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Bears at Redskins Final Notes & Game Day Chat

| October 19th, 2013

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Three final thoughts on the ball game:

  1. A lot has been made about the expectations surrounding rookie MLB Jon Bostic. I sure hope fans and media do not let this game become a referendum on him. In this defensive system a lot is asked of the position manned by Brian Urlacher for a decade and Bostic should not be expected to find a comfort level in the defense after a few meaningless preseason games and nine days of practice. Bostic should not let the nerves/excitement of his first start stir his penchant for over-aggressiveness. Stay disciplined. Play within the system.
  2. I missed the stories in the lead-up to my game preview but the Washington Redskins have struggled mightily on special teams thus far in 2013. If there was ever going to be a week for Joe D to figure out the team’s coverage and blocking issues, this is it. (The more I look at tape of the Bears special teams units the more critical I become of Joe D’s work.)
  3. I watched the Jay Cutler press conference live. Jay was asked if he had any specific comments about facing DeAngelo Hall again. Jay said Hall was “just another player”, meaning he was preparing to face Hall like he’d prepare for Kerrigan or Orakpo or me. Of course Pro Football Talk runs this headline: JAY CUTLER ISN’T IMPRESSED BY DEANGELO HALL. This is what PFT – once the most important website in the NFL – has become. Cutler vs. Hall should be trumpeted this week as a grand football rematch. But we don’t have that media unfortunately.

Bear down. The action of a new generation. And since you all wanted a chat room…



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  • Cormonster
    • DaMurph

      and we can chat too!

  • Big John from Tucson

    BEAR DOWN!!!

  • Doc Nitty

    BEAR DOWN!!

  • gpldan

    Big game from Cohen.

    I can’t believe I just said that

  • Meggles

    Chat?!?! So advanced!!! Tee hee

  • Ronald Raes

    Game just ended, and all i can say is: THIS DEFENSE IS A FUCKING EMBARRASMENT!

  • gpldan

    I was wondering: Could Julius Peppers give less of a fuck as a football player?

    • Trac

      I’m wondering if the Packers will score over 73 points on this pathetic Defense. Oh Nelli, why? Why? Why did you abandon us? Woe, Woe I say!

      • gpldan

        Peppers so clearly does NOT care anymore. I’ve seen mailing it in and then there was that.

        • Trac

          Every 3 or 4 years he gets tired of the team he’s on and he checks out while his agent looks for a new gig. Sad but true.

  • Trac

    Well Jeff, I was right, you were wrong. Jeffrey and Marshall led the team in receptions, Forte had a great game on the ground, 3 TD’s. But Guess what, the FRIGGIN PINK ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, OUR DEFENSE, SUCKS ASS.

  • tobijohn

    I don’t think anyone, including the press, expected this year’s Defense to be as bad as it has…

    • tobijohn

      I have this terrible vision of Lovie watching these games and just chuckling to himself…

      • NewBearInTown

        I actually think Lovie watches these games and feels genuinely bad for the players he coached. He’s probably thinking “Common Major, you’re better than this.” He’s probably hoping Tillman and Briggs don’t go out with lousy stats because they try too hard to overcompensate for the rest of the team. He’s probably wishing he could have gotten the chance to coach up Bostic. He’s probably still wondering why the team took Shea McLellin instead of a true DE like Chandler Jones.
        But he’s the kind of person that wouldn’t wish ill on anyone. I bet he’s confident that in this season of teams with good defenses making strides and teams with overpaid QBs losing games that the wheel will turn again toward defense minded head coaches.

        • CanadaBear

          Here’s a nice article on Lovie from SI.

          http://mmqb.si.com/2013/10/17/lovie-smith-minority-coaches/

          • SC Dave

            Deciding whether to read past here… “led Chicago to two NFC championship games and came within a few Rex Grossman turnovers of stealing Super Bowl XLI.”

            You win as a team, and you lose as a team.

  • gpldan

    This just in: Chandler Jones made several huge sacks last week for the Pats including the one to seal the game for them.

    Chicken Dinner is a bust.

    Now, back to your show…

    • Trac

      Yes GP, it’s horrible. And anyone that thinks CD was not Emery’s darling pick, get over it. Emery locked onto him while he was with the Chiefs and never checked down. Very disappointing.

  • Ronald Raes

    I can’t remember being more proud of our offense. to see it all go for naught because we litterally cannot stop anything…fuck.

