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Bears, Cutler Pull Away from Browns Late: A Recap of the Rapid Fire Variety

| December 16th, 2013

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Today’s post is dedicated to the memory of Peter O’Toole. For theatre folk, the O’Toole Hamlet is lore. That performance we all wish we saw.

Strange game. Nonsensical game. But these were my thoughts watching it live.

  • Jay Cutler was awful in the first half, prior to the final drive of the half. He made a poor decision on the first interception and a series of overthrows subsequently. But the way he regrouped and played late was a testament to his guts. It was impressive. And his honesty in the post-game presser was downright refreshing. I thought all week this was the most pressure-packed game of Cutler’s career. He played that way for thirty minutes. He was wonderful for the other thirty.

  • There were a few moments when I said aloud, “Atta boy, Bostic.” That seems to be a new thing.
  • I don’t know how well Tim Jennings played but Josh Gordon being a non-factor has to be credited to someone, right?
  • Where is the Bears pass rush? Why is Julius Peppers now the most feast or famine player in the sport?
  • I guess Devin Hester isn’t done, huh?
  • Or Michael Bush.
  • Does Mel Tucker have as little faith in Major Wright as the rest of us? It almost seems he’s being coached out of plays.
  • I don’t get the Bears insistence on a power running game. They do not have the physicality up front to manhandle opposing defensive lines. Yet they insist on calling plays as if they do.
  • Bears coverage units have improved dramatically.
  • So much ugliness associated with Sunday’s game. Pre-snap penalties were a joke. Holds on field goal attempt? Martellus Bennett fumbling for a touchdown. Bears did everything possible to lose Sunday. They deserved to lose. But their talent won. Phil Emery won.
  • Zack Bowman, ballhawk?
  • Alshon Jeffery is a superstar. His miraculous catches are no longer surprising.
  • Love the way Earl Bennett has worked his way into the offense over the last four weeks. He’s a perfect underneath compliment to the physical presence outside with Marshall and Jeffery. If the Bears could only add a Devin Hester-type, speed threat to the mix they’d be quite close to unstoppable.
  • Sure seemed Josh Gordon wasn’t interested in being hit.
  • What was Chris Conte thinking on the Gordon TD late? I’ll accept answers via email. The only thing he can’t do on that play is let Gordon behind him and he almost seemed thrilled to let Gordon go by.
  • When did the Bears stop being able to recover fumbles? It seems they force one a week that gets kicked around and recovered by the opponent. Lord.

All in all, a terrific win. And pressure moves squarely to Detroit tomorrow night.

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  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    !st in the Division, bitches!

    To be, or not to be in the playoffs, that is the question.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      This is a funny O’toole quote.

      “When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly realized I was talking to myself.”
      I also vaguely remember him wistfully replying why he’s not method, something along the lines of “Sir, it’s called ACTING.” though I’m too lazy to verify it.

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

        Perusing some O’toole quotes…”My own favorite is something called Rogue Male”

        He would have played a good Cutty.

  • Shady

    Waffle, you need to stay away from talk radio this week, mmkay?

    • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

      Things will work themselves out. I’m interested to see what Lambo does this week. Eagles are reeling

      • beninnorcal

        #6 is coming back next year. Mark it, dude.

  • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

    I love football man. Is it not the greatest soap opera in the world? So much pressure packed into one must win game.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      That’s why Badgers gotta take up smoking.

    • beninnorcal

      It’s been too much for me this year, outside of the Cowboys game and maybe Pittsburg every game has been decided in the final minutes. The worst was that last Minny game which appeared to have been won and lost about 12 times before we actually lost. One of these games I’m gonna have a coronary event.

      • ChrisCurmudgeon

        I had a serious fucking panic attack right before the start of this game. That’s the kind of season this has been.

  • EnderWiggin

    You guys talk Hamlet all ya want. I’m more of a High Spirits fan. O’Toole at his best.

  • MB30SD

    “What was Chris Conte thinking on the Gordon TD late? I’ll accept answers via email. The only thing he can’t do on that play is let Gordon behind him and he almost seemed thrilled to let Gordon go by.”

    I didn’t see the game again, as usual…. Can you please help me out on this one Dave?

    • beninnorcal

      Against a Bear prevent D, late in the game and down two TD’s, the Browns were at mid field. Gordon ran a fade route down the left sideline past Jennings who handed him off to Conte who came from the top. Conte appeared to be diving at the ball but took a bad angle(I know, right) and Gordon went straight past him making an easy catch and cruised into the endzone with 59 seconds left. Onside was secured by Mr. Marshall FTW.

