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Rapid Fire Response to the Bears Victory over Ravens

| November 18th, 2013

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So the Bears won. After hours of delay due to a possible tornado, the Bears won. What did I think of the game? I thought it was one of the gutsiest wins in recent memory. Here are my other thoughts:

  • Josh McCown showed his limitations Sunday, unable to get the ball to the hands of his big receivers in the endzone. McCown played solidly, again, but doesn’t have much in the arm department.
  • Brandon Marshall may have played his worst game as a Bear.
  • Alshon Jeffery is a wonderful player but his drops are becoming a storyline.
  • Corey Wootton belongs inside, Mel Tucker. He’s developing into quite the three-technique.
  • I’m not sure Jon Bostic isn’t going to be a great player.
  • Nice work by Julius Peppers. He didn’t play a dominant game but he showed up.
  • Zack Bowman was awful, start to finish. How many penalties do you need to commit on special teams before you stop playing special teams?

  • I’l give him credit: I thought Adam Podlesh punted well.
  • Great kick in overtime, Robbie Gould.
  • Donte Rosario, nice block.
  • Too many pre-snap penalties on the defensive side of the ball. I don’t understand them. Why is a defensive line jumping offside when they have no chance to get to the QB?
  • Chris Conte stinks.
  • Major Wright was barely visible.
  • Did you not think the Bears would miss Charles Tillnabn?
  • David Bass deserves all the credit in the world. Without that pick six there is no game.

We’ll come back with far more info as the week goes on. But this is charity week at DBB. And we’ll spend a lot of time on charitable causes.

This was a bold win by the Bears. A defiant win. An impressive win. If you don’t understand that, you are lost. The Bears are now contenders for the division title and postseason because they won this game.

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  • Trac

    Did you guys watch Trestmans post game comments? The number one thing a qb has to do is protect the football. Jay, did you hear that?

    • Ghost of Waffle

      even if it means not scoring a TD on offense until the 4th quarter…..with 6 trys from the 3.
      We don’t have the D and specials to score 1 TD a game. Trestman should concentrate more on how to fucking call plays from the 5yd line on in.

      • Trac

        I agree with you but McCown was not placing the ball as well as he could have and our WR’s were not getting open in the endzone. Josh was lucky cause I counted at least two passes that could easily have been picked off in the endzone.

        • Ghost of Waffle

          Marshall and Bennett didn’t do Josh any favors earlier in the game to completely fair. Bennett dropped a TD and Marshall let Jimmy Graham owned him. I wish it was Jay slamming home a backshoulder to him but I felt the WR’s could’ve done a better job for our QB.

          • Ghost of Waffle

            mean’t Jimmy Smith

      • NewBearInTown

        Emery is building a tougher line. It might be another year before we get there, but we’ll get better at pushing up the middle for the 1 yard TD.

        • Ghost of Waffle

          when i see Fiammetta running pass routes instead of plowing into linebackers i get really pissed. Trestman tries to be too cute.

          • SC Dave

            Methinks that no one on this blog is sufficiently versed in running an NFL offense to criticize Trestman for what he’s doing.

          • Ghost of Waffle

            Dave, the bears couldn’t get in the endzone on 6 trys from the 3. They tried to make McCown be Cutler and it didn’t work. They didn’t try to jam it in with a FB lead blocking, they didn’t try a fake dive to Fiammetta and misdirection pitch to Forte, they didn’t run to the edge and they didn’t try playaction. Bennett dropped a chance that was high and to the back of the end zone and Marshall got molested on a slant that didn’t get there fast enough.
            I’ll fucking criticize whoever the fuck i want because god knows you’d be shitting down Cutlers throat if he couldn’t get it in from the 3 on 6 fucking trys. You’d be complaining your ass off if a Cutler led offense scored their first TD in the 4th quarter and needed David Bass to score.
            I don’t think i’m the only one seeing a coach over thinking in the dark red zone just like Tice did. Run the fucking rock behind Long with Fiammetta lead blocking. Make the LB’s commit to the run and then pull it out and go to the 6’6 TE covered by a tiny DB.

          • bearsfantillend

            true, but we all were sufficiently versed enough to criticize the last OC, so forgive us for attempting to criticize the current incarnation of the Bears offense.

          • NewBearInTown

            Brian Billick wrote in his book that you work a whole week on a game plan and sometimes the other team just has your number. You end up looking like you had a lousy plan, but sometimes its just not true. And sometimes it is.
            Sometimes you’ve got a great idea, it looks great in practice, but then you get on the field and its a disaster.

          • Scharfinator

            Everyone let it be known, Dave will never criticize coaching or players again because he doesn’t have that knowledge =P

    • SC Dave

      Hey guys… yes, it did not look as good as it might. 50mph winds will do that.

  • beninnorcal

    Wow, I work nights and usually stay up thru e early games, but I went to bed with Bears down 10-0. Now I gotta fast fwd thru a 6 hr dvr recording tomorrow on my day off. Bear down folks.

  • Trac

    Dave, one things for sure, our backup outplayed a 100 million dollar quarterback today.

    • NewBearInTown

      I’m not sure that’s the story of a 23-20 game.

