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Audibles From the Long Snapper: Heading Into the Bye

| October 22nd, 2013

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Enough With the 2014 Draft Stuff…

We say it here all the time but NFL fans are guaranteed sixteen games a season. That’s all. And I will never understand these fans that seemingly can’t wait to give up on a current season and plan for the next. It won’t be happening here.

This is all supposed to be fun, folks. We’re supposed to enjoy the games. And even though a team is injury-riddled and more than likely not a title contender doesn’t means the remaining 9 contests should be ignored. Some of my favorite modern Bears games were played when the team was completely out of it! Adewale Ogunleye’s safety against the Titans in overtime, 2004. Edinger knocks the Lions out of the playoffs in 2000.

The Bears have a tough road coming but they still have a road. And I’m going along for the ride.

Ignore the Trade Market

Phil Emery was asked Monday if he considered making a trade to bolster his injury-riddled roster. From Adam Jahns in the Sun-Times:

The NFL trade deadline is next Tuesday. Emery said Monday at Halas Hall that he has looked into trades over the last couple of weeks but ‘‘we just haven’t found the ­correct combination of value and player exchange.’’

The Bears are going the next 4-6 weeks without their starting quarterback and best defensive player. Giving up a draft pick to band-aid an injury on defense just doesn’t make sense. The 2013 season is not salvageable on the defensive side of the ball. They just don’t have the horses. And the horses aren’t going to suddenly become available.

Male Jets Fans Punches Female Pats Fan

The Bears play at the Jets next season. I will certainly be there. And I get the feeling this guy will be less likely to hit a 6’4″ man.

Greatest Hit Ever Delivered By a Ball Carrier?

(Thanks to the Twitter feed of Dan Patrick Show producer Paul Pabst)

Trestman Involved in Nixing Cutler Negotiations?

Chris Wesserling’s report from NFL.com on Cutler’s pending contract situation was an absolutely mess. He basically wrote an article stating the Bears will look to move on from Cutler…except they won’t. He is so bold in his piece as to write the Bears may draft a quarterback…but they’ll probably keep Cutler next year too. Don’t these people have editors?

There is one line in this article that made my eyes jump out of my head. It’s almost a throwaway line but it’s HUGE story if it’s true.

It’s worth noting that Trestman reportedly played a key role in the decision to cancel contract talkswith Cutler during the offseason.

Reported by who? This has never been reported anywhere but anyone. Then I clicked the link and realized it was a flat-out lie. Trestman has never been implicated as having played a role in canceling Cutler negotiations. It was Trestman’s hiring that led to a delay in the process. Not the man himself.

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  • MB30SD

    shit man. talk about a monday morning hangover.

  • well, at least nick roach is continuing to play solid bal.

  • MB30SD

    I would focus all my attention to 2014 if I were emery/trestman… and it would be 90% on the D side of the ball.

    I don’t know about greatest ever, but dude got knocked the fuck out.

    I call bullshit on all of it. http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/403472-bears-may-move-on-from-cutler?eref=sihp

    • coming into this year, we all thought the offensive line was going to take year to rebuild. i’m sure emery read every comment and is now giggling on his platinum toilet every time he drops a dugan.

      that gives me hope that our D isn’t as far off as it seems. we’ll get some key players back from injury, sign a FA or two, and draft the Jake Long/Jordan Mills equivalents. but just to fuck with ya, MB, emery is gonna keep our safeties.

      • DaMurph

        I’m hoping he doesnt draft in the Chicken Dinner, Evan Rodriguez, Brandon Hardin mold again.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Hey, if I watched during the Gibron years, I’m certainly not going to stop watching now.

    Greatest hit? Excellent, for sure, but some of us watched Sweetness deliver those shots regularly.

    • DaMurph

      We couldnt help but love Abe, quite a character.

      • SC Dave

        Even doing those Ford commercials…

    • SC Dave

      This is SO FAR from the worst Bears team I’ve watched.

    • gpldan

      I watched during the Pardee years, the Wanny Years – total wilderness years when our big weapon was Johnny Bailey. (Look THAT one up!)

      • when i was a kid, i wrote a letter to johnny bailey. he responded by sending me an autographed football card. so then i wrote a letter to tom waddle. he responded by sending me TWO autographed cards.

        life was good, my friends.

