• MikeBrownhadaPosse

    The good news is that had I booked next weeks game as originally intended, we’d really be fucked.
    Right now, I’d say it’s a coin flip.

  • gpldan

    Not sure, Jeff, why you want to move on so fast and say that discussing Cutler is insane. It’s not. This game was over after the Eagles opened the game with three TDs.

    So, there was a lot of football. Kids went to bed, everybody in bed. I watched the game. Lots of time for Cutler to find some game, find some measure of attack. Forte looked terrible, got run over, looked like he could give a damn. The safety was disgusting. Podlesh was a JOKE. DeCamillis, fuck that guy.

    It’s then you find your QB. And they folded. Looked down Marshall, ignored Jeffery. Forte didn’t run hard. OL got blown off the line. Chicken Dinner kept crashing down and leaving the wide run wide open. But AT SOME POINT, the starting QB gets some rally, even if it’s just feel-better points and Cutler throws pick-6 in a joke 2 deep zone look. He stopped caring. Whole team quit.

    So now we have a Packer game where – if we want to win – and I WANT TO WIN, you have to admit this team GAVE UP on it’s coach, on it’s everything, they got SLAPPED AROUND like Sharon Stone in Casino.

    So, we have to face something here on the blog. This particular team needs to start McCown against the Packers or face an entire offseason of eating rotten egg filled shit from PackerFan. From Cheesy. If the Packers come into Soldier Field and take this division crown away from the Chicago Bears – this organization has no pride. NO PRIDE. Hang the head.

    I’m sick of hearing about Cutler can make throws McCown can’t. Maybe so. Maybe if we were playing the Superstars on ABC with Cosell and there was that tire machine moving the ring hoops, Cutler wins with the mousse in his hair.

    But THIS TEAM – at THIS TIME – Cutler has lost the team. He held the ball too long on at least two of his sacks. His mechanics went out the window, even though he seems like he could run.

    So, this is for all the marbles. Detroit handed us the annual implosion, and the Pack was down and out of it. They get off the mat, and they come here and we have no offense, we blow this thing with Cutler at the helm – fuck it. I mean, fuck it. It’s officially Cub fandom at that point.

    So, come on. You have the bully pulpit here. Do the right thing: call for McCown to start. The team believes in that guy. They may show up with some heart. The stakes are high. Start Cutler and lay down in the postseason, but god DAMMIT – start the team that wants to play out there and can win it.

    • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

      After all that you saw tonight this is what you came up with. That is unfortunate.

    • BerwynBomber

      Thumb’s up on the passion but no way in Hades are they benching Cutler. And if there is one QB in the league who is due against the Cheese it is Cutler. I also think the one Packer who used to get in Jay’s head/under his skin was Woodson, who has now gone. He did for them what Peanut does for us. I feel good about our chances heading into this. And I’m not unconvinced that Rodgers will be rusty, even if he plays.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      I think this almost the perfect scenario to find out once and for all if Cutler is our QB. GB has had Cutler’s number, which some will transfer to the OCs, GM, personnel, etc and it’s a little of all, but to me, this has become D-day – no ‘ifs’, hypothetical or excuses.

      If your QB can’t beat your division rival at home to get into the playoffs, sorry – time to move on. My Cutler agnosticism will turn into skepticism IF Cutler comes out and starts throwing picks, overthrown balls, or taking unnecessary sacks.

      But we gotta play Cutler to find out where the Bears franchise is going. I can’t imagine Emery and Trestman would make that call after the Eagle’s game.

      • Macca@Beardownuk

        Perfect way to put it. “I think this almost the perfect scenario to find out once and for all if Cutler is our QB.”

        Franchise QB’s are judged on the way they bring their team together to win games when you are up against it. 3 points when the other team is 24-0 up is pitiful. Worse yet in the second half we’re outscored 30-8. We didnt even suggest a comeback was on the cards.

        Without wins you are Matthew Stafford, a guy with the numbers but no leadership when times get tough.

        This Sunday we have a game against our oldest rival. We’re at home and its do or die for the playoffs. If we lose without a huge fight from our offense, i think we will have our answer.

        • SC Dave

          The answer was obvious for all to see yesterday.

          • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

            yesterday was a complete breakdown and embarrassment in every phase. For you to think anything was obvious about the quarterback yesterday is fucking crazy man. Marshall played like a fucking pussy. Martellus Bennett had one good catch after killing 2 previous drives. Forte played maybe his worst game since 2009 in every facet. The line was outclassed and confused at every turn. The playcalling early did not take into account the crazy beginning circumstances. Our punter chose last night to have the worst punt of his Bears career. Our middle linebacker and the defense played so badly that there was no chance to do anything of substance and you are talking about the quarterback.
            There were maybe 4 or 5 guys on the roster that came to play yesterday because they are not rich, not entitled or not aware that you have to fold like a pussy when things all go to hell. Stop with the Cutler shit today bro. This was a team ass kicking because it’s a team game. It was about momentum and they had it.

          • CanadaBear

            Cutler sucked last night Johnny but he had plenty of company. I’ve never seen a game get out of hand so quickly. It was certainly more on the D. We would have had to score on every possession after it got to 14-0 to even have a chance. The OL reminded me of the bad old days. A couple of the sacks were on Cutler for holding the ball too long but even that was marginal. Cutler was off target too much but he got no help from anyone on O. Sad night to say the least. I don’t see how McCown would have changed the outcome. He might have had better stats but hitting check downs when you’re down by 20+ points isn’t going to get it done. If we get into the playoffs and Cutler plays well, he’s coming back. If not, things will be very interesting in the off season.

          • McCown would’ve done better

            I’m in complete agreement that the whole team played like shit. I’m in complete agreement that this week will help determine exactly how the short and mid term future of the Bears quarterback situation plays out. The D is getting revamped of that there is no doubt. The offense is fine and will get even better next year.
            Now it’s just a matter of getting into the playoffs, getting a home playoff game and getting it done. The Eagles has womped and have been womped and even great teams get womped. We are not a great team but we will win this week and we will win a home playoff game…as long as it’s not against the Eagles.

    • Irish Sweetness

      But does anyone want to go into the playoffs with a defense that just gave up 54 points? You’re right though, Cutty talk has been on the table, and should remain on the table, util we find a home for him. We don’t need anymore time to figure out who he is … who he is is first round picks waiting to be cashed in. He hasn’t learned a thing since he got here. That defense is in a jock, and the only way it’s getting built back up is with draft picks and some cash for JJ Watt.

      The long haul is what counts, and by paying Cutler into a new contract we shoot ourselves in the knees for a second time. Now *that’s* insanity. Brady doesn’t have a big arm. Montana. Manning (the good one). Marino had a big arm. I’m tired hearing about Cutty’s arm strength, it’s one bonus on a long list of shit he doesn’t have.

      Say Goodbye : Cutty, Pep, Melton.

      Say Hello : JJ Watt, picks, picks, picks.

      • CanadaBear

        What’s with the JJ Watt talk? He’s still signed for another year in Texas. Why in the world would they trade him?

        • Irish Sweetness

          They need a QB, we give em Melton and Jay, they give us a pick. With Lovie at the helm. Likey?

          • CanadaBear

            We’ve got to sign both of them to trade ’em. Way too many moving parts for me.

      • SC Dave

        Don’t worry, we aren’t going to the playoffs.

    • SC Dave

      I agree. Cutler showed zero leadership.

      • johnnywad

        Can you quantify this in some way? “He did x and should have done y.”. “He didn’t do x when he should have.”. All I’ve seen this year is Cutler being a good teammate. Doing and saying the right things on and off the field. This ambiguous “He’s not a leader of men.” rings hollow with me.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    3rd to say THREE different HBs scored a TD against our D.

    Next week, start whatever 3 HBs the Pack find off the street on your FF team.

  • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

    i’m not even going to waste multiple paragraphs complaining about or dissecting what I saw in this game. This was a one sided beatdown from the scheme to the playcalling to the crowd to the worst linebacking and D line play i’ve seen in years to uninspired play by WR’s and TE’s and RB’s to shitty blocking to shittier tackling to the passing accuracy to the special teams and Wright/Conte. All the way around. This was a wakeup. I don’t know if going to the playoffs will mean anything but I do know that a Cutler led Bears team must defeat GB at home to at least make the dance. God this was awful.

    • SC Dave

      You forgot about the part with Cutler showing ZERO leadership. I’m with Irish, although no team in their right mind would give up a first round pick, let alone two, for Jay Cutler.

      • IBNO

        What the fuck leadership do you want? THEY WERE DOWN 21-0 IN THE FIRST QUARTER because the defense couldn’t stop anything (short fields, too) the Iggles threw at them. 45 points were scored by the Iggles offense. Cutler’s leadership had nothing to do with that.

      • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

        c’mon dude. What the fuck are you talking about leadership like it’s Brady leading a bunch of wide eyed rookies. If Marshall is going to fold and mail it in in the first quarter then he’s going to do it whether it’s Cutler or fucking Joe Montana throwing him the ball. If Martellus keeps dropping 25 yard seam routes he’s going to fucking drop them. If the smug and secure Forte is going to get tackled by everyone in every way and throw a half assed shoulder at blitzing linebackers then he’s going to fucking do it. Leadership? What the fuck are you talking about?

        • Irish Sweetness

          I don’t think anyone is laying this one on Cutler. He’s just on the table for general discussion, there’s not much else to talk about. We have no defense after all the injuries, and it’s just not fixable, even when they’re all healthy. not without picks, and Cutler is the only player worth a lot.

          If you could get what you paid for him – doesn’t it make sense to cash in and get a young guy in who looks after the ball? Fix that defense in one draft. McCown starts the season.

  • BerwynBomber

    Funny, I wondered if this was what Shorts was doing near the end of the Detroit game but the lousy TV commies said nothing so I figured he might have been barking orders to someone near their bench. Man, what a disaster that clown is. Btw, Kittens would be crazy not to take a long hard look at Lovie this off-season. A defensive-minded, conservative coach who also happens to be an adult would be a smart move on their part.

    http://www.freep.com/article/20131223/COL38/312230038/Jeff-Seidel-When-the-head-coach-loses-it-all-hope-is-lost

  • TheBigCheesy

    The Bears Still Suck!!! (Thank god)

    Packer Week! And it counts!

  • Irish Sweetness

    Neon made an interesting point on the box. If you pay a guy $100 Million, it’s so that he wins regardless of the defense he has. On the point of sitting Cutler next week, they can’t. If he wants his dollars then next week is the kind of game he has to win, because that’s what the big money is for.

    The Bears are still auditioning Cutler? Even after four years? Personally I’d like to see him benched, tagged and traded.

    No one’s saying McCown wins that game, not unless he can play some DT – but he would have tried, and we would have moved the ball. We made a big move a few years back – an expensive one that retarded building through the draft. We went all-in, but we didn’t win and we’re not going to win, with Jay Christopher Cutler t the helm. He’s not a winner. Never was. He can’t rise above the level of his defense, he’s proven it time and time again. I don’t think Emery is a fool, he’s the GM, he’s going to have no other position in mind as much as he’s thinking about QB.

    When handing over $100+ Million and thereby foregoing your two firsts or whatever in trade value … it’s got to be “Yes, this is our guy. No question. He’s the man.”

    You’ve all been watching him for years. Is he?

    • SC Dave

      NO ONE will give up two firsts for Cutler. I doubt anyone would give up one, actually. I certainly wouldn’t.

    • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

      Irish, predicting what McCown would have done yesterday is laughable. The fact that your post is not about the complete shit show is laughable. I’d like you to watch a replay of Bostic yesterday and tell me that the eagles didn’t get at least 150 on the ground as a result of him guessing the wrong hole 80% of the time. fucking guessing the hole.
      Conte and Wright brutal. Cohen, Bass, McClellin, Ozougwu, Paea, Peppers, getting worked on every fucking play. Jesus Christ. What are we talking about Cutler for right now?

      • CanadaBear

        The entire front seven not named Woot were hideous last night. Throw in the fact that Conte and Wright are the worst safety tandem in football and you know the rest. Everything that could go right for them did last night and vice versa for the Beloved.

        My biggest beef is with Trestman. The team has come out flat in numerous games this year. We were lucky to over come the slow starts a couple of times. Last night it seemed like the Beloved got together for a pot luck and at the last second had to suit up to play. It’s like they didn’t watch any film all week. Same mistakes on D, play after play after play. Fuck me, even I’m not that stupid to get sucked in over and over (yeah I’m looking at you CD, Bostic, Wright and Conte).

      • Irish Sweetness

        Because talking about the defense is depressing, We got gutted by injuries, and weren’t very good before them. Cutler wasn’t the issue yesterday. With a running game like they have, and a defense like we have, the game was over after a minute.

