very often. I don’t type it out even. But as I left the NFC Championship game against GB, and Packer fan was laughing – I let out a big F-you to him that shocked the hell out of my younger son. “Only to an a-hole Cheesehead would I do that” I explained. He understood.

        And yes – Cheesy can be as annoying as hell. Wanny never got how much it killed Bears fans to lose to the Packers. If Sunday goes like the last Packer game, Trestman is really going to find out.

        My Uncle gave me words I always remember –
        Hate the Packers but respect the rivalry.

        Cheesy – it works both ways.

    • GPLDAN

      You know what sucks about your existence?

      The guys left here on the blog are the true bloods. The guys who love football, and want better things for this club. We’re harder on this team than you could ever be. We’re standing around, pissed about this club all the way to the top, and you just keep on taking the piss out.

      Whatever pleasure you draw from being a Simpson’s Nelson with your “ha-ha”, is really muted by the fact everyone here really – truly – despises you.

      • TheBigCheesy

        Ok. I’ll take the mickey and leave the piss for you, then. How ’bout that?

      • TheBigCheesy

        p.s. i still love you

      • You’re the reason he’s here, GP. He can’t quit you!
        How is that for irony

        • GPLDAN

          I’d like to throw some hot irony right at his head.

      • BerwynBomber

        Cheesy can offer decent opinion/insights on stuff but the Cutler GB record is troll-ish/unnecessary.

        • TheBigCheesy

          I have to throw those in routinely because in my heart of hearts, I am a troll. God forbid anyone would ever forget that….

  • TheBigCheesy

    And his defensive coordinator of choice, Todd Bowles, would be no more successful with this absence of defensive talent

    I don’t know much about it so I can’t say I agree, but I have heard a lot of people talk about how Bowles doesn’t actually have a ton to work with because of all the injuries. I’ve heard he’s just been sending the house on the reg to generate pressure.

  • Bears kick the tires on LeShoure.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/04/report-bears-work-out-mikel-leshoure/

    Hey, they finally want a short yard HB! Hurray! what forward visionary thinking. What genius insight. Tessla has nothing on this brain trust! I bow before their ethereal magnificence….

    • Peanut FTW

      I wonder if they are thinking of him in a FB type role. With our FB gone and now our blocking TE out, that nearly forces Rosario up to a conventional spot. We could use an actual FB type player IMO and I wonder if they think he may fit the mold. And he would be a change of pace back like you mention.

  • “Eben Britton will be unable to provide insurance”.
    I guess the Bears never heard of a blocking TE, eh? They like those bullshit hybrid H backs.
    How’s that working out, Einsteins?

    • to be fair, they did try brandon maleulamualuglauflidfjamaluga.

      • BillW

        That’s easy for you to say.

  • #984 No safeties in the top 10, esp from Alabama.
    #25 Don’t drink wine after shots
    #12 Don’t date girls who sport “princess” stickers on their cars.

    – Butch, rule of thumbs.

  • SC Dave
  • Big Mike

    Win – season saved and we can carry on as hoped. Lose.. long season without much passion and next to zero expectations. Playing for pride.. blah blah all the shit losers say.

  • Trac

    If we beat down the Cheese like the one I witnessed last night then I’m good for the rest of the season. Hee hee.

  • GPLDAN

    You know how Agent Cooper in Twin Peaks was a little creepy. So straight laced, talking into his pocket recorder to a mysterious Diane, always commenting on how pie tasted?

    I get the feeling that Phil Emery is a little like that. A little creepy weird in a ultra straight laced way. Making Arians do a mock presser is just laughable.

    The other thing to recall from those days was how MANY people he interviewed. Hub joked on the Score that Emery interviewed his garbage collector. He must have done 30+ interviews. Which, in the NFL world, is insane. He was travelling all over, meeting with people like that strange FBI investigator looking for his Laura Palmer. Or Jordan Palmer.

    There was a reason this weirdo was a Strength & Conditioning coach into his 30s. And that the rumors are that nobody listened to him when he was leading scouting at the Chiefs. Leave it to Ted Phillips, the guy who only knows his CPA exams and has never managed anything, to hire Glitchy and then bring us this creeper. Who has proceeded to hire a desperate never-was from the Canadian ranks, because the Cryptkeeper is the only one weird enough to get on with Agent Cooper.

    • TheBigCheesy

      I’ve heard great things about twin peaks. Is it as good as advertised?

      • GPLDAN

        It’s coming back for a new season, so you will be able to find out yourself.

        I found it boring. It was, deep down, a treatise on Indian mysticism disguised as a thriller. In the same way The Shining is actually a metaphor for the slaughter of the American Indian.

        There were too many characters, and in the end, only 3-4 actually mattered. I hate shows that do that, just add random characters as red herrings, as if they matter to the plot.

      • SC Dave

        It was odd and barely understandable. But despite that, I kinda liked it. Probably influenced shows like Lost.

      • It’s good if you like off-beat stuff.
        Hollywood gets so formulaic, that it’s refreshing when something is non-linear and maybe confusing as fuck.
        All these “non-linear” experiments like “Pulp Fiction”, “Memento”, etc I would say were influenced by Twin Peaks and Lynch.

    • Trac

      I think a lot of people at the time tried explaining that away as Emery trying to learn as much as he could during the hiring process. The phony presser is troubling. That’s just plain creepy.

      • GPLDAN

        You should go look at the source material Jeff drew that from. Arians talks about interviewing with the Bears like he visited the Addams Family.

        And Arians goes on to be wildly successful, as is McCoy with the Chargers (another finalist who won’t discuss his talk with the Bears) and they become the top of the NFL pyramid, and what are they going to say to all their disciples?

        “Avoid Chicago. The place is weird. Emery is a bonehead.”

        We all know that’s what they think. How could they not? Emery needs to go, Phillips needs to go. The bloodletting will stop with Trestman if they collapse during this 8 game divisional run. And if they even make it to 4-4 over the next 8, Trestman will probably get another year because they know that nobody good will talk to them until change comes farther up the organization.

        So frustrating.

        • Trac

          Mike Tomlin, haurbaugh, McCoy and O’Brian were new Generation coaching hires. Why can’t a great town like Chicago see that they have to break the mold of stale fuddy duddy GMs and coaches? It’s very disappointing.

          • Momma Harbaugh

            Harbughs are fucking tools.

        • BillW

          I was willing to give Emery the benefit of the doubt in my “doom and gloom” outlook that proved to be accurate. These stories have now changed my mind.

          But I do think it comes from above Teddy even. Not directly but by influence.

          • GPLDAN

            Hub disagrees.

            Not that Hub is the gospel, but I believe him when he said the family gave Ted 100% control on who to hire to replace Glitchy.

            Emery is 100% Ted’s boy.

          • BillW

            No matter if I’m right or not – Teddy does have to own it as you say. And George has to now “own” Teddy – who so obviously is not a football man.

