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Quick Thoughts on the Decision to Draft Kyle Fuller

| May 9th, 2014

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Note: As far as I can tell, three people accurately predicted Kyle Fuller as the Bears first round draft pick: Austin Augsburger, Brian, Scott Vandermoon. Each of those three individuals should drop me an email today to confirm ownership of that account (jeff@dabearsblog.com) and then be sure to get their position selections in for tonight. You can’t win this contest if you don’t make it to tomorrow!

CONTEST PICKS SHOULD BE MADE ON THIS POST. THE NEXT UPDATE TO THE SITE WILL BE AFTER THE BEARS SECOND ROUND SELECTION.

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I received many emails and Tweets last night asking me the same question: why would Phil Emery pass on the position of desperation (safety) and select a cornerback? Why would the Bears not grab the ballyhooed Clinton-Dix or Pryor when they already have their two starting corners for 2014 on the roster?

Here are my answers to that and some other things:

  1. You don’t reach for a position of desperate need due to the desperation. The Bears needed a corner and the selection of Kyle Fuller may very well keep them from being desperate at the position a year from now should Charles Tillman decide to hang em up.
  2. Who is the Bears third cover guy? Never mind the word corner. Use the phrase cover guy. Frey? Hayden? Any of the safeties on the roster? Two cover guys is not enough to handle the healthy Packers, Saints, Eagles…etc. If Fuller gives the Bears a solid third-option in coverage they’ll have had a brilliant first round.
  3. All of this talk about converting Fuller to safety should be shelved. Let the kid learn to play corner from the best in the history of the franchise. Let him contribute in all the coverage packages. Don’t draft a guy at position X to play position Y. He’s a professional football player, a first round selection, because of his lifelong dedication to being great at position X. Keep him there.
  4. Have to believe Emery’s mentioning of the Giants pick guaranteeing him two good players means he expected Aaron Donald off the board at twelve. I firmly believe the Bears were thinking Donald or Fuller as the round progressed and may have been surprised they didn’t get to make the decision when the Rams swooped on Donald.

On to rounds two and three tonight!

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  • MB30SD

    Those eyes

    • Shady

      That quote was really meant for the Around the League Tweets. You know, the one with Twitter Bird and Goodell? Ah, fug it.

      • MB30SD

        Yes i know… and it’s been morphed into my special way of fucking with you when i get the first

  • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

    Seriously …. what the fuck are you paying him?

  • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

    On reflection what we got was a solid-potentially awesome player. Donald was plucked out of our grasp at the last hurdle …. the other DTs weren’t rated that high ….one of Tuitt, Jernigan and Nix could be there at 51. All will stop the run, and that is what we could not do for all the tea in china last season. Or we go BPA and draft Ellis in the third, he sounds good. 6’2 – 334lbs.

    From CBS sports:

    STRENGTHS WEAKNESSES

    STRENGTHS: Large, wide body and carries his weight well. Long arms for his frame and extends well, using his active hands to work off blocks. Has really improved in this area, bullying with heavy hands. Explosive off the ball and a quick thinker, reacting well to what the blockers want to do. Attacks with pure momentum, not afraid to use a spin move, making it tough for blockers to latch on. Load to handle. Good pocket vision and awareness to track and crash down on the ball or chase the ballcarrier outside. Anchors well at the point of attack and has a stout build. Nice job getting his paw up to swat the ball out of the air. Nonstop motor and ferocious demeanor. Try-hard type who gets the most out of his ability. Versatile experience, lining up at various inside positions in college.

    WEAKNESSES:
    Needs to stay balanced and controlled and play with better gap integrity. Needs to improve his pad level and show better lower body bend to keep his belt low and play with more consistent leverage. A lot of bull rushes and needs to show more variance in his rushes and broaden his repertoire of arm moves. Room to improve his ability vs. double-teams and do a better job as a two-gapping player. Has some sloppy weight on his frame and his conditioning needs to be monitored. Very pedestrian production in college and was a party of a heavy defensive line rotation to keep him fresh.–Dane Brugler

    PLAYER OVERVIEW

    An under-the-radar high school recruit, Ellis redshirted in 2009 and barely saw the field in 2010 before becoming a sophomore starter in 2011. He took a step back in 2012, but had his best year as a senior with 48 tackles, including 5.5 for loss, earning All-CUSA Honorable Mention honors. Ellis is a wide-bodied rusher and uses his ball quickness and snap anticipation to surge past blockers before they can set up, making him a tough guy to square up and slow down. He looks like a zero-technique who should be a man-eating run stuffer, but is more of an upfield penetrator who is a handful to control as a pass rusher. Ellis is scheme-versatile to play a two-gapping NT role or as a 3-technique who wins with initial burst.

  • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

    How about drafting two of the following … Nix / Tuitt AND Ellis? BOOM! Defensive line issues solved for the foreseeable. Secondary? Whatever. We already have our new nickel. He would have a great season for a rookie with those boys in the middle of the line. Perhaps pro-bowl.

    • DaBearsBlog

      I know Bears are going to change the defense up but they’re not going to a 3-4 with a need for a Nix-like nose.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        The Patriots, Giants and Saints play 4-2-5 without a 3T, but with Nix-like nose types. You stop the run with the front 4 and send blitzes from different places in order to balance the lack of penetration down the middle. It’s how the Giants D woke up last year after a brutal start… they made Tuck and Pierre Paul play run all the way. It’s how Ryan made a great unit with low quality players and a lot of injuries. PS: If the Bears plug in a NT type next to Ratliff, Houston and Allen they could play nickel behind it and mix stuff up. It covers the lack of great S players as well.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    We needed a corner, got a corner. I’m just pissed that the Packers snagged Ha Ha, but whaddya going to do?

    • MB30SD

      RABBIT!!!!!

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      Kick the shit out of them twice, that’s what we’re gonna do. I’d like to see Dix cover AJ, BM, UNI and Forte all at the same time.

    • Bender McLugh

      makes me wonder how good Ha Ha & Pryor actually are considering the Ravens & Bears, both teams desperate for a S, passed on both.

      • DaBearsBlog

        What a lot of the talk on Pryor was is he plays an antiquated game. Hard hitting, over the middle. Perfect for Jets because he doesn’t cover and they don’t value that.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

          Apparently the knock on Fuller also …. hitting hard as opposed to wrapping up.

          • Bender McLugh

            Fuller’s tape from previous thread seemed to me like he solidly tackles and has good instinct to the ball. Time will tell

          • Big Mike

            Fuller is a solid tackler, with the appropriate amount of bad ass in my book. Wish he could put on 10lbs. Looks very whippy…Needs some man strength.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            If the DL is up to scratch this year, with two pro bowl CBs and Fuller at Nickel … we can just play the dummies back deep where they should be and just have a ‘front 9’.

          • MB30SD

            I would usually be ok with that actually, IF conte was even serviceable. Dude takes turrible angles and can’t tackle. It’s not something you can fix, especially in the nfl

        • MB30SD

          I worried about his James Harrison-ness

          • el_caney

            Being sad because of Dix was “Packed”?

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            I don’t think Fuller would have been there man. I don’t think he was a reach being in the debate for top corner -Emery was commenting in particular for the variety of body shapes he can cover, and you can’t teach the anticipation he has. We can just shrug our shoulders and say Donald was too small anyway and enjoy the big beefy tackle we get tomorrow.

    • Aaron T. Starks

      Doesn’t matter. No team in the league can handle our receiving corps. The only way to shut Bears ‘O’ down is getting to Cutler. If Cutler has time, you’re not covering B-Marsh, AJ AND The Black Unicorn for long. Add Wilson and Forte out of the backfield and any secondary is toast.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

        What do we do if this guy is on the board?

        Cyrus Kouandjio, OT

        Measured 6-foot-7 and 321 pounds at his pro day. Our receiving corps only works as long as Cutty is safe. Gonna be a long season, we got lucky with injuries on the OL last season.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          Injury red flag..

    • Shady

      Well look who the cat dragged in…

  • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

    This week on ‘Screw The Pooch!’ …. the Jacksonville Jaguars ….. screwed the pooch AND shit the bed. Oh man. They could have traded halfway down the next round and still got him. That’s brutal.

    Cleveland’s move was Costner-esque. Get the guy everybody thought you were going to take at 4 but on the 24th pick … whilst nabbing the disputed top corner in the draft. It cost you a 3rd round pick. Nice.

