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Around the League Tweets – March 13th 2013!

| March 13th, 2014

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Around the League Tweets, Free Agency Ya Next Tuesday! 1 of 10. Aren’t the Oakland Raiders lucky the Cleveland Browns exist?

2 of 10. Can’t imagine Darren Sproles would have chosen Philly as an FA. Doubtful he wanted a team with a more dynamic, faster back.

3 of 10. One of my biggest surprises: Andy Reid letting Dexter McCluster leave KC w/out a fight. Struck me as pivotal weapon for Chiefs.

4 of 10. Harbaugh acquiring Blaine Gabbert & Jonathan Martin is him sending message: I can get to NFC title game w/the worst players in NFL.

5 of 10. There’s only player outside a Chicago Bears uniform I pull for to win Super Bowl: Steve Smith. Pound for pound best player in NFL.

6 of 10. If Rams were so willing to pay Saffold, why’d they let him go make that deal with Oakland in 1st place? Seems strange, doesn’t it?

7 of 10. Matt Flynn may get the pub but Charlie Whitehurst continues to sign multi-million dollar contracts to play a position he stinks at.

8 of 10. Was in Jax when Chad Henne re-signed & local news declared Jags no longer interested in 1st rd QB due to it. They were serious.

9 of 10. Could anyone have predicted two years ago that Hakeem Nicks would enter free agency with less buzz than Eric Decker, James Jones…

10 of 10. Would Ward, Talib & Ware have blocked the Seahawks front in the Super Bowl? If not, how do these moves put them over the top?

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  • MB30SD

    No one? Bueller?

    • johnnywad

      Something’s broken. I have several posts from today that vanished. Unless I’m being censored…… Irish?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Sshhhhhhhhshh !

        BTW – can we have a button to bring us directly to the last post please? It’s a pain in the bullets having to drill down through all the posts on a long thread ….

    • Shady

      Meh.

      • MB30SD

        Load up bitch. Coming online in 30ish

    • tobijohn

      Remember the scene towards the end of the movie where he’s running behind his father’s car, trying to beat him home? That was the street I lived on. And the garden he went crashing through right after that was our next door neighbor’s. I wasn’t living at home at the time but one of my younger brothers was and told me how the film crew rang the doorbell at 6am to ask if it was OK to set up their gear in our yard…

      • MB30SD

        nice, so you pretty much know Ferris. Excellent

        • tobijohn

          Years ago, I worked for the guy who owned the house they used for the movie Ordinary People. He said even though they were filming there for months, he never got used to coming downstairs in the morning and seeing Robert Redford and his wife in her bathrobe, sitting at the kitchen table drinking coffee and reading the paper…

          • Irish Sweetness

            His wife, or Redford’s wife ? If it was his wife, then I don’t they were reading the paper five minutes beforehand.

          • tobijohn

            His wife, I edited the original to make it a bit clearer…

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Jennifer Grey was quietly appealing to my juvenile stirrings ….

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    They have to get to the Super Bowl first… Denver. The Patriots will be much better this year. Also their pickups are all for 3+ years… after Peyton. Gives you a bright future and so it gives you less pressure to win now.

    • DaBearsBlog

      Why are the Patriots going to better on offense?

      • NewBearInTown

        Bellichek tends to do okay for himself in the draft.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Because they had Gronk, Vollmer, Vereen injured and started 3 rookies who where not ready by any means They will be next season. Also they where not prepared to deal with the Hernedez ‘loss’. You can say those 3 big time starters are injury prone, but they had no depth behind them.They will make sure that’s not the case this year. Also…the D is going to be waaay better. That helps the Offense a lot with turnovers, field position and controlling the score and tempo. PS: Remember… they made it to the finals in a year where normal teams would fail without style. That’s mental toughness. Revis is a statement. If there is someone who can use him just as, or better then Rex Ryan is Belichick. They could be a Seattle type of D, so the O could play at a Top 15 level and still win. They’ll be better than Top 15.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Dumervil, Ware, Von the mon Miller, Talib, Ward … wow. With the all-time single season TD passing record holder on O … defense wins Champs, and they have one now.

  • IBNO

    Jonathan Martin is not one of the worst players in the NFL.

    I see the message Harbaugh is sending by getting Martin as: “Hey, I coached this guy at Stanford, and I know how to not treat him like crap.”

  • BerwynBomber

    Given what we are hearing about the GM/HC strife in SF I would not assume Harbaugh green-lighted the Gabbert deal. That said, if he can make something out of him (after what he’s done for A. Smith and Kapenick) then he is a true miracle worker of QBs.

  • Doc Nitty

    Sign Peanut

    • tobijohn

      I feel a bit better he left Tampa Bay without a contract….

      • NewBearInTown

        Where’s that news story? I’ve been looking for that all day.

        • tobijohn

          I’ll try to dig it up. I was just hopping around and came across it…

        • tobijohn
          • NewBearInTown

            So Peanut can’t get the contract he wants from Lovie either. Its not a good year for him unfortunately, there are a lot of solid free agent cornerbacks on the market.
            He could go to Oakland or Cleveland and try to get a big offer, but somehow I doubt he’d want that.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Peanut comes home to the family …”we’re moving to … Cleveland.”

            Yeah, right.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I saw that video and story .. Henry Melton is not a high quality character … and I know that’s not necessarily relevant in the NFL. But I just don’t like him and he’s another Tank Johnson waiting to happen. That we can’t now afford him is another issue.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Hi Doc!
      How do we sign Peanut AND the draft class … on 7M cap space though? Did I miss something?

    • Shady

      They did!

  • MB30SD
  • Trac

    #5 Is silly. Great player but I get the hyperbole.

    Is anything that has to do with Jacksonville, Cleveland or Oakland news worthy?

    I’d root for one player that isn’t a Bear to win the Superbowl:
    Josh McCown

    Who would you pick MB? He he

    • MB30SD

      out of those three? plus tampa?

      I’d like josh to have a solid season, but other parts of lovie’s scheme tank. I def expect them to lose to Atlanta twice a year every year for as long as lovie is HC.

      SMFH.

    • CanadaBear

      #5 is stupid. Smith Sunday punched a teammate and went psycho. He was a great WR and tough as nails but he certainly isn’t someone that I would cheer for (unless he was playing for the Beloved).

  • MB30SD

    tuck to the raidahs

    • Irish Sweetness

      The Raiders are unbelievable. It’s like Welfare for the washed-up.

  • NewBearInTown

    I see three starting quality cornerbacks on the market right now. Peanut, Antonio Cromartie and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie. I list them in the order I’d want to sign them, but the Bears would do well do get at least one of them.

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      I feel like Peanut is coming back. He left Tampa without a deal. I know he loves Lovie but he is a Bear. His family, charity, biz interests are all here. The Bears will offer him a good deal. If he doesn’t bit we need to bring in a vet corner to compete for the starting job against Bowman.

    • Johnathan Wood

      Here’s what I think happens:
      1) They re-sign Peanut. This is Emery’s first choice, but he has a set price he’s waiting for Tillman to agree to. Tillman knows this price, and is seeing if he can get something better on the market. He left TB without a contract offer, supposedly, which makes it likely he is back, IMO.
      2) If Tillman doesn’t re-sign, Bowman will be back within the hour.

      Either way they’re drafting a rookie at some point in the first four rounds.

    • Shady

      Brandon Browner would be nice.

      • MB30SD

        guy’s a cheater.

        • Shady

          That’s just what the haters call him, the truth is he’s a 6’4″ monster DB with shutdown corner skrills.

          • MB30SD

            yes. Not a hater, but need the dude on the field maings, not in the NFL pokey.

            Oh, and your clan sucks.

          • Irish Sweetness

            6’4 !!!!!!! Sign that fucker already!

  • MB30SD

    fucking shady. Your. Clan. Sucks.

    smh

  • Johnathan Wood

    So I was doing a little digging on spotrac.com (cap management website) and found just how much better Chicago’s cap looks after this year.

    For next year, they currently have $86M allotted to the cap. Add in this years’ rookies, that’s about $6-7M. Next years’ rookies, another $5M. Then re-sign Marshall and extend Jeffery, we’ll say $10M each, you’re looking at between $115-120M.

    The only players of note that will be FA at that point are Briggs, Garza, Williams, Conte. Briggs will be gone, the others are cheap and/or eminently replaceable.

    Bottom line? The cap looks GREAT going forward after this year. Should be able to keep all of their own and add 2-3 good guys in FA if needed without any problems.

    Emery is biting the bullet this year with cuts (about $13M in dead money) and frontloading CUtler’s contract. That’s essentially $20M on this years’ cap that they’re not getting anything for this year, but it pays off beginning in 2015.

    So while I think the 2014 team should be competitive for the playoffs, it’s 2015 and beyond when we really see just how good Emery can get them.

    • Johnathan Wood

      of course, that also means the best players currently under contract for defense in 2015 are Jennings, Houston, and… Ratliff? Young? That’s really it outside of the guys on rookie deals who haven’t shown anything yet (Bostic, Greene, Bass, Washington, Frey, McClellin, whoever gets drafted this year).

      They really need some good young defenders. I expect he’ll add another 2 guys on defense in FA next year. Good solid players like Houston. The offense should still be set for starters (everybody but Garza under contract once Marshall re-ups), though he should be able to look at a more balanced draft in 2015 (draft Forte’s replacement, a mid-level pick on a TE, better OL depth, etc.).

      • MB30SD

        nice. well done.

      • CanadaBear

        I hope PE redeems himself when drafting D. To me that’s been his achilles heel.

        • MB30SD

          not a fair shake yet canada. You and I have a little fake bet going. I think he’s going to knock it out of the park this year.

          Gotta give him this year maings.

          Any ideas about lovie’s draft?

        • Johnathan Wood

          he drafted 4 defensive players year 1 and went 1/4 (Frey hit, McClellin/McCoy/Hardin missed).

          Last year drafted 4 as well (if you count Bass). None hit as rookies, but neither did Frey. We’ll see how they develop.

          But his best picks so far all seem to be offense. Need to even that out. His comments this offseason seem to indicate that he’s at least learned something from his mistakes (aka draft guys for their position, don’t try to change it).

          Another thing to consider: he’s known for 2 years the Tampa 2 was going away as Urlacher, Briggs, et al aged out. He’s been drafting guys accordingly, and this will be 1st year with the defense he wants in place. I wonder if/how that affects the picks he makes (and how good the picks he already made look).

          • MB30SD

            exactly. this year will tell us a lot.

          • Irish Sweetness

            C’mon. Every team in the NFL plays Cover 2 at some point, it’s just a formation, it’s not a philosophy. And it was really the Chicago 2, because Brian dropped a little deeper.

          • George Hernandez

            Alshon didn’t hit in year one either…food for thought.

          • SC Dave

            Yeah, but Alshon was pretty close to a sure thing. I was very happy when they drafted him. Of course, I had the advantage of watching him play SEC ball at USC.

      • EnderWiggin

        Who’d have thought that out of all those young guys you have in parentheses – Frey has (to me) showed the most promise. I was upset when we parted ways with DJ Moore. Not so much now, though. That’s why the fake bet between MB and Canada is so intriguing – maybe Phil can find some young defenders.

        • Johnathan Wood

          he pretty much has to. That’s how you land the studs to build your team around, for the most part. Offense has Forte/Jeffery. Defense has Briggs, but he’s ancient and not quite what he once was.

          Can’t count on getting guys like Marshall, Peppers, Cutler in FA/trades consistently. Can find good solid players in FA (Bushrod, Bennett, Houston types), but you generally need the top-level studs from the draft.

          They need an Urlacher, Briggs, Tillman type player on defense from this draft, and there’s really no way around it.

          • EnderWiggin

            Oh sure, that always happens for clubs. lol

          • Johnathan Wood

            I think Donald is that level of player. I look at him and see Geno Atkins.

            That’s a guy you surround with solid parts and have a badass DL. Houston can be the 2nd best player on a badass DL, IMO. Donald can be the best.

          • EnderWiggin

            I hope you are right. We really do need someone like Atkins or Briggs or Peanut.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Geno Atkins … minus 20lbs … isn’t Geno Atkins .. .it’s just some guy getting blown backwards IMHO. It’s basic Newtonian physics and nothing to do with opinion.

      • NewBearInTown

        Well done indeed.
        In 2015, we have no starter under contract at the following positions:
        Center (Garza a FA)
        #1 WR (Marshall a FA, Jeffery under contract)
        #3 WR (Unless Marquess Wilson steps up)
        #2 TE
        #3 DE (pass rush specialist, missing this year too)
        3 Tech DT (missing this year too)
        #3 DT (Ratliff only guy right now)
        WLB (Briggs a FA – though several current players could slide over e.g. Greene)
        ILB (Bostic moved outside, Williams a FA)
        #2 CB (missing this year too, Jennings is #1)
        Depending on signings, we’ll likely have a couple more defensive players on the roster eating cap space before the 2015 off-season. JWood assumes we re-up Jeffery. That leaves the following shorter list of needed starters I predict after this season:
        Center, Slot WR, #2 TE
        OLB, ILB, FS
        And we’ll have at least ten million in cap space to play with. Not too shabby. But I could see it get nasty with either Alshon or Marshall.
        JWood is right, it will be a balanced draft. I expect us to still be looking for safety help, which will be tough as the position will be highly coveted in the draft after this year’s FA numbers. The blog will likely be whining that we need a center – and that’s probably where our first or second round pick will go. Emery will also be looking for the next RB for our offense and for more toys for Trestman and Cutler to play with.

        • Johnathan Wood

          Earl’s contract actually runs through end of 2015, so they are set at WR for next 2 years once Marshall is re-signed (and he WILL Be re-signed, guaranteed).

          • Johnathan Wood

            and some of the spots you mention will be filled by rookies from this year, most likely. Plus then Phil can look at roster at end of 2014 and add 2-3 players the caliber of Houston, Bennett, Bushrod to fill holes on D in FA.

          • NewBearInTown

            I totally missed him, you are correct. But the team seems to want Wilson to take the job, taller/stronger guy fits Emery’s mold better.

  • Irish Sweetness

    These threads are popping up like Cromartie kids.

    Somebody who watches college ball please explain the following to me re Aaron Donald.

    Why would we spend the 14th pick on an under-sized tackle?

    The average weight of a DT in the combine over the last five years is 304 lbs. I’ve read that Donald is anywhere between 280-285lbs. So at the very least, he’s 20lbs below average weight for a DT.

    Force = Mass x Acceleration

    That’s a lot of momentum to give up in a league full of very big O-linemen who have seen it all before, and are likely going to toss his salad.

    Thoughts?

    • Johnathan Wood

      I addressed this on last post. Let me go grab it

      • Johnathan Wood

        As a 4-3 3-technique his job is to shoot the gap, not take on any one player. He is the quickest DT to enter the draft in quite some time, so he should be good at this. The role of a 3-technique is to blow shit up in the backfield, not hold up blockers at the point of attack.

        He also would likely slide out to DE in 3-3-5 nickel hybrid looks, IMO.

        Additionally, he’s 285. Can probably max out at 290, 295. That’s small for a DT, but not unheard of. Basically Melton size, Atkins, etc.

        And since F=MxA, his unreal A can make up for a slightly lower M to even out F, IMO.

