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Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings Game Thread

| December 1st, 2013

metrodome

Bye bye Metrodome. Here were my Quick Hits on Twitter from yesterday:

Quick hits for Bears v Vikings. #1 of 5. Bears need to dominate offensively & force Minnesota to throw. Keep Podlesh on the bench 1st half.

#2 of 5. Trest can say all he wants about run fits but safeties are reason the 6 yd run is going for 60. 1 bad Conte angle = 6 AP points.

#3 of 5. Bears gave Minnesota 14 defensive/special teams pts the first go-round. Need a clean sheet from both departments.

#4 of 5. I can see Christian Ponder rolling casually to his right & hitting the TE for a meaningful 1st down. McClellin/Woot can’t let him.

#5 of 5.Time for Bostic & Greene to grow up. Play aggressive, violent yet disciplined game. Watch some Singletary tape. Or just ask Briggs.

One more week without the game chat. Live in the comments, my friends!

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  • Ghost of Waffle

    Time to run the table boys.
    Ponder. Dead.
    Ratliff. Charged.

  • Big Mike

    Off topic. But I’m curious. Does anyone else dislike the Wisconsin Badgers because we took a fraud Offensive Lineman from them. Penn State beating the Badgers in WI made me happier than it should have.

    • Ghost of Waffle

      I’m inclined to be more disgusted with Penn State the child rape factory. That culture of lunacy from the top down to the idiot kids that defended and continue to defend a child rapist has to be stopped.
      Penn State = Adults condoning rape for football consistency.

      • Big Mike

        Yeah I wasn’t even factoring in the opponent. Just focused on not liking The Badgers

        • Cormonster

          Them is fighting words Mike from this alum! Don’t blame the Badgers because of Carimi bad pick. He was never a good pass blocker in college and I was surprised he graded out as a first rounder by “experts”.

          The Badger football and basketball programs rarely if ever are top 25 in recruiting, yet consistently both programs are top 15 at the end of the year. And they’ve been a clean program with high graduation rates for those athletes. When players get into trouble off the field they are usually cut right away.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Agreed – as an Illini fan, I can always count on the Badgers to be a problem in hoops season. Very well run program.

          • Big Mike

            My reaction wasn’t fact based. My perception of Wisconsin has always been that they have a stud offensive line. They mash people. Then we get what experts had said was one of the best OL guys, and he turns out to be a turd.

            So now I have an irrational feeling towards WI. Such is life as a fan.

      • Cormonster

        The racket that is the NCAA has quietly given Penn State a bunch of scholarships back. They got 24 for next year.

      • gpldan

        + a lot.

        Happy Valley is a looney bin. Rot in hell JoePa.

  • tobijohn

    What’s wrong with the chat? It seemed to be working fine the last time it was active…

  • Johnny fooseball

    chicken dinner and won-ton need big games today.

  • Ghost of Waffle

    Ugh, just saw a pregame piece on Hester. He got fucking jobbed on that holding call last week. That and the inability to score from the 5 yard line or call an intelligent play on 4th down gave that game to the Rams. The D sucks cock we know that but we fucking had it.
    Hopefully Hester can return one today and Marc can remember that it’s ok to put Marshall in on the goal line to catch a 3 step drop pitch and catch.
    Bear down.

  • Doc Nitty

    mmmmbearsssss!

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    Harvin is listed as doubtful…is this Pete Shananigans, or is Harvin really not playing against NO?

    Two funniest posts about Harvin I’ve read.

    “Harvin – the black Amendola”
    “Harvin should just hyphenate his name: Percy Harvin-Doubtful”

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    Only thing going to hold AP from hitting 300 is his groin and gassing out. I expect to see Conte hold on to APs leg for about 10 yards until AP finally tires and goes down, sorta like how I drag my nephew on my leg on the way to the door.

  • Cormonster

    I’m glad the Metrodome is history after this year. That place is a piece of shit that pumps in crowd noise. I was there once for a cold weather game in the early 90’s and half the fans were dressed in casual business attire and cardigans. If you didn’t know it was a football game, you would think you were going to a Celine Dion concert. Totally lame fan base.

    Bear down!

    • gpldan

      And the women look like this

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    Game I’m really looking forward to that hasn’t been getting any love: Eagles-vs-Cards, battle of the birds.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    Cool pic of Ratliff pregame. Hopefully he plays how he looks.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BaaqmLQIIAAq_Qm.jpg:large

  • Ufficio

    BEAR THE FUCK DOWN

  • DaMurph

    What the fuck was the Hester?

  • Ufficio

    How stupid do you have to call any pass plays against the Bears’ D when you have AP and your quarterback is Ponder?

  • Hank

    So hard to keep me from starting my Hester rant…… have .. to … resist….

  • DaMurph

    Go ahead and rant Hank.

  • DaMurph

    Steltz playing nicely

  • tobijohn

    McCown is off today..

  • Guest

    Ridiculous that whomever is doing this game doesn’t know Tillman or Steltz firsts names

  • Hank

    wait, the vikings kick returner didnt stop and dance around for 3 seconds and go backwards first, isn’t that a penalty? 🙂

  • Ufficio

    Thought the offense would get off to a better start

  • bearsfantillend

    Garza has had 3 snaps from the shotgun that were at McCowns knees or lower. need to get that fixed or bad shit gonna happen

  • Woottonsfirstsack

    I agree, I thought for sure that McCown would be a bit more sharp today. Plenty of time left.

  • Woottonsfirstsack

    I just hope they don’t wait until half time to make adjustments. I sure hope that Hester can remember to run towards the goal post and not the sideline.

  • Ufficio

    Pass rush!

  • Ufficio

    WTF HESTER?

  • SC Dave

    A pass rush? No time to watch this, but listening for another 20 minutes or so.