  • GPLDAN

    Jefe –

    While I appreciate your advance scouting of hard hitting Crimson Tide DBs – I find it depressing that we are scouting the 2015 NFL Draft when we haven’t even hit our divisional run.

    Please tone down the scouting for next year. Let’s go back to focusing on keys to winning the next game, etc. It’s like stopping by the puppy mill to pick out puppies you like, while your faithful Golden Lab is in the back seat dying, and you’re taking him to the vet to put him down.

    Just seems wrong.

    • Trac

      I think what you’re seeing is the difference between a home grown fan vs pick a team, any team. I get why Jeff lost interest and I agree with you as well. Still, it’s way too early to be talking draft.

      • BillW

        I agree too. I can’t get excited about any particular college players unless we were headed for a top 3 pick and had a great need and knew we’d be able to fill it that way.

        I get Jeff saying “watch these guys in actually games – not highlight clips that of course will only be positive”. But there are too many guys and too many ways things will fall. I’m not a scout – I have no way to judge.

        • CanadaBear

          There are a lot of posters that love the draft and all that includes. Personally I don’t watch college ball, don’t care and don’t follow any of that BS until they are on the roster.

  • GPLDAN

    ONLY Trestman was handed a winning club in the year he was swept in – a year that saw wholesale changes. ONLY Trestman is now under .500

    http://www.chicagofootball.com/2014/11/05/hub-arkush-chicago-bears-coach-marc-trestman-scores-poor-midterm-grade/awwfype/#

    • TheBigCheesy

      i think the jags coach came in the same year. But yeah, the jags coach is the only one trestman is ahead of in winning pct

  • GPLDAN

    Rich Campbell on the Score today said the knock on Khaseem Greene is that he’s soft.

    I guess he came in a little flabby, and he gasses out quickly. The team is very angry with him because his conditioning sucks. So that was news to me.

    • CanadaBear

      And I thought he just sucked. Turns out he’s lazy, undisciplined and he sucks.

    • CanadaBear

      It will be interesting to see if PE can part with Greene at the end of the season. If he’s on the roster next year with no improvement it tells you all you need to know about PE’s ego.

  • CanadaBear

    Here’s my issue with PE’s picks; everyone says they are rookies, at new positions, in a new org, etc. give them time to develop. That makes sense and you try to give them the benefit of the doubt. However, how many great plays do any of these guys make? About as close to zero as you get. I understand guys don’t normally come into the league and blow it up (other than the great ones) but the good ones all make plays and some impact plays thrown in for good measure. Our guys, almost nothing. What that tells me is in a few years if they keep progressing they will become journeymen NFL’ers at best. Whoopee!

    • Canada, and all other PE critics (and I don’t disagree with many points), the most difficult position to fill in all of football is GM. Did you watch the G-men get destroyed on MN?
      That’s a team that won 2 SBs, and is generally considered to have one of the best GMs in the league (a GM we would have all died for if he were available at the time).
      Yet, the Gmen suck almost as much as we do this year.
      Look at the 9ers. Again, with a bevy of draft picks, a solid HC and again, a consceus quality GM, still only have 1 more victory than us (not to mention that they lost to us at home).

      Every fan base is pretty critical of the GM (even Pat fans) because it’s like batting. It’s a position that fails more often than not.

      And like I stated previously, there’s no “slam dunk” GMs mulling around. There’s no “Andrew Luck” of GMs growing off the tree (as Angelo would say). The next GM we would hire would be as much of a gamble as PE.

      The first year was with Lovie, and I’m with MB that PEs draft was very influenced by that coaching staff (that’s how it works in the NFL, unless you’re Jerry Jones).

      The later drafts haven’t been as awful, relatively speaking. Plus, PE has at least recognized the issues and aggressively tried to solve them, with mixed results (Bushrod, Bmarsh, Slauson, Young, etc good, Allen, etc perhaps bad).

      I say we give him for sure next season before we can start debating giving him da boot.

      • BillW

        Your reasoning is more than sound, which is why I gave him a pass. But picking a coach might be more important than the players. That can be argued of course – but a bad pick can be negated with a better one in the same draft. You have only ONE head coach – better get it right or at least not blatantly wrong.

        Lovie was more successful than Trestman. Lovie got another chance too. I’m glad Lovie is gone. no pride in being a better failure than someone else. But Trestman is done as a HC in the NFL,I’m sure he’s cerebral enough to know it, and it’s on Emery.

      • CanadaBear

        I’m not advocating he get the boot just trying to point out he hasn’t been all that either. Other than Long, Jeffery and Fuller, is there anybody he has picked in the draft that has been something other than just a guy? Maybe the new DT’s get there but so far just a few flashes (very few). Young was a good signing. Houston is over paid and Allen has been close to worthless. His roster building has been atrocious. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get he had all these holes to fill left by JA but after 3 fucking years people are still clinging to that excuse. Hell, I used the JA excuse to make an argument that Lovie was a good HC. After 3 fucking years of him at the helm we are exponentially worse than when he arrived.

        • BillW

          Today’s football blog is brought to you by the letter lamda:

          A quantity is subject to exponential decay if it decreases at a rate proportional to its current value. Symbolically, this process can be expressed by the following differential equation, where N is the quantity and λ (lambda) is a positive rate called the exponential decay constant:

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_decay

          • GPLDAN

            So glad to see you didn’t spend 4 years in Hyde Park for nothing.

          • BillW

            Actually only 1. I did my undergrad at a tiny Catholic university.

    • SC Dave

      Fuller has already made several. Sutton and Ego have not been on the field all that much, so I’ll wait for a few more games.

  • wreckinball

    Agree focus on beating the Cheese not the draft
    Figure out a way to at least make GB punt a few times and get the O moving

    • We know how to beat the Cheese. It’s not rocket science.
      Throw out the Ds cuz they both suck donkey balls. Specials are always interesting in these games, but really, we all know the formula:
      Cutler has to outduel Vadgers.

      Cutler might be good for a quarter or two, but it’s nearly inevitable that he’ll crash somewhere along the way.

      I hold to my previous analogy. It’s like Cutler and Rodgers on the free throw line.
      Cutler will make about 7 out of 10, some coming dangerously close to rimming out, and maybe a few off the backboard.
      Meanwhile, Rodgers is swishing 10 for 10 like Stockton.

      Or as my other analogy. Cutler is Matisse, but Vadgers is Picasso.

      Whether Cuter can do anything about it, if it’s his fault, or the gods, is nearly irrelevant. It is what it is.

      It’s Cutler’s bad fortune that his biggest rival also happens to be one of the best, if not the best, at his position, which is kinda like being related to Einstein. You can still be very smart, you’re just not Einstein and the comparisons will never stop making you feel inferior.

      • BillW

        And it may seem like Cutler’s defense mechanism makes him not care – and therefore he becomes careless. Literally.