      • Trac

        That was a side note to a conversation on an earlier thread. No turnovers, that pic 6 and Trestmans decision to kick the field goal on 4th and 1 in the red zone is why the Bears won.

    • SC Dave

      At least, Trac, played well enough for the good guys to win. Good enough for me.

  • Trac

    The Dallas, Philly and Green bay games will tell the tale. Cleveland is tougher than their record indicates and Philly can be unpredictable. If the Bears win the division, it may be quite a memorable season.

  • NewBearInTown

    Alright, I’ll jump in before Johnny on this.
    The Bears were one of the top 3 teams in the league in scoring with Cutler healthy. When he comes back in good shape, we’ve still got the horses to go right back to scoring huge numbers. McCown has been a great backup, but we’re averaging something like 10 points less per game with him at QB.
    I would love to have Andrew Luck or Aaron Rodgers as my starting quarterback, but that’s not going to happen. We’re not drafting Manziel, we’re not bringing in Tebow. If someone offered me the number 1 pick in the draft for Cutler, I wouldn’t take it – I’ll take Cutler over Bridgewater as well.
    Cutler is the starter, period.

    • Trac

      If jay can just protect the football, the sky is the limit with this offense.

      • NewBearInTown

        Where are you seeing that in the stats? He’s not throwing a ton of picks this season.

        • Trac

          He’s had several fumbles and one got run back for a TD. It happens,

          • NewBearInTown

            I’d like to see stats on starting QBs and fumbles in the league. Passing offenses give up sacks – its a risk you take for the long ball.
            But I agree, that’s something you can always get better at.

          • johnnywad

            One bad turnover game. First Lions game. Skews everything

          • BerwynBomber

            That stuff generally evens out. Jay was also helped by late game stat-stuffing against Detroit and NO and could have arguably been on the hook for two more picks against Washington if Hall comes up with those plays — at least I think Hall was the DB who undercut both routes.
            Anyway, big picture I think we have seen incremental improvement from Cutler this year with his new weapons, new line and new coach. But he is also anywhere from 10-15 in overall league passer ratings. Not bad but not lights out either.
            My feeling is — IF the season ended today — you put the tag on him. But that is if the season ended today. Who knows, maybe by season’s end he will have earned the huge contract.

      • el_caney

        A huge “IF”

        • SC Dave

          http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2013/passing.htm

          Sort on interception % for one metric. Some surprising names at the low % end, but the best guys are normally pretty early in the list.

          Regrettably, this chart is missing the “FL” (fumbles lost) stat – then there would be the data needed.

    • Ghost of Waffle

      We are blessed with a top quality starting QB, a backup that is more than capable and a pair of offensive coaches that understand the advantage of a quick hitting offense that gets the ball into our weapons hands asap.

      • Ghost of Waffle

        oh and do we have weapons. I’ve not seen offensive firepower like this on a Bears team ever.

      • D

        You mean those coaches that could not get the ball in 3 of 6 times you had just finished denigrating at the top of this thread?

        • Ghost of Waffle

          yes, those very same coaches. Just because Trestman isn’t having success in the red zone as much as i’d like doesn’t mean that he and Kromer and Emery aren’t doing a great job fixing the mistakes of Angelo, Martz and Tice.
          The line is much improved finally and the offensive scheme is overall coherent and appropriate for the large amount of talent.

    • Jokey

      I agree. But there were 2 fumbles for TDs, one by Vikings DE Brian Robison, another by Nick Fairley, in consecutive weeks. It’s tops on Culter’s Needs Improvement list. I think he’s been throwing it away more. He still holds the ball too low, especially when scrambling.

      • SC Dave

        It seems to me (subjectively, no metrics) that Jay HAS thrown the ball away more often. To me, it’s the single biggest improvement he has made over last year. Whether it is a confidence thing (i.e. we CAN score so we’ll just do so next drive) or specific instruction from the staff does not matter to me. What does is that he’s gotten better at it.

  • Scharfinator

    Jeff, what drops are you referring to from Jeffrey? I don’t remember any, though that’s not to say they didn’t happen.

    It was good to see Black Unicorn get a catch and an important one at that.

    • DaBearsBlog

      Jeffery dropped the pass that was challenged, that should have been a fumble early.

      • he made the catch, fumbled it, and somehow stole it back from the defender with his man arms. i’m ok with that.

        • BerwynBomber

          I think he means the one in the first quarter that they overruled from complete and down by contact to incomplete. To me it looked like a clear catch and fumble and the Crows had recovered.

          • ah. was that before the apocalypse delay? if so, i done did miss it.

  • SC Dave

    To tell the truth, the biggest thing that surprised me today was the defense not folding and losing at the very end of regulation. It soooo looked like the Redskins game all over again.

    But all’s well that ends well!

    • they certainly tried. only thing that saved us was that botched snap on the 3rd and goal from the 2. if that snap is clean, i swear to sweetness he hits a wide open torry smith in the back of the endzone.

      • BerwynBomber

        Good point. The 2nd down play was key too. We dared them to pass and they didn’t. If they had run play-action there we would have been dead. Bad coaching sequence, IMV, by Harbaugh.