  • Hank

    FAIR CATCH? WTF. Hester you suck.

    You have one job. And you suck at it.

    • Ufficio

      Preach it.

      • Hank

        I like the return scheme – they are leaving a shortback to give Hester a chance to return it – and Hester STILL calls fair catch.

        • Woottonsfirstsack

          They ruined him when they added receiver to his resume. He hasn’t been the same since. Probably never will be.

  • Woottonsfirstsack

    And the self destruction begins.

  • Shady

    NOW Trestman takes the points. What happened to those Tresticles?

  • Shady

    Did Steltz get the start today?

    • Woottonsfirstsack

      Yes

      • Shady

        … As he gets run over by AP for 40 yards…

        • Woottonsfirstsack

          He is consistent.

  • Woottonsfirstsack

    Apparently Peppers’ contract is dangling precariously over the shredder in the coaches office.

    • Shady

      Yeah, Pep came to play today.

  • Woottonsfirstsack

    Our secondary is coming apart. What is Doug Plank doing these days?

  • Ufficio

    About five low snaps so far from Garza

  • bearsfantillend

    Garza is really pissing me off with these low snaps

    • SC Dave

      Lots of comments from Joniak and Thayer on that.

  • Ufficio

    Awesome tackling!

    • Woottonsfirstsack

      I thought tackling was a basic fundamental of the game.

    • Hank

      I think Conte has been giving lessons.

  • Trac

    Just sat down to watch the game and on the first play#84 ran it in basically untouched. Smh.

  • bearsfantillend

    WTF!!!! we got to tell the Vikings to slow down so we can figure out whose turn it is to blow a tackle

  • tobijohn

    Oh Craig…

  • SC Dave

    Well, gotta scoot and cannot follow rest of game. Sounds like offense is not getting it done. Hell, did anyone really think that it would be halfway through the 2nd quarter before the Vikings scored?

  • Ufficio

    Shit, the unicorn’s down.

    • Shady

      Aaand he’s back.

  • Ufficio

    Michael BUsh sighting!

  • Ufficio

    Same shit as always. Moving the ball, can’t finish the drive.

    • Shady

      The Marshall drop really killed that drive.

      • Ufficio

        True fact.

  • tobijohn

    Josh is looking rather pedestrian so far…

  • Trac

    Ok 3 is good. C’mon D.

  • Woottonsfirstsack

    At this rate, we give the game ball to Gould.

  • Ufficio

    Now that the vikings figured out to just run the ball we may be in trouble.

  • Shady

    Mel Tucker finally out of the booth, flipping his shit on the sidelines.

  • Ghost of Waffle

    why can’t we score against the Vikings?

    • Ufficio

      McCown is off.

      • Ghost of Waffle

        Marshall helped kill that last drive but damn, i don’t care what your rating is if your throwing 3yd completions on 3rd and 13

  • Trac

    Queens have a hundred tss rushing already.

  • Ufficio

    Shit, I hope we didn’t knock Ponder out of the game. He’s our MVP.

  • Ufficio

    WHAT THE FUCK? 10 second run-off?

    • Ufficio

      Either we get the forward progress which was a 1st down, or we stop the clock for out of bounds.

      • Ufficio

        Fucking bullshit.

        • Ghost of Waffle

          what a brutal interpretation of the rule. he was coming back for the fucking ball. he wasn’t moving forward. This fucking league man. I wish there was an alternative. The only time they will stop fucking up the game is when the revenue stream is interrupted.

    • Shady

      Dafuq indeed.

    • bearsfantillend

      we get fucked by a 10 second run-off because the refs fucked up?? does not make sense.

  • tobijohn

    Uh oh, the Bears tend to elevate opposing backup QBs to star status..

    • Woottonsfirstsack

      Especially with our secondary in the shape they are in.

  • Hank

    Vikings with Matt Cassel are a bunch of cripples. If we cant beat them, we don’t deserve playoffs. Bear Down for the 2nd half.

  • Cormonster

    I don’t get the 10 second runoff unless Jeffrey was given the 1st down and forward progress was stopped. If they spot the ball where he went out of bounds, then no time should come off the clock. Don’t get that ruling.

    • Hank

      they said he caught it 1 yard short of 1st down (where his fwd progress was). Hence stayed in bounds, and short of 1st. Makes sense, and unfortunate, but lesson is you need to throw PAST the mark.

  • Ghost of Waffle

    start scoring some fucking points for gods sake.

  • Woottonsfirstsack

    AWSOME!!

    • Shady

      AL!

      • Woottonsfirstsack

        That was one perfect pass.

    • Hank

      nice. havent seen that in years!

    • Shady

      Perfect throw.

  • tobijohn

    Did he make the Sign of the Cross after the score?

  • Shady

    Steltz in coverage… Yikes.

    • Woottonsfirstsack

      Steltz in uniform…Yikes

  • Woottonsfirstsack

    Nice job Craig.

  • Hank

    Conte made a good tackle. OMG.

  • Ghost of Waffle

    The D has taken my joy over the McCown to Alshon TD and extinguished it with a steady stream of piss.

    • Shady

      #ReturnofthePep

      • Woottonsfirstsack

        I hope he can keep it going for the rest of the year.

        • tobijohn

          Seems to be a pattern of every other game…

  • Shady

    McCown falls down. Negative plays have killed the Bears offense all day.

  • Shady

    HOLY SHIETE WHAT A CATCH. ALSHON!

  • Hank

    WOW. Alshon. So glad to see him come into his own.

  • Shady

    Marshall and Jeffrey. Best WR combo in the league.

  • Ufficio

    Alshon atoning and then some for those drops earlier in the season.

    • Ghost of Waffle

      lol, unfortunately those drops cost us the Lions game. I love the kid and he’s a beast. It is what it is. he made the catches today so we blow McCown and forget about the mistakes, he drops them against the Lions and Cutler is selfish for playing….