      • GPLDAN

        But with Houston out, who will the Bears start as the down 4?

        Young – Ratliff – Paea – Allen probably

        Then you have Ego rotating in, and they brought Bass back to spell Young and Allen. I mean, if we can’t at least make Rodgers move, then the game may not as well be played, because our corners can’t hang with Nelson and Co.

        • Without some semblance of pressure, it’ll be a blow-out.
          That puts the onus on Cutler, and makes Tresty abandoned the run (doesn’t take much), then, rinse, wash, repeat, same result as always.

        • I think the Nascar package, which used to go Allen-Ratliff-Houston-Young, will now go Allen-Ratliff-Sutton-Young.
          But last time the Bears were missing Ratliff and Allen. We’ll see how much of a difference that makes, but I’m not too optimistic.
          GB is scoring 35+ in this game, and CHI is scoring less than 30.

      • BerwynBomber

        Agree about the Rodgers/Cutler comparison, but I’m not sure that is the only way to beat the Cheese. A huge ground game — running Forte 30 times — might not be a bad idea. Stating the obvious but a) Forte is our best player, b) the Cheeses’ run D sucks, and c) ball control keeps Rodgers on the sidelines.

        • GPLDAN

          Point c)

          Data’s data showed just how bad the Bears at a run game to control the clock – how quickly they are looking to revert to the spread.

          But since Cutler is death when he throws the slant – Bears have no effective grind game.

          • Cutler is not death when he throws the slant. Used it quite effectively last year. It’s just not in this offense, for some reason.

          • GPLDAN

            Maybe because the Bills and the Pack sat on the inside slant and picked him when he did it.

          • neither Bills INT was on the quick slant. One was a deep pass to Bennett that was a route miscommunication, the other was on a busted play where he tried to force the ball back into coverage to Bennett.
            In fact, Cutler has only thrown 2 INTs on a slant this year… to Morgan and Santonio Holmes. Why not run slants to Jeffery and Marshall (or Bennett out of the slot)? Those are your big guys who should excel at the slant.

          • The Pack INT was def a slant though (unless my memory is faltering). Safety just sitting there, waiting for Cuttty to go all Cutty.

          • the CB jumped the route. No S involved. It was a bad read by Cutler, as the CB was sitting on the slant pre-snap.

          • Cutler’s mom

            Because the QB is inaccurate and can’t read defenses.

        • We were gashing them last time on the ground, but I have little faith in this braintrust.

          NO BLOGGER has been stressing the run more (since my offseason begging of drafting a short yd back) than I have, but I don’t expect a cheetah to change his stripes at this point, so to speak.

          Plus, sometime during the game, Cutler will be asked to win it, and that’s usually when he throws it to some Packer defender.

          I’m still holding out hope that we pitch the perfect the game, but I’ll be watching this game by myself cuz I expect to be pissed more often than not.

          • BillW

            If GB scores on every possession like last time (except for a blocked FG) we’re down double digits at the half again. Then Jay the gunslinger comes back out.

            But sometimes the gunslinger wins. While I want the score to be competitive, once the game is on I think I’d rather seeing them go down trying than keep it safe and lose anyway.

        • Max

          We uncovered how to beat them in GB last year: Peppers injured Aaron Rodgers. It could happen again, right?

          • beninnorcal

            No, Shea injured him, and yes, it could happen again.

          • I wouldn’t complain about Peppers doing it for us. Friendly fire in pregame warmups?

  • GPLDAN

    Jefe twims:

    If I had a nickel for every time a certain columnist wrote certain things after a certain blogger had already written them…

    Looks like Haugh is plagiarizing the blog again!

    To the ramparts!

    • CanadaBear

      Hell, even I can truthfully make that statement.

  • Meanwhile, Borland had like 15 tackles at SF.
    I don’t get WHY the Bears (and other teams) don’t bring in guys like Borland with late round fodder picks.
    At least we brought in Christian Jones, but Borland “becoming” good suddenly doesn’t surprise.

    Sometimes I think GMs fall in love with “posters” more than “players”.

    • Borland tested poorly, which is a red flag to numbers people who think he’s too athletically limited to be a good NFL player.
      That said, he went in the 3rd round, top 80 picks overall, so it’s not like he fell completely through the cracks. And he’s more of a fit in a 3-4 like SF than a 4-3 like Chicago, IMO.

      But yeah, I loved Borland for his intangibles. Bears need a guy like that, who plays better than he’s tested.

  • All that being said. FUCK Vadgers!
    C’mon, Bears! Don’t let this twat tea-bag you guys again!

    http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/aaron-rodgers-america.jpg

    • CanadaBear

      I’m a little surprised what lengths the media will go to suck up to a great player. SI had some piece about who had the hottest significant other. Brady vs Erin. Giselle vs Olivia Munn. Really? Does Erin’s “roommate” know about this? I truly don’t care if Erin is gay. The only reason it’s compelling is to ride the cheeseheads about it because you know a bunch of them are homophobic. However, comparing Brady’s wife to Erin’s beard is ludicrous.

  • beninnorcal

    Hey Cheesy, I was just re-eeading our brief conversation from last nite and that’s not the dude I am. I owe you an apology for me being such a dick. Packers and Bears shit aside, who cares? I don’t, already pretty much checked out on this season.
    I take back the fuck you’s and appreciate your using of the term ‘muppet’ to describe me.
    Ad far as you being here on this blog and being a troll and all, I don’t really care. You win, sir. Cheers.

    • CanadaBear

      Very classy Ben. I was a little shocked when you flipped. Personally I have never interacted with Cheesy on principle (no feeding the trolls) but have no issue with him being here. At least he brings some value. He’s only a troll about 10% of the time. And let’s be honest, if we smoked the Fudgies on a consistent basis, we’d welcome him as a comic foil.

      • he showers his with brother. and sister. and bathes in pineapple pulp.

        • GPLDAN

          That’s everybody in Wisconsin, though. Not what makes him special.

          • TheBigCheesy

            you guys don’t shower with your siblings?

          • beninnorcal

            I shower with my mom and dad like everyone else.

      • beninnorcal

        I was in a funk, as many are this season. I don’t know why I let it get to me, but looking back it didn’t feel right. Life’s too short to be all pissy.

        • CanadaBear

          Exactly! If Cheesy was a typical troll I would have laughed (other than the fact that you were so pissed).

    • Truth is, I prob agree with Cheesy more than some on our side.
      he’s still scrotum sweat cuz he’s a Pack fan, but how can I blame him for reading this blog?
      We’re some charming motherfuckers.
      The fact he frequents this Bears blog more than the mouth-breathing inbred urine bed in Wisc shows SOME semblance of sense.
      That being said. Fuck him. IN. THE. EYE.