  • Maddbearfan

    So…what’s the thinking? Were the boys told to lay low and bring it to Soldiers Field and the home crowd for a more meaningful win against the Bears most hated rivalry? Or are the other teams we played and beat THAT bad as well as us?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Trestman said it himself in the presser. We were terrible. Everywhere. We got the shit kicked out of us left right and center, rectums pulled out like a clown’s pocket. Well, he said the first part. we sucked. I really don’t want to be in the playoffs with that defense, or our best quarterback riding the pine as the money man stares down his buddy on every single pass play. What’s the point?

  • Trac

    How did I know the Bears had no chance to rally last night? When my WBBM feed refused to work last night. It was an act of mercy as all I could do was check the game cast periodically and after the Hester fumble and iggles score, I knew it was over. Ca-put, stick a fork in it, done. Never at any point in the game was there hope.

    I’m sorry Johnny, Cutty will never be worth what we paid for him. We still haven’t received a return on our investment when we got him and Knox after giving up two 1st’s, a 3rd and Kyle Orton. Trading for Cutler was the beginning of the end for Lovie and it’s time for Emery to move on from this Bum. Signing Cutty to a long term deal is insanity and I don’t give a rip about his potential anymore. It’s obvious the guy will never be who we wanted him to be.

    • SC Dave

      Exactly. The man is simply NOT a leader, NOT a winner.

    • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

      I will simply say that your post was brutal. I don’t have the time to remind you of what kind of team Cutler was brought into. You have to do the research yourself because I don’t have the time to remind you of the fucking absolute joke of a GM that set us back years by drafting like shit, bringing in no offensive talent, no NFL caliber linemen until this year, etc. Jesus FUCKING Christ.

  • Trac

    Our receivers make McCown look good but Jay still struggles? Hmm.

    • bearsfantillend

      I agree, I have been starting to question Cutlers ability to anticipate his receivers, why does Marshall/Jeffery always seem to be standing still or coming back when Jay throws to them, I understand certain zone coverages dictate that the receivers sit down in the holes, but that is not the case on a lot of his throws. unfortunately i don’t have game footage to study this further, so all i can do is look at highlights on youtube, but it seemed McCown was a lot better hitting receivers on the move and in stride. There have been numerous plays throughout the year that if Cutler would have lead the receivers a little bit it would have been easy TDs.

      • Irish Sweetness

        All I remember is McCown being able to hit his passes. They weren’t all dump-offs either – and after watching Philly, there’s nothing wrong with dumping it off. He made some beauties too. They just moved the ball, he made smart reads, they moved the chains. He didn’t stare down Brandon, but he got the best out of ALL his receivers. They wanted to double on Brandon, fine. Make Alshon the man. Or Matt. Whoever. Can anyone truly say we weren’t better under Josh?

    • johnnywad

      Jay sucked last night but to suggest McCown would have had different results is to ignore what we all saw. A complete team failure. Name me a Bear that played well last night. How many blitzes did Forte miss? All of them. Briggs made me wish Green had been playing. I’m embarrassed to say that out loud but there it is. D line? Nope. I’m not sure any team could actually win a playoff game with that pair of safeties back there. Is this all on Trestman? Maybe. They damn sure weren’t ready to play. That was a complete collapse in all three phases. To say anything regarding McCown is just asinine. McCown played 7 or 8 minutes against their third strong D. How did he look to you? If Emery moves on from Cutler, fine. He better have a damn good plan in place if he does so. Because if not, it’s back to Grossman, Hanie, Orton, Hutchinson, Burris, Krenzel, Quinn, blah, blah , blah.

      • Trac

        CUTLER IS NOT WORTH THE MONEY! He’s like a gambler that can’t stop cashing his checks at the casinos. He doubles down when he should hold. I’ve been a fan for 30 plus years. He’s fools gold bro!

        • johnnywad

          What money? He has no deal Trac.

          • Trac

            You have a point. He’s not with more than he’s paid now.

          • johnnywad

            Emery is pretty sharp in my estimation. Remember all the hand wringing prior to signing Forte? It all worked out. This will be no different. I hope.

          • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

            forte played like a fucking girl last night.

          • CanadaBear

            He was just part of the girls club last night. Certainly his worst game this year and probably in the last 3-4 years.

          • Irish Sweetness

            This is my hope – Emery has done everything right so far, so I expect he will do the right thing, whatever that thing is. Trading Cutler after he’s tagged is no risk. Your future drafted QB will have a risk associated, but Josh isn’t much of a risk to play for you in the meantime as the guy that grooms him. Giving him a big new contract is large risk, weighting in his history and how that restricts signings at other positions moving forward.

