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Audibles From the Long Snapper: Cutler in 2015, Rodgers on Kromer, Lovie Love, Conte the Immortal & DBB Tailgate Info!

| December 19th, 2014

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#6 IN 2015 DOESN’T MEAN #6 FOREVER

Cutting or trading Jay Cutler makes no sense – fiscally or footbally (deal with it, I am using that as an adverb). The Bears should absolutely be looking for the future at the position but in the meantime you don’t throw away the type of production Cutler provides from the quarterback position. Fans and media seem to believe keeping Cutler and looking to the position in the coming drafts are mutually exclusive concepts. They are not. But if the Bears decide to make a move away from Cutler without a replacement in place they could be doomed to another decade of nightmares at the position.

RODGERS WEIGHS IN ON KROMER

Mike Silver spoke with Aaron Rodgers regarding Bears offensive coordinator Aaron Kromer and all that stuff he did. (To read the entire worthwhile piece, CLICK HERE.) An excerpt:

“I would have a major problem if somebody said something like that,” Rodgers said Tuesday during an interview at Lambeau Field. “I think anybody that plays the position, you can’t help but empathize with Jay for that situation. You talk all the time about being connected, being a unit, believing in each other. But if you have unnamed sources, people out there cutting you down, and then you find out it’s the person calling the plays — that would be really hard to deal with, to look at him the same way.”

Though Kromer reportedly apologized to Cutler — and the quarterback later said he “wasn’t angry” with his coordinator and that the team was in a “better place” following the meeting in question — Rodgers was far less forgiving.

“I felt for Jay that he was having to deal with that,” Rodgers said. “And I was surprised that the coach came out and admitted that it was him. I think, in general, unnamed sources are pretty gutless. But then he comes out and admits it was him. I don’t think he deserves any credit for that, but it was interesting that he did.”

I have listened to all the reasons Aaron Kromer still has a job on Marc Trestman’s staff. Not one of those reasons is good enough. But this is what happens when your head coach is not a leader of men. He forgives treasonous behavior to avoid disruption.

Here is a text I received from a former Bears player when I asked him how he’d respond to the Kromer admission: “I would never take a word he said seriously again”. Sounds like the perfect coach for the 2014 Bears.

Lovie Smith Taken For Granted?

Tony Dungy is now criticizing the Chicago Bears (again) for firing Lovie Smith two years ago, saying the organization took his success for granted. From a piece in the apparently still-in-existence Sporting News:

“Sometimes, you can get spoiled by success,” Dungy said. “Nine-, 10-, 11-win seasons, but you didn’t win the Super Bowl, so that’s unacceptable, you have to strive for more.”

First and foremost, this is ridiculous hindsight. Any coach not named Sandusky would look like Vince Lombardi compared to the current regime in charge of things. Secondly, after the brilliant success of 2005-6, Lovie’s career was the definition of mediocrity. 7-9, 9-7, 7-9, 11-5, 8-8, 10-6. One playoff appearance in six seasons. How many coaches survive one playoff appearance in six seasons?

Lovie Smith was a good head coach for the Chicago Bears. He doesn’t become a great one because Marc Trestman is incompetent.

Chris Conte Says the Darndest Things…

From a post at PFT:

“I’d rather have the experience of playing in the NFL and die 10 to 15 years earlier than not play in the NFL and have a long life,” he said. “I don’t really look toward my life after football. I’ll figure things out when I get there. As long as I outlive my parents.”

Chris Conte won’t be in professional football in five years (and most likely sooner than that). Then he will become acutely aware of life after football as he waits to turn 31, realizes he can’t remember why he left the house in the morning and sends audition tapes to the Pac-12 Network every August.

The NFL has to make goal number one reversing this mentality in players. It sounds insane but players simply don’t value their lives enough due to an immortality complex bred into them by decades of hero worship and weight training. They believe they are superhuman. Until the day they stop playing professional football.

CHRISTY MOORE & MY FAVORITE CHICAGO SONG

This song prominently features two of my five favorite places on earth: Chicago and Donegal.

DBB Meet & Greet

Sunday will be my first Bears tailgate in the 31st Street lot. Me,  the Reverend and the entire Josie Woods crew will be drinking and slamming down meat from 9 am. Tweet or email me to stop by.

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  • The only way I think trading Cutler makes sense from a 2015 football perspective is if the Bears are convinced there’s too much baggage here and he needs a fresh start.

    Long-term, it makes sense if whatever new coach doesn’t want him. Let him build around his guy then. This coaching search should not be based around Cutler like the last one was.

    • BearDown100393

      The Bears failed Jay Cutler. And Jay Cutler failed the Bears. Sometimes marriages simply don’t work out.

      • It’s entirely possible that’s what happened here. I still think it makes most sense to hire a new coach and then ask HIM what he wants to do with Cutler.

        • BearDown100393

          Maybe I am wrong but I recall Jay Cutler did have some input into hiring Trestman? Is that false?

          • yeah, the last coaching search was centered around Cutler. This one should not be.

          • BillW

            Right – what we got was someone was willing to work with Cutler – not the best head coach.

  • Couldn’t agree more on Lovie. He had 4 potential HOFers through their primes and made the playoffs only 1x in 6 years with that. Unacceptable. It was time for a change.

    I still maintain that the Bears win no more than 4 games last year with Lovie in charge. He never survived injuries well, and his offenses always sucked.

    Hiring Trestman was a mistake. That doesn’t mean firing Lovie was too.

    • Doc Hamstring

      That last line is the only response needed to Dungy talking about Lovie.

  • I’m fascinated by the player transition from NFL career into retirement and how difficult that must be. I’ve talked to Rashied Davis a bit about this on Twitter (he’s really interactive on there), but would love to have somebody write in more detail about the drastic change that is in their life and how they get through it.

    Jeff, I know you have some contacts. Do you think you could get a former player to write a guest post (or series) this summer about that time in their life?

    • DaBearsBlog

      Yea. I am actually working on this for a separate project as well.

    • huntinbare

      I can only speak for the 2 I have worked for and they both transirioned well into there retirement year; but they were both offensive players.

      • I know it’s possible, it just has to be incredibly difficult. It’s a HUGE adjustment at 25, 30, 35, however long you make it. Their entire lives from probably 15 til then have been centered around football. Weightlifting, cardio work, film study, practice, proper nutrition, so much goes into it. So much structure, then all of a sudden it’s gone.

        • huntinbare

          I give the family unit and the foundation it can provide credit for a successful transition. If the parents raise the athlete up to combat the “ego of privilege” that is generated by the system; then the only other major issue is the luck of surviving the physical destruction. What would be most difficult would be to have immature parental units or no parents at all. Yiy will have to combat the myth of privilege alone and that can be a daunting task.

  • GPLDAN

    Over 20 years, Trestman spent 17 seasons with eight different teams, three times lasting just one year, four times two years and only twice making it through a third season.

    This is because Marc Trestman is a flaccid individual. A lawyer by trade is really all we should have needed to know. If you can name a single successful NFL head coach who came out of law school, I am waiting to hear it. NFL players are the baddest 20 something and early 30s mofos from their hometowns and then their universities. They respond to emotion, not to a flaccid man who won’t face them in the auditorium. Pete Carroll, who has arguable adopted the ‘nice man’ routine, was a little firecracker who defined scrappy when he actually played the game. And he went to b-school.

    I doubt Marc Trestman could even catch a football thrown at him with any velocity. Flaccid.

    There is no realistic way in which Phil Emery should go on a “world tour” to look under every rock and ask every question and end up with Marc Trestman as his head coach. Who turns press conference answers into mush mouthed answers that only a lawyer would give.

    I despise this management team. I despise that a man like Ted Phillips got planted as high as he did in the org being a bean counter. I despise the way the McCaskeys have taken the team with the best graph on Shady’s 538 graph since 1920 and done what they could to make it a joke.

    The media, at essentially all corners now, has nothing but abject contempt for this organization. Top to bottom. And it should. And we should. Nothing less than driving up to Halas Hall with picket signs should be enough. We should take a cue from that awful football movie Draft Day with Kostner playing a man 30 years younger than he is, when the Seahawks GM caves and goes full pussy when he sees all the protesters on the street.

    What a shit club. I hope they sell it.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      Vince Lombardi went to Law School – dropped out after a semester.

      • GPLDAN

        Good one.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          Chuck Noll also studied to be a lawyer. again did not graduate.

          • GPLDAN

            Interesting, not on his Wiki page.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            yes it is. search for law.

      • BearDown100393

        LOL, didn’t become a lawyer, saved his football career.

      • huntinbare

        He understood any further study would severely damage his football future…a wise man knows when to quit

    • BearDown100393

      Marc Trestman failed horribly at yesterday’s press conference. He relayed the worst impression upon himself. I could not trust such a person personally or professionally. Emery exercised terrible judgment hiring this man to lead this team. He was evasive, shifty and flat out dishonest in response to rather standard media questions. Fire everyone.

  • huntinbare

    Getting rid of Cutler should be done only if those that hold positions of authority over player acquisitions have firmly established themselves as the executives that have the ” football chops” to be able to build a dynasty through the draft.
    If you think that George, Ted, and Phil, have done their due diligence to read into the future and know how to position their team to acquire the judged talent that is now in high school and entering the universities then maybe you give up your current project ; and assume the years of futility to draft your way towards success.
    Do they know how they want to proceed heading into the next three drafts at this point? Do they know who their quarterback of the future is at school right now? Do they know which position on defense needs the most attention when so many holes need to be filled?
    I don’t think any of them saw this day they are experiencing coming? They seem blindsided by it all and are probably overwhelmed by the possibility of a course correction that feels like alligator wrestling? One thing they have proven or the whole staff has proven. They do not make game time adjustments well. So how is the current group going to adjust to this daunting task? Leadership change before talent change please.

  • huntinbare

    If Cutler is getting benched for poor play or sabotage or insubordination; how is it that Kromer did not get flagged and penalized for equal transgressions?

    • John Doe

      He is going to get fired. What more do you want?

      Cutler got benched because they don’t want him get hurt and owe him bunch of money in 2016 as a result. The best move Bears could make was to shut him down while they try to get rid of him.

      • Big Mike

        If that’s the case why is not inactive? Clausen could go down. Your take is just one version of many possibilities.

        • John Doe

          They could make Fales active too. We know they are not telling us everything.

          • Big Mike

            Cutler was announced as the 2.