      • beninnorcal

        I enjoy Jeff’s posts alot but I’ve been coming here since some time in ’07 mostly for the interesting folks in the comments. So many have come and gone and I sometimes wonder if it’s not that they’re gone, rather, they cone back as someone new. Internet’s a wierd place.

      • beninnorcal

        Sometimes the truth hurts. Although I wasn’t saying Cutler was playing like Rodgers, but if you look at their stat lines they’re nearly identical in terms of yards, comp. %, TD’s, etc til you get to TO’s which makes the difference in passer rating. I know, I know, Rodgers is the best QB ever and Cutler is the worst by far, I get it.

        • CanadaBear

          It’s such a pisser that Rodgers fell in their laps. I often wonder if all the NFL personnel knew he was gay and were afraid to draft him.

          • beninnorcal

            I always hated how Favre owned our team for years and when we finally cracked the code on him he was replaced by someone even better. Not Fair. Rodgers story supports the old-school approach toward qb’s where they were better off to ride the pine the first few years.

          • Not sure about that. There’s been evidence both ways.
            Wilson and Luck look like sure-fire “Elite” QBs.
            And I think Elway and Marino started right away too. Just depends on if the team has a system in place.

          • beninnorcal

            I’m not saying it’s a rule, just saying that Rodger’s seemed to benefit from it.

          • I think in his case, yeah, though it was an odd dynamic.
            Farvre wasn’t one of those, “come under my wing, kid”. It’s pretty well known Favre treated Rodgers like an interloper. I think I heard Favre say something like, “No one took me under their wing, so why should I?”
            It’s sorta like a tough-love sorta dad.
            But my guess is that Rodgers learned a lot from him, even if indirectly.
            What to do, and perhaps more importantly, what NOT to do. Rodgers is far more efficient than Favre on his best day.

          • BillW

            Rodgers has been quoted as saying he learned how devastating turnovers can be from his time on the bench. In his first years he took a lot of sacks rather than throwing the ball away. He was concussed more than once I recall.

            I know little about him but I suspect he then worked on a quicker release as well as his incredible accuracy.

            What I wonder about though is how his receivers never seem to run a wrong route. I know he has a great sense of where the receivers will be and also where the defenders will be. But that assumes the receivers do what’s expected. There are no Santonio Holmes run blocking for a pass play, or BMarsh running a go instead of a hitch.

            Maybe there are no “sight adjustments” in the GB playbook. Cheesy – come back and add some insight to this if you can.

          • TheBigCheesy

            I don’t understand how anyone can say Rodgers “fell in their laps”. Luck fell in Indy’s lap.

            Rodgers was picked 24th. Thompson took a huge risk taking him with Favre and co. in “win now” mode. Rodgers was Thompson’s first pick as GM. And then the Packers brass had to wade through the Favre saga in 2008 and turned everything over to Rodgers when there was sooooo much uncertainty and it could have gone soooo very wrong if Rodgers had failed.

            There weren’t any “no-brainer” decisions involved in getting Rodgers to week 1 of 2008. There were so many teams in front of Green Bay with as much, if not more so, reason to draft Rodgers and yet they didn’t. The Bears, for one, thought Cedric Benson was a much better idea.

          • Only Lovie’s dumb-ass thought Benson was necessary.
            Unfortunately, that’s the only opinion that apparently mattered, and I might add, which might have cost us the SB.

          • CanadaBear

            Not really buying all that drama. Favre was near the end, they needed a young QB, Rodgers and Smith were rumored to go top 5, if not 1-2. Not exactly a difficult choice at 24. Thus fell into their laps.

          • TheBigCheesy

            CanadaBear, you’re only lying to yourself

    • TheBigCheesy

      Apology unnecessary. The day you can’t tell a packer fan to “fuck off” for trolling your favorite blog during packer week is the day the internet hath broken.

  • 7 of 10. On Rivers: why when he plays an awful game like Sunday doesn’t
    the San Diego media spend 24 hours debating his AWFUL body language? – Jeff

    haha, has he ever been to SD? They treat football like Chicago treats Curling. “It’s a sport?”

    • CanadaBear

      If I lived in SD I’d be hard pressed to get pissed about anything other than traffic. I’m all about good weather and SD has the best in the continental US.

    • BerwynBomber

      Yep. The only pressure that compares to Chicago’s is arguably both NY teams, NE, DC and Dallas. Even a city like SF has nowhere the media scrutiny that we or those other five have. There is a reason Alex Smith was allowed to suck for three or four years before he started playing well. Or in terms of coaching, why Kubiak lasted forever in Houston. Or Marvin Lewis in Cincy.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Bruce Arians would not be any guarantee to make Cutler and this offense better. And his defensive coordinator of choice, Todd Bowles, would be no more successful with this absence of defensive talent.”
    I think you are short-shrifting Todd Bowles.
    The Cardinal Defense has endured aan avalanche of injury/free agent/suspension losses and still performs at a high level.

    • GPLDAN

      The Cardinals went into Dallas and punched them right in the mouth. Shut that run game down.

      • Yeah, but in Dallas’ defensive, The Cards stacked like NINE in the box cuz they weren’t losing any sleep over Weeden going bonkers.

        Romo gets a lot of shit, (including wearing his hat backwards, like Cutler) but at least he keeps defenses somewhat honest.

  • CanadaBear

    This used to happen to me all the time when I was a kid. However, I never went to the cops. Even then I was a stand-up guy. Or was that an upstanding member. I can’t imagine what she did to him to make him call the cops. I would have built a permanent shrine to her when I was 15.

    http://chicagosuntimes.com/sports/ex-ravens-cheerleader-charged-with-sex-with-teen/

    • Bad BJ?

      • CanadaBear

        George Carlin’s classic bit about things you never hear. “If you don’t stop sucking my cock, I’ll call the police.”

        • haha I did once tell a girl she gave bad head. This was after years of it though.
          It’s not that she didn’t try, just
          thin lips + small mouth + big teeth + big dong = bad BJ.
          I think I got off on her triple Cs more than the actual BJ, but I won’t intrude on MBs penthouse schtick here.

          • BTW, guys, don’t do what I did. At best they become self-conscious, at worst, resentful.
            Just suck it up (pun intended), like a man: disappointed, but grateful.

          • CanadaBear

            Not trying to be an ass (who needs to try?) but all the old guys on the blog already knew this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • GPLDAN

            Sounds like a David Bowie track

            “Thin lips, bad BJ”

    • BillW

      She left him for an older guy of 16.

    • BillW

      In all seriousness, though there is very little written about it, this sort of situation can lead to issues for a boy after he grows up. Quite different than for a girl obviously – but there is a strong possibility he will have trouble having a healthy relationship with a woman.

      • CanadaBear

        I’m sure you’re right Bill but I’m just as sure I would have been willing to take the risk.

        • BillW

          Which is why I suspect she “wronged” him somehow and he’s getting revenge. I think it’s great irony.