    • Big Mike

      I liked the move by Cleveland. Trying to ignore all of the douchebaggery about Manziel. Had started to move towards positive feelings about him.. His Pro-day was off the charts. Watching him be humbled a bit sitting waiting to be drafted, made him a touch more likeable. Than he does the money grub signal with his hands after his name was called. What a tool. Belongs in South Jersey.

      • Bender McLugh

        look on Manziel’s face after the 10th or so pick reminded me of Aaron Rogers (A-A-RON) on his draft day.

        • Big Mike

          Great First Round for the Browns. Fans will be all jacked up.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

        Never liked the cut of his jib and I hope he tries to rush for 1500 yards against professionals. Good luck with that.

      • BearFanInDE

        Easy there with the South Jersey stuff 😉

  • Aaron T. Starks

    Bears are guaranteed to get a starting DT tonight. Nix, Jernigan, Tuitt, Hageman, Ealy. All good value picks and should be hungry. Would be a great 2 rounds for The Beloved.

    • Shady

      Bears pick 18th this round. I’d be pleasantly surprised if one of those guys were still on the board.

      • Aaron T. Starks

        There will be a run on QBs before us. We’ll get one of these guys. But do we go for the run-stuffer like Nix or more athletic guy like Hageman or Ealy?

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

        Woodsy – knuckle down and find out who might. want a tackle on the teams before us that badly

        • Dallas, Seattle, Oakland, PIT, maybe MIA and NYG. But all those teams have other needs too; you can argue only DAL in front of CHI has DT as their biggest need. It’s just that DL is probably the best value left, so teams need to balance that.

          I would not be surprised at all to see Emery trade up for Hageman. The type of player he LOVES.

          • Big Mike

            From your keyboard to the Papa Bear’s ears in heaven.

          • el_caney

            If they are going to trade, hope is for Tuiit.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            He’d be a monster for us – Allen would have a field day every Sunday playing with him.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Hageman is a guy i think SEA would like too and they pick at 40.

          • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

            Character issue guys?

          • MB30SD

            I would like that pick. we still need a safety. how about brooks?

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            Have you seen that Huff guy MB ? 5’11 195, but they reckon he’s a corner in the NFL as that’s what he was originally.

            Spent first three seasons at cornerback before moving to safety. 2013: Second on team with 127 tackles. 2012: Fifth on team with 57 tackles. Played in 12 games. 2011: Had both the team’s defensive scores (fumble return touchdowns). 2010: Appeared in 12 games; played nickel back and special teams.
            ANALYSIS

            STRENGTHS
            Lean, athletic build. Fluid and sudden with terrific balance. Outstanding speed — carries receivers vertically and flies around the field. Sudden plant and drive. Can elevate to contend in the air and make athletic interceptions. Does not hesitate to support the run. Scheme versatile. Sharp mentally. Three-year starter. Rose to the occasion against better competition and produced big against Nebraska.

            WEAKNESSES
            Has very small hands. Gets lax with his technique. Inconsistent, subpar tackler as a safety. Average ball production. Performance is up and down.BOTTOM LINE Fast, rangy, tough, loquacious defensive back who was miscast as a safety in his senior season, but projects best as a cornerback in the pros where his explosiveness and physicality will appeal to a wide range of teams. Should contribute readily on special teams and has eventual starter potential. Played his best football early in the season and tapered off late in the year.

          • MB30SD

            yeah, he’s data’s pick… which means he won’t be there for us.

            brooks ran a 4.4 4 and has 38″ leaps. Dude’s about the same size as huff.

            I think as long as we get oneathems, we MIGHT be ok. I just do NOT want conte to see the field ever again… in a bears uni at least.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            He’s the tackle I’d like least. The attitude concerns that have been mentioned. The 6’5 bit doesn’t bother me, anything mental or to do with work ethic and professionalism, that’s worrisome, especially in your second round pick.

    • Big Mike

      Not a guarantee at all. Hopeful. The draft can break in strange ways. A run on DTs could happen. Lot of WRs, RBs, QBs and CBs on the board. Hopefully in leans towards offense and one of our DTs is there.

      • Aaron T. Starks

        Of course nothing is guaranteed, but then you proved my point. Lots of quality offensive players, mainly QBs on the board. We pick 19th. I highly doubt all 4 of the top DTs will be gone by then.

        Not guaranteed, but highly unlikely. Too many teams need QBs, and WRs. Hell, I’d actually be stoked if the Bears got a stud RB…just not in the second.

        • Big Mike

          You said guaranteed. So I did some counting.. picking 18th, not enough DTs and “obvious” choices by teams ahead of us… “have absolutely no need for a DT” or “have burning holes in other places”.

          I like the enthusiasm..

          • Aaron T. Starks

            Okay, dude. Not in it for debate or pissing contests. You “win”. I just want to get a good DT in the 2nd round.

          • Big Mike

            We don’t win until the Bears get a DT 🙂 I was hoping you were right. Want a DT. Odds look good. Maybe Emery even trades up like he did for Alshon last year.

          • Aaron T. Starks

            Word. He won’t trade up unless it looks like he won’t get the guy he wants. He likes guys that are athletic with great upside. So I’m thinking he’s targeting Hageman or Ealy.

            I’d LOVE a run-stuffer like Nix though.

          • Big Mike

            He wouldn’t walk from Nix, but that’s doesn’t seem to be his style if he’s got a choice. Wasn’t Ealy a first round talent, that dropped because of injury concern?

          • Aaron T. Starks

            I have no idea why he dropped. He plays DE and would have to bulk up to move inside.

            As I said, I have dreams of Nix taking up two blockers and letting our DEs and LBs run free to make plays.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            Athletic with great upside spells Tuitt. He’s never truly been in healthy shape – no one has seen the best of him or anything close. He’s 20!! He’s Hulk-like in strength. He’s fast. IMO he’ll just collapse lines in front of him wherever he goes and once he’s through he has incredible chasing speed. I’m praying.

          • MB30SD

            that’s a problem man.

            You’re a FB player looking to be a pro and you’ve never been in shape? Really?!

            That’s like wanting to be a maths teacher and being turrible at the maths.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            6 spots is enough, just one behind Pittsburgh. Steal Tuitt. BOOM! Lose a 4th? Fuggit.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

          We’ll likely have all the best backs on the board when we pick! I would only pick Tuitt or Nix over Hyde, but then again we need to fix that line and just suck up the blueballs on the backs that we’re going to pass on tomorrow.

    • don’t forget Sutton.

      • Aaron T. Starks

        Another good one. I’d be happy with any of them.

  • Shady

    Austin Augsburger? Scott Vandermoon? Sound more like duplicate profiles or aliases Cheesy or Barb would come up with.

    • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

      Mac Mandavian. Rufus McNish. Darby Fellows.

      Yeah, they all smack of fake names.

      Well, Vandermoon is a real guy.
      https://campusrec.depaul.edu/about/Pages/ScottVandermoon.aspx

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Barb is a fucker that lives 100.000 miles away from the closest Bear game this year. You think a ticket is the major factor here ? Loved the joke, though. PS: Stop hating on Augsburger and Vandermoon. Also..if you see foul play you thought about it…come clean.

      • Shady

        He who smelt it, dealt it?

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          It’s possible you are playing the long game… and it’s you that’s Vandermoon. Bluffing like a shady player, aren’t you ?

  • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

    Some serious snark on Mully’s show this morning.

    Caller: “I’d like to congratulate Phil for out-thinking all the other GMs today. Because what you want out of a first rounder and 14th overall is a guy who will play 10 to 20% of your snaps and perhaps contribute to special teams. Way to go Phil!”

    I have to say, I laughed at that.

    It’s simple, unless the kid comes in and shits the bed, he will beat Frey out at Nickel and Hayden will back up Tillman. We could use Louis Nix this round, and then we’ll see if Phil can whip up any 3rd round magic, he’s been awful using the 3rd round so far with a punk-ass fullback and a OLB who nobody likes.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      His only 3rd rounder was a white safety who shall not be named for MB’s sanity sake.

      • MB30SD

        thank you sir

    • Big Mike

      A stat I saw this morning. Bears were in the Nickel 53% of the time last year. That plus specials, depth at CB and mentoring by two pro-bowlers adds up to a quality pick that makes the Bears significantly better.