        • gpldan

          Johnny Bailey was Barry Sanders-lite. Ok, maybe Barry-extra-lite.

          Maybe Barry 64 calories.

      • Trac

        I remember when they hired Pardee. He was the precursor to Ditka.

        • Cormonster

          Wrong my friend. Neil Armstrong was the coach before Ditka after landing on the moon and beating Bart Starr’s Packers 61-7. Pardee wasn’t all bad. The Bears made the playoffs in 1977 with slo-mo Bob Avellini as QB.

          • Trac

            Hee hee.

    • CanadaBear

      I love seeing the clip of Abe yelling at Bobby Douglass. “Douglass, DOUGLASS”. I laugh like hell every time.

      • Bobby Douglass

        I resemble that remark.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Male Jets fan….”

    One of the commentators says

    “I can’t imagine what led to that.” ?

    Well,DUH, sweetheart!

    Do you think that just perhaps one or both of the folks involved had 4+ hours of boozing it up before, during and after the game that MIGHT have been a contributing factor?

    As for the trade market, I’ll repeat myself from a previous thread;

    Do you think the Colts are having 2nd thoughts about sending a #1 to the Browns for Trent Richardson?

    • gpldan

      Why? Richardson looked good against the Broncos.

      • AlbertInTucson

        He’s been a disappointment to them prior to that. He’ll have to up his game to justify a #1.

  • DaMurph

    I forgot where I read someone predicting the Bears going after Josh Freeman after this season, WTF was that guy thinkin about? Freeman is TUUURRRIBBLLEEEEE!

  • MB30SD

    Just watched highlights of the game. Dude, not to flog the horse too hard, but my god both of our safetis are so turrible. They are the worst. Jesus.

    • Shady

      We’ve said it for years, these safeties are not good, they were part of a defensive scheme that asked them to do very little. Now the complete lack of a pass rush from the overpaid DEs and DTs off the street are exposing it for the rest of the football world to see. Add a couple more rookie LBs to that mix and now you’ve got something historically bad. Can’t wait to see just how bad it gets.

      • MB30SD

        yes.

        Ok, now I’m not being gracious. I’ll stop rubbing it in, I just want them gone and for emery to get us a FS that I can make my new avatar.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          They should start by putting Tillman on the hot 200 yards TE when we face one… you know, every week.

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

        If we’re going to go down, then I say go down blitzing. Just fuck it. Lots of stunts, overloads, double A gaps, corner (what happened to that blitz?), safety, some 46, 3-4, amoeba, whatever.

        The other team might scorch us, but they’re gonna score anyways, so might as well put the hurt on their QB.

    • Marcos Jaime

      Amen MB. Ive been saying it in every comment. Our fuckin safeties blow!

  • MB30SD
    • Sactowns#1

      Another “Alshon Jeffreys” sighting. lol

      • Shady

        How is this possible? His last name is being changed to Jeffreys whether he likes it or not. On a related note, the kid is having a breakout season as many of us predicted.

        • Sactowns#1

          How hard is it to look at the back of someones jersey when reporting on a play? It’s dumbfounding.

        • AlbertInTucson

          These are the same people that still say “SOLDIERS Field”.

    • AlbertInTucson

      As predicted. Frankly, with his track record, I think he got off light.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    I’m not giving up on the Bears just yet. I know it’s a long shot, but if the Bears beat the Packers, all bets are off. We’d be in 1st place and would prove we can beat any future opponents with our horrible D and McCown, including the Lions.

    You also have to factor in the rest of the NFC wild card race.

    I doubt one emerges from the NFC E.

    The NFC S? Saints win division, then it’s a bunch of ham-and-eggers: Panthers (3-3), Falcons (2-4), Bucs (0-6).

    NFC W – Seahawks and 9ers (5-2) will likely be in.

    NFC N – Pack (4-2) and Lions (4-3) are our main competition, both for the division and wild card, and we play them.

    So I’m not jumping off the ledge quite yet. I know it’s not Christmas time yet, but I believe in miracles! Just gotta beat the Fudge. If the Texans almost beat the undefeated Chiefs at their house with a 3rd string QB, anything is possible. Crazy shit always happens in rivalries.