      Alshon is going to be a star. Now trestman just needs to trust him on 3rd and 1 with the game on the line and we’ll be all good.

  • bearsfantillend

    one of the best catches i have seen all year.

    • Shady

      Hands like vice grips.

  • Woottonsfirstsack

    Why is that catch “Calvin Johnson-esque?” Why not Alshon Jeffery-esque?

  • DSupreme

    Mutha Fuckin’ Alshon Jeffrey in BEAST mode!!!!!!!!

  • underway

    Since when does hester have to have the “perfect” conditions to return a punt?

    • Ghost of Waffle

      the fair catch earlier in the game with the nearest guy 8yds away was my favorite.

    • Woottonsfirstsack

      Hopefully someone has told him that he absolutely CANNOT run side to side, so the fair catch is his new option. Who knows with that guy?

  • underway

    I wonder how #15’s ego is doin with all of this Alshon success? Lets get the ball to #15 to even the universe…

    • Ghost of Waffle

      you sound like PFT. 🙂
      he’ll be fine

      • underway

        Hope so. But more importantly I need the damn fantasy points today.

        • Trac

          ha ha ha. I thought so.

  • Woottonsfirstsack

    McCown sliding into the groove.

  • Ghost of Waffle

    i hope Pep is not hurt too bad. it looked like a leg or foot

  • Trac

    Ok, who was it that said the queens were gonna put up 38 pts? Dave I think.

  • BerwynBomber

    Jeffrey is a freaking beast. McCown continues to impress. Peppers was having a heckuva game and, lo and behold, even Conte made a major play on that TD-saving tackle on AP in the red zone.

    • Ghost of Waffle

      quarterbacks are usually deemed impressive when receivers catch the passes thrown to them, especially if those catches end up on NFL Network commercials for the next 2yrs.
      It’s good that we have a solid backup.

      • BerwynBomber

        Dude, honestly … relax with your Cutler love insecurities. McCown has played well again. Deal with it.

        • Ghost of Waffle

          It’s sad that we score 6 points in a half and you act like you just got laid for the first time.

  • Ghost of Waffle

    i love that the announcers are talking about a quarterback controversy. Makes my head numb. We have 20pts and 6 in the first half.

    • Woottonsfirstsack

      Just goes to show you that 99 out of 100 qb controversies are started by the press and not the coaches.

    • Trac

      I think McCown is thriving in the system. He is not a pro bowl qb but he is playing very well.

      • Ghost of Waffle

        of course he is. He’s a solid quarterback, we finally have an all star team on offense and we have a coherent playcaller and offensive line.

        • Ghost of Waffle

          allstar caliber weapons i mean.

    • Hank

      I am in favor of the controversy. While I have loved Cutler over previous attempts at QB, he is not a team player. Case in point, after most TDs he walks off the field like an arrogant ass. If we could get value for him somewhere, I say we take it.

      • bearsfantillend

        disagree. walking off the field after TDs does not make him arrogant. thats your perception. he doing what he gets paid to do.

      • Ghost of Waffle

        Hank, i’m thankful that you are neither the coach nor the GM of the Bears. It’s fans like you that keep the Tribune and the Score in business…..and i guess it’s fans like me as well when i call in and call you guys fucking morons.

        • Hank

          Disagree. McCown (who is not a great QB) is proving precisely my point. Bears have improved their receivers and O-Line (which is average at best) and a smart QB can navigate a decent offense. I wouldnt mind seeing Cutler and his nervous tick being exchanged for some value.

          Sincerely,
          McCaskey

          • Ghost of Waffle

            so, instead of letting the guy with all the talent, the physical skills, the arm, etc play with those new improved pieces we should just make McCown, a college qb or Jordan Palmer as the starting qb of the bears?? Jesus Hank.

          • Ghost of Waffle

            just fucking stop. i’m not getting into this. we have 20pts and you’re acting like you got your first blowjob.

      • Ghost of Waffle

        when you say stupid shit like “not a team player” it is fucking mind numbing. You have absolutely no clue the dynamics of the team in OTA’s, the preseason, the season it self, the post season or any fucking season unless your fucking name is secretly McCaskey, Trestman, Tucker, Dicamilis, etc.

        • Ghost of Waffle

          he needs to be running like a spaz all over the field like Favre? he can’t high five them on the sideline? it has to be on the field to satisfy you???

  • bearsfantillend

    WTF! dont try to strip him get him to the ground

  • Woottonsfirstsack

    Wait…did Steltz just make a play?

  • Ufficio

    Fuck, I told you we shouldn’t have knocked Ponder out.

    • Trac

      Welcome to 2013 Bears football. We can’t even put away a 2-8-1 team without much drama.

  • underway

    McCown just proved why there will be no QB controversy… WTF

  • Ufficio

    GO FUCK YOURSELF BOSTIC

  • Ghost of Waffle

    you can’t suck all game then make one play and get a fucking game changing penalty. fucking bostic.

  • underway

    fuck yeah!!!!!

  • Woottonsfirstsack

    The taunting rule was brought in by the girls in the league. Go get ’em Bostic!

  • Ghost of Waffle

    cut to commercial NOW, get that Amazon one in to get the extra revenue, ….what’s that ???? don’t worry about the gamechanging interception cut it NOW NOW NOW

  • Ufficio

    Well, that worked out pretty well for us.

    How did Greene get tackled by Cassell, though?

  • tobijohn

    Relieved to see the Vikings can screw up just like us…

  • underway

    3rd/4th and short play calling has been FUCKING AWEFUL this year…

    • SC Dave

      EXECUTION is what all plays are about.

      • Ghost of Waffle

        this is not grade school Dave. You can have perfect execution but if your center is outmatched and the play gets blown up then that’s what happens. Remember, execution goes both ways.