    • 10% of the snaps? That’ll be the day

      • And the chances of Peanut staying healthy are not that high either, sadly.
        Nickle played 46% last season – that was the #. And if either Jennings or Peanut miss some time, Fuller will see a lot of playing time.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

          Maybe we should draft another corner. I’m not joking. If Peanut goes down (read ‘when’) that’s Kyle and TJ up. Frey or whoever is your nickel, who’s next up at CB? Is Zack a top baller? If we were gifted some highly rated CB I wouldn’t object to taking him. They’re rare. But DT in the second is a must … unless they take Ellis in the third, but that’s risky waiting to hit on one guy in the third. Somebody drafts him ahead of you and you’re standing there in the spotlight with your cock in your hand.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      If the Bears play nickel 20 % of the time we are fucked and not even Clowney or all the S class would have make a difference.

  • A few thoughts on Fuller now that I’ve had time to digest:

    1) He improves the run D. You’ll remember they only gave up 200+ rushing yards 1x in 8 games with Tillman last year, did it 3-4x in 8 games without him. And that 1 was WAS, where almost 100 of the yards were from a QB. Well, with Tillman + Fuller at CB, that’s a damn good run D duo right there.

    2) IMO this pick was made with GB in mind. Fuller can cover to help defend against Rodgers and also help against Lacy in the run game. Need a guy like that in the nickel against that offense.

    • Big Mike

      And Detroit.. Reggie Bush, Megatron and now Ebron. Fuller’s already proven he can cover Ebron.

      Kyle Fuller on covering Ebron https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W0o91uGthE

      Mayock on Kyle Fuller #1 Corner in the draft https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIFr8wdcVPQ

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      Fuller negates Randall Cobb. That’s what he does for us. That’ll do. Peanut takes the other guy. Your move Aaron … oh shit, wait, here comes Tuitt and Allen … DAMN! That looked painful.

      • I dunno about negating Cobb, but he’ll help cover. His coverage/run D combo will help CHI D out tremendously.

        • Aaron T. Starks

          Watching Conte and Wright take bad angles on tackles ALL THE TIME grew so tiresome. Peanut’s a great tackler but is injury prone. Frey needs to learn to true his coverage and stop give team’s drive-saving PI calls. Fuller is sorely needed in the secondary. And I don’t care what his designation is, this year, he’ll basically be playing safety. People can call him a “nickel corner” if it makes them feel better.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      FUCK GB. The Bears play Atlanta, New Orleans, New England, Miami, Buffalo, San Francisco, Detroit x 2, Minnesota x 2. All these teams play 3 WR as base Offenses. That’s a minimum of 12 games against 11 personnel. PS: If the Bears draft for Lacy we better close shop and go screw ourself.

      • I’m not saying that was the sole factor, but it could have contributed. DET has a good run/pass combo too. Helps improve the pass coverage in nickel looks without hurting the run D, basically. That’s incredibly valuable in today’s NFL.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Sure. But if you make it as a consequence of something other teams have I’d chose the ‘Seattle D effect’ rather than ‘the Packers have Lacy’. Who ?

        • Aaron T. Starks

          Bears will be scoring a lot of points. The goal this year is to not play “We score, you score” like last year. Getting just 2 or 3 more stops a game can add 3 or 4 wins for this team. That’s not just playoffs cut possibly the division.

  • Trac

    Repost: As much as it pains me to say it, Barb brings a comprehensive knowledge of scheme to da blog that has now gotten my attention. If I were drafting posters today, he’d be my first pick. Having said that, he’s still an obnoxious prick at times but in a good way. Well done sir. Jerk!

    • MB30SD

      I agree with all of that 100%. I love how he completely divorced of emotion he is in his assessments. He’s the anti-jabroni.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

        Lore to Woodsy’s Data !

        Lore the Barbarian.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I’m crying right now…just so you know.

    • johnnywad

      Well said.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Love your kosher hamburger filled with humility. PS: I truly know very little about american football scheme.

      • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

        Trac Kosher?

        tee hee.

  • Big Mike

    From Mel Kiper..
    So many good players around for Rd 2. I count 18 players available who I thought could have gone in Round 1.

    • Trac

      What does else can he say? Obviously he whiffed, glad I don’t pay to read his smack.

      • Big Mike

        That was from a tweet. I wouldn’t pay for his dribble. His analysis was cutting edge at one point. Now he’s simply the guy that’s been doing it the longest and has the seat at the desk with ESPN.

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      …. which is why we should have traded down. We get an extra player in the second round FOR FREE. We would have three players from the first two talent-packed rounds instead of three. Is Kyle Fuller more valuable than that?

  • FQD1911

    love the Kyle Fuller pick…would have loved Aaron Donald more, but can’t go wrong with a tackling corner.
    #BearDown

  • Sactowns#1

    Hmmm…Hageman or Nix. I just like Nix’s size for stuffing the run in the middle. At 6’6 311lbs Hageman seems a bit long to be playing inside. I would def prefer the prototypical DT body of Nix at 6’2 331. But Phil does love his “athletic” players so we shall see.

  • Artoo

    All the players that you really want, especially DT, probably won’t make it to the Bears.

    The teams that passed on them last night will be fighting to get them today.

    • Shady

      Two words for you R2: Michael. Sam.

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        lol,
        fuck. that.

      • We passed on Teo. Let’s keep that trend going (not because they’re gay, but because they suck. And they’re not all that great at football either. ZING!)

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

        Goes undrafted.

        • johnnywad

          Aside from the media circus thats sure to follow, he shit the bed at the combine. Not a good mix for poor Michael

    • Aaron T. Starks

      Emery will trade up in round 2. He did it with Alshon. If he has a target, he’ll give up his 2nd and a 4th to move up and get him.

  • Sactowns#1

    Is there anyway we could get Nix AND Tuitt? What kind fo trade would we need to make to get an additional 2nd round pick? (I’m looking at you Niners)

    • Artoo

      Depends on what other teams are offering, I wouldn’t be surprised if it would take a first from next year to get that high.

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        i’m not sure it would ever cost a first rounder to move up in the 2nd round

        • Artoo

          To get both players, I’m quite sure it would cost a lot.
          Maybe not a first but..

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            oh, both, yeah, that would cost

    • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

      We could get Tuitt and Ellis. How about that? A monster at 3T and 330-340 Ellis in at nose. Two run-stuffers that can disrupt the pass game also. With Fuller, Peanut and TJ our safeties become almost irrelevant at that point. Deep fielders.

      That is one fuck-off defensive line. Allen – Ellis – Tuitt – Houston, rotating in Ratliff and Young/Izzy. You completely block up the center of the line and they have to deal with Allen around the side. And the depth we’d have! I’d love it. Pick up some young FS in the fourth. Happy days.

      • MB30SD

        no they don’t. If we had even a serviceable guy for free. Conte isn’t.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Ealy, Sutton and Nix came in for visits so it’s probably one of those 3.

    • FQD1911

      Would rather have Nix, but can’t go wrong with any of those three.

      • MB30SD

        Sutton is my guy

        • Bear Down in Tampa
          • MB30SD

            not bad.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            He might fall to the 3rd round though, I’d be willing to gamble he does and take Ealy or Tuitt.

          • MB30SD

            agree

        • FQD1911

          why him?

          • MB30SD

            big fat motherfucker who’s reasonably athletic.

            Nix over tuitt for you?

          • FQD1911

            yea man…Florida State’s DL was monstrous this year. we need that in a BAD way (sorry, but Henry Melton was it for one year…we need more than one year of destruction).

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

          Needs to lose weight though- and why did he gain weight ? He’s a project with a question mark over him.

          • MB30SD

            all these guys are in one way or another. I’ll take a guy who needs a little jenny craig over a dude with horse tendons in both knees any day.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            He put on the weight to try and be more stout against the run but it robbed him of his explosiveness against the pass. Data has said this numerous times and I concur, His 2012 tape rivals that of 2013 Aaron Donald. If the weight is truly gone for good and he’s ready to be coached up then he can be just as good as AD.

          • MB30SD

            BOOM!

            BC… my man!

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            Amen. Draft him.

      • Aaron T. Starks

        Yes, I want that dedicated run-stuffer. A guy that’s there for the sole purpose of taking up two blockers and forcing that RB right into the arms of a gap-filling LB.

  • Shady

    Hey Irish, how’d the interview go?

