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Baltimore Ravens at Chicago Bears Game Chat

| November 17th, 2013

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Struggled with a stomach virus this week so the content was a bit lighter than usual. Three final thoughts on today’s game:

  1. It would be hard to make an argument for the Bears 2013 postseason hopes should they lose at home today. Even though the game has no tiebreaker implications, they can’t fall deeper below the Lions in the division or the Niners/Panthers in the wild card race and expect to make up ground on the road over the next month plus.
  2. What if Josh McCown puts together another four brilliant quarters executing the offense? What if the sample size grows from six quarters to ten quarters and a nearly game-saving drive against the Lions? At what point does the conversation switch from “this guy really is a good caretaker of the offense” to “this guy really runs the offense well” or even “maybe this is how the offense should look”? Nobody has been as big a Cutler supporter as myself over the years but at a certain point data is data.
  3. If the Bears defense can’t win a match-up like this at home – no run game, turnover-prone/flaky passing game, punt heavy offense – they have very little shot to win the battles coming further down the schedule. I have three expectations from the defense today. (1) Jon Bostic continues to evolve into the Bears future middle linebacker. (2) Zack Bowman plays a few solid quarters at corner before, of course, getting hurt. (3) Torrey Smith is limited over the top by a resurgent Chris Conte.

 


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  • MB30SD

    Ravens……

    DEAD!

  • Ghost of Waffle

    I dont want 50mph winds and rain to impact the Wildcard race. All of our wildcard competition are playing today in games that they can lose.
    Ravens dead. Marshall, Jeffrey and Forte will have good games.’ Short passes and YAC.

  • Maddbearfan

    Storms are picking up…hope they get the game in but I’m not gonna hold my breath!

  • Ghost of Waffle

    Brad Biggs@BradBiggs

    #Ravens list DT Haloti Ngata inactive for today

    • BerwynBomber

      Huge loss in more ways than one. Dude’s an animal.

  • Maddbearfan

    All hell is breaking loose 60 mi. SW of Chicago..strong winds and heavy rain with hail..headed for Chicago

    • Cormonster

      I hope the heavy stuff stays north. My old man drove about 330 miles to go to the game with his brother. Bear down!

  • gpldan

    The entire city of Baltimore smells like rotten crab meat and old shoes.

    That is all.

    • Cormonster

      I used to occasionally listen to PFW with Hub and Wayne Larivee on Sunday mornings in the 7-9am time slots. Now it’s on at 5 on the Score and dropped from my local sports stations. What a drop off.

    • CanadaBear

      Sure is a fun place to visit. Home of John Waters and David Byrne.

  • Big Mike
  • Doc Nitty

    Bearing Down

  • ghost of waffle

    anyone else disappointed that Trestman decided to defer to the 2nd half allowed Baltimore to take the direction with the wind and spot them fucking 10 fucking points? did anyone even fucking notice or are you too worried about Cutlers demeanor and red zone turnovers in 2009?

    • BerwynBomber

      Not really. It’s a pay me now or pay me later decision. We get the ball in the second half, and I believe, we get the wind at our back in the fourth. For the record, I still worry about Cutler’s red zone turnovers. He has, I believe, three already this year.

      • ghost of waffle

        maybe they should have covered the field…….

        • BerwynBomber

          Yeah, though I wonder if a slow track might help us more. They have two legit burners in Jones and Smith and we only have one in Hester and he no longer plays O. Not that I want to see DH lining up in the slot again.

      • johnnywad

        What game are you two watching? The Ravens kicked to us to start the game. Johnny I can only assume you’re referring to the play calling as a defacto deferral

        • BerwynBomber

          My bad. I meant wind in the fourth. Though how much of it remains could be questionable.

    • Trac

      I hear you buddy. All the arm chair qb’s are gonna be mighty disappointed when the real Josh McCown returns. Cutty got a raw deal from his own fans in the Lions game.

      • SC Dave

        You mean the Josh McCown that we saw today? The one that found a way to get it done?

        • Trac

          Pedestrian numbers Dave. Take away the pic 6 and we lose. Don’t get me wrong, I am very glad that he has managed the games well so there is that. No way he comes close to keeping us in a game against a team like the Saints or Seattle.

  • gpldan

    While the field evacuates, maybe we could regroup and get our shit together.

  • BerwynBomber

    Thought we caught a little break on the Jeffrey play: that looked like a fumble. Gould-like kick from Balt’s FG kicker. Figured this would be the game the McCown magic might dry up a bit but a long ways to go. Kittens are getting spanked. Figured they’d lose. Cheese should go down today too.

    • SC Dave

      Not really Gould-like… note how the wind just stopped for that kick. Little streamers on the goal posts limp as Obama’s health care excuses

  • gpldan

    CBS showed the Field shot. Rain is coming down in buckets. Swamp game should ensue.

