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Needing Inches on 4th Down, Bears Gained Hope for 2013 Season

| November 6th, 2013

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The Bears went for it.

With 7:50 remaining in the game and the Bears leading by four points, Marc Trestman gambled on 4th and inches. He gambled on his offensive line. He gambled on his All-Pro tailback. He gambled that his offense – the best unit of his football team – would have a better chance to finish off the rival Green Bay Packers than his leaky defense and inconsistent specials. He called timeout. He took a breath. Then he gambled.

Grantland’s Bill Barnwell subsequently Tweeted:

Think teams in that situation — fourth-and-short, their side of the field, fourth quarter, narrow lead — have GFI twice in 14 years.

The drive that followed was a thing of beauty; a masterwork that belongs beside Hopper’s Nighthawks at the Art of Institute of Chicago. 18 plays. 80 yards. 8:58 stripped from the fading clock. 3 points to ensure Seneca Wallace needed to put the ball in the end zone to send the contest to overtime. A masterwork. But none of it happens without the gamble; without the guts.

The play.

The steps.

Step One: Roberto Garza is being asked to pull to the outside and secure the edge. (In this case that will involve sealing off Morgan Burnett.) This is an incredibly bold call for the situation and Jon Gruden did a brilliant job pointing that out.

Step Two: Tony Fiammetta, it would seem, is responsible to cover for the pulling Garza. It would be expected for a linebacker to crash the A gap on fourth-and-inches and A.J. Hawk does just that. Fiammetta, again it would seem, is responsible for preventing that linebacker from blowing the play up.

Note: I write the words “it would seem” because none of us truly know the assignment here and I won’t pretend to understand the complexities of Marc Trestman’s offense.

Step Three: Fiammetta is late to make the block and Hawk almost blows the play up in the backfield. Forte delivers a text book stiff arm to shake him loose. (Fiammetta not giving up on the block also made the tackle difficult for Hawk.)

Step Four: Garza is slow to get outside but gets JUST ENOUGH on Morgan Burnett to provide Forte a gap.

Step Five: First Down!

The pictures.

The PlayClick the image to expand.

The summary.

We’ve discussed for a long time the transition of the Chicago Bears from a defensive to an offensive football team. With this call, with this play, the transition now has a tangible moment of metamorphosis. Because no Bears coach over the last fifty years would have made this call. No Bears coach over the last fifty years would not have trusted his defense to hold a four-point lead over Seneca Wallace.

This Bears coach does. This Bears team should. Take notice.

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  • i’ll be the first to thank forte for reminding hawk that he’s a bigger first round bust than chicken dinner.

    • johnnywad

      How do you feel about the call after watching it again
      E? I’m thinking really nice job on Forte’s part after seeing it again. I still love the call. If Fiametta set the initial block properly, this things comes off perfectly. I think the call was a good one and Fiametta’s B-/C+ block nearly ruined it.

      • MB30SD

        cluuuuuuuuuuuuuuutts!!!!!!!

        *sniff*

      • i stand by my guns. it was the ballsy call to go for it on 4th and inches, but it was the right call. our D is a sieve and our specials are the wrong kind of special.

        that being said, i don’t think trestman made a great play call as you said last thread. the play worked because forte broke the tackle. hawk had the play blown up. all he had to do was perform the most fundamental act of defensive football – tackle the ball carrier when you have both arms on him.

        i’m not complaining that he went for it. i’m not complaining that forte had to break a tackle to make it happen. i just don’t think this was as much a case of trestman geniusry as it was forte bad-assery.

        • Bearssssss

          I would argue that there’s no better way to make someone like Forte realize their full bad-ass potential than to hand them the ball and your trust with the game on the line. That kind of trust makes the coach and makes the team. Bear down!

    • MB30SD

      I don’t get the Hawk hate Ev. (I mean, besides the fact that he’s a filthy packer)

      He’s the leading tackler on the team this year, and in the games I’ve watched (2 so far), he’s been an animal. He’s in on almost every play. Reminds me a lot of sean lee over in dallas.

      Dude’s been a badass this year and I’d take him over any of our current guys in a heartbeat.

      …Ok, I feel all dirty now. Have to go re-shower. yuck.

      • gpldan

        I agree with you, he’s a solid guy in that system. I’d swap Greene for him.

        • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

          It only took 7 years for Hawk to play. Give Greene 7 years.

      • confession time. i know nothing about hawk’s stats or role in the system. i just know he was a 5th overall pick who was underperforming for the first chunk of his career, and he missed a tackle that could’ve helped his team win the game.

      • Cormonster

        I watch about half the Packer games every year. Hawk has sucked his entire career except during their SB run and the 1st half of this year. Most Packer friends who are critical observers can’t stand him. He always made a lot of tackle, but usually 7-10 yards down field and he gets burned in coverage all the time.

        • MB30SD

          hmmmm… haven’t watched too closely, cause you know, he’s on the fucking packers… but he seems to be everywhere this year.

          Notwithstanding, he’s a massive meathead dbag: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d82a2c871/A-J-Hawk-pushes-friend-into-lake

          • Cormonster

            I watch the Fudge so much because I get every game and root against them. I actually know more about the Packers than their average fan. Hawk dropped about 10 lbs this year and I think that has helped him play better. This is the 1st year I remember him playing all the snaps, maybe due to injuries. In the past, he was always taken out in obvious passing downs.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        His pass coverage seems very poor. He seemed to just forget about Forte when he had that 30+ yards pass.

      • Thompson Way

        I am a Bears fan living in Green Bay and take it from me, Hawk has underperformed every year, until this year. And, that and he is god awful ugly.

  • JBear

    Honestly, I nearly had a heart attack on that play. I thought for sure Forte was getting a loss on the play. The stiff arm + solid block saved the day!

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    If the call signifies the “transition of the Chicago Bears from a defensive to an offensive football team” than the call is a moronic call. I think the call should be seen as prof of personality and leadership. Trestman is a numbers guy and that was a call that came from his balls. So he is not one-dimensional and understands football is also an emotional battle that you have to win so that you can win the war. But that has to be a modus operandi in every moving part, not just the offense. Can’t be the leader for the offense and leave the others on their own… which I think kind of happened with the D this year.

    • DaBearsBlog

      It’s what happens with EVERY offensive head coach in the sport. Payton, McCarthy both leave the defense in the hands of a defensive coordinator who runs that show entirely. Andy Reid doesn’t know a thing about defensive football.