  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

    I’ll be at a daddy daughter dance tonight so i’ll be missing the draft and the Hawks game. So with that being said let me preemptively express some feelings so you can cut and paste them to each other’s comments as you see fit.
    “dude, blow me, why are you such a nerdball?”
    “I fucking told you we’d be stuck with a reach at DT once that run on Safeties blew the strategy out of the water”
    “Rodgers Dead”
    “Why the fuck would we pick another slow, undersized white guy with “high character”
    “Did we really fucking need to address running back with the 3rd pick Phil?”
    “I see what you are saying but you’re fucking wrong and don’t take this the wrong way but you have no fucking clue what you are talking about”
    “You’re fucking out!”
    “We gave what to move up in the 2nd round to select Borland?”
    That should be sufficient.

    • Shady

      Have fun!

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        haha, it will be a great memory. I’m a softie when it comes down to it.

        • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

          she’s 4 so she just wants to wear a dress, drink pop and dance to “Frozen” soundtrack all night

          • “So, Johnny, how’s everything?” asks some relative Johnny can barely stand.
            “What? Oh. Yeah OK.” Johnny replies retrospectively.
            Meanwhile, the only thing going through Johnny’s head as everyone is eating chips and salsa and conversing about the weather, “Fucking Phil. He better not take a slow white linebacker from Rutgers”

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            I asked my wife to text me the 2nd round pick and hawks scores while I was at the dance. She didn’t answer me verbally but do you think an eye roll and possibly a flipping of the bird as I turned my back was a “no”?

          • I’m no Dr. Phil, but that’s quite probable.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            damn

          • MB30SD

            sounds standard.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            Ooh, Bullough, musn’t forget him ….

          • MB30SD

            best night ever. seriously.

          • Big Mike
    • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

      It’s as if you gave us the Jericho

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        lol,
        For your consideration………..the Jericho

        • MB30SD

          despite the nickname, it’s obvious you love GP.

          It’s cute.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            More than anyone on the blog I think he makes me laugh the most.
            He also frustrates me from time to time with an intensity that only an old married Sicilian couple could understand.

          • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

            I’m like an Irish Billy Crystal. When he was still funny.

    • Big Mike

      Went to a few of those. Great Memories. Get the photo they will undoubtedly offer.. see below
      https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201976896008072&set=pb.1355431723.-2207520000.1399654282.&type=3&theater

    • SC Dave

      Wait… what if we pick a QB?

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        lol, i’ll drive to Emery’s house and it’s over.

      • Scene: Johhny recording the kids on his cell. Suddenly, he gives an audible “umph” and keels over.
        Everyone rushes, “You alright, J-dog?”
        “It feels like someone punched my liver. There’s a disturbance in the force. Someone give me a lap top, post haste!”

  • Good morning, ladies.
    I thought about it, and I think Fuller is our poor man’s version of Vaccaro. A jack of all trades baller who can cover athletic TEs, small WRs, Big WRs – he can tackle and blitz, and IMO, he can probably play a little FS too.

    I just worry about his health. He seems a little frail to me. He needs to put on son Peanut muscle if he’s going to stick his nose in there. Then again, didn’t Vaccaro get inj last year?

    Forget S in the second boys. It’s like feasting on a buffet at a strip joint monday morning. ugh.
    Naturally, I say Dline, but there’ll be a run on them, a cannon ball run. So we take the BPA on D, and if other teams totally ravage the D side, and Marquise Lee falls to us, well, fuck them. We should take him for stealing our shine.

    • Big Mike

      Steal our shine will ya..

  • reposting Big Mike’s ‘board’ from last thread.

    Top Talent Available per CBS Sports

    DEFENSIVE TACKLE
    1. Louis Nix, Notre Dame (6-2, 331)
    2. Timmy Jernigan, Florida State (6-2, 299)
    3. Stephon Tuitt, Notre Dame (6-6, 304)
    4. Ra’Shede Hageman, Minnesota (6-6, 310)
    5. Da’Quan Jones, Penn State (6-4, 322)

    FREE SAFETY
    1. Terrence Brooks, Florida State (5-11, 198)
    2. Marqueston Huff, Wyoming (5-11, 196)
    3. Dion Bailey, USC (6-0, 201)
    4. Ed Reynolds, Stanford (6-1, 207)
    5. Kenny Ladler, Vanderbilt (6-0, 207)

    STRONG SAFETY
    1. Brock Vereen, Minnesota (6-0, 199)
    2. Dezmen Southward, Wisconsin (6-0, 211)
    3. Craig Loston, LSU (6-1, 217)
    4. Vinnie Sunseri, Alabama (5-11, 210)
    5. Ahmad Dixon, Baylor (6-0, 212)

    • Shady

      How about linebacker? We could use a few more of those.

      • MB30SD

        DT and FS. focus.

        • Shady

          There are also a few running backs I like out there… SQUIRREL!

          • MB30SD

            smfh man.

      • http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2014/ILB

        ILB: Skov, Preston Brown, Brock Coyle, Lamin Barrow, Max Bullough.
        OLB (which we don’t really need, but might be able to convert):
        Carl Bradford, Van Noy, Attaouchu, Telvin Smith,Chris Smith, Christian Jones.

        Christian Jones is a guy I’m keeping my eye on. Very athletic. The Emery type.

        • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

          I love Bullough in the 4th or 5th.

  • To get Hageman, we would have to jump the Seahawks at 40. Considering that we’re currently at 51, the cost would be too high. We can scratch him off the list.

  • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

    Ron Jeremy…. errrr…. I mean Shahid Khan – that’s the guy who made a mockery of the league last night. Drafting a QB from UCF just so he can sell some tickets to his games. Ultimate homer move.

    Save that shit for the English Football League team you own. Shit.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Saw on twitter that Chad Henne is the 2014 starter, all bets off after that.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      he fuck up Fulham, man. Those dudes where middle of the table for the last 10 years. After one year under Khan, ONE, they relegated into the second division. If you don’t know how that works understand this… it’s a minimum of $50 mil loss for the club. Cash. Just to start with. Leaving the ‘pride angle’ aside.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

        My team, Leeds, were forced to sell all of their players and got relegated two seasons in a row. You can’t recover from such losses.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Hey..don’t worry. Cellino is a mafioso who knows how to get shit done. He is a snake with the attitude of a crying baby. Things get done one way or another. Hahah.

  • No doubt there will be trades, but I think more teams stay pat in the
    early 2nd. Teams realize that many 1st rounders have fallen to the 2nd,
    and probably won’t be willing to gamble on trading down. So, here are some teams that might take positions we don’t need.
    33. Texans. Need a QB, bad.
    35. Browns. Need a HB, bad.
    36. Raiders. see Texans.
    37.Falcons. Need a HB and TE. Could go pass rush though.
    42. Titans. Got to replace CJ1K?

    There’s also a bunch of other teams that are desperate for an OT/OG, WR and CB.

    • just remembered Browns signed Ben Tate this offseason, so RB not such a huge need for them. But WR is. Marquise Lee?

      Anyway, there are a bunch of guys who COULD go before CHI picks at 51:

      IMO probably 2-3 QBs (Carr, Garrapolo, Mettenberger)
      2-4 OL (Su’a-Filo, Bitonio, the OT from Bama, a couple other top OGs)
      a number of WRs and RBs (somewhere between 4 and 8, maybe?
      a bunch of CBs too (anywhere from 2 to 5, IMO)

      There will be DTs gone, but I’m guessing at least 1 of the I’d be happy with falls, more likely 2-3. Hageman, Tuitt, Sutton, Ealy, Jernigan, Nix.

      • I don’t Tate will last the season, but the Browns might see it otherwise. I’m just thinking.
        Manziel, Gordon, Cameron, Joe Thomas…the cherry on that sunday would be Jeremy Hill (though Lee would be a perfect complement).

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Keith McGill is a guy I would like to see join the beloved in the 3rd round.

    • MB30SD

      4.51 and 39″ vert at 6’3″ 215? Yes please.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Couple of places see him as a 2nd rounder tho, so we’ll have to see how it plays out. He played safety in JuCo but was a CB at Utah so he offers scheme versatility (the magic “v” word).

      • Oh, and dudes, I’m not going to be able to make it to SD this weekend, so you and R2 can have mimosas and watch Magic Mike without me.
        I’ll def try to make it down there though when I ams free.

        • MB30SD

          yeah for sure… can you give me a couple pointers on the movie, you said you really liked it? No spoilers, kay?!

          • gotta admit. I DID watch. Last week actually. I kept hearing about it from all these girls, and last week I hung out with one and she brought it up, and I’m like “throw it on. I want to see what the big hoopla is about” She’s like “OK!” I figured if it gets girls hot, why not? Gives me a better chance to ride that high.
            Footnote. I should have been a male stripper.