  • Shady

    Well up until the last paragraph I’d say that was a rather dour rapid fire response.

    McDrago could be STARTING for a few teams in the league right now.

  • Ghost of Waffle

    This is the type of bullshit call by a ref that changes a game. The refs almost took this game from us by calling Bowman for tackling Rice by the front of his jersey and top of his should pad.

    Imagine how pissed we’d be if Peppers got flagged for this type of hit and it lost us the game:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/san-francisco-loses-thanks-questionable-roughing-passer-penalty-010907339–nfl.html

    I’d consider never watching the NFL ever again.

  • BerwynBomber

    “Peppers … didn’t play a dominant game.” Huh? He had 11 TT, 8 solos, 2 sacks and 4 TFLs. What constitutes a dominant game for you by a DE?

    • SC Dave

      I’m not quite sure what else Julius should have done either.

  • MB30SD

    I’m not sure Jon Bostic isn’t going to be a great player.

    This.

    Won’t say I called this after checking him out the night of the draft… but I did. So there.

    • SC Dave

      Not really disagreeing, but double negatives… sheesh…

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD

    hee hee

    http://nfl.si.com/2013/11/17/detroit-lions-fake-field-goal-pittsburgh-steelers/?eref=sihp

    warms the cockles of my heart.

    Here we go trac… it start here for your lions. Down we go!

    • Trac

      and lamo was his namo. lol

      • MB30SD

        Careful who you support publicly right? Hahaha

        • Trac

          You’re just annoyed because I was right and you were……… lol

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-5xIPAzZuM

          Enjoy Canada. I KNOW you’ll appreciate this.

          • MB30SD

            oh come on now… this is juuuust about when the wheels come off. That was my original assertion, that while they DEF have the talent and they have looked strong in the first half the last 3-4 years, this is exactly when they start falling apart because of that dipshit schwartz and how undisciplined they are.

          • Trac

            Are you looking into the mirror as you say that? haha. Just grinding you pal! Turnabout is fair play. At least I didn’t refer to them as your lions. lol

          • MB30SD

            I knew that was getting to you. Hahahahaha…

            Can I file a grievance with jeff because I’m being bullied?

          • SC Dave

            So long as we can call you a pussy for doing so.

  • MB30SD
  • Cormonster

    That was one of the gutsiest wins I’ve sèen in a long time. I’ve been posting here for about 4 years and never bitched about officiating other than an occasional call.

    Maybe it was just my emotions, but today it felt like we were playing against the Ravens and the refs. I think many of the players felt the same way. The team showed determination in face of that adversity, and I loved it.

    I was feeling slighted today, so late in the 3rd I put on a Bears hoody shirt from college circa 1992 with hood up for the rest of the game. In a small way, I think that contributed to the victory.

    I was also proud of the fans at the game today. Many left, but those who stayed cheered their asses off. That was one of the loudest crowds I’ve heard in a while.

    Bear down!

    • MB30SD
    • it’s funny. was watching the game at a bar here in nyc, and towards the end of the 3rd quarter we all noticed a new electricity in the air. we looked around, but there were no new patrons so we couldn’t figure out what was happening. one of the guys said, “i bet cormonster put on that bears hoodie from circa 1992.” none of us believed him.

      boy is my face red.

      • SC Dave

        lol… good one

      • Cormonster

        Nice one. I did mean that as a joke.

        • little bit of truth in every joke. besides, aren’t we as sports fans some of the most superstitious people on earth? i got rid of my softest, most wearable ny rangers tshirt after last season because they lost all 5 playoff games (over 2 rounds) i wore it for.

  • Scala

    So…”Josh McCown showed his limitations Sunday.” Right…and Mr, Jay Int Cutler?
    Great game, btw. Just love it!
    Chris Conte & Zack Bowman sucks!
    Bear Down!

    • D

      From Da Site:
      “McCown was 19-of-31 passing for 216 yards and a touchdown for a 92.9 passer rating in the win.”
      I’ll take limitations like that all season.

      • bearsFanatic

        Agreed. Bears are blessed to have McCown doing what he’s doing right now. Look at the Packers. 🙂 Man that felt good to type that.

        • MB30SD

          Amazing that rodgers IS that entire fucking football team. With him they can beat anyone, without him they can’t beat 2nd string ball state.

          Hee hee

          • SC Dave

            If there is ever a case for a year-after-year MVP, it is Aaron Rodgers. And you *know* I hate typing that shit.

      • Ghost of Waffle

        I’ll take those numbers in a monsoon but please remember that 50 or 60 of those yards came in overtime. Please don’t be dumb. He had about 165 at the end of the 4th quarter. NO team can survive on that unless it’s crazy situations like that yesterday. Please remember that we needed a defensive TD or else we lose.

        • SC Dave

          Wow… only Waffle could find fault with our guy making the plays when they counted most and winning the game.

          • Ghost of Waffle

            Dave, look at my 30 other posts on the game and realize that I love that McCown is doing well and know that he helped the team win and appreciate it. I’m merely asking people not to act like they’ve never seen an offense before.
            Stop.

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