      • MB30SD

        thanks ben.

        I was being more of a smart ass to dave, who knows how much I hate conte.

        • beninnorcal

          Ah, I read several times that you’ve missed many a Bear game to spend time with the kids, which I thought was pretty cool considering how much you love the Bears. Way to put things in perspective, MB. And happy holidays.

          • MB30SD

            And to you sir

    • Big Mike

      He did what he does. http://t.co/VohO494LaM

    • Saren Arterius

      Somehow, PFF graded Conte as the best defensive player yesterday. I guess he actually did a solid job in run support today although it’s not like Captain Checkdown Campbell was really testing him.

  • NewBearInTown

    Speed Receiver in the 5th round isn’t Hester, its Knox.

    Here’s my best find upon a short search of 2014 prospects. Has the legs, but still a bit bigger than the prototypical “speed guy,” which I think Emery will prefer.

    Christion Jones, Alabama, 5-11 185.

    • MB30SD

      please god no.

      Defense in Rds 1,2,3,5,6,7 (you know, depending on available talent at that pick)

      • NewBearInTown

        So… round 4 then?

        • MB30SD

          you are the expert NB. You saw my needs list a few threads ago. We seriously need all new safeties (keep peanut and timmyj if we can) and maybe add another corner later if a good deal avails itself

          We also need to pull together about 3 new dlinemen if we get collins and melt back cheaply. Maybe pick up a known A+ MLB in FA. Everything else is icing (yes, we need a center most desperately on O if you ask me)

          • NewBearInTown

            DJ Williams will probably be the MLB. I think Bostic has shown enough this year that we keep him on to develop. If he continues to grow in understanding offenses, learns to avoid the stupid penalties and improves his run support… he’s got a lot of potential. You don’t want to squash that with an expensive FA pickup. Williams will stay for a couple million. That’s the way to go.
            With Anderson, Williams, Briggs and Bostic, we’ve got the base for our LB group. Everyone else is depth, so we can let the players come to us in FA and the draft rather than overpaying.

          • MB30SD

            i felt exactly the same way until DJ couldn’t stay on the field.. if you remember I was a big fan initially. If he can stay healthy I think he’s a great option with bostic backing him up.

            I also like our OLB depth, I guess I’m just a bit spooked by the horrible injuries this year. If we go critical picks only it’s pretty much all safeties/dbs and dline. and maybe a center. the rest is gravy.

            Most important pick up this coming off season in my mind… a seriously excellent aggressive creative DC

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            Yeah, I’m always a little suspicious of athelete’s whose bodies break down after being caught on PEDs (see Merriman).

            I still think if a Kiko Alonso type LB drops to us in the 2nd, we swoop in.

            I’m not entirely sole on Greene, and Bostic can always move over.

          • Big Mike

            Anderson is not impressing me. I have doubts about him.

          • Big Mike

            Melton may not be the same. The new guy Ratliffe might be a keeper. Safety and DT. Safety and DT. Safety and DT. Speed guy is a luxury. Safety and DT are not.

      • Ufficio

        So we take a center in the 4th round? Or do we not have a 4th rounder this year?

        • Irish Sweetness

          As soon as somebody in the AFC overpays us we’ll have another two firsts anyway. Do you spend the cash on JJ Watt or make a move on Michael Bennett?
          Either one of those guys in the middle makes us a different defense.

          I know it’d be nice to have Cutty AND McCown, but the D isn’t getting fixed that way.

          What would you do with three first round picks? Isn’t that a wet dream? That’s a DE, DT and top safety/CB straight off the bat. We could trade down … we could finish off that roster, polish it and have it deep. Maybe we grab a QB in rd 1?

          Does Emery have the balls to cash our chips in on Cutler?

          That was a fun game to watch but can anyone see the Giants knocking off the Lions in Motown ….?

          • Maddbearfan

            As if!

          • Big Mike

            I see the Bears keeping both QBs. I also see them going with Garza one more year. My guess is that Bears will spend 5 picks on D and 2 on offense. Rounds 1 and 2 will be on D. I think they will go Safety in 1, DT in 2. Speed guy in 3. Back to DT and Safety in RD 4-5 and RD 6-7 OL/DT.