  • Trac

    Sounds like the weather gave the Bears a much needed time out.

  • Trac

    Pittsburg is beating the pussy cats 17-10 so at least there is that. he he.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    wow. The ONE game where McCown might be a downgrade (due to his inferior arm) and of course there’s tornado like conditions. Maybe this just isn’t our year.

    • Trac

      So except for weather conditions, you think McCown is an upgrade over Cutty?

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

        I don’t think he’s an upgrade, but he’s proven he can move the ball as well as Cutler in his previous appearances.

        The one big concern/downgrade with him was his arm strength, which I’ve said is needed in the playoffs.

        I definitely think McCown can win some games in the regular season when the CBs aren’t allowed to mug the WRs, but when it’s really windy – that makes his arm a bigger issue.

        For me, Cutler and McCown have looked about even this year.

        That can be taken as a positive (Trestman genius, system, talent, etc) or as a negative (Cutler shouldn’t be equaled by a journeyman). Might be a little of both. Jury is still out.

        This game might make us all get off the McCown party bus though.

        • ghost of waffle

          cutler was in the top 5-10 of almost every category this year until last week.

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            I don’t have McCown’s numbers and stats off hand, but he moved the ball well too. Limited sample (which might project to equal Cutler’s season so far), but he’s looked good.

            Now, not saying that would hold over a season. Teams could just make McCown try to throw it deep (something teams would never do with Cutler since he’ll take that all day).

            This is going to be an interesting season that’s for sure.

          • Ghost of Waffle

            I want the Bears to keep both QB’s. they make a good tandem. McCown didn’t fuck up but he also put up very pedestrian numbers. Sometimes that’s enough and i’ll take it. Let’s not get carried away. If Cutler ran 6 plays from the 3 and got a field goal you guys would fucking have called for his death.

  • Trac

    Just saw GP chat post. Wow! I wonder if the game will be delayed until tomorrow?

    • gpldan

      Washington is just east of Peoria. It’s no guarantee the storm held the power.

      Bears staff says 2pm re-start

  • gpldan

    Washington IL got smacked. 2 mile long 500 yard wide plow. Maybe 100 homes dropped to ground

    • BerwynBomber

      Saw that. Sad.

    • BearFanInDE

      Wow! That’s effed up

  • BearFanInDE

    Stafford has 327 yards passing in the 1st half..

    • johnnywad

      He still looks like an old bar hag.

      • BearFanInDE

        Lol u r hanging out in the wrong bars

    • Cormonster

      Stafford tried to throw 3 or 4 picks, but the Steelers decided to drop all of them.

      • BearFanInDE

        Gym shorts is sporting a smug look to go w his goatee

      • BearFanInDE

        Cormonster – you got ur wish. Stafford just delivered…

  • BerwynBomber

    Was the infamous fog bowl delayed? I don’t remember. When was the last delay for the Bears at home? Gotta figure the delay would help us.

    • DaMurph

      Nope it wasn’t delayed

  • BearFanInDE

    Wow! Lions tried to fake a field goal and fumbled…ridiculous call

  • BearFanInDE

    Who the hell is David Bass???!!!!

    • johnnywad

      Another Emery rookie that’s contributing. Albeit only because of injury. The kids having a decent game

      • SC Dave

        “Decent” feels a little shy given a pick-6 as a DL

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      He was a player the Raiders tried to stash on their practice squad, and right when they tried, Emery swooped in. He had his eye on him apparently.

      He has major upside.

      There was a Cheta siting too.

      The defense won this game. They stopped them within the 5 to hold them to a FG.

      I was thinking the Ravens would score like the Redskins did, but they held.

  • BerwynBomber

    Looks like Schwartzie cost the Kittens another game. Horrendous red zone calls at the end of the first half and beginning of the fourth Q. He, and to a lesser extent Stafford, can be trusted to keep us in the divisional race.

  • johnnywad

    Boys, John Bostic is going to be a lot of fun to watch fill Lach’s shoes. This kid is loaded with talent and getting better every week. I’m impressed

  • gpldan

    McCown just continues to be good, esp. when it counts.

    • SC Dave

      Agreed. He was clearly a bit ragged overall, but when needed, he did well.

      Thanks, Josh. Well, and you too, Robbie!

  • BerwynBomber

    Special thanks to Harbaugh for atrocious use of clock management, TOs and play-calling during that first and goal sequence at the end of regulation. And what can one say about McCown as a back-up? 2-0 as a starter with two near comebacks in relief. Stellar stuff. Peppers was huge today too. Definitely stepped up with both Briggs and Peanut being out. We are right back in this. Maybe even with a slight advantage with Schwartz patrolling Detroit’s sideline.

  • Trac

    A perfect football suday. The others lost and we picked up a game. Da Bears.