  • Shady

    Urlacher confirms what most of us have been saying: Chicken Dinner a better fit at LB.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      He also dislikes Emery, so I’m sure sticking it to him is gravy.

  • TheBigCheesy

    Jeff

    I’ve definitely seen some lazy articles written about Cutler’s impending contract negotiations, but I can’t blame journalists bringing up the subject itself; it’s a fascinating situation in my opinion.

    I’m assuming that everything will be largely self-evident after we see:

    1. How long Cutler is out
    2. How well a replacement level player operates Trestman’s offense
    3. How well Cutler plays when he returns
    4. How well the 2014 QB draft class shapes up.

    Until you have the answers to these questions, I think all prognostications are wild guesses. However, I was wondering what your thoughts are about it. Before the injury, Cutler was playing well enough to assume that the bears would extend him after the season, and for lot of money….and maybe they still will. But do you think there is any possibility that McCown could play well enough to convince the organization that Trestman (and his system) could successfully develop, and be productive with, one of the younger, unproven quarterbacks entering the draft? If they feel their offense could compete at a high level without Cutler, wouldn’t it be worth spending the $16 – $20 million dollars elsewhere? The majority of Chicago’s core players are on contract years, and they have a ton of decisions to make. Obviously, finding the right Quarterback is paramount, but I think Cutler’s future is very much in the balance.

    Is there any possibility that this season plays out in such a way that Cutler becomes more affordable for the Bears (under $15 million/5 years). If he hits the FA market, what do you think he’d get paid?

    Also, what about the Franchise Tag? It seems like the perfect situation for it, but do you fear the negative implications of pissing him off? And if the Bears do let Cutler walk, are you afraid of Marshall becoming disgruntled?

    • MB30SD

      Jeff… before you even think about answering this guy (I know you’re not), here is one of his last posts on YOUR blog:

      “TheBigCheesy – a day ago

      Yes!

      Bears Still Suck!”

      Dude, make up your mind. Do you want to be a productive member of this blog, or do you want to stay a douchey fucking turd of a troll. So far….

      • bearsfantillend

        my money is on douchey fucking turd of a troll

        • MB30SD

          I changed “be” to “stay”

      • TheBigCheesy

        That post was in response to someone proclaiming it was “Packer Week.” I post that every Packer Week. “The Bears Still Suck” is a pretty harmless, playful jab.

        I don’t understand why someone can’t engage in discussion one day and then banter in jest the next. Those two behaviors aren’t mutually exclusive. We’re not talking about the Affordable Care Act or the Syrian conflict here; it’s the NFL. I’m not personally attacking anyone.

        • bearsfantillend

          My friend Smokey and Yogi felt personally attacked. Bears are real people too, you should be more considerate and sympathetic to the feelings of bears.

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      The problem with the “draft new qb, start over camp” is that drafting a stud qb, especially with a mid-level pick, is a tricky proposition. If a team gets it wrong, then they become the Vikings, Browns, Bucs…an organization would really have to get a little lucky like the Pack with Rodgers – Hawks, Wilson – 9ers, Kaep… Do we trust Emery enough for that sort of gamble? Is the next QB draft class all that deep? These are questions which I’m still debating.

      Franchising Cutler seems like the ideal solution, on paper. Unfortunately, the press pecks on franchised QBs like a vulture on a dying carcass, esp in Chicago.

      This will no doubt shape up to be THE storyline in 2014, for sure, maybe in the entire NFL because so many have strong opinions on Cutler.

      One things for sure though, we can’t just let Cutler walk. Franchise him, then sell him to the highest bidder (and that might have to be paired with Marshall). The Browns would be my first guess. They’re trying to get rid of Gordon now; they have Norv Turner who LOVES big arms.

      Browns have picks to spare. I can easily forsee a block buster trade, two 1sts, a 2nd plus Gordon for Cutler-Marshall.

      Emery will wet himself with all the picks. What he can do with them is up for debate though.

      Just some possible scenarios.

      • gpldan

        One things for sure though, we can’t just let Cutler walk.

        Actually, we could.

        • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

          We could, but wouldn’t it be better to try to get SOMETHING for him? Damn, give us a DT, a safety, anything!

          • TheBigCheesy

            I think the only conceivable way the Bears can trade Cutler is if they do it before this season’s trade deadline (which is pretty inconceivable itself). I suppose they technically could Franchise him and then trade him, but something like that would be unprecedented (I think). If they do let Cutler walk, the Bears will receive a 3rd round compensatory pick in 2015 draft.

            Also, I don’t think the Browns (or any team for that matter) would give up that much for a player on a franchise tag that they would need to extend after the year.

          • Sactowns#1

            Hmmm …aged QB who is injured every season, yeah theres a huge market for those guys out there. The guy has a cannon, he’s smart and he seems like a good leader and teammate but those things dont sell on the open market.
            “Nice guy? I don’t give a shit. Good father? Fuck you! Go home and play with your kids. You wanna work here – close!”

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            If he truly is inj prone, why would WE want him!?

            Not sure if that label would be accurate. He’s been concussed, but behind Martz and Williams/Webb, it’s a testament to his durability that he didn’t get decapitated.

            The thumb inj was a fluke play.

            The Championship game, who knows?

            This last inj seemed fluky to me too.

            Yet another unknown with Cutler.

          • Scharfinator

            COFFEE IS FOR CLOSERS

          • TheBigCheesy

            Nice

          • gpldan

            It’s the end of his deal. You pretty much have to brea NFL rules about dealing in secret, try and sign and deal, which – since he is URFA – would not make any sense.

        • Trac

          This is very interesting. Trestman took a Kid named Rich Gannon who the Patriots drafted to be a Safety and turned him into a 4 Time Pro Bowler while with the Raiders after Gannon served as a backup with several teams. Yeah GP, Trestman very well may let him walk. I don’t think Jay stays because he’s too valuable to let him walk. I think Jay stays if Trestman want’s him to stay. If Cutty doesn’t come at a fair price, he gone!

          http://articles.latimes.com/keyword/rich-gannon

      • MB30SD

        don’t feed the troll maings

    • Marcos Jaime

      Do you have a fuckin life? you seriously keep coming back here to talk about the BEARS? Go buy a fuckin Cutler jersey already and call it a day. Your a bears fan dude

      • haha. this is actually a pretty coherent post from him.

        i still stand by the theory that cheese is actually waffle in fudge clothing.

    • BerwynBomber

      They will franchise Cutler or they will let him walk. I can’t see a long-term deal, unless he offers a significant hometown discount. What I would bank on: the Bears will draft a QB in the upcoming draft. This is supposed to be the richest QB draft in decades. It is hard to imagine that Emery and Trestman don’t pluck one of their own for grooming.

  • ErikGrogan

    Call me crazy and maybe young, but McCown reminds me of this guy.. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070530195960/rocky/images/5/51/Troyb2.jpg

    • MB30SD

      Erik, you are crazy!!! and Young!!!

      And shady threw that out yesterday. Maybe show up and read a bit once in a while.

    • gpldan

      I must break you.

      • gpldan

        (Followed by a glove bump so hard it rocks you backward.)

        • Shady

          MB posted it yesterday. C’mon guys, try to stay with us here.

    • Shady

      Did you not notice the new avitar?

    • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

      Hopefully we treat the Pack like Apollo Creed more than Rocky.

      • gpldan

        Living in America! Huh! Hoo! yeah! I feel good!

      • Sactowns#1

        Come to think of it McCown does look like a less muscled Dolph.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    “The 2013 season is not salvageable on the defensive side of the ball”. I agree and think it’s bullshit. I agree because we don’t have the people to make it happen. I think it’s bullshit because you have to try. Bring in some 350 pounds DT undrafted rookies run stoppers and play nickel. Play the run all the way with the DLine and be creative on the back end. Put 3 NT on the field in the same time. We can’t rush the QB anyway so at least stop the fucking run.

    PS: 0-4 New York Giants made shit happen by bringing in Beason. They play the run very, very well with 5 crappy DBs allways on the field. Their defense is on the way up… they have the fucking knowledge to do that… unlike the Chicago Bears… fuck this shit.

    • bye barb! see you next season!