        • NewBearInTown

          That’s the theory. Still the extra size helps prevent linemen from pushing you back with one arm. Donald’s combine figures will intrigue a scout like Emery. His physicals could turn a guy like Emery off pretty quick.

          • Johnathan Wood

            He has off the charts athleticism for a guy his size, and his production is also off the charts.

            Draft guys I talk to on Twitter (guys who work for Rotoworld, Walter Football, other reputable sites) say he has the production of a DE. The most productive pass-rushing DT they’ve seen come out of college in YEARS. The two most common comparisons are Geno Atkins and John Randle.

            You’re really gonna throw THAT away over concern about 10 pounds (3% body weight)? That would just be stupid.

          • Johnathan Wood

            side note: Twitter is an amazing tool to be a smart football fan if you follow and interact with the right people. Unprecedented access to people in the business. Scouts, agents, professional writers with ins to the teams, the players themselves.

          • EnderWiggin

            What is yer twat handle? I may be following you, but wanna make sure.

          • Johnathan Wood

            trestmanstache.

            What’s yours?

          • EnderWiggin

            I shouldda known. @BearDownBlog

          • Irish Sweetness

            We can forget about his production though. His NFL production is 0. Different league, bigger faster players across the line .. .who will all have more experience then he does.

            Geno Atkins is at least 20lbs heavier than Donald ……
            … the fact remains … he’s 20lb below average. That’s not inconsiderable.

          • Johnathan Wood

            I’m just saying he’s not a workout warrior who doesn’t have the tape to match (a la Cornelius Washington).

        • Irish Sweetness

          Yes, I was thinking him being only 6’0-6’1 he might have greater acceleration than other bigger tackles and so could compensate, and if he’s as quick as you say, then yes, he could very well blow by those big mummies. He’d certainly be very interesting on the outside versus a big J-Webb type.

          Is he therefore the consensus top of our draft board at #14?

          • Johnathan Wood

            Not just his 40 time, but his 3-cone time (which is for acceleration and side-to-side agility) was top 5 for all DL men.

            Not just DTs.

            He’s the speed of a DE with the size of a (small) DT.

            I can’t speak for anybody else, but he is at the top of my board by a mile. Best defensive player in the draft outside of Clowney, IMO, and might end up better than Clowney because he cares more.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He certainly looks fast on tape, no question – I’m just worried that when a big meaty piston of a veteran guard’s hand jabs him upright and stops his forward momentum … then it’s all over for that play. Or, his momentum is directed sideways into another player as he’s steered by a guard, tackle etc.
            He hasn’t got Ninja invisibility, guys are going to be laying hands on him, grabbing cloth and steering him into the ground. It’s a concern.

            What if Kony Ealy is still there? 6’5 S75lbs – how do we say no to that ? Next up is Chicken Dinner #2 – Trent Murphy (6’6 250)

            Surely we go with Ealy if he’s there? I know Emery will.

          • George Hernandez

            Stephon Tuitt from ND 6’5″ 304 34.75″ arm length would probably be after Ealy in terms of DE’s.

          • Johnathan Wood

            I see a lot of Houston in Tuitt. Would absolutely love him if he fell to them in round 2, but I doubt that happens.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Round 2?? We absolutely steal him at #14!!! He’s a freakin monster !!!

          • Johnathan Wood

            Tuitt had a down year in 2014. He looked a lot better in 2013.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            STRENGTHS: Tantalizing upside. Highly athletic frame despite massive size. Impressive combination of length, power and surprising quickness. Scheme versatility for the 3-4 and 4-3, possessing the size of most interior linemen while maintaining the quickness to provide a rush off the edge.

            WEAKNESSES: Arrived to 2013 fall came out of shape following hernia surgery and struggled to dominate as he had as a sophomore. Lack of consistency was a concern as a junior.

            Tuitt started all 13 games as a sophomore, posting 47 tackles, including 13 for loss, a team-high 12 sacks, three forced fumbles, one fumble recovery, one pass breakup and a blocked kick.

            Most expected Tuitt to dominate again in 2013, but he showed up to fall practice with additional weight and struggled to make the same impact early in the season. His play improved throughout the course of the year, however, and Tuitt decided to make the jump to the NFL, foregoing his senior season.

            [from CBSSports.cm]

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Had he not had surgery, likely this guy is the first overall pick.

          • Johnathan Wood

            yeah, the injury. Could be a good player, tough to spend the 14th pick on somebody coming off a down year though. Big leap of faith.

            Then again, Emery isn’t afraid to make those.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Wow, He doesn’t look like a 300lber, the dude is built!! We could plug him in at DT too. How has nobody mentioned this guy

            {George : I just did ….}

            Good lord, this man is a freak. THE SEARCH IS OVER!!!!

            0.43 He picks up the ball and sprints 75 yards untouched !

            1:40 Look at the hit he puts on the RB after penetrating the backfield – he hits him FROM THE SIDE and puts the guy into orbit.

            Jiminy H. Wilikers we HAVE to draft this guy. Holy Schneikies …. that kind of size and speed has simply got to get drafted by us at #14.

            Stephon Tuitt – I heart you.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twZ2sZAqnyM

          • Johnathan Wood

            there are some DE guys available later in the draft. One from WVU who’s projected to go round 3-4 (Clarke, I think), one from Louisville who’s likely a 3rd rounder (a little light, but they say he can bulk up to about 265 pretty easily). The Louisville guy could be a target of theirs too, they just hired his college DL coach. A few more guys who are slipping my mind right now…

            Oh yeah, the other STanford guy, Ben Gardner. Maybe take a flyer on the wacko from South Florida in later rounds… Lynch.

          • George Hernandez

            Don’t forget Kareem Martin from UNC, I like Clarke as well, he just hasn’t put it together but he has the physical tools 6’6″ 271 34.675″ arms 4.77 40 time. The guy from UL is Marcus Smith 6’3″ 251 34″ arms 4.68 40. Aaron Lynch is the USF guy (my alma mater), not that big a fan of his though, his head isn’t screwed on straight and always seems to draw stupid penalties after the whistle.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Are they 305lbs, 6’5 and can they run like Jesse Owens?This guy is the size of an OT but sprints like an Olympian ! Did you see his tape? How is he not the #1 pick ?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Good point on his leverage – if he’s quick off the snap and gets his pads low and up ….

    • NewBearInTown

      Curious to see JWood’s comments, but I agree with you on the size issue. Donald is a little small for a true DT, but that’s not a terrible thing with his speed. We’ve had several DEs that have played 3 tech effectively. Donald is a DT that could play DE effectively.

      • Irish Sweetness

        For me, he’s too short for a DE -you want a guy like Pep who can get his big paws up there and block a pass if he can’t make the sack.
        I like Ealy, but he mightn’t be there.

        • Johnathan Wood

          I think Donald could do some essentially 3-4 DE in hybrid looks (like a 3-3-5 nickel). But agree he’s not a full-time DE, though he has above-average athleticism for one.

    • IBNO

      KE=1/2mv^2

      So if you have a guy 20% lighter, he needs to be 10% faster to bring the same amount of energy into the collision. In other words, speed is much more important than weight.

      That said, I’m all for a bigger dude. 285 at 3T is too light, no matter what his speed.

      • SC Dave

        Well, more like 12% faster, but who’s quibbling?

  • Johnathan Wood

    Another way to look at it: they’ve prioritized run D over pass rush with all their other DL moves so far this offseason. But you need pass rush too. So why not grab the best pass rusher available?

    That’s Donald. He would complement the run-stuffing guys elsewhere on the line really well in that regard.

    • Johnathan Wood

      If anything, I think the current FA moves point to them targeting Donald in the draft. They need to fix run D and pass rush. They’ve built an entire DL around that 3-tech spot to be a good run-stuffing line that still needs the pass rush boost. Donald is the missing piece to complete that line.

      Or some other 3T if they don’t get Donald. They still need a 3T, and Donald is the best 3T in the draft.

      • George Hernandez

        Agreed and historically QB’s struggle most when the rush comes directly in their face, they can’t step up and are forced sideline to sideline into the waiting arms of DE’s, OLB’s. They can no longer “climb the pocket” and step into throws. Ask Peyton Manning about that.

        • SC Dave

          DIdn’t Emery talk all about that last year? Or maybe it was Trestman talking about stopping the OTHER GUYS from pass rushing up the middle…

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            When Garza is your center, it happens on every single pass play.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      But he won’t be there at #14 …..

      • Johnathan Wood

        he might; he might not. Who’s gonna draft him?

        TB… not likely. Have a stud 3T DT already.
        NYG… they don’t go DT in round 1. Like, ever.
        STL… maybe, but they have bigger needs, IMO.
        TEN… maybe, but they have bigger needs, IMO.
        DAL trades up… always a possibility with Jerry boy. But they now might sign Melton, which would rule that out.

        We’ll see. I think there’s a solid chance he’s still there.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Titans are going to release Ryan Fitzpatrick? Go Phil. Do it. About time we had another beard.

  • Johnathan Wood

    ok, did a little weight research.

    Aaron Donald was 285 at the Combine
    Geno Smith is 302 now, was 290 at the combine
    Henry Melton is 295 now, was 269 at the combine
    Nate Collins is 296 now, was 290 at the Combine

    So Donald really isn’t all that small for a 3-technique.

    • gpldan

      And Paea was gonna be fine at 290.

      We keep doing this, taking guys for their “quickness” and then getting pushed around in the trenches in the 4th Q by the Pack line.

      But every goddamn year, the sexy speed sells. So tired of this.

      • Johnathan Wood

        Paea is a nose tackle. Completely different position. and he weighs 300 pounds, which is the prototypical weight you think of for a DT (300+ usually).

        Jeremiah Ratliff is 287 pounds and has been a good 3-4 nose in the past. It’s about getting good football players. Donald is a good football player.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I think Ratliff plays at a lot more than 287. He’s listed at 303 …

          • Johnathan Wood

            Google said 287. I always thought he was bigger than that too.

    • Irish Sweetness

      They throw in NTs with that data, fair point.

    • gpldan

      Geno Smith is 302?

      I would think that might affect his ability to scramble from the pocket for the Jets.

  • Trac

    Possible draft trade down partners? I would like to see Emery trade down for extra picks if his traditional first round pick is unconventional again.

    • Johnathan Wood

      Pittsburgh (15), Baltimore (17), New York Jets (18), Miami (19), and Arizona (20) are all teams likely looking for offense in round 1. If somebody falls (Lewan, Evans, etc.) I could see one of those teams wanting to move up to 14 to ensure they get their guy.

      Baltimore at 15 will be looking for OT or WR. So an OT or WR at 14 could prompt a team behind Baltimore to move past them to get him.

      Miami wants OT, so does PIT and ARI (maybe not ARI after FA, but they still could probably use one more OT). NYJ want a WR. So IMO those are the most likely trade partners.

      • Trac

        Interestingly Miami picks at 19 which is where we always seem to end up drafting every year.

        • Johnathan Wood

          I would not be shocked to see him trade down to that range, pick up an extra 3rd round pick, and draft Hageman (Donald won’t last past DAL at 16). Hageman is the one guy I look at in round 1 and think “that is a prototypical Emery pick.”

          • MB30SD

            See trac, I think this is much more how it will go… that kinda speaks to what you said above and what data is saying…

            I think #14 comes around and maybe Hageman is Phil’s guy. THE guy. He’s locked on. He’s picking Hageman no matter what.

            I think rather than trading down, I think… to your point, being phil, he doesn’t take the risk of trading down and someone else picking up hageman in front of us.

            So instead, phil throws away what could be an extra 3rd in a trade down to still pick hageman later in the round where everyone else thinks he’ll be (or even early 2nd depending how things start to shake out), and he just ‘reaches’ for him at #14 where we could have maybe taken the #1 CB or #1/2 FS instead of taking what everyone else sees as an early rd 2 guy.

            That seems much more phil’s style to me. Take his guy a few spots (or even 15+) early and pass up any trades that might have gotten us the guy anyway plus an extra pick later… AND we pass up 2-3 guys who are MUCH better football players at their respective positions (and this year, positions of dire need as well).

            That I can totally see happening. But like I said, we get hageman at 14 and we still win maings. He’s just as much a fit for us as donald, it seems. Now, I might debate with you that taking pryor/Dix/Gilbert would have been the better straight BPA and value move… but I am a little biased.

          • Johnathan Wood

            no Grimes in the draft this year. You talking Gilbert? Or Dennard? Those are the top 2 CBs.
            And yeah, he could have picked up a 3rd from ATL to move down to 29 and still grab Long last year. That pissed me off.

          • MB30SD

            Right, sorry… gilbert… I keep calling him grimes.

            Yeah, I think that’s def true about long… do you feel the same way about Hageman? Will he still be there late 1/early 2?

            Btw, long def worked out for us, so can’t really complain about that in in hindsight. I think the kid can be a franchise OL for years to come. He’s a badass, love that kid.

          • Johnathan Wood

            I think Hageman could be a star eventually, but he’s kinda raw still. Converted from TE 2-3 years ago.

            But a guy I talked to on Twitter who works for Rotoworld said his QB pressure #s were up there with Donalds, both more like DE numbers than anything he’s seen from a DT in the last 5 years.

            I think Hageman could well be the pick (have thought that for months, he just fits the Emery profile to a T), and I wouldn’t hate it. But I’d prefer Donald.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Brent Grimes? Isn’t he a UFA now ?

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            How often does the top DT last til #14 ? He’s an explosive little guy who is moving into the big-guy leagues now. Tuitt is a speedy big guy that we can play at DT or DE, damn, I’d like to see him return kicks!

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Phil won’t draft Hageman with the concerns about his attitude to football IMHO.

          • Johnathan Wood

            Marquess Wilson, Evan Rodriguez, Brandon Marshall. He takes risks.

            If he likes a guy, he scouts him heavily. Maybe he’s convinced those concerns are overblown.

    • MB30SD

      Sick of trading down/picking in the 2nd tier. Enough. Take your A+ targeted guys in Rd 1 and 2. Period.

      • Trac

        Ok, what will be your reaction if Emery makes another CD pick or Long pick at #14. You know, a guy that may be a stretch or a diamond in the rough like Long that could be drafted in the second half of round #2. Will you honor me with a rant if Emery does that again?

        • MB30SD

          Fair question. Here are my thoughts, I was excited about the long pick because of his pedigree. I knew he’d be a badass… admittedly it turned out even better than I thought. I still maintain that marinelli had as much to do with CD as phil.

          The main point is that this draft is so stacked with D tallent as well as teams picking before us that are probably going to go on the O side of the ball, it’s almost impossible to pick a project diamond.

          If donald isn’t there (the #1 DT) then hageman will be… and like data said, he might be an even better fit for our needs/scheme anyway. If those two aren’t there, then Grimes the #1 CB might be, if HE isn’t there either, then one of Dix or Pryor (the two top FS) definitely will be there for us.

          So we’re either going to get the #1 DT, or the #1 corner, or a #1 FS (all positions of critical need)… we simply can’t lose. Now, if he went and picked fucking AJ McCarron, well… then we know he just got lucky last year and that he’s a total buffoon… and Canada gets to gloat and talk smack to me all year.