      • huntinbare

        Take away his duties for a week or two or the rest of the year. Some show of authoritative power had to be displayed. UNITY in a team sport is one of the most critical elements when trying to get players or employees to support a system. Messing with the unity in an unprofessional manner is a fireable offense. And i am one of the most longsuffering people I know; but he git off sift….letting him go would not have cost much at that point of the season; and it may have provided the neede spark from the paddles to the heart that this group needed going into New Orleans….This weeks mess is all over his shirt.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Firing him NOW would have been a start.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        give him a skirt and Pom Poms and tell him he needs to put together a group of women and lead the new group of Honey Bears.

  • Trac

    If I’m a coach and my quarterback checks into bad plays on a regular basis, refuses to address his football mechanics and then eventually throws the play book in the trash then yes, I throw him under the bus. Football used to be a sport that benefited the maturation process of young boys and men as they grew up in the school systems and collegiate level because it was a team sport that required submission to authority while forming character by encouraging young men to push their limits both physically and mentally on the field with the hopes that these virtues would carry over into the game of life. Professional football no longer represents this mindset. Let me repeat that, pro football no longer represents these virtues. It’s become a gladiator sport and like the gladiators of Rome, the mob must be entertained. If you want to blame anyone about this fiasco, blame the sport for what it has become and the fans bear a lot of the blame for allowing it to be hijacked and becoming what it is today. Lovie Smith embodied what a coach is supposed to be all about while he was in Chicago and the players loved him for it. Did he make some regrettable football decisions? Of course he did, he was only human but Lovies character was above reproach while he coached the Bears and for anyone to say otherwise has other issues going on. I’d take Lovie Smith back in a heart beat if I had the chance because he knows what the game is “supposed” to be about and to me, that’s what I loved/love about this sport. It’s pretty sad to see fans revel in chaos because it gives them something to occupy themselves with in the off season while the organization looks for a new GM and coaching staff.

    • GPLDAN

      Does this clip ever get old?

      • BearDown100393

        The Bears version would be throwing a pic-6 to lose the game. The crowd boos at Soldier Field, #6 flings his helmet at the owner’s box and challenges the crowd if it was entertained. Boos become cheers? Hell maybe.

      • Trac

        I was thinking about that scene when I mentioned gladiators. Hahaha.

    • Big Mike

      Do we “know” that he checked into bad plays on a regular basis? If he did, it would be a 1 warning event and would not have the chance to get to a “regular basis” But I don’t think we know for a fact that is what Cutler did.

      Who knows what’s going on behind the doors at Halas Hall. It’s not all on Cutler and Trestman is responsible for the environment.

      Praise to Lovie’s character and a good solid run that ran out of steam.

      I would say people are “reveling” in the chaos, but it is all that is left to talk about with regards to our favorite football team.

      • Trac

        He did last week, there’s no doubt in my mind. Prior to then he did not get thrown under the bus. Kromer made a horrible statement to the press and he apologized. Personally I’m glad he said what he said because somebody needed to. He should have had to balls to tell Jay to his face instead of trying to blame the teams woes on Jay to the media.

  • John Doe

    It makes no sense to keep Cutler.

    If they fire Trestman, it makes no sense to keep Emery and Cutler.

    If they fire Trestman and Emery, it makes no sense to keep Cutler.

    The QB is the most important position on the team. QB is the field general. There is a reason Jay Cutler was the only player to meet the 3 short-listed Head Coach candidates – Trestman, Arians, and third guy Bevell?

    No other player on the Bears – Tillman, Briggs, Marshall – met with head coaching candidates.

    ‘Defense’ did not meet with head coaching candidates. People keep saying ‘Jay is not our biggest problem’ and ‘what about defense’.

    This team was created by Emery, Trestman, and Cutler. It has failed and all 3 must go if Bears are serious about a fresh start.

    Plus, the events of the past few months have, I have no doubt in my mind, made Cutler even more bitter and negative. Why take that negativity into a new coaching relationship and a new season? Why will he trust the new coach? And why should Bears waste even one year with Cutler?

    Get a bridge QB. Let’s see what Clausen has or get Orton type. Keep developing Fales. And draft a QB ever year starting in 2015 draft.

    • CanadaBear

      “And draft a QB ever year starting in 2015 draft.” That will surely net us a super star in no time. We have the worst back 7 defense in the league, need to release the washed up hillbilly and need another DE, we need a RT and center. These are all needs. We don’t have the luxury of drafting a QB every year. If you aren’t drafting one in the first rd either you get lucky and get Wilson or Brady (this happens once every 10 years) or you end up with a bunch of nobodies that turn into nothing. Draft quality not quantity.

      • John Doe

        Bears are not going to get better by doing nothing.

        Bears are not going to get better by keeping Cutler.

        • CanadaBear

          I agree with both of those statements.

    • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

      I’m not sure it’s entirely his fault and I think Cutty does get judged a bit too harshly at times, but I’m inclined to agree. Time to cut bait.

      The sad irony is, maybe we should’ve kept Orton and those number 1 draft picks. Fucking hindsight.

      • John Doe

        A big trade for QB never works out. Never. You always end up giving too much.

        In Cutler’s case, Bears gave up too much and got mediocre production at best.

        What 2 first round picks + third round pick + Kyle Orton for Jay Cutler?
        Denver made out like bandits in that trade.

        I would have no problem with Cutler’s career had he been Bears home grown draftee i.e Bears drafted him with a first round pick. For what the Bears gave up for him, he needed to cover up several of team’s weaknesses and win them a Super Bowl.

        Same thing with Washington giving up all those picks for RGIII. It never works out giving that many picks and it sets team back for several years for giving away those picks.

        And that is why you find your own QB by drafting a QB every year. Patriots have the best model. Draft every year and trade and get some picks. Matt Cassel, Brian Hoyer, Ryan Mallet etc. etc.

        • Viva

          We also got the pick that landed us Johhny Knox.

          • BlameAngelo

            Is that a joke? Are we rating Knox as a somebody? He was a shit receiver.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          You have the luxury of wasting late round picks on shot in the dark qbs at your convenience when you hit Tom Brady. Anybody else doing that is pissing in the wind.

    • willbest

      It really depends.

      First, you aren’t getting Jameis Winston, and I don’t care what people say Mariota isn’t an NFL QB (and you aren’t getting him either). Everybody else is draft and develop. So if you don’t run with Cutler in 2015, you are going with the following tier of QB: Matt Moore, Colt McCoy, Mark Sanchez, Jake Locker, Shaun Hill, Jason Campbell, Jimmy Clausen, Brian Hoyer. None of those guys make your team better.

      Now if you can trade Cutler and run with a QB more cap friendly, that enables you to get some defensive free agents like Suh or Devin McCourty, etc. But the catch is those guys have to make it to FA in order for it to be worthwhile.

      • GPLDAN

        Bring back Vinnie!

        He’s tanned and rested. Testaverde has 2 more good years left.

        • Viva

          Footsteps Falco

      • wreckinball

        Sign Locker and draft a QB. IMO he is a second chance guy who has more upside than Clausen. . Try and get some high picks for trading Jay

      • John Doe

        Not talking about Bears drafting Mariota or Winston and know they might not get the chance either. Don’t want them if even if available.

        Garrett Grayson of CSU would be great in the second round. Although he will start shooting draft boards by the time draft happens. There are other mid to late round QBs worth a look.

        “None of those guys make your team better.”

        If you accept that Bears are in full rebuild mode, they are not contending for playoffs next year. This will require time and patience. They will need to take a few steps back before moving forward. Short cuts to ‘win now’ will not work as Emery found out.

        • willbest

          There is no such thing as rebuild mode in football. The life of players is too short. Its about finding the right group of 11 that can work as a team and a coach that knows how to get them to play as a team.

          • John Doe

            If you are not a serious contender for playoffs you are rebuilding or whatever else you prefer calling that stage of team development.

            And you cannot start contending overnight. It takes time and you need to keep drafting top talent.

            Look at Lions. They had series of top 10 or top 5 picks for years. And now they have become contenders for playoffs. Years of top 10 picks gave them Stafford, Johnson, Suh, and Fairley.

          • willbest

            Except you are always a serious contender every year. See seahawks, chiefs, 49ners, and a whole host of teams that have gone from losing season to playoff contender. Or look at a team like Dallas who spent years in purgatory and look at where they are. Or the Redskins who flashed for 1 year. Or the Cardinals who have 11 wins without a QB or a running game, and losing their best pass rusher.

            Its only organizations stuck in a perpetual state of dysfunction that don’t have a shot. If you can find something functional, no matter what it is, then you can contend.

  • wreckinball

    Don’t get all of the outrage benching Cutler. For all parties involved including Jay it’s a no brainer. I’m pretty sure Clausen will suck but that’s not the issue.

    Jay can’t go out there the next two games and same old same old. Kromer was not going to get fired because they already decided they are not firing mid season.

    They will definitely shop Jay and I don’t think a QB trade will work. Bears will have to decide how many $$s they can eat and then target a FA QB

    Jay is just not going to be an elite QB and he is rapidly being perceived as a poison . The time to deal is now.

    • BlameAngeo

      It’s simple business. We just need to maximize his cash-in value – that’s probably a first, maybe a third on top. If we shopped Forte, we could get back what he cost us. That would be a 1st, 2nd, 3rd to go with our high 1st and 2nd in the next draft. That’s some premium talent right there. We don’t need Forte on the team to win us five games. We’re either rebuilding the right way or the wrong way. 2DL, 1 LB, 1 QB, 1 S.

  • TheBigCheesy

    cutler forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Scott W.

    I have really, really struggled with Cutler as our QB. I vacillate, listen to y’all, read Jeff (the only Bears writer I read; I’m the antithesis of MB), watch games, and bitch a lot.
    I think after all these years, if Cutler isn’t getting it done, if he’s not better as our field general, then he’s got to go. He failed, Trestman failed, and Emery failed.
    I am firmly in the Fire Everyone camp.

    • Scharfinator

      Me too. Which sucks, I wanted to believe Jay was the guy. Hell I did for about 4 seasons.

  • GPLDAN

    The fish are going to shitcan Philbin, and that may mean room to grab Tannehill. For some reason that team wants to be rid of him, but I think the kid has guts.

    Who am I kidding? This team is going to be in such cap hell over the next 2-3 years we may as well tade every vet we have for picks and just go with a spunky and loveable bunch of kids on the cheap for a few years.

