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NFL Trade Deadline Tuesday: Open Debate

| October 29th, 2013

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Nothing ever happens at the NFL trade deadline but that doesn’t mean things SHOULDN’T happen. If the Giants aren’t planning to re-sign Hakeem Nicks, why wouldn’t they get what they can now? Same for the Vikings and Jared Allen. Tony Gonzalez is a good man and all but why does he want to finish his career on a dog team in Atlanta when Kansas City is desperate for a tight end?

So here is today’s debate topic. You’re Phil Emery and you can make one trade, one REALISTIC trade, what deal do you make? I will take the best answer from the comments and put it in the game preview later in the week.

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  • Trac

    My first thought is to try and sweeten the pot by making a player trade to a team that needs help as well. I’m going to look at players on our roster that might give me a starting point.

  • gpldan

    Chicken Dinner to a 3-4 team for a 3rd rounder.

    Time to count our chickens after they hatched
    Time to pluck that bird
    He’s a good egg in the wrong coop
    He’s in the conservatory with a candlestick and Colonel Sanders
    Birds of a feather belong on the Seahawks
    He’d be a Steel for the Steelers

    • Trac

      Chicken dinner has very little trade value. I doubt he’s shown anything that anybody would be interested in. In my book, he represents a player that in all likely hood shouldn’t have been drafted until the 3rd round. In theory, your asking price of a 3rd rounder is probably a fair value but I just don’t see that happening.

      • gpldan

        He’s shown enough as a football player to make the case he can play ILB in a 3-4 system. The reason it won’t happen is that the chicken egg will be all over Phil’s face. It would be an ignominious admission of idiocy. I’d respect him for doing it, though. It would take a real stand up GM to say “I fucked up on this” and get value for the mistake.

        • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

          Wouldn’t it be awesome if E said, “Lovie drafted him. That’s one of many reasons I terminated him.” That will never happen, even if it were true.

          I guess the now extinct ProFootballWeekly (tear) got it right when they graded him in the 3rd-4rth.

          Anyone notice that when Emery passed Jones, Billichick traded up almost immediately and drafted him? Thank god for that. Only outcome worse than passing Chandler Jones is passing him up only so that he could end up on the Pack.

          PFW also took a lot of flack for essentially calling Cam Newton weak-minded. If he were an astronaut , he’d have the wrong stuff.

          That book is still to be determined.

          • SC Dave

            As is the CD book. Wasn’t it just on this blog recently talking about AJ Hawk looking studly after all these years? If CD is going to get there, I hope it does not take that long, but if he’s good enough to start, then keep him.

            Reminds me of all the “hate” here for Hillenmeyer because he could not make up for Urlacher. Who the hell could? Hunter started for our team for seven years or so as an outside linebacker, and was solid on specials. If CD could end up that good, I would say he was worth a first round pick. If you look at all first round draft picks, I would guess a seven year starter is better than average.

            Not that CD is yet, of course.

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            I hope the Bears don’t have to wait like 7 years for Chicken DInner to live up to his draft status, that’s for sure. Emery had no qualms about releasing his other picks.

            CD just lacks the explosion of a Freeney. If you’re that small at DE, you got to explode off the line like your ass is on fire, and I don’t see that initial get off from CD. That’s why I think he’d be a better LB. He’s got decent long speed and range, but not elite level burst which is what makes for a good 4-3 end.

            Unless CD shows some dramatic improvement, I just don’t see him living up to his billing.

  • Trac

    I think that a low level trade is probably the only kind of movement we’ll see, if any. For instance, a DT like Colin Cole of the Panthers who’s long in the tooth but good enough for the Panthers to keep him around for a player like Sherrick McManis that is 3rd on our CB depth chart. Maybe there’s a team out there that wants to save some cap space for next year but I just don’t see many viable possibilities.

    • NewBearInTown

      That trade makes a lot of sense.

      Another possibility would be Earl Bennett to Indy in exchange for Fili Moala (DT). Both players would get more snaps after that trade, Earl gets to go to a contender without having to uproot his family as a thank you for his hard work. Value is probably about equal.

      Moala has some durability concerns, but we’re only looking for 9 games. He’s not ideal as a 3-tech so he’s not going to greatly increase QB pressure, but it would give us some more size in the ravaged DT rotation. Also might help the linebackers focus more on pass protection.

      Earl has been great for us, but we’re just not getting him on the field much. Unicorn, Forte and Marshall give us enough high percentage options on third down, and the growth of Jeffery means our two starters are pretty much set.

      In football terms, I’d say this is a good deal. And I think if either player was going to get traded, this would be a good deal for them.

      • Trac

        Earl definitely has value. Not sure if it would be a fair trade though.

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

        I think a low level deal for a dlinemen would make sense, but we’re so cap strapped, not sure if that even gets done. I think we stay pat. We’re still very much in the playoff hunt, so no firesale, and not enough cap or picks to trade for a big name.

        That’s why I think the trade deadline should be moved back 2 weeks.

      • SC Dave

        I could see something like that, though I’d hate it. Especially watching Earl catch 80 balls a year for Andrew Luck instead of us. But at least they’re in the AFC.

  • gpldan
    • MB30SD

      hahahahaha.

      That would be such a great disco tribute band name

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

        I proposed “ThunderCunt” and “Anal Holocaust” in the last thread.

  • Shady

    Just found out I’ll be going up to Green Bay next week to attend the game. Very excite.

    • Cormonster

      Ever been to Lambeau? The parking lot can be pretty crazy. It’s like a college game atmosphere.