  • AlbertInTucson

    WHEW! THAT, boys & girls, was EXHAUSTING!

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      My feelings exactly. I felt like Loyd Bridges in Airplane.

      Picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.

      • tobijohn

        Exactly…

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    Look up at the wild card race, and…Arizona? WTH? How did that happen?

    • AlbertInTucson

      The Cardinals have a legigt defense. If they can run the ball a little bit and keep Carson Palmer upright, they can compete with almost anybody.

      Calais Campbell, Darnell Docket, Karlos Dansby, Dan Williams. Any or all of them would upgrade the Bear defense. They are also getting contributions from John Abraham. and Tyron “Honey Badger” Mathieu.

  • CanadaBear

    I know I’m a homer but this crew of refs seemed shall we say vigilant when it came to enforcing the rules. Couldn’t believe some of those calls. Oh well. We didn’t play a great game but did enough. Hats off to McCown, Forte and the Black Unicorn. It looks like Pep can still dominate a weak opponent. Glad to get a W considering the conditions.

    • SC Dave

      I confess I did not see the play very well, but the p.i. vs. Conte in the endzone seemed a little strange (unless I missed something earlier in the play). My understanding is that the ball has to be catchable for pass interference to be called, and out of bounds is clearly not catchable.

      The horsecollar against Bowman, while probably within the rules, could have been waived in that it was purely incidental (Zack has Rice’s(?) jersey front to tackle him) and hell, the Raven’s player was holding Zach by his facemask through most of the process. In cases like that, it makes the most sense to call both or none imo.

      But in the end, we somehow won the game. And that’s the big thing.

  • DaMurph

    Man, these are hard games to watch. It’s fucking exhausting! One game where we are in control and somewhat dominant the whole game, is that asking too much? Sure agree with Johnnywad, Bostic is going to be good, and fun to watch over the next 12 years!

  • BerwynBomber

    Much as we’ve had bad luck with the injury bug, does anyone else think the scheduling gods are smiling upon us? Seems like we caught three teams — Cincy, Pitt and NYG — at the exact right time and every game from here till the end looks imminently winnable. The only team we may be catching at a bad time is Philly but Foles has the look of a qb who might not be the most durable.

  • Trac

    My shaky Jake special came through on last thread. The division is up for grabs, fo sho.

  • Ghost of Waffle

    This is one of my biggest pet peeves. The NFL continues to let referees impact the outcomes of games by incorrectly calling penalties at the worst fucking times. There were two brutal “horse collar” tackles today, one by each team. It just so happens that the fake fucking horse collar they called on Bowman almost cost the Bears this game and most likely any chance at the playoffs.
    It is astounding that a 10billion dollar a year league can’t call a fucking horse collar tackle correctly. Bowman had one fucking hand on the front of Rice jersey and the other on the jersey material on top of his shoulder pad. Somebody please fucking tell me how the fuck that is a horse collar?
    that would have made it 4th down at mid field. Instead it gave them 15yds and a first down. The Ravens ended up with a field goal but what the fuck man. That could have been the season, and all because of yet another blown call by the refs that the league would have written us an apology for in a couple of weeks.
    The other was a blown false start penalty on the Ravens that the refs decided not to call but instead to call encroachment on the bears then a ridiculous roughness penalty on Peppers on the same play yet they miss a false start??? Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

    • Cormonster

      On one of Bowman’s PI calls in the end zone early, the left OT was clearly not on the line of scrimmage. His plant foot was over a yard behind the ball. It seemed like the Bears players knew they were playing against the refs today.

  • AlbertInTucson

    It doesnt’t have to be the obvious “hand under the jersey and yank” for it to be a “Horse Collar”, just under the shoulder pads . I rarely defend the zebras but I thought Bowman did get under a shoulder pad and pull him dow. I aso thhink if he had not, the Steelers would have gotten a first down on that play.

    On the OTHER hand, the call for roughing on Pep WAS awful.

    • tobijohn

      There also was one called on Dumervil for pushing McCown that while I was grateful for, looked pretty iffy…

      • Ghost of Waffle

        it wasn’t a hard hit to be sure but Dumervil was staring McCown in the face, head on, watched him ger rid of the ball, then hit him well after the ball was out. It was obvious and it was dumb on his part.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Too many penalties today.

  • AlbertInTucson

    More Troubling: 6 shots on first and goal on that first Bears’ scoring drive that netted only 3.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Not Your Father’s Bear Offense: Alshon Jeffrey is the first Bear receiver to EVER rush for over 100 yards in a season.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Stomach virus, Blogfather? You sure? That loss last week was kind of sickening.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Encouraging To See: Bostic making am Urlacher-esque play downfield against the pass.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Heart In YourThroat Momement: Tim Jennings clutching at his leg after landing awkwardly on it.

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