          • Still a Doug Plank Fan

            Giants vs. Lions in Motown….Jeff tweeted right: Coughlin deserves more respect than he’s getting from his locker room. But no, the Lions are going to demolish Eli.

      • NewBearInTown

        I’m fighting the urge to get into the draft until the season is over. And since we’re still in the Superbowl race, that could be a while.
        But I agree we need a defense heavy draft. I suspect we’ll see one OL and one late round WR/RB/TE pickup (maybe 2). There will be 3-5 defensive picks depending on trades and such. I see our first rounder going to the D-line. Right now Rashad Hagemon looks like a decent pickup, but we might be more needy at DE than DT depending on how things go. I also love Kyle Fuller (CB, V Tech) – he might be a good pickup at the top of the second round the same way we moved up for Paea and Jeffery.

        • MB30SD

          this is the stuff I was hoping to see from you… it’s never too early for good intel!

        • Still a Doug Plank Fan

          Why an OL pickup? What am I missing? Or are you talking late round for that one too? I don’t get the WR pickup either.

      • Johnathan Wood

        they need a C on offense, possibly a backup TE, maybe a QB to develop.
        But none of those should come before round 3 at the earliest.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      What do we do with Wilson though?

      • NewBearInTown

        The 7th round pick that has 3 yards this season?
        Dunno… keep him for competition I guess.
        But in all seriousness, he’s not a speed guy. He’s another tall jump ball guy we are hoping to develop like we did Alshon. He needed to bulk up (I imagine playing specials is helping that) and learn the pro game. He’ll come back next year and compete for a spot. Most 7th rounders don’t make the team though, so I doubt he’ll seriously affect our draft plans.

        • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

          I don’t think he’ll affect it too much, but he’s an intriguing prospect. We’ll be looking for a Swop like prospect, but Earl is a reliable though not explosive slot.

          I definitely think we’re going to draft Dline/safety in the first 3 rounds.

          • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

            I see Earl being a Bear for a long time. There is no reason to let an inexpensive and proven commodity walk for a slightly cheaper unproven college player.

          • Scharfinator

            I agree. Earl plays WR, KR, and is our emergency QB. I see him staying… especially if we cut Devin and Earl gets to run back kicks too.

          • bearsfantillend

            I agree. Also Earl’s speed is underrated. I think it was last year he caught a WR screen pass and took it for a 50-60 yard touchdown and we were all shocked by how fast he really is or appeared.

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            What I like about Earl, well a few things.

            1. He’s fearless in the slot. Sometimes this is bad cuz it tends to get him inj, but I’ve never seen him do what Gordon did Sunday, and pull up.

            2. He’s cheap now.

            3. He’s got GREAT hands which is handy especially when he’s gotta catch it in between long dry spells. Some WRs need a few targets to get going, not Earl.

            4. He’s a team player and doesn’t bitch, which is refreshing for WRs.

            5. As mentioned, the Pearl’s versatile. Slot, outside, screens, KR/PR backup QB.

          • Johnathan Wood

            Earl is due $2.5M next year. That’s not cheap for a WR3. He might stick, but I’ll bet Emery tries to get him to take a pay cut again (in exchange for guaranteed $$, which he has none of left)

      • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

        Emery already laid out the plan for Wilson. They are tickled pink that they got Wilson in the 7th round because of that whole college quitting incident. Emery specifically said the plan is to put 10+lbs of muscle on him and develop him. They couldn’t risk putting him on the practice squad in the meantime.

      • Big Mike

        I forgot about him. Brandon Marshall has had good things to say about Marques(sp) Wilson. Something like ‘he is extremely fast, has good hands, but needs to get an NFL sized body.. very raw’. Is that the take?

        • Saren Arterius

          Yes basically. Needs to get stronger to face NFL press coverage and block. Otherwise very talented, capable of big things.

    • Johnathan Wood

      I still think Wilson is gonna work out with Jeffery and Marshall in MIA this offseason, put on some muscle, and be ready to ball next year.

  • NewBearInTown

    As to this game. Cutler is a lot like Andrew Luck right now. They both have massive upside that comes out at the end of games, but they aren’t putting 4 quarters together (sort of the anti-Romo).
    Difference is age. Cutler is about 5 years further along than Luck. He needs to put together complete games if he wants to justify a big contract.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      Andrew Luck doesn’t throw redzone INTs from what I’ve seen. He also doesn’t have an Oline or Alshon or Marshall or Forte.