    • gpldan
      • gpldan

        THere’s one of ‘dem Massage-a-Twah’s right there for ya, Shady.

        As the legend Gene once said, “Living in Sin at the Holiday Inn”

    • Big Mike

      If the Bears win, we might need to pitch in and send you on the road regularly. In my book the Bears have next to zero chance of beating the Packers.

  • bearsfantillend

    trade Conte and Write for a paper clip, some belly button lint, a marble, and the December 1987 issue of Playboy. i know the asking price is a little high but we don’t need a great marble any crappy marble will do.

  • Trac

    If Phil makes a move, it will be for an impact player. The more I think about it, I’m not sure Emery will be into any luke warm deals. Unfortunately I don’t think this conversation is worth having because I just don’t see the Bears making a trade. I think if anything, Emery may entertain a trade for more picks next year.

  • Trac

    Players I’d trade for picks.

    Hester, Bennett, Wright. Minimum value guys because of UFA. Earl is probably the one that might draw attention.

    • gpldan

      Chicken Dinner was unrealistic, but a 30 year old punt returner who has quit in his system is plausible?

      • Trac

        Hey, I’m just throwing around idea’s. Hester probably has more value for a draft pick next year. Let’s face it, this is all conjecture.

    • Waffle

      Trading your starting safety in the middle of the season for the opportunity to pick a college kid who has a 10 percent chance of making the team more than 2yrs in a row? dude.

      • Trac

        Waffle. He gone next year. I guarantee.

  • MB30SD

    the ONLY trades I want phil to make right now are with players who we don’t use/have lost value/we think are mediocre but others might not (conte/write/hester?/etc…)… for reasonably high picks next year.

    Absolutely zero need to lose players/picks to try and put a band-aid on a severed limb.

  • Trac
  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)
  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    Boy. Too bad Pepp sucks now. Allen might be traded away to 9ers, Hawks or Broncs. No one’s knocking on Emery’s door for Pepp.

  • gpldan
  • gpldan

    It sounds like Schiano’s problem is simply that he is a gigantic d-bag

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9890769/tampa-bay-buccaneers-coach-greg-schiano-lost-team-fractured-franchise

  • MB30SD
    • Shady

      Glad to know we spent over 30 billion on a warship to chase down Somali pirates in a 500 dollar dingy.

      • Waffle

        i’m guessing that since it has stealth tech and carries cruise and sea sparrow missiles (which can shoot down incoming missiles and planes) and is fast as balls we spent over 30 Billion on a warship that can fight against China if need be.

        • Waffle

          or Somali piraes in 500 dollar dingys. 🙂

          • Waffle

            or fucking learn to spell waffle.

          • MB30SD

            edit… button.

        • Waffle

          I don’t think Al Shahab has global satellite capability yet but if they did then they’d be pissed because our Destroyer would look like a dingy.

      • MB30SD

        Hahahaha… I never got that main. Just give ships a .50 cal and let em sink those fuckers. Shocks me how these massive ships backed by all the money get overrun by skinnies in dingies. (see how I did that?)

      • SC Dave

        No shit. Corporate welfare at its most egregious. Wanna go for the over-under on the cost of the fucking shells for that fancy new cannon?

        I say $64,207 PER FUCKING SHOT.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Trade talk is all moot, now.

    • SC Dave

      What a wet blanket…

      • AlbertInTucson

        Don’t shoot the messenger. I didn’t set the deadline.

  • gpldan

    Somali Radar for night Ops at sea:

    1. Open compass
    2. Fire your AK in each of cardinal direction
    3. listen for ricochet
    4. act accordingly

  • Viva

    Any trade I would consider, would require Al Davis on the opposite side of the deal; hence, no deals for me.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Allen seemed to attract the most interest but , apparently, at age 31 with 4.5 sacks this year.couldn’t garner as much as a #3 pick.

    Personally, Blogfather, I thought the Tony Gonzalez back to KC was a great call. He gets gets “back in the hunt”, so to speak, and can then retire with his original team.

    With Julio Jones gone and Roddy White hobbled, teams are now just beating up on Gonzalez.

  • Sactowns#1

    Looks like no big news on the trade front gents. One good thng about having all of these injuries is it gives some guys time to shine. If someone like Green shows real promise he can be trade bait in the off season.

    • MB30SD

      oooooor maybe a young upstart franchise Sam to take over the reigns for briggsy.

      Common maings, gotta start building from the inside.

    • Waffle

      If Greene shows real promise we’re fucking set at LB because we got him in the 4th rd for an old VHS porn video and an expired McDonalds Gift Certificate.

  • MB30SD
  • Shady

    BULCE

  • MB30SD

    my god this is terrifying. He should never ever play another down of football again… ever.

    http://mmqb.si.com/2013/10/29/jermichael-finley-packers-injury-first-person/?sct=hp_t1t_a2&eref=sihp

    • MB30SD

      thaaaat might help though: “I currently have a $10 million insurance policy in place. If this injury prevents me from ever playing football again, I will be able to collect on $10 million tax-free.”

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

        What a coincidence. I have a $10M insurance policy on my weiner.

        • MB30SD

          Did you just say, “wiener”?!?

    • AlbertInTucson

      I don’t even want to IMAGINE being in a situation like that.

  • MB30SD
    • Big Mike

      As much as I love the game, after playing youth football at a pretty high level and starting on an undefeated Freshman team, when my son asked me if he could quit playing football and focus on Lacrosse and Basketball, I was a bit relieved.

    • Scharfinator

      Seems like we picked up the right South Carolina receiver.

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