    • their cap situation going forward is actually very good. Cliff Stein is excellent at what he does.

      • TheBigCheesy

        is that true? Cliff Stein might be as great at his job but phil emery sucks.

        It looks like they are getting rid of Jay. That’s $15.5 Million down the drain, and Jared Allen is on the books for a $12.5 milllion next year. Then you’ve got mister sack dance coming back for 7 million and he’s doubtful to start the season. Brandon Marshall is making 10 million next year and he’ll probably be more productive than he was this year but you never know I guess. and then of course Jeffery has to get paid the big bucks this offseason.

        That’s an awful lot of money committed to an awful lot suck (excluding jeffery). Maybe you can get rid of all those guys after next year with little consequence and have a lot of room for 2016, but 2015 doesnt look so hot

        • Brandon Marshall has consistently been one of the best WRs in the NFL for 7-8 years now. One injury-plagued season doesn’t change that. He and Jeffery will be back to being a formidable duo next year if they can avoid both getting season-long injuries in week 1 again.

          Cutler’s contract was structured to make it much easier to get out of than similar deals that it was based on (Stafford, Ryan, Romo, Flacco). They’re not cutting him, he’ll be traded if he’s not on the roster, and the dead money they end up with from him will be minimal (as far as QBs go).

          Allen is cut with only $1M in dead money before March 10.

          Houston is back and will continue being a solid but unspectacular player, just like he was this year. He’s overpaid, but that’s what happens when years of shitty drafts force you to go to free agency too often. His cap hit will never go above $6.9M, and he will be cut after 2017 (when he’ll be 30, so they got him for his prime) with less than $1M in dead money.

          • and the idea that Houston is doubtful to start the season is absurd. He tore his ACL in October and should be good to go by the start of camp. Multiple NFL players have torn them in December or January and been fine by the following August.

          • TheBigCheesy

            I’m not talking about his ACL, i’m talking about his ego. You think he can honestly come back from that abject humiliation within 12 months?

          • TheBigCheesy

            seriously though, just because AP did it doesnt mean everyone can do it. Remember RGIII? He was fucked all of last year. NaVarro Bowman blew his out in january and he missed this entire season. There’s definitely a chance he can do it, but do you really expect him to be 100% in september?

          • yeah, I don’t expect it to be much of an issue. Maybe not by the start of training camp, but it will have been almost a year by the start of the season, and he’s not exactly a speed guy anyway.
            RG3’s problems have to do with the fact that he had to change the entire way he played. Not to mention his injury was worse because he got hurt and kept playing.

          • huntinbare

            Knees can heal and be serviceable in Houston%s timeframe; but the power and strenght takes 2 years. Now if he is a nut about his body, andis strong willed he could speed things up; every body is differentdifferent. But I am not expecting anything spectacular from him.

          • CanadaBear

            Are you kidding? He wasn’t that embarrassed about it when it happened. After all the BS this season that stupid celebration is barely a blip in most fans memories.

          • BlameAngelo

            Houston’s no good. He lowers the bar.

          • TheBigCheesy

            http://overthecap.com/player/jared-allen/1781/

            I think you’re getting confused by the roster bonus. 15.5 million of his contract is FULLY guaranteed. Why would jared allen sign a 1 year, 4 million dollar deal??? Cliff Stien is good, but he’s not THAT good.

          • Peanut FTW

            Allen did sign a 2 year 4 million dollar contract with an 11.5 mill bonus. That is the 15.5.

          • TheBigCheesy

            jwood is saying that if they cut him after 1 yeear, he’ll laeve chicago only taking in 4 million

          • I’m getting that straight from Dan Durkin, who’s the authority on Chicago cap stuff as far as I’m concerned.
            “$11.5M roster bonus paid on the 10th day of the 2015 league year.” It’s my understanding that is only paid if he is still on the roster.

          • TheBigCheesy

            And i understand how you would make that assumption.

            http://q.usatoday.com/2014/03/27/jared-allens-deal-with-the-bears-is-really-is-2-years-15-5m-plus-an-option/

            This article says that the roster bonus was guaranteed on April 9th 2014. So maybe he receives the bonus in march 2015, but the money was guaranteed to him as long as he was on the roster april 9 2014. That blurb on Jared Allen’s page from Overthecap explains that the 15.5 was fully guaranteed. They go read the blurb on Cutler’s page. It doesnt say 54 million fully guaranteed… it says 38 million guaranteed on April 2014. what i’m trying to say is that it is very specific as it pertains to guaranteed money

          • you might be right there. I thought the 1 year, $4M seemed too good to be true, but Durkin is always on top of this stuff.

          • TheBigCheesy

            yeah it’s confusing. they have websites dedicated to this stuff and it’s still impossible to get any clarity. I think the kicker is though if you look at the contract breakdown on spotrac as well. It says that if they would have cut him in 2014, they would have 15.5 million in dead money. That would also lead me to believe that 15.5 is guaranteed no matter what.

          • I asked Durkin on Twitter. Hopefully he responds. He’s on vacation right now, but is usually pretty good on that sort of thing. I try to do the best I can from Spotrac and OTC, but he actually reads the contracts, I think.

          • TheBigCheesy

            Yeah I assume he knows what the specifics are

    • willbest

      Bears have 40 players under contract in 2015, and will have at least 25 mil and probably more like 30-35 million. A draft class of about 6 costs you 4-7 million depending on how you want to structure the deals. So they will have at least 19 million to sign to sign an additional 5 guys. Which means they have enough for an elite D talent, somebody competent, and some league min vet guys. If they can trade Cutler, they would have enough to sign 2 elite D talent.

      That of course assumes elite talent makes it to FA. It generally doesn’t.

      • TheBigCheesy

        alshon jeffery is going to eat up $7-10 million of that

        • willbest

          That assumes they can both agree, Bears are under no obligation to negotiate with him. And in 2016 you can dump the mistake that was Jared Allen without eating 11 million in dead money.

          • BillW

            If Allen is guaranteed 2015 cap money then he’s here one more year. His talent has dropped off but he’s no distraction and still seems to have desire.

          • Allen has played well since the bye, but is clearly slowing down. Bears can cut him before March 10-the 3rd day of the league year-and avoid the $11.5M roster bonus, so his dead money would be exactly $1M. That seems likely to me.

          • willbest

            That is when the money is paid. It was guaranteed when he signed the deal.

  • BillW

    I supported Cutler all the way into this year. And even then argued that keeping him made more sense given the situation we were in.

    Then Kromer happened.

    Kromer has to own what he did obviously. But think about it – that situation doesn’t happen without Jay.

    Trestman goes on and on about how great practices are. Sounds stupid? Sure – but what is he saying? The offense works during the week, and then Jay goes out there and does what he wants.

    Biggs claims several agents of viable coaching candidates want no part of Jay.

    Jay is high maintenance. There will be life after Jay eventually. Given the distractions he causes, it probably should start now.

    • willbest

      “Biggs claims several agents of viable coaching candidates want no part of Jay.”

      This line is stupid. They will no doubt use that line to drive up the guarantees in their coaching contracts, but no OC/DC is going to turn down a HC job with the Bears unless they have an offer from somebody else.

      • wreckinball

        That was a rumor with Arians Was not that interested because of Jay

        • BillW

          It seemed like part of the hiring process was “can you work with (or fix) Jay?” That got us Trestman.

          Another reason to get rid of Jay. Making a high maintenance mediocre player such a central part of the financial and team building decisions is just a bad situation.

        • DaBearsBlog

          I heard the opposite there. Arians loves Jay. Didn’t care much for Emery.

      • BillW

        Just repeating what Biggs said. And I respect him more than any other Bears writer.

        I agree it could be a negotiating ploy. But if your highest paid player is being used against you, instead of being a chip in your favor, then that is yet another distraction.

      • John Doe

        Mike McCoy flat out told Emery he will not work with Jay Cutler. Emery dropped him from the list immediately. This is a fact. So what BillW wrote is not stupid. What Biggs reported is not stupid. It already happened. A hot shot OC did refuse to work with Jay Cutler.

        A good OC like Mike McCoy had many options and so he could be bold tell GM he will not work with QB X.

        This year’s hot OC’s for head coach gigs – Adam Gase, Darell Bevell etc. – will have multiple suitors and they will want they own QB or a QB they like/prefer.

        Now if you want a shitty OC or a desperate guy trying to become a first time NFL head coach like Trestman, then, yes they will not turn down HC job even if they have to “work” and “coach” Jay Cutler. And we know how that turns out.

        • BillW

          It’s simple – your highest paid player ought to make the job attractive, not being used against you in negotiations.

        • willbest

          Typically the only reason a team needs a head coach is because their team sucks. So all those hotshot coordinators might have their choice, but its a choice between various piles of garbage. Chicago’s pile is only particular foul to you because you happen to be standing in it.

          Plus, Chicago still has a nice allure to it. You can win a Super Bowl and then retire and live off the money you receive from a restaurant chain with you name on it, and be the pride of the city for decades. You going to get that in Jacksonville?

          • BlameAngelo

            I disagree. In ’84 we had the roster. Prime squad of dick-singing-bucks, that would only cow-tow to a bigger dick-swinger in HOFer Ditka. they would not have been coralled by the flaccid Trestman, as GP has christened him. The flaccidness of Marky Mark. The cojones and thick male member of Ditka. Neither Trest nor Emery know what a contender or a prime buck looks like in the raw.

  • GPLDAN

    Build to:

    Young – Ego – Sutton – Paea – Scott
    Bostic – Jones
    Fuller – Mundy – Vereen – McMannis – Louis-Jean – Hurst

    Release:

    Shae – Jennings – DJ Williams – Allen – Walters – Washington – Conte – Bass – Briggs

    Try and re-sign Rat but not too much.

    • TheBigCheesy

      allen is guaranteed 12.5 million

      • GPLDAN

        As John Wayne said, “fuck that cowboy, pilgrim”

      • he’s only guaranteed $1M if he’s cut before the 3rd day of the league year. So it’s gonna end up being a 1 year, $4M contract.

        • EnderWiggin

          I’d still give Allen another year in a proper/professional scheme.

          • I’d cut him and throw that $$ at a front-loaded deal for Suh, who’s better and younger, but that’s just me.
            It’s not that Allen has been bad.

          • CanadaBear

            Considering his pay check, he’s seriously under performing.