  • Ufficio

    Running Forte up the middle DOESN’T FUCKING WORK

  • Ghost of Waffle

    unreal mark

    • Woottonsfirstsack

      We could just go ahead and hand off to Minnesota instead of wasting time with a punt.

  • underway

    how many times do we have to fail to see that we cant just line up and get 1 yard… FUCK ME…

  • Shady

    Why does short yardage elude this offense?

  • Ghost of Waffle

    use your fucking TE, run to the edge, throw to the edge, just don’t continuously not get up the gut runs

  • Woottonsfirstsack

    Did Garza snap that to Cassell?

  • underway

    lets get off the field boys… I GUESS NOT…

  • tobijohn

    What a joke

    • Ufficio

      4th and 11… awesome!

      • Ufficio

        and we can’t convert 1 yard in 2 tries

  • Ufficio

    We deserve to lose this game.

  • underway

    my chest fuckin hurts…

    • Woottonsfirstsack

      I have the defibrilator app on my phone for just such an occasion.

  • DaMurph

    Are you fuckin kidding me?

  • Ghost of Waffle

    if you’re going to miss the playoffs you might as well do it this way. Bring on the controversy.

  • DaMurph

    If we can’t get a yard on two downs, and stop a 4 th and 11 and stop 20 yard pass plays by Matt Cassel, we don’t deserve to win.

  • Hank

    I said it many times before, but you dont deserve to win in the NFL if you cant get 1 yard. Bears had 2 chances at it. Ugh.

  • DaMurph

    Why didn’t we blitz on fourth and 11?

    • Ghost of Waffle

      because that’s how you put the boot on the neck and would make too much sense.

    • bearsfantillend

      especially blitz that close to the end zone

  • Ghost of Waffle

    this is sad and it’s on the D and it’s on the 6 fucking points in the first half and the inability to call short yardage plays or execute them.

  • Ufficio

    No way that was a catch though. And where’s my grounding? fucking refs.

  • Woottonsfirstsack

    I am thinking that a trip to the play offs would be an extremely embarrassing trip.

  • Woottonsfirstsack

    Pathetic

  • underway

    Hester you sneaky fucker… Just when I want to send your ass packing sand…

  • DaMurph

    Dammit Josh, throw it away!

  • Ghost of Waffle

    I know you’re the future of the franchise Josh you can’t take a sack there

    • SC Dave

      Good god, Waffle.

  • Ghost of Waffle

    throw a fucking slant, call a timeout and kick the fg

    • Hank

      No kidding. A good offense gives Robbie a viable chance.

  • DaMurph

    I’m tryin a 68 trader if it’s last resort

  • Ghost of Waffle

    how did that take 8 seconds

  • DaMurph

    65 yarder

  • Ufficio

    Just short.

  • DaMurph

    Good shot Robbie

  • underway

    man I thought that shit was good…. about 5 yards short….

  • Shady

    Is Marc Trestman this silly?

    • DaMurph

      Silly for trying?

      • Shady

        Did he not see the Iron Bowl last night? Throw the ball to Jeffrey and Marshall, don’t kick it to Patterson!

        • DaMurph

          If he let a college game influence his game decisions, he needs to go! I think it was a good call with 2 seconds left

  • Ufficio

    that was fucking offside.

  • underway

    THAT IS FUCKIN PETTY…

    • Ufficio

      Complete fucking horseshit. Fuck these refs.

    • DaMurph

      Such a bullshit call in an OT situation!

    • bearsfantillend

      if you are going to call that then you got to call the late hit flag they picked up

  • underway

    Podlesh has been money all day until we need it….

    • tobijohn

      The anti-clutch

  • tobijohn

    If we lose this one, even winning out with Cutler back probably won’t be enough…

  • DaMurph

    I just have a bad feeling

    • Shady

      It’s called losing a game you should have won.

      • Ufficio

        No, we definitely should have lost this one.

      • Woottonsfirstsack

        …which we have gotten pretty good at. More ammo for my thought that we do not want to go to the playoffs.

  • DaMurph

    Bullshit

  • DSupreme

    Welp game over….. FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • DaMurph

    How can it be a horse collar if you don’t bring him down?

  • underway

    unbelievable….

  • Big Mike

    Trestman fucked us with the 2nd and 1 and third and 1 call

  • DaMurph

    Holy crap

  • tobijohn

    Wouldn’t want to be that guy

  • Ghost of Waffle

    it’s not a goddamn horsecollar TACKLE if you don’t even tackle him and your hands are on the front and side of his shoulder pad. The is league, i swear if there was an alternative i just wouldn’t watch.

    • DaMurph

      It’s gettin rough Johnny

  • underway

    this is a horrible display of the game of Football. Neither Bears or VIKQueens fans should be satisfied with a win… this is the NFL.. not POP FUCKIN WARNER….. I am beside myself… rant over

  • Hank

    OMG

  • Shady

    bwahahahahah

  • DaMurph

    I can’t believe this

  • tobijohn

    This game has been entertaining but in a really really bad way…

    • Shady

      It’s like watching a wrestling match between grown men with child like limbs.

      • tobijohn

        Perfect analogy…

  • bearsfantillend

    holy shit! unbelievable

  • Hank

    10 more yards, come on BEARS!

  • Hank

    Game ball to Conte – for having his facemask held!

  • DaMurph

    Can we gain a yard?

    • tobijohn

      Of course not

      • tobijohn

        Well maybe we did

  • DaMurph

    Nope we cant

  • Ghost of Waffle

    This NFL product sucks.

    • DaMurph

      Only game in town though

  • Shady

    I believe in Robbie Gould, but that attempt from 66 was ridiculous.

    • DaMurph

      Didn’t miss by a ton, on any given day Shady

      • Shady

        More likely to have it blocked or returned for a TD. Throwing it up to Marsh and Jeffrey makes more sense to me.