      I get what you’re saying – they both have a knack for dramatic comebacks, but Cutler often gets himself in a hole, while Luck’s weapons and Oline do them in early. I’m also not sold on their OC Pepp Hamilton, but that’s for another comment.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    Steelers just did us a solid. If the Ravens win out the last 3 games, they’re the AFCN champs.

    You know the Ravens are gonna come to play on MNF, hopefully they shut down Mega and make Stafford beat them with the leftovers.

    • Big Mike

      I see Baltimore beating Gym Shorts.

    • Johnathan Wood

      their D is built for a team like DET. One shutdown CB who can take your top WR out of the game. Great front 7 that can stop the run and harass the QB into making boneheaded throws.

  • BerwynBomber

    Cutler rebounded well in the second half but the toss to Alshon was pure wounded duck/prayer. In fairness, at 3rd and 11 it would have been no worse than a punt but that whole drive was more about Cleveland self-destructing than us doing anything special (well, other than Alson’s catch). Sooner or later, a decent team will put their foot on our neck and not let us up.
    Saw the Girls completely gagged, which could assure that we face Rodgers in W17. Oh well. Onto Philly.

    • johnnywad

      It was the right throw. 3rd and 11 with the pocket nearly collapsed and as you said, no worse than a punt if picked. That is the exact reason you want 6′-3″ receivers. The way Alshon has been catching the ball, you have to give him that chance.

    • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

      any thoughts on the 2nd and 11 beautiful pass down the middle that bounced off of Marshall’s facemask at the goal line? Was that also a prayer? Would it be a prayer if it was the same pass but just on the left side and somehow caught by Alshon in a previous game? Or is THAT good quarterback play and a young stud receiver stepping up? God damn it , your guys shit is getting tiresome.

      • Scharfinator

        Are you talking about that first INT that was behind Marshall?

        Or is there another play I’m not remembering?

        • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

          it was the play right before the Alshon bomb. 2nd and 11 and Marshall had the step on two guys deep across the middle. He went up to get it and the ball went through his hands and bounced off his face/shoulder pad. It was not an easy slam dunk wide open catch opportunity but then again, the other guys get paid too right?
          My point with the Bomber is that you can’t put the credit on a quarterback in one scenario and then say another quarterback is lucky and was bailed out. Technically they are both bail out situations but there is a huge difference when one year you’re asking Johnny Knox or Hester to do it and another year when you’re asking Marshall and Jeffrey.
          We can all agree that having that kind of WR talent makes any quarterback look better. That is just the nature of football and why calling someone “elite” is bullshit. You aren’t shit without your teammates and their own abilities to win their matchups. You aren’t shit unless you have a coherent scheme and coaching to counteract the other teams scheme and coaching.
          I’m glad we have 2 qbs, top of the line WR’s and TE/RB, a decent line, a coherent and creative scheme and a plan for the future. We’ve never fucking had any of those before on offense over the last 4 years…at least not at the same time and it’s about fucking time.

          • Still a Doug Plank Fan

            Please be assured I’m choking when I say this, but Michael Irvin (ugh/choke/spit)summed up your excellent post yesterday: “It takes a Football Family to win championships”. I thought that was good, but I wish you’d said it first so I could ignore Irvin.

      • Johnathan Wood

        that pass was underthrown by about 5 yards. Put it in front of him into the end zone and it’s an easy TD.

    • Jokey

      Roughing the passer on that play, so no pick possible.

  • Trac

    Tonight is huge. If the pussy cats lose, can we win out? What a wonderful story line on the horizon.

  • johnnywad

    Let me see here. Schwartz/Stafford vs. Harbaugh/Flacco in a must win game? Ravens please.

  • Saren Arterius

    According to a significant number of Bears fans, touchdowns “don’t count” when it’s a spectacular catch caught by Jeffery and thrown from Cutler, but they do count when thrown by McCown.

    • Viva

      Noted.

    • AlbertInTucson

      That was even MORE spectacular because Cutler had to throw it 50 yards in the air thru a swirling wind.

      • Saren Arterius

        While being hit from behind hence the underthrow (had it been intercepted, it wouldn’t have counted b/c of the roughing-the-passer call anyway)

  • Viva

    Positive trend: Lions have not won 3 straight all year. Negative trend: Ravens suck on the road (1-5).

    • Saren Arterius

      In the last couple of years, this is the time of year when Flacco gets hot

    • Big Mike

      Ravens are due. They are starting to put it together.