          I just can’t see that going down, just can’t. He so calculating and analytical in his approach to everything else, why would he go totally spastic and angelo/lovie the best draft class/opty we’ve had in 10 years?

          The only true answer is… we’ll see how it all goes down in May. My money’s on phil picking the best possible available 5-10 year franchise player for us at a position of dire need at #14 maings.

          • Johnathan Wood

            Phil talked at length at the end of the season presser and his combine presser about learning from his past draft mistakes.

            Now it’s time to see if that was empty talk or not.

          • MB30SD

            he doesn’t seem like the type not to learn from experience. He’s the anti-angelo.

            It would be great to see him take some calculated risks that really pay off bigtime though, I agree.

        • George Hernandez

          Kyle Long was going in the 1st round even if we didn’t pick him, last year almost all the OL were being drafted ahead of where everyone thought they would, it was crazy like that.

          • Trac

            Actually Mel Kiper was the only guy who had us taking long and that was only because he figured two guys that were still on the board when we drafted wouldn’t be available. Not one other team had long going in the first round. Chicken dinner was a different story. The Pats and Cheese had him on their board in the first round.

          • gpldan

            I still contend Chicken Dinner was exclusively to screw the cheese from replacing AJ Hawk.

          • bearsfantillend

            well that ROYALLY FUCKING BACKFIRED.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            It wouldn’t have if we would have been GB on the final Sunday of the regular season. It would’ve meant that picking Shea would’ve directly led to a division title and I am ok with that, except that it didn’t and now I am bitter toward the Shea pick.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Not yet. Let’s see how he does playing the position he should have been playing from day one.

          • Johnathan Wood

            mcClellin was gonna be a 1st round pick, it was just supposed to be to a 3-4 team, not 4-3.
            GB responded by taking a 4-3 DE to play 3-4 OLB. SMH. Teams shoulda swapped after the draft.

  • Trac

    If Taylor Lewan is still available when the Bears pick, I could see them trading down to a team that needs a OT. Maybe Miami?

  • MB30SD

    http://m.si.com/4038334/sdsu-rb-who-left-combine-done-playing-football/a58e3128/

    Ho-ly-sheite-muslim. Someone get that kid to a psych ward stat.

  • Johnathan Wood

    I will say this: Ealy and Hageman more fit what Emery has stated he’s looking for in DL guys (aka scheme versatile). They both have plus size and athleticism and would be able to do a competent job handling a wider variety of positions. So I would not be shocked to see either of those two drafted in round 1.

    But IMO you simply need to grab the best football player and then figure out where to use him in round 1, and that is-without a doubt-Donald (assuming he’s there at 14).

    • gpldan

      I am holding you to this. I say Donald, while quick, is not big enough to hold up in the trenches in a 4-3 DT scheme. Moreover, if he’s not picked by the Bears, I say somebody will convert him into an end.

      • Johnathan Wood

        Donald is not an end. Not long enough.

        If he doesn’t go before Chicago, or to Chicago, he’s gone to Marinelli to be the 3T in Dallas at 16.

        • gpldan

          His arm length is fine at 33″, same as Dwight Freeney. He’s one of the very few college guys with a spin and counter-spin move, no less than 4 independent, effective moves. He’s a Pro Bowl end waiting to happen.

          http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1989056-breaking-down-aaron-donald-and-his-2014-nfl-draft-prospects

          • Johnathan Wood

            I’m not talking arm length. Body length. He’s 6’1″. Pretty sure that would be the shortest DE in the leagues by far.

          • gpldan

            http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/2002draft/des/dwightfreeney.htm

            Psst: I stood next to Chicken Dinner at Bourbonaisse. I am 6’3″ and 245. I dwarfed him. And that’s sad.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            that makes me sad.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Jesus, can you play Mike?

            That guy from Epic Meal Time was looking down at Arnie … Scharzenschnitzel still has those tits though. 66. Looking good.

          • George Hernandez

            arm length is 32 and 5/8. I know what you’re gonna say, that’s the same thing, but in a league that says a 4.4 and a 4.5 forty are completely different, fractions of an inch in arm length can mean the difference between getting your hands on somebody or them getting their hands on you. He doesnt have the arm length to play DE, even though data isn’t talking about arm length, I am.

          • gpldan

            It’s odd that it didn’t seem to bother Freeney that much. Or Elvis Dumeravil.

            Weird.

          • George Hernandez

            Freeney and ED are the exception, not the rule and Freeney was 6’1″ 266 with a 4.48 40 at the combine and played DE in college as did Dumervil, both were in the 266lb. range.

          • gpldan

            So? Donald is another exception, with his 4.4 speed.

          • George Hernandez

            Donald ran a 4.68 at the combine.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            John Abraham is basically a DE too ….

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Yup, when Pep sticks his paw up in the air, that’s tough on a QB. 6’1 ain’t doing it.

  • MB30SD
    • Johnathan Wood

      he and Aaron Murray are two guys I think would both be great fits in this offense. Both are smart, poised QBs with good accuracy but not elite arm strength. Trestman’s offense doesn’t require a super arm to excel (see McCown, Josh).

      But IMO the defensive needs are too great to draft a QB in the top 4 rounds right now. Maybe round 4, but they still need a DE, DT, CB, and S, and that’s first four rounds to me.

      But you never know that they do. Maybe they really love one of those guys (or another mid-late round QB) and go for him.

      • MB30SD

        gotta go DT in rd 1 and S in rd 2 if you ask me. Maybe even flop that if the right guys aren’t there. DT seems to be deeper than S.

        • Johnathan Wood

          I think 3T is their biggest need right now, but we’ll see. Still some time left in FA.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Damn, at 304 we could plug in Tuitt at 3T and with his speed he could wreak havoc.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Check out my man’s tape, MB, then get back to me.

      • NewBearInTown

        Plus they need a center and general O-line depth. Garza is a one year fix and everyone knows it. If we go offense in the first four rounds, I suspect we’ll go center.

        • Johnathan Wood

          With C, I wonder how much they like Boggs and if they view him as a potential starter in 2015.

          A guy I love is Gabe Ikard of Oklahoma. 4-year starter, 3-year all Big 12, known as the leader of the line, has a Kromer connection from somewhere. Viewed as a 5th round pick or later because he needs to hit the weight room and bulk up a bit. So would be perfect to sit under Garza for a year before stepping in without missing a beat in 2015 IMO.

    • gpldan

      McCarron is a good fit for what Trestman does, and I think would be a good pick in the 3rd.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        No way we can afford to go prospecting for gold QBs in the river of piss that is round 4. Ryan Fitz and Mike Vick are available. If Cutty goes down – which he will – we need a guy who’s been there and done that to fill in. Fitzy is a solid QB who was stuck on a shitty team.

        • DaCoaches Mustache

          Fitzgerald is fucking horrible and he looks like a homeless person. I think he once killed a man. Go back to talking about little green men. You’re way more knowledgable about that than football.

          • MB30SD

            Fucking coach… just comes on to destroy us one by one.

            I’m still crying myself to sleep at night over your last post.

          • gpldan

            He is to DBB what Joe Pesci was to Goodfellas.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            He’s not ‘fucking horrible’, he’s a better body to send in than Jordan Palmer – which is what we’re faced with.

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      not unless there is a huge DL or LB named McCarron that i’m not aware of.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      DEFENSE !!!!! DEFENSE !!!!! DEFENSE !!!!! DEFENSE !!!!! DEFENSE !!!!! DEFENSE !!!!!
      DEFENSE !!!!! DEFENSE !!!!! DEFENSE !!!!! DEFENSE !!!!! DEFENSE !!!!! DEFENSE !!!!!
      DEFENSE !!!!! DEFENSE !!!!! DEFENSE !!!!! DEFENSE !!!!! DEFENSE !!!!! DEFENSE !!!!!

      • Johnathan Wood

        I’m with you here, Irish. The first 4 rounds, in some order, need to be DE, DT, CB, S.

        Only way you look at QB, RB, any O depth concern before round 5 is if you pick up an extra pick somewhere. So, say you trade back in rd 1 for an extra 3rd. Then you’ve grabbed your 4 D guys in first 3 rounds and can look offense-maybe-in round 4.

        • Trac

          Don’t forget, Phil has 4 more years. He has to position himself to have his contract renewed. Picking a QB might suck for today but it might just save his job tomorrow.

          • Johnathan Wood

            Cutler is locked in as their QB for at least the next 3 years, and is affordable after this year through 2018.

            There is zero need for a QB right now.

            Emery’s moves so far through 3 years have all been with future in mind rather than panic moves to win now at all costs. He obviously feels his job is fairly safe.

  • MB30SD

    hey dave, trac… what do you think of ms. pelosi sticking her head into our beloved game: http://nfl.si.com/2014/03/13/washington-redskins-nickname-trademark-nancy-pelosi/

    (sits back with shiteating grin and slowly stirs pot)

    • George Hernandez

      Mother of Skeletor needs to stay out of it…

      • gpldan

        The court system in the last 5 years, in a number of areas, have dropped trademark on names considered culturally offensive.

        The Redskins wouldn’t be getting singled out; just treated like everyone else.

        • Trac

          Hardly. If the Redskins were treated like everyone else(you and I), they’d be in the reparations stage of the ruling.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          The New York Niggers?

    • Trac

      I’d say that she is another perfect example of who I wouldn’t want to be no matter how much money came with the name tag.

      • George Hernandez

        And yet at one point she was 2 hearbeats away from the presidency.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          George W Bush WAS the President … for two terms … how fucking scary is that?

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            That happened already though, the unknown is scarier.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Yup, there’s always Jeb …..

          • Trac

            You forget your own teachings sir. The president is a puppet. Nothing more, nothing less.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            And they used him to remove almost every last freedom there was ….

    • AlbertInTucson

      That corrupt bitch. One of the 3 Stygian Witches of Caliornia with Boxer & Feinstein. Feinstein is shocked that the CIA has been checking on them. Well, DUH!

      • gpldan

        Al,

        The CIA wasn’t just checking on them. They were deleting files that the Congressional Oversight committee had on Guantanamo Bay torture. PDFs that people knew they read suddenly became extinct.

        CIA is trying to throw the IT guys in Congress under the bus, but they think they found the malware.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Figures that Feinstien got it wrong. But don’t tell me NSA didn’t look.

          • gpldan

            According to this week’s Snowden leak, the NSA had operation QUANTUM. You really gotta love it when the NSA names an operation after the bad guys in a Bond film. I guess we’ll hear about Operation Spectre later. Maybe they can rope in GI Joe and we can get Operation Cobra.

            QUANTUM was brilliant. They would hijack Facebook in given regions to test the mass installation of malware. Because they knew Facebook would be a trusted browser site, so they proxied the real Facebook so you thought you were looking at that, but it was an alternate site that was installing the 0-day.

            I think next week, we will find out that the NSA was planning to rob Fort Knox, and has a henchman named Oddjob with a funny hat.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Except that Fort Knox is empty, because the Fed hold all of the country’s gold as collateral on the 80 year-old loan which can never be paid off because –

            {IRISH! NO!}

            Sorry.

          • DaMurph

            Hahaha! Nice!

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          I believe all those files – and quite a few others, were all safely demolished in WTC building 7 … which had been wired for demo months in advance of a ‘surprise’ attack. Thank you for admitting that on TV Mr. Larry Silverstein.

          • gpldan

            The difference between you and me, Irish, is that all my shit is real and documented, and I always provide links so people can make up their own minds.

            https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/03/12/nsa-plans-infect-millions-computers-malware/

            What pisses me off about aliens and bullshit about the Fed is that it’s all made-up horseshit and you conspiracy guys are about 2 degrees of separation from the schizophrenic rocking in his chair talking about Krugerrands and the Knights of Columbus.

            Bullshit like that is just mud in the water, and you know it. It clouds what’s real and allows the average person to just be so afraid as to check out, which is why dissent doesn’t happen in any way against the government installing mass spyware and deleting files from Congress.

            #rant over

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            What’s made up about the Fed? It’s all there. The Constitution specifically prohibits anyone other than the government to create wealth. The problem lies in the wording. They use the phrase ” … shall coin wealth ..” so this has been interpreted literally and the Government can now only create the actual coins debt-free while the Rothschild-controlled Fed creates money out of thin air, then charges the government interest on using THEIR OWN MONEY. If you can’t see the scam then you’re no different to the majority of the country who don’t understand where money comes from, which is why the Ponzi scheme has lasted for 101 years now, and why the Fed holds the national parks and Federal territories, your gold and even your birth certificates as collateral on a loan – which by design – can never be paid off. Did you never wonder why the richest nation on the planet is 17 trillion in the hole? Who do you think that’s owed to?

            That’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s a conspiracy fact.

            If you want to educate yourself on money and why the world is in crisis, then I would suggest :

            1. Researching ‘money as debt’.

            2. Reading The Creature from Jekyll Island. Audio on Youtube
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dukczz_kyco

            3. Watching ‘The Money Masters’ on Youtube (3 1/2 hours)
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDtBSiI13fE

            4. Watching ‘The Secret of Oz’ (Baum wrote The Wizard of Oz to warn Americans of Money as debt, in the book, Dorothy’s slippers are made of silver.)
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swkq2E8mswI

            As for the ‘alien shit being made up’, you’re quite right, a lot of it is. Disinformation is more powerful a tool than denial. But in 1947, the army got caught with its pants down. Against the wishes of their info officer, the 509th bomb group’s General Roger M. Ramey released a press statement saying a craft had been recovered because there had already been so many non-military witnesses to the event. This was printed in the papers and announced on radio. The next day the story was completely changed. The 509th bomb group – the people in charge of dropping nuclear weapons – had identified a flying saucer full of aliens incorrectly, it was really a weather balloon. Col. Philip Corso who was duty chief at Wright-Patterson AFB when they brought the bodies in, released his book The Day After Roswell in ’98 after his 50 year gag order was up, and even waited a year until the last superior officer, General Trudeau had died. There have been many military witnesses that have come forward since then, and there were literally hundreds of witnesses in total.

            Those that choose not to investigate the facts of the most significant events in recorded history like to be good patriotic sheep and accept that the 509th mistook a weather balloon for a spacecraft containing 6 aliens, and that hundreds of witnesses have come forward and strangely corroborated their original ‘mistaken alien story’, complete liars each and every one – including all the serviceman who have lied in order to support the ‘mistaken alien story’.

            It was just a weather balloon, go back to seep America. Anyone who believes our original story, or any of those hundreds of crazy witnesses – including your own servicemen – well you’re all just schizos.

            It was also a coincidence that the CIA was formed a few months later.

            And Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK with magic bullets, and steel buildings can collapse because of fire.

            Go back to sleep America.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Agree with everything except the 9/11 inside job thing.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Never mind the CIA .. the NSA has ALL your shit. I just watched/listened to a 45 minute interview with Snowden. Finally.

        • MB30SD

          how about this… I don’t give a fuck. I really, honestly don’t. THey can look at all the tits and dick pics on my phone, my emails and text, I don’t fucking care. Just dont release them.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            As Louis CK said : Remember when people were worried about privacy ? Then Facebook happens and they can’t upload ALL their shit fast enough …..

    • SC Dave

      Not taking this bait. I have found that whenever I see anything that piece of shit does, it makes me want to call Irish and move to Thailand to talk about UFOs. More believable than any policy or idea of hers making any sense.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        If you moved over here you’d be talking Unbelievable Female Orifices ….