  • Hank

    put the offense back out there and run the ball.

  • Ghost of Waffle

    our shitty D, inability to score and gain a yard aside:
    the petty calls on both teams is embarassing.

  • underway

    no fucking way

    • Big Mike

      Gaaaaaaaaaaa

  • Shady

    SMH really Robbie? woww

  • Hank

    DID I TELL YOU! FUGGLE MIUGGLE FABFUCK FUCK FUCK

  • DaMurph

    No good, really?

  • Ufficio

    Fire Trestman immediately.

    • Hank

      kicking on 2nd down? I was hoping the “play to not lose” mentality had left with Lovie.

      • Ufficio

        I know Robbie’s good, but a 47-yarder isn’t a chip shot.

  • DSupreme

    You gotta be fucking kidding me!

  • underway

    I cant stop laughing… HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…..

    • underway

      only thing to do beside CRY….. I am sad guys…

      • Shady

        Don’t worry, they’ll still get paid millions.

  • Big Mike

    Fuck

  • DaMurph

    I can’t take it

  • Ghost of Waffle

    i’m out.
    appropriate.
    Controversy.

  • Shady

    These teams aree soooo baddd.

  • Maddbearfan

    unbelievable……just unbelievable…..

  • underway

    arm tackling… when will we learn

  • Big Mike

    Shut up

  • DaMurph

    I’m out

  • Big Mike

    We deserve to lose

    • Shady

      Both teams deserved to lose.

      • underway

        I will always take a Bears WIN. Deserved or not… But I have to agree we did not deserve to win… BUt had that Gould FG split the uprights, I would have raised my stein in Victory…

        • Shady

          But now you raise it in defeat. Absolutely I’d take an undeserved win, but sometimes coaches use those wins to deflect legitimate criticisms.

          • underway

            True Shady…. Trestman doesn’t strike me as the guy that learns from his mistakes or even acknowledges he has made a coaching mistake. The 4th and 1 play calling comes to mind.

          • SC Dave

            Marc Trestman strikes me as a guy who believes in what he’s doing right or wrong and doesn’t give a shit about what fans on some blog might think.

    • Hank

      We really do. So sad it has come to this. Good teams put people away, we are not a good team. I continue to hate the lack of aggression on offense with a lead. Forte up the middle is a 0 gainer, we dont have the line for that.

  • Big Mike

    Turning in my gear for the year.

    • bearsfantillend

      can we say fair weather fan? its a disappointing loss but i will be geared up till the last game of the season!!!

      • Big Mike

        fuck you

        • bearsfantillend

          Thank you, but you basically said you were giving up by turning in your gear. man up!!

  • BerwynBomber

    Worst thing that happened to us was Ponder getting hurt.

    • tobijohn

      Yup, backup QBs always seem to beat the Bears

  • Shady

    Not that they played GREAT or anything, but what a waste of a solid defensive effort considering the circumstances. This team continues to struggle finding balance and consistency.

    • SC Dave

      No shit, Shady. While there is perhaps a little slack to cut the defense based on injuries (an effect which no doubt cascades to special teams), the inability of all three phases to come together is, in a word, frustrating.

  • Ghost of Waffle

    kicking on 2nd down simply cannot be defended. Trestman and his playcalling in short yardage, his decision making at the goal line and on 4th down and that call right there have cost us 3 games this year. THREE FUCKING GAMES.
    It’s not acceptable.

    • gpldan

      Yes, I need to agree here. It’s 2nd down. It’s a 47 yards. You run another O play. You go for the win with a TD until you have no option but to kick. But, in Trestman’s defense, it is Gould. THe announcers were blowing him as the best ever, and then he shanks it. Hard to think that happens.

      But still – the philosophy is you keep moving the ball.

      • Shady

        The Bears can’t run in short yardage situations. I don’t mind taking the FG there with Robbie instead of risking losing yards.

        • gpldan

          It’s 2nd down! Throw it. RIsk the pic then. But move the ball.

          • Shady

            No guarentee of yards, possible penalty situations. Just kick it and get out of there. Robbie missed it.

          • SC Dave

            With you here too, Shady. There would be no complaints had Robbie did what he almost always does. Make the big kick.

          • AlbertInTucson

            What’s to risk?

            Fake a dive, bootleg (is that even IN the Bear playbook anymore?) right, hit to a WIDE open receiver, scramble for yards or, if need be, throw it into the popcorn machine.

  • gpldan

    Ratliff + Paea back made for a big improvement in inside toughness. Bostic and Greene still play like rooks. Chicken Dinner didn’t set the edge on runs – ever.

    • tobijohn

      What are they gonna do with him?

      • Shady

        Linebacker has to be the last resort. That being said, he has knocked out two division rival QBs.

        • tobijohn

          Will that work with a 4/3?

          • gpldan

            No.

    • Big Mike

      Chicken dinner is a bust. The end shut up.

      • SC Dave

        Don’t care what a quitter thinks about it.

        1/2 🙂

  • bearsfantillend

    355 yrds passing and 135 running and only 20 pts is disappointing

  • Ghost of Waffle

    I cannot support a coach that is a direct reason that we lose 3 games. the D is putrid because of injuries.
    The offense has no excuse. Trestman has no excuse. He made the shitty calls that put us in position not to score points or get first downs.
    I cannot and will not support him.

    • gpldan

      #deathtocryptkeeper

    • Shady

      Well losing Cutler doesn’t help, but yeah they should have put more pts on the board.

    • SC Dave

      But you’ll support a QB who has lost more. smfh

      • Ghost of Waffle

        support a qb that has lost more what Dave? lost more games with no talent around him? no line? no coherent scheme?
        Jesus, admit right now what the Bears had over the last couple of years.