  • Viva

    FUCK GYM SHORTS!

  • Viva

    We all know Urlacher has contacts inside the locker room and a bone to pick with Cutty, so I am not surprised that Fox (Jay Glaser) ran with the “not everyone on the roster on board with Cutler” story.

    BUT IN THE EVENT 54 IS READING THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL HIM TO GO FUCK HIMSELF.

    • Saren Arterius

      Fox = “sources” = Brian Urlacher = anonymous defensive players Urlacher still talks to = people who really have no right to have an opinion on the topic. Focus on giving up less than 30 points per game, then you can have an opinion.

      For what it’s worth, Haugh wrote an article saying pretty much the opposite.

      • Bender McLugh

        Lach still talks/texts with Briggs, that’s my guess.

        • MB30SD

          you mean th guy who hasn’t played in almost 2 months

  • Big Mike

    http://t.co/VohO494LaM Conte being Conte

    • Shady

      To paraphrase Waffle:

      “You had ONE job.”

      • MB30SD

        mike, please submit your pic to this site: http://hadonejob.com/

        • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

          haha

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      Don’t be too hard on Conte. I started Gordon in FF, and my teams have moved on to the FF SB round due partially to his utter ineptitude.

      Thanks, Conte for doing me a solid.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Happy trails Peter O’Toole.

    My Favorite O’Toole Line: As King Henry II in BECKETT, watch as his nobles fail to arrest Thomas: “It’s TOO funny! He’s made mincemeat of them! BECKETT is the only INTELLIGENT man in my kingdom, and HE’S against me!”

    Great scene although his turn as THE LION IN WINTER is even better in a better movie.

    • Jokey

      Beckett is so great. Gotta re-watch that one. Paired with Richard Burton.

  • AlbertInTucson

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    • gpldan

      Genius does not have an off switch.

  • MB30SD
  • Ufficio

    Cutler on 3rd down: 11 for 12 for 152 yards.

    • Shady

      Clutchler. Watching the game I actually felt more confident on 3rd downs than 1st or 2nd downs. Unfamiliar feeling unless you’re a Donks, Pats or Saints fan I guess. I liked it and want more of it.

    • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

      I was wondering why CSN had Cutler as 9/12 on 3rd down conversions and the answer was ironic. They don’t count TD’s as a “conversion”. Boom.

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD
    • Shady

      You guys still going to the Bears/Packers game?

      • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

        my buddy who was getting tickets through his girlfriend broke up with said girlfriend and my tickets have now vanished.

        • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

          I asked him why he couldn’t wait until after the GB game.

          • MB30SD

            bitches

          • Shady

            Probably didn’t want to have to buy her anything for the holidays.

      • MB30SD

        naw, can’t swing it this year. too much critical shit on the line at work… and have to go visit the folks in SA in Jan, so… next year hopefully (on our way to the SB)

        • Shady

          Booourns.

          • MB30SD

            what the hell is this?!

          • Shady
          • MB30SD

            Ahhhh…

            Yes, I agree. I was looking forward to it myself… you know, so that you could show up for like 5 minutes and not buy me another beer.

          • Shady

            I had it planned and everything.

  • MB30SD

    if you guys have some time. It’s good: http://on.ted.com/Varty

  • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

    Ok, anyone that advised me to stay off talk radio this week need not worry. This morning on The Score I was given that gift by a caller who said this:

    I was happy I won I guess but I’m disgusted that Cutler and Marshall continue to conspire to keep Jeffrey out of the offense. Cutler won’t spread the ball around.

    That really fucking happened. Here are some basic numbers on receptions/attempts:

    Brandon Marshall 6/13
    Alshon Jeffery 5/5
    Martellus Bennett 6/6
    Earl Bennett 4/4
    Matt Forte1/3

    • Shady

      Don’t do it Waffle, keep the dial tuned to classical or smooth jazz.

      • MB30SD

        kenny g is so fabulous for stressful times…. isn’t he… shady.

    • Saren Arterius

      I ask those people if they remember who the quarterback was for Jeffery’s first 200-yard game?

      Why people want Cutler to force throws to Jeffery I can’t really figure out. Jeffery isn’t a relatively unknown rookie anymore, he draws double coverage now and sometimes it leaves Marshall wide open. Especially considering Cutler’s perfect 158.3 rating on 3rd down, why in the fuck would Cutler not throw to Marshall when he’s open?