          • for $3M this year? Not really. He’s been significantly better since the bye, so I think the pneumonia really hurt him early on. And he’s just not a great matchup for the BUF-SF-NYJ run-based teams they saw before the pneumonia hit. He gets paid to bother QBs on passing downs, which he’s done moderately well after the bye, especially when you consider how hard it is to do that when the secondary lets guys open so fast.

          • CanadaBear

            He’s not a great match up with any decent OT.

          • BlameAngelo

            WTF? He’s tied 67th for sacks in the NFL this season. 67th! He’s paid to be our premier pass rusher. 4.5 sacks as the #1 guy is NOT getting it done.

          • willbest

            This year he makes 3 million and has produced like a 3 million dollar DE. Willie Young made 3 million and played like a 12 million dollar DE. Allen will make 12 million next year though. So he better have a double digit sack year next year.

          • CanadaBear

            Look at his bonus $ that’s been paid. it ain’t $3 mil.

          • Doc Hamstring

            Could the Bears get Suh? Could they get him without eating up too much cap to fix other positions?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            stop it.

          • BlameAngelo

            We need to draft our guys. The 85 team didn’t pay anyone. Tired of paying guys their retirement funds to watch them come in and under-perform. No signings, no more quick fixes, just 4 years of solid drafting after accruing as many top picks as we can. This is how it’s done. The blueprint is there.

          • Big Mike

            A year ago, I would have said Suh would come to the Bears for a chance to compete for a SB. (and enough money). Don’t know why he’d leave Detroit, unless they low ball him.

          • TheBigCheesy

            It sounds like he’s gone. Apparently he wants to play in New York or Chicago. Not necessarily for those teams I assume, but maybe he can convince the Eagles to sign him and then move the team to Queens.

          • Cormonster

            Maybe because Detroit is a shit-hole, dying city like Cleveland. Detroit suburbs are nice, though.

          • DET has some large cap issues with some big contracts they’ve been juggling. Feeling is the fact they haven’t been able to sign him yet means they won’t.

            I could see Suh doing what Mario Williams did and just taking the biggest contract.

    • John Doe

      Keep Bass and Washington. They are on cheap rookie 6th and 7th round deals and have shown flashes. Give them full chance to develop into something.

      • they’ll at least be given a shot to fight for a spot in camp. I know Washington is a pretty solid STs guy if nothing else.

    • Jennings isn’t going anywhere. Ratliff is still under contract for 1 year, $2M, but no guaranteed $$, so he could be cut.

      • huntinbare

        I listened to P-nut the other day and he admitted that everyone has bad years; and he honestly put himself in that group by talking about what he felt made up his worst year. I believe the good GMs know when to dump a player before they put together a string of terrible seasons. It may be Jennings can put together another strong year with a different DC. They all may play differently; Marrinelli would have made a difference if he had this group

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      what is this ? fantasy football for the poor?

      • GPLDAN

        Hey, have you learned who Tom Thayer is yet? It’s on the citizenship test.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          He’s a bum. He is a Bears employee and he shouldn’t say negative things about the players or the coaches.
          When he does that, guess what… the OC goes and talks with Ian HipHoppaport from NFL Network.

          I thought you’ll understand by now that any small sign of dysfunction is proof of bigger dysfunction… but I’m not surprised you didn’t.

          • Big Mike

            Just shut up. He is not a bum. I happen to be pretty good friends with Tom.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            He is the perfect example of an actual Chicago Bears employee. Second rate.

            I don’t give a shit about his personal life… he can be the greatest human on earth. He’s a bum in his profession. That’s all I care about.

          • Big Mike

            On what basis is he a bum? He’s very well informed. He is not a Bears employee he works for WBBM News Radio in Chicago. He hosts a Chicago talk show about the Bears on Sunday morning and is pretty good at what he does.

          • Cormonster

            I always try to catch the podcasts of Thayer on Mully and Hanley. He’s definitely one of the best Chicago analysts, especially in regards to OL play. Barb doesn’t know what he’s talking about obviously.

          • Big Mike

            Don’t know on what basis he’d even make that comment. Thayer was a great collegiate player, a good NFL player and has made a good life for himself after football.

          • Trac

            He dethroned Cheesy I think.

          • huntinbare

            I have learned much from listening to him discuss what makes a functioning OL. We all have bias when we break out into commentary; but I give him credit for being critical at times..I have heard it from him, even though he is a homer.

          • CanadaBear

            REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            He works for Chicago Bears Network. What a fuck are we talking about here ? He is a Bears employee… his face is on the official site.
            It seems like you guys don’t know who Tom Thayer is.

            http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/chicago-bears-network.html

          • Big Mike

            These are programs sponsored by the Bears. Bears don’t have a network. It’s a marketing term.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            He has his own section on Chicago Bears.com so the lines are getting a little blurred. I don’t really think you believe what you’re saying.
            In reality no Official Network of any Sports franchise in any sport or country is team owned.

            Thayer calling out Trestman for play calling is pathetic. Shut up and do your job.

          • Big Mike

            Barb, with all due respect shut the fuck up. Tom does not work for the Bears. Thayer calling out Trestman for play calling is in fact his job. He is a reporter/broadcaster that has played in the NFL, works hard at developing sources, studies playbooks and film and reports on the Bears.

            Every NFL team has media who are at the same time supposed to be objective, but also are lean towards being “homers”.

    • BlameAngelo

      We need CornWash and Bass for the 3-4. Trading Cutty and Forte is the only muttton we can still still as lamb.

  • wreckinball

    Not only have to draft well but have to make better FA choices. Charles Woodson would have been nice? I have to admit that I thought Allen was going to be good too though. Not a science lots of luck also

    • he’s actually done a good job in FA so far, by and large. Best of his 3 main areas (hire coaches, acquire veteran talent, acquire rookie talent), IMO

    • willbest

      Emery is more than competent at evaluating talent. I can forgive him his 2012 draft because it was his first time, he appears to have learned from it, and he was using somebody else’s research anyway. You can say Cutler, but is anybody even sure that was his decision? Who knows what Ted and George do.

      • Big Mike

        This is a key point. He did not have his scouting team and system in place until the following draft.

      • Trac

        There may be some validity to some of what you say but a GM is also tasked with assembling the “right” personalities to go along with the picks. He hasn’t done that in my opinion. I see NO team chemistry at all.

        • willbest

          The O had chemistry in 2013, its the same offense, so I don’t know how Emery could be faulted for not tinkering with it. As for the D, there is only so much you can do in 1 year. And quite frankly it probably would have worked on D if they had a halfway competent coordinator.

          Which is where Emery showed his boneheadedness. If he is still around in 8 days, I hope he has learned from his mistakes the first time.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            would have helped if they O ran the ball more and properly with Forte. Why did Dallas D look good this year because they were defending 50 plays instead of 75 plays a game.

  • GPLDAN

    Sac v Shady for the league championship. Winner gets a night with Janina Gavankar.

    Projected totals are 161 to 157. Place your bets.

    • Sactowns#1

      There is no contest .. I must break him! After this disaster of a season FF is all I have to cling to.

      • GPLDAN

        Oh!!! Who is Balboa and who is Creed?! We shall find out!

        • Sactowns#1

          There can be only one.

  • Bender McLugh

    I may have posted something similar previously…… but DONEGAL, hell yes! LOVE Donegal Town, was the very first place I had the fortune to visit in Ireland – so stunningly beautiful. Also drove down to Sligo, stopping in Rossnowlagh on the way for our anniversary and stayed at the Sand Castle Hotel where they host surfing tournaments yearly (crazy!). Sligo is also excellent, a wonderful bigger town. The best oysters I’ve ever eaten were outside Donegal at Nancy’s in Ardara……..holy CRAP were they incredible, and they arrived from the shore as we were drinking our guinnesses.

    The first night there we went back to the pub across from Olde Castle Bar – door was locked so we followed two irish ladies in and BAM, we’re in the middle of a wedding reception, full blown into it by the state of things. Live musicians playing (it’s a music bar, the owners husband & wife both play/sing) and the tune we walked in on just happened to be Living on a Prayer, Bon Jovi. What else, right?

    also, there was an upcoming sheep shearing festival, so all the sheep were giantly-fluffy, like huge cotton balls with feet and face. too damn funny.

    Good times. Nicest people on the planet. Lets go back.

    • DaBearsBlog

      Donegal is heaven. I actually always stay in Ardara.

      • Bender McLugh

        oh nice, so you know Nancy’s. Miss it, and thinking of it during times like these is always helpful.

      • Trac

        Kidney pie heaven. Uh, yeeeaah…

      • Sactowns#1

        I prefer Galway.

  • John Doe

    Michael C. Wright5m
    Jimmy Clausen and David Fales are staying after practice working w/the receivers and Forte. No Jay Cutler.

    • BearDown100393

      Probably busy filling his sleigh.

      • John Doe

        Another reason not to play Cutler at all and risk injury. No Kyle Long against Suh? Good luck.

        Adam Hoge9m

        Kyle Long popped up with a hip injury and is questionable. Tim Jennings also questionable.

        • Peanut FTW

          That matter little, they will stick Suh over Groy anyway after the way he looked last week.

          • I was shocked they didn’t throw him against Ola more last time.

          • Big Mike

            Or Garza..
            Bears.. dead.

    • Big Mike

      Why would he?

  • TheBigCheesy

    “Trestman argues Bears need more from the QB position. Has he benched a single defensive player this season?”

    Jeff, why are you paying attention to what Trestman SAYS? These are the first words you’re going to hold agaisnt him? What about:

    “we had a great week of pracatice”

    “Our locker room is in a good place right now”

    “I didn’t hear any of that. I heard a lot of it, but what I did hear of it, I didn’t hear any of that”

    “we have a team of leaders”

    He means NONE of what he says. Ever. You know damn well why he’s benching Jay Cutler. He’s trying to prove his system works when you have a coachable quarterback.

    • Trac

      I agree with the last paragraph. Come Sunday, we WILL find out.

      • willbest

        Clausen will do poorly because a) he is not very good; b) DET D is ridiculous; c) the Bears o-line is wounded.

        Won’t stop Trestman from trying

        • GPLDAN

          Let’s pull out all the stops.

          Wishbone!

          • Trac

            No GP, it’s time to shock the nation with the T formation.

          • TheBigCheesy

            Don’t you mean it’s time to “thrill the nation”?