  • Doc Nitty

    How do the Chicago Bears score 42 points and lose? How does that fucking happen? I seem to remember hearing after the Lions lost that the bears hadn’t lost a game when they scored over 30 since the sixties or something. Am I remembering that right? And if so, have the bears EVER lost when scoring 42? Motherfucker, I’m pissed.

    • SC Dave

      I was going to ask Doc, if *any* of the old timers here ever remember the Bears scoring 40 and losing. I’ve been a fan since 1965, and I cannot remember a single occasion.

      • CanadaBear

        It’s so rare for us to score forty period. I don’t remember ever losing after scoring 40. Usually if we scored forty we smoked somebody.

    • Ronald Raes

      it’s just unbelievable. what a waste.

    • Ufficio

      Well, when you never score 42 points…

    • NewBearInTown

      Before I moved to Chicago, I had no team. I watched football for football. Enjoyed seeing the Giants win their first Superbowl against New England behind that brutal pass rush. Enjoyed watching Tampa Bay and Baltimore win Superbowls with absolutely choking defense. Enjoyed seeing Parcells’ rebuilding efforts in Miami. Enjoyed seeing a team like Detroit or Green Bay have success with good drafting.
      Then I moved here and became a Bears guy. And the amount of time I have invested in this team, I’ll always be a Bears guy. But I have to tell you, it is a strange feeling following a team when they don’t play the style of football that I love.
      I like the new offense. I like Marshall and Bennett(s) and Cutler a lot. But I really hope our defense turns around. I hope Emery hits it out of the park this next off-season.

  • Waffle

    you’re not supposed to blame one player for a loss but if we had to could we all agree that Chris Conte is the worst fucking football player on the field? Could we do that? Could one player have more of an incredibly negative impact on a game on so many different plays?

    • Trac

      Yes Waffle, sadly…yes. Rex Grossman!

    • SC Dave

      Major Wright, for one

      • Waffle

        Conte surpassed Wright spectacularly today. Running into a WR and knocking himself down on one of the worst thrown balls this year was classic Conte gamechanging and ludicrous. getting beat on a corner route by a TE when the TE didn’t. even. make. a. fucking. move.

        • SC Dave

          I knew you or MB would stupidly bitch about that TE play. smh

          Making up for a shit defensive call, he runs out there. NO INSIDE HELP at all, so he HAS to cover the slant route. RG makes a nearly perfect throw.

          Yeah, Conte is too slow, but there is no safety in NFL history that stops that particular play.

          The other one, and a couple of running plays sure did look bad though. Although Peanut blew that other play badly too.

          • Waffle

            he was 8yds off him and got beat by almost 3yds. Fucking pathetic. No one is saying RG3 didn’t throw a good ball. I could name dozens of other Conte specials if you’d like Dave. He was brutal and it hurt the team.
            Also he played a huge part in a ROOKIE TE hanging 134yds on the Bears and looking like fucking Tony Gonzalez.

  • SC Dave

    Positives:
    1) Josh McCown(!!) Played better (granted it’s one game) better than average Jay.
    2) David Bass.
    3) A Camel-ass special team setting up a sideline seam.
    4) Devin Hester getting out of trouble to find it.

    Negatives:
    1) Scoring 40 points and losing, for the first time in my life.
    2) The defense
    3) The defense
    4) The defense
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    n) The defense

    • Guest

      Look what Jay has done for years with nothing and what he’s done this year with something you fucking clown. UNBELIEVABLE. What a horseshit comment. So fucking disappointing, very yahoo-esque.

      • NewBearInTown

        That’s an excuse. Cutler and all his toys have still struggled this year to put together 4 quarters.
        I think McCown benefited a lot this game from the element of surprise. Now that teams know what he’ll be running, they’ll show up a lot better. And that starts in 2 weeks. But yeah, good game for him.
        If Cutty really is hurt… I could still see someone we pick up off the street come in and beat McCown for the starting job.

        • SC Dave

          I’m sure Emery was looking as soon as Jay got on the cart.

          But as for right now, McCown is our guy. And he ran the offense well enough for us to win for sure. Had we a defense today, that is.

        • Waffle

          word on the street is that they already contacted Jordan Palmer

      • SC Dave

        Normally, I don’t waste my time with trolls, but eat shit, you little punk tool. Snotty-nosed little asswipes with no history here hiding behind “guest”… talk about disappointing and yahoo-like.

        What a little cunt you are.