      The transitional element of the call is understanding the offense is a better bet to put the game away than the defense – a decision that would not have been made a single time in the last 50 years.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Yes, because the defense is on their heels at the moment. What I’m saying is that I hope Emery/Trestman have a plan on how to build a Bears defense. And then he will make gutsy calls with them also. That’s what I’m saying ‘the call means that he will make gutsy calls if he trust his units’. A huge positive. If you put it like ‘he will be more inclined to trust his offense than his defense’ that’s a huge negative. PS: My only criticism of Trestman is the Mel Tucker choice. And if you look at Payton, McCarthy and Andy Reid you see them going for D coordinators with powerful personalities…true leaders of their units with aggresive ‘in your face’ schemes and styles. PS2: I’m not saying that however declares that “the call signifies the transition of the Chicago Bears from a defensive to an offensive football team” makes a moronic statement. I name the call as moronic, if it represents another element on the pattern of ‘bad defense’, ‘no defensive identity’, ‘lack of leadership and inspiration on that side of the ball’. It can’t be like that…that’s loosing football all the way.

        • johnnywad

          You’re missing the point Barb. Emery brought Trest here so we CAN trust the offense more than the defense. You’re looking for total balance between the two units. Very unrealistic. The best teams in the modern NFL trust their offense more than their defense. The Bears art finally on the right track. Its just a shame the D got this bad this fast. Even a mediocre D at this point would make the Bears one of two or three NFC teams that could be considered favorites to play in the Super Bowl.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            2 veterans like Anderson and Major Wright missing (guessing) their gaps after the bye week has nothing to do with your point of view. That’s a sign of sloppy work and Trestman has to take the blame. The best teams trust both their units at the same level… Seattle, San Francisco, Kansas City, New England, Cincinnati.

          • johnnywad

            Yeah. Trestman is to blame for Wright missing his gap. Brilliant

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Very funny. I like the fans that continue to think Lovie had nothing to do with the crappy offense the Bears had for years.

          • johnnywad

            Lovie had everything to do with the offense sucking. Major Wright sucks all by himself. Lovie had no idea how to scheme offense. What does that have to do with Major Wright missing his gap? The defense is bad, and Trestman is the coach. But Major Wright should be able to get to his gap. Theres a difference between bad scheme and bad play.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Trestman has everything to do with the defense sucking. Kelen Davis sucked all by himself………………
            We can’t use different standards other than the period of time. I really like Trestman, but how he managed the defensive side is a biggg red flag. I might sound paranoid, but it’s just the FEAR of another one dimensional coach. I’m confident in the future because I truly believe Emery will build a Bear defense. I’m just saying… it’s a thing to watch…how Trestman evolves in his weak spot.

          • bearsfantillend

            its been 8 games plagued by injuries on the Defensive side of the ball. With your logic we should blame Mike Smith for all the problems Atlanta is having on Offense, with all their injuries. Or Gary Kubiak for the craptastic year Schaub has had, or McCarthy for having a crappy backup when Rogers got injured. I would not say any of those coaches are responsible for the crappy years or games, because they have a track record. You are basing your opinions on a narrow window of time, and not taking into account that the real perceived problem with the Bears coming into this season was the offense, so that’s where the coaches and front office focused.

          • johnnywad

            Yes. Kellen Davis sucked all by himself. And Lovie Smith continued to play him in a bad scheme. So you had a bad player, in a bad system, for multiple seasons. Which is not at all the situation we’re talking about here. If Marc Trestman is still running Major Wright out there three seasons from now, in the same system, with a Dline full of backups, getting the same results and doing nothing to fix it, then your comparison just may have some validity. Right now it’s just nonsense and, Lovie Smith’s abject failure for ten seasons on offense has absolutely no room in the conversation regarding Major Wright missing his gap and Trestman’s ability to orchestrate a defense. You really thought Trestman was going to fix Major Wright and his approach to the run over the bye week? And if he didn’t “fix” it on a week off, he must be the Inverse Lovie Smith?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Fix him or change him. If you put him there it’s on you.

          • johnnywad

            And when you can do neither, you have the situation Trestman is in. Major is bad at football, probably can’t be fixed as you say. He won’t be turned into a good safety. Nor can he be changed.The guys on the bench are worse. But you still hang the problem on trestman despite his short tenure. That’s my problem with your initial post. They’ve made this roster over faster than I would have expexted, addressing most important needs first. You just can’t replace the whole teams in one or two off seasons. Your blame for Major belongs to Lovie Smith and Jerry Angelo, not Trestman.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            The Patriots are starting 2 undrafted DT, one of them claimed on the waivers before the start of the season. The Chiefs have a 7th rounder of the 49ers they signed after final cuts. He stole the place of Dunta Robinson, big money FA acquisition. I understand what you are saying and i must repeat myself ‘I truly believe in the Emery/Trestman pair’. But I don’t give them a break because they made their bed with their bad strategic decisions on the defensive side. They share the blame for subsubsubstandard defensive play.

        • bearsfantillend

          there have been many teams that had bad defenses to win a super bowl. you can win that way. just in recent history the worst are as follows:

          2011 Giants – 27th ranked defense
          2009 Saints – 25th
          2006 Colts – 21st
          2001 Patriots – 24th

          Just because you have an Offensive minded Coach does not mean they don’t have an impact on the Defensive. It has only been 8 games and there have been a ton of injuries. it is a little early to analyse Trestmans impact on the Defense. Our biggest problem coming into the year was the offense. the defense was supposed to be in a holding pattern, thats why they wanted to keep Marinelli. Unfortunately injuries and age caught up to them.

          • Scharfinator

            You and your facts!!!

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            That seems like where the Bears are trending. Allowing a lot of yds, but relying on sacks and turnovers. Bears are no longer in the bend don’t break realm. They’re in the break, but get turnovers school now.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            So you spent time researching this stuff and went back at least to 2001. That means -by your own standards- that only 33 % of the Super Bowl winners have ‘bad’ defenses. 66% have good/great D.

          • bearsfantillend

            its called Google??? less than a minute i came up with those stats. I picked only the worst defensive teams to prove the point that Defense does not equal Super Bowls. With a good/great offense you only need an average defense. So if you are going to continue to blame Trestman for the defense after only a handful of games that have been plagued by injuries of key defensive players. I will continue to make the argument that you are being short-sighted and moronic. Do we have problems on Defense? ABSOLUTELY!!! Have the problems been exacerbated by the injuries? ABSOLUTELY!!! When you are playing 3rd and 4th string players on the d-line you are going to have problems all over the field.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            No need for personal insults. Trestman should be blamed for the defense. It’s his fucking responsibility.