      • Ghost of Waffle

        he’s also got almost every fucking Bears record Dave, do you think we should let the guy fucking play with some talent for a while? he’s had nothing to work with and he’s still performed. Look at his record as a starter. Playing with shit. Damn right i’ll support him but if Lovie pulled the shit that Trestman has been pulling people would be fucking livid.

  • gpldan

    I also think for all the knowledge and experience the Crypt Keeper and Drago bring to running an O, it was pretty spent by the 2nd half everything was a retread of the 1st half plays, nothing the Vikes didn’t adjust for except the deep ball to Alshon.

    #deathtocryptkeeper

  • Maddbearfan

    It’s 2nd and 7 and you choose to kick a long field goal. Did Trestman not see how that worked for the Vikings. At least Lovie would have waited until 4th down, to try and get closer.
    I know”lets run Forte up the middle, which didn’t work last week either”

    • Big Mike

      He outsmarted himself

    • SC Dave

      Shit people. Robbie makes the kick (which was historically, what 85%+ chance?) and all’s well

      • Ghost of Waffle

        Dave, i was out of the room. I asked my brother in law how we got 0 yards on 2nd and 3rd down. He responded with an incredulous look….”they kicked a 47yd field goal on 2nd down”

      • Ghost of Waffle

        i wonder if statistically the odds go up of making the field goal if a 47yarder is now 41 or 39 or maybe 35 after a first down. Hmmm.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Sorry, folks.

      Indoors?

      In basically the middle of the field?

      That one is all on Gould and you KNOW he will be the first to say so.

      • Ghost of Waffle

        no doubt he makes that but to do it on 2nd down at 47yds is baffling.

  • gpldan

    Greene was one juke away from going the distance on his pick. THat would have ended it early.

    #deathtocryptkeeper

    • Shady

      How does the offense not come out with at least a FG there? You’re getting the ball at the 50!

      • gpldan

        2 plays up the middle with Forte that resulted in 0 yards.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Absolutely HATE the he was slowed enough by Cassel to then be caught from behind.

  • gpldan

    #returnofPEP trending now.

  • Shady

    “Accountability starts with me.”

    -Marc Trestman

    • gpldan

      Cue the music

    • Big Mike

      Trestman lost this game. No debate. 2nd and 1 dive, 3rd and 1 dive. Turrble play calls. 2nd and 1 is epically bad. Haven’t been able to pound the ball between the tackles all year. Trestman you blew it.

      • AlbertInTucson

        When was the last time a Bear QB ran a called bootleg on 3rd (or 4th) and short?

    • Maddbearfan

      right on brother..sister….whatever!

  • BerwynBomber

    One silver lining? We might have the best pair of WRs in the league right now.

    • Shady

      MIGHT? Of course they do.

    • bearsfantillend

      Might??? i cant think of any better.

      • BerwynBomber

        Well, I was leaving open the “Megatron and anyone else” argument. But yep: agreed. Marshall and Jeffrey are a two-headed monster for any opposing DC.

        • tobijohn

          Unfortunately, they can’t help much with stopping the opposition on third and fourth downs…

          • bearsfantillend

            the way Marshall and Jeffery block down field shows they are not afraid of contact. make them play both ways as our starting safeties. LMAO!

          • SC Dave

            especially 4th and 11s

  • tobijohn

    Perhaps I’m a slow learner or perhaps I’ve been naïve or maybe it was just plain wishful thinking. But it’s finally beginning to sink in that, with all factors both positive and negative factored in, this is a mediocre team..

    • Shady

      Yeah, we pretty much knew that. Mediocre teams can still make the playoffs though…

      • tobijohn

        Barring a meltdown by Detroit, Carolina, SF and either Philly or Dallas, it’s going to be very hard…

        • AlbertInTucson

          Forget wildcard. Bears must win out and hope the Lions remember they are the Lions.

          • tobijohn

            I’m afraid so. With their abysmal conference record, I don’t think 10-6 will get them a wild card this year…

  • Shady

    Robbie Gould’s wife gave birth at 1:30a Chicago time last night. He didn’t get to Minny until 6:30a. Fell one kick short of being the most accurate kicker in NFL history.

    • tobijohn

      Well then, they should have been going at it earlier in the year…

  • gpldan

    Saying “It’s the Lions division now” seems so wrong. Makes one want to vomit.

    • BerwynBomber

      I still think they have a choke or two left in them. Whether we can capitalize is another matter.

  • bearsfantillend

    pretty sure Jeffery just crossed 1000 yards for the season and Marshall just under 1000.

    • AlbertInTucson

      And I believe the last time the Bears had a PAIR of 1,000-yard receivers was…um…er…never?

      • bearsfantillend

        1995 Jeff Graham and Curtis Conway both had 1000+ yards in the same season, and Rashaan Salaam also had 1000 yards rushing that year.

  • gpldan

    Does picking Alshon in the 2nd make up for picking Chicken Dinner in the 1st?

    • Shady

      I’d say if you bat .500 or better with your 1st two picks you’re doing OK.

      • BerwynBomber

        Long seems decent thus far too.

    • Ufficio

      Yes, absolutely.

  • Shady

    Trestman seems to coach down to his competition.

    • gpldan

      #downgoesFrazier

  • CanadaBear

    What a pisser of a game. Trest outsmarts himself about a half dozen times/game. D came up small at the worst possible time. Refs are totally out to lunch. Usually Billick is OK. He seemed to be openly rooting for the BiQueens. Favorite comment of the day complements of Brennaman, “Can the Vikings pull off this shocker and upset the Bears?” Uh dude, the BiQueens were giving points today.

  • CanadaBear

    Unless the D comes around and Cutler plays lights out in the last 4 games, we’re done. The only win on the schedule is Cleveland and they have a good D. Philly is playing really well, the Cowgirls could put up 40+ on us and Rodgers will be back by the end of the season and we know how that goes. FUCK!