          • Trac

            No Cheesy, the T formation would shock the nation.

          • TheBigCheesy

            i was referring to the song

          • Trac

            I know. Haha.

      • TheBigCheesy

        I think Trestman believes in his system, but I don’t know if he necessarily believes it is going to work this weekend, with Jimmy Clausen, against the Detroit front 7. However, I don’t think he really has any other choice. It’s clear he knows he’s all but fired, and Emery kind of forced trestman’s hand by distancing himself from Trestman with his comments before the game on Monday. To me, this move is almost a no brainer. He’s like a cornered animal, kicking into self-defense mode. Success with Clausen might be remote, but it’s still the only potential possibility he has to salvage his “employability”. And if even if it doesn’t work? Well, it’s a big Fuck You to Phil Emery, who threw trestman under the bus on Monday.

        I think it’s the best and only option for him, but it’s still a shitty one. It’s likely to become an even bigger circus, but it’s not like the Bears can fire him twice.

        • BlameAngelo

          I think we will be a better team under Clausen, probably not against Detroit’s line, but at least he’ll be towing the party line and we won’t be putting our fingers over our eyes when the arm goes back and you can see it’s going downtown into traffic.

    • BearDown100393

      Once a lawyer….

    • Doc Hamstring

      This is probably the most intelligent comment I’ve seen you post.

      Bravo.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        don’t give him to much credit- it’s still pretty stupid.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Lovie Smith will end up with a worst record than Schiano’s Bucs, who were a total, insane circus. He spent a huge amount of money in FA, as a bonus. The year their owner died. Lovie is a HC bum.

    About the Cutler point… people don’t understand this is the reason they didn’t franchise him. Options !!! If you’re a GM you must always have options. What would have happened if they would have franchised him… the Bears wouldn’t have had a QB in 10 days. What then ?

    Chris Conte doesn’t have an ‘immortality complex’. He just doesn’t appreciate life the way others do. He doesn’t want do hurt his loved ones, but he doesn’t really give a fuck above that. I understand the mentality.

    • Big Mike

      Lovie is not a bum HC. It was simply time for him to leave.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        He’s worst than Schiano, who made a bigger mess in Tampa last year than Trestman in Chicago this year.

        Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2013 record: 4-12
        Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2014 record: 2-12

        • Trac

          Nobody thought the bucs would be an offensive juggernaut this year but they lost their two starting DE’S at the beginning of the year who are top notch and McCoy for the first half of the season who is arguably one of the best DT’s in the NFL. And please, no more big boy nonsense. Mmmkay.

          Oh and they might get the pick of the litter come draft time. So there is that!

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            don’t give me this bullshit, please.

            DE Michael Johnson, the only top notch DE they have has played 12 games this year with 2 games left. Gerald McCoy is now on IR and played in 13 games with 2 games to go. DT Clinton McDonald has 11 games with 2 to go.

          • Trac
          • Trac

            He basically hasn’t had an OC all year because of the Tedford health issues. I’m not gonna say the results this year aren’t terrible but you have to put everything into perspective. No way can you say Lovie is a bum based on this year alone, just no way.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Ok… so he’s made the playoffs once in his last, what is it, 6 coaching seasons ?

        • Big Mike

          He turned around the Bears franchise culminating in a trip to the Super Bowl. At the time, the Bears were as adrift and messed up as they are now. Case closed. A bum HC can not do that.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            The past is the past. Maybe we can talk about the here and now.

            Mike Martz was an offensive genius 10+ years ago. He’s a big time BUM, now. He couldn’t marry his way into a OC position in 2015.

          • Big Mike

            The past is part of a Coach’s resume. He is not a bum HC. He’ll get TB pointing the right way. He’s the right coach for that team.

          • BerwynBomber

            I would agree with you BUT far as I know TB has given Lovie GM-like duties. That is a mistake. Say what we will about Angelo, but I would have trusted him more as a talent evaluator than Lovie.

          • wreckinball

            You sure the problem was Martz?

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            the offense was productive under Martz but at what cost. Martz was to stubborn with his system, and did not budge any to benefit the talent that was actually on the team. Thats why Cutler was sacked 9 times in a half. With a shit oline you have to adjust but he didn’t. So YES Martz was a problem.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            The NFL does… cause he ain’t coaching nobody.

            Martz is the dude that sent Greg Olsen packing and went with Kelen Winslow.

    • TheBigCheesy

      Options? If the Bears had franchised him, they’d have the OPTION to either:

      -Franchise him again
      -let him walk and hope another team signs him so you can get a compensatory pick in 2016
      -Extend him for less than the 18mil/per than he’s currently making

      Now the Bears have two shitty options:

      Pay him 16 million to play QB
      or
      cut his ass and eat the money

      Can they trade him? Maybe. I don’t see how they wouldn’t have to eat at least some of the money though…

  • Big Mike

    A joke to lighten the mood:

    Never question a drunk

    I was shopping at the local supermarket two people ahead of me there was a woman who had purchased the following :
    A litre of 2% milk
    A carton of eggs
    2 litres of orange juice
    A lettuce
    A Can of coffee
    A Package of bacon

    As she was unloading my items on the conveyor belt to check out, a drunk
    standing behind me watched as she placed the items in front of the
    cashier. While the cashier was ringing up the purchases, the drunk
    calmly declared, ‘She must be single.’

    The woman was a bit startled by
    this proclamation, but was intrigued by the derelict’s intuition,
    since she was indeed single.

    She looked at the six items on the belt and saw nothing particularly unusual about the items that could have tipped off the drunk to her marital status..

    Curiosity getting the better of her she said , ‘Yes you are correct. But how on earth did you know that?’

    The drunk replied candidly, ‘Cause you’re ugly.

    • BillW

      That made me laugh out loud!

      • Big Mike

        Same thing happened to me when I first saw it.

    • wreckinball

      Great never ignore the obvious

  • Sactowns#1

    What’s the over/under on screens thrown this Sunday?

    • Big Mike

      I’d set it at 5

      • beninnorcal

        I’m going with 9.

        • TheBigCheesy

          still over

      • TheBigCheesy

        over

  • wreckinball

    Clausen stinks Trestman is gone. I was unsure but now I think it’s a slam dunk Benching Jay was not Trestmans call

    Bears Emery are benching Jay to protect him It will be hard to trade him and his 20 mil salary healthy impossible injured

    • willbest

      If that were the case he wouldn’t even be active for the game. And Fales would be playing because Clausen isn’t your QB next year.

  • wreckinball

    Jay is really an odd duck. Name another QB who has his disposition. Certainly not Brees who is like the energizer bunny same with Manning same with Rodgers . Even shitty QBs like Whitehurst last night aren’t like that.

    I can’t think of anyone like him

    • BearDown100393

      Jeff George

      • TheBigCheesy

        he walked right into that one…

      • wreckinball

        Not really was an Illini and followed George He had a lot of negative energy at times but he had energy

    • Trac

      If I pay Ferrari money and end up with a Tyrrell P34 Elf, eventually the wheels will come off.

    • guest

      Rex Grossman.

  • BillW

    JWood – ever get the details on Allen contract? Emery wants to know.

  • BerwynBomber

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog “Guy I have known for 11 minutes just now at Miller’s: “How are you NOT from Chicago? Look at you.” I will live here. #2016″
    Look at you getting all chesty, Blogfather. Are you at Miller’s Pub on Wabash?
    Well, if you’re in NYC, Chicago is not a bad alternative. Closest thing to the apple’s urban energy, variety and worldliness and considerably more affordable.

  • BerwynBomber

    Thought this piece did a fine job of capturing the Cutler Era and its potential ending. Even had a nice evocative feel of “where were you when … ?” regarding the benching.

    http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/12045266/end-jay-cutler-era-much-chicago-bears-fault-quarterbacks-fault

  • BillW

    Miller’s Pub. Twin Anchors. Jeff has great taste.

    • BerwynBomber

      My bet is that like most tourists Blogfather will end up at the Viagra Triangle before the night is over.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    so how many coaching vacancies are going to be out there after the year ends.
    Chicago, San Fran, Miami?, Atlanta, NYJ, Carolina, Jacksonville?, NYG?, Oakland

    A couple of those teams are still iffy on if they get rid of the coaches, but that is still a lot of teams that are going to be looking for coaches. Unfortunately Chicago probably does not rank top of the list of most desirable locations for a coaching staff, especially with the shit show that is happening inside Halas Hall, Cutler as QB, sub-par talent across the D, and the Oline is in need of better talent. This does not leave me with much hope that we will be able to get the top choices in coaching.

    Either the Bears are going to have to fork over extra money, which they are not known for, or they are going to need to give a lot power of personnel like Belichick/Reid has, leaving Emery as more of a figure head assuming he stays.

    The main problem, there will be stiff competition for coaching talent and Chicago looks a lot less desirable of a location than most of the others.

    • BerwynBomber

      Is Miami a fait accompli? Results-wise, I don’t know if Philbin has done a horrible job down there. Would be shocked if he is retained another year. Same with Chico in Carolina.

      I sense if PE stays he will be demoted to a player personnel role. If not in title, then at least in responsibility.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        yeah i am not sure on any of them, just listed based on rumors over the past year, some will stay and there is bound to be a surprise.

        • BerwynBomber

          Gotcha. I also think the guy in JAX will get another year. He’s new and that team’s shelves were next to barren. Three wins and some Bortles development might be considered a success.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            i hate to be a debbie downer or a negative nancy or a BillW but just afraid we won’t be able to get the best coach or that coaches will refuse because of the shit show that is here.

          • BerwynBomber

            I understand. My thought is this: Harbaugh could be the ideal but even if he is a pipedream that doesn’t mean a good HC and GM can’t be found.

            Cross your fingers that McCaskey’s instincts will prove better than PE’s “smarts”. Who knows maybe Georgie is a guy incapable of out-thinking himself. That might be an advantage provided there is enough thought in the first place.

          • BillW

            Thanks for noticing me.

  • huntinbare

    Mill wheels are made for turning
    The Jay “trade rumor mill” has ground out it’s
    first seed
    Eric Ferguson of WTMX says thriugh a “source” that a trade of JC is in the works to Tennessee.
    Says “deal is real” thus the bench so no injury spoils the soup.

    • BerwynBomber

      Yeah, apparently Jay and family live in Nashville in the off-season and Whisenhunt likes him. Cutler would be an easier sell to a small market fanbase, especially one where he has college roots.