          • bearsfantillend

            LOL, we went from an inept offence last year that a 3rd grader could figure out to having what appears to be a well oiled machine of an offence this year, and very few of us thought the offensive transition would have happened so quickly. We went from a somewhat healthy defense last year to being down 2 d-linemen, 2 linebackers, and 1 cornerback(Peanut is obviously hurt and has not played his best this year) So dont blame me for you having short sighted and moronic views on the plausibility of having a great defense with that many starters injured. No coach can make sub par backups play like starters. We have a defense whose success is predicated on getting pressure on the opposing QB! Do you know how much pressure we have gotten on QBs – little to none. So when you lose 2 interior linemen and 2 linebackers of course the rest of the defense is going to suffer. That is why our safeties look like total clusterfucks out there. In the past their inabilities were often masked by the performance of our linebackers and dline, That is why i called you short-sighted and moronic. its your inability to see the big picture. Also like i stated before in another section, the perceived problem with the Bears coming into this year was the offense. So the coaching staff and front office put their full focus on getting the offense up to speed. Hoping the AGING defense would be able to be above average to average for one more year, unfortunately injuries prevented that. Why do you think they signed DJ Williams and Anderson to 1yr deals this year? its because the Defense was not their main focus, they were hoping that the previous 4-3 scheme would work out for one more year until they could address the needs next year and thats why they were hoping to keep Marineli one more year as DC. There is no coach in the world that would be successful with that many injuries to KEY player. And there is no coach in the world who in his 1st year as a head coach can change everything about a team. There are bound to be some portions of the team that don’t get addressed as much as they should in the FIRST year. I would think most people would be able to see that was their plan and most people would see that the injuries have exposed the weaknesses in the other areas of the defense. But i guess there are people out there that think that a coach has a bag full of fairy dust that he can sprinkle on the team and fix everything and now it is his fault that he isn’t using the fairy dust.

          • NewBearInTown

            That’s 4 bad defenses in 12 years, not a compelling stat.
            Plus, the 2011 Giants won the Superbowl because their defense suddenly came alive in the playoffs and they had an insane pass rush. Everybody complained both times the Giants won that Eli Manning should not have been MVP, and that the defense had 2-3 stars who were more deserving.
            The 2009 Saints made the Superbowl because their defense picked off Brett Favre. Those were two “offensive” teams that matched each other drive for drive. It was the team whose defense made a play that won the game.
            The 2006 Colts defense looked decent because they were playing Rex Grossman. I will grant you that 2006 showed the evolution of the league to favor the offense-heavy team over the defense-heavy team, but several teams in the last couple of years are showing otherwise.
            Great example is Dallas. Tony Romo put up 48 points and people say he’s the reason the Cowboys lost the game. I get that he threw a pick, but where the heck was the defense against Peyton Manning’s 51 points? That offense is good enough to win – they just need a D to match.

        • please tell us exactly when/where payton had a solid defense before bringing in rob ryan. was it when they were ranked 25th in 2009, as BFTE pointed out? i’m not sure where you’ve been, barb, but the knock on the saints in the payton era has always been their defense.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            The Saints D did their job even before Ryan.

          • being ranked 25th is doing their job?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            what does that mean ? ranked 25th ? I heard that the Patriots D is ranked very low this year. That’s a fucking joke. Their defense is Top 7.

        • Chris O

          That defense in KC that Emery had a huge hand in building seems to be doing alright….

          Emery knows how to build a defense. He focused on the number one issue facing the team and worked wonders far surpassing what any of us here thought it could be this year.

          There is no “band-aid” fix for our defense this year, and if the current defensive performance was the sacrifice needed to jump start the beyond sub par offense in Chicago, then I say make that sacrifice. Emery will build from here, look what he is already doing midseason with the signing of Jay Ratliff.

          The bipolar attitudes of some Bears fans astound me. It’s always end all be all with em.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Emery knows his shit. I never criticized him. I trust him 100%. I also love Trestman. I just don’t think it’s age or injuries that made this defense unrescuable as you say. I think it’s mostly lack of leadership and identity from the coaching staff… so Trestman is at fault. You can’t just give him a brake on the basis of the ‘offensive team fetish’ Bear fans have.

          • NewBearInTown

            Defense is easier to build than offense I think these days because the market is so down. Pass rushers can be rented for half of Peppers’ salary. Corners and safeties are still valued, but can be developed. Linebackers that don’t rush the passer are totally under-valued. We can do a lot of good to improve the defense in the off-season.
            But we beat the Packers! I’m hoping we can make something happen this year!

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Yes, but we where playing cover two against Seneca Wallace.

  • Big Mike

    In my opinion it is easier to put together a top defense. The Bears are on their way to being a team that “competes for championships” year in and year out for the next few season. I believe they have a 5 year window starting next year, to 1) win a superbowl 2) elevate the franchise into one of the 4 or 5 teams the average fan expects to see deep in the playoff chase every year.

    On defense their Rookie LBs will become reliable starters. The d-line has building blocks (Melton, Collins, Paea), We’ve got 7 draft choices to beef up the Pass Rush and find a safety or two. Kelvin Hayden will be back.

    As I’ve said before, this season is about getting experience and establishing an identity. Getting to the playoffs, would be a bonus because it means more experience, and who knows maybe the Bears catch lightning in a bottle.

    • MB30SD

      basically agree with your take mike, cept one thing…. kevin hayden was dogshit. He’s not good. We need to pick up two safeties and a corner somehow.

      • Big Mike

        My rationale is that he was judged to be better than Frey, who hasn’t sucked. So Hayden is a guy on the roster that you see if you can do better than at a reasonable cost. I’m all for upgrades at safety.

        If I had to bet, I’d say the Bears draft on early and get a couple free agents in the mix. Do you spend a first round pick on a Safety? I don’t know. Isn’t safety like Center where the best ones are on the board in the 2nd and 3rd round?

        • Scharfinator

          I’ve definitely noticed Frey alot more than I noticed Hayden when either plays.

          Frey had a saving tackle last game as Lacey made a cut back against the entire play (Frey was the only one left on that side) and would have broken a long, if not a TD run. He kind of runs over Frey, who grabs him by the hip and leg and pulls him down.

        • MB30SD

          you get your franchise safety in rd one mike… early in rd one.

          Mark baron (bama), earl thomas (texas), eric berry (tenn) all top guys in the nfl with their respective teams all making their respective dbackfields work. Seattle, Chiefs, Bucs (2 outt 3 ain’t bad). All take early in Rd 1. The later round guys… well, that’s who you see getting worked over in our dbackfield.

          we need to move up and take the best FS in the draft if there is one and if he’s a total stud. 7 years of picking scrubs and fucking 3rd round converted corners has us where we are now. No more I say!

          Move up and take a FS in the top 10 Emery… I beseech you!

          (IFF we can’t get an established name in FA or course… if we can, you do that and move up to get an animal at DT/NT early in 1)

          • NewBearInTown

            Know what happens when you spend a bunch of picks to move into the top 10. Even if you get a playmaker?
            You’re the Atlanta Falcons. You make the playoffs, but can’t put together a complete winning effort. And your team is a couple of injured starters away from not even competing.
            We don’t need one guy, we need 2-3 years of solid drafts for a new generation of Chicago Bears. That’s how you develop a winner. Two of the top drafting teams right now are San Francisco and New England. They both move all over the draft board, but you don’t see them jumping up 20 spots in the 1st round – just too expensive.