        • SC Dave

          That would work.

      • MB30SD

        I’m not affiliated. I tend to want the common sense path not along party lines

        that said this freak and all her pathetic flaccid cohorts like harry reid and frank make me sick to my stomach . What a brigade of uselessness. Great counterparts to bohner,cantor, etc… and their buffoontastic crew. Jesus this system is broken. Filled with worthless talkers only interested in perpetuating the self-serving power and money status quo. Disgusting. (but yes, I understand it’s better than the ukrain or zimbabwe)

  • Trac

    Ok MB, here’s where I think you may not be thinking like Emery. Phil will have locked onto the guy he wants in the first round regardless of position ranking prior to the draft. If Emery believes that he can find a trade down partner that won’t jeopardize him getting his guy, he’ll consider it. I don’t think Emery thinks the way a typical GM does. I believe that he targets a guy and does everything he can to make sure he gets the guy he targets in the first round regardless of their projected talent. The only way I see Emery moving off the #14 spot is if he gets a sweet trade enough trade offer to get him off his guy or the probability of HIS guy still being there is high even after a trade.

    Emery will not make the traditional selection ever. Nope, I think he believes he has an obligation to go with his instinct over the safe bet.

    • MB30SD

      fair enough… guess we’ll find out in a couple months my maings. (I hope I’m right… or that he’s right)

      • Trac

        ‘’We had some conversations [about trading down] prior to the start of
        the draft,’’ Emery said. ‘’We had some people call us, but nothing that
        would take us off that pick. Kyle was the player that we targeted. We’ve
        targeted him for the last couple of weeks. He had to be gone for us to
        move back. We were not going to move off that spot if Kyle Long was
        still available.’’

        Phil Emery after the Long pick.

        Note: Long had to be gone for Emery to consider trading down.

        • gpldan

          Phil had a hard-on for Long. He had back-channel communication via his trainer well before the draft going on. He loved the whole Long family ethos, everything.

          I don’t know that he’s got a guy like that on radar this time.

          • Johnathan Wood

            that’s just it: we don’t know. Nobody knew Long to Bears last year.

          • gpldan

            We can agree that when Dodger Rodger steps to the podium for the Bears pick, none of us will have it right. None of us.

          • gpldan

            Although I think the Falcons trade with the Rams to get Clowney who then take Donald at 13.

            And then Phil will get dicked, and take Dix.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Precisely why he should draft Tuitt at #14. He won’t be there in rd 2 and I don’t care where he is on projections. 20 years old and sent to us by the man upstairs to blow up the NFCN for the next ten years .. at which point the Raiders will give him 200 million to play on two broken legs.

  • Trac

    @dabearsblog
    @black_42 Did Lance Briggs whine when Jerry & Lovie squandered their defensive effort for a decade w/hapless offensive talent?

    To be fair, Ginny didn’t cut the purse strings until the Bears signed Julius Peppers. That and the Cutty moves were sheer marketing brilliance as the fans oohed and aahed for 3 more years with minimum bitching. Then, when those moves ran their course, they gave the mob some red meat by firing Jerry and hiring Emery. The way I figure it, most fans will be subdued for one more year, 2 at best and then it’ll be time to spend some more money.

  • Guest

    @MB30SD:disqus

    Apparently you can tag people in posts, but not everyone. Didn’t know that.

  • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

    Wow. MB has posted 3500+ comments. Twice as many as me in second, slightly ahead of Butch, and he has three times as many comments as GPLDAN in 4th ….. we should be paying attention to other areas of our lives ….. MB – are you plugged into this thing via mind-meld?

    • gpldan

      I’m going to write a book about this season.

      I will call it “From Pringles to Ha Ha: The Bears 2014 Season”

      • gpldan

        Chapter 1: The Exile of Chris Conte

    • MB30SD

      you’re all welcome

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Comin’ for y’all!!

  • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

    Very interesting video on this page from Pat Kirwan, talking about defense in the draft. If you don’t get one of the top two-three safeties in the first round, there’s probably a big drop-off to the fourth round. He has an interesting equation for measuring explosiveness whereby anything over 70 is explosive. Donald scores a 75. Talking of LDEs he’s high on Tuitt, but thinks Hageman is a workout-warrior and takes plays off. He has two picks for very smart play-calling mikes we could maybe pick up in the lower rounds, one was 5’11 but gets off his blocks quickly, the other is 6’3 250. Both white, if haters be hatin’.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1893212/stephon-tuitt

    • SC Dave

      Yeah, woulda sucked to waste a first rounder on some white bitch like kuechly

  • Trac

    These guys take it personal when their team doesn’t pay them what they “feel” they deserve. Welcome to today’s NFL.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/14/justin-tuck-says-giants-offer-was-disrespectful/

  • gpldan

    WalterFootball thinks the Pack takes Hageman

    http://walterfootball.com/draft2014_1.php

    • Johnathan Wood

      I have a tough time seeing them go DL. They have 3-4 guys who have been picked in top 2 rounds in last 3 years on the DL. IMO they’re looking LB or S in round 1. Likely one of Clinton-Dix, Mosley, or Pryor.

      We’ll see though.

      • NewBearInTown

        Green Bay definitely needs help in the secondary. They got Sam Shields to help at cornerback. They could go safety in round one.

        They drafted Casey Hayward in the 2nd 2012 to play corner as well, who I really wanted us to take in the third round. He had a good game against the Bears last year, but I don’t see him on the Packers depth chart. Anyone know what happened to him?

        • Johnathan Wood

          he missed the whole year except like 2 games with injuries. Was on IR, so wouldn’t show up on depth chart.
          He’ll be their starting nickel next year.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          I also wanted Casey Heyward in the 3rd. Pissed when that didn’t happen.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Here is a name at DB to look out for later Dontae Johnson 6’2 3/8″ 200 4.45 40 from NC State, played CB/FS so he is versatile. Better in zone, would have to be coached up to play man but based on physical skills he could learn.

    • Johnathan Wood

      the Bears have met with Marquestion Huff, a S/CB from a smaller school (Montana maybe?) on at least 2 different occasions.

      Another guy to keep an eye on.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Love the name. We should keep an eye on Hingle McCringleberry, TE, Penn State…HAHAHA!

        • MB30SD

          J’Dinkalage Margoone has been one of my favorites for a couple years now….

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            University of South Flerda…Go Bulls! I’m partial to Jackmerius Tacktheratrix.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            You guys are taking the piss ….

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Marquestion? Jesus.

  • CanadaBear

    Love all the back and forth about the draft. Don’t watch college ball so my entire education on the draft is from you guys. There are about a half dozen posters that seem to really love this stuff and do a lot of homework. Thanks for that!

    • NewBearInTown

      The draft is a lot more interesting for me because I come here and know who these guys are. I watch 0 college games for religious reasons, so all the tape I get is from youtube.

      With the number of players to evaluate, I can’t imagine the headaches scouts have trying to sort through all this information.

    • SC Dave

      Seconded!

  • Doc Nitty

    Happy pi day, everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Johnathan Wood

    I’m telling you, this guy is a true difference-making stud. This is a breakdown of Donald from a former NFL DE:

    “After Donald’s performance at the combine, I think the best compliment I can pay him in grading his play is that his film blows his combine performance away.”

    This was a combine where he was one of the strongest DTs and more athletic than most of the DEs, mind you.

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/3/4/5456006/the-notebook-aaron-donald-master-of-technique

    • Johnathan Wood

      this guy says Donald has the little things down already better than most NFL vets. That means he’ll be good to go day 1. He’s EXACTLY what they need in the middle of their defense to round out that DL.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        I agree but you need a big NT next to him or else the middle of your D will get ran through more than Madonna in the 80’s. Also the extra attention a good NT will provide (double team) will keep Donald singled up on overmatched Guards.

        • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

          True, but both Paea and Ratliff can play NT.

          Both are undersized, but strong, esp Ratliff who played NT in a 3-4 in Dallas.
          But yeah, I would prefer a 320+ behemoth to complement 280.

      • SC Dave

        And when lovie reads da blog, hell take him just to fuck emery

    • Johnathan Wood

      also this re: versatility

      “I never realized how much Pitt moved Donald around on the line, for example. At some point he played each of the four positions on their defensive line: left defensive end, nose tackle, three technique and right defensive end. Not only that, he played them all pretty damn well. That goes back to his high level of technique, which translates to any position up front when you have it mastered.”

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        The versatility thing will be huge for Phil.

        • Johnathan Wood

          this guy thinks Donald is even strong enough to play nose. I dunno if I see that, but IMO he’ll be an instant Pro-Bowl caliber 3T.

    • Johnathan Wood

      only real knock on him is effort. Says he took plays off when he thought he couldn’t make a play. First I’ve heard people say that about him, but I’ll take his word on it.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Isn’t that what they say about Hageman?

    • Johnathan Wood

      ” this guy plays at a level, technique-wise, that I haven’t seen from a college defensive lineman in the last decade. Yes, I’m including Atkins, Gerald McCoy, Ndamukong Suh,Marcell Dareus, Nick Fairley and anybody else you can name. None of them had what this kid has at that point in their football lives.”

      Again, this is from a former NFL DE who knows all the technique subtleties and has scouted all these players extensively. High praise.

    • Jokey

      What is a counter spin move?

      • Johnathan Wood

        You try your first move, the OL reacts to have it blocked, then you spin back the other way.

        As opposed to McClellin’s spin, which is his first choice. This is a fallback if plan A fails.

  • gpldan
    • IBNO

      I wish there was an immunization against malaria.

      But yeah, Cutty and his wife are morons. You should see the thread at kissingsuzykolber about it. Whew.

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        that’s gotta be Kristin. She’s all “organic” but yet doesn’t realize that the science behind her new view doesn’t make sense. Hope that kid doesn’t get small pox or some shit.

  • Johnathan Wood

    more good news (just ignore the one painful thing here)…

    14th pick last 10 drafts: S Lotulelei, M Brockers, R Quinn, E. Thomas, M Jenkins, C Williams, D Revis, B Bunkley, T Davis, T Harris

    That’s 9 defensive players (fucking Chris Williams…)

    6 of them went on to be really good: Star, Quinn, Thomas, Revis, Davis, Harris

    the other 3 (Brockers, Jenkins, Bunkley) were all solid but not stars.

    Seems to be a good spot to grab top-level defensive talent. Hope history holds for the Bears.

    • MB30SD

      donald/hageman/pryor/dix/the corner who I keep calling grimes

      (sorry murph)

      Any one of those and it will be a great pick.

    • weird that you stopped at 10 years. why not go back one more year? why are you ignoring the Bears and the 14th pick of 2003?

      • Johnathan Wood

        I just picked 10 as an indicator of recent history.

        • Ok. As long as you weren’t ignoring Michael Haynes on purpose. =]

  • gpldan
    • Bear Down in Tampa

      ok, i give, i give. He might be gone at #7 though. Lovie has no issue taking undersized defenders with speed.

      • gpldan

        If not Lovie then the Rams are going to grab him after trading down so the Falcons can take Clowney.

        We are getting Dix’ed. That’s my prediction, so it will be wrong.

        I really wanted Eifert last year, which would have been a good pick, just not as good as Long.

        • Johnathan Wood

          Rams already are stacked at DL and have much bigger needs at CB, WR, QB, maybe even OL. All of those could be in play at 13 over DT, IMO.

          • gpldan

            Jeff Fisher is a disciple of Ditka/Ryan. He loves front 4 pressure and Donald gives him the best NFC line outside of the Lions.

            With Donald, the Rams are scary. Plus, they will get a compensatory pick for trading down with Atlanta.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Gotta agree with data, They grab their OT at #2, then take Gilbert, Evans or Dix. I’m worried about Lovie at #7 and the Cowboys trading up with the Rams as the main scenarios where we couldn’t get him.

          • Johnathan Wood

            Don’t forget WR for STL. That’s their biggest need. A guy like Mike Evans. CB too, Gilbert or Dennard.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            I mentioned Evans.

          • Johnathan Wood

            missed that, my bad.

          • Johnathan Wood

            STL already has a better line than DET, IMO. Add Donald and they are in a league of their own.

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            But their offensive line needs some shoring up, even though they re-signed Saffold.
            Both Saffold and Jake Long are inj prone.

            They also DESPERATELY need a big time WR like Evans.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Gotta say this, Bucs are setting Josh up for success, rebuilt line plus Doug Martin, Vincent Jackson (the guy we wanted before we traded for Brandon), Brandon Myers, Mike Williams and likely a draft pick. I hope he succeeds, just not against us. If Tedford is halfway competent, Lovie will have the best offense he ever had. TB’s problem is that he doesn’t have all the personnel to run the Tampa 2. Plus Lovie’s D is vulnerable to TE’s and is in a division with Greg Olsen and Jimmy Graham (he’s lucky Tony G. retired).

    • gpldan

      What are the odds that McCown starts? I don’t think we know that.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Lovie has already called him the starter.

        • MB30SD

          that dont mean sheeeeeit in this league fella.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            “Rex is our Quarterback”
            “Kyle is our Quarterback”

          • MB30SD

            you like that ‘fella’ bit? i just tried it on you for the first time.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            I flashed my effective swim move and went right by it…hahahaha! It suits you though, you should keep using it.

          • MB30SD

            I’m not quite sure how to take that….

        • johnnywad

          He’s not a starter. Lovie has screwed the Bucs. I’m glad Josh is getting lots of money because the football side of it is going to suck

          • MB30SD

            this.

            lovie is a fucking buffoon. When I listen to him talk I don’t hear a thinking intelligent man. I hear a guy who’s come up through the cronyism of the NFL and has made a name for himself on the back of a D scheme that’s not a d scheme anymore.

            We’ll see how it all shakes out. I’m sure he’ll get off the bus running but his chronic mismanagement of the small but very important nuances of being good at this game will start to show and 9-7 is what they’ll get.

            Sorry, I can only go off what I saw for 10 years Trac.

          • johnnywad

            I don’t get all the Lovie fear on the blog. That defense was good because he had Lach, Briggs, Nut, Harris, and Brown all in their prime. All guys with great talent. Some near HOF. Then mixed in Wale, A Brown and Pepp. I could have coached that to a top ten defense and I’m fucking dumb.

          • johnnywad

            Oh yeah. And Devin Hester spotting his offense the ball at the 40. And still couldn’t score points. One year removed and Trestman is 2nd in the league in points scored

          • MB30SD

            I have zero love for lovie… wait… anyway, none. And come to think of it, very little respect as an NFL coach. In fact, I curse him. I’m coming here to beat the packers my ass. What twice in 6 years?

            Can’t stand the guy (as a coach, I’m sure he’s a good man and a good dude to hang out with). He’ll keep that bucs team square in mediocrity… like he always does. his teams, like everything about him, will always be average

          • Johnathan Wood

            to be fair, he had a better than .500 record against Favre’s GB teams. Just got pasted by Rodgers.

          • MB30SD

            I don’t care. That was his battle cry and he failed…. miserably.

            Once when I was in attendance at solider, with the rest of the blog reg royalty (GP and kinda shady get a pass since they were both on their death bed… and we couldn’t find Corm who was one section over)

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            agreed. A scheme works well when the players are all awesome.
            Like an elite quarterback…..surrounded by hall of famers at half the positions.