      • TheBigCheesy

        Trestman said himself the benching was his decision

        • BillW

          And he is supposedly number 2. So he’d see action if Clausen gets hurt

          • BerwynBomber

            Well, then scrap my from upper management theory. And maybe the Titans rumor.

            Btw, I don’t quite get not elevating Fales to #2 on the depth chart. Hell, maybe the
            Bears intend to keep Cutty. (Rejoice, Cheesy!)

            What a mess.

          • BillW

            I fully expected fales to be number 2. Who knows? May still happen.

          • BillW

            And John doe much earlier posted that fales stayed late with Clausen to get extra work with receivers. Maybe something is up.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            my guess is they just told him to show up then played keep away with the youngster.

          • huntinbare

            That’s not fair, but it is funny.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            probably had him running down the field also – while they yelled for him to go deep, then they walked away.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            i had older brothers if you can’t tell

          • johnnywad

            Sweet. We now have Jimmy Clausen tutoring David Fales at the position. Reminds me of the pre-Grossman/Orton depth chart. I heard they went out with Johnathan Quinn and Henry Burris for cocktails after and talked shit about Jay being a quitter with MJD. What could go wrong?

          • BerwynBomber

            Nothing. Getting rid of an average QB making $22M a year would be a smart move.

          • johnnywad

            Maybe. It seems we’re forgetting the second half of the equation. It’s likely impossible to get rid of Cutler (bad move in my opinion) and his salary. So let’s say we all agree his average. We still have to bring in somebody that’s average. What’ll he cost? $4M? $5M? I don’t know. But at that point, you’re paying a second quarterback as a middling type starter. Why not keep the one you have and just pay one of them?

            There was a time, not so very long ago, Cutler was known as a 4th quarterback. He had a huge passer rating in the 4th for two or three seasons. I’d like to believe that guy is still in there. And that guy is still a better option than a Bradford or a Sanchez in my book. I no longer have high expectations for Jay, but it seems counterproductive to throw another 4-5 Mil at the position so you’re back to $20M plus next year at the position. I’d rather just keep Jay, even if he’s average, and put that second QB salary elsewhere one more year.

    • BlameAngelo

      That’s a high, high pick. Name your position. Trade it way might be how we start the dynasty. Step one.

  • ErikGrogan
    • BerwynBomber

      More excuse-making. Yes, he is throwing from behind because the defense sucks, but he is also throwing behind because he has not moved the offense when it mattered.

      We have been over this already. And in terms of Cutler excuses, we covered them all for six years. At the end you have to consider the one constant throughout all of them: maybe Jay Cutler just isn’t that good.

    • huntinbare

      Honestly, I think Jay works best when the team he is on can run the ball and limit his oppirtunities throwing. I thought going into this year; because of our horrible D, our best chance was to run more and throw quick short passes. We needed to walk the ball down the field eating up the clock and keeping their O off the field. For me it all hinged on our ability to have great play selection for 3rd and short using our hieght at reciever to accomplish this. I had visions of 2 long scoring drives per half with a field goal. Heavy on the run with Forte and Carey…but we played into every Defenses hands with our pass first aporoach. They knew it was coming, tried to hide their schemes and then exploit. We did not adjust our approach all year and that to me was the worst part of it. If, as everybidy was claiming, that our athletes were that talented; we should have been able to adjust our style multiple times.

      • willbest

        They put together some impressive 7-8 minute drives earlier in the year. The problem is the false starts and holding penalties preclude being able to do that.

    • John Doe

      One last time for Cutler lovers and Cutler excuse makers..

      Read the article linked below:

      Gem quote:

      Around 2010-2012, when it finally became obvious to everyone with a brain that Cutler isn’t, you know, good.

      You see, unless you’re in the “business,” like me, you are probably unaware of an age-old maxim when it comes to player evaluation: “If a player hasn’t been good for many years, he will not suddenly get good.” A bit complicated, perhaps, but it’s stood the test of time.

      Jay Cutler has now played nine seasons in the NFL. He’s a few months from turning 32. Zero of those seasons ended with Jay Cutler being anywhere near an MVP conversation. In fact, most ended with this conversation: “Should we get rid of Jay Cutler?” The quarterbacks who have won the MVP in the last 10 years are Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers. Never has a season ended with their teams asking: “Does this guy suck too much for us to win with him?”

      Quarterbacks with a long track record of mediocrity don’t suddenly become great. (See that maxim I referred to above.)

      https://medium.com/the-cauldron/yeah-so-about-those-preseason-nfl-predictions-c14b292aaa74

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        see Rich Gannon. career of mediocrity then hmmm MVP, and went to the SB.

        • John Doe

          Because Rich Gannon trusted Trestman’s system and learned to play within it.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            fine see Ken Anderson mediocrity for 10 years then MVP and went to SB.
            Trestman had nothing to do with him.
            I can go on. the point is that your assertion that QBs never change is total BULLSHIT!

          • BlamAngelo

            Elway had ten mediocre years of shit stats then won 2 SBs.

          • BerwynBomber

            Elway’s stats were fine. You have to look at stats within the context of their era. Hell, stats ten years ago are not where they are today. Judging QBs from different eras on stats alone is the hallmark of ignorance.

            Elway’s stats within his era were NOT shit. You’re talking out your ass.

          • BerwynBomber

            You sound emotional. Has the Jay thing affected you this much?

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            nope – just don’t like people making unfounded statements. when they really don’t know history.

          • Qbs can change, Cutler won’t.
            Cutlers best chance is going to some run oriented, bootlegging system, but that will only keep him from being a high priced back up

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            i tend to agree with you. i just like to argue, especially when someone is so certain their view is absolute.

      • BerwynBomber

        Cutler is not that bad. But he is only average. In a given year he is anywhere from the 12th to 20th best QB in the league. On average he is about 16th. The Peyton/Brady/Rodgers comparisons are unrealistic. But he is not second-tier or maybe even third-tier depending on how many tiers one would have. What deceives people about Cutler is he doesn’t SEEM consistently average. He seems like some good mixed with some bad. But in the end, he is, indeed, average and not worth building a team around.

        • John Doe

          Greg Cossell is saying something similar (not worth building a team around) in this article. I think he nailed it.

          This is all just my sense of what has happened in Chicago, I’m not there inside the building to know what’s going on. But I think when Trestman came in he thought about Cutler, “There’s a lot to work with here. My system is precise and it gives you answers and I can make him into a better, more consistent quarterback with those answers.” It appeared as if it was trending in the right direction last year, Trestman’s first in Chicago.

          I think you can compare what has happened this year to when you’re trying to teach someone something brand new, and it takes hold for a while. Then all of a sudden it doesn’t take hold anymore because that’s not who the person is, and things get worse.

          Walsh’s offense, which is the foundation for what Trestman does, is built around precision in everything, especially for the quarterback. The drop, the footwork, everything has to be very precise. Cutler doesn’t do that, and never really has. He has never been a pure anticipation thrower or a disciplined structured player. He has immense arm talent, and likely because of that he’s a “see it, throw it” quarterback. He’ll wait until he sees a receiver come open, then throw it. That’s the antithesis of being an anticipation thrower. And his arm is good enough to make many of those throws. But he’s not a highly disciplined, nuanced quarterback, which is what is needed for Trestman’s offense to work at a high level.

          You need the right fit between quarterback and offensive system. Every offense has rhythm and timing, but Cutler might be more comfortable playing a game where he can pass the ball down the field regularly as part of the offensive system. However, Mike Martz was offensive coordinator there with his vertical philosophy in 2010 and 2011 and that wasn’t the answer either, so who knows.

          At this point Cutler will be viewed a bit as damaged goods. But he can still throw the ball and is a talented guy, and with the dearth of quality quarterbacks in the NFL I’d guess someone will trade for him, if the Bears decide to go that route. I’m wondering if Cutler should be headed for a different type of role in an offense. Always with Cutler, coaches have looked at the physical skills and thought he would be a lead quarterback to build an offense around. Maybe he’s not that guy for whatever reason. Maybe he needs to be a complementary piece in an offense built around the running back, on a team with a big-time defense, so he can be used as a play-action passer and not put the whole offense on his shoulders.

          http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/greg-cosell-s-film-review–why-jay-cutler-hasn-t-worked-out-232115184.html

          • BerwynBomber

            Screw the “might be”s and “maybe”s. At this point we know what Jay is or isn’t.

        • willbest

          Well thinking he is just going to all of a sudden be a top 5 QB is nuts, but if Mills and Slausen were healthy he probably would have put up an 8-12 performance this year.

          • BerwynBomber

            Ummm, no. Refer to JWood as needed, but if JC EVER finished top eight in QR or QBR I am guessing it was once. Again, you’re getting sucked into the trap of “Jay Cutler potential”. It has killed countless coaching careers. End of the day, he is about the 16th rated QB every year. Sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less. He is average.

            And you’re also falling back on the excuse-making. “If only everything were perfect and Bill Walsh of the modern era were his coach, Jay Cutler would be good until another flaw revealed itself and then I could find something else on his team that is not perfect enough for him to succeed.”

          • willbest

            I am not really making excuses for him if I say he needs to be surrounded by talent in order to excel. That is pretty much true about any QB not named, Brady, Rodgers, Manning, and to a lesser extent Brees and Rivers.

            You might say that any QB could excel when surrounded by talent, but that is proven wrong all over the place. See Geno Smith or anybody not named Farve who played QB for the Vikings in the AP era. These are teams with ridiculous running games, and the QBs are getting wide open receivers and still missing them.

            Jay’s problem, and this is something that won’t change, is that his football IQ is mediocre. So when he is forced (or feels like he is forced) to make quick decisions the results aren’t always optimal.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        also such a good thing those MVP QBs win the SB every year. oh wait they don’t scratch that arguement.

        the MVP award is a joke and for you to use it as part of your argument is just silly.

        • BerwynBomber

          What are you even talking about? If you want to argue for Jay, go for it. But if you want to belittle Peyton/Brady/Rodgers then find something even a tenth more intelligent than MVPs don’t win SBs every year. Good lord.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            not belittling Peyton/Brady/Rodgers just pointing that MVP is a joke, which JD is giving trying to give credence to as a factor of quantifying a QB or any player for that matter.

  • BerwynBomber

    Jimmy Butler is a 25 year old man. Derrick Rose is a 26 year old boy.