    • tobijohn

      If we’re lucky, we’ll somehow beat the Cowboys next Monday night, the Pack will lose one more without Rodgers and figure it isn’t worth the risk to have him play again in a lost season. Then all those reps that supposedly are the difference between an average player and a good player will finally start showing and Briggs will be back.
      No doubt about it, we HAVE to win out now. 9-7 is not going to cut it. Detroit might have a few clunkers left in them but a 9-7 finish for them means they win the NFCN…

      • BerwynBomber

        Yep, said it a few days ago but I think the Cheese would be crazy to bring back Rodgers at this point. They’re essentially 2.5 behind the Kittens with 4 to go. Btw, when is Briggs scheduled to return? Among all of our injuries, his hurt the most. He was having a Pro-Bowl type of year before going down. Btw, I like our schedule moving forward. Only Philly seems a stretch.

  • CanadaBear

    We were up by 10 midway through the 4th quarter and shit the bed. Against a 2-8-1 team. It was a well deserved loss. D went into the tank, Trest had a few brain cramps, Robbie wasn’t pure gold and it seemed like the refs just weren’t going to be denied. I thought the Bostic taunting penalty was borderline at best. The delay of game against Bushrod was complete bullshit. The Conte horsecollar was also borderline at best. I know this is the sign of a lousy team but it seems like every close call goes against us. I’m totally biased so maybe this is all bullshit.

  • tobijohn

    Judging them as a whole, there’s nothing dominant about this team. Thinking about it, add or subtract a couple of plays a game and they could just as easily be 10-2 or 1-11. Nothing profound here as I’m sure you could say that about most teams in the middle of the muddle..

    • CanadaBear

      Gotta agree. I assumed Trest would make some boneheaded rookie mistakes and cost us a couple of games. Well he has his 2 losses with 4 games to go. Not sure how he can be so creative and such a great play caller most of the time but can’t figure out we aren’t going to pick up a first down by going up the gut. After about 100 cracks at it this year you’d think he’d learn. He went totally conservative and played not to lose. Of course, you lose almost every time you do that. Trest goes into his prevent O and it works like a charm. FUCK!

  • ChiBears34

    Mel Tucker owns this loss more than anyone else.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Wrong.

      Compeletely wrong.

      4th quarter drive that goes 2nd and TWO, 3rd and ONE, 4th down have to punt. THAT’S what “owns” this loss.

      The offense could have / should have put this game away with the defense having given up only SEVENTEEN points and they couldn’t / didn’t.

      Worst thing the defense is did was knock Chrstian Ponder out of the game

      • 4th and 11.

        • AlbertInTucson

          True, yes, and why Wooten didn’t put his arms up when he was coming free up the middle right in Cassel’s face is a mystery to me, but it shouldn’t have even come to THAT.

          • 100%. offense left a whole lot out there. but still, 4th and 11. you’d like to think the D has enough pride to make a play.

    • Ghost of Waffle

      everyone knows the defense sucks because of catastrophic injuries. This is not ON them. They are a reason that there was a loss but our offense scored 6 fucking points in the first half and 20 for the entire game. That is some weak fucking bullshit right there including new and exciting Trestman fuckups.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Really.

        Vikings were allowing 32 a game going into today.

        32.

        The pass protection was excellent. Jeffrey was white hot. Forte had 90+ on the ground in regulation and there was even a bolt from the blue by Bush and all they can put up is 20.

        We all KNEW 20 would not win this game.

  • Ghost of Waffle

    Dear Coach Trestman:
    Watch a motherfucking Saints or Packers game to learn how to fucking throw short common sense passes to convert 3rd downs and on the goal line when your line cannot create any push for you. Watch the fucking coaches of those teams and the simple yet effective strategies they utilize and realize how fucking simple it is to get the fucking football into the hands of someone who is on average a half of a foot taller and who carries 25 to 45 lbs more of fucking muscle than the defender trying to cover them.
    You fucking cocksucking faggot, you have cost us 4 games with this bullshit.
    Sincerely,
    Someone who would like us to not piss away games because we can’t get a god damned yard when it counts.

    • NewBearInTown

      Have to think that’s part of the reason Marshall isn’t getting more catches. Trestman needs to trust him to beat his man and fight for the first down.

    • Ufficio

      Third and one, first drive of the game, short pass attempt to Marshall is nearly a pick-six because of a poor McCown throw.

      I mostly agree with you, but it’s not entirely Trestman’s fault.

      • Ghost of Waffle

        I completely agree that it’s not all his fault. He didn’t injure those defensive guys. He didn’t fuck up cutlers groin and ankle. This is a first year offense.
        He does, however, consistently make wrong decisions on short yardage and goal line situations.
        It’s about utilizing weapons and strategies that work for this team. I’ll make a brief list:
        Does Not Work:
        1. short yardage up the middle runs that require Garza to perform like a pro bowler.
        2. not kicking field goals for guaranteed points on the road.
        3. running up the middle when the defense can sell out (hint: like the fucking goal line)
        4. The elephant package with such clutch performers like Dante Rosario, Eben Britton, Michael Bush and Tony Fiammetta. How can you cover them all?
        Does Work:
        1. Running to the edge so your enormous WR’s and TE’s can block corners and LB’s.
        2. Screens with one of the best receiving RB’s in recent memory
        3. Playaction passes to your TE who is freakishly large and fast.
        4. Short passes to guys like Marshall and Jeffrey the league’s leading tandem of receivers.
        5. Bootlegs or moving the pocket or even a designed run by McCown to get out of the pocket to get a fucking yard.
        6. Fake dive to Fiammetta or Bush and a opposite side pitch to Forte
        It’s not complicated. By no means is it easy, its just not complicated. Trestman, while effective most of the time, has really made critical errors that would have really helped out our brutal and injured defense.
        Today, if you get that first down at the end of regulation you just win the fucking game with the ball in your hands. Trestman’s solution? 2 up the middle runs resulting in 0 yards and a punt.