          • MB30SD

            yeah. nice story.

            So you actually watched it alone with a bottle of jernigans and some old socks, right?…. right?

            riiiiiight.

          • Bushmills. Get it right, sheesh.

          • MB30SD

            suuuuuuuure.

        • Sactowns#1

          Perhaps you girls can come up here for the Niners v Bears game. It’s my birthday weekend and I’ve rented out my favorite dive bar for the game. Free BBQ and pints of booze for $3.

          • oh. MB. Roadtrip! I’ll keep that in mind, Sac. Just protect us from the Northenos.

          • MB30SD

            I like that idea. You raffling flack jackets at the party?

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            That sounds great. Sounds like a ball of fun! We’re gonna bitch-slap The Kap too !

      • A converted CB/S with injury concerns? Hardin 2.0

        http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1825051/keith-mcgill

        • has played S at a high level in the past. Has the size for it, and is more athletically suited to S than CB IMO.

        • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

          Hardin had the most ridiculous injury profile on his draft day. Broke his collarbone – twice – had concussion issues. He was a hot mess before ever suiting up.

          • Hardin missed pretty much his entire last 2 years of college and never became a full-time starter. How that translates to 3rd round is still far beyond me.

          • MB30SD

            I’ve been trying to tell dave and others this who keep asking for project CBs to be safeties for 2 years now data.

            It doesn’t work… for some puzzling reason.

          • it’s different to me though if it’s not a project CB.

            Huff played S, not CB, as a senior, and had his best college year there. McGill was an All-American JuCo S, not CB, who didn’t switch to CB until Utah.

            If it’s a guy who’s never played S before, don’t put him at S.

          • MB30SD

            exactly. this is the difference between a lovie project and just finding a diamond in the rough who MIGHT turn out to be solid.

            Kam fucking Chancellor was taken in the 5th! How the hell does that happen (btw, fun fact, he was also a hokie)

          • same with Sherman, who went under the radar because of a late position switch.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

        What if this guy is there at 51 ?

        Carlos Hyde (5-foot-11 7/8, 230 pounds) ran for 1,521 yards and 15 touchdowns last season, averaging 7.3 yards per carry.

        RB roster solidification .. .as they would say in parts of Romania … in rooms where Barbarian is present.

        Grab Ellis in three. Surprise FS in four.

        Just a possibility. We can’t ignore offense, and must always value talent.

        • MB30SD

          yes, if we had a starting safety on the roster, sure.

          We don’t. We need one.

          • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

            He’s not going safety in round two, I don’t feel that juju in two. It’s almost written on tablets. Rd 2 = DT. Last chance.

          • agree.

          • MB30SD

            yes, I’m ok with that. if we get a sutton or tuitt, I’ll be fine.

  • If I had to throw my hat in the ring for a S, it might be Dion Bailey, USC. Nice size. Ok speed. Fluid. Not a banger, but can tackle. Decent all around. Compares to Eric Weddle? yes please.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737140/dion-bailey

    • MB30SD

      I just want a guy who can play maings. Someone who can come in and obviously beat out conte for the starting FS spot. Really shouldn’t be that hard… right?

      • Sadly, Conte might be better then the remaining S options. I still can’t believe 9ers drafted Ward that high, but supposedly, they’re going to make him a nickle/cb, sorta like Mathius.

        • MB30SD

          smmfh

        • Big Mike

          or Kyle Fuller. See how I did that.

          • MB30SD

            no more projects mike. Fuller is a corner.

  • this is hard-core draftnik shit.

    “6. I live right outside of Philadelphia (Feasterville), and I know a lot
    of Eagle fans who are bummed out about the Marcus Smith pick. Well,
    here’s something to cheer them up: The Seahawks were very high on Smith,
    who would have been under consideration at No. 32 if the Vikings hadn’t
    traded up. Seattle has drafted extremely well under its current regime,
    picking good football players who happen to be very athletic. Smith is a
    freak of nature with immense upside, and he’s perfect for
    Philadelphia’s defensive scheme. Sure, he was a reach, but so was
    Seattle’s selection of Bruce Irvin, and that seems to have panned out.

    Meanwhile, the Seahawks have to be concerned that the Eagles might be
    using their SPARQ rankings. SPARQ is a formula used to determine how
    athletic players are, and it’s a big part of Seattle’s draft process.
    Maybe it’s a coincidence, but if Philadelphia is indeed using SPARQ,
    here are some players it will consider on Day 2 (in no particular
    order):

    Cody Latimer, WR

    Donte Moncrief, WR

    Allen Robinson, WR

    Martavis Bryant, WR

    Ra’Shede Hageman, DE/DT

    Jordan Tripp, ILB

    Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB

    Keith McGill, CB

    Phillip Gaines, CB

    Pierre Desir, CB

    Walt Aikens, CB

    Antone Exum, CB/S

    Brock Vereen, S

    Kenny Ladler, S ”

    Walterfootball. http://walterfootball.com/draft2014day2preview.php

    • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

      Not that I get a 2nd round pick, but I would looking at Ladler.

      Sorry Shady, I let you down with my stupid Bucannon pick. He WAS taken only 5 spots later.

    • I thought SEA was gonna grab Hageman at 32 last night before they traded down. Still think that might be their pick at 40.

  • MB30SD
  • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

    Any news on signing Kevin WIlliams?

    • MB30SD

      yes please?

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      lol, I don’t think my source is very reliable.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Get me Kevin WIlliams and a Mike Glennon for a 3rd rounder trade…please. Thank you Emeryyyy !!!

    • I’m guessing he’s our “no DTs fell to us in the 2nd-3rd” plan.

  • MB30SD

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Anybody who busts Manziel’s balls for drinking last night can flat out go fuck themselves.

    I don’t care about that, this is what I want to personally call him and tell him he’s a fucking moron for: http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/acfa3c317ca5932d55c748e271b3e60076eecfa1/c=0-84-1932-1539&r=x404&c=534×401/local/-/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2014/05/08//1399604407000-USP-NFL-2014-NFL-Draft-025.jpg

    What a fucking idiot.

    • Big Mike

      I did not like that. Going out and drinking no problem

  • There’s a rumor floating around Twitter that the Bears are offering next years’ 1st round pick for a high pick in the 2nd round, presumably to grab Hageman.

    I’m torn on this. On the one hand, I hate these trades. Giving up a 1st for a 2nd is, by definition, bad value.

    On the other hand, if Hageman is a guy they were seriously considering at 14, then you could argue he has better value than what their 1st would be next year if they’re in the playoffs. Plus a 2nd still for a S/RB/TE/WR. Enticing.

    Overall, I’d still rather they don’t do that. Instead, give up your 2nd and 4th to go get Hageman if he’s your guy.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      ahahhahahahhahahhahahhahahhahah. This is low level stuff. I don’t know who this Hageman is, but I can tell you for sure Emery isn’t trading up 5 spots for him let alone 17. LOL.

      • he traded up for Jeffery. Hageman is a guy who Chicago is rumored to have strong interest in and was supposedly considering in round 1. One of those 6.

        He’s the most physically gifted DT in the class, which I am sure appeals to Emery. Lotta comparisons to Kyle Long, actually. Incredible combination of size/athleticism, still raw, some off-field troubles in the past that are a few years behind him.

        • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

          Look here:

          Gophers set up Hageman at times as a edge rusher.

          Sometimes he seems lost – his sitrep is low. Very low.
          But physically, he’s speed and power, 318 is a lot to like. He’s got a shitload of that Emery “v word”.

          • I thought way back in January he was an Emery type guy. If Emery had him as a top 15-20 guy on his board (highly possible IMO), I could see him giving up a 1st to get him.

            I’d rather try with a 2nd/4th though. Don’t like giving up future 1sts. But I expect him to try some sort of trade up for Hageman.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          If he is not the twin brother of Geno Atkins Emery will not spend a 1st round and a 2nd round for him. If he really is that good for such a high cost he would have drafted him at 14. PS: It’s logical spending a 2nd round and a 4th round for Jeffery -who was a clear beast- it’s another thing to sell your house for a DT.

    • Trac

      Agreed. You build picks by doing your job in the scouting department so you can trade down for more picks. I’m tired of bears GMs looking like crack addicts for a 5 dollar hit.

      • Trac

        In response to MB’s post.

        He will get receive an education next year. Trust me.