          • johnnywad

            Except that Josh isn’t a starter. He was 3-2 and couldn’t put more than 20 on the board, including overtime, against the Vikings. They had given up more points than any team in the NFL at that point, including the Bears. Then he has a great game against the Cowboys, the worst passing D in the NFL and everybody loses their mind. The Bears were the 4th ranks offense in the league heading into Sunday while using two quarterbacks. The Bears finally have a real offense after decades of futility despite sucking last night. Why the hell would anybody change that?

          • Irish Sweetness

            He’s saying he’s not worth the 120 million or whatever his agent will be after. And at this point, he’s not. The Bridgewater kid can ride the bench behind McCown next season. We draft a DE and two DTs in the first and second rounds(assuming a QB pick). How about them apples? Then the safeties don’t matter so much and they can look better.

          • johnnywad

            No thanks. We need at LEAST 7 defensive starters. The quarterbacks we have now will be here next year. Emery better be all defense for the next 5 months. And maybe a center. Leave the rest of the offense alone. Its already set to be one of the best next year.

          • McCown would’ve done better

            Irish, Bridgewater is probably not even coming out of college.

      • Forte didn’t miss blitz pick-ups. He was popping guys coming through the holes. He just didn’t hold them up long enough. He gave Jay an extra second, but Jay was hoping for an extra 3-4.

        • CanadaBear

          He hit them but didn’t slow them down at all. Looked like he was half-assing it to me. AND I’m one of Forte’s biggest supporters.

    • big difference i see is on the long balls. McCown throws arc’s because that’s the only way he can get it down the field. But that also gives our big boys a chance to use their big bodies. Cutler fires lasers 40 yards downfield because he can. But that doesn’t give our WR’s a chance to play to their skills.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Yup, Josh responded to the receiver’s routes, he connected with them. Jay seems to expect receivers to respond to his throws.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Precisely. 13 TDs and 1 INT can’t be explained away in exchange for Jay’s arm. One guy is going to cost us $100M+ and the other guy is a better play? That’s fucked up.

  • Viva

    We shit the bed.
    And got caught sniffing the sheets.

    • CanadaBear

      EEK!

    • IBNO

      More like “got caught LICKING the sheets”

  • CanadaBear

    Wow, what a game! Podlesh does his usual. When you most need a good kick, he will almost certainly not deliver it. Devin did the unusual. That was his first fumble for a turnover in over 4 years. At that point it was grim. I officially gave up after we made it 33-11 and they marched right down and scored again. TV was off after that. Cutler sucked, no doubt about it. So did the entire team and coaching staff. What the fuck did they do in practice all week? It was groundhog day on every play. Every time CD could be sucked in, he was. Every time Bostic could over run a play, he did. Pep didn’t show up. Woot at least came to play. Everyone else, not so much. Wright and Conte get worse every game. Although when the front seven do absolutely nothing it makes it fairly difficult. If Lovie was still here everyone would blame him for the team not being prepared. Trestman seems to get a pass. Not sure why. We’ve taken some frightening losses this year where the team was unprepared and thoroughly outplayed but as long as the O looks better Trest gets a pass. He shouldn’t this time.

    Don’t get calling out Cutler and no one else. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not all in on Cutler but there were a million reasons why we lost this game and Cutler was only one of them. One of the worst losses in my lifetime. Esp considering what was on the line. Fuck Me!

    • IBNO

      Fucking schlubs sitting in for Mike and Mike said it was “Cutler’s lack of leadership” when the Bears went down 21-0 that did the Bears in.

      Umm… 50 something points? Was Cutler “leading” the defense?

      Cutler had a crap game, yes. But that wasn’t the story of this game. And I’m already sick to death of people bagging on Cutler. Putting last night on him is just plain stupid.

      • let’s be honest – he could’ve done a better job holding contain on the edge on that long Brown td run.

  • MB30SD

    The o, when its back isn’t up against a wall, is insane… the reality is that the other 2 units are dogshit.

    I personally don’t think that the right coaches are in place on d or specials. They need to be replaced with A+ quality this off season. Period. Obviously the d needs to be totally rebuilt.

    I think this game as a referendum for cuttler is actually a good thing. Nfnc champs and a spot in the playoffs on the line… if cuttler shits the bed again it’s at least another data point in phill’s algorithm.