        • Ghost of Waffle

          it’s 3 fucking feet you fucking piece of shit. you can’t call a fucking play that will get you 3 feet knowing that if you do you have playoff chances?
          Instead you fuck it up and put it in the hands of that defense?
          You can’t think of a fucking play to get 3 fucking feet knowing that your line can’t do it right now with an up the gut run? Fuck you then.

          • trestman didn’t shit the bed on a 4th and 11 play that would’ve sealed the win.

            not saying no to anything you’ve said up there, just saying that even the just-below-average teams will hold on a 4th and 11.

        • Trac

          Trestman doesn’t like turnovers, period, let alone in the red zone. I think his cautious play calling is a side effect of that strategy. Sooner or later, you gotta let your guys go out and win the game.

        • Ghost of Waffle

          who fucking voted down this post?

          • tobijohn

            It wasn’t me…

          • Ghost of Waffle

            the reason I ask is because I felt that I put forth some pretty compelling reasons why alot of people are frustrated with Trestman’s playcalling and personnel packages in short yardage, 3rd,4th downs and goal line situations. These decisions have left us several points short in multiple games where we knew going in the defense was going to suck. We needed that offense. We didn’t get it. There has to be a way to ascertain the reasons for not getting the needed production on offense.
            I think instead of using an anonymous thumbs down button it should be discussed.

          • tobijohn

            I agree on both points. And I’m curious why you can mouse over the thumbs up and see who agreed with you but can’t do the same with the thumbs down. What’s the harm in seeing who disagrees with you?

    • Ghost of Waffle

      too harsh?

  • Trac

    The Bears may finish 6-10, I can easily see them losing out now.

    • tobijohn

      If Rodgers doesn’t show up for the last game of the season, I can see no worse than 8-8. Especially if Cutler’s back. First year coach, a lot of injuries, he and his staff will get a mulligan. I’ll bet the 2014 Bears will pretty much have the same coaching staff…

    • Ghost of Waffle

      I know you guys think i’m a Cutler fanatic and that’s fine. I know what we’d be capable of with him and this offensive group in the future and this year without injury.
      I guarantee you this though. If he comes back we win at least 3 out of the next 4 which will make missing the playoffs due to 4 Trestman give away games this year even harder to stomach.

      • tobijohn

        Unfortunately for him, with the team in the state that it is, there isn’t much of a margin for error with coaching decisions. I’m pretty sure Ditka got away with some stupid stuff because he had talented teams that could bail him out…

      • Trac

        Hey Waffle, I’ve been one of your supporters here. I just gave you a hard time about second guessing some of the play calling a few weeks back. McCown doesn’t scare opposing defenses like Cutty does.

      • Trac

        I forgot about Cutty coming back. My Bad.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    Mind-numbing loss. The Washington game was like a punch to the gut, this loss is like a mule kicked my nuts. We’re effectively out of the playoffs folks, unless the Kitties implode like an old Vegas casino, or we go on some sort of crazy win streak.

    • SC Dave

      Do you really want to see this team in the playoffs? I’m undecided.

      • come on. chin up, buddy! we’re the league’s best team at drafting between spots 18-22!

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

        Once in the playoffs, who knows? Look at last year. Every team was scoring 40, so it’s not as if Ds mattered.

        But I don’t see us winning 10. Even with Cutler back, we don’t know how back he’s going to be. Will he still be throwing it with all arm so not to re-aggravate his groin? Will he not make those 3rd down runs like he usually does?

        I think we’ll be much more effective in the redzone with Cutty back because one thing I think he does better than McCown is throw those fades and back shoulder throws.

        Alas…I fear all is lost though. A lot of teams are going to be drafting QBs ahead of us, perhaps 4 – and Clowney will be gone, so we can move up like 5 spots just like that.

        But I’m not gonna start looking at the draft til Jan.

  • gpldan

    Bears were 2 for 11 on 3rd down. The OL was starting to get pushed around against a physically superior Vikes DL.

    But – even with ALL OF THAT – the Football 101 textbook says that you don’t kick the FG from the 47 on 2nd down with 6 minutes on the OT clock.

    It’s just not done. No other HC in the NFL makes that call. Not one.

    So, yeah, I’m beginning to question this new regime of Emery and Trestman. Who wouldn’t.

    • tobijohn

      Listening to Trestman’s logical and articulate answer to that question has me beginning to believe he’s just too clever for his own good. Cerebral is great but it has to be grounded in fundamentals…

      • unless his answer was, “matt forte fumbles on 94% of his carries and we just couldn’t take that risk,” i don’t want to hear it.

  • Ghost of Waffle

    The Bears’ offense piled up 480 yards, most this season, and got a franchise-record 249 of those from Alshon Jeffery’s 12 receptions, two for touchdowns.

    That offense that was amassing yardage but also was :
    1. 2-for-11 on third downs
    2. was forced to punt four times with the ball in Minnesota’s half of the field
    3. sustained none of eight second-half possessions longer than 3:37.
    Does anyone want to start venturing guesses why this happened? And “because the D sucks” is not the answer.

    • because mike tice cut tyler clutts?

      • tobijohn

        I’m pretty sure Tyler is sitting at home as we speak…

      • Ghost of Waffle

        lol, i still can’t believe they couldn’t keep that guy around. Got rid of him for E-Rod.
        Don’t get me wrong, I love Fiammetta…..just not going out on pass patterns to win the game when I have Marshall, Bennett, Jeffrey and Forte to choose from. (a la, Washington, Detroit and St. Louis)…all losses.

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