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            That TB team was erratic last year, but its roster has talent. Lovie can easily turn it around, but they’re not beating us. Period.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      The Bucs are on the cusp, no doubt.

  • gpldan

    Kiper just released Mock 3.0 and moved Mack to being #1 overall for the Texans. At OLB.

    Now he’s just stirring the pot.

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      Mack as first pick is downright silly.

  • Johnathan Wood

    Tillman is back.

    That is all.

    I am soooooo happy.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      I expect Weems being let go as the next move.

      • Johnathan Wood

        could be. could wait until camp to cut him. We’ll see.

        I think FA is pretty much done now besides minimum-level deals. They’re pretty much capped out at this point.

        • EnderWiggin

          Is Wootton still on the radar? I do like the versatility.

          • Johnathan Wood

            all the guys in the know (beat writers with sources) think Wootton is gone. I can’t figure out why, but that’s the prevailing opinion.

            Only way I see him back at this point is if he gets no interest due to hip injury and signs one-year small deal hoping to hit market next year. He wants to start, and Bears have their starters already.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            DE’s already on the roster: Houston, Young, Bass, Washington (plus other guys getting cut) and a draft pick. Think we’re set.

          • Johnathan Wood

            I would feel much better with Bass as DE4. Him (or Washington) making a jump this year would be huge for the D.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Agreed.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          Yeah that sucks, I wanted Pat Sims, DT from OAK.

          • Johnathan Wood

            they have 3 solid DTs already and are likely to round that rotation out in the draft, IMO. 3T and S are biggest needs now, likely to be first 2 picks in some order

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            3? Nate Collins is coming back from a torn ACL and Paea can’t stay healthy. Depth was a serious issue last year.

          • Johnathan Wood

            They’re both guys capable of giving you 30-40 solid snaps a game, IMO. 3 guys who can all do that. Add in one more for a full DT rotation.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            D line depth kept us from the playoffs and a damn good record.

    • Willie

      YAY

      • MB30SD

        log. on. petro.

    • Trac

      That is great. In the end Tillman really is living the Chicago life. My buddy does business with him and the Tillmans love the life they have in Illinois. This is one of those situations where the City of Chicago may have had something to do with him staying.

    • SC Dave

      Best news in awhile!!!

  • gpldan

    Shady –

    I have found this season’s suitable replacement for Memesay:

    http://www.youdubber.com/index.php?video=C25r8eN44yA&video_start=0&audio=K_Hx2NjfO3U&audio_start=0

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    1 year, $3.5MM for Tillman and as data said, we are capped out.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Steve Smith to BAL, 3 year deal, per Schefter.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    OK, so if we say that MD Jennings and Jordan Palmer signed $1MM contracts each, Bears have $4,371,204 in cap room remaining.

    • Johnathan Wood

      Jennings’ is 650k

      • Johnathan Wood

        they have about $5M. Need about $2M to sign rookies, $3M in wiggle room for in-season stuff.

        Expect next step to be cost-saving moves. Cut Weems, cut/pay cut E. Bennett, extend Marshall. Those three could clear up another $5M or so which will give them the wiggle room they need.

        • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

          lol, Earl’s probably like “what the fuck man”.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        750 if he’s on the active roster for all 16 games.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Isn’t that for the draft class though?

  • MB30SD
    • MB30SD

      btw, I think this also shuts lance up and those two suck it up for one more year and lead this young D. I just pray (traaaac… huh! Cool huh!) that those two can stay healthy all year

      “I’m glad that I’m still together with my classmate, Lance Briggs,” Tillman said. “We’ve both started since the fourth game of our rookie and will continue to play together. It’s good to have a classmate. I can’t say enough about that.”

      • Johnathan Wood

        Briggs has already tweeted about 4 ecstatic things on Twitter. This has him 100% placated and on board for this year.

        • MB30SD

          Eeeeeeeeeeeeexcllent.

        • johnnywad

          He had better put down that burrito now and get his fat ass in the gym. He looked more like a bowler than a linebacker in December.

          • MB30SD

            hahahahaha…. more like I-talian beef. There ain’t no good burritos in Chi

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            not true my man. One need only drive to Blue Island, Pilsen or Ukrainian Village for some badass carne asada.

          • MB30SD

            Blue Island, Pilsen or Ukrainian Village.

            Dude. Here they’re called Roberto’s, filiberto’s, huberto’s…. you know… mexican names

        • just went to his twitter page to check it out. what the hell is this Lancescomicworld.com nonsense he links to on his bio?

      • i’m waiting for urlacher to come out and say he’s proud of the bears for showing loyalty and respect for one of their own.

        • MB30SD

          oh, and btw.. fuck urlacher. Doucheyene.

          Why can’t these guys be smart and gracious. smh.

          • Johnathan Wood

            Tillman handled this whole thing perfectly. So did McCown.

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            Pride cometh before the fall.

            See, I read my bible.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            If you’re reading this … I love you Brian.

        • Shady

          bwwaaahahahahaha that was good.

          • MB30SD

            i’m on. bring it!

          • MB30SD

            getting worked in public games

  • MB30SD

    jesus… seriously!?

    http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/browns-ask-ben-tate-or-rookie/

    Those poor poor fans. The factory of sadness is at full steam

  • MB30SD

    So like jeff says, right now it’s:

    Young/(rd 3 or 4?) | Ratliff | RD 1 or 2 (Hageman/Nix II (boom!)) | Houston

    Lambo | DJW | Bostic/Greene/CD/(rd 3 or 4?)

    THE NUT!!!!! | Jennings/(rd 3 or 4)

    Mundy | (Rd 1 or 2 – Pryor/Dix)

    • Johnathan Wood

      still need a starting 3T and S in the draft.

      Ideally get a 3T in round 1 (DONALD!!!!) and a S in round 2. If SS, Conte starts and Mundy is 3rd S. If FS, Mundy starts and Conte is 3rd S.

      not perfect, but you take what you can get.

      • MB30SD

        agree… so… let me do this. Let’s say we take pryor at 14. What will be there at 3T in rd 2 for us?

        I ask, because it seems like there’ll be some really strong options at 3T in rd 2, whereas all the good FS will be gone by then… so why not take pryor in 1 and get a strong 3T in 2… because I think if we’re realistic about it, donald ain’t gonna make it to 14.

        • Johnathan Wood

          I think Donald does last to 14 personally, but I could see S if he’s gone.

          In terms of 3T outside of rd 1, the guy I like the best is Dominique Easley. he’s from UF and has shredded both knees, but was a top 10-15 pick if that 2nd one didn’t happen last fall. Could be great value in round 2.

          Other later options include guys like Anthony Johnson, Ego Ferguson, Will Sutton. Later round I like Caraun Reid, kid from Princeton.

          WOuldn’t mind Sutton at DT, but risky. You’re banking on getting 2012 form instead of 2013. Much like Jeffery, claims it was a weight issue and he’s since lost the weight.

          • MB30SD

            thanks. what I’m trying to ascertain is… if donald is gone @ 14, we just say screw it, let’s solve our 10+ year FS woes and pick up pryor or dix… we can still find our starting 3T in 2.

            If this is the case, I personally think that’s the better route to go, since you KNOW you’re definitely getting BPA with the safety spot. Of course to trac’s point, phil may have other lock-on plans.

            I just hope he’s not trying his reaching project shit when there are so many obvious home runs at that pick in this draft.

          • tobijohn

            Whether it was Lovie and Rod or a Tall White whispering in his ear that time or not, I think he learned his lesson with McClellin and Hardin.

          • MB30SD

            better have tj

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            I thought I had Phil pegged in his first draft and thought he was going to pick Chandler Jones instead we got the great white hope. So I have no clue who he is going to pick, I know who I would like, but I’ll be way off. FYI last year it was Ogletree.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            The home run is in my handle, hermano. I wanted to sell our drafts for Suh, for Keuchly, but this guy will be there at #14 …. HE’S A FREAK !

          • MB30SD

            Huh???

            Sweetness is dead maings (moment of silence please). He won’t be available at #14

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Oh that’s funny. That’s killing me. You’re high-larious MB. If that was a tweet I’d re-tweet that.

            Look at a vid, get back to me and tell me you don’t want him in a Bears jersey ….

          • SC Dave

            With a name like Ego, maybe its worth a flyer.

            I keed maings

    • johnnywad

      Lets assume Emery hits on at least two picks in the draft. That’s pretty solid work given Lambo and the spot filled by (Bostic/Greene/CD) were the only ones with a contract when the season ended.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      There is sooo much time left in FA… I would not assign spots just yet. Emery will not go into the draft with that pair of S. He will get a starter in FA… then make all others fight for the other spot.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        No tenemos dinero :o(

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      not NIX, please no. His knees can’t support his fatness. Nix and Melton were designed to hold no more than 275 on their bodies at the most.

      • MB30SD

        I just didn’t really know who was a projected 3T at our 2nd round pick. Data likes easley? I have no idea who the tier 2 guys are or whether they’ll be there at our 2nd round pick.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          C’mon MB look at the tape on Tuitt and tell me he couldn’t play 3T … DE … block kicks … run back kicks …. cure cancer … whateverthefuck …. and he’s only 20!!!

  • johnnywad

    Peanut’s deal might be throwing good money after bad if that knee isn’t right. But I don’t care. This is the one dude I don’t mind taking a chance on.

    • Johnathan Wood

      he’s a $10M/yr player when healthy. Worth risking $3.5M on for one year.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Emery is boss.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Also…he will not draft a Dt at 14… I can tell you that for sure. The only way he does that is if he trades down to gain extra picks.

      • MB30SD

        so who are we taking at 14 barb…

        • Trac

          Watch it, she’s likely to tell you. I mean really tell you. She is a she, right?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I’m a 30 years old dude from Romania. That’s Europe… you didn’t know that, right ?

          • Trac

            Sorry pal, I don’t know any dudes in the U.S. that go by Barb. To be honest, I had a hard time putting your vocabulary with anything but a bar tramp. No offense intended.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Well, ‘Trac’ is not an english word, you moron. At best is sounds like a place where gay dudes go to fuck each other on the clock. One ass…5 minutes.

          • Trac

            Oh brother. Are all Romanians this funny? lol

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Finally you get it. <:)))

          • Trac

            Ha, I knew a couple of Romanian guys once! Well kinda.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpFNC7puU2M

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Well…I’ve never met an american and I can’t say I’m the biggest fan, but in sports I do respect the american teams…Manchester United and the Washington Redskins. For what that’s worth.

          • Shady

            Hold on… What?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Don’t get mad. I made a mistake… I forgot about the Chicago Blackhawks, How could I ? 6 hours ago I watched their game against the Avalanche. How about that Kane goal ? Almost as good as Towes’s against the Penguins at Soldier Field.

          • johnnywad

            Right.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            LOL. “The word tractor was taken from Latin, being the agent noun of trahere”. In romanian it’s ‘tractare’…cause we’re half latin.

            Well,barb comes from my name… Barbu Mihai. It’s just written Barb UMihai for anonymity reasons.

          • johnnywad

            Dude. You just blew your cover.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            The cover is for facebook purposes, not dabearsblog. None of my exes write on this site. PS: I’m connected with facebook.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            I did not know that.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          S, CB, DE. I’d say he takes a OLB before a DT, but that would be to much… because of former Number 99. Emery has a vision with the D. That DT position is the last piece of order… plus a rookie DT can’t give you much in the first year & the bust risk is high. He’ll get one in the second round, or if he trades down. PS: Mark my worlds… at 14 he’ll take the best TE in the draft rather then a DT.

          • MB30SD

            TE?!?!?! no way man, no fucking way. I will drop a fucking brick if he does something like that. fuuuuck noooo.

            Interesting perspective btw.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            What Pete Caroll did in Seattle with the Seahawks was a sport masterpiece. He changed in 3 years more than 90 % of the roster. Changed -I don’t remember exactly- about 25 players in his first year. He neved drafted a DT in the first round, maybe 1 in the second, but I doubt it. In the last 3 years the best 4 clubs drafted only one DT in the first round… Denver last year with Silvester Williams. We was bad… 10 times worse than Terrance Knighton, who they got for little money. My point is that smart teams draft skill players or OL high in the draft. Of course that changes if the DT is a clear starter from day one, like Star Lotulelei. But for one Latulelei there are 3-4 under performers… In the last 3 Drafts these are the DT that got drafted in the first round from pick 10 to pick 25 ish: Nick Fairley, Corey Liuget, Phil Taylor, Dontari Poe, Fletcher Cox, Michael Brockers, Sheldon Richardson, Star Lotulelei, Sharrif Floyd, Sylvester Williams. There are some good players, but no game changer. Last 3 fucking years. I’d rather get me a veteran who can do the same work, are proven and for similar money…then draft someone who can make game changing plays (or protect the 20% of the cap-the QB). If Emery takes a DT just remember… he’ll sit on the sideline on 3rd downs more likely than not. You’d rather draft a dude that comes on the field only for the 3rd down… as long as it isn’t our former number 99.

          • MB30SD

            See I like you barb. All fact zero bias.

            So why wouldn’t Phil take dix or prypr… skilled position of dire need, not a fat lazy linemen.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Your English is outstanding, my friend. Really.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Thanks man. But the site uses automatic corrections, so 50% of the grammar is taken care by that. In the same time I studied english in an intensive class (4 hours a week) from when I was 9 years old, up until 18 years old. Then the internet boomed and I read english and italian more then my native language. Like 100 times more.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Good for you. Italian too, eh? Great language, great country, great food/drink/music/art, great culture, great history, great women. Never got to do Italy. Maybe in the next life.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I’m a Juventus Torino fan from birth. Never visited either. Will do it next year. Maybe even go live there. See what’s what.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            TE? Are we back there again?

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            It’s rare for any rookie position outside HB/ILB to make an impact. It usually takes 3 years for most, CB, WR, DT, etc…

            Though exceptions always pop up. Like Suh his rookie year.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            If we draft Tuitt, we draft a guy who could play any position on that line. He picked up a loose ball and ran 75 yards to the endzone being pursued by DBs. They didn’t get anywhere near him. Now who else in the draft can do that who’s 6’5 and 300+ ? This like finding $1000 in front of a ‘gentleman’s club’ in Toyland, tripping over, falling inside the door which then timelocks until the following morning and Selena Gomez helps you up. This is a done deal.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I don’t know who that dude is, man. If he’s that fantastic I’m sure someone will draft him before Pick 14. After 2 drafts I stopped getting conned by pre draft bed time stories.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Nah, he had a hernia op and came back all out of shape, so his last year – he didn’t do shit. He’s coming out a year early too .. .dude’s only 20 … he’s a behemoth but he’s built, fast – and he’s under the radar – didn’t know who he was until George mentioned him. Can’t believe he’s not being talked about. Good news for us

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            You sure he can’t be taken in the second round ? If he was bad last year, injured and nobody talks about his… he is the typical second round, possible future steal. You see ? Emery WILL NOT pick a injured player who did shit last year at 14. My point. That’s the second round TD I see him choose.

          • CanadaBear

            Why were guys on his own team chasing after him?

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Because he’s that cool.