    • Big Mike

      I heard that as well. Sounds good now. But what will we do next March and April while we wait for the 2nd round. 🙁

  • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

    The Jaguars double Clusterfuck …. first taking Bortles where they did … and then …. they don’t even plan on starting him.

    • Trac

      Uh, that’s actually the right strategy. Manzel on the other hand will be starting for the Browns week 1. Good luck on that.

      • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

        I agree. QBs should ride the pine in apprentice fashion like the old days, but money has changed all of that. But if you’re drafting your QB that high, you pretty much have to start him or it’s like a deferred pick – nay, a lost or tarnished pick, as you get no production from it in year one.

        • Trac

          I hear you. Bortles will start this year at some point but the Jags won’t throw him in too soon.

    • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

      Irish –

      Ron Jeremy drafted the guy to sell tickets. Maybe he can sell beers in the crowd. Jags lost $80M last year, this is time to throw things at the wall and see if they stick.

  • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

    We may need to move up to 45. Pittsburgh are next at 46 and they’ll take Tuitt or Nix.

    If Kony Ealy is there, do we forego the DT in 2 ?

  • Irish Sweetness 4 Tuitt

    Tre Mason could be there. i guarantee you he’s higher rated than some of those DTs out there on their board. Keith McGill anyone? Ellis in the third ….

  • Here’s Watler’s top remaining players.
    “My top-25 available players for the second round (with links to their player profile):

    Marqise Lee , WR , USC

    Louis Nix , DT / NT , Notre Dame

    Kony Ealy , DE , Missouri

    Xavier Su’a-Filo , OG , UCLA

    RaShede Hageman , DT , Minnesota

    Morgan Moses , OT , OT, Virginia

    Demarcus Lawrence , DE / OLB , Boise State

    Joel Bitonio , OT / OG , Nevada

    Cody Latimer , WR , Indiana

    Jace Amaro , TE , Texas Tech

    Jeremiah Attaochu , OLB / DE , Georgia Tech

    Derek Carr , QB , Fresno State

    Stephon Tuitt , DE / DT , Notre Dame

    Scott Crichton , DE , Oregon State

    Carlos Hyde , RB , Ohio State

    Kyle Van Noy , OLB / ILB , BYU

    Troy Niklas , TE , Notre Dame

    Jordan Matthews , WR , Vanderbilt

    Austin Seferian-Jenkins , TE , Washington

    Chris Borland , ILB , Wisconsin

    Allen Robinson , WR , Penn State

    Keith McGill , CB , Utah

    Phillip Gaines , CB , Rice

    Carl Bradford , OLB / ILB , Arizona State

    Marcus Martin , C , USC”

    • Notice, no safeties.
      Crichton, Borland and McGill are real possibilities if we stay put.

      • Big Mike

        Bunch of mocks have hageman or nix to bears. Me likey

        • MB30SD

          I think we need to move up and get hageman. Fuck it. We won’t need our 4th and one of our 6s.

          Then get the best raw FS still there in the 3rd.

          • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

            But do you sacrifice a 1st rounder to move up and have him?

            I guess if we get him, we will be so fierce we will win it all, and next year’s 1st rounder will be at the #32 slot.

          • MB30SD

            I like that attitude!

          • IF we come within sniffing distance of Hagman or Tuitt, next year’s 2nd, this year’s 3rd would probably be the price.
            But to trade up in the top 5 in the 2nd. Yeah, we better win the SB.

          • Big Mike

            Fuck it, we’re going with Conte. Offensive weapon in rd 3. More big uglies in round 4-5 and with the 6s.

        • Hageman’s not dropping past Seahawks at 40. No-how, no-way.
          Tuitt would be nice, but since I like him, that means he’ll be drafted right before us.
          Jernigan seems to be dropping like a rock. There’s something going on there (the failed drug test?), but so many teams need a DT (Cowboys, etc), some team might be willing to gamble.

          The good news is I expect the TEs to be drafted in the 2nd, so that should give us a very solid 3rd. Wouldn’t surprise me that we get the most excited over our 3rd rounder.

          • MB30SD

            fucking groooooaaaaaaannnnnn

          • see. handle.

          • MB30SD

            yeah yeah, I know,

            I am fired up about fuller. he’s a total stud. I just wanted a FS. I really don’t think emery expected buchannon and ward to go in the first. I think he got hoodwinked.

          • It’s odd. this was a weak S class, so logic dictates, they’ll fall. The opposite happened.

            It’s like going to lesbian bar, and there’s maybe like 4 straight chicks. It almost doesn’t matter how they look, some dude’s going to buy them drinks.

            #supplyanddemand

          • MB30SD

            exactly. 100%

          • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

            Would a lesbian bar be called “Bar None”?

          • Bar Nun?

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            i’m now unimpressed with Hageman. His size is impressive but he plays limp.
            Sutton, Ellis, Nix and the like play violent and you know I likes the violence.

          • Hageman does seem like a loafer. A team’s hoping something will click, but that’s a big gamble. I wish I could interview him. I would ask him all kinds of wacky questions just to see how he reacts.

            For example.

            “What’s your stand on cannibalism? And if you did have to eat a body part or die of starvation, which body part would you nibble on?”

  • Big Mike

    Fuller to wear #23

    • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

      OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

      Maybe this #23 won’t be a quitter.

      Jericho time! BOOM!

      • MB30SD

        Jericho.

        • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

          Jericho

    • our new WR!

      • Big Mike

        A number 1.

  • bearsfantillend

    i am getting a little sentimental. Lets draft a slow white safety in the 3rd, better yet if he has a injury history.

    • MB30SD

      smfh

    • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

      And in the 5th we pick up the obligatory slow white mike from Rutgers.

      We call this the “Dom DeCicco Perigione moment”

      P.S. Pitt is an acceptable substitute if Rutgers had a black Mike that year.

  • Trac

    Here’s the rub on the draft hype and I now get Jeff’s point about mocks. Yes they may be fun but they are misleading. Thinking about all the mocks I read before yesterday, it’s now easy to see why we really shouldn’t put any stock in them whatsoever after the top three picks. They really just give you a hint of who each player is. Nothing more.

    • Big Mike

      There you go. The only thing the mocks do is occupy time and get you familiar with the new guys. Grading the draft’s however is the ultimate WTF. Way worse than mocks. Mocks have value, you get to see how teams are viewed, which analysts do their homework, and it’s a good starting point to take a look at players your team might take. I enjoy the heck out of it.

      • Trac

        Oh don’t get me wrong, I do enjoy them.

    • MB30SD

      but we all knew that. If you did feel that’s the case, theeeeeeen… I won’t say you’re slow, but you know.

      It is fun. and it’s the only thing football for months, so… you know. It’s that or watch baseball or basketball… or god forbid, hockey. Draft mocks all day please. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

      • That’s all they are. Some mocks did have CBs going to us. Dennard, Gilbert and yes, even Fuller. They’re just a consensus about where prospects might go, but NO ONE, not GMs, not Kipers, know how every team grades.

        The Rams were stunned Aaron Donald was still available at #13. They spent millions of man hours making their own draft, and not one of them probably had that computation.

        So “draftniks” aren’t the only ones who are inaccurate, but grown ass men making millions who’ve been doing it their whole lives are wrong too. The difference is almost negligible.

      • Trac

        My point is that after a while we start seeing what we want to see hence the letdown when Phil goes in another direction.

        I’m at peace with the Fuller pick.

        • MB30SD

          I really like the fuller pick. I just want a FS other than conte. that’s really the long and short of it for me.

    • I like mocks for trying to learn about players. so I gravitate towards mocks that give scouting reports and talk about why guys might fit with certain teams.

    • MB30SD

      Dix’s new nickname…. the black 007.

      DAMN kid looks gooooood.

      • MB30SD

        kinda wish he was ours. *SNIFF*

        • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

          Time to ween yourself off Dix.

          Especially Packer Dix.

          • MB30SD

            JERICHO!!!!

          • bearsfantillend

            I heard there is a support group for that. Unfortunately the success rate of weening group members off Packer Dix is very low. The leader of the group is some guy named Rodgers. He’s been trying to get off Dix for years.

  • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

    kind of like the Will Sutton highlight video. Seems aggressive.

    • MB30SD

      Yes! posted below. Big, looks fast-twitch. Violent.

      I like him.