          • MB30SD

            I think that’s a very extreme example NB. I wasn’t suggesting giving up the farm for a top 10, I was expecting emery to do some magic with the players we have now to put together some draft magic

          • Big Mike

            @MB30SD:disqus I had no idea about Safeties. It’s a blind spot in my football knowledge. My take was safeties are smaller, hopefully faster linebackers, that like to hit and you can always find them. Guess I’m wrong there. Bears D never “NEEDED” exceptional safety play, because of Urlacher, and a good pass rush. As a result, I gave the Bears a lot of slack, because with salary caps, you can only invest big $ and high round draft choices at so many positions. I thought taking safeties in the 3rd round would eventually yield a guy who played above his grade. So far, the opposite has been true.

            The only other thing I might do is take another LB early. Like a great baseball team, strength up the middle. DT, LB, Safeties..

    • johnnywad

      Rodgers broken collar bone gives the Bears a very real chance to win the division. The Packers are going to struggle to beat anybody with Seneca Wallace at the helm. Lions and Pack still have to play at our place. We’ll beat the Lions Sunday with Cutler or McCown. The Lions record is what it is, but that’s not a quality 5 and 3 team. I still can’t believe the gift they were given by the Cowboys. Peanut finished the game Monday so hopefully he can deliver another of his signature performances covering Johnson. Pepp looked strong again Monday night. That light 3week schedule may have been just what he needed to get right. The Bears win comfortably Sunday and that’s when we all start to feel the playoffs on the horizon.

      • MB30SD

        as my father would say johnny… from your mouth to god’s ears.

        • johnnywad

          I was rambling wasn’t I? Jesus. Glad you get my drift. Toub-alicious? LOL.

      • Big Mike

        It absolutely does, but if you objectively look at the top teams after 9 weeks, Denver, Seattle, San Fran, KC.. the Bears aren’t there yet. That’s not to say that on any given Sunday.

        I’m very excited that the d-line played well. But lets be honest, Pepp, was playing against a rookie. The GB line had a back up guard in after their starter went out with a concussion. Don’t get me wrong, I’ll take it all day. Maybe Pepp needed the rest to recover from a nagging injury. Maybe the unit is starting to gel..

        Here’s the other thing, you hear it a lot from mutliple coaches around the league. The biggest step up in terms of performance comes between week 1 and week 2. For our linebacker corp, Detroit is week 2. So there is that…

        • johnnywad

          I agree. The Bears wouldn’t beat Denver in the Super Bowl today. I was just thinking after reading your post that its very likely they’ll be in the playoffs and get that gravy you’re referring to. I’ll add to it, let’s see what January brings. I think the D will be significantly better later than it is now. Bostic will have more experience, Briggs will be back, hopefully Ratliff is a nice addition. And if I saw what I think I saw, Pepp’s getting right.
          Seattle was taken to OT by the Bucs, Denver has shown some cracks and may have peaked to soon, not sold on SanFran anymore either. Let’s just let this thing play out.

          • Big Mike

            Of course. That’s what being a fan is all about. My all time favorite Bears team outside of the 85 team (obviously in a class by itself), was the 84 team. The win against Oakland was the first time in my memory that the Bears beat one of the “traditional powers”. The playoff win at RFK over the Redskins is probably my favorite game of all time.

            2013 has the potential to be a franchise turning point.

          • Cormonster

            The Redskins win is one of my all time favorites. I remember watching that game at my Grandma’s house.

          • Big Mike

            I was in DC with my College roomate. It was me, my kid brother (a bears fan) and 10 Redskin fans. They had never lost a home playoff game. It was fantastic.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      I actually think the Bears can match-up with any teams IF the Dline improves.

      Seattle’s secondary likes to play rough? Guess what, so do our “Trees”. Bmarsh singlehandly teabagged their “legion of boom”. Imagine what Bmarsh with Alshon and Black Uni and Forte used properly can do to them?

      Broncos can be beat with good CBs. We got those. Peanut can man up on Thomas and Jennings on whomever, Welker. Bump them off the line and hit Peyton. It worked for the Colts and their CBs aren’t nearly as good (but in this scenario Pepp would have to be Pepp).

      I’m not about to go down all the other teams, but we have the talent and more importantly, the coaching.

      The defense and specials just has to improve, and if they do, watch out.

      • Big Mike

        Ok, sure if the defense and specials play considerably better, we can match up. But remember we gave up 45 to the Redskins.

        Briggs coming back makes us better, but it doesn’t fix the safety position, or the fact that we can’t stop the run.

        So as long as we are playing the “IF” game, IF we can continue to generate 4+ sacks per game, IF Briggs comes back strong, IF the safeties can simply be average, IF Cutler can minimize his brain fart plays, IF we don’t have punts blocked, or give up onside kicks..
        Yeah then we can make a deep run.

  • Shady

    First things first, best game I’ve been to in my life. I can’t explain most of what went down that night, but I can tell you there was a surplus of schadenfreude watching the herds of peeeackers fans with sparkles in their hair and tears streaming down their faces as after Chicken Dinner and McDrago crushed their precious dreams. Oh the delicious taste of tears of unfathomable sadness muahahaha.

    • gpldan

      I can’t explain most of what went down that night

      Just tell us about the parts that involved lard as a lubricant.

    • MB30SD

      YOU’RE ALIIIIIVE!!!! Oh do regal us with whimsical tales of fantasy and wonder!

      Oh no he di-int… oh yes… he diiiiii: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjvXxwvg8mc

      and finally: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48H34ukFe8g

      • bearsfantillend

        was just getting ready to post that same clip of the Packer fan crying… Fucking hilarious!

        • MB30SD

          before you were here, when it came out, I must have posted it like 100 times.

          I would do the same for kate upton’s tits on that horse, but it would get me in trouble again… fucking jokey.

          • bearsfantillend

            been here for along time. i have only started commenting lately

      • Big Mike

        I’ll never get tired of that first one…

      • Bender McLugh

        HAHAHAHAHAH ohh man I never saw that first vid…..tears in my eyes

    • Doc Nitty

      You realize you’re going to have to go to GB for every bear game from this point forward, don’t you?

    • Big Mike

      Plus 1000. I can only imagine. Had to be a highlight of your Bear Fandom…

  • MB30SD

    Here’s my deal.

    We have what it takes to make a playoff run IFF:

    1. McCown continues to play like rich gannon of the raiders and/or cutty comes back fired up and ready to be good cutty for every game left

    2. Specials doesn’t have to be toub-a-licious, just not have fucking punts blocked or kicks taken to the house. When was the last time we had a fucking punt blocked btw, I can’t remember one?!

    3. D HAS to solidify itself. We don’t have to be the 85 squad, but for christ on a bike’s sake… 175 fucking yards on the ground?!?!?! Common guys, just have some pride and don’t look like a IIIA college squad out there.