        • Scott W.

          I actually authored 3 articles and one 3-part series about this exact issue, several years ago, and recently, because of those articles, was interviewed by an NBC affiliate on the topic overall, and specifically the effects on males.
          While it certainly makes for titillating chit chat, let me assure you, the damage is extraordinary.
          Most men who were abused by adult women as boys begin manifesting the side effects, if you will, in their late 20’s or early 30’s.
          By their mid 40’s, it’s a train wreck. It just isn’t a spectacular, ohmygod train wreck, as most men internalize it. Their spouses suffer a lot, but not in a physical or sexual way. Rather, they are pushed away emotionally, and often vilified by the male for loving them at all, because the man doesn’t feel he deserves it.
          That is the cliff notes of the cliff notes summary.
          It truly gets ugly for the victims later in life. And in case you’re wondering, these types of victims are the LEAST likely to become offenders as adults, and their sexual orientation remains as it was originally.

      • Scott W.

        See my comment below, Bill. You are correct.

  • IBNO

    The Ebbon Britton bit was interesting. It’s worth noting that even scrubs on NFL teams are likely some of the best athletes produced by their high schools. At my high school, the best player of my era (and the 40 years before me) ended up a backup at a middling Big Ten school. Even since then, after multiple state championships, my high school has only produced a couple NFL players and a smattering of college “stars.”

  • BerwynBomber

    In terms of the earlier Rodgers discussion and his falling stock in the draft, I believe he was JuCo kid and no D1 school offered him a scholarship out of HS. Plus, I’m guessing a lot of GMs were concerned he might be another Jeff Tedford mirage; most of Tedford’s QBs had been bust-like in the NFL and the dude who preceded Rodgers directly at Cal was Kyle Boller, who never amounted to jack-squat with the Ravens.

    I’ll actually give the Cheese grudging/gritted teeth praise when it comes Favre and Rodgers. They saw diamonds in the rough where other teams did not. Indy’s good fortune with Peyton and Luck is more annoying as those were basically no-brainer decisions that required very little scouting. Irsay could have made both decisions by himself.

    • CanadaBear

      True enough but Erin and Alex Smith were the top 2 QB’s in the draft and people were surprised Smith got picked before Rodgers. Smith goes 1 and Erin goes 24 or 5. For draftniks that was pretty shocking.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Have to give Indy SOME credit.
      There were plenty of “expertss” advocating Ryan Leaf over Manning and RGIII over Luck.
      I still remember some advocating that the Bears take Art Schlichter over Jim McMahon back in the day.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, but in both cases the teams and GMs, from all we know, were pretty set on who was #1. Luck, in particular, was considered the biggest #1 lock since Elway. And that opinion came from Kiper, no less.

  • BillW

    Things I’ll never understand about the Packers and / or their fans:

    Why do they think “Cheesehead” is a compliment?

    Why do they think it’s so great to play in a college stadium with benches?

    Seriously – why do they think their uniforms are so great and classic? The logo certainly is – but the color scheme is terrible (I say this from hearing several women commenting on how the colors essentially clash with the yellow being way too bright.)

    Why so they brag about their fan base in a town where there is almost literally nothing to do EXCEPT be a Packer fan?

    How many realize that if it weren’t for George Halas advocating for Lambeau to be built, they might be the New York Packers?

    Why do they call Green Bay Titletown USA when they rank EIGHTH overall?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._cities_by_number_of_professional_sports_championships

    • GPLDAN

      Some Packer Fans are old enough to know the link between Papa Bear Halas and the creation of the team. Most don’t.

      • BillW

        The Packers are actually older than the Bears, though they came into the league a year after it was formed.

        The Packers had the G on their helmet a year before the Bears had the C.

        The C however was NOT copied from the G (though they look similar). There is no definitive story as to where it came from. Logic says it came from the U of C but some say it came from Carroll College (now University) in Wisconsin.

    • BerwynBomber

      I always assumed the “Titletown” thing came about via the media during the Lombardi years. Sorta like Dallas’s “America’s Team” stuff during the Landry years.

      • BillW

        Absolutely true. I’m just getting into character in preparation for the game by railing on Packer fans.

      • CanadaBear

        At least there is legitimacy to Titletown. The cowgirls are no more Americas team than any other franchise. Yes they sell a ton of trinkets but there are more people in North America that hate the cowgirls more than any other NFL franchise.

    • Trac

      Don’t forget that the cheese lent Halas money so he could pay his bills.

      • BillW

        That is true;

        Halas also argued that the Packers be reinstated after they were banned for using college players illegally.

        Like Batman / Joker – they sort of need each other. And it’s fun that each side views the other as the Joker and them as Batman.

    • Cormonster

      The “Cheesehead” thing is just self-effacing humor. People called Wisconsinites Cheeseheads as a derogatory term, and they turned it around and made it a thing of pride / humor.

      Lambaugh is a WAY better place to see a game than Soldier Field, and more fun. It’s like a college atmosphere and the tailgaiting is better. Also Soldier Field is a nightmare to get to and leave after games.

      Their fan base is state-wide. I bet less than half the people at games live in the GB area. The “best fans” thing is annoying as hell. It has more to do with having a winning franchise for the better part of twenty years than anything.

      • GPLDAN

        The lakefront access to Soldier Field was designed by mental midgets.

        Lucas and the Star Wars museum is just going to make it worse.

        • Cormonster

          After a few concerts and a Bears game last year, I decided to take some time off from traveling to downtown Chicago. I always have a great time when I’m down there, but it’s such a pain in the ass logistically and expensive.

          • GPLDAN

            Your best bet is to park in a garage somewhere around LaSalle and just hoof it.

            That sucks in the cold weather though.

          • Cormonster

            I go to games with my uncle and cousin who have a parking spot at the Adler. For a noon game we are usually downtown by 7:30 or 8:00 to beat the traffic. Getting out is when it sucks. Even if we wait 1.5-2 hours after the game to leave, it still takes forever to get to the expressway heading north. Before the Adler, we used to park way up by McCormick Center and then hop a bus to the stadium. That was a disaster. The bus lines to and from were always 30-60 minutes.

          • CanadaBear

            You need a sister that lives within walking distance. I love going to Chicago but once I get there, I park in the same parking garage that my brother-in-law uses and never use the car again until I leave town. We either walk or cab it everywhere.

          • Cormonster

            I’m usually only there for a night, and on a weekend. I just hate driving down there after not living in a congested traffic area for 20 years. Milwaukee, Madison, or Minneapolis are so easy to get around compared to Chicago.

          • CanadaBear

            I haven’t driven downtown in at least 12 years. Truly hate it. Living here on the Island with all the old cooties presents its own challenges. They don’t drive fast but if they are moving, they think they have the right-of-way. Really interesting in parking lots!!!!!!