    • huntinbare

      Something special…coming out of Marquette and landing with Tibs Bulls has been an asset for his career. He honed his D; tutored by Deng; and willing to put in the time to polish his shot. Having to guard so mant talented offensive players has also taught him a bunch about how to score. All his dedication is going to pay off at the end of this year. One of my favorite Chicago athletes. And he doesn’t want to be a star.

      • BerwynBomber

        Totally agree. One of my faves, if not my #1 fave. He’s such a working-class badass. And whether he likes it or not, he’s becoming a star. The team is becoming his.

        • huntinbare

          Another suprise is rising to the surface and forcing Tibs out of his crusty ways when dealing with “rookies”…Nikola Mirotic….I know this is supposed to be football…but the United Center crowd needs to start shouting his name NIKOLA; like the lederhosen boys on the Ricola commercials.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, he’s a keeper and Gasol has been an absolute revelation. He is proving to me he is a future HoFer.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            If he’s future HoFer, how can he be a revelation ? That’s self indictment…

          • BearDown100393

            Not really. The Bears could have been bringing aboard an old Gasol instead of the Gasol of old. He’s playing terrific and showing longevity, making a HOF discussion interesting.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            He’s been a HOF lock for years now. Pau Gasol is a great player and the only risk about him was/is health. His play while healthy can’t ever be a revelation.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Mirotic isn’t a rookie. He’s a superstar in his first year in North America. There’s a big difference and Tibs never had to deal with such a situation, so there really aren’t any ‘ways’ you can point out, crusty or otherwise.

          • huntinbare

            You need not take that as a poke at Tibs…a bit of sarcasm and good natured fun….”rookies”..was a reference to the fact that he had a professional career in Europe…a great majority of the time I will hide meaning, so you might want to use imagination and look beneath what I post…I am not everyones cup of tea and certainly do not believe I am in any way that I am in the know…you are probably much better equiped to offer intelligent commentary…I come for the fun of it all and should not be taken as a serious dissector …mostly just try to make people smile…

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I don’t like attempts of making fun based of cliches, especially false ones. Or unsubstantiated ones.
            Hey… if you want to talk ball, let’s talk ball.

          • huntinbare

            Sorry to annoy you; if you want take a pole and if the vote to kick me off the ” ship of fools” comes in as a…make him walk the plank…I will walk…if you aren’t a pollster then do not bother wasting your time reading when you see my face…remember language for me is a game…I do not take it seriously…it is just a map and I prefer territory over maps…be well, happy, and enjoy your holidays.

          • johnnywad

            He’s an asshole Hunti. Don’t go on his account.

          • huntinbare

            Thanks johnny, I can’t rally leave now….this is getting way too interesting…it should be a bang up offseason…

        • Big Mike

          He’s going to cost some bank to keep. I keep hoping Rose will get there. The good news is he’ll be fresh later in the season. He was starting to look about 85% of his old self, then the “illness”. Bulls have played less than 5 games with full roster. Defense is softer than last year, but it needs some time to gel. Combine that with more scoring options and they might get to the finals.

  • anth6

    The BEARS NEED to keep CUTLER…and. trestman ..fire the piece of sh..! Off. Cord. And. Fire suck ass def.cord. hire mike singletary. For defence..call urlacher..draft ..all defence…and off. Line..a QB.cant. throw laying on his back. Wake up america…holly smokes 7 sacks one game that happends to much bears avr. 3 sacks on them a game. Cutler has maybe half a second to throw it…KEEP CUTLER…

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      lolololol!!!

      • BerwynBomber

        Waffle’s kid?

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          keeping Cutler would not bother me. Trestman has to go, not sure why he wants to call Urlacher

          • BerwynBomber

            The ONLY way I could see keeping Cutler is if they immediately begin looking toward the future at that position; in other words, draft a kid or even commit to developing Fales; Cutler as a bridge but bridge only. We simply can’t go into self-denial again about Jay being a franchise QB or that he just needs ___________ (plug in the latest excuse). Over a half-decade of that is enough.

          • willbest

            My thought is he wants Urlacher to be an LB coach

    • BillW

      Well said

      • BillW

        Just joking. Welcome. From Canada or. UK? (from the way you spell. “defence”)

  • AlbertInTucson

    With Cutler named as the #2 for Sunday, I make it even money Clausen gets knocked out of the game.

    • Big Mike

      More evidence that they aren’t trying to protect him from injury. Fales is also inactive.

      • BillW

        However that could change by the roster deadline tomorrow. Nothing at this point would surprise me

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    I’d like to go back to the best stat I’ve heard all year long:

    The New England Patriots have won 74 consecutive games when leading into the half.

    Last loss is from 2000, Bill Belichick’s first year in charge.

    • BlameAngelo

      We fucking hate the Pats Barb, because WE’RE Bears Fans.

      Patriots ….. we don’t like. Belichick … to us … is just a fat guy in a hoodie. To you …. he’s Ditka. We get that.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        You can’t ‘hate’ the Pats and draft Gronk in your fantasy league, like I’m sure you do.
        I mean, is there such a thing as hate in american sports ?

        All that being said if Belichick for you is just a fat guy in a hoodie, you deserve yourself the slim guy in a hoodie we have right now. You know what I’m saying ?
        Got to study the best in order to become the best. You ain’t getting there by having Ditka as your main reference.

  • Big Mike

    More on why Cutler stays…
    Several NFL executives believe that it’s possible for Bears QB Jay
    Cutler to go from being benched to becoming a first-scenario, test-case
    trade. Never before has a team trading a player also had to give up
    drat-pick compensation to get rid of him. But some NFL executives
    believe that with any team having to absorb $25.5 million worth of
    guarantees in Cutler’s contract, the Bears might have to package a
    decent draft pick to get another team to take him. NFL rules dictate
    that nominal compensation must be
    exchanged between teams, but it could mean another team surrendering a
    late-round pick to Chicago for Cutler and a better pick. Such a scenario
    could enrage Bears fans, but to get a team to take on so much
    guaranteed money that could be used on valuable free agents and contract
    extensions, the Bears just might have to compensate a team with more
    than Cutler to do it.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      General rule: The majority of the NFL executives are incompetent morons.

      Of course these motherfuckers would love to have Cutler and get picks instead of giving up picks.

      Most of these losers are the same ones that were saying ‘Belichick will dump Brady soon, why not ?’ They were having no touch orgasms at the thought of getting their hands of such a price.

      Truth is, if the Bears will want to trade Cutler the price would be significant in the form of multiple picks and some high ones.

      • Big Mike

        I guess they should call you for advice. I was just adding evidence to the case that Cutler stays. Take it down a notch

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          First of all…why would I take it down a notch when we’re talking about anti Bears stupid articles ?

          Second of all… this isn’t evidence of anything, if not that there is a market for Cutler and dudes are trying to lower the asking price.

          Third of all… are there really people that are buying this stupid shit ? I guess there are. We ain’t on this blog… cause we aren’t morons.

          • GPLDAN

            Barb doesn’t have notches.

          • BearDown100393

            We ain’t morons ain’t we?

          • Big Mike

            It’s not anti-bears, it is just information that is out there. The market will prove itself out. I simply pointed out a piece of information. My opinion is I suspect Cutler stays. There is plenty of evidence to the contrary, including the piece of information that got out last week that said the bears are on the hook for $10million for 2016 f he’s on the Roster on March 3rd (not positive on date, I recall it was the 3rd day of the new season). So if they cut or trade before that date, they are on the hook for $15m less anything he gets paid by the new team. (offset provision).

            So the point is I was bringing a piece of information that was sourced to an NFL Executive and you just decided based on your expertise that NFL Executives are morons. Which is fine as an opinion. But as a statement of fact, it is silly.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            No.. look… that’s the base…the majority if the NFL GMs and Executives are clueless and incompetent. That is the starting point of every conversation about the NFL.

            The article is anti Bears because if offends me and it’s fantasy bullshit. It’s manufactured manure thrown at the Chicago Bears franchise. That pisses me off.

            All those numbers aren’t new, they’re well known. I’ve known them for months now. The article has nothing to do with these numbers. They go towards lowering the potential asking price for Cutler.

            What you posted there is not information, it’s propaganda. My comments never ‘attacked’ you for posting such an article, you were useful, but the article and the article’s intent.

          • johnnywad

            “NFL executives and GMs are clueless and incompetent……”. This reminds me of the time you were out bashing the ” Vegas morons” right before you convinced everybody on the blog that they should bet their life savings on the Patriots over the Packers. You remember that? What’d you lose on that game anyway? How many goats make an American dollar?

            You know, most any NFL GM makes more money than the Romanian GDP. If one were to move there, with his massive skill set, he would run the place in about a day. But he wouldn’t, because he holds one of the best jobs on the planet, making more money in a year than you will in a lifetime. Stop pretending to be the smartest guy on the internet and just move to Boston already. Maybe you can get a job working the grounds at Bill or Tom’s place and catch a selphie with them to send back to the village.

            I can’t fucking stand people that consistently present themselves as smarter than everybody.

          • BearDown100393

            Jay Feely probably makes more money than the Romanian GDP.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I know meth is cheap in your all caucazian suburb, but even you must know there is no such thing as value behind the american dollar. That’s why it’s called debt.

            By the way, stop killing black dudes in the street. I know you can’t resist the urge, but it’s not their fault your women want them.

          • Trac

            Simmer down and eat some Toba.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I plan on eating some pussy tonight or in the early morning.

    • no fucking way Bears will get at least a 2nd, probably a conditional pick on top of that if they decide to trade Cutler. I’m calling BS on this having to give up a pick to get rid of him crap.

      • BillW

        That would be great but I think it would take multiple teams with a serious interest. And maybe there will be

      • Big Mike

        I don’t buy it either. I was shocked when I saw it. My opinion on keep/trade/cut Cutler is “it depends”. If you need to replace your avatar next season and that coach has a guy in mind who we can get, plus we get some $/cap relief and a pick I’d be jumping for joy at that move.

      • Lol that would be on cutlers tombstone:
        Can’t even give him away

      • BerwynBomber

        Tend to agree. Too many teams need a QB and Cutler is by far the most talented guy available. I don’t know about a second though.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          Jets GM is an idiot – maybe we can convince him to give of a couple firsts and a 2nd.

  • GPLDAN

    Guy I have known for 11 minutes just now at Miller’s: “How are you NOT from Chicago? Look at you.” I will live here. #2016

    You do look like a Chicagoan Jeff. Congrats on your decision to move to the Windy City in ’16.