    With $100M on the line and the opty cost of a truly MASSIVE draft, your franchise qb HAS to show up HUGE in games like last night and especially next week. If he doesn’t, what you have is tony romo.

    • Trac

      Good QB’s are consistently good. Cutty is consistently unreliable more than consistently reliable. I don’t need to see anymore. If the D and special teams are good then Cutty can be an asset, if not, Cutty seems to fold under the pressure. Not saying he’s bad, just that he’s not worth the investment.

      • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

        brutal.

      • McCown would’ve done better

        Trac, name which quarterbacks are good because they have good players, coaching and continuity and those that are good because they are just good on their own and don’t need anyone else.
        Note: if you name any past or future hall of famers you must also then list the hall of fame/perennial pro bowlers that they had the luxury of playing with.

  • Viva

    I’m all in on Cutler. He is the best QB we’ve ever had. He needs to beat the Packers on every possession next week. (Philly punted the ball 2 times last night, we pooched the ball 6 times). Every possession matters. The Packers D is as predictable as it has always been, the difference is that we more favorable mismatches on the field then they do.

    • Viva

      Hands down the best QB we have ever had, and we want to run him out of town for a guy who lost to the Rams and Vikings three weeks ago. I do not get it.

      • gpldan

        I didn’t say run him out. I said start McCown against the Pack because the team quit on Cutler.

        • Viva

          I think starting McCown is tantamount to running Cutler out of town.

        • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

          the team didn’t quit on Cutler god damnit, they fucking just quit.

          • gpldan

            The O, with him at the helm, on the first THREE possessions, went 3 and out.

            Yes, Podlesh shit the bed. Yes, Hester pissed any possible momentum away and needs to retire.

            But Cutler and the O came out flat, came out like they didn’t have a clue. And, it’s my personal opinion Waffle – and I have stuck by Cutler longer than anyone around here – that he has simply lost that team. I don’t know if it’s the perpetual jerkface thing, or what’s going on the locker room, but there is something going on there that the team does not believe in the guy anymore.

            We lose that Browns game if we face anybody but Jason fucking Christmas Campbell. And here, nobody came on the field on O with any sense of win at all.

            A HC needs to play the season. And this season has developed with McCown and the whole Gannon thing and I say we ride that, team seems to WANT IT for the guy. It’s a competitive EDGE and you PLAY IT.

            But – hey – you don’t need to tell me to STFU. You are gonna get your way. Cutler will get the start against the Packers on Sunday afternoon. And what happens, if he’s your guy like you say he is, then what happens happens and you assess that and you don’t lay it on the O that has ZERO injuries and has shown it can gel. You have ONE GUY who, if you have ANYTHING WITH THIS GUY AT ALL, this is his stage. Is he a winner or does he NOT CARE?

            Let’s find the fuck out.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I think everybody on the offense not named Brandon Marshall is kinda pissed that MCCown got the boot. I’m tired of hearing Cutler in pressers churning out “…uhhh y’know I gotta play better …..”

            We know that Jay, we’ve been thinking the same thing for the last four years.

          • McCown would’ve done better

            I don’t want to get my way I just want them to keep their priorities in line. We’re so fucked in the head when it comes to QB and Offense because we’ve never had it. We had Walter and a couple years where we scored a bit and had some nice WR play but never consistent offensive success.
            Jay and Josh are a solid tandem in this offense. It’s the first year of the offense and the results have been very pleasing. With that being said the thing that makes me fucking crazy is when people reduce a body of work within the team construct down to “he’s not a winner, not a leader”, etc. It makes no sense to compare Jay in 2009 or 2010 or 2011 or 2012 to the Jay in this system with these weapons and a coherent scheme and lineplay. i’m sick of the fucking comparisons because we’re comparing theories and what if’s and unknowns.
            Let’s just see what happens Sunday. I don’t want Cutler simply because he’s Cutler. I want Cutler because I see this offense blossoming further with him in it while the sins of Angelo and drafts past are fixed by Emery….hopefully.
            It all plays out Sunday. 3:35pm. Lakefront. War.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Best at what ? Winning percentage? Jim McMahon is #5 all-time at that. Superbowls? Cutler’s down one in that department. Comebacks? Never saw anyone like Jimmy for the comebacks when the defense called it in. Leadership? No question who wins that category. Can’t have Jay as our best ever QB, no.

  • roglesby

    My only thought is that Cutler is going to want 100+ million… Those QBs will at least help keep drives alive. Jay didn’t do that. And I would love to hear someone tell me the QB saw last night is really a 17+ million a year guy.