      • BerwynBomber

        Well, it does have that “only game in town” edge too because it is such a small town. Btw, is it just me or does it seem stupid that Milwaukee or WI does not have an NHL franchise? Never understood that.

        • BillW

          Lloyd use to own or run the Milwaukee Admirals of a lower league. I always thought as you seem to that the rivalry would be a natural thing.

          • BerwynBomber

            But I guess even beyond a Blackhawks rivalry it would seem like a pro sport that would flourish up there. In effect, just for the league’s sake it would seem a smart move.

          • BillW

            Yeah – with several francises moving around in the NHL I never heard of Milwaukee as a potential landing site.

          • CanadaBear

            There might be some rules in place because of the proximity to Chicago. I know there was a lot of talk about a franchise in Hamilton, Ont. but they were so close to Toronto it was a non-starter. BTW, Toronto has so many fans they could easily start the Hamilton franchise with zero effect on the Leafs.

          • BerwynBomber

            You could be right but seems like a brain-dead, greedy preclusion on behalf of the other owners.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m not even sure I’m correct but I definitely agree with you. If Milwaukee had a franchise, the only Hawks fans that would be affected are the ones that would drive north to see a game. I haven’t been to a hockey game in Chicago since the new stadium was built but everything I see the place is packed for every game.

        • Cormonster

          I’ve wondered that too. I’m sure a team would draw bigger crowds than the Milwaukee Bucks. Ironic that most hockey fans I know who grew up in Wisconsin are Blackhawk fans.

          • BerwynBomber

            Well, Bettman seems like a bozo. I guess they’d rather drop franchises in FL, Carolina, TN, AZ, etc.

    • BillW

      Wow – who knew there would be so many blog posters coming to the Packer fans’ defense!

      See Cheesy – they like you! They really LIKE you!

      I know all that stuff – obviously.

      I also know the super fans is self-effacing humor of many Chicago sports fans.

      And I know that “Da” is supposed to represent the way Chicagoans say “the”.

      The only one I was serious about was the one I started off by saying “seriously”. Context clue.

  • Any of you guys own a plane?

    “Plane carries “Fire John Idzik” Banner over Jet’s Stadium”

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/05/plane-carrying-fire-john-idzik-banner-flies-over-jets-practice/#comments

    • BerwynBomber

      Have we come to a consensus on PE or Tresty? Need to know before we fire up the crop-duster.

      • BillW

        In Tresty we don’t trusty!

        In PE we’ll wait and see.

      • Funniest comment from that thread:

        “It was Rex Ryan”

        • GPLDAN

          LOL.

          That was funny.

          New Yorkers got balls.

        • BerwynBomber

          Saw a similar one a few weeks back when Geno Smith flipped off the Jets fan at the end of a game. Someone cracked that the fan was Sanchez and he was holding “And they thought I was bad?” sign.

  • Trac

    I can’t take this losing season and 85’s blow job fantasies at the same time. It’s disturbing.

  • GPLDAN

    Is Halloween over?

    Boo!

    http://tinyurl.com/mwqxj8f

  • GPLDAN

    I’m sort of happy Eben Britton has appendicitis or whatever.

    Watching the replays of games makes you really despise the Britton twin RT formation. Takes a TE out and gives nothing back other than covering for Mills inability to hold his edge.

    If Tresticle is too dumb to have a blocking TE on the roster, he deserves his fate.

  • BerwynBomber

    Marcus Lattimore retired today. Rotten luck for that kid. Elsewhere the Texas are finally giving Ryan Mallet a look. Why that took eight games I’ll never understand.

    • Trac

      Mallet is dumb as rocks, slow as molasses and a choker.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I’d tone down these opinions if I were you. He might end up having success just as easily as he could fail. If I’d have to chose I’d bet on his success, rather than his failure.

        • Trac

          I watched the kid play high school ball and his team mates didn’t like him for all of the above. Rocket for an arm but that’s were it ends with him. Capiche Pisani?

  • BerwynBomber

    Lastly, need a cheap, proven NFL RB with diminishing skills as a back-up before heading into the second half of the season? Ray Rice might soon be able to lace up cleats. I’m assuming he could be had for a song.

    • EnderWiggin

      I’d sing it.

  • TheBigCheesy

    I’ve got some optimism for you guys! It just occurred to me that Cutler has only played at lambeau 3 times in his career, and therefore has only lost 3 times. So maybe it’s not really a trend yet at this venue? He did throw 4 INTs in 2 of those games however.

    • beninnorcal

      Remember last time Shea Mcclellon played there and cracked Erin Rodgers vaj-jay-jay?

      • TheBigCheesy

        yes

  • Trac

    After listening to the statements coming from the republicrats today, I have a very uneasy feeling. What is it they’re chomping at the bits to do? I feel a screwing coming on. Ive got the sneaky suspicion that the other hand is about to remove the pea. The shell game continues.

    • Cormonster

      A couple good things came from the elections yesterday. Oregon, Alaska, and DC legalized marijuana. California passed proposition 47 to get rid of some of that state’s draconian drug laws and petty theft laws, changing them to misdemeanors from felonies.

    • SC Dave

      Cant be much worse than the last six years of screwing

      • johnnywad

        Just six? Seems like we’ve been getting fucked since Reagan to me.

  • GPLDAN

    Oh maaaaaaaaaasaan

    If you haven’t heard Briggs sound bites from today seek them out

    Not good. Not good.

    • GPLDAN

      I am 100% sure Jeff’s post tomorrow is about these comments

    • Trac

      Are you talking about his comments about the last time he’ll be playing the Packers as a bear?

    • Liiiiinnnkkkk

      • Trac

        If it’s the last game against the packers thing, I don’t see what the big deal is. We all knew he prolly wouldn’t be back next year.

        • BerwynBomber

          My theory about Briggs’ final years is twofold. One, he was never the same player after that mid-season injury last year at DC. Remember, up till then, he was literally playing like an All-Pro the fist half of the season — note: All-Pro not just Pro Bowl.

          Second, and this is more speculative, I wonder if he’s checked out on Marshall’s and Trestman’s leadership. He might not be a believer in what either is selling and he might be in pure collect my check mode.

          • Trac

            There will always be a transition phase after seeing your coach for almost your entire career be fired. Injuries start piling up after so many years and every player goes through this. It’s time.

          • Briggs should’ve just “quit” like Olin did once he got demoted on the Saints.
            Olin had too much character to just sit on his ass and joke around.
            A huge leadership vacuum emerged, and instead of stepping up, Briggs probably turned it into a vortex.

          • BerwynBomber

            Valid point. But I wouldn’t blame Briggs for not stepping into that leadership role — not to say you necessarily were — as he might never have had that in him.

          • SC Dave

            Agree for sure. Not everyone is cut out to lead.

        • Sounds like he checked out already. Didn’t say anything about wanting to beat the Pack before leaving.
          What a loser.