      • johnnywad

        He’s going to trade down for extra picks AND draft a DT at 14? Clever bastard.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          He’ll get a DT if he trades down. He will not trade up or stay put and draft a DT. PS: My post is clear. I don’t understand the confusion “The only way he drafts a DT is if he trades down to gain extra picks”

          • johnnywad

            “He will not draft a DT at 14….. The only way he does that is if he trades down to gain extra picks.”

            Don’t forget the “at 14” out of convenience there shitty pants. Just jerking your chain a bit. Are all Romanians twitchy like you? Chillax my man.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            He will not draft a DT at 14….. The only way he does drafts a DT if he trades down to gain extra picks.”
            I understand you like to jerk it…leave me out of it… you bisexual little wanker.

          • johnnywad

            Twitchy. Like an angry old broad.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Chill young man.

          • Trac

            lol. Ah, nothing like the off season. hahaha.

          • johnnywad

            🙂

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Again, if he drafts Tuitt, he has a physical specimen who can play DE/DT. That makes for a lot of possibilities depending on who gets injured etc.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            If he has such a great PR, he’ll get drafted before the Bears come into play.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Doesn’t look like he has any PR. He’s god-fearing – and I like my players god-fearing – so he believes he’ll get drafted where God intends. At #14 …. by my Bears!

  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

    I like the Peanut re-signing. I think it helps solidify a position that we couldn’t address this year in the draft. I think it makes it a bit easier to get some FA veteran defenders to come over and actually believe that the Bears D won’t be the worst in the league.
    I want another vet safety brought in. I want a cheap vet DL brought in not named Sedrick Fucking Ellis. I want a Safety drafted in 1st or 2nd round and a DT as well.

  • Sactowns#1

    Ah Peanut coming back just made my day. I’m getting pretty pumped for this upcoming season. Our D is going to be vastly improved and we havent even drafted yet! Add that to our O having yet another year to digest the playbook and add some wrinkles to some plays and this team should be mighty tough to beat.

    • SC Dave

      Agree, assuming:
      1) Injuries do not strike too hard
      2) Cutler does not go Frank Thomas on us (sign the big deal and never be near as good again)

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        Dave, I think he’s already made like 42 million dollars. I’m thinking this new contract is not going to change things.

        • Johnathan Wood

          1st deal wiht Chicago (that just finished) was over $50M. Plus his rookie contract.

          • MB30SD

            fuck me maing. I obviously picked the wrong parents.

          • tobijohn

            You can always sue them…

          • Trac

            lol. bad, verrry bad.

          • MB30SD

            Ha good one. Our society is sad…. very sad.

        • SC Dave

          I sure hope not, unless for the better. But you know we’ve seen it before

  • Viva

    Dear Peanut,
    Nobody has ever asked me to do a Bear Mount Rushmore, but if I was asked, you would be on it. Look forward to you making Megatron look mini, and hope your career ends in Da uniform.
    Viva

  • johnnywad

    I don’t tweet. Ever. So I just tried to follow a string of tweets attached to Peanut’s twitter handle. Is that English? Am I supposed to be able to understand that somehow? Or do you click on that shit and follow it to something you can read. #Fuck@me. #@@/a Hol#y Sh@/##it.

    • tobijohn

      It works for Jadeveon Clowney and it works for me: ” I stay out of bars and I stay off Twitter”…
      To your question, I have no f’n idea…

  • johnnywad
    • Trac

      My fave has to be the piece on the Cowgirls. What a tool Jerra is. Too bad he doesn’t own the Packers.

      • SC Dave

        I’m giving you a hearty amen on that last sentence, brother Trac!

  • Trac

    A most curious thought. Why are there no broads on Da Blog? I thought we had one until I just found out Barb is a dude.

    • johnnywad

      I think its MB’s boobies

      • SC Dave

        Probably so… that gal from Greenville was pretty alright

      • SC Dave

        Perhaps if we had an off-season thread or two about shoes?

        • tobijohn

          Don’t get catty…

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Trac could post some threads about dildos.

          • Trac

            Has Romania ever won a war? Thank you, that is all.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            At least we don’t invent wars our of thin air and then lose them… war against drugs, war against fat food, was against blacks, war against arabs, war against asian countries, war against immigration, war against debt, war against wars,…and so on. Remember… just because they told you you’ve won doesn’t make it true. Just ask Lincon, JF Kennedy or Martin Luther King. Oh…you can’t. My bad.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Tell it brother !

            {IRISH!}

            Sorry.

          • bearsfantillend

            damn I did not know we have a war against fat food… I think I should get a medal for all the Twinkies i have deliciously killed.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            You have wars you don’t even know about. My case in point. PS: If you want to lose wight those Twinkies caused you should go and get some movement… visit a Mall.

          • bearsfantillend

            It was the war on drugs, that lead me to the unknown war on fat foods. I do my best to burn up and destroy all the weed i can, But somehow after each battle with weed it always leads to the attacks on the Twinkies. vicious cycle that i hope never ends.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Tell me about it. hahah.

          • MB30SD

            The Exploding heart medal

            Congratulations General diabeetus

          • MB30SD

            hahahahaahahaha

          • johnnywad

            Well no. But they have Count Dracula. Right?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Johnny Deep is from Kentucky, man !!!

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Ah, just saw ‘Blow’ again today. Great flick. And then there was a Phillip Seymour Hoffman flick I hadn’t seen from 2007 – Before the devil knows you’re dead. Great story.

          • CanadaBear

            Marisa Tomei looks pretty good in that one!

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Oh the titties are on show for sure, and very nice they are too. Good girlfriend material, our Marisa.

            But there’s no need for marriage … hearin’ that Woodsy? Don’t give her the big ticket. That’s all they want.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Blow is a fantastic movie. One of my favorites. Loved Interview with a vampiere, also. Didn’t see the Pirates series, I don’t know if it’s worth the time.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Pirates 1 was good.

          • MB30SD

            hahahahahahaha

        • johnnywad

          That would do it. I’d prefer not to lure in the crazies though.

    • CanadaBear

      Not sure but really don’t care. Maybe we’re too crude (not you, but a few of us). There used to be a couple of women on the old CS blog but they disappeared in the last year or two. Nothing against them but if they aren’t adding value it makes no difference.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        They didn’t disappear man, we disappeared them. Any black dudes other than me on here? Is it just angry old white men?

        • CanadaBear

          If I remember correctly you were usually the one to hit them up with a “Hey now” or “How you doing” or something like that. It always made me laugh.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            If you’re not in you can’t win, C-Bear. Am I right? The more lines in the water ….

            Anyway, you know that the ladies don’t even read this blog – if they did there’d be a lot more ‘vote downs’ on ‘sexist’ comments.

            Aside: One of my fellow teachers (math) is in his late fifties, Aussie. He was married, had a degenerative back disease so he had to get up early and sim laps at school, taught privately after school to pay for the whole shebang – swimming pool, life’s finer things yada yada … he was hardly ever at home … so when his daughter is four, the wife kicks him out and moves the boyfriend in, and he still has to pay for it all, right? So he eventually starts dating this girl, they break up, and they’re sitting in this bar. He gets into her about women just wanting the big ticket, get married, get the guy to set it all up, kick him out and start living the life. She’s had a few and she just blurts out … “YES !! YES I WANT IT ALL !!”

        • MB30SD

          I know a ginger black guy. Good dude.

  • CanadaBear

    Have to laugh at all the articles about the worst FA signings. How is the 2-year deal for Cortland Finnegan to Miami going under the radar. He was so bad last year he was getting benched about twice/game.

    • Trac

      I have got to admit that the only curious FA signings I can recall the Bears have made in recent years was Roy Williams and Manu. Those two signings coupled with Martz and the Hester experiment was the beginning of the end for Angelee.

      • SC Dave

        Roy Williams was pathetic, though that heroin dealer was no far behind

        • Trac

          Embarrassing to say the least but I couldn’t really fault the football decision for signing Hurd.

          • Cormonster

            Hurd sold weed to his friends. Big deal. The cocaine shit was entrapment, and it was a miscarriage of justice. The dude never was convicted of selling even 1 gram of coke. He was convicted of “conspiracy” to sell coke. The drug war is a disgrace.

          • Trac

            I’m a big anti-dope guy Cor. Period. Not going to get into a debate on THAT but what he was doing was illegal, stupid and reckless. He layed down with dogs and woke up with more than flee’s. People get fleeced by the system every day which is even more reason to do the right thing even when nobody is looking.

          • Cormonster

            Are you against opiates and methamphetamines being used as prescription drugs to treat pain and ADHD? Because those are the most abused drugs in the country and cause more deaths than illegal heroin, cocaine, crack, and meth combined.

          • Trac

            You don’t have to tell me about this Cor. I am well aware that a huge amount of people are hopped up on one thing or another. The way I look at it is that life is hard enough without having to contend with an addiction that sucks the life out of you or your loved ones. I need every advantage I can get to sustain a happy marriage, raise my kids and support my family and there is no room to be careless or selfish in my life. I’m a pragmatism when it comes to this issue.

          • Cormonster

            I’m a pragmatist too Trac. I’ve came to the conclusion over the years that the “War on Drugs” is more harmful than the drug use by the average person. I urge you to check out a couple interviews with an ex cop.

            http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=DzOHQdKRANA

            http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=qj3gnIGANhs

            The US War on Drugs has harmed millions of people much more than the drugs themselves.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            No drug affects more people and wrecks more lives than alcohol. Freely available and celebrated in superbowl commercials watched by children. SMH.

          • Cormonster

            The dogs he was laying down with were undercover cops trying to sell him drugs and coerce him into being a dealer!

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            But drug-users should not go to jail, Trac. They’re sick, suffering in some way, and jail is not the place for them. That just makes it a lot worse, and takes up space that real criminals should be occupying IMHO. The only reason alcohol is legal is because it’s taxed. A harmless medicine like cannabis can get you banged up for possession and that’s just insane. Thankfully the States seem to be coming around, now that they can tax it …

          • CanadaBear

            Colorado pulled in $2 mil in pot taxes in January. At some point all the rest of the states are going to come around. They did it with gambling. It’s just a matter of time.

          • Trac

            The question a person should ask themselves is why risk your life and your freedom for a temporary buzz that could kill you? They don’t care I’m afraid. If they don’t care then there’s nothing you can do to help them whether its legal or not. Once again, Christ covered this as well.

          • MB30SD

            Wasn’t ‘the burning bush’ a euphemism?

          • Trac

            Many people have come to Christ that were once hopeless alcoholics and drug addicts. They change when they have lost all hope and hear the message of the gospel sometimes. You can help a loved one but they must choose to reject the drugs and thier lifestyle first.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            That’s true.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Cannabis can’t kill you Trac, it’s not toxic, like alcohol.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            And to paraphrase Bill hicks … “The people on drugs are winning it.”

      • Johnathan Wood

        How about repeatedly paying big $$ for old backup RBs who aren’t that good anymore?

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Sam Dealer …..

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      It was a mental thing with Finnegan. It’s like he wanted to be cut and shit. It’s not like he was engaged at 100 % and got beat… he has out of it. Like he didn’t watch an hour of film all year. I don’t know why (I don’t buy the ‘he was injured excuse they gave), but that shit is over he’ll be a great sign.

  • johnnywad

    Hester got a job yet?

  • SC Dave

    Get you some, bitches! It’s National Potato Chip Day!

    • MB30SD

      Hahahaha… it’s national Peanut day in Chicago. How you like dem apples!

      • gpldan

        In Romania it’s National Turnip day. If you can find a non-rotten Turnip at the farm collective you can fuck “on the clock”, whatever the hell that means.

  • Trac
    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      No way that rookie starts though – that’s why Josh is there – if he does, then Lovie really was deprived oxygen at birth.

      • bearsfantillend

        yep no way a rookie starts, just like Seattle winning all those games with Matt Flynn, oh wait they started a 3rd round rookie.

        • MB30SD

          You’re forgetting the Colts and pretty much the 9ers

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Lovie isn’t paying him 5M a year to sit on the bench, he’ll mentor the rook and teach by example … if Lovie’s smart about it. Matt Flynn, Aaron Rodgers, Steve Young .. whoever … all learned by sitting n the bench. Okay, Matt Flynn doesn’t belong in that sentence.

          • bearsfantillend

            “if Lovie’s smart about it” you are expecting Lovie to be smart about something on the offensive side of the ball….LMFAO

  • Trac

    Reading the comments section, the Ravens fans make Michael Oher look like J’Marcus Webb.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/14/michael-oher-signs-with-the-titans/

  • gpldan
    • Cormonster

      I’ll try this again. How about these guys for the house band?

      http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=1qQQaHwfZ3w

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      That play at 1:02 is classic Cutler. Look at the top of the screen. He’s wide open in the flat, just sitting there. Cutler doesn’t even look. He’s like “Fuck this. Bombs away, Bitches. Doooon’t Carreee”

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        “Hey … wow .. Jay? Hi Jay, I was in Vandy …..”

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      To Cutler’s ying, there was McCown’s yang. Fare thee well, Joshua Treadwell McCown.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJhGgnM28Qo

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgVoo83ImVI

        I’m going to post Cutlers 2009 through 2014 TD’s and great plays for you guys to see how most of them happened. It’s pretty amazing to watch. I love Josh but Jay is an incredible talent and in the 2nd year of this system its going to get crazy.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          No arguments. Just wish they were BOTH on the team. It’s just nice if you have a guy waiting to come in that doesn’t make you want to puke. Let’s see how Phil handles the second most important spot on the roster.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            Lovie made him an offer he couldn’t refuse. No sane man would turn down starter money and the starting job as a 34yr old because he’s a “nice guy”. It would be like me turning down the job of CEO because I wanted to remain in sales so someone else could have a chance.

            I think Phil knows how important a solid backup is that can run the system. Let’s watch it play out.

  • CanadaBear

    Have to laugh at the Fudgie trolls. EVERY Bears article on ESPN Chicago has comments from the trolls. Apparently there isn’t much to do in Cheeseland except sniffing the Dairy Air(s). One of my favorites so far is some douchebag that has commented on every Bears article by making fun of the MD Jennings signing. It’s always followed by about 100 LOL’s. #1 Jennings was signed for next to the min. He’s going to be mostly ST’s. #2 Anyone that uses LOL’s reminds me of a teenage girl. The more LOL’s the younger they are. #3 Sam Shields at $39 mil over 4 years is beyond ludicrous. I refuse to engage with trolls so that’s why I vented here.

    • Cormonster

      LOL.

    • Johnathan Wood

      Jennings was signed to veteran minimum with no guaranteed $$ and will have to earn a roster spot in camp.

      A S who spent most of last year starting for GB is a long shot to earn a backup role in Chicago.

      LOL

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Every thread on ESPN Chicago is written by trolls. That site gives you 0 information. It’s pathetic and uses tons of CPU Usage.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        Computer speak! Bring it Barb!

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Now that’s something I don’t know shit about. I just know that my PC runs 2 times slower when I enter that shitty site that doesn’t even give you game time actives and inactives until the Bears game has already started. My brother is a Patriots fan and the ESPN Boston is top quality. They cover the Patriots like nothing I’ve ever seen.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            You’ll always have ’85. They can win another ten Lombardis … but you’ll always have The Season.