  • GPLDAN

    With Long out, Clausen is a dead man walking.

    I should imagine that if he goes down, you will get your Fales wish.

    • CanadaBear

      I just read this morning that Cutler was #2 and Fales won’t be active.

      • GPLDAN

        If that’s the case, then expect Jay to play the 2nd half.

        • CanadaBear

          No kidding. Is Long out for sure?

          • GPLDAN

            I need to check.

      • BerwynBomber

        That sucks.

    • Big Mike

      He’s listed as questionable

    • Clausen will get rid of the ball quickly like a qb is supposed to in the wco. But yeah, Suh would be a major disruption

  • GPLDAN

    I think North Korea offering to find the “real hackers” is a bit like OJ saying he would dedicate his life to finding the real killer.

    • Viva

      Fuck Un.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        uh-oh…. if we don’t hear from you again we will know what happened.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      I’d like to see a Sony movie about the Sony Hackers. It’s coming.

      • BearDown100393

        I think you are 100% right. A Michael Mann production in the works. A bullshit threat to crank out a movie about a movie.

    • BillW

      A headline I saw said Obama thought Sony made the wrong decision. Without politics or emotions I think he is wrong. If even one theater was attacked and only one person killed Sony would of course feel responsible. Morally that would be tough. Economically that would be disaster. Completely rational reaction by Sony

      Besides the movie supposedly sucked

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I would have loved to see Act 2.

    • Hey, oj had to take time off the golf course for that search. True sacrifice in the name of justice

  • BillW

    Jeff: Have a great time at your tailgate and at the game tomorrow!

    • Viva

      What game?

      • BearDown100393

        “Jimi Thing”

        • Cormonster

          I love the version of that song with Warren Haynes in Central Park. Bad ass.

  • BerwynBomber

    Horrendous rouging the passer call on the Iggles.

    For all the pre-season talk of PI being over-officiated it is really these roughing the passer calls that need reviewed at the end of the year. Protecting the QBs is understandable but some of these calls are ludicrous.

    • Doc Hamstring

      The one against SF that gave Seattle another 3 tries at the end zone was not only ridiculous, but changed the outcome of the game. And, given the playoff race, could’ve put Seattle into the playoffs.

  • Trac

    Cutler to the Fins for Tannehill and a 3rd rounder? Intriguing thought.

    • BerwynBomber

      Miami would make that trade? I would be shocked.

    • Haha we could give them a first, Cutler, a lifetime pass to the star wars museum, and they still wouldn’t take it

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, I would be surprised if Miami would trade Tannenhill straight up for Cutty, let alone toss us a draft pick.

  • Deadskins pulling an upset. Moves us up a spot in the draft perhaps

    • BerwynBomber

      They’re still a game behind us.

    • Big Mike

      Not possible. No impact at all

  • BerwynBomber

    So it sounds like any team picking up Cutler in a trade will have to pay him $22M. If that is correct and said team then has him on a two year contract, Bears should have no problem moving him. Cutler at $11M a year is actually fair market value given his productivity and current QB salaries. Of course in reality, Cutty will be banking $19M per but we will be picking up roughly half the tab.

    • I don’t think cuttys contract is as prohibitive as originally thought. I also don’t see us reaping anything higher than a 3rd.
      An interesting scenario would be if we throw Cutler to the 9ers in exchange for kap and harbs. We still bring in a qb to compete w him,

      • BerwynBomber

        Agreed. If I am getting the numbers right (no sure thing), then Schefter’s claim that Bears would have to sweeten the deal sounds like nonsense. If anything there might be a couple/few suitors who will have to sweeten their own deals to get him.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          No shit !?

  • Big Mike

    Yeah let’s get Sanchez. SMH

    • BerwynBomber

      Look on the bright side. That INT will keep his salary down. Plus, almost any QB we get in the off-season will not be an upgrade. He will be a bridge. And considerably cheaper than Cutty, which means you have more money to address the D.

    • He’s a turnover machine like Cutler, but at least he’s cheap, unlike Cutler.
      Unfortunately, we’ll have to go with a subpar qb next season no matter, unless Clausen, Fales come on

      • BerwynBomber

        Yep, at this point there is not a huge difference between Cutty and Sanchize except that Cutty cost TEN TIMES as much.

      • Big Mike

        Not 100% sold that cutler is gone

        • So why bench him? To preserve him for next season?

          • Trac

            Jockeying for draft picks?

          • Big Mike

            To make a point, save your job. Not sure. Just saying I’m not 100# sure

          • Big Mike

            Showcase Clausen? Wait he’s on a 1 year deal.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            I think he got benched because Trestman hopes Clausen will play somewhat successful so Tresty can go to his next interview saying “It wasn’t me” i can make any crappy QB that is willing to work with me look good. Trestman knows he is fired after the season, and he hopes he can salvage his “QB Whisperer” status.

          • BerwynBomber

            I can’t see that. It’s too much of a gamble. Clausen in all probability will suck. If Trestman is thinking what you claim, the smarter move would be to play Cutler the final two games and use the Cutler excuse and compare it to McCown’s ’13 productivity. Either way, I’m not sure Tresty immediately lands another OC gig. That hasn’t been the history of guys who worked with Cutty.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            I don’t think he would get an OC job either, but a QB coach position would not be out of the realm of possibility.

        • Scott W.

          Let me wander out past left field here for a sec…
          What if at some point, we learn Cutler’s vision has been degraded by his diabetes?
          What if down the road, it turns out he had some major health problem he wasn’t disclosing. He wouldn’t be the first Bear to keep a health problem under wraps.
          I didn’t get truly disgusted with him until this season. He had everything but a defense (or a good head coach/OC?) this year.
          He had Forte, the best fucking back we’ve had for years, Long, Receivers that are a QB’S wet dream, and a GM that genuflected to him.
          What the HELL went wrong???
          The mystery is so – well hell – mysterious, that I am at a complete loss, other than to join the lynch mob.
          Who IS Jay Cutler?
          No one has ever, to my knowledge, answered that unequivocally. Lots of speculation, but never THE answer.
          WTF happened?

          • BerwynBomber

            I don’t quite understand your point. Did you think he was special before this season? Did this season of Cutty play look all the that different from past seasons? I guess he regressed a little but not that dramatically. He has always averaged more than 1 INT per game throughout his career. Remember, he tossed 26 INTs his first season here.

            In terms of the offense as a whole, I would point toward Cutty’s play, Marshall being a bit dinged, the O-line suffering a couple of injuries and the league catching up to Tresty’s O or Tresty not having the right guy to run it.

          • Scott W.

            Before, delusional though I may have been, I blamed a poor o-line, bad game plans, bad coaches, etc. etc.
            All that has been fixed, sort of.
            Everyone LOVED that we landed Cutler way back when. He had the arm, the game, the gunslinger mentality. He was the second coming.
            What the hell happened? Why is he even still here?
            Why can’t he do the job?

          • BerwynBomber

            Looks like the same Jay to me. The only thing that surprised me was his and the O’s inability to move the offense when it mattered. But that expectation was more about Trestman’s O last year than Cutty’s history of productivity.

          • Scott W.

            All the time, the money, the focus…
            for one of the worst teams in the NFL.

          • Big Mike

            His implosion this year is inexplicable. But still Trestman has to go. I’d love for jay to stick around and nail it next year. N

          • combo of things:

            1) injuries to OL and WRs screwed the entire offense
            2) Shitty coaching screwed all 3 phases
            3) He’s had a few poor games, but really nothing unexpected from him.

          • johnnywad

            I felt very early in the season that he looked considerably less accurate than past seasons. I too have kinda been wondering if there isn’t more to it.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I have often wondered if there was a health issue buried somewhere in this pile of doo.

          • huntinbare

            You have to hope that as a diabetic, with all the medical science on the chemistry of nutrition that Jay would have had a personal chef feeding him a very specific diet to maintain his sugar level . If you look at some closeups of his face and eyes there were times he looks out of it. ….especially with all the $ at his disposal…
            I remember when Ron Santo was injecting to maintain his blood sugar level and the stories first broke in the press. He was a pioneer for the diabetes foundstion. The disease finally cost him dearly at the end of his life; chipping away at him through amputations. He played at a high level and kept his spirits high through it alk.

  • Big Mike

    I do think the Eagles loss clinches a playoff berth for the Lions

  • BerwynBomber

    Helluva run by Gore combined with crap tackling by the Bolts.

  • BerwynBomber

    Rivers completely crapping the bed here. SD about to be eliminated from any post-season hopes.

    • BearDown100393

      Tied with 16 seconds left on the clock.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yep, Rivers has three picks. Gore has rushed for over 150 yards. Kap has a 90 yard TD run. Yet here we are: tied.

        Gotta give it to Rivers. Dude’s a fighter.

  • BearDown100393

    For a new stadium, that turf looks terrible.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I believe that have re-sodded four times this season.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Sometimes, you can get spoiled by success,” Dungy said. “Nine-, 10-, 11-win seasons, but you didn’t win the Super Bowl, so that’s unacceptable, you have to strive for more.”

    Ah yes, Tony Dungy. The man who would have taken RGIII over Andrew Luck in the draft. You notice Tony conveniently didn’t mention the bag-up job Lovie’s doing in Tampa or how Smith and his staff handed Dungy’s Colts a Super Bowl on a platter.

    • BearDown100393

      Dungy is entitled to his non-credible opinions.

  • BerwynBomber

    Can’t believe SD has comeback to tie this game.

  • BearDown100393

    Emery logic: Team that loses in OT tonight will make an offer that includes the QB.

  • huntinbare

    That diving catch by Royal for the first down; with the DB draped all over him and just missing getting his hand on the ball was a thing of beauty…one of the best catches with the playoffs on the line…

  • BearDown100393

    The dumpster is blazing tonight in San Fran. Be careful walking to the parking lot if wearing khakis.

    • huntinbare

      Amazing how there season went in that brand new stadium…

  • Jack Lacan

    Well, as Seinfeld said, “that was something”…

  • Jack Lacan

    Joe Buck is a moron —- “it’s been a long time since the Lions have won in Green Bay…or in the state of Wisconsin…” —that would be where Joe? — Milwaukee, Racine, Brown Deer Road, Florence???…you imbecile…

  • Jack Lacan

    Another officiating glory in the NFL…

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