    I think we HAVE to do something with wright/conte (like fire them). I’m still pushing TimmyJ to FS and frey to corner. Who’s with me…. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH..

    • gpldan

      MB –

      I think a better lineup, actually, is moving Peanut to Free, Steltz to Strong and having Zack Bowman take over as the 2nd corner.

      Jennings is a stud at the zone read. Frey has just learned nickel.

      Bench Wright and Conte and have Peanut play center field and we’re a better team,

      • MB30SD

        I know that’s the easy move we’ve all been talking about for a while now, and peanut DEF has the skill/size to pull it off, I’m just really worried about his health right now. Playing FS is MUCH more brutal than corner. Big collisions from much further away. If he was healthy I was considering throwing it out there, just don’t think he can right now and don’t want to lose him for the season on a hail marry project/experiment.

        I also thought about bowman, but haven’t heard his name in weeks and figured frey has proved to be the better athlete and corner/nickel guy since he’s on 1st string… so went with him instead.

        Here’s my logic… timmyJ is a serious ball hawk and a solid tackler, but he’s pretty bad in 1:1 coverage, and he gets smoked a lot. So to me it seems like his positive skills make him a perfect FS (aside from his height), and his 1:1 coverage weakness aren’t as apparent/impactful as a FS (where as a CB they should be a strong suit). So it seems that moving him to FS gives him much more room to be a ball hawk and angle tackler, and the fact that he’s a PB Cb ensures he’s probably going to be a better cover guy than most (conte be damned).

        Bottom line, conte/wright need to be the fuck off the field and we need to try something.

        • gpldan

          I always thought free was a little easier on the body since you didn’t need to be run support at the edge. Perhaps not.

          We are hating on Conte, but I think some of his bad positioning may be HIS loss of faith in Wright. He’s got a zone and he sees Wright late to the read and he’s trying to cover up Wright’s play, maybe?

          Somebody posted grades two threads ago. Wright’s were turrible. Maybe just pull him for Steltz and see if Conte improves.

          • MB30SD

            yes, but I wasn’t even considering peanut for SS… it was just FS vs CB. SS needs to be the fill guy. needs to be big and strong and fast, coverage is second. It’s the opposite for the FS.

            No. sadly, I watched conte very closely last game… almost every play. Not sure what happened to the dude, but he is just abjectly so bad. always late, always out of position, never takes good angles, gets blown up almost every tackle. Just super bad.

            Not sure if it was the dline pressure, the fact that we had real LBs, or the fact that lovie had him playing 30 yards out every single play last year, but the dude is a turrible fs when he’s asked to stand on his own and ‘just be a solid fs’. Wright sucks maybe even more horribly too, so we got that going for us.

          • CanadaBear

            My issue is Jennings is 5’8″ and 185. Conte looks small but he’s 6’2″ and 203. Giving up 6 inches and 20 lbs at that position is asking for trouble. Jennings is a great tackler and I’m guessing he’d be a huge improvement over Conte but how long would he stay healthy? Same with Peanut. We aren’t going to make the team better by moving pro bowl CB’s to Safety. The drop off at CB would be huge.

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            It could in theory be like moving Wooten to DT. We lose a little at DE to shore up a dire hole on our defense.

            Two things have to happen though:

            ONE. Coaches better be pretty certain Peanut can play FS better than Conte.
            TWO. Coaches better be confident Frey can handle his own in the base.

          • CanadaBear

            I’d still be in favor of putting Ratliff at DT ASAP and move Woot back to DE. There’s no doubt in my mind Peanut could play FS. There’s also no doubt in my mind he wouldn’t make it through the season.

          • Chris O

            It took Jennings some time to get to even be where he is at at corner. Learning a new position and the requisite angles and whanot midseason? Madness. He would get more exposed than our current safeties, guaranteed.

          • MB30SD

            I get it guys… and you’re both right (chris & canada), but we’re talking desperation here. Conte and wright HAVE to go… we have to try something different. anything.

          • CanadaBear

            The million $ question is; is tucker that bad of a coach or has Conte just totally lost it? Wright was always prone to brain cramps but would make the INT when it was there (I know he dropped a couple early in his career but he’s been good at it the last couple of years) so he’s been about the same. Conte has fallen off the chart. Very strange. Certainly a lack of confidence in his play. At this point we’ll need to draft/sign at least 2 safeties in the off season. The only way Wright comes back is on a 1-year deal.

          • MB30SD

            scrapheap both of them. new FS in FA… a known entity and leader. SS in draft. Corner in draft.

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            Jarius Byrd will be available, but he’ll cost. Do we pay through the ear for a S in the cover-2? That’ll be an interesting philsophical question.

            Usually, the Cover 2 doesn’t need Ed Reeds, Polamalus…just competent players, but we are far from that currently.

          • MB30SD

            yes please. we need a guy who’s going to come in and own the dbackfield. be the general like lach was. Be an ed reid… a mike brown. THAT’S what this D squad needs man.

            I swear, next year if we can just get:
            * a decent pass rush squad – melt back on the cheap, woot, ratlif, paea and maybe one other good to better than good body

            * Bring in a franchise FA FS that can be the man for the next 4-5 years

            * Get a decent solid, consistent SS either in the draft or FA

            * Keep our super deep quiver of LBs healthy (DJ, Anderson, Briggsy, Bostic, Greene) damn! that’s some serious depth maingses.

            * Pick up a stud new corner in the draft to start rotating in.

            * and most importantly… a DC who’s a fucking animal and knows what he’s doing. I would love to get Chico in here.

            Get most of that done and our D can be gooood again next year along with the O. Now, let’s talk specials. Sigh.

          • Old Safety

            Everything starts with the d-line. If they’re effective everyone behind them plays better because their job is easier. This line has not performed well for most of the season and put too much pressure on the guys behind them – those seven guys have had to play outside of their personal/positional comfort zones. That’s a recipe for chaos and injuries. Fencik, Lott, Troy P. would struggle to be themseves in this system ( although they’d be kicking some butt on the sidelines ) let alone, Wright and Conti. Don’t understand the hiring of this d-coordinator. This from an old safety.
            I go way back: The best Packer thrashing was 1965 when the Bears annihilated Starr and company 31-10. Second to that was the next week when Detroit squashed them 12-7. Karras lived in the Pack’s backfield the entire game. Both wins sweeter because the Pack won the Championship that year.

    • the blocked punt hurt. total blown assignment. gruden even said the kick was off in 1.8 seconds, .2 seconds lower than the league average on successful punts. dude just had a clear path to podlesh.

      that can’t happen.

  • gpldan

    I mentioned it to Jeff last thread, but he chose to ignore the point. So I’m gonna restate it again:

    If we punt, the chances it’s blocked at that point in the game are as high as 50%. Trestman saw what any good coach at the helm would see: DeCamillis didn’t have them ready to play. the Packers had looks and shifting in 9 guys that the Bears hadn’t prepared for, and there was little confidence with Jolly and Raji in there that they didn’t smash that line and get that ball.