    • MB30SD

      In 3…..2…..1…..

    • McCown would’ve done better

      I saw some shit throws from Cutler to kill drives. I saw Marshall and Bennett kill drives with 25 yard drops. I saw Forte get tackled with one arm to kill drives. I saw rookie lineman getting worked to give up sacks to kill drives.
      Jay will not want 100 Million as he has stated in the past as he knows that would kill any chance of building the Bears. I think it will play out clearly over the next week and into the playoffs. Let’s wait and see what happens.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I saw one. McCown on the sidelines. He would be worth that for a season, not that you’d need to pay it.

      • McCown would’ve done better

        did you just honestly say that McCown is worth 17 FUCKING MILLION DOLLARS? Irish, that did it, I simply refuse to respond to any more of your posts. I can’t read them anymore. That did it.

  • Bender McLugh

    anyone pissed at Forte for blowing three critical blitz pickups in the first quarter? Forte makes that block every other week…..not sure what happened to him on those plays.

    Bring on the cheese, the division is ours.

    • IBNO

      Yeah. Fucking Collinsworth saying that Forte isn’t a good blocker… normally, he is excellent at blitz pickup. Last night, he was shit.

      • MB30SD

        Collinsworth is an annoying jackass. he looks like a chicken.

        • gpldan

          I say Collinsworth new nickname is Foghorn Dickhorn.

    • he made the pick-ups. he just didn’t make follow-up blocks. he gave jay an extra second on those blitzes. unfortunately, jay needed an extra 4 seconds.

    • McCown would’ve done better

      I was pretty pissed. Forte didn’t bring his A game but damn he brought his A fashion post game. That suit was pimp.

  • Viva

    FUCK THE PACK!

  • MB30SD

    Look guys… let’s see what he does against the packers this week. If he blows them off the fucking field all this talk will quiet.

    If he just blows it’s another data point for phill to use in his final decision. I trust him to make the right call with all the facts before him at the end of our season.

    I’ll just echo one point made below… with this…. “defense” do we really want to go to the playoffs? Last night was embarrassing. .. can you imagine what a game against seattle in Seattle would look like. Yikes.

    Yes it was more philosophic… we all want to go.

    • Oh ye of little faith. Briggs just needs to get his wheels under him. Trestman knew that and commanded his offense to be as inept as possible so the defense could get more reps.

      He sacrificed the Philly game, knowing full well we’re going to blow the Packers out of the water with a back-in-game-shape Briggsy.

  • Shady

    So it turns out last night WASN’T a bad dream, the Bears ACTUALLY fell flat on their faces in Philly.

    This team has no business making the playoffs, but if it’s between us and da cheese, let’s shred some fuxking cheddar.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    The defensive side of the ball was absolutely garbage last night. And when you give a blitz-happy team like the Eagles the luxury of teeing off on your QB because every damn play call HAS to be vertical, well, yeah, your offense is going to get shittier and shittier the rest of the game. This whole “start McCown” bullshit is absurd. How about “play some fucking defense”?

    • what – you don’t think McCown would’ve sealed the edge and kept McCoy/Foles honest?

  • Viva

    We are in the playoffs to be in the playoffs, and we can beat the Packers.

    • Viva

      Fuck the Packers.

    • Irish Sweetness

      But we can’t beat anybody else, Viva …..

      • McCown would’ve done better

        Irish, you simply can’t state that as a universal truth. Anything can happen. Steve Smith sprained his fucking knee yesterday. Panthers fucked. We got the injury bug and it nearly fucked the season before it started. Let’s let it ride out.

  • Sactowns#1

    http://voices.suntimes.com/sports/henry-melton-arrested-in-grapevine-texas/
    Melton looks like he took a whooping but nothing like the Bears took last night.

    • Shady

      Hello new avitar.

      • gpldan

        There is a fucking metaphor if ever there was one.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Dolph! Where’s do you go?
        Is Brigitte NIelsen back? Does she look like Joan Rivers now?

  • AlbertInTucson

    I understand the NTSB has dispatched a team to investigate the wreckage from, last night.