          • It just struck me. Briggs reminds me of Dwight Howard.

          • Trac

            Whoa…what is wrong with you 85? The guy was awesome and was a gamer for most of his career. I don’t get the disdain. Times are changing for the guy. 12 yrs is a long long nfl career. I have no problem with his comments.

          • I must admit, I never really liked him, esp after his hold out “I’ll never be a Bear again.”
            Guy is just a “hired gun.” I like him about as much as I “like” “private contractors”.
            He’s the Dwight Howard of the Bears. Good player. Nothing more.
            Personally, I’ll be glad once he’s off the team. I was actually hoping it would be this year, but understood that he might have been a necessary evil given our LB depth.

          • GPLDAN

            He talks at length about not paying attention during film review and watching the clock. He is coming out saying he is gone after this year. Just a really dooooont care attitude to him there

          • Trac

            This is in part the fallout from firing Lovie. It’s human nature. He probably know more about his assignments than his coach.

          • No, Briggs has ALWAYS been like this. He never showed up to camp in shape. When he returned from his inj, he looked like a cheeseburger.
            He got by with his talent, not passion. Like an Anti-Waddle.
            I never questioned either Lach’s or Hester’s love for the Bears. With this guy, it IS just “business”, and that’s fine, but that doesn’t mean I have to like it.
            I’ll put it this way. If someone bought me a Brigg’s jersey, I wouldn’t wipe my ass with it (cough cough, Cedric Benson), but I wouldn’t wear it either. It would end up in a garage box next to my 8th grade Cross Colors, or try to sell it on Ebay.

            “Just business.”

          • Trac

            I think he served his time with honors. Can’t fault a guy for being human. Overall, he was pretty good and I don’t like to see players thrown out with the garbage like Lach. Truth be told, nobody will care about these guys more than there mama’s. The NFL is not his end all.

          • Trac

            If you knew half the head games the coaching staff and GMS employ you’d lighten up. This is today’s NFL and Briggs played to win.

  • Also, on the Briggs note. Maybe he left the locker room because when Bmarsh was calling out players for lack of passion and commitment, maybe Briggs knew who he was talking about.

    • BerwynBomber

      Could be. Or he doesn’t buy the whole BMarsh shtick; that is, if one considers it shtick. Plus, technically Briggs was inactive for that game.

  • BearDown100393

    Phil Emery seemed to desire hiring a submissive non-threatening head coach. Hence, Bruce Arians coaches in Arizona and not here. Enter Marc Trestman. And the locker room took notice.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      The solution is simple…change the locker room.

      PS: Emery didn’t want a submissive non-threatening head coach. That’s an unsubstantiated claim.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Emery is a big time GM. All this non sense is stupid. Why he did this or did that or what ever is food for naives.

    The only difference between Trestman and Arians is that the second one has a big time Defense and ST. Everything changes when you have an elite Defense and ST.

    Emery’s errors come from a managerial strategy point of view. He created -as much as he can while being the GM of a losing franchise- an ideal environment for winning,but for an already winning group of players and coaches. He isn’t there yet, he has to create an environment in order to START winning.

    He needs to realize there’s a lack of the bad guy personality and act upon it. They need some nasty in the form of a big time DC or himself to go with the finesse, good guy Head Coach.

    • Trac

      There are huge differences between Arians and Tresty. Content, track record, results. Trestman is not going to succeed because he doesnt have the personality to lead. A leader has to walk a fine line between being respected and feared. A leader also has to have people following him. I don;t see that happening in Chicago and when I hear his players are comparing him to a coordinator and not a head coach, I get it.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        What players ? Fuck them if they exist.
        I don’t need them telling me that Trestman isn’t HC material. I already know for a year now he’s completely useless and clueless on the Defensive side.
        That doesn’t mean much when you have great defensive players and a proper DC.
        Give Trestman an elite D and allow him to concentrate on O and speeches and he’ll look like big time HC material.

        Arians is just like Trestman if not worse. The Offenses are very similar in potency, but Cardinals lack of production is masked by elite D and elite ST. Their O -which is Arians O- is under performing constantly for almost 2 years now.

        If you want to talk about game changing HC that’s McCoy of the Chargers. Now that the one we should be talking about. He’s been way better than Arians and Trestman up until now.

        He’s the same kind of personality as Trestman. More of a coordinator type. He’s super successful.

      • BillW

        By far the most pertinent point in my opinion is that Trestman is not an effective leader.

        • BillW

          Add to that the prevailing opinion that the Bears are soft and it’s not difficult to understand how they got here.

          Are they soft? Is that fair? I think so. They sure aren’t tough.

      • SC Dave

        Never ceases to amaze me how much people think they know about an organization of which they are not a part.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Trac • 15 hours ago
          After listening to the statements coming from the republicrats today, I have a very uneasy feeling. What is it they’re chomping at the bits to do? I feel a screwing coming on. Ive got the sneaky suspicion that the other hand is about to remove the pea. The shell game continues.

          SC Dave > Trac • 14 hours ago
          Cant be much worse than the last six years of screwing

          I see what you’re doing. You like to amaze yourself.

    • BillW

      Emery was NOT the gm of a losing franchise. . They were 10-6 his first year. Yes the arrow looked like it was pointing down but let’s not rewrite history to make a point

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        The Bears have 1 playoff appearance the last 7 years. They have 5 in 20 years. I don’t know if it’s actually a losing franchise, but sure as fuck isn’t a winning one.

        The Packers and the Patriots have 6 in the last 7 years, 15 the last 20 years.

        That’s history. Rewrite all that you want, but it ain’t me that’s making a point using arrows and useless records.

        • BillW

          Calm down. I do respect the fact that you have a philosophy for building a winning team within the structure that exists now (Emery / Trestman).

          • BillW

            My point was Emery took a big risk firing a coach of a 10-6 team that missed the playoffs due to a tie-breaker. A coach that did in fact take the team to a Super Bowl. I agreed with his decision but he had to get it right and he didn’t. Whether that’s because of the DC or ST coach or OC or HC or letting Arians go or whatever, there are those who now wonder if he should kept Lovie and worked with him to get a top OC. It’s a valid question.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            You’re wrong. And what’s why I’m insisting on the losing franchise discussion.

            The ownership shouldn’t have never put him in that position. They should have allowed him to run his own show instead of forcing him into lose-lose situations.

            What he decided during lose-lose situations is something to analyze, but that’s a different topic.

            PS: Lovie as a winning coach isn’t a valid question. He’s a bum that’s passed over by time.

          • BillW

            This is a dead thread but I’d like to clarify:

            I’m not sure where you think I’m wrong. Firing a coach with a winning record was a risk – but maybe that’s where you’re saying ownership should not have put him that position.

            Plus I don’t think Emery made the right decision on the coach, or the overall makeup of the coaching staff. You praise him in the new thread for giving his employees freedom. Freedom led to Tucker and JoeD assuming it really was Trestman’s decisions.