    • “The player that he would compare to from last year is Bennie Logan, the
      Eagles 3rd round pick in 2013 from LSU. Sutton is about the same size
      but is more athletic than Logan and gets more production as a pass
      rusher. At 6’1, people may say he is a nose tackle, but I really think
      that he would be better off as a 3 technique on a 4-man front. He can
      play DE in a 3-4, but he lacks the desired height for that position. His
      productivity says he should go very high, but I feel he would be
      drafted somewhere between the 45th and 60th pick. He has starter traits,
      but you wish he was taller.”

      http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_player_scouting_report.html&player=54

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        Height is why Russell Wilson wasn’t a top 15 pick and they got it wrong. If you’re a violent offender it doesn’t matter if you’re 6’2 or 6’0 1/2
        If your goal is to lay waste then you will lay waste.

        • I think when scouts refer to ‘shortness’ they’re really talking about arm length, wing span.
          I checked.
          Donald has 32″ arms
          Sutton has 31″
          Jernigan (who’s an inch taller) has 31″ arms.

          Of course, a condor like Hagman at 6’6/310 with 34″ arms is probably preferable, but can’t always get want you want – Rolling Stones.

          • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

            agreed

        • MB30SD

          MY GOAL IS TO LAY WASTE….. SIR!!!

          SHOW ME YOUR WAR FAAAACE!!!!

    • Sutton looks..Sudden. Powerful. Quick off the snap. I don’t think I would mind him at #51. Looks a lot better than the clusterfuck leftovers at S, that’s for sure.

    • I think it just depends WHICH Sutton we’re getting, and if we trust our new Dline staff. I guess we gotta trust them, right?
      Weaknesses Short. Questionable competitiveness and
      desire. Motor runs hot and cold. Will disappear for stretches. Has some
      underachiever traits, and work ethic has a lot of area for improvement.
      Average strength at the point of attack. Can be turned and rooted out of
      the hole by the double team. Can improve hand use and develop more of a
      pass-rush arsenal. Poor timed speed.

      Draft Projection Rounds 4-5

      NFL.com

      • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

        My motor used to run hot and cold when I was being paid shit money to do a job I hated and wasn’t appreciated for. Then I was offered a job where the money was unlimited based on my effort and skill.
        My motor now runs hot.
        If you can get a guy like that in round 3,4,5 you take it and laugh and then replace the street free agents that you needed last year with young, hungry wolves.

        • Trac

          You have said it!

        • and honestly, which DT DOESN”T need to work on hand use, arsenal, technique? I assume that. Even Donald needs to work on those, and he’s extremely polished.

          Getting swallowed up by double-teams..well, if he weren’t, he’d be Suh and drafted in the top 5.

          I do wonder about his weight though. Did he gain it eating double-bacon cheeseburgers after clubbing, did he not work out, or was it something else?

          • MB30SD

            someone posted that his coaches asked him to put weight on to clog the middle… and clog his middle he did.

            Data? BC?

          • I would say that too if I got fat
            “Looking pudgy there, Butch”
            “Yup, coach asked me to put on some weight”
            “You play sports?”
            “Nope.”

          • MB30SD

            hahahah… erik is fat. fat little fuck

    • 2012 Sutton is a freaking beast.
      2013 Sutton not so great.

      Alshon 2.0, 2 years later. I’ve been on this kid in rd 2 for a while now. But I think Emery’s gonna do everything in his power to get Hageman.

      • Shady

        Sounds like Cowboys willing to trade up for thier D-Line guy too.

  • MB30SD

    GP: http://uncrate.com/stuff/audi-r8-lmx/

    Don’t like the blue, but woof!

  • Austin Augsburger

    Contest: Round 2 Ra’shede hageman DT
    round 3 – Charles smith RB

    • Emery, is that you?

      • Trac

        Hahaha

      • Austin Augsburger

        The real Phil emery

        • MB30SD

          the real jerry fucking angelo

    • Doooonnnn’t Caaaaare!

      who cares what you think Augsburger

    • it’s Charles Sims, btw.

      • Austin Augsburger

        I blame autocorrect on my phone

  • Shady

    Cleveland star WR Josh Gordon facing season long suspension for failed drug test? Maryjane? SERIOUSLY?! (SMH)

    • MB30SD

      #legalizeit?

      • Shady

        For medicinal purposes, of course.

        • MB30SD

          I was very sorry to hear that your cataracts has been acting up. :_ (

  • DaBearsBlog

    It Augsburger v. Vandermoon in a battle for oddest name and tickets. This Brian cat seems to have disappeared.

    • Shady

      Did Moon man make his picks yet?

      • DaBearsBlog

        Defensive Tackle – Tim Jernigan
        Running Back – Charles Sims

        • Shady

          I hope they’re right, but I don’t think there’s any way either Hageman or Jernigan are still on the board when the Bears make their pick… Unless they trade up.

  • DaBearsBlog

    The rule is they have to hit on both to be eligible tomorrow. If its DT, RB there will definitely be tickets given away.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    My bet remains in place. I see a Safety in the 2nd round and a DT in the 3rd. A juicy WR could be a wild card in round 3 because I don’t think Emery can stop himself if there is a big time play maker right there and pass him up.

  • Shady

    Draft own – check
    Beers – check
    Ribs on da Q – check
    Weekend – check

    Beautiful.

  • bearsfantillend

    GOD Trent Dilfer is a fucking idiot. Please stop with the food metaphor. Better question WHY THE FUCK AM I WATCHING ESPN? all fucking idiots

    • Watching NFL network. Mayock, Billick and Baldy not nearly as annoying.

      • bearsfantillend

        yep i switched over.

  • bearsfantillend

    Fuller is the 1st CB since Walt Harris to be drafted in 1st round by the Bears.

    • It’s ironic. Bears never valued CBs as much as other teams, and somehow we ended up with 2 PBs.

  • Shady

    Xavier Su´a Filo | OG, UCLA

  • Now the Browns almost have too draft a WR. That’s good. Maybe a WR run can start because of weed.

    • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

      Weed run.

  • MB30SD

    cowboys moving up

    • Shady

      Yep, gotta be D-Line. Facking Marinelli.

      • MB30SD

        yep. hageman?

        • gpldan on DRAFT DAY

          Kony?

    • 2nd and 3rd to move up 13 spots. Nice to know.

      • MB30SD

        wish we had an extra 2nd.

        fuck man, angelo fuck us so hard. turrible drafting and hardly ever got us extra picks. fuck that cunt

    • might get Jernigan. A little failed drug test never dissuaded Jerra.

      • MB30SD

        true story. man that dude is an asshole.

  • Shady

    Demarcus Lawrence | DE, Boise State

  • Dallas moved up for a DE. One less team to draft DT in front of Chicago.

    • DE/OLB at that. Even better. Not from the Chicago pool.

      • Yeah, I’m done with 3-4 Hybrids from Boise ST. I met my quota on that.

        • MB30SD

          I said the same thing out loud to the TV.

          “yeah, good luck with that assholes”

  • MB30SD

    they took that dude instead of jernigan, dix, hageman, sutton,
    etc…

    • Shady

      Lost a Demarcus (Ware) now they gain a Demarcus (Lawrence). Net net even on Demarcususeses.

      • MB30SD

        hahahaha

    • It’s Jerra. They also must have really believed He’d get drafted by the Browns.

  • Shady

    Joel Bitonio | OG, Nevada

    • MB30SD

      come on man. stop. not cool.

      I want to watch it on tv

      • Shady

        Just put your internet on mute.

        • MB30SD

          very funny. still want to chat with you guys… well, not you any more. jerk

    • He’s from LBC, West Siiidee.

      • Shady

        Dude looks like a BEAST!

        • Mayock, “He looks quicker than he looks”
          Translation, “Even though he’s white, he’s pretty quick”

      • MB30SD

        it’s all good in englewood?

  • MB30SD

    METCALF!

    • OG Hester.

      • MB30SD

        why wouldn’t they go with the WR from SC there?

        • I think they REALLY want to protect Manziel so that he doesn’t start getting squirrly back there, then get murdered by a Steeler or Raven running for the 1st.

          • MB30SD

            good point

          • yeah, then he can have that extra 0.5 seconds to throw it to…

  • Shady

    Look at OAK making moves.

    Derek Carr | QB, Fresno State

    • MB30SD

      I hate you. cunt.

      (not really, still love you, but please stop)

      • Shady

        *muah*

      • bearsfantillend

        got to agree, not cool.

    • Bakersfield…NOT Weeest Siiiide.

  • MB30SD

    that old dude was hilarious

    • DaMurph

      Us old dudes be like that!