  • McCown would’ve done better

    It’s Packer week. It’s time for the WHOLE FUCKING TEAM to man up. To a man last night they were fucking embarrassed. To focus on Cutler is comical. If the TEAM can’t beat the Packer TEAM on Sunday then the TEAM needs to be blown up on D and re-assembled. The quarterback situation will work itself out The rest of the O will get better and better in year 2 and 3 of the revamping.
    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, i’ll see you whiny, shortsighted pussies after we womp on GreenBay.
    Fuck you Cheese the Bears and our leaderless bum of a quarterback offense and Landon Cohen and David Bass led defense are going to bring the pain!

    • gpldan

      Cutler shits the bed in Chicago in front of the screaming faithful and I am coming in here all offseason with a motherfucking frat paddle and purple silk hoodie Doug Niedermeyer style and you WILL be Kevin Bacon and say “Thank you sir may I have another!”

      You rode this guy’s jock all season. He has a 100% healthy O that has showed it can be dominant when it plays to. Don’t tell me this is a different Packers club than the one we faced with Seneca Wallace. Eddie Lacy may be hurt, they may have no run game.

      We lose this game, and you can jock Cutler all offseason on the blog because I’m officially sick of this club.

      • CanadaBear

        If we lose next week you’re already blaming Cutler. That strikes me as a little odd.

        • gpldan

          I’ll base it on how many points the Pack scores. If we lose 54-53, then no.

          But he comes out like that Eagles game, with his wide open stance, and that sidearm shit and wide throws followed up by jerkface – then yeah. Put a god damn leader in there, I simply cannot tolerate having the Pack steal the division like this again. Can’t do it, can’t play with it.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Yup. 27 years since the last super-bowl worthy team? This is bullshit. We will hand the Packers the NFCN title in Soldier field next week like we handed them the NFC that year and it makes me fucking sick.

            Come on Emery, hit this one out of the park for us.

          • McCown would’ve done better

            Take that post down with that avatar you huge fucking pussy. Show some courage.

      • McCown would’ve done better

        I don’t jock Cutty GP, I just don’t use the carnival of 2009 through 2012 as the litmus test. Let’s just watch this thing play out. Since we’ve given up 40+ 4 times this year and Lovie had that happen in 9 years we won’t really be able to base it on the result. Our defense and specials are brutal and since a football game doesn’t happen in a vacuum those other phases do actually affect the team as a whole. You know this.
        I don’t see us losing unless the Bears pull a 2012 Seahawks game where QB has 119 rating and Bears lose because of D. If Cutty shits the bed then Emery will add that into his negotiations. Either way it will play out.

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    • gpldan

      Thanks Al. The blog needed a Shave right about now.

  • Toph

    This was a team loss — from the HC down to the freaking water boy.

  • McCown would’ve done better

    not to mention anything else besides Cutler being the biggest bum quarterback the Bears have ever put on the field but….
    Do you guys see any way that Shea McClellin makes this fucking team next year? I just don’t think Emery is that stubborn. The tape don’t lie.

    • CanadaBear

      If we go to a 3-4 D next year CD sticks. If we stay with the 4-3 and he sticks, PE is just as stubborn and egotistical as JA.

      • MB30SD

        you and I are at it again canada. Hahaha…

        Here’s my deal (again)… if he hits this offseason out of the park like last year’s and our D is rebuilt and solid next year, we have our answer about him (and I’ll maintain that my hypothesis about his first draft was at least partly right).

        If he picks up a bunch of lemons, he’s just a man and you will be right.

  • BerwynBomber

    Arkush said if his source is to be trusted Rodgers will NOT play this coming weekend. Claims Rodgers’ break was/is worse than GB has let on and that Briggs took nine weeks with the same injury. So who knows. Also said he thought Briggs looked to be about 15 lbs overweight last night. Apparently Briggs is known to let himself go when not on the field. Didn’t mean it as necessarily a slam. Just the way the guy is wired.

    • McCown would’ve done better

      lol, I knew he looked a little rotund in the butt and mid section. That was a tough game to come back to. he was tested on every play and they wore him out. Bostic and Greene would be wise to watch a tape of Briggs to learn how to be pro linebackers though.

  • Trac

    I don’t think Cutler is smart enough to be a SB caliber QB. No way does Cutty deserve the blame for the lopsided loss so don’t misinterpret my comments. I just am sick of sugar coating his results. I don’t think the guy makes good decisions on the field. At least not good enough to keep opposing defenses off balance.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Packers at Bears has been “flexed” from a 1pm EST to a 4:25 EST kickoff as have Bill @ Pats and Bucs @ Saints.

    Eagles at Cowboys has been “flexed” to the NBC Sunday Night game.

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