            But I do think Emery is a decent GM.

            Just to be clear again:
            I wanted Lovie gone and I wouldn’t want him back. But Lovie with a great OC is a valid scenario that some people wonder about. Not want necessarily. It’s Trestman’s lack of success that caused that to happen.

            Unless there was a coach that Emery lost because he was stuck with Lovie year 1, I don’t see the issue in the overall scheme. Emery was given a year to analyze the team without being responsible for the decisions made by others. That worked for Jim Finks quite well back in the 70s so I had no problem with it. Finks knew he was going to fire Abe, and Emery knew he was going to fire Lovie. Even if he made the playoffs I think.

            You say it was a lose – lose situation. What are the two losing sides? Lose-lose means he loses no matter what is decided. He made his decision a year later and no one that I hear is regretting him firing Lovie. There is simply “what-ifs” being raised (and not seriously discussed).

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    I don’t like Mills at Guard switch. I’d rather go with De La Puente. Mills is bad in the run game, plus Ola has been money at Guard in his time there. Why change things, again ?
    Looks like instead of doing the logical move they’re going for the cute, innovative choice. That’s the losing choice especially when you’re in crises mode.
    My is my order of choice:

    1. De La Puente at G and Ola at T.
    2. Ola at G and Mills at T
    3. Mills at G and Ola at T

    • SC Dave

      Many here have proposed that Kromer is in fact a skilled offensive line coach. Do you suppose he could, just maybe, actually know what he is doing?

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I try and give my opinion first hand. This ‘thing’ of saying ‘don’t you think X knows better then you what do do’ isn’t productive. It’s the old ‘if you know so much why don’t you email the Bears you CV’ part.

        My amateur football knowledge tells these moves are risky and cute. I think the Bears need logical and simple right now, while in crisis mode, before a vital season deciding game. I also believe such decisions can’t be taken by the OL Coach. It’s Trestman’s decision and Emery should have his say on the matter.

    • Couldn’t disagree more.
      Mills was never brought in to be a RT. He was brought in to become OG. Because of the clusterfuck at OT, he was pressed to become RT, and he did ok, but the book on him was always his slow feet. Mills is a better run-blocker, which makes him ideal for OG.
      As long as he’s not inj (which is a big IF), I contend Mills will excel at OG.
      DeLaPuente is more of a C, and Ola more of an OT.
      Slauson was a better pass protector, but I really like Mills and Long pusing the piles on the inside for the run game.

  • Trac

    I just saw Briggs in his press conference on da site. The guy is just being real. He didn’t sound like he was whining, just being real. These guys take notice when their buddy’s are replaced by new meat, its the bitter reality of playing in the NFL. I totally understand why he doesn’t think the Bears will offer him what he thinks he’s worth. Nobody likes to fade away but it is a sad reality.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Emery should have traded or even cut him going into the bye.

      • Trac

        With this LB corp? You crazy. It was too late for that. Should da been done last year.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Send him packing. He’s receiving more than he’s getting. He’s just as bad as the others, but the others need snaps and might give you something in the future.
          It’s also an easy way to send a message to everybody. It’s all very friendly and puffy for the Bears players.

          • Trac

            The message there would be wasted by the fact that Tresty would have traded the Bears best LB for chump change. The players would not respect that move. You’re acting like Briggs has been acting like Albert Haynesworth. Gimme a break. Trading him last year would have been a bellacheat like move because the Bears would have actually gotten better value for him. I disagree my Romanian friend.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Talking about coaching and strategy I’d like to go back to the Patriots-Broncos game here, guys. There’s no secret I love Patriots D, unlike the general opinion they’re a collection of bums and overrated. So let’s analyze a little their masterpiece game plan against the Broncos with Bear eyes.

    These were their packages Sunday night:

    Sub: 80-of-82
    Base: 1-of-82
    Heavy: 1-of-82

    Awesome isn’t it ? They studied the game and said ‘we’ll play sub no matter what’. It’s a clear strategic decision and not one based on what Denver did. They played sub even against 2TE-1RB
    looks. Interesting decision on a windy, wet night when you’d think the run game is the norm. Nothing new, mind you, they used the same tactic against the Jets, but not at such extreme %. Remember that game ? They gave up close to 200 yards running and people thought the Bears can run the ball like crazy against them.

    Their secondary is staked like crazy. Maybe only the Cardinals have such depth. And they used them the proper way in the sense they mixed and matched non stop. Here are their snap count.

    Darrelle Revis — 81 of 82
    Brandon Browner — 81 of 82
    Kyle Arrington — 54 of 82
    Malcolm Butler — 36 of 82
    Logan Ryan — 4 of 82

    So their usual trio was Revis-Browner-Arringtonin nickel. But they wanted Browner to take Julius Thomas one on one at different stages. So gone is Arrington who’s a slot specialist and was taking Welker and in goes Butler (an UFA rookie).

    Of course playing sub makes you susceptible against the run. So their DL played double gap, the SS was always in the box and they where blitzing a lot. Blitz the run and the pass at the same time.

    PS: Returning to the Bears. I thought from before the draft this is what they’re going to do. I always envisioned the Bears D in a very similar manner as what Pats D showed us Sunday night. Before the Draft I was telling you about the physical, multi dimensional CB and was laughing at the notion of a 3T. That’s why I did it. I thought the plan was to play nickel. So draft a shout down CB with size (possible match against the TE that kill the Bears every time) and big bodied DT.
    Lamarr Houston was the big time secret weapon, because he’s a complete player. He can play every position: DE, OLB, DT, DE in 3-4 looks.
    You use Tillman in the center of the field the most, but end up using Fuller and Jennings there also. Blitz you LB like crazy because you don’t want them in coverage. Blitz the Ss, move them around. Use them all. Use Verreen a lot.

    Somehow they ended up playing the same stupid zones while playing base. It’s depressing. I believe that even if you don’t have top players, you must take risks, play big boys D, play man, blitz, create confusion and turnovers. That’s what you do when you’re an Offensive minded team. I also believe it’s Trestman’s responsability. I always and still criticize him for he’s lacks on Defense than his errors on Offense. Even now when the Offense is stagnant, what pisses me of about him is his lack on Defensive vision.

    • GPLDAN

      I think the Pats D is solid as well. Solid enough to take them to the Bowl if they can get home field against the Broncos. That was a message game.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        They don’t play message games. All the games are the same. They played the Broncos the same way they played the Bengals, the BEars and will play the Colts, Chiefs and Chargers.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Here’s Belichick breaking down the 21 points in 2 minutes against the Bears at the end of the half.
    http://www.patriots.com/cda-web/audio-video-module.htm?vv=pop-out&id=fe8784dc-602b-4148-9a2f-0391a0b55303&previewMode=true

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