    I’ve been appalled by the drop off from Taub to DeCamillis. It’s like signing up for your college Physics seminar and having Feynman get replaced by Jerry Lewis as the Nutty Prof. Players look undercoached. Hester is back to catching the punt/kickoff and then WAITING again, because he’s lost confidence his guys are going to make the blocks and he doesn’t like contact.

    We need two phases to operate to claim the division. And while having Ratlliff come in and play at 80% or 70% of the guy he used to be is instantly 2x as good as Cohen, it’s specials that is more likely to right the ship. And that starts with a coach who gets them ready.

    • MB30SD

      yep. with you here GP. Basically said the same thing below. DeCamillis needs to get his shit together and just be solid. that’s all. not spectacular or genius (which he obviously isn’t)… just no blocks or run backs. Seriously… it’s like your boss coming to you and saying, ‘you’re going to get full pay and full bonus, and you don’t have to be great or even good… just don’t shit the bed’

      I mean, common dude, just don’t fuck things up. You’re an NFL coach for christ’s sake… how can that be so hard to pull off!?!?!

    • CanadaBear

      We got spoiled with Toub. Rarely were we out coached or out played on ST’s while he was here. Now it’s 50/50 or worse we come out on the short end. I know Devin doesn’t like contact but he is 5th in the league in PR avg at 14.3 yds/return. His KO avg is 28.2 with 3 returns over 40 yds. He’s certainly past his prime but he’s still a good return man. With a better ST’s coach he would be doing better. Have to say part of the problem is injuries. Every time someone goes down there is a new man on ST’s.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      I don’t know about 50% chance of getting blocked. I can’t remember the last time a team totally whiffed on a punt block twice in one game. ESPN did a good job of timing Podlesh and concluded he got it off in under 2 secs, so it wasn’t on him.

      But i agree about DeCamillis. He’s beginning to remind me of Tice. Every ‘expert’ would claim he was an offensive line guru, and for a while I would buy it cuz, hey, these analyst are ex-SB winning coaches, GMs, offensive linemen, etc and I’m just a mench with a TV.

      Every week I kept waiting to see Tice’s genius, and every week I was disappointed. DeCamillis is beginning to creep into that territory.

      DeCamillis just doesn’t seem as detailed oriented as Toub. I don’t think any of the SP teamers believe in him esp after Toub. Sure, he’s had to cycle players, but that’s EVERY SP/T coach. What I don’t know is how much pull DeCamillis has with getting his players. Toub would have a great deal of influence in who to bring in. It could be that DeCamillis in free agency and the draft wanted certain players but only got the leftovers.

      Oh, and +1 for the Feynman reference.

    • EnderWiggin

      All you guys and your DeCamillis hate. I’m not sure it is a question of “who is better, Toub or DeCamillis”? I think the biggest reason for the downfall of our ST has more to do with Lovie/Trestman.

      1) Lovie always spent extra time on ST during practice. This usually requires guys from every aspect of the team. As you know, teams are only allowed a certain amount of time practicing as a group. It is possible we are spending more time trying to learn a new offense and fix a declining defense – just doing the bare minimum to get by on specials.
      2) Lovie always encouraged his best players to play on certain specials situations. Sure we see Pep in during the FG block call, but overall if you watch the kickoff/return units they are almost entirely non-starters. Franklin just got the call up from practice squad and made a ST tackle for us.

      Good for Franklin, but you almost never seen a new guy step in and make a play correctly with Taub at the helm. That is because the Specials guys were drilled and drilled hard for the last decade. Now though, they look like a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off. Sure, I’m guessing they spend a shitload of time studying, but nothing can compare to that extra time on the field that Lovie gave his ST coach.
      Don’t get me wrong Taub IS a better Specials coach than DeCamills. But if Taub had to go DeCamillis would be my first choice (except maybe Ditka). I have a feeling if specials is going to be fixed it will be because our head coach is willing to sacrifice time.

  • Shady

    The call to go for it in the 4th was the right call only because it worked. Had it not and had the Bears lost on a couple of Mason Crosby FGs, the clear consensus would have been to string Trestman up by his tresticles.

    But, somewhat ironically, it was those same tresticles that led to him making he decision to go for it on that play. For such an analytical numbers guy to make a gutsy call was unexpected.

    I have to admit I was struggling to understand why the Bears decided to call a timeout instead of challenging the spot of the ball. Worst case the Bears lose te challenge and a timeout, but if you’re calling timeout anyway, why not use a challenge to possibly avoid having to make the tough decision?

    Although Lacy was tearing em up, Seneca was not doing shit against the Bears D. Common logic would be to punt a force Wallace to drive the field for a TD. Gifting the Packers a FG in that situation would have been a terrible terrible outcome. The Bears needed to force the Packers to win by scoring a TD, a strategy which would have been compromised if the Bears failed to gain the inch.

    Just looks like the Bears are going to ride or die depending on the feeling in Marc’s Tresticles.

  • bearsfantillend

    love this tweet:

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    At this point Bears defense should scrap film study / scheme implementation. They should spend Thursday & Friday just tackling stuff.”

    Just imagining Bears D in full pads wondering the halls of Halas Hall tackling secretaries/janitors/water coolers. unfortunately i still think Conte would take a bad angles and whiff on everything.

    • MB30SD

  • gpldan

    The NFL is going to go head-on against the CTE Books:

    http://tinyurl.com/kx3ppsv

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      NFL is becoming that Achilles’ scene in the Odyssey when his mother-prophetess informs him that he can go to war, die young and be remembered forever, or stay home, live contently, die old and remain a nobody.

      It’s part of every hero journey. Usually a woman figure tries to make the hero stay home, remain domesticated, think of the family…but a nagging drive for greatness overrides the Darwinian impulse to remain safe.

      • gpldan

        That’s fine. Every NFL player should be allowed to make the hero’s choice.

        But then, they pay for all their medical care from their riches afterwards. Can’t be insured, can’t get Obamacare. Fee or service or, as Alec Baldwin says in GlenGarry, hit the bricks pal.

        I can live with that instead of socializing the inevitable pain and suffering.

        Another option I am fine with: Carousel, Logan’s Run Style. Hit 40 and the chip beeps (it was 30 in Logan’s Run, but you know, Hester is 31 now) and off to the oven.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    Ahhh, Ed Hopper. Great artist. Conveyer of urban loneliness and the price of industrialization before it became every indie movie theme.

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MkwXLGDKEeY/TEXZ3bOfW3I/AAAAAAAACcU/gqPSa4HskQs/s1600/edward-hopper-morning-sun.jpg

    Often painted Light Towers as symbols of American individuality and alone-ness. He had a signature method of catching light. I can tell if it’s a Hopper or who’s been influenced by Hopper just by the light.