  • SC Dave

    With apologies in advance to Al… know that I hesitated bro…

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    .Are you a nobody?
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    What to be somebody?
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    Don’t be too tense!
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    Kill the Bears defense!

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    Burma shave

  • bearsfantillend

    if cutler is out for a significant amount of time, we could resign him to a decent contract that wouldn’t hurt the cap to much and give us some room to significantly rebuild the defence

    • Trac

      And how does that help us this year? Sorry but I’m not in the mood to talk cap right now. By the looks of it, Phil is gonna have to blow his wad on Defense next year or it won’t matter how much we sign Cutty for.

      • SC Dave

        Unfortunately, you’re probably right.

      • bearsfantillend

        i am pretty sure we watched the same game.. The defense is and will be horrendous this year. I was just trying to find a bright spot in the giant pile of shit that was dumped on the defensive side of the ball today. Its unfortunate that jay got hurt but the defense needs about 8 new and better players on it for next year.

  • Trac

    I’m channeling some very strong Sam Kinison vibes towards our Defense right now.

  • Waffle

    can trestman call a fucking full fucking game at some point this season?

  • Shady

    @MikeSilver

    Two Bears sources on Cutler injury: It could be bad. @nflnetwork

    Retweeted by DaBearsBlog

    … If Jay’s season is over, THE season is over.

    • Waffle

      dude he tore that shit and the crazy thing is that people are going to be focused on who to go get next year at QB when we need about 7 guys on D. Our D is fucking pathetic and they were pathetic before the injuries.

  • NewBearInTown

    If you told me two months ago that NYG, TB, and Jax would be the bottom three in the league right now, I would have bet you money otherwise.
    If you told me that Minny and Pittsburgh would be #4-5 worst and that those 5 teams would combine for 2 wins… I’d have taken double or nothing.
    If you told me that the Bears would miss the playoffs because the defense dropped off, because Cutler got injured or because special teams were below average… I’m trying to decide if that would have been more surprising. I guess maybe not.
    Cutler getting hurt the way he did is surprising, but we’ve been worrying about it for a few years now thanks to lousy blocking.
    The defense has been giving up yardage and struggling with the pass rush for a few years also. The discipline of the back 7 has been the real surprise this year. But we knew that Tillman and Briggs were getting older. We knew the safeties were only average and could easily regress with bad coaching. We knew that the linebacker group was shallow, albeit outstanding at the top. We still had a nice turnover this game, but its time for a major overhaul on that side of the ball.
    I think the drop off in special teams is the biggest surprise. At least they got better this game.
    I’m hoping Trestman, Emery, Tucker, Joe D and whoever else is working on this can make some positive changes for us on D/ST in season. If Cutler is out and we can’t develop these rookies this year… the Chicago Bears will be a bottom third defense in 2014.
    That’s surprising.

  • CanadaBear

    Didn’t get to see the game but looking at the stats, it was ugly. Give up almost 500 yds and not win the turnover battle, Uh-Oh. Give up over 200 yds on the ground, yeah that TOP will be lopsided. Once again an old D gets winded down the stretch and blows chunks. Damn. Sounds like the injury to Cutler is serious. Turn out the lights, the party’s over.

    • SC Dave

      Seems we’re in the habit of making other teams look good on offense. It’s scary to think what Rodgers could do to us.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    Wow…I was worried about our defense when I saw the lack of pass rush vs. the Bengals and Dalton, I was even more worried about how Bush ran over them vs. Detroit, now I see all those worried feelings that have been nagging at the back of my brain come to fruition today against Washington.

    We finally get a half way decent O-line, and very good Offensive minded Head Coach and Jay, save for the Detroit game, playing well…Just to watch our Defense get raped over and over again. We need to find someone to replace Conte RIGHT NOW, he looks like a high school kid who got in the wrong bus. Don’t get me wrong he’s not the ONLY problem our defense has but holy crap it’s laughable trying to watch him try and stop ANYTHING save his own embarrassment.

    Now with Cutty down, at least for the next 2 games if the rumors of the severity are true, I feel the season is a bust. I hate to say that and I know football is a strange animal that is hard to predict. But shit…I’m very low right now…

  • gpldan

    After watching Cutty go down in slow-mo a couple times now, I am afraid to think what I think may have happened.

    Let’s just say I don’t know that Jay was wearing a cup. And that the Cutlet may be his last kid.

    He looks like he took a full on junk shot with the knee. Gives new meaning to dropping the ball.

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