    • Johnathan Wood

      11 of Cutler’s first 20 attempts were to Marshall.
      2 of his last 10 were.

      You tell me which ones were more effective. He definitely looked to Marshall too much early. With that said, Marshall was open pretty much every time he was targeted. I don’t know what Joe Haden was doing yesterday, but he couldn’t handle Marshall. Would have been a much bigger day if Cutler hadn’t sailed every single pass in the second quarter.

  • Sactowns#1

    I was waiting for Jay to take the underneath that the Browns were offering up all day. 3 pass attempts to Forte? And yeah that game was nerve wracking.

  • Saren Arterius

    Anyone remember when Earl Bennett was the best blocking WR on the team? He’s probably 3rd best now. That happens when you get the best blocking WR in the NFL (by far) in Marshall and then you add Jeffery. Bennett is still an outstanding blocker and had a couple of pivotal ones.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    Briggs is most likely coming back.

    Never thought I would be that excited to have Briggs back, but it’s like having sex with your wife. You sorta get bored after a few years, but when you don’t get it, boy you want it baaad.

    • Maddbearfan

      Whats sex?

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    There’s gotta be a way to fuse Cutler-McCown.

    Yesterday I typed as the game was going, “Cutler must do what McCown couldn’t do vs Vikes and Rams – score in the redzone and convert important 3rd downs”

    That Alshon hail-mary was vintage. McCown might not have the arm to make that throw, and he DEFINITELY doesn’t have the mentality (for better or worse).

    BUT, that same Jay Mentality makes Cutler maybe trust his WRs TOO much, that jump ball to Bmarsh that got INT is vintage Cutler too, a throw that McCown probably just checks down to Forte or Bennett.

    Hopefully, it was just rust, and working through the groin/ankle.
    I still find it hard to believe that Cutler is recovered fully from the groin, and he looked to get up a bit gingerly at times.

    We’re going to need good Jay for the birds, that’s for sure.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    By the laws of transitive properties…

    Yo, GB, even if Rodgers is healthy – RIDE THE HOT HAND. Gotta ride in-like-Flynn!

    • Maddbearfan

      And here’s the real question: Rodgers shoulder was obviously a lot worse than they let on so do you take a chance on him getting rehurt again. I say sit him till 2015 just to be sure it’s healed…right?

      • MB30SD

        makes no difference if the lions win the rest of their games… but let’s hope so just in case

    • Still a Doug Plank Fan

      Laughing like hell. Good toss!

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    You know, we need a DT badly this year, but next year Ratliff/Melton/Paea might not be too shabby.

    • Viva

      A great 3 tech makes every other defensive position on the field easier to play. I don’t know how we can afford Melton. The best ($) way to go may be the draft if PE thinks there is a guy worthy.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        I don’t know that the price tag on Melton will be all that high thanks to missing in essence the entire year with the blown ACL. That should shave some dollars off his asking price.

      • Johnathan Wood

        keep your eye on Hegaman, the kid from MIN. He fits that bill, and is bigger so should be better against the run.

        But Melton could be back on a one-year prove it deal.

    • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

      unfortunately Ratliff is going to be convinced that he needs “healthy Ratliff” money. he’ll be gone.

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

        You might be right. Right now it’s a marriage of convenience – we need a DT, he needs a decent team to show his skills. But he’s in his 30s, so not sure how much he would garner in the open market.

        Hopefully, he forms a bond with our boys and wants to stay for a reasonable price.

        We still gotta draft a DT regardless, but if we can re-sign the Rat, that could give us more liberty draft day.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    Biggsy’s 10 thoughts column is prob the only one I read after games.

    “The statistics back up Bowman. Since 2005, the Bears are 26-2 in games
    in which they have a defensive touchdown. They have won the last 12
    games in which a defensive player has reached the end zone.”

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-brad-biggs-10-thoughts-chicago-bears-20131216,0,3658118.story?page=2&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20chicagotribune%2Fviews%20%28chicagotribune.com%20-%20Most%20Viewed%20Stories%29&utm_source=feedburner&track=rss

    Bowman has really stepped up. His issue has always been consistency though, so let’s keep our fingers crossed that something finally permanently clicked.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      in the same article…interesting take on the ‘speed’ slot guy philosophy. Also might affect the Britton package.