      • MB30SD

        what happens when you just don’t give a fuck any more. hahaha

        • Like the grandpa in little mis sunshine, ‘You do heroine?”
          “Yeah, so what? I’m Ooold! I fought the Nazis! I’d be stupid not to do it.”

          • MB30SD

            fuck it, I’m going to do crazy shit once I hit 80. fuck it, Ill be living on borrowed time then anyway.

          • If I were in WW2, I’d milk that for everything.”
            “Grandpa, can you buy us an ice cream”
            “Fuck you. I fought the Nazis. Get your own ice scream”

        • DaMurph

          Man i want to get there, then Ill let you know!

    • Raider for life, “Yeah, I know you love us. Kiss my ass”

  • ATL could go for somebody on CHI’s list. Likely looking DL, IMO. Here’s hoping they go for a LB more than DT.

    My guess is Hageman or Ealy drop here though.

  • Shady

    **Spoiler Alert**

    Ra´shede Hageman | DT, Minnesota

    (Fuck)

    • bearsfantillend

      piece of shit. Douchebag Award goes to Shady.

      • Shady

        Blow me. I don’t make the pick, I just report it.

        • DaMurph

          I dont know how you get em Shady, It isnt showing on that site. WTF

    • DaMurph

      what are you watching Shady?

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      stop this, please. It’s confusing.

  • DaMurph

    another alert shady? a tight end?

    • Shady

      Don’t want to RUIN it for you homos.

  • Hageman’s going to pop out of his suit like the Hulk.

  • These people announcing picks are annoying.

    • Shady

      I was embarassed for Barry Sanders when he plugged the new Madden game last night.

  • I want a rookie to talk shit in the interview. Like, “What do you want to say to the Falcons fan?”
    “I’m going to bring the pain. I’m going to tear it up.”
    Then look dead in the camera, “Brees, Cam, I’m coming for you.”

  • Shady

    Lions traded up…

  • DaMurph

    Man this ESPN show is WAY late!

    • TWitter is already announcing pick 40, they just announced 38. Hurry the fuck up!

  • TE Sefarian Jenkins.
    I’m watching a pirate feed, so it’s ok.
    One TE down, two more to go.

    • Shady

      During his paid time off, Lovie must have realized that offense actually matters too.

  • Board falling pretty great for Bears so far. Through 30 (so 8 picks), only 1 of my 6 DT targets are gone.

    I’m not gonna spoil who any future ones are though. Still, looking good. 5 guys left; 10 teams before Chicago

  • I might just have to go off-line to enjoy the draft.

    • Shady

      Do you really need some random to announce it to you in front of a podium to enjoy the draft? It’s the information we’ve been waiting for, not the announcer.

      I hate Twitter, but this is actually one of its few redeeming qualities.

      • Yeah, I like girls who take the time to put on the make-up and high-heels, even though it’s coming off anyways.

        • Shady

          So is Herman Moore the mascara or lipstick of announcers?

      • also great for start of free agency

  • el_caney

    If Tuitt survives steelers, will have a good chance to land him. Crossing fingers

  • Shady

    Things (so far) seem to be falling the Bears way in terms of landing a solid D-Lineman. Hope Phil doesn’t get cute here.

  • 505 Bears

    DTs are falling…. what is the likelihood Emery goes with Amaro if he is still there?

    • Shady

      Slim to none, hopefully.

      • 505 Bears

        Agreed… hopefully one of those giant bigguns falls in our lap

  • MB30SD

    wow, 6’1″ 175. dude is a waif

    Sheesh.

  • MB30SD

    6 picks, how many DTs left?

    Tuitt
    Sutton
    Dix
    Jernigan
    …..

    Who am I missing?

    • DaMurph

      One is gone now

      • MB30SD

        damn it murph. stop

        • 505 Bears

          Haha… I’m the same way streaming on the POS Roku…Like playing online with a dialup connection

  • DaMurph

    Pitt took one of those MB

    • MB30SD

      STOP!

      • DaMurph

        not gonna tell ya who MB

        • Shady

          It’s Tuitt.

  • MB30SD

    Let’s get sutton.

    Fucking murph and shady.

    • DaMurph

      Im not event texting you MB

      • MB30SD

        grrrrrrrrrrrr

  • MB30SD

    dude, does pitt’s 1st round LB have eyebrows?!?!

    • Shady

      Spanish hairless.

      • MB30SD

        (not talking to you right now… jerk)

    • 505 Bears

      Latina painted on eyebrows

      • MB30SD

        Hahahahaha

  • MB30SD

    CD 2.0?

  • Shady

    Here comes the run on D-Lineman, Damn it!

    • MB30SD

      god damn it. I’m out, you guys suck.

      • 505 Bears

        You taking your ball and going home? HAHA

    • DaMurph

      brutal

  • Trac

    whos it gonna be boys?

    • DaMurph

      me and shady know who it aint!

    • 505 Bears

      By the lag on my Roku…I will find out sometime in the 3rd round

  • DaMurph

    bears on the clock

    • Trac

      Kony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • 505 Bears

        This shows you the evolution of the game…. no RBs?!

        • 505 Bears

          Oops, was supposed to be a new post… whiskey talking to a playa… haha

  • 505 Bears

    Damn, should draft Walter Jones. Bring his giant ass out of retirement

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Come on Ealy! !!

  • Shady

    Iron Mike!

  • Shady

    DT EGO FERGUSON LSU SEC

    OVERVIEW

    Spent the first three years of high school in Maryland before transferring to Hargrave Military Academy as a senior. Redshirted in 2010. Spent his first two seasons at LSU backing up Eagles 2013 third-rounder Bennie Logan. Saw action in 13 games in ’11 and managed 13 tackles, one-half tackle for loss and zero sacks with one batted pass. Did not play against Mississippi State. Came off the bench again in ’12 and posted 14-1-0 with a pass batted down in 13 contests. Moved into the starting lineup in ’13, logging 58-3.5-1 with three batted passes in 12 starts at defensive tackle. Was not allowed to travel to Tampa for the Outback Bowl for medical reasons. Did not work out at the NFL Scouting Combine because of a right ankle injury (medical exclusion).

    STRENGTHS Good size, foot speed, balance and athletic ability. Flashes the ability to stack, locate and shed. Bends his knees, redirects efficiently and has good range for a 300-pounder — flows well laterally. Nice closing speed. Had disruptive potential.

    WEAKNESSES Needs to get stronger through his core and base. Needs to quicken his hands and use them more violently. Raw counters and pass-rush moves. Power element is missing. Spends too much time idled at the line of scrimmage. Does not dominate single blocks and gets beat up by double teams. Limited two-gap ability. Disappears for long stretches. Only a one-year starter with minimal behind-the-line production.

    DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 2-3

    BOTTOM LINE Athletic, raw, developmental three-technique with clear upside, though he is inexperienced, aimless and unrefined at this stage of his development. Needs more glass in his diet and simply does not impact games the way he should. Is likely to test well and be drafted higher than his performance dictates in the hopes a defensive line coach can tap into his potential.

  • tobijohn

    I don’t know about a guy who needs more glass in his diet…

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Booooooo!

  • Shady

    Big fatty who should help against the run, free up the LBs to make plays and has the ability to rush the QB a bit…. More than Nix anyway.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    1. there was no DT run…. 2. there was another S picked within pick 40 so I guess there was not such a big drop off from the 4 selected last year. Emery got the DT. People should stop with the parania now. PS: We are fucked at Safety, guys. lol

  • Trac

    Let me just get one thing clear, Emery is a strange cat.

    • DaMurph

      very!

  • 505 Bears

    Ego? Wasn’t he a Ghostbuster? WTF? We going to pass on a guy like Jernigan because of some minor off-field stuff? Hello Burfict

  • tobijohn

    Was this guy’s name ever mentioned on the Blog?

    • Shady

      Yes, check the last thread.

    • 505 Bears

      Yeah, but not in the 2nd

  • Shady
  • 505 Bears

    Does Emery trade back up into the 2nd considering the DL left?

  • tobijohn

    Well, are we OK with this pick?

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      No

    • 505 Bears

      I like that he played in the SEC and had no injuries. Agility too… fat, but not a fat bastard. I can live with it.

  • Trac

    new thread

    • 505 Bears

      What is the longest thread ever? Conte fuck up? Preseason 4-0 year?

  • 505 Bears

    Ever notice all these guys when they show their homes/reactions, have a token white girl… No wonder black girls are so angty 🙂

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