    Oh, grunt grunt, go Bears.

    • Shady

      That’s not your mother, that’s a MAN baby, yeah.

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

        Great art critic, Shady lol

        You’re alive! We all thought you got squashed by some cow.

      • MB30SD

        hahahahaha

  • Sactowns#1

    Haha. Idk if you guys have been watching any of these but some of them are pretty awesome!

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    I’ve been noticing somewhat of a trend lately, and it’s a bit surprising. Bad run D for winning teams.

    Not just the Bears either.

    When you think of the 9ers and Seahawks, you think impenetrable defensive wall. Not so.

    9ers are allowing 104.6 yds/game (12th)
    Hawsks 116.2 (19th)
    Chiefs 118.6 (24rth)
    Colts 124.9 (27th)
    Bears 127.5 (29th)
    Pats 128.2 (30th – they mirror us in losing their PB DT and LBs)

    http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=RUSHING&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2013&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=RUSHING_YARDS_PER_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1

    This is truly odd because usually when opposing teams rack up run yds, it means a close game or trailing, yet all these teams have winning records. Hmmm…

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    Some twitts.

    “Jay Ratliff signing is official too now by the way. He will wear No. 96 for #Bears”
    “Came into the league as a Bear in 2004. “@adamjahns: #Bears have agreed to terms with LS Jeremy Cain”
    “Josh McCown’s played DET once, throwing for 313 yds, 2 TD, 2 INT &
    93 passer rating. Jay Cutler is 7-3 vs. DET, 14 TD, 4 INT & 94.7
    rating.”

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      lol “#Bears DE Shea McClellin has 6 career sacks. Four and a half have come vs. Green Bay.”

      Maybe Emery is a savant after all.

      • AlbertInTucson

        It’s only fair. Jermichael Finley has made a career out of playing the Bears.

    • gpldan

      Ratliff just has to be something at this point. Collins level of play would be a big step back up.

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

        If Ratliff is any good, I’m coining him Master Splinter. If he sucks, I’m just gonna refer to him as Ben.

  • Trac

    I guess the moral of this story is, “don’t clench your buttocks” if you ever get pulled over. lol. Sad but funny.

    http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2013/11/06/man-claims-he-was-anally-probed-8-times-following-traffic-stop-for-drugs/

    • Bearssssss

      Except for the funny part, yeah.

    • NewBearInTown

      Tricky thing is, they had a warrant. I’d be curious if that means you can search the guy 8 times, but wow.
      I worked for a juvenile hall for 2 years in college. We did not perform cavity searches. If we suspected someone was holding onto something (rare), then we did two things: (1) During a strip search by one officer of the same gender, have the person “squat and cough.” The cough relaxes the muscles and will cause something hidden to be expelled. (2) If that fails and you still suspect something is hidden, you place the person in a camera-monitored room and wait for them use the toilet. Then someone can do a quick visual inspection. You can leave the water off in the room (we did that frequently to avoid an upset minor flooding his room on purpose), that way they can’t flush before the inspection.
      I think we did that once in 2 years. We found exactly one item of contraband (a pencil) that was snuck into a room in that manner.
      The key point is, it might take a bit longer than simply performing a forced cavity search, but it is much less invasive. Nobody wants to have to ask permission to flush the toilet, but that process is considerably more dignified than what the story describes.

  • Bearssssss

    On that play, doesn’t it seem like Martellus Bennet sheds his guy (51) a little quickly? He’s the one who ends up making the tackle, and he almost gets to Forte before the LOS.

    • gpldan

      good point. If Bennett just seals Forte goes easily. The play probably doesn’t call for it so he can pick up a safety that doesn’t show

      • Bearssssss

        I bet if Hawk hadn’t gotten to Forte, he’d have been past there by the time 51 came free. Makes sense. Crazy sense.

        • yup. looks like bennett released to go lay down some hurt in the second level. not sure who on the line should’ve had hawk, but fiametta missed his chance to make the block that muster would have made in his sleep.

          • Waffle

            did I miss something? Didn’t Fiametta make the block on the backside?

          • in watching again, it looks like he gets his pads on hawk after hawk got his arms on forte. so perhaps fiam DID make the play happen. not forte.

          • Waffle

            Forte still hits it hard though. He was in the zone and is playing with confidence. He will carry that confidence into next week. 20+ touches.

  • gpldan

    Ever hear of the Atkins diet? Bitch!

  • Waffle

    I want to start this post by commending Josh McCown on his poised approach to the game over the last 6.5 quarters. He has taken what was the D was giving. He has used his legs when needed. He has thrown the ball away when he thought nothing was there.
    Trestman called an excellent SECOND HALF against Washington and overall a great game against GB (except TE screens where Bennett starts at 0mph catching the ball running laterally or is stationary and is expected to become a running back)
    The Bears offense as I implored them for the first games of the season actually used all of their weapons in the same game and throughout the entire 4 qtr game which has been a first this season. They used Forte across the middle after the middle was cleared out. They stretched the field in the redzone to put extreme stress on the defensive backs (resulting in two touchdowns). They committed to creative runs and 24 Forte total touches.
    The Detroit Lion pass rush is a different animal though. For fans to think that somehow McCown is just as capable as Cutler is laughable. If Cutler is close to being healthy he needs to play this game. If he is not then McCown has to start. If he starts Trestman better watch the 2nd and 3rd quarters of the Detroit game on how not to call plays or else we’ll be in for a tough day. Designed plays to get the ball out immediately in creative formations to put stress on DB’s trying to jump quick routes is imperative.

    • MB30SD

      and please god cut back on the fucking draws. I think I saw two in a row, or one draw followed immediately by a 32 dive like 3 or 4 times. That peeved me a little.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Shea McClellin: NFL Defensive Player of the Week.

    Whoda thunk it? Ever.

    • DaMurph

      Not me. I think it deserves a Burma Shave, Al

      • gpldan

        It screams Burma Shave.

    • AlbertInTucson

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      “Chicken Dinner”, that’s Shea McClellin…



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      Have to admit I’m shocked to be tellin’…



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      Burma-Shave

  • gpldan
  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    ahhh…wth? So, I signed into my youtube channel cuz I wanted to check out a few vids, and what happens? They’re now FORCING youtubers to switch to Google +. I don’t want to use google +. I have an old youtube account, but apparently, it doesn’t matter. Google + wants you. I don’t even care really, but I don’t like Google + being jammed down my throat.

    And we all know who owns Google, right? That’s right, the NSA (Irish, where art thou?)

  • MB30SD
    • johnnywad

      Already full of Tao bro. Might as well cash the checks if that’s really the worry.

  • CanadaBear

    Just because a HC knows O (Trestman) it doesn’t disqualify him from knowing D. Let’s be honest, even Lovie knew O he just couldn’t get the OC correct. You have to understand the other side of the ball to be good at your specialty.