      “on Sept. 2 was for a conditional seventh-round draft pick. Typically,
      conditions are based on the number of games the player is on the active
      46-man game-day roster. Rosario appeared in his 13th game with the Bears
      on Sunday and while I don’t know the specific terms of the deal, an NFL
      source said the Rosario has reached the threshold so the seventh-round
      pick now officially belongs to the Cowboys.

      Rosario’s playing
      time has increased in recent weeks. He’s spelling Martellus Bennett on
      occasion and working in the two tight end packages. He’s been solid as a
      blocker and that was a position where the team really lacked depth,
      even in training camp. Some people talk about the need for a vertical
      threat to complete the offense, a speed receiver that can stretch the
      field. Ultimately, I think a diverse tight end that could be developed
      might be more important. Those are matters for the offseason. Right now,
      the Bears are getting quality use out of Rosario.”

    • Johnathan Wood

      Bowman plays soft in coverage, gives up stuff underneath far too easily, and waits to capitalize on a QB mistake.

      It works against the Jason Campbells of the world, but the Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Mannings will take the underneath stuff and kill you with it. Remember Bowman against GB on Christmas 2011? Week 17 is coming.

  • gpldan

    If the Lesbian gets cracked by the Ravens, I win my FF game. So please – I know it’s not hard – root root root for a Lesbian concussion.

    • gpldan

      Also, Lesbian Concussion is playing the double door this weekend, so it’s fate.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      I’m assuming this is the league where you started the studs QB Clemens and HB Obonnaya?

      Maybe I’m mistaken, but didn’t the computer auto-draft for you? Maybe I’m thinking about someone else.

      I’m on your boat though. DY needs Mega to score 63 points, which is not out of the realm of possibility in Shady’s league.

      • gpldan

        Yes, this is Shady’s autodraft-because-Shady-decided-he-free when nobody else was league. I think it’s a credit to me that I kept plugging away at it instead of just rage-quitting.

        • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

          That’s pretty impressive.

          If I pull a hat-trick and win in all 3 FF leagues this year – Irish’s, Shady’s and Artoo’s (already advanced to the finals in Irish’s and Artoo’s), maybe I’ll pull a GP and see if I can win through auto-drafting.

          Only thing is, I hate having Lions, Vikes and esp Packers on my team. I’ll take them, but I won’t like it.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    “#3 of 10. Why would anyone be surprised Tony Romo threw a game-blowing
    pick? But why would Jason Garrett ALLOW him to throw that pass?” Jeff Tweet

    Garrett DIDN’T allow it. Romo audibled into it. It was originally a run, which was why Murray threw a fit.

    However, Garrett had to be the one who got away from the run game even though the Cowboys were avg like 10 yds per carry.

  • Sactowns#1

    Can someone please explain to me the “false start” penalty on Alshon yesterday? I didnt know a receiver wasnt allowed to go into motion.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      Didn’t make sense to me either. (I thought it was Marshall?) – anyhow, he moved a little odd, maybe they thought he was simulating the snap? They call those on linemen, but maybe the refs just fucked up.

    • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

      based on the rule book it was not a penalty because he didn’t move forward, he started coming in motion and stopped. It was a referee error and even the announcers knew it.

      • Sactowns#1

        A potentially very costly fck up by the refs.

        • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

          yes, there will be a quiet “we’re sorry” letter sent to Halas Hall this week after it’s reviewed.

          • Cutty Badger don’t give a fuck

            you know they were going to do that fake alshon then give to Forte which average like 10 fucking yards a run yesterday.

  • MB30SD

    I would like to submit another piece of evidence into the Jay vs. Romo discussion file. We can call this one, article #184.

    Jay does not have articles witten (see how I did that) about him with titles like, “Tony Romo’s 10 Most Heartbreaking Losses”

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000299491/article/tony-romos-10-most-heartbreaking-losses

  • Johnathan Wood

    “I don’t know how well Tim Jennings played but Josh Gordon being a non-factor has to be credited to someone, right?”

    Yep. Jason Campbell. Jennings played pretty well, but Campbell missed him wide open at least 3-4 times.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    While on FF relevant to Bears…Jaamal Charles that caaaacksucker blew up for 90 POINTS in Shady’s league. FF experts say that it’s a top 5 FF performance since the inception of the T-formation. Holy shiite.

    #1? Yours truly, Gale Sayers.

    DYL had him going against me AND Fitzpatrick who decided to turn into Marino and scored a whopping 94. Good lord.

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