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Strange post mate.

        • your post very clearly shows that you’ve given up on this season. based on that, i don’t think it’s a strange response at all. 😉

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            No it’s not. It’s just the opposite. I think the BEARS have given up on the defense and I think that’s ‘bullshit’. You can see that I’m lobbying for a different defensive identity and scheme…’have to try’ for a different style that bodes well with the cards we where dealt. Do 2 things well and see what changes… play the run, stop the killer TE with Tillman or double teams. That’s not giving up, it’s calling for changes and taking chances. Damn man.

  • Shady

    What the hell happened to the comments section?

  • Marcos Jaime

    We still got some season to play guys. Lets not talk about letting Cutler walk and hanging the season up just yet. CMON GUYS BEAR THE FUCK DOWN!

  • gpldan
    • AlbertInTucson

      Thank you, GP.

  • gpldan

    From DUI to Bond Fraud, it’s your one stop shop!

    Hilarious.

    http://www.bettercallsaul.com/

  • gpldan

    I had no idea MB’s real name was Karl Buckins.

    • Trac

      SMH and laughing at the same time. Truly an amazing ad. Somehow I get the feeling that was a real commercial. lol.

    • MB30SD

      I wish I had that much hair.

  • DaMurph

    Where the heck is Irish?

    • Trac

      I was just thinking about the same thing. Kinda worried something happened to him.

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    From Rotoworld…

    “NFL.com’s Mike Silver believes there’s a “very real possibility” the Bears let Jay Cutler walk in free agency.

    Silver believes Bears coach Marc Trestman “might not place
    as much of a premium on arm strength as some of his peers,” and that
    Cutler has hurt his cause by remaining turnover prone. A source
    “familiar with the Bears’ situation” agrees. “If you’re (Trestman), do
    you want to spend $20 million a year on Cutler, who might not be the
    best fit, or do you want to find someone you can mold who’s efficient,”
    the source asked rhetorically. “And if you think about how deep this
    (next) draft class might be, he can identify his guy and get him
    relatively cheap for the next few years.” The Bears would be gambling by
    throwing in the towel on Cutler, but he turns 30 in April, and has
    grown increasingly injury prone. It will likely at least be considered
    in the Windy City.”

    • Trac

      My thoughts exactly. I posted some similar comments below. I bet Jay walks.

      • gpldan

        Welcome your 2014 Texans Quarterback, Houston! Jaaaaaay Cutler!

        • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

          3 words. Franchise. Trade. Watt.

          • SC Dave

            No way they give us Watt for Cutler.

          • MB30SD

            how about conte? Wright? Both?

            Ok ok… I keeed I keeeeeed.

    • CanadaBear

      You do realize you’re stabbing Johnny in the heart?

      • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)
        • MB30SD

          god I hate that scene. So terrible. can’t watch it.

          • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

            Here ya go. Maybe this will make you feel better.

            http://youtu.be/aZzZu8nLUNI

            You know, Tarentino in some interview made an interesting observation about the “Bear Jew.” He said that a lot of Jews he knew really loved him, but at the same time, the character made them somewhat angry. Tarentino was a bit baffled, but the reaction was sort of, “Man, why couldn’t the German Jews have resisted like the Bear Jew would have?” So in a lot of ways, the Bear Jew acted as a cathartic Golem. Always found that little tid-bit fascinating.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I haven’t been able to watch that movie since, to be perfectly honest.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            And solely due to that scene. Disturbed the living shit out of me the first time.

  • Trac

    Here’s the Millions of dollars question. Will the Bears have to do what the Cowboys and Falcons did when they signed homo and ice boy? I personally don’t want to spend our cap money on one player and McCown proved you don’t have to be Jay Cutler for Trestman’s offense to gel. The only way I think it’s a win win for the Bears and Cutty is if he doesn’t break the bank.

    • cutler has said he’s willing to take a hometown discount to stay with us. he understands what can happen when one player is eating up 20% of the team’s salary cap. it’s just not a winning formula.

      so that being said, i bet three high-fives that we re-sign cutler to a 2-year-deal, draft a QB this off-season, and see what happens.

      now, this doesn’t mean i’m giving up on 2013. why? because you can’t get to 13-3 without passing 4-3 on the way. =]

      • AlbertInTucson

        Sounds nice on Cutty’s part. For sure I’D take less to play for my boyhood team, under a coach who actually appears to be looking out for me.