            Fucking Dolphins.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I’m more of a ’10 Lombardis for me, you take your season’ kind of guy.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      They wouldn’t have understood your connected sentences anyway, C-Bear.

  • Johnathan Wood

    so this happened…

    I tweeted “MD Jennings is pure, absolute garbage. I will be shocked if he makes the roster.”

    SOme random person (must be his cousin or something) somehow found this tweet (I didn’t tag anybody in it because who the fuck tags insults at a professional athlete?) and responded with:

    have your ass EVER PLAYED PRO? #FUCKOFF

    Woohoo! I think I officially have my least favorite Bears player.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      You’re getting too big for your britches on Twitter!

      Luckily, I’m too insignificant to inspire contempt over there.

      It’s also fallacious that a person has had to play football to analyze correctly.

      That’s like saying a President must have had to serve in the military to be a victorious Commander and Chief. Lincoln did alright.

      • Johnathan Wood

        Matt Millen played in the NFL. Phil Emery did not.

        I rest my case.

        • johnnywad

          Probably the CTE.

      • Johnathan Wood

        as to the “too big for my britches” thing, the only thing I can think is that she searched for “MD Jennings” on twitter and found this. I tweeted it a day ago and it hasn’t had anything happen since then, and she JUST found it over 24 hours later. So it’s not like she randomly stumbled upon it.

        • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

          haha. I have a policy of not following any of the players. Trying to keep my ‘objectivity’ thought Black Uni is tempting me to break that rule.

          My handle is Butch Deadlift @ butchdealift. I have the same avatar, and my background is Putin riding a Bear.

          https://twitter.com/ButchDeadlift85

          • Johnathan Wood

            I follow players and will interact with them sometimes. It’s fun.

            But I will never tag a player in anything bad I say about them. That’s just dumb and pointless.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Just like most of them, Johnny ….

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            I stopped after I realized they just post photos of their new sneakers every day, or plug their own business ventures. Please stand up J’Marcus Webb (sneakers), and Lance Briggs (bidniz).

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            And still I wait to hear from James Robert McMahon.
            29 years after I first wrote to him, the tender feelings of a young –

            {IRISH! NO!}

            Sorry.

      • Johnathan Wood

        what’s your Twitter handle? I should follow you (if I don’t already)

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        I played at the absolute lowest organized level on planet Earth, and am glad to have done so. It took up all my Sundays, beginning before sun-up, rain or shine. Cost me money too.That’s why it’s hard for me to see players like Cracker say “Pay me 8 million dollars or I’m going back to killing deer…”

        They’re big, spoiled, privileged babies .. doing something the rest of did for free, and would do so now if the body was able.

        Oh, but you’re excused for today, Peanut. Welcome back son.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    Peaaaannnuutttt!!!

    Prepare your angus, NFCN.

    IT’S. ON.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    The U.S. Government officially turns over the web to the masses (so they say). They got tired of investigating every time someone typed “Arab” + “Blasting” only to discover it lead to porn sites 99.99% of the time.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/us-to-relinquish-remaining-control-over-the-internet/2014/03/14/0c7472d0-abb5-11e3-adbc-888c8010c799_story.html

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Googling anything leads to porn sites.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)
    • MB30SD

      Does anyone even know how you plant seedless grapes?

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      How DO celebrities get to address Congress? Just because they’re celebrities?

      Has anyone got Roseanne’s email address? I’ve got a few questions here …..

  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

    Peppers just signed with the Packers

    • MB30SD

      Ewwwwww

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        well, unfortunately he may now be motivated. a motivated peppers is dangerous. He is there for one reason. To put Cutler out for the year.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Long will fuck him up if that happened

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            the damage will already have been done. Julius Peppers had a brutal year by his standards. He is now going to be playing less snaps with more effectiveness. I’m thinking that is not good for opponents.

          • CanadaBear

            Can’t disagree about Pep but he took about half the games off last year. If any OL has an idea how to handle Pep it should be the guys that saw him everyday. Hopefully he’s just collecting a pay check.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            hopefully, but i think he will know how to expose our guys since he saw them every day in practice. Pride and healthier feet will take over. Cutty just needs to get the ball out quick.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m not sure if plantar fascitis (sp?) ever gets better.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Let’s hope not.

          • SC Dave

            no, he wont

        • BearFanInDE

          “Nice quarterback you got there…”

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      That’s stupid. Way to use FA… do they know what FA means ? Giving a 34 yeard old a 3-year contract worth a max of $30 million that includes $7.5 million guaranteed and a first year salary will be $8.5 million is so stupid that stupid doesn’t cut it. Peppers is just the guy to enjoy Wisconsin… now I’m from Eastern Europe, but Wisconsin it’s just like Miami, right ? And the Milwaukee Bucks are 1 player away from beating the Heat… I know that for sure.

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        Barb, he will be part of an OLB pass rushing rotation now which means less plays, more effort, less wear and tear. he will fucking kill people this year I promise you that. This will come back to haunt us. Peppers will be playing with a MASSIVE chip on his shoulder.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Peppers doesn’t give a shit. He is a basketball player wannabe who plays football in order to ‘put food on the table’. He’s done with that, so he’s done with football.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            That is simply not correct. If you don’t think a guy like that has pride you’re crazy. He’s a physical freak of nature and he’s going to a new team. It’s like dating a new girl. You put in maximum effort when the relationship first starts. No pro player wants to be known as soft or as a punk.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            They have Arron Rodgers. That’s who makes me paranoid from the Packers team. He is at level 10 from that point of view. Peppers is at 4-5. Matthews is at 7 and I don’t give a shit much about him either. They have Arron fucking Rodgers !!! The others are side kicks.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            I’m inclined to agree. He’ll take half his plays off, but he’ll be fired up come our games. The fact that they’ll use him sparingly is bad news for us though. Then again .. mongo .. jimmy mac … fuckit.

          • Trac

            I’ve got a name for you. Alan Page.
            Look him up.

            I was afraid something like this would happen when we cut Peppers. His name will be come up often when we play the Cheese and our opponents are now better than they were before signing him.

          • bearsfantillend

            also look up Reggie White, I think he was 33 when he signed with the Packers. and he was Defensive Player of the Year when he was 37.

          • johnnywad

            Pepp ain’t Reggie White

          • bearsfantillend

            thats true. he ain’t Alan Page either. But it doesn’t mean he cant be productive at his age. And it is not entirely stupid for any team to give him the contract the Packers did.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            … or Alan Page.

          • Big Mike

            He won’t suck, but he won’t put them over the top. Bears win NFC north. Peppers stays home from playoffs again.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            All hail Alan Page.

            But their O-line isn’t better after the signing and they have neither the money nor a bunch of top picks to fix it. Tee Hee !

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            The only Supreme Court Peppers will ever come close to will be the Miami Heat’s American Airlines Arena basketball court. And that’s until King James plays there. That’s fact.

          • Big Mike

            Peppers is an upgrade. Had to go. Bears are better off as well. Just about all of our offseason moves were only possible because we cut JP. That includes keeping Tillman. Now we draft a DT/DE/Safety. Would love Melton or Wooton to come back to us.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Melton’s talking to the Seahawks and we don’t have the cash to sign him anyway, Wooten’s got hip-surgery for us to ponder. My man could play either of those positions and allow us to be more flexible and versatile on the line. Let’s get younger and move away from injury concerns.

          • Big Mike

            No question we need to draft that position. Would still like one of those guys back. Wooton was starting to come along. Might be cheap. Watched video of your guy. Not a value pick at 14 is my opinion.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          I always bet on prototypical 34 years old DE who now play in a OLB rotation. Or not. In Wisconsin-Dade County.

        • johnnywad

          Maybe so but doesn’t it seem like the Bears are ideally equipped to make him a non factor? Pretty good line. Bushrod on one end and Long on the other helping out Mills, not to mention Black Uni. Year two in Trestman’s O with quick shit to Alshon and Brandon. I don’t think this hurts the Bears much.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            talk me down, talk me down. I’m not happy about these developments.

          • johnnywad

            Try this on for size. In the last four days, the Packers have committed $70M to Sam Shields (Sam fucking Shields???????) and Julius Peppers while doing nothing to improve the steaming pile of shit they call an offensive line. A line that Shea McClellan piles up stats on. Shea fucking McClellan. Meanwhile, Phil Emery is methodically rebuilding the Defensive Line in Chicago. Both DE’s the Bears signed have more gas in the tank than Pepp. We’ll be just fine. Phil is in control.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            I just have a sick feeling:

            Pep + rushing from the 3-4 OLB position and stunting = separated shoulders

          • Johnathan Wood

            He’ll be a 3-4 DE, IMO. Not fast enough to be an OLB anymore

          • burntorangenavyblue

            He will have more plantar’s fasciitis and tundra toes in GB….see what I did there? Ok I will let myself out

          • AlbertInTucson

            AND, the Lovie just signed away the Pack’s starting center, Evan Dietrich-Smith which will NO please Mr. Rodgers.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            This is great. They’ll be standing outside McDonald’s restaurants with signs saying “O-line help wanted”.

            I think Phil’s worried about signing Wooten because of his hip. I think he has to draft a DE in the first …. Hageman’s ethic/desire has been questioned … and I have a boner for the god-fearing behemoth from the Fighting Irish that we can plug in anywhere.

          • MB30SD

            2nd round maing

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Can’t see him lasting til the second, and certainly not til our pick. But if we did get him in the second, after picking up a stud DB in the first .. .then Christmas and Hannukah will have come early.

          • MB30SD

            hoping for pryor or dix @ 14

          • Big Mike

            Preach it brother..

          • MB30SD

            Unfortunately, I 100% agree with you maings.

            Pep is indeed a freak of nature, and regardless of what he does the rest of the year, in the two games against us he’ll bring his freakiest. He’s going to fuck us up… just hope to god we minimize the damage and that he doesn’t hurt cutty.

            Our hands were tied, we couldn’t have kept him. Emery made the right decision, but the pack is pretty much the worse place he could have gone. Oh well, it’s done.

        • Big Mike

          didn’t the Bears give up about a million yards on screen passes? Wasn’t Peppers a part of the worst defense in the history of defense.

    • Trac

      Yup. Yellow Julius!

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      Get the fuck out of here.

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        i like your handle. Tuitt is a beast.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Finally. That’s two of us in the boat. Next stop … Emery’s beach house.

          • MB30SD

            gonna be 78 here today and 80 tomorrow.

            God I love this place. Ok, lads… off to take the kids to the Museum of nat hist and then space. Then the beach. Cheerio!

          • Cormonster

            Gotta check out the Field Museum of Natural History when in Chicago. It’s amazing.

          • Bender McLugh

            Link please?

  • BearFanInDE

    Let’s get bj raji

    • bearsfantillend

      he already resigned with Pack

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Thank god. He is awful.

        • Big Mike

          So now the Packers have the Redneck, the Fat ass and the old man…

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            the Redneck and the old man deserv somo respect. The fat guy is as bad as they get.

          • MB30SD

            Allen signed with the packers too?!?

          • Big Mike

            Referring io Matthews

          • Cormonster

            His name is Fabio.

          • Big Mike

            That’s right. Fabio, Fatso and now the Old Man.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Ugh, just found out from my wife that a good friend of ours and real estate agent had his house broken into by an armed intruder. The man put pillow cases over him, wife, and their sons and put them into bathroom. After awhile the man left after it was quiet and they are now ok. Only jewelry and money stolen but that is replaceable. My friend said that the guy got in through the accidentally left opened garage door. Just wanted to let you guys know that anything can happen in this crazy world and to just take a few moments to make sure you always lock your doors and close the garage bc people are getting so brazen now and my friends live in a nice neighborhood

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      jesus, good to hear they are ok. That’s fucking bullshit. We’re all fucking animals, some more broken than others.

      • SC Dave

        Or simply less disciplined.

    • Viva

      Glad to hear they are alive!

    • Viva

      FYI…if you park outside and have your garage door opener in your vehicle you may want to rethink it!

      • burntorangenavyblue

        My wife and I have debates on whether to keep one car or both cars in the garage. I like my car outside because I think that it is at least some buffer for a possible robber to think someone is home. If both cars are in the garage, it looks like someone may or may not be home and gives them a better reason to at least come up to the doors or windows. But then they’d be risking getting blown to pieces by my brother since he is a police officer that lives with me

        • Cormonster

          What part of the country do you live in?

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Northwest Indiana…..not near Gary though, it’s really bad over there

          • DaMurph

            son of a bitch burnt, you’re my neighbor!

        • MB30SD

          I keep a .40 near me in a lock box, I also have some serious shit locked up in the laundry room cabinets (8′ off the ground) is the shit really ever hits the fan.
          Most of the time it’s gonna be too late to get anything. Just gotta be vigilant and smart and hope they don’t pick your house.

          And hope to god it’s not your time ro have the kids if they come. For me at least.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            I have zero guns and don’t need ’em. Nothing good happens around guns or at two in the morning. It must be terrible to live in fear to the point where you feel the need to surround yourself with guns, mang.

            Then there’s the little kid part of me that thinks guns are cool. What’s the serious shit? Tell me, tell me!

          • MB30SD

            meh, normal way of life here. just for fun…. hopefully

          • CanadaBear

            I always recommended a 12 gauge shotgun. Crazy intimidating and you practically can’t miss up close. With 00 buck it’s like barking off 9 .32 caliber shots.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            That’s what I have, a Mossberg 590 special purpose shotgun. Don’t have to be too accurate with that puppy.

          • MB30SD

            oh yeah… gots onea thems too… foldout stock and tactical flash guard

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      If I’m a robberer those are just the places I’m going to attack… the ‘nice neighborhoods’.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

      I live near the equivalent of a crack village and that wouldn’t happen here. I drive my kids to the shops and leave the place wide open, knowing full well everything will be as is when I return. It’s considered rude to steal from someone else, or to beg. Even meth-heads are polite here. Things and people are fucked up in the States, man, simple as.

      Disclaimer : Nice neighbourhoods are always the targets … because they HAVE shit.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        I know nice neighborhoods have stuff….i said it because many people think that they are invincible, especially those that live in more affluent areas.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

          Better to live near the crims, they don’t shit where they eat!

          • CanadaBear

            I think you’re giving them too much credit.

    • CanadaBear

      Glad their OK. Everyone teases me about being paranoid because I always have the house locked during the day when we’re home. Doesn’t take much effort to unlock the door when friends stop by.

  • BearFanInDE

    Dang!

  • CanadaBear

    Hey Barbu, just wanted to let you know in North America when guys are teasing you it’s because they like you. Esp in the off season. On game days teasing people can get pretty dicey if the Beloved are getting their asses handed to them. If they don’t like you, they ignore you. I have no idea if that’s the way it is in Romania. To me it’s a sign you’ve been accepted by the regulars on here. The only reason I mention this is it seemed like you over reacted to some teasing. Not trying to be a smart ass. Glad you’re around. You do add value with your comments about football. Really don’t agree with your “no way we take a DT at 14” but difference of opinion makes the world go ’round. Cheers!