    What’s the matter with you guys? The story of the husband (Bear fan) tasering his wife (Packer fan) after she lost a bet has been out there for 24 hours and nobody has commented. Well I will. You can’t beat free entertainment! ESP when it involves hillbillies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Cormonster

      Zion, Waukegan, Beach Park, and suburbs east are loaded with hillbillies. So is Kankakee, right next to Tinley Park where that couple is from.

    • AlbertInTucson

      That WAS discussed last thread, Canada.

  • Cormonster

    One of my all time favorite college players, John Moffitt, just retired. He was a guard at Wisconsin and kicked some major ass. I gloated about him on this site all through his senior season. He was way better than Carimi in college. The Seahawks were ecstatic when they drafted him. Then he got the injury bug, which was never a problem in college. He decided to walk away from the game because he’s not happy. Here’ an article.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/broncos/2013/11/06/john-moffitt-quits-seattle-seahawks/3454097/

    • Big Mike

      So that whole Wisconsin line was just an absolute bust.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    Oh, Kreutz….

    “Dolphins coaches reportedly encouraged Incognito to pressure Martin
    into conforming with the code of the locker room, and Hillenmeyer said
    team management often will look the other way.

    “If you’re (former
    Bears general manager) Jerry Angelo or you’re (former Bears coach)
    Lovie Smith, as much as you might not approve of some of the methods,
    you like the results,” he said of Kreutz’s behavior. “People were going
    to come to OTAs and they weren’t going to have loose lips with the
    media, they weren’t going to do a lot of things to damage the locker
    room – not because they didn’t want to, but because they were scared of
    Olin.

    “You need guys like that in the locker room, and coaches tend to just
    let it happen unless there’s something egregious going on that’s right
    under their nose.”

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-hillenmeyer-kreutz-20131106,0,899297.story?track=rss

    • gpldan

      No mention of Fred Miller’s broken jaw.

      When Hunter shows up on the Score, on Phillips show, he says whatever he feels like saying.

      • Cormonster

        Gp, I’m curious to hear your opinion on Moffitt’s retirement.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I just wish I could afford to walk away from $1M.

        • gpldan

          I wanted Moffitt early in the 2nd round, after we took Sour Carimi.

          Good thing we didn’t. That Badger group busted out.

          Some guys just aren’t dominant. They have been the man in HS, the man in college and they go Pro, and they are not the man anymore. Some guys fold. Moffitt seems to have folded.

          It’s easy to say “this isn’t fun”, but it’s the pros. Work isn’t fun. I don’t go to work because it’s fun, do you? It’s a career decision, he can walk away and not be as rich and live to do something else without sore knees and a slipped disc. His call.

      • Big Mike

        Fred Miller probably deserved it, and it probably kept the Locker Room in line for the next 5 years.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Anyone else sick (before the end of the first day, or the first 10 minutes for that matter) of having to listen all this Richie Incognito discussion on the radio instead of actual talk about football?

      • BerwynBomber

        Once the media discovered the N word was used it was predictable we would be hit with overkill. They find a story of racism (white on black only of course), they are like a calico in a field of catnip. Pretty funny, though, that the Dolphin players seem to be largely defusing it.

    • BerwynBomber

      No surprise Kreutz was a bully. He was our a-hole but make no mistake about it, he was always an a-hole. I’m just surprised Hillenmeyer risked confirming, by name, what we already knew.

      • Big Mike

        Not an a-hole. He was the guy in charge of the Locker Room. Kept the Bears buttoned up. He enforced the “rules”. Play hard, shut your mouth, no “prima donna” behavior in the Chicago Bears Locker room. It is one of the things I was proud of as a Bears Fan.

  • AlbertInTucson

    I’m repeating myself but, even though it’s another rather large division game this Sunday, I do NOT risk Cutler for 1 game, at the possible expense of re-injuring that groin and costing him another 4-5 games.

    There’s half a season to go.

    Play it smart and err on the side of caution.

  • AlbertInTucson

    18 Plays.

    80 yards.

    8:58 off the clock.

    On ONE 4th quarter drive.

    Once upon a time boys & girls (back in the Gibron years), THAT, all too often, took an entire HALF to accomplish.

    Often without resulting in any points.

  • MB30SD

    this is for Al.

    Stories coming out that martin and ingcognito were besties and that martin laughed about the voice mail that everyone is all up in arms about. Even tanny-hill was ‘shocked’

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000277722/article/hartline-jonathan-martin-laughed-about-voice-mail

    • AlbertInTucson

      Yeah, I saw that Tanneyhill sound bite this afternoon at work.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Sampling the Kevin Harlan & Boomer Esiason Network Radio broadcast of Monday’s game on Westwood One.

    Unlike Packers’ crew, Wayne Larivee and Larry McCarron, who did not notice that Rodgers was injured until the Bears had run 2 plays, Boomer spotted trouble almost immediately and speculated whether Rodgers would be able to return BEFORE the Packers even kicked off after their FG.

    Pretty obvious that former QB, Esiason, took one look at how Rodgers landed and KNEW it was not good. His guess at a diagnosis was a left shoulder separation, an injury he had endured to HIS right (non-throwing shoulder) during his playing days.

    • AlbertInTucson

      First and goal Bears at the one after the 27 yard catch & run by the Unicorn, as soon as the Bears run Bush for a loss, Esiason basically called for the Bears to spread the formation which is what they did on 2nd down en route to Forte’s untouched TD run.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Here’s some bad Boomer. He referenced Alshon as, you guessed it, Jeffreys.

        • AlbertInTucson

          More bad Boomer. “Robbie GOOLD”.

  • Thompson Way

    I had no problem with the play call on 4th down. If we didn’t get the 1st down, then they had a short field to get their TD, but wouldn’t be able to use the clock against us, and holding them to a field goal is also a win.
    It is amazing to see how far the O line has come this year. If Emery can do the same thing for the D next year, then we should be contenders every year…. as promised!

  • Jeff, you have got to be one of the only successful blogs that takes a picture of his television to draw up plays. Classic and old-school, love it.

    • bearsfantillend

      we need to get Jeff a telestrator so he can channel his inner Madden. BOOM!!!

  • gpldan

    Suh states that he hopes Cutler can play this Sunday so he can hurt him again.

  • gpldan

    Attorney Ted Sell of the law firm of Maul, Slice, Ripkind, Wharton & Hahvad was appointed by NFL Commissioner Roger Dodger and will prepare a report about the Dolphins organization that will be made public, the league said in a statement.

    “This type of embarrassment to the NFL couldn’t come at a worse time for me, personally”, Goodell was quoted as saying. “So we’re gonna lay the hurt on that front office as payback for letting that story get to the press. New York attorney style.”

    Dolphin Front Office had no comment.

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