        But beware, agents and the Players’ Association do not, repeat: NOT, like that concept and bring pressure on the player to demand top dollar.

        • Trac

          I only buy the home town discount wrap when a player has already made his bones. Home town discounts mentioned by players in Jays situation are normally nothing but dudes hedging their bets.

          • CanadaBear

            Cutler’s already rich to the point of his kid’s kid won’t have to work. He’s got more than enough money. Not to mention he’s a smart fucker so I’m sure he isn’t blowing through it. He really doesn’t strike me as the kind of guy that would let an agent or the NFLPA dictate to him. Who knows?

          • Trac

            He’s made great money but he hasn’t had the “Pay Day” yet. Maybe you are right but as you say, we’ll find out soon enough.

          • lordy me. i can’t wait until i’m at a point in life where i get a $30 million contract and I just bide my time because that’s not my life’s biggest windfall.

    • Willie

      McCown had a decent day against a shitty Redskins team that didn’t prepare for him whatsoever.

      Let’s wait a few weeks before we start blowing this guy.

      Anyone remember our irrational Caleb Hanie optimism? Yeah, that was fun.

      (However, I agree that we shouldn’t blow the wad on JC… This injury might be a good thing in that it lowers his asking price)

      • AlbertInTucson

        Yeah, I got fooled by Mr. Haney, too. When he scared the Packers in the championship game I, like many, thought “Great. A capable backup.” Turned out not to be such Green Acres.

    • AlbertInTucson

      According to my friend “Jeremiah Was A Bullfrog” (a non-posting reader of the blog) Jerrah’s Cowboys are headed towards Salary Cap Hell because “Legend-In-His-Own-Mind” Jones was betting on the cap being raised in 2014 and now it does not look like that’s going to happen.

      • Cormonster

        Al, you’ve been on fire since last night. Cracking me up. Well done.

  • MB30SD
    • AlbertInTucson

      THAT, is just absolutely, positively, outstanding!

      • MB30SD

        thought you’d like that. Do I see a #83 jersey in your future. Ha!

        • AlbertInTucson

          I’m not a numbered jersey guy. The only one I own was a gift.
          I’ll let you guess what # it is.

          • bearsfantillend

            i am guessing #8. Cade McNown BABY!!!!

          • Trac

            Emery Moorehead?

          • MB30SD

            The Sex Cannon!!!!

          • EnderWiggin

            51?

          • AlbertInTucson

            Aye, laddie. ’tis 51.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I do own plenty of Bear wear tho’, including some caps that are older than some of you posting here.

  • CanadaBear

    I’ve been reading the staff is undecided about starting Greene or Costanzo at WIL. Can they be serious? We all know what Costanzo brings, a day late and a dollar short. Like him on ST’s but not at LB. At this point there’s no way we’re going to the dance so let’s see what the young guys have. I’d be totally OK with putting CD at WIL. Put some big body in the middle of the line and kick Woot back out to end where he belongs.

  • MB30SD

    Shady… when Nov 15th comes and I get my PS4… what game are we getting into?

    Man, this stuff is gnarley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaufhZv84Gk

  • 4ever85 (AKA Butch Deadlift)

    I think we all need a little chuckle this week.

    http://youtu.be/iUodp6VexBc

    • Cormonster

      Are you going to that Doors tribute show? I think it would be a prudent move, especially if you never seen Warren Haynes live.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    This pertains to nothing, but one of the reasons I hang around and listen to you guys is that the typical “group think” phenomenon that occurs on most other comment boards does not happen here.
    I’m not sure why that is, but it’s pretty unique.
    And yeah, yeah, I’ll post more now that the season is in the tank…new job, crazy life, blah blah.

    • Cormonster

      The beauty of this site is that Jeff allows free speech without an “administrator” getting in the way. That aspect attracts smart, free thinking people of all kinds. The posters regulate themselves.

  • BearFanInDE

    Its also been reported that Rex Grossman and Brian Urlacher are coming back.

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