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Man, I know. My comments are all in good fun also. It’s just about how you react at the teasing… upping the ante is my style when there is a friendly environment. If it’s not I don’t spend my time in that joint. I find it to be more fun to respond on the same lever or worse. Like if a Bear ‘brother’ says ‘hey, girl’, I’m going to counterattack him. I think the only reason it might have not been obvious I am laughing my ass off writing on this site is that mentality ‘I have no idea if that’s the way it is in Romania’. Thats’ real life logic… it means close to nothing on the internet. Trust me… I’m a Sociology major. PS: That last part ? That’s a joke. Not the Sociology major…the ‘trust me’ part.

      • CanadaBear

        Good! I wasn’t sure and I didn’t want you to get all pissed off and go nuclear. If I haven’t posted it before, welcome aboard!

        • Cormonster

          Canada, always being the nice guy. Glad to call you my friend buddy.

          http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=BcbJGGjevOQ

          • CanadaBear

            Back at ya Cor. This is such a great place for Bears talk. To me it’s an oasis in the internet desert. Other than the occasional troll, it’s about the only place I can think of that doesn’t have about a million idiots posting inane comments (other than mine, of course). Not to mention, the Bears talk and info is head and shoulders above the big name sports sites. The only time it gets close to boiling over is on game days and usually by Tuesday everyone is back to being their old selves.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            All because of the new site…the last one was rubbish. I couldn’t write on that one. Had problems connecting… logging in.

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            Gnomes.

          • Cormonster

            Great analogy. Before I bumped into this site I used to read and post at the Scout site. There were some smart fans there, but most of the comments were inane bullshit. I got sick of that place after about a year, then came across this place and never went back. I’ve become a much more informed fan by reading this site.

          • Big Mike

            3 hours after a loss, I have been known to post drunken asshat comments. By Tuesday I come back and either apologize, or suck up by to someone by agreeing that McCown was the greatest QB in Bears history, or that Mike Brown should be in the HOF. 🙂

            In truth, a few well thought out comments or replies and your back in the fold…

          • CanadaBear

            Hey Cor, not sure what’s going on with your youtube links but lately every link goes to youtube but there isn’t any video selected.

          • Cormonster
          • CanadaBear

            Nope. Same thing. Maybe one of the other posters can chime in. It might be on my end. My computer IQ is so lame I have no idea.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

            Clear out your browser cache in your internet options – in Firefox that’s Tools > Options, in Chrome that’s the icon on the far top right of your screen (three horizontal lines) .. if you use Safari … you’re a fag. NTTAWWT.

          • CanadaBear

            Even I know Safari sucks moose wang!

          • MB30SD

            Hahahahaha… exctly (NTTIAWT)

          • Cormonster

            http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=BcbJGGjevOQ

            How about now? It’s the South Park skit aboot Canadians calling each other buddy friend and guy.

          • CanadaBear

            Cleared out the cache (usually pretty good about doing that) but still the same thing. Oh well.

          • MB30SD

            cor, it’s because you’re signed into your youtube account so your links are taking us to that main dropping off point. Sign out and you should be able to post normal links.

          • Cormonster
          • MB30SD

            same

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Thanks. First post here was 2 years ago.

          • CanadaBear

            Little slow in my old age!

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            No mate, it’s not you. I just don’t write much. 100 posts max. Just read and take in information.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Look… here are some statements Emery made in the last month. “I will just tell you we’re going to be a younger defense. The draft will be focused in that area. … Defensively, it was not about, is it D-line, linebacker, safety, it’s about finding the best playmakers, the guys that can make a dynamic difference to our defense.”………. “We need tough, physical players,” Emery said at the combine. “That’s what we want: tough, physical athletes. Mel [Tucker] has said it several times to me and I believe it. I know our players believe it: that, generally, the toughness of the team shows up at corner.” PS: I just don’t think the DT is what he is talking about. They don’t do a ‘dynamic difference’ if they are not Top class. And they have trouble making that difference from year 1. He has to draft a player that can make plays on third down… the DT can wait. He’ll get one in round 2. He wants the S, the CB, the DE, the OLB. He has to find the starters for those skill positions first… then create a scheme. Only then you take a DT that can play in that scheme. Starting a scheme with a DT is not the way to do stuff these days. This is not the 3T kind of NFL any more. At least winning teams don’t do that… the Patriots, the Seahawks, the 49ers DON’T DRAFT A DT IN THE FIRST 3 ROUND FOR 3 YEARS !!! Only Denver did it with Silvester Williams and he ended up as the 4th DT in the rotation. I trust Emery as a winner… so I say ‘he’ll only draft a DT at 14 if it’s a clear steal or he will not do it. That happens once every 4 years… the DT steal in the first round, that will not be on the board in the second round (example Geno Atkins).

      • CanadaBear

        Good stuff but I just can’t see us taking anything but a S or DT at 14. I’m totally OK with either but would prefer a DT. Mostly I just want the pick to be an impact player. With Peanut and Jennings back I can’t see a CB pick. We need to replace Peanut at some point but our D is so full of holes I think we have to wait til a later round.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          He will 100 % draft a player that’s on the field on 3rd downs. A CB is in play big time. A DE is in there also. Houston seems like he has 50% chance on going inside in pass rushing situations. Safety is the best bet, but I don’t think he’ll reach for one.

          • Trac

            That argument goes both ways. If Phil picks a CB and he wiffs, our 3rd down production suffers. If he goes for a meat and potatoes DT then at least we have that. CB has not seemed to work out for us lately but then again, we haven’t picked this high in the draft in a while.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Yes, but the probability of a CB being on the field in nickel & dime is far superior to a rookie DT that can be better than Ratliff or Collins in those situations. Also it’s so much easier to wiff on a DT than a CB. Just go watch the drafts of the last 3 years. Get me a CB, S or DE…that’s all I ask and it’s what we will receive. Now is there a case where he can’t get the guy he wants for those 3 positions, he can’t trade down and the best DT is still on the board…then he’ll take that DT. But in normal conditions he’ll rather take the DT he loves at 51 rather then the best DT on the board that remains at 14.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Phil Emery drafted in his 2 years as a Bear GM at all positions but the QB and DT. He drafted OL, WR, TE, RB, DE, LB, OLB, CB, S. You can see it as coincidence, I see it as his modus operandi. And I don’t think that after never drafting a DT as a GM he now goes and gets one at 14.

  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKc9Jx1cU7o

    A little Alshon for your saturday morning.

    • SC Dave

      Best soundtrack on one of these in a loooong time. No obnoxious “music” that I had to mute.
      +many

  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!
    • CanadaBear

      If the Beloved can isolate the Black Unicorn or Forte vs Pep it has TD written all over it. Not happy he signed with the Fudgies but I don’t think he’ll be a game changer very often next year.

      • gpldan

        Pep may play hard against the Bears, but he will dog it the remaining 14 games for the Pack, and they will tire of that quickly.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Or his wheels will fall completely off and he wont play much at all. I can’t imagine his body will handle another move up north, this time to the tundras of GB. I think Long will do everything he can to make damn sure Peppers does not put a finger on Cutler

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      If I remember correctly, when he first left CAR, he said that he would play in either a 3-4 or 4-3, but preferred a 4-3, and many experts agreed his stature and skill set were much better suited for a 4-3.

      Now he’s claiming he always wanted to play for a 3-4? I call B.S. Pepp could have signed with ANY team coming out of CAR. He obviously wanted to continue playing in a 4-3.

      Now that he’s old, he didn’t have as many options. That’s what happens when you get old.

      • EnderWiggin

        The rumor was that Pep was leaving Carolina because he DID want to play in a 3-4 (as a OLB). That is why Lovie met him on a private jet in NC. “I’ll make you the best paid defender ever.”
        The media couldn’t believe it…. Then they saw the contract.

      • bearsfantillend

        it was all about the cash. Bears offer was the best. very few players will ever take the deal that is less money, and if they say its not about the money they are lying.

        • Cormonster

          Reggie White went to the Packers because God told him to, and not the money. The Packers just coincidentally also happened to offer him the most money.

          • bearsfantillend

            Yep good thing he trusted “God” to tell him what to do, since “God” has such a great track record, ie Inquisition, The Crusades, Witch Hunts, Catholic Priest Pedophilia… “God” has been known to give bad advice.

          • SC Dave

            Sure… look at the Federal Reserve Notes – they say “In God We Trust” right on the back.

          • and look at reggie now.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Wasn’t that NICE of God?

  • tobijohn

    I’m curious as to what the Bears saw (or didn’t) in Peppers to not even offer him any kind of deal. Would he have been worth $7.5M guaranteed to the Bears? $5M? $3M? Really, what would have been a fair price, all things considered?

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I think it is an accountability thing with the old Lovie crew. Emery isn’t fond of slackers or whiners. Tillman is a class act and that means a lot to Emery, even though he is a Lovie product. Tillman performed marvelously and stayed professional.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        I just hope Briggs ignores all words from Urlacher and that he stays a leader/mentor for the incoming class of D rookies, otherwise he may hurt the team chemistry early on and we have no marign of errors to be had for that type of BS if we want to be contenders

    • Johnathan Wood

      Peppers had to go. He needed to move on (same thing with Briggs next year, BTW)

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    Pepp to the Pack? WHAT. THEE. FUCK?

    What a god damn traitor. Then again, if I had to choose between playing for the Cowboys or the Pack…well, retirement time.

    Pepp doesn’t have to play the entire season for them. Just two games, against us. Pepp actually seemed to try against the Pack, so I imagine he’ll rest his feet a week before us.

    His contract seems like a lot though. Haven’t looked into the fine print, but how much does he costs the Pack cap if he gets cut next off-season?

    • CanadaBear

      He rested his feet A LOT last year. I read $7.5 mil guaranteed.

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

        Hmmm…Peanut got $3.5M for one year, so maybe that was the going rate for former PBs who might be over the hill.

        Still, that’s a lot for Pepp. He’s always been somewhat enigmatic. I could see him revitalizing his career, or retiring after this season.

        Plantar fasciatius doesn’t get better with age though. And if he’s going to play DE in a 3-4, that’s only going to wear down his body further. I don’t think he’ll be nimble enough at 34 (6’6 280 with bad feet) to play OLB. Those guys have to cover from time to time or else defeat the purpose of a 3-4, which is to confuse the QB as to where the rush is coming from.

        The Pack could play more 4-3, maybe they figure that would stand a better chance against the 9ers.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Once the feet go on big men it’s usually downhill. Bad feet shortened BIll Walton’s NBA career. Bad feet made Mark McGwire expendable in Oakland and turned him into a juicer so he could stay on the field in St. Louis.

    • Johnathan Wood

      the guy owes nothing to the Bears. Let him go where he wants and get paid. No hard feeling there on my part.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Really.

        “What a god damn traitor.” ?

        That is a totally whacked comment in today’s NFL.

        • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

          He was a CAPTAIN.

          If Urlacher, Peanut or Forte went to the puke and vomit, I would feel the same way. Certain players signing with rivals I consider betrayal.

          Death to Peppers!

          • Johnathan Wood

            those guys are all Bears. Drafted by them, whole career with them.

            Pep did 4 years in Chicago. Was in Carolina 2x as long.

            And no matter what, if nobody else is giving them the $$ then I can’t feel bad.

            Now if they take LESS money to go to GB just to stick it to CHI, I’d be pissed. But that’s a different story.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I repeat. Not in today’s NFL. Move on.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    Also, before this thread disappears, doesn’t Martin look just like a younger King Kull from Conan the Barbarian, or am I being racist?

    http://cdn-static.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeek/files/styles/insert_main_wide_image/public/07b-conan.jpg

  • Trac

    Peppers was a hail mary attempt to put us over the top when the Bears first signed him and I never really drank the koolaid on him but there’s no doubt that he was a very effective weapon for us for 2-3 years. I always felt his best years had passed him by from the day he arrived. I just hate the fact that he may hurt us this year but it’s not like I’m quaking in my boots. If GB uses him correctly then he could really help GB during the course of the season and that’s what bothers me more than anything.

    No use crying over a guy who is just a shadow of his former self. Se la vie.

    • Big Mike

      He piled up his stats last year against two of the worst offensive lines in the league. GB/Detroit. The good news is we have a line that is becoming one of the better ones in the league.

      • BerwynBomber

        IRRC, his best game (and it was a monster) was against Baltimore. He’s slipped a bit, and he is obviously old, but the dude was incredibly durable.

  • tobijohn

    Someone here (I think it’s Cor) claims to know intelligent Packer fans. I wonder what the consensus opinion among them is with this Peppers signing? I’m not about to waste any time on Packer sites trying to find out for myself…

    • Johnathan Wood

      That would be me; maybe somebody else too. There’s an NFCN site I frequent that’s mostly Bears and Pack fans.

      They are a bit confused by the move seeing as Peppers is old and has never played in a 3-4 before. They hope he’ll help though. They are hopeful GB’s DL coach (who was Pep’s DC from 2003-2008) will help coax the best out of him.

      A lot of them have said they would have rather seen Arthur Jones come in as a proven 3-4 DE. Less pass rush, but much younger and better run defender.

      • Big Mike

        The Pack might deploy what’s known as an Elephant End. The EE lines up outside shade on the TE. Peppers has played inside, but not for long stretches. It will be interesting to see. I bear Peppers no ill will, but I can’t wait for Slauson and Bushrod to dominate.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 StephTuitt

        A lot of hope … and a fervent prayer.

    • BerwynBomber

      I’d assume it is mixed. A few are likening it to the Woodson deal. But a few others are rightfully pointing out that Woodson was 29/30 at the time, whereas Pep is 34. Anyway, my own view is mixed. On one hand, seems a lot of money. On the other, only the first year is guaranteed and they can cut him next year and it won’t count a dime against the cap. Just weird to see the Cheese make such a move. Not only because they’re our rivals but it’s rare for them to sign big name FAs. Woodson was pretty much their recent history exception. They hit a grand slam there but I doubt history will completely repeat itself.

  • Viva

    The Pack got better today.

    • MB30SD

      Fuck the packers viva.

      • Viva

        You can say that again.

  • Trac

    If the Cheese gets this Julius Peppers, then I’m not too worried.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4691100/packers-will-get-a-motivated-peppers

  • Trac

    I’ve been looking at possible draft picks, Tuitt may have the most upside of players that will be available when we pick but he has Dusty Dvoracek written all over him. Nay Irish, nay. The only way I take a chance on this cat is if Phil trades down.

    Aaron Donald is probably the safest choice.

    Here’s the bad skinny on Ha ha Nix:
    “He can play well up at the line of scrimmage and against the run but has
    a tendency to take bad angles at times when tackling and will need to
    improve on his strength when facing bigger and stronger receivers in the
    NFL.”

    C.J. Mosely would be my choice and may be our first player taken in the draft if Emery decides it’s time to address the position. Next year Briggs will be gone.

    “Whoever gets C.J. Mosley in the draft is going to be pretty damn
    lucky,” Butkus tells USA TODAY Sports. “C.J. is a serious kid who is not
    flamboyant. His approach was my approach: ‘Go about your business. Let
    your actions speak for you.’

    “Any 4-3 team that wants that talented middle linebacker is going to be really happy with him.”

    Butkus’ former franchise picks 14th and has a void created by Brian Urlacher’s retirement a year ago.

    “If you want to find C.J. just look for the ball,” Alabama defensive
    coordinator Kirby Smart says. “He is there all the time, a lot like
    (Carolina Panthers linebacker) Luke Kuechly, a natural, instinctive
    player with a knack for making spectacular plays.”

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